Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT Tyre Review - 12 Months On The Next Gen Ranger
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- This is some of the most expensive rubber on the market.. Are they worth the high cost? Mark talks about his experience after 12 months of ownership - all the Pros and Cons.
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00:24 Context
01:12 Comparison
01:35 Overview
02:21 Off-Road
02:38 Comfort and Noise
03:37 Wet Weather
03:53 Towing
04:02 Tyre Wear
04:07 Should You Buy?
04:37 Cost
04:59 Recommendation
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Greatly appreciate the honest real world feedback and practical comparison notes against the Falken Wildpeak. The attempt at capturing road noose was a great addition as well. Nice video!
Thanks mate!
Thank you bro! Great review! I’m from Paraguay and here the BFG KO2 is very expensive, and the MT Baja Boss is a good one and more cheaper than the BFG!
You’re welcome. Funnily enough the MTs are very expensive in Australia - I guess it’s the import costs but they are a great tyre 😁
Good review! I have 285/70/17 E-rated 3-ply sidewall Baja Boss AT tires on my 4Runner. They work great in snow, rain and mud. I rotate my tires about every 5000 miles. I am surprised they are still fairly quiet on road. Mine are 2 years old and have 23,000 miles(37,000KM) on them. I have been very happy with them and will be going on another long road trip towing a trailer. Will see how well they work on the rocks at Moab Utah.
That’s great to hear they are still quiet as the aggressive treads do tend to get noisy over time. Thanks for the feedback!
great review, thank you! I have a '19 ranger and 30k miles on my 33" Ko2's... they're not good in the rain, but have been fantastic everywhere else. I'll definitely be considering these next year.
Yeah have heard that feedback from owners of the KO2s, although no personal experience with them. Yeah the Mickeys definitely worth a consideration. Cheers for watching. - Mark
Opinions differ- I never saw that issue in rain on my diesel pickup.
Thank you! From Colorado, USA.
You’re welcome 👍
Nice review from here in Wisconsin. Just ordered a set for my Silverado!
Nice one! Quality tyres 😁
Mickey T's are quite expensive in my country. They are even a bit more expensive than the BF Goodrich KO's. I bought the Radar Renegade R/T tires and it was the best choice of my life. Great quality, handsomely aggressive tread and sidewall design, and IMPRESSIVE price point. They're Rugged Terrain tires, which give you the benefits of both A/T and M/T tires. I currently have almost 30,000kms on them (60% of the time on-road, and 40% off-road) and they still look new!
Great! Yeah Mickey Ts also very expensive in Australia. I paid $600 a tyre for 33”.. Hopefully you continue to get good wear on the Renegades. How’s the road noise ?
2100$ for 4 tires in my country, Lt 255/85R17.
@@Perth4WDandCamping Almost zero road noise sir. The tread pattern on the Renegades are closely bunched together like A/T tires, hence no noise. What makes them look really good is the aggressive sidewall pattern similar to mud tires.
@thesoundofanimalsfighting5557 great to hear your happy with them
Great and very accurate review. I have these on my '16 F150 I only drive city/hwy. Not a lot of road noise, great in the rain and ride well. I love them and get lots of compliments. The only "bad thing" is the side wall rubs my UCAs at full turn but it's not terrible. I recommend these to anyone who has $2k to spend!
Agree - although no issues rubbing on mine with the +30 offset on the rims. Really happy with these tyres
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@@Perth4WDandCampinghow are these in the rain?
@GYMGUYFE really good. I’ve driven in heavy rain with the van on the back and was impressed.
I have a bit over 15,000 miles on my Mickeys. Mostly on paved roads, where most of us drive most of the time. They're unstoppable on dirt, snow, rain, loose terrain. But they killed my fuel mileage. I knew that it won't be great but losing 2.5 mpg is a bit harsh. But otherwise, they are true off road, all terrain shoes.
What size tyre are you running?
Did you go up in tires size??
Great tread wear with these tires I got about 40,000 miles on my tires and have plenty of life left on them. Make sure to rotate and keep front suspension maintained. These will last you some time
Great feedback! Pleased to hear should get some good mileage on these
Excellent tyres Mark, and Izzy was a star ⭐️
Yes really happy with them. Izzy loves her 4x4 - can certainly see her getting one when she’s older
great review, when i need new tyres i will have a look at them
Thanks mate. Yeah been really happy with them so far
Nice review Mark👍
Thanks mate
These tires are great all around
Agree 😁
The old Goodyear wrangler duratracs sing a resonant high C on the highway which is somewhat annoying.
Good to know. Many aggressive tread patterns can get pretty noisy
Just ordered mine, I was considering the At3w but being discontinued and my needs pushed me towards these
Interesting re AT3W tyre.
Sure you’ll be happy with the MTs. Performed flawlessly for us 😁
I’m currently running Nitro Ridge Grapplers and love them. Just curious if you have any experience with them and if you think the Mickey Thompson’s are better?
Sorry I don’t, however if you search up ‘Nitto Ridge Grapplers vs Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT’ on Google, you’ll hopefully find a forum discussion on www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/
Seems whilst some like the Nitros, the majority prefer the MTs.
Maybe if they are close, have a look at which performs better in the wet. That’s always an important factor to consider. I’ve been really impressed on the road driving in the wet on the Baja Boss.
Hope that helps and good luck!
On the east coast of the US these are some of the cheapest tires out ther ...they were cheaper than the goodyear oem's I replaced. That said, great tire. Maybe the best I've ever driven.
You’re very lucky. They are very expensive over in Aus - obviously due to transport costs.
Thanks for the review Mark. I have had the BFG KO2's for about 160k kms on my 200 series and have not missed a beat, except in the scraggly bush tracks, particularly when its damp. On road, gravel, beach and dry tracks all fine, but add water to the tracksand they struggle. My usage is 50/50 road/offroad, and from all that I have read and watched the MT Baja Boss AT seem to be the way to go. The weight isn't an issue as the BFG's were similarly heavy. From the looks of it the agressive sides should improve wet track handling.
One other question, with the heavier and thicker carcass how have you found in the lowering of the tyre pressures for tracks and sand, as compared to your previous tyres? Do you have to reduce them lower so you get the length and bagging out or is it about the same?
Looking to getting these middle of the year.
I’ve heard similar feedback re the KO2s which was whey they weren’t in my consideration.
Re lowering I can’t say I’ve noticed too much difference. You’ll get a bit more balloon effect with a 2 ply (Eg Wildpeak) but I’d personally sacrifice this for the added strength off road. I still get enough length out of the tread when I lower to 12-15PSI on the beach.
Thanks for that Mark. On the beaches down here in the Great Southern they are especially soft and going down to 8psi and lower is not out of the ordinary. Like anything new there will be an element of trial and error, but looking forward to it. 👍
Good luck with it. Let me know how you go 👍
I’ve had a similar experience with BFG KO2 on a 200 series. I’ve always found them great on road and off and much better in damp clay than the previous Cooper Discoverer ATs I used which were terrible. I’ve also been considering the Baja Boss AT next time because everything I’ve seen and read seems to suggest they are at least a little better at everything that’s the relatively old KO2. It was a great review and has me more interested in these tyres.
ours have worn out at 40k kms, got 41k kms from at811 as a comparison. hoped for more and were quality but now looking for something that hopefully lasts a bit better.
Interesting. I have 30k on mine now and tread wear is very minimal. Out of interest, what sort of use did you put these through? - was there a lot of towing and what tyre pressures were you running? Rotating / balancing every 10,000km makes a big difference for longevity on any tyre. I’m expecting to see over 80k on these but time will tell.
That was a good review. No towing, just live on 12kms of gravel road with lots of corners and hills. It’s a good test for any tires. I run 32 psi and had swapped and alignment done , on a prado 150 . Thinking the wild Peak you mentioned might be worth a go. Cheers
Tyre pressure could have been a contributor. I run 40PSI all round which was the recommended pressure from Tyrepower (they suggested 38-40). I’m sure gravel roads would have played a role - and no doubt you may have had to drop the pressure for these conditions.
Best way to work out what tyre pressure you need is using the 4PSI rule. If you search it up you’ll find some information. It’s by far the best way to keep your pressures right and for longevity.
If you’re looking for something different, Wildpeaks are good - not as aggressive as the MTs and have 2 ply sidewall instead of 3 on the MT which makes them not quite as strong, but they are a great all rounder and you’ll find a little less fuel use.
About 520 Australian dollars in
Mississippi, USA for my jeep Wrangler JL
What size tires?
Great video , nice to have information. Are they loud on the highway?
Hey. At 2:49 in the video you can see what they sound like on the highway. You can hear them but definitely quieter than mud terrain tyres I’ve owned
Hey Mark, noticed you removed your aerial. What did you use to put in the hole and how’s the radio go without it?
Cheers
Just screwed off the top section - I have height issues in the garage and work so gets hit all the time otherwise. Nothing in the screw piece. Radio ok around town but not fantastic outside of the CBD. I generally listen to streaming or downloaded music / podcast so it’s not an issue for me
What was your opinion between the wild peak in rain vs the Mickey Thompson
Honestly hard to pick them apart
Hows the ppf holding up?
Great thanks. Sure makes cleaning easier ☺️
Do you think these are louder than the Wildpeaks? Were they worse on mpgs compared to wildpeaks?
@@naturallyjosh yes to both. Baja Boss are heavier so will use a little more fuel and because the tread is more aggressive will be a tad noisier on the road
3-ply sidewall ONLY ON THE LT tire; not on the XL version. Does not say if LT in fact he implies they are XL
I wonder if these are that much better than MAXXIS RAZR AT811, NITTO Ridge Grapplers or the popular Wildpeaks.
Friends have run Razr before. Good tyre but they didn’t get high km from them which put me off a little. Wildpeaks AT3 are a great tyre but not really in the same category as the Mickey Thompson Baja boss ATs given the MT have a much more aggressive tread and thicker sidewall construction.
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Is the size you're running the LT size? Or the standard P-Metric?
LT
$600 a tire? Thats crazy. Maybe its your location but I have Baja Boss ATs on my ram Rebel and they cost about $330 per tire.
Yeah maybe more in Aus. You based in the US?
@@Perth4WDandCamping Yes,
I think that might be the difference.
Thanks for the video. Did you have any issues with balancing them? I just had them installed on my Ram 2500 Hemi and when I'm going between 70 and 78 I have a vibration that just wont seem to go away. I even had two different tire shops road balance them.
No mine balanced well. Can I ask if you have lifted the truck? I know this can sometimes some vibration issues and mine needed a centre bearing spacer kit. If not, perhaps best to contact Mickey Thompson direct for advice just in case there is an imperfection with one/or a number of the tyres
Hmm.. wondering which would be better, this or the Open Country at3. For snow, rain
Haven’t personally tested in snow but are rates for this use due to its asymmetric tread design. I’ve been very impressed with performance in the rain
Based on Tire Rack tests, Open Country better in rain and MT better in snow.
Did you have to recalibrate the speedometer for that size?
No the actual speed now matches the GPS speed almost bang on which is a plus 😊
Did you find the bigger tyres messed with your gears? How did you solve it?
Bigger tyres will always impact shift points and your Speedo. I would say shifting isn’t as smooth as on standard 31s but you do get used to it.
There are things that can be done in ForScan but should only be done by someone that knows what they’re doing. There is a Facebook group called ‘Ranger & Everest / Amarok Mods Aus - Inc ForScan - SAEB’ which has some good info if this is a route you want to go down
@@Perth4WDandCampingjust gotta say massive thanks for all your helpful replies in the comments… you’re a legend mate thank you 🍻
@@ConfusedGeriatric thanks so much. That means a lot 🙏
@@Perth4WDandCamping you’re very welcome, just giving credit where it’s due😁👍
@@ConfusedGeriatric thanks again
Did you tell any noticeable difference in offroad traction with these compared to AT3W's? How bad was the drop in mpg or liters per 100km?
Hard to compare fuel use to the AT3s given was on a different vehicle but given they are lighter than the MTs, I would expected fuel use to be marginally higher. Offroad traction I’ve found better in the MTs - much more aggressive treat and sidebiters on the Mickeys certainly helps. Saying that the Falkens are a great all rounder
What about the behavior and vibrations on the highway
Handles great and no vibrations. Like any aggressive tyre, regular tyre rotations - I do every service and balancing will prolong the life of the tyres and ensure you don’t have vibrations
Do they balance well my ko2 did have issues
Had no issues with balancing and close to 30k on them now. I have rotated every 10k
How many miles/km do you have on your tires now?
About 44,000km
What PSI do you run these at?
40 all round for day to day driving. Run the rears at 42 when towing
@@Perth4WDandCamping Awesome, thanks for answering!!
@ZD14 no worries 😃
Have you tried the Falken Wildpeak AT3W?
Sure have. Great tyre too if you’re not doing anything too wild offroad (they are 2 ply thick) vs 3 ply on the Mickey Thompson
@@Perth4WDandCamping Overall, which one did you prefer? I'm trying to decide if I should go with the MTs next time or stick with Falkens
@grandfatherwilkens2987 all comes down to your primary use. If it’s mainly on the road, with a small amount of offroad then the Falkens (they will be a bit quieter on the road and offer good offroad performance). If you’re doing 50/50 on road and offroad and want something more durable offroad (3 ply MT vs the 2 of the Falken) then the MT is in my opinion a superior tyre. For my use the MT ticks all the boxes
You get e load or the standard
They are the LT - light truck version
Hi do you miss Pajero sport
For sure. Made a lot of memories in the PS and never let me down. Very capable offroad.
Ranger just gives me a lot more options with higher payload/GVM, bigger engine for towing and more tech.
@@Perth4WDandCamping Thanks 😊
Can i have these on stock wheels and stock suspension? Or do i need to at least level?
You’d need a smaller sized tyre to fit on stock wheels. If you want to go 33s you’ll need new wheels
that poor 4 cylnder gonna explode
Who’s got the 4 cylinder ha? This V6 is loving it