INDO-ARYAN: HINDI & ROMANI (VLAX)
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Romani sounds like an italian tries to speak hindi or any indian languages
Probably due to the Romani people settling in that area.
@@JaredtheRabbitNot probably, but definitely Gypsies came out of northern India about 1000 years ago to this day all over the world, and today most of them are in the foothills of the Carpathians, especially in Romania, Hungary and Slovakia
Or because this is Vlax variety which is influenced by Romanian
True
Romani has Greek influence, from the period when the Romas' ancestors lived in Greek-speaking Byzantine Anatolia, before entering Europe (the Balkan region).
Romani: an Indo-Aryan language or group of langauges that sounds the most "Europe-like" in terms of vibe and feel.
It's very conservative and in many aspects closer to Sanskrit than the modern Indian languages
I’m sorry Iam a Roma my self and our language is not understood by Europeans not a single word ! But you know who understands many words from our language ? Iranians and Indians only those two nobody else in the world .. and you know who called them selfs Aryans back in ancient times ? Iranians and Indians .. and we Roma came from ancient India .. so honestly Aryans were not Europeans it’s just the Nazis lied that’s why there’s misinformation about the word Aryan and the swasitika symbol .. it was our symbol and name ..
@@cezar211091 Romanes (Roma) language is the oldest Sanskrit language basically .. Indian language went through evolution that’s why doesn’t sound like Roma language .. but some Indian cast kept their original words and those can understand our language at least some words and also Iranians can understand many words as well ..
Just like Maltese within Semitic languages
Turkish within Turkic languages
What lol. Romani and Sanskrit are as distinct as Hindi and Sanskrit.
No language of modern time is comprehensible with Sanskrit.
You can definitely see and hear the Greek, Slavic and Romance influences on the Romani Language. The dialect in this video sounds like it’s from Spain 🇪🇸 because of the accent. I am half Roma from Poland 🇵🇱 but unfortunately my family does not speak the Roma language.
This dialect is from Chile, and originally this group of Roma came from Serbia at the beginning of the XX Century
Probably that's why it sounds Spanish with some Slavic words. I noticed "blagosime" (in Polish "błogosławić" means "to praise", probably in Serbian it is similar) and "volia" (which is "will" in many Slavic languages)
Well to be more accurate the guy who speaks in this video sounds more like Italian accent .. but Italian Spanish Romanian languages is part of the Latin family languages so it’s sounds similar .. just like our Romanes language is part of the indo-Aryan family languages .. originates from Sanskrit it’s an very old ancient language our Romanes language is .. and unfortunately my heart hurts because not just my family but my entire cast majority of us doesn’t speak our beautiful ancient language ! Because in Hungary at the time they decided to erase the Roma gypsy language traditions and culture from us by hanging us from trees or burning us or taken away our children from us forever if we said just one word in romanes or if we practiced any of our own traditions or cultures .. but as a grown Roma man I made a promise to my self that I will learn our beautiful mother language .. respect for the kalderash lovari Sinti tribes if it wasn’t for them we wouldn’t even know how our mother language sounds like there for god bless them for being so strong mentally they would rather die than to change their traditions customs there for god bless those gypsy tribes 🙏 💪🏼 ❤️ ..
Hi, friend! We Spanish Gypsies do not speak Romani Vlax dialects. The vlax branch has its origin in Romania and is very mixed with the Romanian language (our group did not pass through Romania and this is why we do not have Romanian influences).
Although not many Spanish Gypsies are able to speak our language, those of us who do, speak the same dialect (we call it "kalengero" or "kalengeri") and it has two forms. In the north of Spain, it resembles the Rromanes formerly spoken in France, Germany and northern Italy. In southern Spain, on the other hand, it is similar to that spoken in southern Italy and Greece.
As you have already been told, the dialect spoken in this video is Chilean Vlax. It was brought to Chile by serbian gypsies in the early 20th century.
Note. Romani has many dialects that are NOT very mutually intelligible with each other. This is just one variety of many romani dialects
I would love to hear the different Romani languages compared against each other. Finnish Kalo, Angloromani, Vlax as well as Domari and Lomavren.
@@Nwk843 She is??
@@Nwk843 I fail to see the relation 😭
Yes!👍
They're not languages, but dialects
Very accurate comparison! It was the language precisely what made it possible to determine the territory of origin of the Romani people (the Indian subcontinent).
Thie romani shown here is the variety spoken in Chile. It is a sample text from the new testament in romane xoraxane. Greetings from Chile.
How do you know?
@@utente1489 I know because I have a copy of the new testament in romane myself. In fact there was a project to translating the whole bible in this language but it is not finished yet.
@@robertofranciscomonsalvesp8080 is there a book that you can buy? I'm interested
Today I learned Romani was spoken in Chile lol
@@oliveranderson7264It's true, but by a small minority of the population. Around 10,000 Roma live in Chile. They still keep their culture alive.
It is very noticeable the Greek influence, in lexicon and probably in phonology!
I picked up on some Slavic vibes myself. "Blagosime" for "hallowed" --- cf. Bulgarian "blagodarya" (thank you) or Polish "blogoslawic" (to anoint; to hallow).
As well as "volia" -- cf. Polish "wola" (will; desire) or "wolic" (to prefer).
@@danielvanr.8681 yes, and also "prostisar" for forgive (f.e. Bulgarian "prostya" - the same). But also Greek influence in numerals from 7 to 9 - in Greek, it is, IIRC, epta, oxto, ennia.
@@Nwk843i heard that Romani is more like a dialect that a language because you can't express that many thing in the language, is the person who tell me this wrong?
@@Nwk843 Yes. Indo-European languages. So obviously there's going to be similarities here and there. Still no reason for Gypsies to roam the continent...
@@Nwk843 HAHAHAHAHA
Would be interesting to compare different Romani varieties
Romani sounds like Hindi that is slightly latinized. Might be the accent/regional dialect.
It's not even close to Hindi based off this video
Thanks, Romani is one of my favorite languages (I’m not Romani). I have the Kalderash dictionary 😅
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@@MyFavColourIsGreen 👀👀👀🤷🏽♂️
Romaní sounds like greek, 7,8,9 is like this numbers in greek efta, ochto, enea.
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@@Nwk843There is no historical or archeological record pointing to any of your claims. The modern Greek numbers have already sounded the way they do before the Romani ever came close to Europe and derive from Ancient Greek ἑπτά (heptá), ὀκτώ (oktṓ) and ἐννέᾰ (ennéa) which experienced regular sound changes and are easily derived from Proto-Indo-European numbers. Don't speak on matters you barely know. Especially don't make up big theories
@@Nwk843 You've got theories but no evidence. Also romanis werent present in the balkans or in Europe during bronze age
@@metaphonyenjoyer4386 I hope you know that 0 Zero is made in Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran/Rajasthan we made the Modern Mathematics 😂 the Greeks was use Mathematics as Philosophie the Arabs change the Optik and today we all use the Indo Arabian Number System 😂 the Romans and Greeks was not use 0 Zero
@@enis-OnePiece What does this have to do with anything?
Where's stand alone video of Romani? :(
Algumas palavras são parecidas mas tem grande diferença. Muito lindas as línguas destes lugares
Abraços de Brasil!!!
I've got a great idea please do a comparison of all Pakistani languages Punjabi, Pashto, Urdu , Sindhi and Balochi.
It goes to show that it doesn't always matter if you're part of the same language family; phonology plays a huge role on how it sounds.
I heard how gypsies from Russia speak, I think that it sounds closer to hindi than this one in the video. Their language doesn't sound European, but I noticed that they use Russian words for numbers.
A lot of words in the prayer come from Church Slavonic, or Bulgarian (and Romanian can have such loans as well).
@@Nwk843 So... the reason why the Romani "dialects" are not mutually intelligible, is not the high amount of local loanwords, but the high number of synonyms in Sanskrit? And thanks to Romani, these Sanskrit words made their way also to any languages, including to Hungarian (város - 'city')? Interesting, when exactly did the Romani reach Latvia, if Latvian Romani kungs 'God' -> Latvian kungs 'master, Sir' -> Swedish kung 'king' -> other Germanic languages?
@@Nwk843Every single thing you said except maybe that last comment is totally wrong but you said so much I won't even bother trying to explain it
Romani sound like Roman language, or Spanish
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Yeah, even though the words are clearly Indo-Aryan, it sounds like a mix between Romanian and an Italian language (at least to me as a French speaker)
@@oliveranderson7264 It's not a mix of anything, it's just an Indo-Aryan language. It just sounds Italian and has a lot of loans.
@@YourCreepyUncle. I'm well-aware, that's why I said "it sounds like". I'm very ignorant when it comes to Indo-Aryan languages so it's natural for me to associate Romani with languages I'm already familiar with but of course it's its own thing and should be treated as such.
Go study latin and you will notice it has nothing to do with romani. And this also does not sound like spanish.
Nice partnership you have hear.
It's absurd to think of Indo-European people essentialy hating their own brothers; Coming from same ancestors: But, it is Europe afterall, they fight eachother for numerous other reasons even if their language family is mostly the same unlike those of us in Asia.
Which Romani dialect is this one? In Romania for example we have so many starting from their old jobs(flower sellers, gold jewelery makes, kitchen silver bowls etc) and they barely understand each other..
@@Nwk843 ah, ok, Spoitori, ye
dzane romane tuke?
Is Romani written in the Latin alphabet?or is it one of those languages that doesn’t have a writing system?
We don't have our own script. When I found out that my own mother tongue had an alphabet that scholars invented I was mind-blown haha
The Romani dialect used in the video is a made-up mix of dialects that no Romani speaker would use. Additionally, the speaker's accent is not gonna lie hella gnarly. It seems like the speaker is a Calo, which means a Romani person from Spain. The Cale in Spain have lost their language and now speak a combination of a few Romani words with Spanish. I do not intend to offend anyone, but there is a lack of accurate representation of our language online. Therefore, the limited representation we have should be genuine and authentic.
Thanks for saying this
Can you do
javanese (Indonesia)
javanese (suriname)
If you want to shine throughout life, my dear Romani friend, so be like a 4. ⭐
Nice music for Romani
Can you do Lithuanian and Domari?
Romani numbers sounds like Dari numbers!
Could the following video be about the similarity of the Sanskrit language and the Serbian language?
Romani with gujrati and rajasthani or marwadi language. Highly requested!
Why does Romani sound so much like Greek?
Cos it's from indo aryan family, from indo european branch, it's more older than greek too.👍👍👍
Does Romani contain Sanskrit word?
Don't believe this Nwk person. They spread a lot of pseudoscientific misinformation about history and linguistics under every comment on this video. Almost everything this person says is absolutely wrong
Because the Roma, before coming to the Balkans, stayed for a long time in Greek Byzantine Anatolia, which influenced the Romani language and Romani structure to such an extent that, even in genetics, a percentage of Greek genetics can be found
@@Nwk843 I'm Romani and I speak Romani, which is a bit like that, but there's no Hebrew, Arabic, Egyptian or Turkish influence, which is really very slight and depends on the Romani clans that are often in or around Turkey.
is romani belongs to indo - Iranian languages because it sounds more like romance languages rather than indian languages
It seems to have way more Greek influence rather than Romance one. Modern Greek is, phonollogicaly, very similar to Italian and Spanish, but it is still genetically distant.
@@Nwk843 Of course it is Indo-Aryan. I was just pointing that the Hellenic influence is clearly higher than Romance one, but it is just that, influence and contact (which can modify even the phonology), but far to be the basis.
Aside of that, I'm well aware about the (mainly lexical) influence of Roma languages in European ones, since I speak Spanish!
Hugs for you too.
not indo iranian. only some number lik iranian language
If a language on India, and Romance language had a baby.
I heard most Romani don't know numbers in Romani, anyone know if its true?
I noticed that Russian gypsies use Russian words for numbers .
@@Nwk843 I really don't get what you're getting at :(
Thats not True at all, they use both Romani Numbers and the Regional.
We know numbers in Romani
Not as similar as I thought they would be. Please do Interlingua!
I thought it was called romaneš... Anyway there's not a standard. This variety sounds close to greek so I guess it's greek romani.
Sure, it's even in the title - it's Vlakh Romani :)
@avtandil Now I get it 😅 I didn't know what Vlax meant. Thanks
they even shar dna with italian. i think they are from romans soldiers hows captuted by persian and parthian and were sold to indian.in old time indian by the slaves and releese them.
Do Colombian Spanish ❤
Me Som Rom polskatyr …. I am gypsy from poland
Seven and eight same as Greek
I really dont think this is the romani spoken by gypsys in eastern europe at all cuz it sounds nothing alike
they are called roma or romani people, not gyp**s. that is a slur that dehumanizes romani people
@@luckneh5330 It is a shame if they really mind because I cannot find any "Romani" music but Gypsy music is everywhere. I've only seen a few people who really care but it is no longer possible to separate Gypsy from Romani, and thankfully almost no one uses it as a slur.
@@luckneh5330 Imagine being Romanian and getting confused with Gypsies who for some reason call themselves romani
@@luckneh5330 it would dehumanize them if they were human. they are not
I like how Romani sounds
हमें(hamen)-amen(in romani)
Finally. Romani!
What?in Romania they speak v different
This is the greek dialect
5 , 100
Don't see the similarities at all outside of the numbers.
The texts are different, which doesn't help.
ПОЧЕМУ ТЫ НЕ ВИДИШЬ СХОДСТВО? 😂.. ЭТО НАШ ДИАЛЕКТ РУССКИХ РОМОВ ИЗ РОССИИ, 🇷🇺 И ОЧЕНЬ СИЛЬНО ПОХОЖ
But in bible it says God confused languages
Ismail z nowej generacji gadał i gadał Tazowi o cygańskim chłopcu. 😂
SHIVA BLESS THE SPEAKERS
I had a Rom friend she told me that her language is like salad a lil of many languages
Sound like Italian
Godo nay chi le suaturia horta romanes godo si jorajay chile
Im roma people, and I love my homelend India and my brother and sister indian❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Andy redo this video beloved sister, compare Hindi, with domari and romani, pottohari together, in the past other collaborators asked you to do this and you forgot, kisses, health, hugs 💋💋
EFTA come from Greece
Numbers from 7-9 are borrowed from greek
Ismail i Makize przywitali Nowy Rok 2024!
Jaooo 😰 Devla akhala Gurbetija Joooj hal tumen O' Beng hem tumare Daja e Rumunka
Devla=god
Tumare=Yours
I am from India am I right
@@Shiva-nx1tn In other languages this words are also the Same 🤣 What you whant to tell me with this ???
We are not from Hindustan 🤣 and you Indians are not Aryans 😂 only an small part in Hindustan is Aryan
@@enis-OnePiece listen first of all Aryan Ain't a race its a group Of People Who speak Indo- Iranian Language the word aryan came from Hindu Book rigveda its an Indian word itself lol So technically Indians Are aryans the second time its used by Iranians
Second thing Gypsies are indeed from India .why?
they carry Y chromosome haplogroup H-M82, mtDNA haplo .The primary branch H1 (H-M69) and its subclades is one of the most predominant haplogroups amongst populations in South Asia, particularly its descendant H1a1 (M52). A primary branch of H-M52, H1a1a (H-M82), is found commonly among the Roma, who originated in South Asia and migrated into the Middle East and Europe, around the beginning of the 2nd millennium CE, and the Khmer people who got under influence from Indian populations.[4] The much rarer primary branch H3 (Z5857) is also concentrated in South Asia from google I have pasted you people were not even indo - european Cause you dont carry R1A1 haplogroup you probably were 100% Indian thats Why you people consists such large Indian dna even after 1000 years
Hindus travelled all over the world and spread their language and culture.....once whole world as following hindusim one or the other way until came abrahamic religions.
No evidence for that whatsoever. Also romanis were heavily influenced, not the other way around.
@@Dinosaur315He is partially correct. Bogazköy inscription of Turkey mention Vedic God's Indra,Varuna etc.
@@PRINCEVEGETASUPERSAIYANyou forget mithra the sun god
This is not iven Real Roma Language Please come to us in Turkey/Macedonia if you whant the Roma language without any Slavic/or Rumanian Words
Romanis aren't Aryans
Gypsies are Indian people
If you refer the term Aryan as a reference to Hitler's idea of Pure Aryan race- as I understood, this is actually more refered to the Indian enthnicity, they are the Aryan race ( because it came from ancient Sanskrit (ārya) which means noble).
@businessman4473 Haplgroup doesn't necessarily mean that you couldn't get Aryan genes lmaooooo. Even the Roma have aryan genes, even hitler declared that the Roma had aryan genes but were too impure due to their mixed race.The brother knew but our skin tone bothered him and he genocided us.
@@eli_saama215whatever , but aryans werent 'White blonde hair blue eyes people' they all are gone and mixed within different ethnicities of todays.
We are the Original Aryans ❤
O' Devel tano Romano 💖
First
romani very simlar persian
che fialo romani shib si kodya? Te na fakapisares la.
This is romani greek dialect anda kodeja bash ni rasumis
oh, so it's Christian channel.....ok
and?
Well no da she is a Filipino now there is a small Muslim group in the south but the majority are ethers Catholic or Protestant
Please Ex Soviet Languages
You shouldn't post everything on UA-cam, there's people here that shouldn't learn/know the language
Oh well buddy. I’ve been into Romani for many years. Love Romani culture!, There’s people across the world with distant Romani heritage
They are the original Aryan . Germans stolen it
I think its more related to Sanskrit
More like Gujarati or Marwari