Korg Kronos: Combi Basics
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2016
- This is a pretty short (by my standards) tutorial video on how to build a basic combi using various programs as well as the general theory behind how you would approach making a combi.
This isn't specific to the Kronos, but I use the Kronos to show how to build the combi as well as level it compared to other sounds or combis if you were to use them in succession against one another.
Dave, you have fixed this issue! INT-B is back. Oh the simplicity of your answer that manuals and multiple youtube videos couldn't solve. To other less than tech savvy folk, I add that the command "open" could be translated "go deeper into" a selected command. Thanks so much!
No problem at all! I'm glad you got things working again - The manual is excellent except it assumes you know a LOT already which doesn't help most people unfortunately.
Never hesitate to reach out if you get stuck, I'll see what I can do to help :)
I really like the way you maped how things work and then how you applied the process of creating,a Combe to the map. The Kronos is complex, but your videos help me understand a lot of its complexity.
Fairly new owner of the Korg Kronos and I thought this was awesome. It really cleared up a lot and suddenly Dave demystified a lot of the settings. Especially the IFX and routing. Thanks a lot Dave
Awesome Tutorial!
Thank you so much for this!
Keep up the good work
Hey thanks for this. Really useful information and at a nice level of detail.
Great tutorial thanks for posting
Some good information here. As far assigning Programs to Timbres goes- the (Combi) Page Menu Command "Copy From Program" simplifies the process, including assigning IFX & MFX. It does require that you redefine the Keyboard Zones for that Timbre as it resets to the default.
Thank you for putting this tutorial out here. The IFX routing is still very mysterious to me. It would be a huge help if you would record a video focusing specifically on the effects parameters and how they're manipulated, and if it's not too much to ask, please fill the video screen with the Kronos' screen. My 66-year-old eyes really struggled with the tiny Kronos screen as displayed. Thank you again!
Nice one David, my Kronos only arrived yesterday evening and this was a great help in understanding the board setup, thank you for your help and see you later on the forums :)
Steve Voina i pick mine up Fre
Friday.... Kronos x
really nice job!!!!!!!!!, what about using scenes to bring timbres at some volume level instead of sliding the mix volume controls? thks a lot
hey man we need a video on note maps for editing parts in karma drum kit scenes
your stuff is great thanks so much
MPC X auto keygroup sample function will teach you this hands on quickly.
Would you teach us how to use Karma in Seq?
For like a trance track
Thanks for a helpful tutorial. Could you also explain the USER/INT categories a little more fully? Is it possible to inadvertently change a preset combi by overwriting it with a new one? If so, how do I avoid that?
Hi David, you should add the ability to control string volume with a pedal or slide? Like we did in my video training? That was very helpful for live players to bring string in and out or up and down with pedal ?
You’re a good man 👨
Nice, simple. Thanks!
Could you take a shot at creating a Combi to play the Westworld (HBO) theme song?
Anibal Morales If there's more demand for it, then yes :-)
I think I am still missing something re set lists. 1. I wrote a program within Program called Berlin Dark Reverb with effects. 2. I transferred it to Set List. 3. The effect transferred all remaining set list empty slots to "Berlin Dark Reverb" as the default. 4.Berlin Dark Reverb also transferred into Sequence as the default instrument. 5. The regular Berlin Grand is completely gone and has been replaced by, of course "Berlin Dark Reverb". What did I do??
Setlists are just shortcuts, like how your PC or Mac can have shortcuts on the desktop.
To me, it sounds like you overwrote Int-A 000 which is the default Berlin Grand. All the stuff you mentioned (sequences, empty set lists, unassigned combis) point to Int-A 000 by default so when you overwrote it, everything else updates to reflect that.
What you should do is make your changes to the Berlin piano but save it somewhere else (U-G bank for example) so you don't run into this issue.
At the 11:00 mark you begin assigning the different channels to MIDI channel one. The video is quite dark and out of focus here. Which button(s) are you pressing to assign the MIDI channel, and what indicates that you have assigned a combi channel to MIDI channel one? Thank you.
Thanks Gordon. I'm pressing the "Timbre/Parameter" Tab, and then "Midi". On this midi page, you can choose which midi channel the tracks are being triggered by - In this case it should say "01G" for Channel 1 - General. (This is the midi channel the Kronos' keyboard is talking to more or less)
Hey Dave, love your work! Quick question: how can set a single sound (like strings) in a combi not to be sustained by the sustain pedal while the others in the combi do? Thanks for your help!
You're looking for a midi filter, you can filter out the sustain on certain midi channels so holding only applies to some layers!
@@AudoraAudio Thanks Dave, I'm not shure how to do that or where so I have to look into that. Or can I ask you to set me in the right direction ?
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That's the manual for the Kronos - check page 65 of the operations guide
@@AudoraAudio Found it, thanks!
Hi Dave. I thought I was putting a Combi into Set List and now all the preset factory sounds in INT-B are gone and replaced by a whole page of Init Combi. What did I do???
It sounds like at some point you would have had to initialize a combination but it asks if you want to do that for the whole bank.
If you go to Disk mode, find the Factory folder and load the "Preload.PCG" file, as long as you didn't edit any factory sounds, that should fix it.
Make sure when you go to the Preload.PCG that you press "open" and NOT load. Once you are looking inside of the file, look for combis and with that highlighted, then you can select "load", otherwise you'll overwrite any setlist items you've made.
Don't know if anyone can answer this...when I want to add a program to a pre set combi...in other words to an unassigned track, it appears to let me do it, but I cannot hear the instrument. Have not been able to get an answer to this yet.
The problem is that each new track you add needs to be 'triggered' from somewhere. In most cases, it's looking for MIDI input.
Think of the Kronos as two main parts: 1 part MIDI controller, and 1 part sound engine.
The MIDI controller (The keyboard) needs to tell the sound engine to play the sound.
When you assign a new track to a combi, try this:
Go to the Timbre Parameter tab at the bottom, under the "MIDI" Sub-tab.
You should see the different numbered tracks. You'll notice that some tracks say "01G or Gch" which is the channel that the MIDI keyboard is currently assigned to by default.
If you assign a new sound to a track and you want it to play, tell it to be triggered from channel 01 (or 01G or Gch)
That should tell the MIDI part of the Kronos to trigger the sound from Channel 01 which is what the physical keyboard part is doing.
Things like KARMA or external MIDI keyboards can trigger sounds on different channels which is why those channels all exist like that in the first place.
Give that a try!
Thank you!
Sandra Kennedy- They are called "Timbres". The term "Track" is reserved for sequencing mode. You have to make sure you have that Timber assigned to the global midi Channel, it has to be turned on, and the volume slider needs to be up. also if you are using an expression pedal make sure that it is all the way down.
I have a question. Can I have a combo where certain keys are also samples?
I’m going to try this technique but I’m still getting used to a lot of what the Kronos has to offer.
Absolutely! The idea is that you'd have a program with the sample you want. Then you bring it into the Combi and set the key range and pitch to whatever you want for triggering the sample. If you need effects, route them too but that's the idea!
@@AudoraAudio thanks Dave. So the possibility is that when I imported the sample and assigned my key I never saved that as a program. And that’s why I had to keep reloading the samples.
@@ShanesQueenSite Not quite. PCG files save programs, combis, global settings, etc. But samples are stored in a different part of memory entirely. You'd need to save the sample data once it's loaded as a KSC file, and have it autoload when you boot the Kronos up. (Global, KSC autoload) and autoload the _Userbank.KSC file to load the sample as read only. It keeps the file on the hard drive, but streams it when you play instead of loading the sample into RAM which is what happens when you load the file.KSC file.
@@AudoraAudio thanks so much. You have been so helpful. Thank you once more Dave.
Hi Dave, I have a SAVE issue. I wrote a song in sequence (Song 000),did 3 tracks there and saved that song. The NEXT DAY I copied from combi into 3 new songs (songs 001, 002 and 003) and also added tracks 4 and 5 to the original song (000). When I tried to save the 3 new songs (001, 002 and 003) and the original song with additional tracks, the only thing that saved was the original 3 tracks on (000) from the day before. What did I do wrong?
There could be a few things. Did you make sure you saved the SEQ and selected all songs? Did you turn off and on your Kronos at any point before saving? I'd need more information than what you've provided to tell you exactly what went wrong.
@@AudoraAudio I did a "save all" when the choice came up in the middle of the screen. I had to " save all" from the original (Song 000) but couldn't add the other songs(001-003). I didn't see a way to do that. i didn't do anything in the drop down in the upper right corner while trying to save. I didn't turn off the Kronos. I was trying to save to disk.
@@hatersofutube123 Can you reproduce the error? What OS version is your Kronos on? What happens when you go to Disk mode and "Save Sequence" instead of Save all?
Here's the path I took. In Disk:" Liberty Main Sequence" SNG; open; Liberty Main Sequence (24K), Liberty combi 1 (16K), Liberty 2 (15K), Liberty 3 (15K); open gets me to "tracks", load selected, nothing there. @@AudoraAudio
@@hatersofutube123 I think it's more the saving, not the loading that is the issue. It seems like the new sequences weren't saved correctly. What OS are you on? Can you reproduce the error when saving? What happens when you 'save sequence' instead of saving all? Are you able to make this happen again on purpose?
Como eu queria ouvir isso em português meu Deus me ajuda meu pai hahahaah
I made a huge mistake: I bought a Kronos LS last week & Uh-Oh - I DON'T have a degree in computer Science & I'm NOT an audio engineer! Yikes! I'm not an utter stranger to technology, reasonably decipherable modern keyboards, I have fair skills w/Pro Tools, etc. but I've been staring at the manual on & off for days & looking at tutorials like this &.. my head is spinning. Anybody else?
That definitely does happen - it takes time to wrap your head around things sometimes! I do give private lessons via Skype however, so feel free to reach out if you wanted to schedule. You can purchase time with me from my site on Audora.ca as well, otherwise check out other videos on my channel as well. If there's something I don't cover clearly, let me know and I'll try to get another video out there.
@@AudoraAudio Hey, Dave - Thanks for the quick response & for taking the time - you were in my SPAM & hence my slow response. It's frustrating knowing that once I learn the processes I'll wonder what I found so difficult, but I'm just spinning my wheels & wasting hours, even on things that should be simple like The SET LIST. I'll think I'm getting some traction & then ..UGH.. I just just have to walk away AGAIN after 2 hours of getting nowhere. I'll search more of your videos & then likely sign up for lessons. Thanks again! -
Some good information here. As far assigning Programs to Timbres goes- the (Combi) Page Menu Command "Copy From Program" simplifies the process, including assigning IFX & MFX. It does require that you redefine the Keyboard Zones for that Timbre as it resets to the default.
Yes, you are correct. I had posted on the Korg Kronos forum and someone gave me step by step and I realized that was the one thing I hadn't done...the copy from program. I don't think I ever would have figured it out because the manuals don't walk you through it in as detailed a way. I am in awe of the instrument but it is seems so complicated.
Sandra Kennedy yes it is a very complex workstation. if you have ever worked with Korg workstations before it makes it a little easier. otherwise be prepared for a rather steep learning curve.