Another CHEATER truck! - Rock Pirates RC Interceptor Chassis - Ep1
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Today we are converting a VS4-10 Phoenix Portal to a Rock Pirates RC Interceptor Chassis and Hardline Bed for the Proline Power Wagon body.
VS4-10 Phoenix Portal: bit.ly/3LHmbXE
Proline Body: bit.ly/3v3Kt6c
Interceptor Chassis: bit.ly/3dDKM3m
Power Wagon Sliders: bit.ly/3c3YlIH
Hardline Bed: bit.ly/3As0pDL
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Mine went together super smoothly. The shock holes are a non-issue. Niloc nut and never think about it again. This thing is rigid as can be and a huge upgrade over the stock chassis.
Have the stainless rails and they are amazing, the 4mm holes have came into play for me with maneuver around the servo in the front towers as well as friends of mine appreciating the bigger holes for the ability to powder coat. Definitely products worth checking out, sad to see some of you guys being deterred from an abundance of amazing products without checking them out!! 10/10 recommend over any other brand for your crawler upgrades!! Durable yet sleek.
It’s a solid chassis, I like it overall but the 4mm thing really is a poor design choice. I’m going to enjoy building the rest of the project for sure, and almost all chassis that I’ve ran in the past have some sort of negative, this just happens to be very unique.
But I can drill holes bigger myself……
I can’t make them smaller again…..
Dislike for stealing my Dad humor.
🤣
My interceptor was a fun build. I used the VFD and F10 combo as well. Stock Phoenix links just bolt right up. With the VFD the element tray is required as the 10.2 servo tray won’t work with the VFD trans. But the chassis is great. The shock tower holes are fine. Once you tighten them it makes ZERO difference, all these comments saying it’s a deal breaker, I don’t have any idea why. Tighten your shit up and it’s great, ive never had an issue with any of my towers or this chassis.
100%. Glad you’re enjoying your chassis 🤙🏼🏴☠️
I run small packs so I’ll side mount my battery instead. The chassis is solid, the 4mm holes are just a bad design element IMO even if they don’t fail.
I kinda like the Rock Pirates chassis. What I really need to do is to pick up a Phoenix so I can clone this build. Nice start. BTW, I picked up a set of those VXT2 tires, nice work. They stick like glue, just need a set of the larger Anti Foams for them. 👍🏼
The larger anti foams work amazingly in those tires
Man I was gonna buy one till I saw this It’s a no go for me because of the over sized shock wholes Gotta be perfect for me 100 percent
It’s not the worst thing in the world but it’s something I don’t like. Once it’s bolted up you don’t notice but still a choice I just don’t get.
Agreed. If/when the screws start to wiggle, they will wallow out the holes even more and make it worse. It's more likely to happen with those holes being too big, since you're then relying on the clamping force of the screw & nut to keep it from slipping
My feelings exactly!
@@HarleyDesignsInc It’s pretty bad!!!
I mean. If it’s adjustable then it’s adjustable regardless of whether you want it to move or not..So making it “Sloppy” is just Lazy and ridiculous..
Don’t let it stop you. Tighten the screw and it’s irrelevant.
I always like to see the new things that have come out , and see you work out the kinks . I agree I’m not liking the gap on the back but I’m sure you will come up with something because that’s all I would see every time I looked at that truck until I fixed that. Other than that I like the kit and the way everything is going together. Keep it going !!!
I think it’s going to be a sweet little truck when it’s done! Looking forward to finishing it up.
@@HarleyDesignsInc I think so as well I always look forward to what your building it is how I am learning more about the hobby as well as building on my own but sometimes that can be a slow process , other hobbies of course the music man .
I think that the oversized holes are an absolute deal breaker..
I’ve spent my entire life trying to get things to fit properly and oversized holes just make things wear out waaaaaay faster!!
We have had the same shock towers on our trucks for years and have never worn out a single screw or hole. Use nylocks like you should and you won’t have any issues.
Never had an issue with the big holes, if anything they are not even noticed when tightened up with a lock-nut. Not even wear and tear on the holes after running the same towers for over a year and half now. 🤙🏻
You dont even notice the holes, in my opinion that was just a reason to have a negative opinion on the chassis as he couldn't find one anywhere else. As all there products are absolutely 💯 amazing and have not failed anyone i know using there products. I have a complete rock pirate build with everything rprc makes for the 10.2 with vanquish everything even transmission and f9 axles with all vanquish internals with rx4 esc and holmes hobbies puller pro v2 2700kv its an absolute 💯 👌 hardline killer! Thanks again rockpiraterc and vanquish products for creating amazing quality parts for your customers 😀
@@SierraCrawler530 I Love Rock Pirate stuff!! I think it’s a great looking chassis but…
I can Almost guarantee that even if you don’t “notice” it, every single time that particular fastener takes a solid lick, and they all do, it’s gonna move and when things move they wear..in a hobby that is tough on stuff anyway I don’t see a good enough reason to manufacture a weak point..
@@secretsquirrel2112 i see nothing weak about the chassis at all... for the price its an amazing chassis to go along with all there other products that are awesome.
Met the Crew from Rock pirates RC at Axialfest west great group of people and so many cool rigs, think i can look past the larger hole issue. will definitely be converting my enduro to this chassis
I was literally asking about these chassis rails on your last beam stream!! Hyped to see how it turns out. Just scooped a Capra kit to see how that goes into the interceptor!!
Amazing idea!! Throwing my 4ws capra on the rails as i comment this !!
@@xavierholtz5101 thanks. The capra kit was $140 off on horizon and I couldn't turn it down. It's my first "build" though so kinda nervous!
Look into the Negative G ccv1 kit it is a Direct bolt on for the Capra
@@michaelj1123 I'm pretty set on the rock pirates set up
I love my rock pirate set up on my Element! Check out negative G on UA-cam😬🇺🇸
Nice build, I have a unbuilt Phoenix kit lying around and this might be a great application. Look forward to seeing the rest of the build. For the oversize holes in the shock mounts 1/8 inch eyelets would get rid of the slop if that is still bothering you ;)
Well since its all Rock Pirates, should be themed off a pirate movie, GOONIES!
It’s hard not to want to build more, with builds and laid out plans like yours, how can I not. Great vid great build 🛻🪨🌲🌳
If you are concerned about the 4mm shock tower holes Amazon has bunch of 4mm od X 3mm id flanged bushings . I just picked some up for my chassis.
I’m currently building on this chassis. How do you think your Gspeed cross brace would work with it?
The shock holes alone make this a hard hell no for me.
With as much product as there is on the market, I have found things I like the fit of way better than this. This is a company I will avoid. Thanks for the review.
Be well.
That’s unfortunate. You would have really like our products. 👍🏼
It may not bother other people...but I used to work for NBC and your looking off to the side is bothering to me. Just a suggestion...put your monitor over the camera so you look like your talking to your audience. Great info ..fun channel...great content. Thank you
There is UA-cam videos and Instagram videos from Rock pirates on this chassis
I agree... just bought rock pirates stuff, and I did NOT appreciate the massive holes (4mm)... I wish they were 3mm
Josh: ARRRRRRRRGH! Everyone: Stop... stop it... must stop. STOP!
I was going to build a GSpeed V3 and rebuild the daughters Element Gatekeeper and like you said. I found, financially, it made more sense to purchase the builders kit, build new parts for her, rebuild the old parts to put on the V3 and sold all the stuff i didn't use to recoup almost half the cost of the kit.
I got the nwsd v2 chassis for trx4 sport.with the cliffhanger body and braised up a bumper as well.
Looks like a very fun build!!
I have the same problem with my rock pirate shock towers! It just seems like sloppy design when the hole tolerances are off.
Not a fan of this chassis, those 4mm shock mounting holes... i would grind that down and throw those towers away. I'd always choose the GSpeed V1C1 over that.
I recently bought a C1V1 truck. I’ve had a V2 and V3 previously before. They were all fine trucks but my Brazin stuff has probably been my top picks so far.
@@HarleyDesignsInc yep I actually asked your preference between Barzin and GSpeed on one of your live show. I actually prefer Gspeed.
Don’t knock something until you try it
You have a Brawndo themed truck. How about a idiocracy Starbucks themed truck lol. Or a idiocracy Costco truck. Windshield banner could be "Welcome to Costco. I Love You"
I had moosejaw paint that one, doing either of those myself may be beyond my skill set 😂😂
THANKS for sharing Josh. 🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼🏴☠️☠️
Liking the build so far.
Should go with a "Goonies" theme that would be very cool
Agree 100% on the 4mm shock holes being a poor design. Wish they would change this.
Right!? It’s sucks cause you can’t make holes smaller..😂🤣
I could’ve made them bigger if I wanted too..Not necessary to force it on me..
I have been running the same truck for 2 years with this hole design and have never sheared a bolt. It definitely has more advantages than disadvantages
Could you uses the little brass c cups to sleeve the 4mm shock mounting holes or it it too stupid to buy that 4mm hole thing 🤔 kinda making me want g speed chassis instead. Please tell me or us if it's a big deal
It’s a little annoying but not a deal killer. It’s still a very easy build.
Ooof, the sloppy shock mounting holes would drive me nuts! Sticking with G-Speed it is 😂👍
Thank you for the review!
I’m going to enjoy the build still. I’ve done a few Gspeed as well. They’ve all had items I didn’t like but also things I did like.
Nice! It's all about the smiles per hour, in the end.
Is the Track bar mount supposed to hit the front diff?
It all depends on when you’re looking at it. If you’re compressing both sides at once, then it’s no big deal because that doesn’t really happen while crawling. Otherwise, it also depends on your shock position.
@@HarleyDesignsInc Thanks!
Is it possible to mount the phoenix body onto this chassis? I like power wagons as much as the next guy....but I have enough already! Phoenix body on this build would be the duck's guts :)
Swisher Sweet?
Design a rear bumper that will butt up again the bed and fill in that gap. The truck looks good. You gotta go with some kind of pirate themed paint job 👍
I think you’re exactly right, build something to try and make it flow more to the rear. Not sure what yet but I have some outside the box bumper ideas.
@@HarleyDesignsInc You always do. Outside the Box, I mean.
Do you remember "the stick" crawler from about 15 years ago? In the super/unlimited class with clod axles and 7+ inch tires?
Great video! Would love to start a project like this for myself. Thanks for the great ideas. By the way I hope u don’t mind me asking but where did u get ur hat? It’s awesome!
Rock Pirates is a great company the owners stand behind the product. I have a lot of their products on my 10.2 power wagon build and it definitely improved the performance.
I’ve met them a couple times as well, great guys.
Why on earth would you make the shock mounting holes larger? What a nightmare....That's a deal killer for me
That’s unfortunate. It has been an advantage more than it has ever been a disadvantage 👍🏼
@@rockpiratesrc3828 The thing is .... it's so easy to drill out the one or two holes if things Don't Fit correctly it just seems unnecessary and for so many it feels wrong. I understand your reasoning and it would never be a problem because, know it's there, I would ALWAYS be checking it, expecting a problem. I've worked with too much old equipment and know the problems when things get loose and wallowed out. They never seem to stay tight after the damage is done.
Can you make a STI file for a hitch rear bumper for the Phoenix please.
Good info man, thanks!!!
Like button on legend on.
I run their vs 4-10 front and scx10 II rear shock towers on my phoenix
Awww C’mon!!! You cannot do the “Pirate Aaarrrgghh” without a headscarf!
I had a hard enough time getting that one out! Outtakes at the end…
just curious if you think its that much of an improvement or merely cosmetic vs stock. Also Id like to see you put some straight non plastic axles in a phoenix. essentially turning it into a pro with the twin transmission. I say you, cuz I want to do it and I want you to do it first. lol
It’s a style change mainly for me, but the chassis is much shorter too so it will help with performance as well. It’s a lighter chassis since there isn’t much to it also.
@@HarleyDesignsInc right on. thanks for the feedback. I'm trying to figure out which kit to get. I like the transmission in the phoenix but prefer the straight axle of the pro.
understandably you couldn't let me know the straight axle was about to release. Next time comment with "bumblebee tuna" and I will know to hold off on buying for two weeks. "Bumblee Tuna by the pound" if I should have off longer. Thanks
i thought a servo mount flipped to the back will act as a chassis brace and line up to mount the bed.
Rather than buying a servo brace I’ll just design something small that give me more link clearance and mounts the bed.
If you still have this, would you wanna sell it?
So your saying I should sell my reefs micro 99s when they come in For reliability ?
Just get them setup real well, I’ve seen people use those and the NSD micros successfully. They just get hot fast if not double or triple checked!
Something on that chassis is off dimensionally. Like the skid area is so long
It does have a longer belly section, which fits the contour of the sliders better, but differs from other options considerably.
@@HarleyDesignsInc are the sliders better for being longer though? Seems like a lot of flat surfaces to hang up
Guess I’m having a hard time seeing the advantages of this chassis vs stock frame rails compared to what’s already on the market. Long belly with no skid angle, no rear upper link adjustment, no fmm compatibility 🤷🏻♂️ just my opinion
Pirate theme would be fitting, gold wheels with a black and white body for example. Even though black bodies are bad for video.
What about white and black body with gold wheels . Predominantly white body black accents
I do love gold wheels right now. I’m just think that the pirate theme was too “on the nose”
I really want to like this but i cant get past the 4mm holes when i dont have any 4mm hardware and shocks are made for 3mm screws. So like, spend alot of money on a rig just so you have shitty mounting points for your shocks... i cant imagine it wont shift after a good roll. adding a bit more material and another line of 3mm holes could have worked but idk. i would rather use shock keys or anything else but a loose hole.
Manitoba cigarettes from King of the Hill for a theme?
Mad max theme
I’ve seen some really well done trucks like that. But may not be as fitting for a clean build. I do love that movie!
@@HarleyDesignsInc maybe florescent orange paint scheme 🤔
Rear mounted winch in the hole maybe 🤔
Fuel cell maybe?
Use the ccxrc mighty chihuahua’s.
I love the VFD for a trail truck but it’s just too big to put in a cheater truck
The VFD Twin has a lot going on, but if you’re comparing the standard VFD to a setup that actually uses a forward mounted motor and everything that goes with it (forward mount, intermediate shaft, aluminum trans case) then it’s really not any larger or heavier.
@@HarleyDesignsInc Hi Josh, don’t get me wrong, I love me some VFD but that’s just not the choice that I would make for a cheater rig. I haven’t done a side-by-side weighing with a VFD and a 2low or some of the other lightweight offerings but I would like to see it. Hint hint
@@HarleyDesignsInc Hi Josh, don’t get me wrong, I love me some VFD but that’s just not the choice that I would make for a cheater rig. I haven’t done a side-by-side weighing with a VFD and a 2low or some of the other lightweight offerings but I would like to see it. Hint hint
Jeepers creepers
Jack rabbit slims or long John silvers. I’d keep it fishy
Jack Rabbit Slims!!
Flying cars themed?
Gold ranger?
WAAAAA....
….NNNTTTT???
I'd cut the rails where it sticks out at the rear...
The extra rail out the back is if someone wants to mount a spare tire using the RPRC X Mount. The bottom of the tire sits between the frame rails. Also if you build a rear bumper and bolt it to the back of the rails if built right the bumper could save your truck from flipping over in certain situations 🤙🏻
I think I’ll try and build something to make it flow to the rear. I feel like it will look too stubby in the back if I cut the chassis.
@@HarleyDesignsInc tray with winch like they made on MORR heavy wrecker would be sweet :)
🥰🤩💥💯👍👏
Flat skid? class 1 cheater truck.
Ruined the phoenix how could you the original creator of the sexeat truck available shame on you sir lol
I have a few Phoenix already so not to worry 😁 but I like seeing what is new so throwing together a new truck is always a fun exercise!
Paul maul cigarettes
How about Paul Wall Ice Man instead?
@@HarleyDesignsInc, lol. A couple favorite Ice Man bars;
...Say Cheese And Show My Fronts,
It's Mo' Carats Then Bugs Bunny's Lunch....
&
...My teeth are mind blowing, giving everybody chills
Call me George Foreman 'cause I'm selling everybody grills...
So it's basically a brazin scale ATL but they screwed up the shock mounting holes. If you're going to copy a chassis you should do it right and I'd recommend copying a good chassis. Take a page out of g speeds book and copy a proven winning chassis, not some middle of the road design.
you show nothing of the building process lol.
For a guy who doesn't like flat rails you seem to be building a lot lately....
I love building new trucks 😁 I do enjoy the performance scene as well and the necessary evil that is coming with it.
Cool frame, not a fan of the 4mm shock holes ether.
Josh those tabs onthe bed are ment to go on the out side. They slide down enough to screw right in where you had the brace.
Not on this chassis, the shock towers are in the way and they don’t extend far enough down.
So then if they know the hardline bed is obviously used on the power wagon body, and that extra section of the chassis not being used should’ve automatically had them making that hardline bed longer either way no ??? And if it was said that it’s a need because of a stock element set up then make 2 different versions of the hardline bed ??
Could you use a couple conical washers and a little longer screw for the shock towers? Seems like that would fix any issues
You don’t have to use different hardware, you can just tighten down the 3mm hardware. It still holds fine, it just feels sloppy during assembly and I would like a proper tolerance like is used in most all parts.
i vote for Rad or Thrashin themed. something from when we were kids. rad would be easy, it would be just black and red. probably why those are still my favorite colors today. thrashin would be more difficult because it was more multi bright colored
Something 80’s or 90’s would be fun. I feel like I grew up mainly in the 90’s really.
@@HarleyDesignsInc ya for sure. i believe were both 37. so i dont really have memory of the 80s, but most of my parents VHS collection was from the 80s and early 90s
Great video. It's really cool that the Phoenix parts mount up.
Exited to see what you do with this.
Movie wise.
Pirates of the Caribbean curse of the Black Pearl.
Haha.
Or black beard ship, the Queen Anne's revenge.
Davie Jones.
Jack Sparrow.
Haha
Awesome build man.
Can’t get them to ship to my location 😢
Look people.
It's just Josh's personal opinion.
Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean you should be a sheep and diss it before you have actually tried it for yourself.
Dammit. Have a Phoenix portal that I’m looking forward to building stock.
After seeing a couple flat rail builds with them I think I might need a second…
You do... I'm gearing up for a 2nd now after building a c1 10.2 in between.
You do. I've built 3 Phoenix, my least favorite part is that 5 pound chassis. I've sold mine, bought an ecto. WAY better rig.
I put a carbon rail from Crawler Innovations, under one of them, it was better, but that trans is just not me.
Be well, and have fun
Definitely a little obnoxious to have 4mm shock mounting holes. On your side with that one. Almost wanted to pick one up but that’s now going to be a hard pass.
It’s so easy to build that it’s not a total deal killer, just odd.
The hole size is irrelevant ive been running the same trucks for two years and never had a bolt shear on me. Its just a matter of personal opinion 🤙🏻
After looking into it some more an easy solution for a more snug fit on the shocks. Reefs has the servo washers using them with a countersink flat head m3 screw from the inside out may tighten up the tolerance.
I am putting the interceptor chassis on my vs4-10 phoenix right now, and I agree with you about the oversized holes for mounting shocks. It is kinda weird. See how it holds up....
Great vid. Have a question I hope someone can answer. It seems the vfd skid is woder than the servo mount. Has anyone else come across this? If so what dis you do to solve? Squeeze and pinch or shim? Thank you
U were putting the bed on wrong those tabs on the bed go on the outside of the chassis
That’s not correct, unless using a narrower cross brace. I’m aware that they normally go to the outside but not with these parts.
@HarleyDesignsInc thats the way ive seen lots of people do it
On my 10.2 I have the rock pirates Servo tray and battery tray along with the 7" rock pirates sliders. It all went in to the 10.2 chassis fairly easily. I did have to add the spacers on my servo to make the servo horn clear the panhard mount. The sliders are really nice , but a bit heavy. The 4mm mounting holes on this chassis is a weird choice.
If I had a 3d printer I'd print some sort of tail light housing to fit the gap in the back.
Movie theme for the build, I’d say the Hulk
What is a Pirates favorite letter?
Is there a twist to this? I must know.
Most people think it’s R but it’s really the sea
What's a good 3D printer that will do a good job but not break the bank?
Ender 3. Cheap, reliable, and the definition of “good enough”
@@HarleyDesignsInc Thank you sir. Thanks for helping me build my pro. You are a huge asset to the community and an all around nice guy.
The porkchop express
Jack Burton here…
I've been eyeing the Phoenix Kit for a while now and after seeing a few of them assembled with all the stock part's in the box, I guess my main concern would be the rod ends being so sloppy, so my question is? (flat rail chassis, Redcat Gen 7 Sport, Portal Axles Everywhere, Shock Key's for tower adjustment, and plug and Play Electronics in a RTR), Is a Phoenix Kit with a Brushed Holmes/Hobbywing 1080 gonna be worth the 500+ to even consider over a RTR upgraded/weighted for about the same cost???
Scratching my head to come up with the time to sit and build...🤪😜🤪
I think you would be much better off with the Vanquish kit 😉
Comparing to a Redcat? Without question the Phoenix is a different level of quality.
@@HarleyDesignsInc Thank's I was sure hoping to hear that it's quality is top shelf... Suppose I'll make the plunge and give in to my itching to build a kit.
The Black Pearl
Excited to see what you do with this.
Do you and Matt try to one up each other on beginning of the video one-liners???
He’s much better at it than I.
You made me look up red Apple cigarettes damn you.
I love Tarantino movies 🤷🏻♂️
That's what made me mad I love Tarantino too. That I didn't recognize it right off the bat.
why not do the Black pearl theme. it would tie in the pirates rc. That would give you a bunch of options.
I’ve never seen the movies actually, and the Pirate theme seemed maybe too obvious? I’m on the fence.
4mm screw holes?? Didnt get the chinese who cut that the measurements ? Wtf?😂
This is manufactured in the US as a bonus.
@@HarleyDesignsInc That's a bonus...😗😆