I like how the ref whispers to Allen 'I know you didn't do anything' when Ronnie was far enough away. Then say to Ronnie 'I think Mark will be careful from now on.'
Both things can be true. Allen might not have done anything deliberate but he can still be careful he doesn't do anything Ronnie might perceive to be a distraction.
@Michael Jagger well, for a start, O'Sullivan and Allen would have respected a top referee like Verhaas. This guy constantly makes errors. So what I would have done differently? Fired him years ago for his ineptitude.
I know Ronnie can be very ignorant at times, but I have to say I’m with him on this one, mark shouldn’t be standing around the table when his opponent is at the table that’s very off putting and disrespectful. That’s why Ronnie took his time to make a point. The ref should be able to tell players to stay seated if There not playing, also the rules state the non striker should be seated, the ref should know this and acted on it to avoid situations like this.
I reckon Ronnie was on a bit of a wind up here, that smirk he gives as he’s drinking his water thinking I’m gonna stir the pot a bit and see what happens
Nah mate. Not having that. O’Sullivan couldn’t handle that Allen was drubbing him and threw his toys out of the pram trying to lash out and blame someone, something, anything, anyone other than himself. But if what you are saying is true (which I don’t think it is), but IF it is true then that was extremely poor sportsmanship on Ronnie’s part. To start some unwarranted bs made up argument against your opponent; falsely accusing Allen and deliberately trying to put him off. So either way you want it, ROS comes off as being a total knob here.
Ye standing on ground that was directly in Ron's eye line, obviously he will be annoyed he's down games...if it was the audience moving he would have said the same, not only that but its entertaining seeing players an controversy...People make videos specifically on that subject so stfu all of you.
@Michael Jagger Mate the fact of the matter is, me, Ron and Selby would sooner be sniffin rocks and banging chick's on that table than potting balls, the bottom line is Ali Carter has 1 ball, your either gonna spread it or stfu seriously
@Michael Jagger it's not even like Ali can say ..ye its one ball but its a high value black ball worth 7 because he's white, its more like a 2 point yellow ball, what a raw deal he's been given
@Michael Jagger No, standing in his eyeline at other times in the match where Allen played his shot without potting anything and then instead of going back to his seat, he was stood at the baulk end of the table in O'Sullivan's eyeline. The instance when O'Sullivan spoke to Allen was when he was sat down but pulled the logo off his waistcoat when O'Sullivan was at the table, which presumably involved movement and noise.
He forgets the way he got on against peter eldon lying with a towel on his head while peter played his shots and laughing at him when returned to his chair. Think ronnie just making headlines to keep him the talking point. U can tell a man's character best when he loses
I thought Allen held it together pretty well. Tensions run high, especially when you're not performing up to your own standards. Ronnie is such a perfectionist that he feels irritated if his game is under par, even slightly. Add to that the smallest of distractions and you have a potential situation. The mere fact Ronnie was (uncharacteristically) taking longer over shots should have told Mark something. You don't remove velcro or whatever when a player is on the shot. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate but even so, these guys are experienced enough to know better. But, he did react like a gentleman. Ronnie shouldn't have gone over to him. The referee? Should have been a bit firmer instead of pleading. He loses his authority like that. Ronnie was almost ignoring him at first. No player is bigger than the game or the referee. I hope we are not witnessing a moving away from the 'gentleman's game'. One of the reasons I'm proud to be a snooker player and love the game is that it is always played in an impeccable gentlemanly way
When Ronnie is on form, he could put in almost impossible shots with bombs going off behind him, but when he's off he's just looking for something to blame it on.
This is why we love the fucker..it's a breath o fresh air watchin an unpredictable absolute genius....without o'Sullivan that game loses 3/4s of its viewers inc me
as an irishman my favourite player ever is Ronnie. he is genius. great personality. mark has not fulfilled his potential. he is one of the few who could give Ronnie a run for his money. this incident was funny and a bit embarrassing for both. mark is no angel
@@RobK32most likely because Allen is from Ireland, and you could assume that he would follow his fellow countryman. Ronnie (although he has an Irish surname) is English, so the OP is just pointing out that his favorite player ever is an Englishman.
Ronnie wasn't prepared for a performance like that from allen. Schoolboy error never ever underestimate the opponent. Ronnie thought he could just go through the motions and win easy.. I like Ronnie but that was all just frustration of getting twatted on the table, simple as...
Only for Ronnie the commentators would not have a job and snooker wud be sponsored by pukka pies and maplin again..... That been said he was wrong last night he didn't want it as much as he did against willo or Selby at the world's 👎he was laughing drinking his water🙈
If I was the referee: "Ronnie, shut up and play the shot. I'll give you five seconds, then I'll award the frame to your opponent. Five.. four.. three.."
Both up to no good. Ron taking surplus time on shots. Mark clearly fidgeting in his chair 6:44. The exchange went on too long but the off-baize antics have provided a talking point other than a missed pot or a fluke for once. Bring some character to the game. Conflict resolution training for the ref required -- Jan or Mich would've have sorted them out.
6:40. Mark was definitely moving when Ronnie tried to take the shot. He also looked at Ronnie again to see if Ronnie were taking the shot and proceeded to do that deliberately. Now I don't know about what other events have happened during the match but it was spot on Mark was trying to distract Ronnie here.
well if you had actually watched the match then you would know that mark allen was having trouble with his sponsor badge and had to take it off because it kept coming unstuck whilst he was taking shots, he wasn't deliberately trying to distract anybody he was trying to rub off the sticky so he could cue properly.
@@earfortrance3776 yes he had trouble with the badge. What he shouldn’t do is moving around with it while Ronnnie is lining up the shot. Look at around 6.50 as Jin says. He probably had enough of it by then and thats when the talk started. I have had many arguments with people over these sorts of things in the past when they move around to the pocket, start chalking in your eyeline, wiggle. Some deliberate some not but you are not supposed to move in the players eyeline of the shot. Why do you think referees now move all behind the player when he is lining up? In the old days that wasn’t always the case but now they do. Look I have only seen the 6.50min mark one. We have to look at the whole match back from 3-2 as Ronnie says if he made it up or not. The rest is speculation..
@@tonyh7994 no shit, but to not move at all is another matter, alright for ronnie to pick his nose. Bite his nails, put towels over his head , ask what the time is from a member of the crowd etc..... Grest player best of all time, yes..... Big nob head with issues also lol 😂
The ref had EVERY right to stick up for Allen. That ref has been on the receiving end of ronnie's antics quite a lot. Plenty of you tube videos over the years
Receiving end for not being able to spot balls properly which you could understand being an annoyance you’d give out to the postman if he didn’t deliver your mail
Why don’t they show whether Allen was moving or not during ronnie’s shot. It’s a little unfair to blame it all on Ronnie. Just show the clip, so people can make their own decision.
YEH! i agree Big time, Iv'e slowed it wright down and you can clearly see mark goading Ronnie, Looking at his wrist, When he hasn't even got a watch on for a start, As if to say, Come on Ronnie in a sarcastic way, then he looks at him to try to get a reaction out of him. But why try to edit it out. Why not show what mark was doing, To give Ronnie all the blame that's why. They did a similar thing to Alex Higgins, He got the Blame for everything, But that's what the Press and snooker Wanted you to think. They never showed you what was done or said to him. Dennis Taylor once stuck up for Alex and said Alex Isn't all to Blame, he was treated Badly. And the same here, They are Siding with mark. OK Ronnie Isn't Perfect, But On this occasion Ronnie was Right to React. To him.
Ronnie gets distracted by everything seen him so many times whinging away in different matches. Yea Allen was moving - but not intentionally to put Ronnie off. You can't be like a statue while sat in your chair. Ronnie is the worst for fidgeting in his chair anyway so should take a look at himself before trying to bully others. He's a great player but his antics off the baize are getting a little boring
With respect you are supposed to be still in your chair - just for that few seconds while the player is actually on the shot. Most players manage to do this - freezing at the right moment. Allen didn't - whether deliberately or not I couldn't say.
@@adrianwright8685 agreed , not in a condescending way but most of these comments show that most people don't know what they're talking about , you don't fidget with your logo when there's a chance your opponent can see it with his peripheral vision , ronnie was right to complain and allen was clumsy and careless , no reason to think it was deliberate though .
Yea Aren’t you an Amateur. Watch the full match and you’ll see how he was standing up for nearly 2 minutes and he wouldn’t get the message, twice! And from a different camera that they didn’t show us, you can see Allen removing his FAT LOGO of HiS chest as Ronnie was cueing. Marcel should have stepped in and told Allen to take a seat, but there are poor Referees as well.
A cc copy of a general comment on this video: "Gar Beal and RW comments on here, say exactly the same thing (reference their substitute teacher). Comments made on the same day in the comments thread. I see this all the time on videos - so what's the explanation of it? Beyond an obvious one, that one guy chooses to basically say the same thing right after a first one says it - which is weird in itself. But there has to something else to it, as it's so widespread and often occurring. Like robot or fake comments or something?" What's your take?
@@documax123 I seen a man supposedly in charge being ignored and likened it to a substitute teacher being ignored......I think you've thought about this too much personally.
Most people want to disregard Allen was messing with his jacket whilst Ronnie was down on the shot, regardless of how well or badly handled the situation, Allen was out of order you don’t do that when the other player is on a shot. Whether he was doing to it to put him off is hard to say but he was deliberately not following the right etiquette.
Mad Ron mad genius when he retires the game becomes boring.you will never stop Ronnie doing these kind of things been doing it for 25 years.not going to change now keep doing what you do Ronnie great entertainment
@@maqboolahmed3464 Ronnie blows hot and cold when he's on top form he wins simple as that.but the years or creeping up so getting harder for him now.hes 45 so I give him five more years to try and win a 7th worlds could of been 10 worlds I believe if he had hendrys head
@@Hughbens i know it`s true, but what does it have to do with him?? If someone's father is in prison, then he goes crazy? Incidentally, someone who has this theory is crazy!!
You're getting snooker mixed up with pool. That behaviour isn't acceptable, O'Sullivan was bang out of order. Funny how all of the "controversial" episodes involve people like him and Higgins, massively talented but act like arseholes.
@@malcolmbosanko2007 I don't disagree. But if I'm gonna watch through several hours of snooker I like a bit of drama to spice things up. Every sport has its anti heroes e.g McEnroe, Tyson. It puts bums on seats and helps with sponsorship etc..Sadly thats the way these things work
ROS is a tit. He may be, by some distance, the most talented man to ever pick up a cue. But a tit he remains. If I'd been interviewing him I'd have asked him about his antics earlier in the year against Selby. Eg. conceding the frame when Selby was at the table by walking out of the arena for a slash. Cock.
Absolutely rubbish mate, it’s funny how Ronnie a pansy narcissist gets all the attention, has to create something when it’s peaceful, I’ll be glad when he retires, it’ll be great news for true snooker fans. Well done Mark Allen for putting him in his place
The truth is, we can't read what is concealed in Ronnie's mind, since he is very emotional uncertainty... One after another issue he created in many occasions over the past, afterall I still admire him as a genius player and his fabulous achievements. 😁
I remember the late, great Alex Higgins once complaining that his opponent (I forget who it was) who was sat directly behind his shot, that he was in his line of thought 😀
Bully’s like bullying, I’ve posted before that Ronnies a bully, runs in the family, if he doesn’t get his own way he doesn’t like it, how many times has he said he’s jacking snooker in when he loses. Well he’s still here!
He is and he’s an attention seeker, and quite manipulative. Here for example he tries to cause a distraction by making up something about his opponent and claiming they are causing the distraction. Nasty bloke. People in Snooker should speak out more against his behaviour.
All of you guys chattin baloney need to watch the actual unedited vid to see marks annoying fat ass constantly standing up m.ua-cam.com/video/YLKFu-n2Iag/v-deo.html
I thought same. He got desperate(Ronnie) and try to throw Mark off his game. Walking back and forth in front of Mark's chair like an animal would. Definitely tactical to slow Mark Allen down.
@@ericryckman5174 - Didn't see it at the time but I sensed that something was wrong with O'Sullivan when he had snookered Allen being the green , Allen misses and then instead putting him right back in and wasted two minutes looking at other possible shots to play.
@@Mackie9210 yeah I noticed that, reminded me of the semi of the worlds when selby took an eternity to put ronnie back in when it was blatantly obvious that was what he was going to.
@@LFCJOEM91 - It was werid seeing Ronnie do what likes Selby and Ebdon have done to him in the past. Was just stupid what he did really, was down for an easy red, Allen wasn't directly in his eyeline.
“I’ll keep an eye on mark, play your shot Ronny or I’m fouling you, you’ve got 5 seconds” such an easy and effective way this could’ve been dealt with by the referee.
@@williamgeorge4349 Wow, you really have been sniffing far too many wheelchair seats pal, how dare you speak about the legend in such a derogatory way? Get back to your handicapped wheelchair seats William!
Lol everyone loved Alex Higgins, but he head butted officials and sometimes threatened players. He was the people’s champion. And people loved him because you never knew what Alex would turn up. Alex was snookers first maverick. Ronnie is the same - enjoy his talent and his antics while he’s still around. The day he retires will be a sad day for snooker.
@@Buz-Lunch-Punx I know. He was right about saying the standard was poor nowadays too. Problem is he's given himself a certain reputation. To be fair if it upsets Mark Selby it's not a bad thing!
Ronnie is one of the greatest of all time but he has often acted like a spoilt child when things aren'tgoing his way. If Ronnie had a problem he should of spoke to the referee.Ronnie got frustrated and spat his dummy out 🤣
No the idiot Referee should’ve stepped in and told Allen to take a seat, it’s in the Rule Book dummy. Poor job done by Marcel and Allen could not own up to it, look at him fiddling around with the towel and his cue looking for places to hide his lie.
It's very hard being a Ronnie fan because he's such a twat, but he's so bloody entertaining. He wouldn't be as appealing as a player or person if he was as good but had a 'normal' personality. The flawed cheeky genius, there'll never be another. The prick.
I'm a big Ronnie fan, but sometimes he acuses his opponents of doing the very things that that he has done to them at crucial moments of a match, such as getting in another players eye line..He's an amazing player but such a diva at times..
Firstly I'd like to say as a huge snooker fan was very excited about this match. I put a bet on o'sullivan to win because he has got a great record in this tournament. Great match 3-3 great standard and was expecting ronnie to go up another gear but mark did instead played beautifully, 5-3 up that final frame I didn't detect any sign of mark putting him of he's not like that been watching him for years there was some minor movement. The truth is ronnie was getting slaughtered and he didn't like it so he was trying his tactics to get to mark but didn't work ronnie spending 2 minutes on shots don't respect that I'm glad mark won I don't care I lost my money if your not going to play the game in a respectable fashion then I'm not interested.
Referee was like my substitute teacher at school trying to keep control
Hahaha that was like me trying to talk down my year 11's...I dont teach any more 😄
Kept using the word please....😂😂
LOOOOL best comment on youtube
Yes, I ripped the hole out of a few of mine too.
Well done mark not letting bully boy Ronnie get to him.......he does it all the time and commentators up his arse.....
I like how the ref whispers to Allen 'I know you didn't do anything' when Ronnie was far enough away. Then say to Ronnie 'I think Mark will be careful from now on.'
Referee should b made secretary general of UN
Seen him do it many times. They get trained exactly what to say.
Both things can be true. Allen might not have done anything deliberate but he can still be careful he doesn't do anything Ronnie might perceive to be a distraction.
Lol
This
Referee is like Ronnie’s girlfriend on night out trying to stop her fella from getting in a fight, “just leave it Ronnie he’s not worth it”
He's begging. Poor bloke
@@mariamalik4810 are you mental? Cancel culture.
@@mariamalik4810 if by legitimatise your concern you mean identify your paranoia 💯
@@mariamalik4810 everyone's a victim 🙄
@@mariamalik4810 burn them all
This referee is a real beacon of authority and discipline
Haha, maybe he was a doorman before doing this job.
@@dylanharrington744 at build-a-bear
Technics Fan lol.
@Michael Jagger well, for a start, O'Sullivan and Allen would have respected a top referee like Verhaas. This guy constantly makes errors. So what I would have done differently? Fired him years ago for his ineptitude.
@@pelcenglishcourses1841 what would you have done if you were the referee, you dumbfuck
Both tooled up with a cue each, less talking, more whacking, let's get it onnnnnnn.🤣
Think ronnie thought his last name was pickering for a minute or 2
Pickawing
Who?never heard of him
That's Ronnie f*cking Pickering to you...
Who's Ronnie fkn Pickering?
Lets have a bareknuckle then
That ref had no idea how to handle that did he?
"Please can we just play snooker please?"
What's he supposed to do tell them to take it outside😂
@@paulr6881 Or perhaps have a bit more authority and tell them to stop bickering rather than asking politely?
Ref sounds like the biggest bitch ever 😂
@@paddybrady5874 well to be honest, he's only there to enforce the rules and make sure it's fair. Not baby sit adults! :/ 😂
I know Ronnie can be very ignorant at times, but I have to say I’m with him on this one, mark shouldn’t be standing around the table when his opponent is at the table that’s very off putting and disrespectful. That’s why Ronnie took his time to make a point. The ref should be able to tell players to stay seated if There not playing, also the rules state the non striker should be seated, the ref should know this and acted on it to avoid situations like this.
No cameramen or crowd to blame for defeat
"Do you disagree with me?"
"Absolutely, yeah"
"Really?"
😂
I reckon Ronnie was on a bit of a wind up here, that smirk he gives as he’s drinking his water thinking I’m gonna stir the pot a bit and see what happens
Spot on he done his own head in👌
Ronnie,He's a fucking arsehole!!
@@CwRedcloud You obviously know him personally then!?
@@napoleonreed3309 that's a reply a 10 year old would say .. are you 10,Nap?
Nah mate. Not having that. O’Sullivan couldn’t handle that Allen was drubbing him and threw his toys out of the pram trying to lash out and blame someone, something, anything, anyone other than himself. But if what you are saying is true (which I don’t think it is), but IF it is true then that was extremely poor sportsmanship on Ronnie’s part. To start some unwarranted bs made up argument against your opponent; falsely accusing Allen and deliberately trying to put him off. So either way you want it, ROS comes off as being a total knob here.
I like Ronnie but fair play to Mark for standing his ground
Ye standing on ground that was directly in Ron's eye line, obviously he will be annoyed he's down games...if it was the audience moving he would have said the same, not only that but its entertaining seeing players an controversy...People make videos specifically on that subject so stfu all of you.
BTW Ali Carter has 1 ball, pass it on.
@Michael Jagger Mate the fact of the matter is, me, Ron and Selby would sooner be sniffin rocks and banging chick's on that table than potting balls, the bottom line is Ali Carter has 1 ball, your either gonna spread it or stfu seriously
@Michael Jagger it's not even like Ali can say ..ye its one ball but its a high value black ball worth 7 because he's white, its more like a 2 point yellow ball, what a raw deal he's been given
@Michael Jagger No, standing in his eyeline at other times in the match where Allen played his shot without potting anything and then instead of going back to his seat, he was stood at the baulk end of the table in O'Sullivan's eyeline.
The instance when O'Sullivan spoke to Allen was when he was sat down but pulled the logo off his waistcoat when O'Sullivan was at the table, which presumably involved movement and noise.
“Your nicking my eye liner. Bang out of order.”😄🙂🤣😃😊😅😄
One of those perfect storm situations where Ronnie was in a bad mood and Allen not being overly sensitive to keeping still
Exactly. You called it.
He forgets the way he got on against peter eldon lying with a towel on his head while peter played his shots and laughing at him when returned to his chair. Think ronnie just making headlines to keep him the talking point. U can tell a man's character best when he loses
after all that argument.. he missed the red ..
hahaha..
Because his mind was not there at that moment
He tried to put Allen off and ended up putting himself off 🤣🙄
@Wayne Anthony Holmes I agree Wayne he let himself down big time
KARMA.
It was because Allen was moving and distracting him again. Didn’t you see?! 😂
The ref ruled that game with an iron fist
@Greg Fisher You don't think so? What makes you think that?
Why can’t we see footage of him moving about 🤷🏻♂️
You can see Mark at 6:45 pulling off his sponsors badge as Ronnie is taking the shot, no need to behave like that though
@@chriscoulson6738 he was moving around a hell of a lot
Whatever Allen was doin it certainly worked as he ultimately beat ronnie
twitter.com/Dazza147/status/1324491358988587010?s=01
Cos the whole world’s against Ronnie.
If they were down the local snooker hall, I fancy Mark would have been out his seat when Ronnie came walking towards him like that.
100% mate! He's a big lad and I don't think he's the type of person to take shit.
No , he can kill Mark
Within a second .. a wanker Mark is
Mark went white 😂 his lip was trembling and everything. Pussy
@@steroe7965 hahaha I'm actually a ronnie fan, but he is a fucking melt!
I thought Allen held it together pretty well. Tensions run high, especially when you're not performing up to your own standards. Ronnie is such a perfectionist that he feels irritated if his game is under par, even slightly. Add to that the smallest of distractions and you have a potential situation. The mere fact Ronnie was (uncharacteristically) taking longer over shots should have told Mark something. You don't remove velcro or whatever when a player is on the shot. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate but even so, these guys are experienced enough to know better. But, he did react like a gentleman. Ronnie shouldn't have gone over to him. The referee? Should have been a bit firmer instead of pleading. He loses his authority like that. Ronnie was almost ignoring him at first. No player is bigger than the game or the referee. I hope we are not witnessing a moving away from the 'gentleman's game'. One of the reasons I'm proud to be a snooker player and love the game is that it is always played in an impeccable gentlemanly way
When Ronnie is on form, he could put in almost impossible shots with bombs going off behind him, but when he's off he's just looking for something to blame it on.
Exactly when your focusing on the job in hand like at the world's ya don't notice anything 🙏
6:45 I know Ronnie isn't everyone's cup of tea, but here Mark is literally ripping his label off as Ronnie is down for his shot
Ronnie was looking the other way lol
i was having a wank at home in that moment too, did that also put him off? guy is a massive bellend.
I'm not a Ronnie fan but I'm a bit disappointed in the pros not at least acknowledging what Allen did as uncomfortable as it can be.
Love ronnie but sometimes he needs a right hook to bring him bk to earth
@Joe Bloggs the word is gangsters not rap made word ‘gangstas’ lol
@@trademarkuk7504 Bollocks
This is why we love the fucker..it's a breath o fresh air watchin an unpredictable absolute genius....without o'Sullivan that game loses 3/4s of its viewers inc me
@@terrymckenna3382 I agree. It's the characters that make the snooker more enjoyable .
The guy is a lairy fucking wanker, thinks he is bigger than the game, can't take losing enough said
I love how commanding the referee is
as an irishman my favourite player ever is Ronnie. he is genius. great personality. mark has not fulfilled his potential. he is one of the few who could give Ronnie a run for his money. this incident was funny and a bit embarrassing for both. mark is no angel
Why did you mention your nationality?
@@RobK32most likely because Allen is from Ireland, and you could assume that he would follow his fellow countryman. Ronnie (although he has an Irish surname) is English, so the OP is just pointing out that his favorite player ever is an Englishman.
Ronnie wasn't prepared for a performance like that from allen. Schoolboy error never ever underestimate the opponent. Ronnie thought he could just go through the motions and win easy.. I like Ronnie but that was all just frustration of getting twatted on the table, simple as...
@The End yes Allen ground him down.
Get the feeling the commenters and most pro players dont really like Ronnie
Cos he’s a prick. Simple
Only for Ronnie the commentators would not have a job and snooker wud be sponsored by pukka pies and maplin again..... That been said he was wrong last night he didn't want it as much as he did against willo or Selby at the world's 👎he was laughing drinking his water🙈
Ronnie is the rockstar of the scene though - imo very important for the game.
@@garethparr9482 and his father is a murderer.
@Nat Rfc false
Allen was out of order. He knew exactly what he was doing
Yeah, how dare he sit at 90 degrees to Ronnie's LOS. Moron.
If I was the referee: "Ronnie, shut up and play the shot. I'll give you five seconds, then I'll award the frame to your opponent. Five.. four.. three.."
yeah idiots often become referees
Even better, to add to make it fair for both “And I’ll keep a watch on Mark”
Such an easy solution.
@@itnaklipse1669 his cornice as a referees is what makes him a professional.
Matthew Oakley No such thing you can do though. Doesn't apply to the rulebook
Ronnie is his own worst enemy.
...and always has been.
@@COLEEN322 I'm watching you...
Yes, but can relate. Perfectionists need perfection and are hypersensitive to things that are off and then don’t let go
@@Team-fabulous tagged the wrong dude 😂
Well said.
Its like Djokovic only Djokovic can beat Djokovic. The same with Ronnie
Both up to no good. Ron taking surplus time on shots. Mark clearly fidgeting in his chair 6:44. The exchange went on too long but the off-baize antics have provided a talking point other than a missed pot or a fluke for once. Bring some character to the game. Conflict resolution training for the ref required -- Jan or Mich would've have sorted them out.
i love the tinned clapping at the end when no one was there
6:40. Mark was definitely moving when Ronnie tried to take the shot. He also looked at Ronnie again to see if Ronnie were taking the shot and proceeded to do that deliberately. Now I don't know about what other events have happened during the match but it was spot on Mark was trying to distract Ronnie here.
well if you had actually watched the match then you would know that mark allen was having trouble with his sponsor badge and had to take it off because it kept coming unstuck whilst he was taking shots, he wasn't deliberately trying to distract anybody he was trying to rub off the sticky so he could cue properly.
@@earfortrance3776 yes he had trouble with the badge. What he shouldn’t do is moving around with it while Ronnnie is lining up the shot. Look at around 6.50 as Jin says. He probably had enough of it by then and thats when the talk started. I have had many arguments with people over these sorts of things in the past when they move around to the pocket, start chalking in your eyeline, wiggle. Some deliberate some not but you are not supposed to move in the players eyeline of the shot. Why do you think referees now move all behind the player when he is lining up? In the old days that wasn’t always the case but now they do. Look I have only seen the 6.50min mark one. We have to look at the whole match back from 3-2 as Ronnie says if he made it up or not. The rest is speculation..
@@earfortrance3776 apparently you have to turn into a busking manaquin whilst sat in your seat
@@topwelda147 You're meant to sit still when the opponent is lining up a shot yes
@@tonyh7994 no shit, but to not move at all is another matter, alright for ronnie to pick his nose. Bite his nails, put towels over his head , ask what the time is from a member of the crowd etc..... Grest player best of all time, yes..... Big nob head with issues also lol 😂
Seriously thought Ronnie was going to crack Mark over the head when he went up to him.
The ref had EVERY right to stick up for Allen.
That ref has been on the receiving end of ronnie's antics quite a lot.
Plenty of you tube videos over the years
Receiving end for not being able to spot balls properly which you could understand being an annoyance you’d give out to the postman if he didn’t deliver your mail
The Ref had every right to ask Allen to take to his Seat.
6:44
Why don’t they show whether Allen was moving or not during ronnie’s shot.
It’s a little unfair to blame it all on Ronnie. Just show the clip, so people can make their own decision.
Absolutely spot on man
YEH! i agree Big time, Iv'e slowed it wright down and you can clearly see mark goading Ronnie,
Looking at his wrist, When he hasn't even got a watch on for a start, As if to say, Come on Ronnie
in a sarcastic way, then he looks at him to try to get a reaction out of him. But why try to edit it out.
Why not show what mark was doing, To give Ronnie all the blame that's why. They did a similar
thing to Alex Higgins, He got the Blame for everything, But that's what the Press and snooker
Wanted you to think. They never showed you what was done or said to him. Dennis Taylor once
stuck up for Alex and said Alex Isn't all to Blame, he was treated Badly. And the same here, They are
Siding with mark. OK Ronnie Isn't Perfect, But On this occasion Ronnie was Right to React. To him.
6:45
I'm dreaming of the day two players have a full on bundle mid match,hopefully rolling around the table,ripped shirts,ref running away...marvellous
"full on bundle", haven't heard that phrase for yonks
😆
Like the time Alex Higgins headbutted the referee during a game
One of them stood on the table booting the other like Deniro in Mean Streets.
@@conjob8168 Higgins headbutted Paul Hetherall BACKSTAGE - never done that during a game. Facts straight please.
Ronnie gets distracted by everything seen him so many times whinging away in different matches. Yea Allen was moving - but not intentionally to put Ronnie off. You can't be like a statue while sat in your chair. Ronnie is the worst for fidgeting in his chair anyway so should take a look at himself before trying to bully others. He's a great player but his antics off the baize are getting a little boring
With respect you are supposed to be still in your chair - just for that few seconds while the player is actually on the shot. Most players manage to do this - freezing at the right moment. Allen didn't - whether deliberately or not I couldn't say.
Well said
@@adrianwright8685 agreed , not in a condescending way but most of these comments show that most people don't know what they're talking about , you don't fidget with your logo when there's a chance your opponent can see it with his peripheral vision , ronnie was right to complain and allen was clumsy and careless , no reason to think it was deliberate though .
Yea Aren’t you an Amateur. Watch the full match and you’ll see how he was standing up for nearly 2 minutes and he wouldn’t get the message, twice! And from a different camera that they didn’t show us, you can see Allen removing his FAT LOGO of HiS chest as Ronnie was cueing. Marcel should have stepped in and told Allen to take a seat, but there are poor Referees as well.
@@y2kazan868 grow up you twat
The ref whispering to mark Allen you did nothing wrong 😂the commentary extraordinary exchange 😂oh dear he missed the red god dammit
That ref was like the substitute teacher nobody used to listen to back in school.
A cc copy of a general comment on this video:
"Gar Beal and RW comments on here, say exactly the same thing (reference their substitute teacher). Comments made on the same day in the comments thread. I see this all the time on videos - so what's the explanation of it? Beyond an obvious one, that one guy chooses to basically say the same thing right after a first one says it - which is weird in itself. But there has to something else to it, as it's so widespread and often occurring. Like robot or fake comments or something?" What's your take?
@@documax123 I seen a man supposedly in charge being ignored and likened it to a substitute teacher being ignored......I think you've thought about this too much personally.
@@garbeal2397 ah, you miss my point. That's nothing to do with what I am asking you.
@@documax123 maybe make your point a bit more fucking concise and I'd understand what you're waffling on about.
@@documax123 Fucking ell we don't need a fucking paragraph sort it out nonce
He was ripping the logo off his waistcoat as Ronnie was cueing up ..show the footage instead of blaming Ronnie ..
Most people want to disregard Allen was messing with his jacket whilst Ronnie was down on the shot, regardless of how well or badly handled the situation, Allen was out of order you don’t do that when the other player is on a shot. Whether he was doing to it to put him off is hard to say but he was deliberately not following the right etiquette.
Mad Ron mad genius when he retires the game becomes boring.you will never stop Ronnie doing these kind of things been doing it for 25 years.not going to change now keep doing what you do Ronnie great entertainment
Genius losing the match is sad sight to watch, Fatty played well but also cracked the Genius by distraction is pathetic !
@@maqboolahmed3464 Ronnie blows hot and cold when he's on top form he wins simple as that.but the years or creeping up so getting harder for him now.hes 45 so I give him five more years to try and win a 7th worlds could of been 10 worlds I believe if he had hendrys head
after all that argument.. he miss the red hahaha.. right
Covid is made Ronnie insane.
*has
@@stringer-ik1pc what a loser you can be to say something like that?
@@Hamid8766 It's true, whether you like it or not.
@@Hughbens i know it`s true, but what does it have to do with him?? If someone's father is in prison, then he goes crazy? Incidentally, someone who has this theory is crazy!!
@Jimmy Johnson He said no wonder insanity is in his blood, cuz we all know his father is a criminal in jail.
I’ve heard Ronnie going on about stuff going on in his eyeline before.
he's fair dinkum
ronnie actually did the smae thing several times vs selby in the WSC semi final, but selby didn't stop the game to argue.
Like him or loathe him.. wrong or right EVERYBODY is talking about it! That’s good for snooker
You're getting snooker mixed up with pool. That behaviour isn't acceptable, O'Sullivan was bang out of order. Funny how all of the "controversial" episodes involve people like him and Higgins, massively talented but act like arseholes.
@@malcolmbosanko2007 I don't disagree. But if I'm gonna watch through several hours of snooker I like a bit of drama to spice things up. Every sport has its anti heroes e.g McEnroe, Tyson. It puts bums on seats and helps with sponsorship etc..Sadly thats the way these things work
Like I said, you're mixing up snooker with pool. There's no reason to push acceptable behaviour limits, unless you're a spoilt prick.
Focus on the table and not that everyone else is doing.
Who else was waiting for Ronnie to tell the ref to STFU? 😄
Like Begbie in trainspotting!
fucking brand neeewwww
Is there not footage of allen standing on the shots
6:49 u can see mark messing with his shirt when Ronnie got hos hand on the table so obviously there's truth to what Ronnie said
exactly
ROS is a tit. He may be, by some distance, the most talented man to ever pick up a cue. But a tit he remains. If I'd been interviewing him I'd have asked him about his antics earlier in the year against Selby. Eg. conceding the frame when Selby was at the table by walking out of the arena for a slash. Cock.
Absolutely rubbish mate, it’s funny how Ronnie a pansy narcissist gets all the attention, has to create something when it’s peaceful, I’ll be glad when he retires, it’ll be great news for true snooker fans. Well done Mark Allen for putting him in his place
@@qamarqureshi1652 he gets the attention cause he plays snooker thats out of this world you numptie , ye no nothing
Can someone explain what happened??
Ronnie ends his interview with shi-shi 🤣
what does that mean? Is it a real word/phrase?
@@Mrphilharmonic think it means bye bye in Chinese
It means thank you in mandarin.
Xie-xie means thank you in mandarin Chinese
Ronnie laughing while he's drinking the water before he says anything, guy's a menace 😂
The truth is, we can't read what is concealed in Ronnie's mind, since he is very emotional uncertainty... One after another issue he created in many occasions over the past, afterall I still admire him as a genius player and his fabulous achievements. 😁
Allen looked up for a scrap in the post match interview hahaha top bloke
Allen would bang him cleeeeeean out!
I remember the late, great Alex Higgins once complaining that his opponent (I forget who it was) who was sat directly behind his shot, that he was in his line of thought 😀
haha, great
What's with the poor sound quality? Is it just on sky?
I always thought of ronnie as being a knob, bigheaded and arrogant.
Good for you
I'm sure it keeps him up at night...
You're correct Chris.
Bully’s like bullying, I’ve posted before that Ronnies a bully, runs in the family, if he doesn’t get his own way he doesn’t like it, how many times has he said he’s jacking snooker in when he loses. Well he’s still here!
He is and he’s an attention seeker, and quite manipulative. Here for example he tries to cause a distraction by making up something about his opponent and claiming they are causing the distraction. Nasty bloke. People in Snooker should speak out more against his behaviour.
Yet hes the best so...
Your talking about the best player EVER. But your not bitter & You know his family so well yeah.?
@@jamesm1579 they cant he's snooker cash cow and without him snooker wud be sponsored by pukka pies and maplin again 👎
All of you guys chattin baloney need to watch the actual unedited vid to see marks annoying fat ass constantly standing up m.ua-cam.com/video/YLKFu-n2Iag/v-deo.html
Is this the most exciting thing to ever happen in a snooker match?
Needs a Waterboy or Happy Gilmore does this sport lol
The ref said that to shut Allen up, he also told O'Sullivan Allen would be more careful
Ronnie is just a tortured genius, he will never be bettered in the game, Even Hendry said so much, that is high praise indeed.
The referee reminds me of some drunk dude's bird trying to break up a fight on a night out LMAO
@Greg Fisher - Huh?
6:06 Ronnie saying he knows every move in the book makes me a bit sus if it was just Ronnie using one of his tricks to actually distract Allen 😂
I thought same. He got desperate(Ronnie) and try to throw Mark off his game. Walking back and forth in front of Mark's chair like an animal would. Definitely tactical to slow Mark Allen down.
@@ericryckman5174 - Didn't see it at the time but I sensed that something was wrong with O'Sullivan when he had snookered Allen being the green , Allen misses and then instead putting him right back in and wasted two minutes looking at other possible shots to play.
Ronnie tried to manipulate mark allen to lose but mark held himself together.
@@Mackie9210 yeah I noticed that, reminded me of the semi of the worlds when selby took an eternity to put ronnie back in when it was blatantly obvious that was what he was going to.
@@LFCJOEM91 - It was werid seeing Ronnie do what likes Selby and Ebdon have done to him in the past. Was just stupid what he did really, was down for an easy red, Allen wasn't directly in his eyeline.
at 6:50 you can see mark pulling off his logo!
Yes that’s not good
Well if he was trying to get in your head, he succeeded 😂
It's like a Saturday night at the pub. Two guy's arguing and I wanna punch the peacekeeper.
Pure Madness
Yeah! Snooker players talking! ; )
That's a great album!
Ronnie has always been a nasty piece of work. Remember the shoulder barge as he walked past another player
Yes, think you're referring to the incident against Ali Carter in the world championships in 2018, a match which Carter went on to win I think.
Did well to wined up Ronnie good luck to him
WINED?.YOU.MEAN WIND? SAME SPELLING AS WIND
.DIFFERENT PRONUNCIATION AND MEANINGS
@@jimmymalone9139 pronunciation 😂😂😂
@@fritzblob typo
Mark Allen knocks Ronnie out all day long ffs
@@ULSTERISBRITISH 32 gcontae eireann go luath. Uladh eireanneach . AR LA TAGTHA
Alan was standing up earlier in the frame, ronnie should have highlighted that earlier though.
“I’ll keep an eye on mark, play your shot Ronny or I’m fouling you, you’ve got 5 seconds” such an easy and effective way this could’ve been dealt with by the referee.
Easy to say when you are not in the heat of the moment.
Anyone able to type out exactly what was said?
Ronnie said you are beating me I don’t like so I am going to be a dickhead
@@robertedward9456 Well, thanks.
Why itv not showing what ronnie is talking about? The getting in eyeline
They showed it at the time live but no commentator mentioned it.
@@tonyh7994 It happened a few times throughout the match.
Ronnie is just a plain and simple arsehole, guy really needs to be put in his place
@@williamgeorge4349 Wow, you really have been sniffing far too many wheelchair seats pal, how dare you speak about the legend in such a derogatory way? Get back to your handicapped wheelchair seats William!
@@COLEEN322 u trying to say he isn't an arsehole????
If crown will be there, smone will definitely shout "Finish him off Ronnnieeeee"
Wish you would have showed the entire altercation.
Lol everyone loved Alex Higgins, but he head butted officials and sometimes threatened players. He was the people’s champion. And people loved him because you never knew what Alex would turn up. Alex was snookers first maverick. Ronnie is the same - enjoy his talent and his antics while he’s still around. The day he retires will be a sad day for snooker.
Never argue with a irish snooker player
How to start an argument with Mark Allen...call him Irish. Hes a Brit. Also a Prick.
Alguien podria decir lo que paso por favor👍
We all know he's the best in form but ronnie o sullivan is a total bellend
Ronnie v Ronnie Pickering, in the back of a mini with 1 foot snooker cues and flip flops on. Who would win you decide.
Who ?? 🙂🙂
Hahaha
I love Ronnie. But if I'm being honest about it - within his genius there are the dimensions of thug and complete tit.
same here ..huge ronnie fan but didnt like this
Deep down I hope he realises his legacy & records can pull him out of only so much muck!
@@christschinwon bruh he was right tho
Ronnie was right you fool
@@Buz-Lunch-Punx I know. He was right about saying the standard was poor nowadays too. Problem is he's given himself a certain reputation. To be fair if it upsets Mark Selby it's not a bad thing!
The whole clip is rendered useless in the absence of the actual alleged incident. Surely it would have been possible to show us the footage?
He was ripping off his logo on the shot to be fair. Ronnie is box office that’s all I’m saying.
Ronnie is one of the greatest of all time but he has often acted like a spoilt child when things aren'tgoing his way. If Ronnie had a problem he should of spoke to the referee.Ronnie got frustrated and spat his dummy out 🤣
No the idiot Referee should’ve stepped in and told Allen to take a seat, it’s in the Rule Book dummy. Poor job done by Marcel and Allen could not own up to it, look at him fiddling around with the towel and his cue looking for places to hide his lie.
@@y2kazan868 🤣🤣🤣
Its sometimes hard being a Ronnie fan 😅 maybe there was some truth to it but either way he took it way to far
Im a ronnie fan as well he was outta of order
O'Sullivan is a spoilt prick.....
It's very hard being a Ronnie fan because he's such a twat, but he's so bloody entertaining. He wouldn't be as appealing as a player or person if he was as good but had a 'normal' personality. The flawed cheeky genius, there'll never be another. The prick.
I'm a big Ronnie fan, but sometimes he acuses his opponents of doing the very things that that he has done to them at crucial moments of a match, such as getting in another players eye line..He's an amazing player but such a diva at times..
The comedy value is amazing!!!!
Ronnie is used to having arguments like this, usually with the voices in his head.
@Supernova Better than being a loser, like you.
Firstly I'd like to say as a huge snooker fan was very excited about this match. I put a bet on o'sullivan to win because he has got a great record in this tournament. Great match 3-3 great standard and was expecting ronnie to go up another gear but mark did instead played beautifully, 5-3 up that final frame I didn't detect any sign of mark putting him of he's not like that been watching him for years there was some minor movement. The truth is ronnie was getting slaughtered and he didn't like it so he was trying his tactics to get to mark but didn't work ronnie spending 2 minutes on shots don't respect that I'm glad mark won I don't care I lost my money if your not going to play the game in a respectable fashion then I'm not interested.
Then you don't know Ronnie at all tbh
Ronnie isn't like that and Mark is a cheating asshole. Mark was putting him off for sure.
Ronnie doesn't care if he loses.
The Referee: invisible man at the bar.
In Ronnie's defence I noticed Mark standing up in Ronnie's eye line early on in the game. So I noticed it before Ronnie said anything.
A love how much the listen to the referee here...he had things under control!!
All that talking made Ronnie miss an easy shot. Guilty conscience always messes me up.
I always say this about, blatant diving in football and they miss due to a unjustified peno.
"clears throat sound"
REf dives for cover while on the phone to the police. "shit is going down!!!"
I notice every time something like this happens, Ronnie seems to be losing the match 🤔
He's the epitome of a fucking sore loser
4:21 🤣🤣🤣 WTF was that, Ronnie?? Like he suddenly burped up a ghost and it scared him for a second.
Drama queen Ronnie. If he carried on like that at the local snooker club he would be carried out.
I think it was the shadow caused by Mark's stomach 🤔
@mar jk
Classic...cant beat them..😆😆😆