Absolutely. It's clear that the ex-husband doesn't care for Jamie, if he felt that he was "trapped" because of him and OP. Also note that he only brought up his son to guilt-trip OP into staying. It's the fun car and work car logic. OP is the reliable Prius and Alicia is the BMW. I'm sure that the high of being with Alicia will end within a month's time, same as any fun hot rod's longevity. Then you have to fall back on the reliable work car. But like most people do he took that Prius for granted, and now its being taken away.
“Over something that could be fixed” WHEN YOURE IN-LAW MADE YOUR CHILD CONSIDER SOMEONE ELSE THEIR MOTHER?!?! Nah, thats not a mistake when you’re in-laws are confusing your child
Absolutely agree in-laws crossing such a boundary goes beyond a simple mistake. It's completely unfair to confuse a child like that and undermine a mother's role. You have every right to set strong boundaries. Sending you strength and support
Even if she was not an ex, she is such an awful human being. And demonstrated it in front of him repeatedly. So, it would still be a sign you really need to start breaking up.
"In contact" is a severe understatement for this situation. The fact that she even got to the engagement stage is an indication of how little self respect she has. Living doormats are just annoying protagonists.
She need to sue him, his parents and Alica for parental alienation. Plus put it in the custody agreement that they are never aloud to bad mouth OP around their child, aswell as Alica never being aloud contact with their child in and way, shape or form ever agin.
LOOOOOL stories like this are always funny. “my husband is the love of my life and he’s amazing…oh but he won’t stand up for me, prioritizes his pick me friend over me, lets his family mistreat me and doesn’t see an issue with his mother convincing my son to call another woman mom…” Like Op seriously the fact that you even needed to ask if you’re in the wrong is sad….
Like seriously! This is story that didn't need to exist if OOP just nipped the problem in the bud at the very beginning of the relationship. The husband would either learn to cut contact with his ex or OOP would find out that man wasn't remotely husband-material much earlier on.
You are right but this happens in a lot of situations with heavy stress you start to wonder if what you did was right sometimes you do need just a clear check in
I am betting a thousand bucks now that OP and Sebastian are divorced, Alicia will no longer find him attractive and will distant herself from all this drama😂 What a waste for him and mom Regina!
"They were better as friends" or she wanted him as her backup and upset he's now taken, and MIL equally disagrees with his choice?? ONTOP of his lack of spine and commitment as father and husband.
She needs to run far and fast. This is terrible. Her son needs therapy asap, and she needs to keep him away from those people unless they are 100% supervised.
Your partner dismissing and invalidating your feelings without even trying to listen to you is your sign to leave btw. These types rarely get better and usually it's only once shit really hits the fan and you end up way worse than when you went into the relationship.
I want to wish everyone who is reading this the best of luck, even though it is possible that we will never meet. I pray that your life is brimming with happiness, good fortune, and an infinite supply of blessings.
This situation reminds me a lot of my ex fiance. Thankfully we didn't have children. He had a child with his ex wife but there were moments his parents would compare me to his ex, call me his ex wife's name, etc. What op needs to do is file for full custody, supervised visitation, and she needs to make sure that they can't bad mouth op to her child and keep him away from MIL. Husband is most likely doing the same thing as his mom if he isn't reacting the same as op. It sounds like they are all trying to replace op with ap and trying to push her out. What would they do once he was older and found out the truth, especially of how he was treating his mom at such a young age? He would feel very guilty about it and hate both his grandma and dad along with Alicia.
Her husband is such an idiot, he loved the attention from the ex. And he also doesn't respect his wife even a bit for not stopping right away the stories of his ex. And not stopping to have contact with her...
It's interesting, the number of people that came up to tell her that she should reconsider and how she's breaking up her family. Probably the majority if not all of them would do the same thing she did given the same circumstances
It really is hard for me personally to feel bad for OOP here. It literally only takes one instance of disrespect before either I or my wife would raise the issue with each other. How on earth do you let your partner's disrespecting ex remain involved in your life for YEARS?!
P.S...just because you think you might'nt tolerate(suffer) someone else lies/behaviours in a particular situation... doesn't give you the right to judge someone else's choices when they're living with that sh*t...
Ok but in general why wouldn't he just be with Alicia instead of wasting time being with OP and hurting her. There was no need to put OP through all this. He sucks
The fact he missed he is own sons birth wouldve been game over in my book. That right there just spoke volumes, he valued his best friend over his own son!!!!!!!! That is something you can never get back. Especially to not respond to calls or texts from his wife....like WTF people.
Bro she taught your son to ride a bike, nah, she needs to learn boundaries, they both do, or they just need to get together and quit playing with other peoples emotions and lives
Why on earth did this woman have a baby with that man?? He and his mother had made their feelings about Alicia perfectly clear beforehand. When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM.
You always in situations like this make your lawyer aware and discuss things. Because alienation of affection is very real and is pretty common. Sounds like they were conditioning the kid. Take the diary go to the lawyer and get a therapist involved immediately. Cut them off from having contact with the kid until a service worker can assess the kid. Even then you have to do everything in your power to make sure that you get supervised visitation and that this behavior is documented. Many people don't see or understand what is going on until years down the line and it's too late.
I was in a similar situation but it didnt go this far. My boyfriends family kept inviting his ex to family events(she was best friends with his sister in high school) it made me feel so uncomfortable. I told him and at first he told me I was overreacting and that there was nothing for me to worry about because they broke up because she was a huge B but after a few more events I told him that I wasn't comfortable hanging out with her and that if he was going to continue to hang out with her knowing I was uncomfortable then we shouldn't be together. At this time we had been together probably a year or two. He eventually told his family that he was uncomfortable with her coming to things and they stopped inviting her HOWEVER a a summer or two later they invited her to the annual camping trip that we all go on. We had already told them that we would be there before we found out they invited her, he still said he wanted to go because he's always gone and I told him that if he went that I would be spending that time packing up my things and moving out. Ultimately he didn't go and I think at that point his family realized that if she was invited we wouldn't be there and they've never invited her to anything since. I should probably add that his mom and sister tried for years to get us to break up for some reason and honestly they didn't stop meddling in our relationship until we had been together for probably about 7 years.
It's AI. The hint for this one is when she comfronts Sebastián twice, once before confronting MIL and one after. In the story both events are different yet supposed to be the same.
Lol. "how could he share intimate details of our relationship" with one person while she is doing it with millions. I mean overall she's not in the wrong and she needed to gtfo from that relationship a long time ago. But that particular point made me laugh.
ETA (Everyone The A-hole) It feels like OP sugarcoated a lot of her actions. I'm not saying the others were justified, but it seems OP didn't exactly make it difficult for them.
They say that opposite gender can be friends. Then you see shit like this. If you are going to marry someone and they are super duper close to an opposite gender bestie and will defend them no matter what. They have feelings for each other. Period. You should be able to tell your “bestie” to chill and not do this and that. They you s.i. Doesn’t. You got your answer
I agree Me and my wife kind of share the same ideals. I don't have a female friends and my wife does not have any male friends. And it seems to work for us. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Cause you get marri, did you shouldn't have opposite gender friends
You have to remember Reddit is not the majority of cases, just the extreme cases which are the least common. Most of the time it's fine, but those calm stories don't make it to reddit for obvious reasons.
Making this comment because of yesterday's post; Was anyone else in the middle of listening to it when UA-cam took it down for "violating the guidelines"? Still salty about that, was just before the climax when I got an error message and than the "this video was removed"
I'm a man and I think she should have left him earlier. Dude is spineless and a back stabber. His mom disrespected his wife to her face and he down played it, then his friend disrespected his wife and he downplayed it. He should have just took his L and kept it pushing 🫸 🫷
Op needs full custody or she will lose her son through parentel alienation from ex and ap and mil
My thoughts exactly. I'd already start suing for parental alienation. The proof is all there in writing.
Absolutely. It's clear that the ex-husband doesn't care for Jamie, if he felt that he was "trapped" because of him and OP. Also note that he only brought up his son to guilt-trip OP into staying.
It's the fun car and work car logic. OP is the reliable Prius and Alicia is the BMW. I'm sure that the high of being with Alicia will end within a month's time, same as any fun hot rod's longevity. Then you have to fall back on the reliable work car. But like most people do he took that Prius for granted, and now its being taken away.
I was thinking the same
I think she can even sue separately for the parental alienation itself, as grandma and affair partner also have a role in it
“Over something that could be fixed” WHEN YOURE IN-LAW MADE YOUR CHILD CONSIDER SOMEONE ELSE THEIR MOTHER?!?! Nah, thats not a mistake when you’re in-laws are confusing your child
Absolutely agree in-laws crossing such a boundary goes beyond a simple mistake. It's completely unfair to confuse a child like that and undermine a mother's role. You have every right to set strong boundaries. Sending you strength and support
Besides that's majorly fucked up.
Your yelling satisfied that itch in my soul. Thank you
Why do some in-laws think they can treat their kid’s spouse like crap and still have unfettered access to their grandchildren?
Moral of the story: Don't date someone who is still in contact with their exes (specialy when that ex is being mean to you)
Even if she was not an ex, she is such an awful human being. And demonstrated it in front of him repeatedly.
So, it would still be a sign you really need to start breaking up.
I wouldn't say ex specifically as plenty of people manage to have healthy friendships after a split. Just people who disrespect you in general
"In contact" is a severe understatement for this situation.
The fact that she even got to the engagement stage is an indication of how little self respect she has.
Living doormats are just annoying protagonists.
@@mnomadvfxshe set firm boundaries and he completely ignored them, so she left. How is that doormat behaviour?
She need to sue him, his parents and Alica for parental alienation. Plus put it in the custody agreement that they are never aloud to bad mouth OP around their child, aswell as Alica never being aloud contact with their child in and way, shape or form ever agin.
If she can't get full custody then she should push for supervised visitation rights for the father, based on the alienation.
The instant the husband chose to not be with his wife during his son’s birth, he fucked up and it should have ended there.
LOOOOOL stories like this are always funny.
“my husband is the love of my life and he’s amazing…oh but he won’t stand up for me, prioritizes his pick me friend over me, lets his family mistreat me and doesn’t see an issue with his mother convincing my son to call another woman mom…”
Like Op seriously the fact that you even needed to ask if you’re in the wrong is sad….
Like seriously! This is story that didn't need to exist if OOP just nipped the problem in the bud at the very beginning of the relationship. The husband would either learn to cut contact with his ex or OOP would find out that man wasn't remotely husband-material much earlier on.
You are right but this happens in a lot of situations with heavy stress you start to wonder if what you did was right sometimes you do need just a clear check in
Right?! I couldn't get past 5 minutes without being pissed at op for allowing that treatment from everyone, especially her husband.
These are bait stories to get attention. They know full well they're not the A-hole.
I am betting a thousand bucks now that OP and Sebastian are divorced, Alicia will no longer find him attractive and will distant herself from all this drama😂
What a waste for him and mom Regina!
OP has to get full custody or at least supervised visits, if the boy stays with anyone related to his father, OP will become the absolute villain
"They were better as friends" or she wanted him as her backup and upset he's now taken, and MIL equally disagrees with his choice?? ONTOP of his lack of spine and commitment as father and husband.
The emotional affair and gaslighting is equally as toxic as a physical affair. OP did the right thing
He already broke his second chance. Lol
It is a pretty big red flag 🚩 the husband was best friends with such an awful person.
While getting constant evidence that she was a bad person.
She needs to run far and fast. This is terrible. Her son needs therapy asap, and she needs to keep him away from those people unless they are 100% supervised.
Pretty clear that the OP saw it was a problem before they got married and continued on anyway.
"I can fix him/her" seldom turns out well.
Trust your feelings and prioritize your well-being.
Your partner dismissing and invalidating your feelings without even trying to listen to you is your sign to leave btw. These types rarely get better and usually it's only once shit really hits the fan and you end up way worse than when you went into the relationship.
I want to wish everyone who is reading this the best of luck, even though it is possible that we will never meet. I pray that your life is brimming with happiness, good fortune, and an infinite supply of blessings.
Thank you, you as well. Hugs 🤗
Thanks big man ❤ you too!
I don't know why but I'm 100% sure that he's cheating on her with his bf especially after making his son call her "second mommy"
Ive learned from these stories that "youre being insecure" is just code for "im cheating on you and suck at hiding it"
This situation reminds me a lot of my ex fiance. Thankfully we didn't have children. He had a child with his ex wife but there were moments his parents would compare me to his ex, call me his ex wife's name, etc. What op needs to do is file for full custody, supervised visitation, and she needs to make sure that they can't bad mouth op to her child and keep him away from MIL. Husband is most likely doing the same thing as his mom if he isn't reacting the same as op. It sounds like they are all trying to replace op with ap and trying to push her out. What would they do once he was older and found out the truth, especially of how he was treating his mom at such a young age? He would feel very guilty about it and hate both his grandma and dad along with Alicia.
Her husband is such an idiot, he loved the attention from the ex. And he also doesn't respect his wife even a bit for not stopping right away the stories of his ex. And not stopping to have contact with her...
I wouldn’t have married the husband to begin with….. I wouldn’t even date him. You should have to complete with your partners friends or ex’s
Never ever ever ignored your ‘gut feeling’
It's interesting, the number of people that came up to tell her that she should reconsider and how she's breaking up her family. Probably the majority if not all of them would do the same thing she did given the same circumstances
I hate this manipulation tactic so much. She wasn’t breaking up the family, he broke the family years ago!
It really is hard for me personally to feel bad for OOP here. It literally only takes one instance of disrespect before either I or my wife would raise the issue with each other. How on earth do you let your partner's disrespecting ex remain involved in your life for YEARS?!
Some marriages are shallower than some one night stands.
P.S...just because you think you might'nt tolerate(suffer) someone else lies/behaviours in a particular situation... doesn't give you the right to judge someone else's choices when they're living with that sh*t...
@@MsHolley350 It's a publically posted story. We all literally have the right to form opinions, i.e. to judge.
Op not only needs full custody of her kid and to sue MIL for Parental Alienation.
Good Friend, Bad Husband.
Ok but in general why wouldn't he just be with Alicia instead of wasting time being with OP and hurting her. There was no need to put OP through all this. He sucks
Affair with the sexy body you want, marry the proper person you need. Idiots always try to have their cake and eat it too.
Just coming to say, this further proves no one good is named Regina
I honesty feel so bad for the kid. Separating when the other adults twisted up his mind is gonna be such a challenge fr him later
The fact he missed he is own sons birth wouldve been game over in my book. That right there just spoke volumes, he valued his best friend over his own son!!!!!!!! That is something you can never get back. Especially to not respond to calls or texts from his wife....like WTF people.
Bro she taught your son to ride a bike, nah, she needs to learn boundaries, they both do, or they just need to get together and quit playing with other peoples emotions and lives
Reminder: emotional infidelity is still infidelity
Why on earth did this woman have a baby with that man?? He and his mother had made their feelings about Alicia perfectly clear beforehand. When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM.
lets all learn a new word...DIVORCE
... only ai would be able to write such annoying story
What is Alecia doing at her exes family’s events?! Do they share a child?! Hell no
If your partner is punking you, run. its not normal
If she didn't think it was wrong why did she hide it
I don't need to sleep
I need the absolute outcome of this story
Honestly op only has herself to blame for tolerating the nonsense in the first place
You always in situations like this make your lawyer aware and discuss things. Because alienation of affection is very real and is pretty common. Sounds like they were conditioning the kid. Take the diary go to the lawyer and get a therapist involved immediately. Cut them off from having contact with the kid until a service worker can assess the kid. Even then you have to do everything in your power to make sure that you get supervised visitation and that this behavior is documented. Many people don't see or understand what is going on until years down the line and it's too late.
Heard this story before but it was about the crazy sister.
leave them
Full Custody and monitored visitation or else Alicia will be his second mom
How old is this child??? How is he writing a diary but not in school yet???
All these “crazy MIL” stories seem to be a natural progression of the age-old jokes.
I hope op gets full custody of her son cause ex and his mistress will just try to turn the op son's against her , good job op leave this loser
O wow wtf r u doing
13:24 trying to be a good friend over being a great husband and father is insane. Your friend nor mother come before your wife
You should screenshot the texts he sent begging for you back and send them to Alicia
Why do cheaters always think they can have their cake and eat it too
Cheaters are selfish
oh the thrill of the double life
Who will you be tonight that the question who will (husband) be tonight that's the question
What toddler has a diary?😂
What toddler is 7 years old? I had a diary at 7! It was…Godawful, lmao 😂🤣
I just don't get it, why string op along and even get her pregnant if you wanted ur ex? Why waste another person's life for no reason???
I was in a similar situation but it didnt go this far. My boyfriends family kept inviting his ex to family events(she was best friends with his sister in high school) it made me feel so uncomfortable. I told him and at first he told me I was overreacting and that there was nothing for me to worry about because they broke up because she was a huge B but after a few more events I told him that I wasn't comfortable hanging out with her and that if he was going to continue to hang out with her knowing I was uncomfortable then we shouldn't be together. At this time we had been together probably a year or two. He eventually told his family that he was uncomfortable with her coming to things and they stopped inviting her HOWEVER a a summer or two later they invited her to the annual camping trip that we all go on. We had already told them that we would be there before we found out they invited her, he still said he wanted to go because he's always gone and I told him that if he went that I would be spending that time packing up my things and moving out. Ultimately he didn't go and I think at that point his family realized that if she was invited we wouldn't be there and they've never invited her to anything since. I should probably add that his mom and sister tried for years to get us to break up for some reason and honestly they didn't stop meddling in our relationship until we had been together for probably about 7 years.
So... you mean to tell me that the OP gives backstory on the person who caused the problem before the big reveal???
I tried googling the story but I couldn’t find it. Someone pls lmk if they find the title of the Reddit post, I’m dying to check back for updates
It's AI. The hint for this one is when she comfronts Sebastián twice, once before confronting MIL and one after. In the story both events are different yet supposed to be the same.
OP is a doormat shees
wasn't this uploaded before
this man sucks, if he doesnt prioritize you, you can prioritize yourself OP. Divorce taking full custory and go therapy
OP Is So Dumb She Should’ve Left In The Beginning
Wtf?
People who want kids to stop saying "first" and "under 1 hour gang"
Lol. "how could he share intimate details of our relationship" with one person while she is doing it with millions.
I mean overall she's not in the wrong and she needed to gtfo from that relationship a long time ago. But that particular point made me laugh.
Probably fakest story you could find
ETA (Everyone The A-hole)
It feels like OP sugarcoated a lot of her actions. I'm not saying the others were justified, but it seems OP didn't exactly make it difficult for them.
Im seriously pissed that there are men like her husband. Like he could not seperate friend and spouse.
YTA
They say that opposite gender can be friends. Then you see shit like this. If you are going to marry someone and they are super duper close to an opposite gender bestie and will defend them no matter what. They have feelings for each other. Period. You should be able to tell your “bestie” to chill and not do this and that. They you s.i. Doesn’t. You got your answer
I agree Me and my wife kind of share the same ideals. I don't have a female friends and my wife does not have any male friends. And it seems to work for us. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Cause you get marri, did you shouldn't have opposite gender friends
Who cares if they have romantic/sexual feelings for each other?
She is toxic ☣ as Hell even if it is 💯% platonic.
The "best friend" still need to go.
You have to remember Reddit is not the majority of cases, just the extreme cases which are the least common. Most of the time it's fine, but those calm stories don't make it to reddit for obvious reasons.
Second😢
Yo first let's goooo🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Fourth
Making this comment because of yesterday's post;
Was anyone else in the middle of listening to it when UA-cam took it down for "violating the guidelines"? Still salty about that, was just before the climax when I got an error message and than the "this video was removed"
Vertical video. Ew.
I'm a man and I think she should have left him earlier. Dude is spineless and a back stabber. His mom disrespected his wife to her face and he down played it, then his friend disrespected his wife and he downplayed it. He should have just took his L and kept it pushing 🫸 🫷
Well... yes.
Except I don't think he was ever on his wife's side over his "best friend" and "mother."