Best Laptop for Programming: ULTIMATE GUIDE

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  • @JustJoshTech
    @JustJoshTech  9 місяців тому +19

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  • @haithamkhatib
    @haithamkhatib Рік тому +1139

    I am a non native English speaker and must say I can understand you perfectly 👍 no need to slowdown

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +142

      Very helpful to get your perspective. Thank you!

    • @wiljanolthof250
      @wiljanolthof250 Рік тому +11

      I agree

    • @hvasya
      @hvasya Рік тому +3

      +1

    • @PaulValickas
      @PaulValickas Рік тому +2

      There is no such thing as great laptop for coding.

    • @vali69
      @vali69 Рік тому +1

      The key to learning a language is input. The more you listen and the harder the material, the better. Keep at it dude.

  • @keenesaulcrescini8687
    @keenesaulcrescini8687 Рік тому +300

    Not a coder but Josh's reviews are the most practical and his criteria are the best ones for every day use for 100%!

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +10

      Thanks Keene

    • @truearmy1953
      @truearmy1953 10 місяців тому

      @@JustJoshTech when will you speak on the benefits of the dedicated navigation keys:- Home, End, PgUp, PgDn , for students and programmers. These keys makes the laptop more productive. I have to buy the 16" inch version of the Yoga Pro 9i only because the 14inch does not have the Column of the navigation keys(Home, End, PgUp, PgDn). You can use those keys navigation keys as dedicated on the 16inch variant when the numpad is off.

  • @Dylan-et2yz
    @Dylan-et2yz Рік тому +14

    Well done video. I appreciate that as a professional tool you don't try to recommend one model for everyone. Since text clarity is so important I think it's worth talking about screen resolution, DPI, and how macOS and Windows scale differently.
    I'll also take the larger screen if the tradeoff is only +1 pound and needing a bigger bag.

  • @soulfabuk
    @soulfabuk Рік тому +73

    Great video as always Josh. As a developer who is spending more time on a laptop, I would love for you to do a video on larger screen laptops as often, I struggle with insufficient screen space even on a 15 inch laptop but don't always want to connect to an external monitor.

    • @ed32568
      @ed32568 Рік тому +1

      Future data analyst here, same thing here! I've even made my windows and font sizes smaller due to lack of screen space, so my next laptop will definitely be 16+

    • @ShredzZ
      @ShredzZ Рік тому +1

      Im coding only on my laptop and using 14.2 inch M2 Pro, don't have any issues to be honest.

    • @gillybibbons1337
      @gillybibbons1337 Рік тому +5

      Maybe not a solution to your problem depending on what you are specifically referring too, but having a Mac with an iPad is absolutely amazing. The way these connect is a breeze and acts like device you can bring around anywhere to digest content and such, as well as being a perfect secondary screen. I typically put my laptop on a stand and then put my iPad on the keyboard of my laptop. With this, I use an external keyboard and mouse. 100% recommended.

    • @soulfabuk
      @soulfabuk Рік тому

      Just to clarify, I use a 15 inch Dell Precision and tend to have many windows open for Visual Studio, SSMS, browser, etc. During the day, I'm either connected to a 49" widescreen or a pair of 24" monitors so I have no issue with screen space.
      However, I often want to do additional work on an evening or even just play with new tech whilst relaxing on the sofa and this is when I just find a 15" screen means I'm swapping windows too often, so a 17" would offer some more space. I have tried a wireless connection to a 14" Galaxy tab and while this works well to extend the display, it just isn't practical on the sofa.
      Whilst I love the performance and overall quality of the MacBook 16, I'm a Windows guy at heart and find myself gravitating to the Dell XPS 17. Unfortunately, even the lazy 2023 refresh still causes disappointment with only a 720p webcam so I would like to know about other 17" laptops or workstations. Manufacturers like Lenovo and HP may have been an option in the past but they both seem to have dropped 17" screens and limit customers to 16" (which doesn't offer much more screen space than than my work 15"). I do like the thought of the Razer 18" but price and bad support reputation put me off. The Alienware m18 also gets some good reviews but its bulk and weight would likely crush my lap ;-)

    • @gillybibbons1337
      @gillybibbons1337 Рік тому

      @@soulfabuk have you tried to increase the resolution? I do this on my mac and then increase font size a tad, and this gives me more space to work with (i also do this on my tablet). This allows me to have a smaller more portable device with more space to work with.

  • @veracity-
    @veracity- Рік тому +69

    Please do a video on larger laptops (16 inch), I've been in the market for a laptop for strictly programming for school/work. Also I like the speed that you talk at. It's not too fast and you are clear and concise--something a lot of other tech reviewers could learn from, lol.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +9

      I think i will. There is tones of interest!

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +2

      I would personally wait until the Framework Laptop 16 is out. The screen specs were just revealed and they look EPIC!
      (Unfortunately, it has been delayed to summer 2023, meaning I'll have to limp along without Nvidia, which is a problem, but the alternative is wasting more money on an imperfect laptop I'll probably use for less than a year...)

    • @17arando
      @17arando Рік тому +2

      ​@@JustJoshTech Yeah, I think most coders have pretty set up home or office spaces they do the majority of their work in and having the main screen be large enough to be useful along side larger monitors is a huge QOL improvement. And it's still pretty portable when you are on the go.
      And if you're a gamer too or need a GPU, then going bigger is even more of a no brainer

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician Рік тому

      @@adamrawji Probably when the Framework 16 releases👀

  • @harrydang9
    @harrydang9 Рік тому +53

    I had gotten a Lenovo Legion Y530 when I went to college for computer science, and it worked well for all my four years. Albeit, one year was at home on my desktop due to Covid.
    Depending on what you're doing, I highly recommend getting 32 GB of RAM. If you're doing any Android development using an emulator or have WSL running, or both at the same time 16 GB would not be enough.
    Having dedicated arrow keys, Delete, Page Up/Down, Home and End keys are also really nice to have to jump around your code easily.
    The biggest gripe I had with my Legion gaming laptop was the weight and battery life. Having to lug that across campus and always looking for an outlet was really annoying. I chose it, because I thought I was going to be gaming quite a bit in the evening or on weekends, but I ended up just working on assignments, studying, or hanging out with friends so getting a gaming laptop was probably unnecessary

    • @lobotomizedjesse
      @lobotomizedjesse 5 місяців тому

      Did you get a new one if so which one? Or which one would you recommend?

    • @harrydang9
      @harrydang9 5 місяців тому +1

      @@lobotomizedjesse After graduating, I bought a 14" MacBook Pro (refurb M2 Pro, 12 core CPU) for work. Its been adequate, but I definitely do feel it struggling a little with the 16GB of memory

    • @lobotomizedjesse
      @lobotomizedjesse 5 місяців тому

      @harrydang9 oh thanks for reaching out. I'll gladly add it to my list. I'll try and find one with 32g ram

    • @Yuanshaohd7e7
      @Yuanshaohd7e7 2 місяці тому

      Why don't use battery saving mode and switch your GPU into IGP to save more power?

  • @7chiaster
    @7chiaster Рік тому +8

    Loved the video review but please also do a 16 inch review too! Some of us are willing to pay extra for the screen size while on the go too. A comparison battle between the 14 inch vs 16 inch would be a bonus!

  • @mayankarora7901
    @mayankarora7901 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome guide with practical advise. Thanks!

  • @toto3777
    @toto3777 Рік тому +60

    Heat through the keyboard and fan noise are indeed ignored by many other "reviewers" who just read the product description on the product page. This is absolutely why I like your reviews. And your speech isn't fast, the cadence is ideal and great, because I don't want to deal with double the time to convey the right amount of information. She might be used to older gen content.

  • @nadavge
    @nadavge Рік тому +12

    I think most of your crowd tends to go for a minimum of x1.25 speed by default. I do appreciate the amount of detail.
    Btw, you had a very high reverb/echo in the Framework laptop overview. It feels a bit better now, but I think if you could make changes to the setup or add a bit more filtering a crisper sound will make sound nicer and easier to understand.
    Thanks for posting :)

  • @TJ-hs1qm
    @TJ-hs1qm 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Josh. You are the only one who understands and addresses the needs of professional programmers.

  • @LoftOfTheUniverse
    @LoftOfTheUniverse Рік тому

    Looking forward to that next video! Thank you!

  • @sarthak-ti
    @sarthak-ti Рік тому +282

    I’d love to see a 16 inch version as well, just because those tend to strike a better balance between performance and portability in my opinion. Also many amazing laptops are only available in one size
    But thank you for the video! And I applaud your dedication to trying out every laptop before you fully recommend it

    • @narutokunn
      @narutokunn 10 місяців тому +3

      Yup came here to say this too.

    • @daghetto101
      @daghetto101 9 місяців тому +1

      The weight of 16 inch and 14 inch laptops are night and day....

    • @sarthak-ti
      @sarthak-ti 9 місяців тому +2

      @@daghetto101 I never claimed otherwise, but I personally prefer a 16 inch laptop even if it’s less portable

    • @Jassa3
      @Jassa3 8 місяців тому

      @@daghetto101not really

  • @manfredriemer236
    @manfredriemer236 Рік тому

    Hi Josh, I would be very interested in a 16" programming laptop review. These days with the thin bezels, they are smaller than the 15.6" laptops of a few years ago. About the speed of your speech, it's one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel because you convey your excellent information efficiently. Keep up the great work!

  • @LeeAnnC
    @LeeAnnC Рік тому

    I'm just starting a software dev career and I'm excited to see your upcoming review! You just got one new subscriber 😊

  • @STORMFIRE07
    @STORMFIRE07 Рік тому +9

    Yes josh, I would love to see your recommendations for larger sized laptops aswell!

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro 11 місяців тому +12

    I really like how you simplify so many complex things, truly a hallmark of someone experienced. For example, the amount of code on screen being directly proportional to how much stuff you fit in your head is something I wish I had learned 10 years ago, in uni, instead of only some years ago.

  • @lolSnowball
    @lolSnowball Рік тому

    Wow! Looking forward to your reviews! Epic work!

  • @hachre
    @hachre 11 місяців тому

    I think your speech is at a perfect speed!!! In fact I think many others on UA-cam speak too slowly or digress too much and this is something that sets you apart!

  • @wiljanolthof250
    @wiljanolthof250 Рік тому +3

    I would love to see a list with your reccomendations for laptops with a bigger screen! Keep up the good work.

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +4

    I would say the most important factors for a programming laptop are the screen, the battery life, and the keyboard. A dGPU is also good if you do game programming.
    Avoid 16 : 9 screens (go for 16 : 10 or 3 : 2 preferably), and put a high amount of focus in the keyboard. The last thing you want is hating to type on your own laptop you just paid your hard earned money. The touchpad is honestly not a big deal comparably as good mice are much better than any touchpad and aren't too expensive.
    And don't get a laptop that can't do light tasks for less than 5 hours of battery life!
    Finally, while Linux _can_ be run on Apple Silicon Macs, Asahi Linux just isn't ready yet for most users. If you even think you'll hate macOS or even need Linux, then don't even think about a Mac for the moment.
    If you prefer Linux, try waiting for the Framework Laptop 13 or 16, or wait for a System76 laptop to come with a 16 : 10 screen (that will happen in a few months, I'm sure of it) unless you need something immediately, then you may bs SOOL unless you can either wait or buy a Windows laptop and put Linux on it.
    For me, the Framework Laptop 16 (with its seemingly amazing 16 : 10 screen revealed yesterday) is perfect. In the meantime, I'm going to limp along without Nvidia...

  • @tiendungpham1056
    @tiendungpham1056 8 місяців тому

    Love the video Josh! Keep up the good work!

  • @rishabh4082
    @rishabh4082 Рік тому

    Thank you for a clear , concise and precise video!❤

  • @SuperFighter94
    @SuperFighter94 Рік тому +15

    One thing to think about as well is there are plenty of good options for ex-lease machines, Elitebook 840 G5,6,7 and Thinkpad L14, T14 and P14 machines of different generations can be found on a budget and have great build quality and still have life in them due to being upgradable.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! People are sleeping on ThinkPad T14 laptops. The ease of compatibility with Linux and upgradable RAM & SSD makes it a must for programmers. At my job, most programmers are using these as their laptops. They are encouraged to use WSL and VS if they work in the office. My favorite is Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3. Great build quality, great keyboards, and runs WSL flawlessly. Only issue is battery life is...meh.
      Only front-end developers are using MacBooks.

    • @lancemarchetti8673
      @lancemarchetti8673 6 місяців тому

      I doubt whether the T14 will manage to run a 30GB LLM like Mixtral

  • @waqqasiqbal6831
    @waqqasiqbal6831 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are very informative. I was just looking for a reliable video for the best laptop for programmers!

  • @panosnord9978
    @panosnord9978 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Please make an additional video on 16" laptops

  • @alawiSahel
    @alawiSahel Рік тому +6

    Can you believe that in all of youtube there is nothing about this topic in such high quality and thoughtful content. Thank you.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому

      Thank you! Please share with friends and co-workers!

  • @nategraham4027
    @nategraham4027 Рік тому +19

    Excellent video. I've been using a ThinkPad X1 Yoga for the past 3 years and can echo the sentiments that it's an excellent choice. Perfect on Linux too; currently rocking Fedora KDE. I'd also like to warn about Dell XPS laptops in general. A number of colleagues have used them over the years and run into lots of trouble: physical breakage, not enough ports, poor performance, and weird hardware options that make no sense you have to know to avoid. I'd stay away.

    • @santoshpatelpilli1190
      @santoshpatelpilli1190 7 місяців тому

      Hi What about , HP SPECTRE x360? does it handle all the load ?

    • @nategraham4027
      @nategraham4027 7 місяців тому

      @@santoshpatelpilli1190 I don't know much about newer Spectres, but I had one before the X1 Yoga. It was nice, but over the course of 3 years, its screen backlight and trackpad both broke. I think the Spectre machines focus so much on looks that they aren't physically built tough enough. Meanwhile my X1 is still going strong, nothing broken.

  • @EmL-kg5gn
    @EmL-kg5gn 4 місяці тому

    Tysm for this!!! The first video I saw on this topic was for students and it wasn’t good. When a commenter pointed out that the recommendations weren’t budget friendly the youtuber just said that not all students are broke… which is pretty insensitive and ignorant. So it was nice to see this next and especially to hear you say that people can make a start with whatever they have!
    Thank you for taking the time to list what features are important and why as well as providing a list. That’s super helpful. Also it’s sweet that your mum watches your videos and I appreciate you trying to improve accessibility 💕

  • @user-cx9ul5lk5g
    @user-cx9ul5lk5g 11 місяців тому +1

    I thought the X1 Carbon would be good for me, I'll take your word for it Josh.
    Really enjoyed the video, professional and clear, subscribed

  • @mrperfectcell1350
    @mrperfectcell1350 Рік тому +45

    For the past 6 months, I've been looking into buying a laptop and figuring a lot of stuff out. Josh is easily one of the better reviewers I've come across since he actually explains how things are going to affect you instead of just listing the specs or something which I could've literally found out by reading it on any website myself. I really appreciate the spreadsheet too btw. Like A LOT. And thank you sooooooo much for including the warning part, those make life a lot easier. And also, macbooks seem to have pretty decent pricing these days but they make you pay a lot more if you want higher ram and storage and they don't let you upgrade those later on, so that's something to consider as well.

    • @Baka100
      @Baka100 Рік тому

      Which one did you buy ?

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ Рік тому

      @@Baka100 always apple because of logo 🤣🤣😂😂
      just joking

    • @Elle-nv8gg
      @Elle-nv8gg 3 місяці тому

      Which one did you buy please help I need one for Python and sql

  • @shantanurahut4005
    @shantanurahut4005 Рік тому +142

    As a ML engineer and a student I would like to add that, with current developments in AI and ML related fields, your laptop GPU won't usually suffice. So if you do not game, don't buy laptop with dedicated GPU and save money. Your office and your university usually will provide you with GPU cluster or powerful CPU servers for your work / study projects. And always focus on the possibility of having as much RAM as possible just like Josh mentioned.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +12

      Good comment. Thank you

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ Рік тому +4

      still not going to buy apple product because I care about raw power not battery 😄😄😁😁

    • @srinidhibs5460
      @srinidhibs5460 Рік тому +2

      So what laptops are preferred for AI and ML related field.... Will Mac be fine?

    • @shantanurahut4005
      @shantanurahut4005 Рік тому +3

      @@srinidhibs5460 any laptop is fine if you don't want dGPU in your laptop. You can use colab or kaggle if your University for any reason does not provide you with GPU cluster access.
      Try to get one which is portable, has a good screen (and bigger screen) and a good keyboard. Try to find something cheap (probably look into used laptops) if you are a student and save money.
      You don't need a Mac unless you really want to have one.

    • @-Blue-_
      @-Blue-_ Рік тому

      @@srinidhibs5460 no for ML windows laptops are good ther are very powerful compare to MacBook and also you can install Linux on it only drawback is battery but you are getting raw power and ML need high end CPU and GPU mainly GPU for ML, buy a dedicated GPU laptop with 16 to 32 gig of Ram also also the the pro features of microsoft office is only for windows not macOS for good keyboard go for ThinkPad series

  • @TommyDrone
    @TommyDrone 8 місяців тому

    This was awesome. Thank you very much. A+ course assignment has me recommending best options in a project assignment this helped me a lot.

  • @patricecomedy
    @patricecomedy 11 місяців тому

    Bro THANK YOU! Great job. I'm not a developer but I do work in cyber security so pretty similar workflow and preferences.

  • @feline248
    @feline248 Рік тому +9

    I prefer 15+ inches for programming. I just got a M2 16" for personal use, and work just gave me a M2 16" too. Love the machine for development. I think it is important to be able to dock it, also. Using it on the go is great, but when I get home or to the office, I need it to plug into bigger screens, decent keyboards, and a good mouse. M2 + 2 displays + mechanical keyboard + mx master mouse is a must for me when I need to really do some serious work.

    • @Kiev-en-3-jours
      @Kiev-en-3-jours Рік тому +4

      BS. You can do serious work on almost any laptop. Even 12.5 inches 10 y.o Thinkpads.

  • @mrperfectcell1350
    @mrperfectcell1350 Рік тому +4

    Holy cow the follow up video is gonna go crazy though. If I was your mother, I would be very proud.

  • @vmwarereporting6278
    @vmwarereporting6278 Рік тому

    amazing video , I just sub for u now cuz of the quality of your videos ! awesome ! keep up the good work.

  • @user-uq1kn7ol4w
    @user-uq1kn7ol4w Рік тому

    Great work! Thank you Josh!

  • @LONELY-x9k
    @LONELY-x9k Рік тому +13

    I just went on your channel to search for laptop and you uploaded at that very moment 🤣 what a coincidence. Thanks for your videos man

    • @LONELY-x9k
      @LONELY-x9k Рік тому +2

      Funny thing is I'm also a student of Data science and Ai so this video is basicly made for me 🫡

  • @JimKanaris
    @JimKanaris Рік тому +3

    Thanks Josh! All your videos are very informative! Currently, I'm loving my Dell XPS 15 (9530), which didn't receive a rave review from you. In fact, I have the model that you'd rate an unfortunate mistake (i9 with FHD!). In any case, I was quite surprised by the device since I own a 16" M1 Pro, which I of course love! I've been gaming and doing some content creation on it. I'm not sure what it is but, being an unhappy XPS owner in the past, this particular model and configuration is blowing me away. It works flawlessly (for now), which is saying a lot. I know Dell isn't hugely popular with the tech community right now, but, as a tech-savvy individual, I'm not experiencing any buyer's remorse, which is all one can really ask for these days. Cheers! And keep up the great work! 🙏

    • @mayureshs80
      @mayureshs80 Рік тому

      What specs did you get?

    • @megamastah
      @megamastah Рік тому

      Similar story here. Dell XPS 13 9310 working perfectly with Ubuntu, while Mac Pro 13 M1 and MacOS was a... misunderstanding.

    • @JimKanaris
      @JimKanaris Рік тому +1

      @@mayureshs80 13th gen i9, RTX 4070, 512SSD, 32G DDR5, FHD.

    • @mayureshs80
      @mayureshs80 Рік тому

      @@JimKanaris No fan issues when doing normal task web browsing and spreadsheets?

    • @JimKanaris
      @JimKanaris Рік тому +1

      @@mayureshs80 You can hear them when underload but nothing crazy. It's a pretty quiet machine. So far I'm really impressed. I used to own a 7590 (OLED) and 9500 (UHD). I had serious issues with those.

  • @mauririvera8391
    @mauririvera8391 Рік тому

    Thanks man, really waiting for the next video

  • @cbbcbb6803
    @cbbcbb6803 Рік тому +1

    Great video.
    Running virtual machine is a good way to get practice with several different operating systems. I use VirtualBox, but there are other ones that work very well.

  • @sjdlove
    @sjdlove Рік тому +16

    As software developer for 10 plus years. I decided last year to go with the the 16gb i7, Surface Pro 9.. It has enough power for what I need to get done. Also for me, it fits the sweet spot when it comes to portability for when I am on the go. Also when I am at home, I plug it into my wide screen monitor. The audio quality is pretty great as well, so its good for watching videos..

    • @msx94
      @msx94 10 місяців тому

      In which language you are coding if I am allowed to ask because 16 GB might be very Limited

    • @sjdlove
      @sjdlove 10 місяців тому +1

      @@msx94 Yeah no worries. Currently I am using both Java and Flutter. Also I would never tell you not to get more memory. You get what fits your needs. For me, 16gb fits my needs.

    • @ProGamER__801
      @ProGamER__801 3 місяці тому

      Hey sir i just started programming journey i wish if you could help me with that ?🤟​@@sjdlove

  • @chitalvision
    @chitalvision Рік тому +7

    16inch laptop FTW! I prefer large format devices because for me the tradeoff between lugging it around and the performance gains is well worth it. Waiting for your recommendation video on 15inch or larger programming laptops!

  • @tc1492
    @tc1492 Рік тому

    Thanks Josh great video! I have been coding for years and unfortunately farsighted so things can be blurry. 16” is what I will be buying nexts to make it easier to see.

  • @systemnotes
    @systemnotes Рік тому

    Thanks for the list. I had been looking at upgrading to something like a new HP Elitebook, but the new ones at the time did not have an “Insert” key, and the RAM was was soldered to the main board, so not upgradable. Instead of buying one, I upgraded the RAM and HD. Now it looks like they finally added the “Ins” key at least on some models, so time to take another look. You mentioned noise and heat can be uncomfortable, but also note that sharp edges can dig into the wrists. Dell and Lenovo can have that sharp front edge which you may not notice at first, until you get sore wrists after sitting in certain positions.

    • @WatchBuddy-fr6ww
      @WatchBuddy-fr6ww 3 місяці тому +1

      Whrere is the list?
      I don't found it on the description.

  • @danwah
    @danwah Рік тому +6

    I can vouch for the 14" M1 over the Air. I have both and the 14 wins on screen size, resolution and quality, including ports and performance, can pick the M1s up for a decent price now too! Must stress just how nice the high resolution displays are!

    • @tarkgundogdu8940
      @tarkgundogdu8940 10 місяців тому +1

      it has glossy screen. I think it is better to have a matte screen.

    • @narutokunn
      @narutokunn 10 місяців тому

      ​@@tarkgundogdu8940 Hey! Thanks for recommendation. May I ask if you have programming in your daily use case? I am not able to convince myself that 14in will be good enough for vscode, but I have never tried anything below 15.6in.
      A monitor is not always on option since I am away from my setup for 1-2 weeks in a month.

  • @MyronZhao
    @MyronZhao Рік тому +7

    Hey Josh, great video! By the way, while I think battery capacity is a good spec to list, another thing to point out is the efficiency and how long it would roughly last during certain tasks. Since Apple's silicons run laps around anything else. But since you mentioned you will test all the laptops, this would be a great stat for viewers to know about :)

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +1

      I agree. This one I need to do in a dedicated video or individual reviews

  • @lloydfernandes119
    @lloydfernandes119 Рік тому

    Thanks Josh! This is exactly what i was looking for

  • @renanrosa5527
    @renanrosa5527 10 місяців тому

    Very thoroughly reviewed. Thanks !

  • @unclechaelsneckvein
    @unclechaelsneckvein Рік тому +3

    My big thing is it having a centered trackpad. If it's shifted to the left you can't use it on your lap. The reason I buy laptops is to carry them around and not have to sit at a desk, and a centered keyboard is essential for that.

  • @lightningbaron13
    @lightningbaron13 Рік тому +59

    With the price of RAM and SSD storage being near "rock bottom"; Apple is hard to sell to me, they charge a kidney for upgrades and not really serviceable. I stick with HP, Lenovo and Dell as they usually have a hardware maintenance and service manual. Josh, great video and insightful as always.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 Рік тому +7

      Lenovo and Dell laptops are nice. The battery life isn't as good as Macbooks, but modern ones are still good enough to get 4 hours of intense work and video before needing to be charged. 8-12 hours of light work without videos watched.

    • @kalensus
      @kalensus Рік тому

      Problem is if you want to use xCode, Apple have got you by the gonads.

    • @romesh1832
      @romesh1832 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@akin242002what about hp battery life?
      I have used hp laptop recently and I was satisfied with its battery life.. but now I am thinking to switch to Dell, is it good to go with Dell or i stick to hp💀

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 11 місяців тому

      @@romesh1832 It depends more on the CPU. Intel or Ryzen "U" series CPUs get good battery life beyond 4 hours. Battery life decreases once you start using more performance focused P/H/K series CPUs.

    • @GrieferStudios
      @GrieferStudios 10 місяців тому +4

      My windows laptop got bricked by an update. I agree with you as a pc only person I love the options and deals on those but I just despise Microsoft so much at this point that I'd rather bite the bullet on the mac

  • @MeGigantorzMon
    @MeGigantorzMon Рік тому +5

    The ideal laptop for me as a computer engineering student would usually be a Thinkpad as I am rocking a Thinkpad right now, but if I were to buy a new one the ideal one for me would be the unreleased Framework 16. It is fully upgradeable and repairable and has chance for an external battery on the expansion bay. I am searching for a laptop that can outclass the macbook pro 16 and I think the Framework 16 with ryzen 7 and extended battery can go toe to toe with it.

    • @qs_ma8017
      @qs_ma8017 10 місяців тому +1

      Is asus zenbook 14 with ryzen 7 a good choice for computer engineering?

    • @MeGigantorzMon
      @MeGigantorzMon 10 місяців тому

      oh yeah more than enough. make sure have 16gb or more of ram and an ipad air or just a wacom tablet to write all the math equations and ure set.@@qs_ma8017

    • @stefanbayley3113
      @stefanbayley3113 7 місяців тому

      Hey bud, what are the specs on your ThinkPad? I want to get one too.

  • @adpartum
    @adpartum 11 місяців тому

    The list is soo good!!! Helped me a lot! Thank u!

  • @chengxiaoshi3461
    @chengxiaoshi3461 Рік тому

    Love your the speed of ur speech. Quick efficient and quality information interluded with a bit of your personality for the very best experience

  • @m4sterred853
    @m4sterred853 Рік тому +15

    With my current experience as a CS student, I’d completely avoid the M series MacBook. Many courses make use of virtual machines that are only made for X86-64 architectures. Sure, professors may eventually commission people to make new VM configs for the new MacBooks, but some are just completely against that.

    • @mucahitkral8951
      @mucahitkral8951 9 місяців тому

      What you think about m2 air 16? Is that good for software

    • @tttyyy949
      @tttyyy949 7 місяців тому

      ​@@mucahitkral8951since m2 air 16 doesnt exist it isnt goos foe software.

    • @Elle-nv8gg
      @Elle-nv8gg 3 місяці тому

      Which one to go for then? Please help

    • @m4sterred853
      @m4sterred853 3 місяці тому

      @@Elle-nv8gg I’m not completely up to date with the laptop market, but I’ll tell you my criteria.
      Other than what Josh mentioned in the video, I’d consider a machine that has great compatibility with Linux and uses an Intel or AMD CPU. I don’t know if you’ll jump straight into Linux, but if you do, I’d look at a laptop from brands like Tuxedo, System76 or Slimbook.
      For the big OEMs, I’d look at Lenovo or ASUS’ latest models. The brands that offer the best compatibility on all models are Lenovo and Dell, but Dell’s latest models are a real shame.
      For more details on compatibility of individual laptops, you can go on the Arch Wiki and look at the articles for each laptop brand.
      For a specific model to look for, I’d say Lenovo Thinkpad T14.

  • @engifaarliu9732
    @engifaarliu9732 Рік тому +9

    I code on a few thinkpad X1 Carbons. Solid battery life, display and powerful enough for what i'm doing. It has support for Debian Linux. I would highly recommend a new programmer to pick up a refurbished model if they are on a budget. Intel 8th to 10th CPUs doesn't make much of a difference. But if some level of graphics is required, intel 11th and 12th gen would be more than enough with the Xe IGP.

    • @neilduffy334
      @neilduffy334 Рік тому +1

      Except for the new x1c, with OLED.... awful touchpad support, no webcam support... x13 on the other hand, great

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 Рік тому +1

      ​@@neilduffy334 The touchpad was bad for the X1C 9, and the webcam was sub par at 720p and 60hz refresh rate. However, that has changed for the X1C 10. Better touchpad, and 1080p webcam. Add on Intel's12th gen P series CPU.
      Only remaining issue is heat when the workload gets CPU intense. Still great for scripting languages like Python, R, Ruby, or Lua. I'd recommend the ThinkPad T series for intense programming work. C, C++, Rust, Java, C# or Go.

    • @neilduffy334
      @neilduffy334 Рік тому

      @@akin242002 I recently had the x13 gen 3 & the x1 carbon gen 10 oled. The screen on the x1c was great, but everything else was poor. The glass touchpad gained an oil stain / fingerprint mark I could not remove (x13 mylar was no issue), and the sensitivity was poor compared to x13.

    • @engifaarliu9732
      @engifaarliu9732 Рік тому

      @@neilduffy334 I was issued the x1c10 without OLED. No issues from me.

  • @nasirusanigaladima
    @nasirusanigaladima Рік тому

    Great video,i made a comment on your suggestion channel on discord about the best laptop for web development, android and Windows and deep learning/machine learning.I will appreciate it if you can do a video on that especially on the deep learning aspect, seeing how fast models train on a particular laptop and also the general comfort of using a laptop like that.

  • @fluna29
    @fluna29 2 місяці тому +2

    You explain all in a very easy way and the most important thing, is that you are saying facts about every laptop and not recommending only the most expensive. Like and suscribe, greetings from Spain 😉

  • @wlcrutch
    @wlcrutch Рік тому +29

    Josh, something that would be helpful with this specific topic: linux compatibility. The program I am studying requires Unix, so that that’s either Macos or linux. Given the high prices for macbooks, it would be nice to know how well these pcs you recommend function under a linux. 😊

    • @MelroyvandenBerg
      @MelroyvandenBerg Рік тому +3

      Yea very important! Try to avoid dual gpus like Intel gpu + Nvidia. Avoid that, just buy a amd processor with integrated gpu (ryzen). Without a dedicated gpu. Linux will thank you!

    • @deloller2452
      @deloller2452 Рік тому

      @@MelroyvandenBerg you can disable nvidia gpu and use the integrated one

    • @kuntrasha
      @kuntrasha Рік тому

      been using linux mint for 2 or 3 years now and love it. It's a shame it doesn't even get mentioned in a lot of videos like this

    • @hailstorm7868
      @hailstorm7868 8 місяців тому

      Late comment, but wsl exists

  • @PD3666
    @PD3666 Рік тому +3

    I was really looking forward to buying a Dell XPS 17. I would really like to know which criteria it did not meet to make it to your list. It has a 17inch 16:10 4K display, upgradable, vapor chamber cooling, great keyboard and trackpad and a decent battery.

  • @RegularEverydayNormalGuy
    @RegularEverydayNormalGuy Рік тому +1

    What amazing timing, I'm atually shopping for a new laptop this weekend haha

  • @rcn7194
    @rcn7194 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video.
    I would appreciate a video about the comparison of 16'' Laptops.

  • @SqueamishKeemish
    @SqueamishKeemish Рік тому +3

    The used market for ThinkPads is also a good place to look depending on how tight your budget is. I just got a T480 with an 8th Gen i5, 16GB of RAM , a 1080p screen and a 512GB SSD for $140. It didn’t come with a charger but that’s okay because it charges via USB C.

    • @mohammadelnayef
      @mohammadelnayef Рік тому

      The screen quality on that laptop is horrible tho. Had one and sold it.

    • @mikaelahyakuya3485
      @mikaelahyakuya3485 Рік тому

      @@mohammadelnayef You actually can upgrade them

  • @RedBeardedRabbit
    @RedBeardedRabbit Рік тому +3

    Developer for 13 years here:
    I've been forced to use 14 inch or smaller laptops my entire career. How many professional programmers even get a choice? Usually there's a standard issue corporate model and that's it - I've had to put extra effort at multiple orgs just to get them to give me more than 8GB of RAM!

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +2

      Yeah thay sucks when it happens. Especially if it's a bad screen

  • @VoicuMatei
    @VoicuMatei Рік тому +1

    You are not speaking to fast. It’s just perfect like this. The videos are very specific, the info ia to the point, that is exactly what I am looking for in this segment :)

  • @sirainsworth2360
    @sirainsworth2360 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Josh! This is exactly the video that I needed. Appreciate all your effort!
    What are your thoughts on the hp dragonfly elite g3? I can get a nearly new one for 1050. It has an i7, 3:2 aspect ratio and exceptional build quality. Or would you rather recommend a x1 carbon or g14 for roughly the same $ (I have no specific need for a dedicated gpu)
    Thank you.

  • @doufmech4323
    @doufmech4323 Рік тому +62

    I would really avoid apple's M1 and M2 for coding. There are so many issues when coding, especially with multithreading. A lot of my fellow students have been unable to get some of their to work on a M1/M2 done. One course in particular, assigned us (for the exam) to make a matrix library for C, and importantly benchmark and evaluate multithreaded vs singlethreaded code. Unfortunately for the Macbook users, no one was able to parallelize their code. This obviously affected their grade.

    • @m4sterred853
      @m4sterred853 Рік тому +10

      I think it’s also a correction method issue. For these kinds of things, all my professors told their students to do the benchmarks on their own, but also that results are validated at correction in a controlled environment (a Linux virtual machine). That would be very easy to get a grade revision for this.

    • @petkogeorgiev2103
      @petkogeorgiev2103 Рік тому +3

      Any explanation on why they couldn't parallelize their code? I haven't used an M1/M2 Macbook, but I don't see any reasons why you'd have any issues writing multithreaded software on them. I've written multithreaded programs for university using C and OpenMP and was able to build and run them with no issues on a desktop, ARM phone and RPI

    • @giovannifm
      @giovannifm Рік тому +8

      Work gave us Macbooks, first time I've ever used a Mac, and I've been using it for multithreading and have not encountered any issues whatsoever with coding. In fact, this little machine has pretty much blown my mind as far as filling all the boxes for me. I'm a newer mac user but pleasantly been a fan of these new silicon chips.

    • @clementadebiyi
      @clementadebiyi Рік тому

      Which Apple MacBook would you recommend then?

    • @SamuelMukoti
      @SamuelMukoti 11 місяців тому

      Any of the MacBook Pro would be a great development machine with 32 GB RAM and 512 SSD minimum

  • @meistrimeez
    @meistrimeez Рік тому +5

    I drive a ThinkPad z13 as a linux c++ developer. Linux support is really important to me and the z13 delivers on that front. The only thing that bothers me is the size. I really wish that Lenovo had made a 14inch version and added PgUp, PgDn, Home, End keys to the side for the extra space

  • @AktivacnyPracovnik
    @AktivacnyPracovnik Рік тому

    Great overview. You deserved a subscription, sir.

  • @nightwing369
    @nightwing369 Рік тому

    Fantastic video! Thanks!

  • @bob890119
    @bob890119 Рік тому +4

    I use an M2 Air (upgraded naturally) as a Java developer myself. I agree with you that the 14" M2 Pro is just better, but the Air gets the job done as well. I'm quite happy with the Air as a work machine.
    I'm curious if there is a particular factor or factors that cause you to not recommend it at all?

    • @mustafauludogann
      @mustafauludogann Рік тому

      Hi what do you think about m1 air? I am just starting learning coding I am thinking of buying one Is it cheaper do you suggest m1 air?

    • @Kiev-en-3-jours
      @Kiev-en-3-jours Рік тому

      @@mustafauludogann Second hand T480 with Linux.

  • @bjornbarthusel6433
    @bjornbarthusel6433 Рік тому +3

    I think you must take 15" laptops into account if you want to be fair and avoid missing some top options. Just because apple denies to deliver 15" is not a valid reason for self-imposed restrictions. Many people recommend the Dell XPS 15.

  • @crappycoder
    @crappycoder Рік тому

    List is very sound, good job josh! I'm currently rocking a G14 myself, very handy and useful, tho I only 1650 5800H one due to budget constraints. 16-32GB is a godsend.

  • @aiashla53005
    @aiashla53005 Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @Biliogadafr
    @Biliogadafr Рік тому +6

    After coding for some time on a 14" screen I decided that I need a 17" laptop at minimum... and an external monitor :) This is my setup right now and it works perfectly for my needs. Luckily I don't have to travel with this thing often :)

    • @ascar66
      @ascar66 Рік тому

      I user 14 inch laptop with 27 inch external monitor it seems to me good combination.

  • @kielvostro
    @kielvostro Рік тому +4

    I thought AI apologists said that coding is dead and ChatGPT will do everything for them? Companies will no longer have employees because the CEO can do everything because of ChatGPT 🤣

  • @emmanuelharbor2350
    @emmanuelharbor2350 Рік тому +1

    Josh, thanks for this tutorial on programming laptops.

  • @sjewkes1
    @sjewkes1 Рік тому +1

    Great video coverage as usual, and nice to see I'm not the only power-user making spreadsheets for literally everything. I did programming for my degree on a 15" MSI gaming laptop that lasted me nearly 6 years of constant abuse, including using a WD external drive to game from (which still works after 8 years) and a foldable bed table since I didn't have a desk for most of that time.
    I'd also love to see a second video/spreadsheet on 15-16" machines, for those that want better screen real estate and better hardware (that the chassis can actually keep cool) without the bulk of 17-18". It's a shame we don't have AMD in more machines still, since they are kicking the crap out of Intel even on the mobile processors, but maybe one day.

    • @YunaniXVI
      @YunaniXVI Рік тому

      should i choose Ryzen 5 7640HS or i5 13420H?

    • @sjewkes1
      @sjewkes1 Рік тому +1

      @@YunaniXVI It really depends on your use case. If you're doing something that will take advantage of the extra cores and threads, the i5 is the clear choice. However, the Ryzen is going to have a higher base clock, with better power and thermal efficiency for longer battery life, and arguably better integrated graphics, all of which are beneficial for laptops.

    • @YunaniXVI
      @YunaniXVI Рік тому

      @@sjewkes1 thank you

  • @gamerswarehousez
    @gamerswarehousez 3 місяці тому +7

    This guy is saying everything as it is and it is true, most youtubest just praise MAcboks but me having used both Macbook M1 and Windows Acer, Asus, Hp, Everything even Gigabyte Aero, still windows is much more convenient to Learn Coding. But for Working Macbook is better. So while you are a student get yourself Hp Probook they have great keyboard or Acer Aspire, Acer Swift, Amd is preferable as less heat less fan noise, generally AMD always has more Ram More SSD and more battery life so go for AMD folks

    • @jl1d_5
      @jl1d_5 Місяць тому

      Hi, i’m a pharmacist student (3rd year), and shift to CS because i want to follow my passion. Your comment is very helpful, since i have no clue more about computer or what should i target. Right now i’m clueless but i’m passionate about learning CS.

    • @smgjreinieren
      @smgjreinieren 23 дні тому

      Why is macbook better for working?

  • @chrispotterfan
    @chrispotterfan Рік тому +1

    best youtube channel for deciding what laptop you should buy! great videos, enjoy every single one if it.

  • @madm.d.e129
    @madm.d.e129 10 місяців тому

    I really appreciate the amount of detailed information you provided in this video. Amazing Work.

  • @ntc490
    @ntc490 Рік тому

    Interested to see your reviews. Don't slow down. I always watch UA-cam videos faster than normal. You seem only slightly quicker than average. I liked the energy of this video.

  • @knorkeFutzi
    @knorkeFutzi Рік тому +1

    Great video, many thanks!
    I still have one wish, maybe you can say something about it:
    In times of home office work, we do a lot pair programming via Microsoft Teams (using screen sharing).
    With my current device, this causes very high workload. Operations in VSCode then suddenly take x times as long.
    So from my personal point of view, this is quite an important criteria when looking for a new laptop.
    Unfortunately, I am not sure what I would have to look out for in order to have better performance for a new device.
    (you speaking speed is very good)

  • @grizz588
    @grizz588 Рік тому +1

    I have been looking at many different laptops because I'm about to graduate high school, and I love your review videos. I was just wondering if you could maybe look into the Huawei Matebooks? Other reviews all say it's amazing (except for the 16s and X Pro for their weird keyboard camera) and I'm actually planning on getting the 14s, but I would love to see a review from you about it. Thank you 🙏

  • @brokecsstudent
    @brokecsstudent Рік тому +2

    My dad and I are looking into the Zephyrus G14 for my college. I bet this is gonna be a game changer in school. If budget is really a big matter, maybe I will shift towards the Strix G16 or the Helios Neos 16.

  • @yesyas5972
    @yesyas5972 Рік тому

    Thanks for your video. I didn't think about commodity, temperature, etc...Thnk for that

  • @mithrillis
    @mithrillis Рік тому

    I was looking for a 6800U laptop last year but local stores were slow to stock so I ended up getting a ROG Flow X13 (6800HS) without discrete graphics. Very overlooked productivity laptop from a gaming brand. The screen is a bit small, but it's very crisp (thanks for no matte!) and it's 120Hz so it will make scrolling feel better. The keyboard is no Thinkpad but does the job well. You get touchscreen, a pen, and you can fold the device to tablet mode. You can even run most games reasonably well with just onboard graphics. Also no aggressive gamer aesthetics that usually comes with ASUS ROG. Overall a very versatile device with a very capable processor. Hopefully they keep on with the quality with future refreshes.

  • @djbolodocaco775
    @djbolodocaco775 10 місяців тому

    never seen a more entertaining and well presented video on a topic i find quite boring, sub, like and notifications on for sure, Thank you for the great video

  • @kuntrasha
    @kuntrasha Рік тому

    yeh this is epic. I have been clicking around on and off for the last couple of weeks tossing up what to get which would make programming comfortable. You've just done it for me. I would perhaps like some options with larger screen sizes as I find i am often running the screen with 50% pycharm and 50% browser so large screen is beneficial. As well as fan noise. Nothing annoys me more than fan noise. Would be nice if you could mention linux in your videos as well. I think I will wait for your followup video as the thinkpads keyboards and trackpads look pretty dismal in your review

  • @nizambao4653
    @nizambao4653 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video y'all.

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 Рік тому

    Oooh JR here! i just got my first job ever :) it's at a startup. I am very happy and they are very happy with me!
    i wonder what you do now (if you're comfortable sharing) youtube full time?
    I usually always code on a chair and desk setup, so I usually never use the laptop's built in display for anything but slack/discord/chrome on the side. but I love displays so much for personal use!
    we have codes for both mac and win which is why i'm so confused on which one to pick.

  • @Ndlela-Yami
    @Ndlela-Yami Рік тому

    You speak really well. It's easy listening and following you❤

  • @quantumvijay3720
    @quantumvijay3720 7 місяців тому

    excellent video, thank you

  • @davidjeremiahmalazarte7572
    @davidjeremiahmalazarte7572 Рік тому

    Nice video.
    Nice recommendations.
    You are not talking too fast. I like just the way it is.
    Concise 💯 I think this is the word I am looking for 😅
    Many thanks 🙏🏻 just started coding.

  • @ejdo1276
    @ejdo1276 Рік тому

    talking speed is perfectly fine, keep it up man

  • @ajimbong1623
    @ajimbong1623 Рік тому

    Josh, thank you very much for this great video.
    I am a programmer too and this was really helpful 🙏

    • @ajimbong1623
      @ajimbong1623 Рік тому

      And I also don't think you're talking too fast😅
      That's just the right pace for me.

  • @MiguelAPerez
    @MiguelAPerez Рік тому +2

    Speech speed is fine. I like It!
    But you’re crazy! The good kind of crazy. Making the list must’ve been an insanely time consuming task, and ordering every laptop is bananas.
    Can’t wait to see those videos!

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  Рік тому +1

      Yep. I currently have a stack of laptop boxes taller than me. Thanks for the comment

  • @williamdissing1041
    @williamdissing1041 Рік тому

    You're not talking too fast, perfect paste. thank you for your videos