Arguably this is what makes Ayanokoji stronger, every volume drop he just becomes stronger 1. He reveals more of what he can do. 2. He adapts very well Spoiler: Ayanokoji adapts to his environment really well, the reason why Tsukishiro was sent there was not to assess Ayanokoji but the test his abilities because they believe that Ayanokoji has been released the outside world he can use this. Ever since he went outside the whiteroom he just kept adapting beyond education that was given to him
Yes, it's true, but I still want to say, Tsukishiro, Shiba, Prime Minister of Japan, Father Ayanokoji, intelligence agencies, Government of Japan and Japan itself, nothing compared to Ayanokoji
@@TBTexts In my opinion, he is now at the level of Johan in terms of intelligence, but when he frees himself and unleashes his full potential, I hope that he will be at the level of Baku, Soichi, Fedor, Dazai, Sora (still he adapts so well that being one of the weakest in the white room, he surpassed everyone, becoming the strongest and smartest)
What changed in Y2V12? he defeated Ichinose? Lmao You Koji fanboys always say that after every volume even when he does something that we all know he could do
It's obvious, considering that Ayanokoji is a character made to be perfect in every sense, but that's easy. On the other hand, Light is a character made with a deeper concept, he's good precisely because he's imperfect, and with those flaws, is better.
@pablolucics.5699 I mean, I feel as though you've misunderstood Kiyotaka's character. Kiyotaka being a flawed human being is literally a main theme in COTE, why do you think Chabashira mentioned that he was the most defective student in all ANHS like 3 times, even WR instructors called Kiyotaka flawed and not in line with their visions, despite his position as the masterpiece of the WR.
Perfection. W edit, and the take? Chef's fucking kiss. Beautiful. Every category distribution was immaculate. Koji may take Leadership, but Light just has more feats in that category. Otherwise, truly perfect. Holy W Hunt, you are one of the best Kouji scalers ever.
EE is not Light's best EQ category, it's either EP or EU imo. The claim that Light's drive to create a better world by killing criminals is strong EE is flatly wrong so unless there is another EE feat which you think is stronger than Koji engaging his emotions to survive the 4th generation curriculum then I have no clue have you have Light taking. Since I have seen this argument for Light's EE many times before I'll explain quickly why it isn't EE at all. Light's actual motivation to create a better world isn't what's driving him after he first uses the notebook. Literally as soon as he used the notebook for the first time he is already showing signs of it corrupting his mind. He wants to be the god of the new world but it wasn't actually to make the world a better place, it was he felt a "divine" urge to give himself an excuse to use the notebook. It's literally the Notebook's influence from the beginning. This becomes crystal clear when we see Light without his memories in the ML arc and that so called "drive" to change the world is gone. It is a byproduct of the Notebook's influence and part of what makes Light a fantastically written character. So his drive to use the Notebook to change the world isn't EE since Light isn't engaging his own emotions to do anything, he acting more and more under the influence of the Notebook.
Good joke. Koji only has influence on his class and class A and Arisu's because she wants his penis. Light destroys him in influencer building because many of his contacts are not than a combination of circumstances. Light slams in both
W take dear huntsy, I still have it at low-mid for now, let's see how will it change upon further analysis 😈 also it's nice to see u finally uploaded again fr !
Acting Skills is close but I have Koji taking. EF is not really debatable imo Light is really not strong here, Koji definitely takes. Low/Mid (-) is a very acceptable take compared to most of SCD but in all honestly I just don't believe the diff is that high. Koji gaps in most categories.
Great Edit and Take. I don't want to ask about Diff because I consider it Valid. I'd like to ask about two other things, why does Koji takes Intuition and Mass Manipulation?(I haven't read the last volume, but I don't remember great feats either.) And why does Light take Leadership?(Ayanokoji seems a bit higher in this to me.).
Thanks fr. Intuition is quite close and give it to Light is probably valid. As for Mass Manipulation Light is essentially featless aside from his use of the Notebook. Ayanokouji takes for his manipulation of the class leaders and the class competition. You could also use Rumor mail feat as he used it to directly manipulate all 4 class leaders and the school officials with it. I don't believe mass manipulation is inherently better by manipulating more people at once, rather I value better manipulation of multiple people or a group more than manipulating more people. For leadership, Light just has more feats imo. His leadership of the task force as L is enough for him to take since Ayanokouji's feats are much more akin to manipulation from the shadows and information control rather than traditional leadership.
@@TheHuntsman1001intuition can easily go to ayanokouji because of vol 0 cry stop feat + that sentence about why he didn't cry I have a question Why does light take influence building Isn't he practically featless in that?
@gotnw any introvert with above avg intelligence with death note could do the same shit I am saying that without death note + I didn't even asked the question to you so why are you answering?
To clarify, Influence building doesn’t value result as much as you think. The whole point of scaling it instead of just influence is for that reason. While I don’t think Light slams here by any means, Koji prefers to utilize the influence of others more than building his own so I have it to Light for his greater number of feats.
Also, I don't see any reason why koji Mass Manip (Rumour Strike) is rated so highly. Rumour Strike is so easy to think, like...Just spread some bad rumour about other class student and then they fight each other, lmao, Even I can think and do that with koji resource(while I think that using death note to building a god figure is harder to think and form)
@@РамисИльдарович I heard that he persuade Kiriyama in order to get him to spread rumours, which is somehow good in Persuasion, but mid asf in Mass Manip and my victim in Mass manip still
@@РамисИльдарович no, but I can spread some rumours and then manip random class to attack random class like Koji did. Also in class I am literally Nagumo fr fr
His best trap setting feat is likely the love letter strategy used to trap Takuya. I’m not sure exactly how many layers it has since I haven’t done a full analysis of that myself.
Before Y2V12 was Nagumo Old Maid feat where while Nagumo was using the games for the sole purpose of evaluating Koji after learning that Manabu respected him. Instead Koji was able to conceal any information about himself while using Nagumo's information gathering attempts to read him instead. From just those games, Koji was able to understand Nagumo's personality and tendencies and anticipate his MTC actions including that Manabu would lose the bet. In Y2V12, his feat involved reading all 14 group participants during the EoY exam. After his manipulation of Ichinose they started a new round with a new group of students. Through the monitor, during their short discussion Koji was able to find both Honor students from pure cold reading/observation. This was similar to what Kouenji did during the Zodiac exam in Y1V4 but much better because Koji was reading a larger group of people, and he wasn't even in the room. He was watching on a monitor. Even still he was able to easily cold read everyone to find both honor students. Also, it's important to note that he observed the entire group through a single monitor so there was no close up view of anyone, it would be showing the entire group at once making an attempt to cold read them much harder. For another comp, we can compare this to the Yotsuba arc of Death Note. This would be similar to if L or Light had been able to identity Kira from just watching the first discussion, although even if they had this was a larger group of people Ayanokouji observed and identified 2 people out of them, not just 1.
Y2V12 had solid buffs for Koji mainly in Emotional Intelligence, Cold Reading, Foresight, and Planning. That being said those buffs aren't massive compared to his overall scaling imo. So Y2V12 > Y2V11 Koji High Diff (+). He got solid buffs in some key categories but his best feats in most categories are from before Y2V12.
I found out that Dax completely beat Loy in the PMH debate. What arguments did he use to beat Loy? Was the issue of Occam's Razor also addressed or did the debate go in a different direction?
Loy's main attempt to debunk PMH via Occam's Razor was that heuristics (mental shortcuts or cues) would trigger when Koji sees Arisu. In that case they should trigger any memory of her and since they don't he should know that he has never met her. This was the main crux of Loy's point and Dax completely dismantled it. If you want to check this out for yourself the debate has it's own channel in Red Dragon. But Dax pointed out 1. Heuristics can't account for Koji's definitive knowledge that he has no memory of Arisu whatsoever since by definition heuristics are not completely accurate 2. Since Koji has never met Arisu heuristics can't even occur and Loy's original premise was that Koji could use these heuristics/retrieval cues to search for Arisu and you can't have retrieval cues for non-existent memories. Loy backtracked in his following response and changed to saying that a lack of retrieval cues would confirm to Koji that he has no memory of Arisu but that was also false and an concession of his original point due to abandoning it via backtrack. 3. Memory cues are an involuntary form of memory recall and Koji doesn't have involuntary memory recall so this alone disproved Loy's entire argument. All of Koji's memory recall is entirely conscious. 4. Dax also showed another time in Y2V11 where Koji mentioned searching all his memories of his school life (Y2V11) which not on the same level as PMH it does satisfy Loy's (technically unreasonable and not needed) claim of ECREE. I just tried to summarize all of Dax's points in a few sentences so if you want more information I suggest checking out the debate channel. But in conclusion Dax showed that Loy was misapplying Occam's Razor in his main premise (which was the same argument he used to beat me in our debate so Dax avenged my loss) and showed that Loy's interpretation was impossible.
Yes, even after debating Loy I didn't believe he had actually debunked PMH but after his debate with Dax it was certainly been completely validated now. Since Loy used the same premise in both his PMH debates and Dax completely dismantled it (since he is a much better debater than I am) Loy's debunk was disproven completely.
You really killed me when you gave Acting skills to Koji.Amd ovr deception to him.I really loved this edit.But the take Nah.Its not less then Mid-High diff.Why so Low in diff?
Koji takes overall deception without much difficulty tbh. He slams in Concealment, Misdirection, and Fabrication. I have acting skills to Koji for his false persona and emotionless persona acting. For the overall diff, I realize Low Diff seems extreme but it is based off all the COTE analysis for the Koji doc I have been a part of. Koji literally slams in most categories and still clears in essentially everything else. Social Intelligence is the closest category between them and Koji honestly takes it.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Well I already commented an essay.But it got nuked because of the connection.But that Fake persona acting is Useless.Koji was already emotionless From the WR.And About your SQ part.SQ is mainly Social skills and charisma rather then adaptibily Bruh.Light also shines there.BTW you think Koji doc will buff him to Baku level
@@Blazeinferno1000 So the main thing I need to point out is that you seem to be under a MAJOR misconception regarding Ayanokouji. He is in no way emotionless. His appearance as such is just EM and acting skills. Koji verbatim confirms as such toward the end of V0 in a monologue : "I sat alone in the quiet car and looked at the view outside the window. "What’s it like to be outside for the first time?" "Nothing." It’s not that I wasn’t curious. It’s just that I don’t feel anything, at least nothing I can call or an emotional response to. "Nothing, huh?" My father had probably thought so. That I was looking out the window without emotions. That I probably couldn’t distinguish the difference between the virtual world and reality now. That was a big mistake. It’s just easier to let people think everything’s under control. At least for now, it’s beneficial for me to keep it that way. There was no need for this to know that I was always sharpening my fangs." He literally says that he is making his father think he doesn't possess emotions, but that is an incorrect assessment on his father's part. Fake persona acting is also NOT useless, it shows his ability to create an entire persona and embody it at will. The persona is so complete that Koji even established false memories, which emotional triggers, associated with his persona. Even someone with exceptional cold reading skills studying his false persona wouldn't find anything unusual. For Social Intelligence the categories I use are Social Engineering: The act of using social situations and conversation to gain information or exert influence. Influence Building: Literally your ability to increase and expand your influence and control through intelligence/social ability. Established influence is irrelevant. Leadership: Self explanatory Resource Management: Your ability to efficiently and effectively utilize the resources available to your in terms of other people's strengths/weaknesses. Your ability to effectively manage other people. Social Integration: (Didn't appear in the edit but Koji takes) Your ability to integrate yourself into a new environment and ability to adapt to new social circumstances. (False persona slams here) Charisma and "Social Skills" are not categories for Social Intelligence since neither one measure a form of intelligence.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Let me make this straight.You either use statements to buff your Character who is your favorite.Or you just undermine the others due to first guy having more feats.I am talking about On screen feats here not statements.And I scale by that TBH.I really think you need to rescale Light.This is just undermining him and overrating Koji as Shit.I agree deception is close.But Social intelligence or SQ isn't.Thanks for responding.You guys make Koji look like a god.Which makes Non Koji scalers troll and Make mocking edits.Suit yourselves.I am not into Debating anymore Have a good day.I hope my explanation wasn't to hasty
@@cuzwhou342Light takes planning. His planning isn't risky Literally he had 4 contingencies mapping out the possible situations and even anticipated the strategy CTW L uses to counter films light, avoiding it
@4slp825 This isn't CTW Light, though, so his feats against CTW L don't matter. Also Memory Loss was risky, so were a couple of his other plans but memory loss was the most so, yes he had a couple of contingencies in place in case things went wrong, but 1) they didn’t account for everything and 2) those contingencies do result in him not being discovered to be Kira but at the same time, those contingencies prevent him from becoming Kira again afterwards and thus don't achieve his actual goals.
It isn’t about how just V12 buffed Koji an insane amount. It’s a culmination of the analysis of his LN feats up to this point which has been continuously worked on.
I will disagree with Light taking any of these categories. Logical Manipulation - Certainly goes to Koji, Light has good showings in feats such as ML or his final plan but this is outclassed by Koji in both X strategy (mainly Y1V6 section) or Love Letter. Mass Manipulation - Light is actually weak here without the use of the notebook, this goes to Koji for Rumor Mail or Love Letter Emotional Manipulation isn't even close - Koji slams via Hirata Manipulation Y1V7, Kei from Y1V4 (weakest of the 3), or Ichinose Y2V12) Emotional Engagement - Koji slams here and it isn't close either. Koji's drive to survive and surpass the 4th gen in the WR and his false persona feats easily clear. Also note that Light did NOT engage himself to drive himself to write names in the notebook. This is a common misconception and contradicts DN's narrative and Light's actions during his ML arc. Prediction is also not close imo - Y1V6 conversation prediction, UVE 5th question are far more complex than anything Light has done and things like Ichinose downfall which he predicted all the way back in early Y1 far exceed him in prediction length. So Koji slams badly in foresight. Glad you enjoyed and agreed with everything else though
I mean, Light can maybe take intuition and creativity, but not exactly sure what else you think he can take. FSEQ and FSSQ are debatable at best and leaning in favour of Kiyotaka, especially after Y2V12 (more so FSSQ is debatable, FSEQ is barely even debatable at this point).
emotional engagement, creative thinking, mass manipulation, acting skills, concealment goes to light imo. even though I totally agree with koji winning the diff seems too low for me. I dont have anything to backup this statement but light did pull off some really good feats.
@RipSenpai2711 Would have agreed with EE to Light prior to Y2V12, creative thinking to Light is fair imo. Light may have manipulated more people on a wider scale as both Kira and then as L, but one partially relied on the Death Note and the later on L's preexisting influence which Light took over. Kiyotaka's mass manipulation may have affected less people but was more intricate and impressive and he did so without influence or a Death Note. For acting Kiyotaka has his Y1V1-3 feats and even after that 90% of his screen time, even that we see, he is his acting to the point where only people he has chosen to reveal himself to can even percieve that his usual persona is an act. Even Maezono was surprised in Y2V12 when confronted with Kiyo's true self, despite catching a glimpse of his true self in Y2V5 and being given extra details by Hashimoto. So acting skills to Kiyotaka is probably fair, especially as he created an entire fake persona from scratch and has evolved it to become more natural to the point it is nearly impossible to distinguish. And concealment is arguably one of Kiyotaka's strongest deception categories with his feats during MTC, arguably all throughout his 14 years in WR, during rumour spreading in Y1V9, etc.
After reading the Light Novel, I realized that there are certain ''conveniences'' Conveniences (Or plot armor) in Classroom Of The Elite that prove the characters aren't that smart (Including Ayanokoji Kiyotaka): Ryuuen and Katsuragi didn't realise class 1-D could change leader at island exam, Ibuki had beaten that poor girl. The same Suzune hadn't read the rules. Ryuuen, Horikita and Katsuragi not reading the rules of the Y1 island exam, Nobody in class 1-D wondered why on earth Ibuki stayed island after class C suppsosedly dropped out 1st special test. Any average person would note Ibuki have no reason to stay, class C had lost all 300 points, Ibuki had 0 benefits for staying. The mere presence of Karuizawa at school (lmao her parents let her go alone at a school where they wouldn't know about her during years , and she had suffered of vicious bullyin9 before), Ryuuen just deciding not to obtain all possible class points in the vip exam, nobody realising (not even Ayanokouji) there was a way to achieve the result 1 of the vip exam without risks, Ichinose deciding to make her move at the last moments of vip exam, Kushida not telling Ryuuen that Kiyotaka knew she was the traitor of class 1-d, Yukimura not realising Kiyotaka is "very smart" despite having been manipulated by Ayano during vip exam, Ryuuen choosing to make the 2 options given by Ayanokouji for no reason before the papper shuffle (one of them was enough). Ichinose not realising Kaneda was a spy during island exam despite being supposedly "very percetive and smart"; Ishizaki, Kondou and Komiya being too idiots for not corroborating the no presence of cameras while provoking Sudo… If anyone knows how to explain these conveniences (Or plot armor), I'm willing to talk (Respectfully).
Ichinose is too kind by nature and most likely did not even include the option that the person in trouble would turn out to be a spy (He actually did not do anything suspicious and can be safely believed) And Ishizaki really a little dump but there were no cameras there and horikita and koji faked them, ishizaki simply followed ryuen’s instructions and he has no observation skills
1: This point was not explained> Ryuuen and Katsuragi didn't realize that class 1-D could change leaders in the island exam. Suzune herself didn't read the rules properly. 2: Yes, Ibuki left for the ship on the 6th. But everyone from class C (with the exception of Ryuen, Kaneda and Ibuki) went to the boat on the 4th. That is, in this 2-day interval, no one from class D he realized that Ibuki and Kaneda had no reason to stay on the island. Any ordinary person would notice that Ibuki had no reason to stay, class C had lost all 300 points, Ibuki had no benefit from staying, the same goes for Kaneda. Regarding Ichinose, it's the same problem. Kaneda shouldn't have had a reason to stay on the island after the 4th, he could have left. Even if Ichinose is kind, and even if Kaneda was really in trouble, he could have gone on the boat like everyone else in class C. 3: Regarding Yukimura, I was really stupid here. Yukimura didn't know about Kiyotaka's plan, they just exchanged cell phones, nothing more. So really, Yukimura had no way of knowing that Ayanokoji is very intelligent. 4: Even though Ishizaki and the others are just following orders, they also don't want to be expelled. So much so that they prefer to disobey Ryuen, rather than be expelled for the Bluff that Ayanokoji and Horikita performed. No observation skills are required, it is extremely simple. When anyone does something wrong, checking if anyone is watching or if there are cameras is something very basic. In other words, even if Ishizaki really is an idiot, the plot armor made them not check if there are security cameras, as Ayanokoji's plan necessarily happened for the continuation of the story. 5: If Kushida had told Ryuen about the fact that Ayanokoji knew she was a traitor, it would have made it easier for Ryuen and Kushida to expel Horikita and Ayanokoji, and made Ryuen more cautious. Perhaps the fact that Ayanokoji is X would be discovered by Ryuen. Plot Armor. 6: This point was not explained > Ryuuen simply deciding not to get all possible class points in the VIP exam. 7: This point was not explained > No one realized (not even Ayanokoji) that there was a risk-free way to achieve VIP exam result 1. 8: This point was not explained > Ichinose deciding to make her move in the last moments of the VIP exam. 9: This point was not explained > Ryuuen choosing to do the 2 options given by Ayanokouji for no reason before the paper shuffle (one of them would be enough). If the explanations show that the characters are ‘’Dumbs’’, then maybe Ayanokoji isn’t that smart after all. But of course, I could be completely wrong.
Here's some of the worse take youve gave to koji it's many more I'm not biased but i want to make it fair. Acting skill 💀 Direct manipulation💀 Logical manipulation💀Creative 💀Abductive reasoning💀Mass manipulation💀Emotional manipulation💀 lastly the worse one Intuition💀💀💀💀💀
At least it is more justified than that edit of Light manga chapter 18 beats Ayanokoji year 2 volume 10 high diff. Also Ayanokoji is direct manipulation in my opinion is a bit overlooked and underestimate in the SCD community. His feats of directly manipulating karuizawa in volume 4 year 1, and of Nanase in year 2 volume 3. He was able to change Nanase is opinion of him from hatred to guilty for being deceived by Tsukihiro in a couple of times. And make both of them pawn in his arsenal
And for emotional manipulation he has the feats of manipulating emotionally Ichinose honami to recover from her lose in the final exam of the first year and end fall in love for him. Breaking the emotional barrier of Sakayanagi after her lose in the dropout exam easily and pinpoint her errors so she can evolved from here. Confront Hirata after his breakdown and change his idealistic mindset along his negative state with only one conversation. Profits and understand Sakura airi is nature in the class pool of year 2 by using her feelings of compassion and weaknesses, knowing that if the class lose the pool exam at that moment any chance of reaching class A would be gone so wouldn't be able to support being the reason of it. She would be than pushed to willingly go with his logical and impartial proposition of expelling her being the student with the lowest OAA and the smallest social circle. And that despite the complaints of their friends. We can also consider his manipulation of Nanase emotional since he redirect her hatred feeling toward her former allies, healing her trauma of loosing Eijiro her childhood friend and making her allie. And there is surely more that I overlooked like with Karuizawa and Ryuen.
Why did you gave actig skills to ayanokoji. I do agree with the outcome. Light was really very lucky from the beginning but i think he has got better acting skills
Explain me: Did you watch death note with your ass or ayanokoji got buff in y2v12? I need to ask what the hell is this take. Because in manipulation and eq light is greater than ayanokoji
Yes Ayanokouji got buffs in Y2V12 but he slammed Light before any of them. In Emotional Intelligence this hasn't been close for a long time and while Koji got a buff in EF in the most recent volume, he was taking it from Light before that. As for Manipulation, Koji also definitely takes from Light too. So instead of asking if I read DN with my ass, try reading COTE with your eyes open and you will find the numerous feats which scale well above Light.
I think you underestimated light, well according to my take Ayanokoji can beat Imagay in extreme diff. Koji takes FSIQ and Imagay takes FSEQ and FSSQ so as leadership and planning coverages and strategy.
Y2V12 arguably buffed Koji above Light in FSEQ and FSSQ. Leadership can go to Light because he has more feats in it, though it is close in indirect leadership. Y2V12 also made his Y1V9 feat, which already rivalled or arguably surpassed Light in planning coverage even better to the point that it surpasses Light. And Koji has taken strategy over Light for a while now, especially with things such as CTS.
@@SraAkkk Every single category hits damn hard bc the the points of Fseq and Sq + overall Manipulation. If your willing to debate we can contribute on feats..
Soon TrashKoji (I hate Koji honestly)will no diff TG + DN + CG + Fiction + Real Life in this channel, trush me, then Koji will omniscient and no diff all of our multiverse, create a better social media than facebook, be a better footballer than Lionel Messi, invents as much as Thomas Edison and richer than 1000 Elon Musk😂😢 W edit Also, Koji > mid diff(+)
@@Ananyasingh06150 wait, I just missed some of his feats - no diff Michael Jordan in basketball - no diff pep guardiola in football tactics - make a weapon stronger x100000 than nuclear weapon - no diff Novak Djokovic in Tennis - becoming a leader in a random country and he will make that country more economic developed than america - No concept or diff (-) Usogui + Kaitani verse while he was no eye, limbs and use only half of his brain - 0.000000000001 second old Koji will no diff BB + Light - Make better AI than Chat GPT - writing the strongest, best written and smartest fiction in the universe
Arguably this is what makes Ayanokoji stronger, every volume drop he just becomes stronger
1. He reveals more of what he can do.
2. He adapts very well
Spoiler:
Ayanokoji adapts to his environment really well, the reason why Tsukishiro was sent there was not to assess Ayanokoji but the test his abilities because they believe that Ayanokoji has been released the outside world he can use this.
Ever since he went outside the whiteroom he just kept adapting beyond education that was given to him
Yes, it's true, but I still want to say, Tsukishiro, Shiba, Prime Minister of Japan, Father Ayanokoji, intelligence agencies, Government of Japan and Japan itself, nothing compared to Ayanokoji
@@Ddadadag__52 Very true, once Ayanokoji gets a grasps of being free he will become like Johan or CTW L
@@TBTexts In my opinion, he is now at the level of Johan in terms of intelligence, but when he frees himself and unleashes his full potential, I hope that he will be at the level of Baku, Soichi, Fedor, Dazai, Sora (still he adapts so well that being one of the weakest in the white room, he surpassed everyone, becoming the strongest and smartest)
It’s like ANHS was an introductory course on socialization for him, because now it will only be that much easier for him to succeed in the real world.
@@TBTextsin terms of pure outsmarting, ayanokoji since y2v6 is already above johan and canon L
Edgy kid emo kid vs gay of the new world
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I finally had enough free time to edit lol
W edit and Take
Koji Y2V12 is insane
What changed in Y2V12?
he defeated Ichinose? Lmao
You Koji fanboys always say that after every volume even when he does something that we all know he could do
@@QP82EKSL Y2V12 is the best volume in the entire Y2
@@QP82EKSLHave you read v12 dude?If you didn’t then don’t talk
@@Dadashov007
He probably not
( bet )
@@Dadashov007 i have read year 3 already
Koenji is gonna make you Ayanokoji fans salty
W edit + Accurate diff imo
Prediction: Koji low-mid diffs.
Very close.
W Distribution And Edit.
lmao
@doghangerlight 👽
It's obvious, considering that Ayanokoji is a character made to be perfect in every sense, but that's easy. On the other hand, Light is a character made with a deeper concept, he's good precisely because he's imperfect, and with those flaws, is better.
@pablolucics.5699 I mean, I feel as though you've misunderstood Kiyotaka's character. Kiyotaka being a flawed human being is literally a main theme in COTE, why do you think Chabashira mentioned that he was the most defective student in all ANHS like 3 times, even WR instructors called Kiyotaka flawed and not in line with their visions, despite his position as the masterpiece of the WR.
@@xandercrow3400 Good point, too, even though I was talking about the absurdity of the comparison hahahaha.
@@xandercrow3400 agree
Saying light is anywhere near as deep as Ayanokoji as a character is ridiculous
Now days, matching again koji become as much difficult as surviving in AOT
My guy was scared to use CTW Light
I have a CTW Light vs Takuya edit for I'm really not...
Perfection. W edit, and the take? Chef's fucking kiss. Beautiful. Every category distribution was immaculate. Koji may take Leadership, but Light just has more feats in that category. Otherwise, truly perfect. Holy W Hunt, you are one of the best Kouji scalers ever.
Thanks fr
Prediction: Koji no diffs (as he should)
Beatiful edition! Perfect take 😎
W edit + fax
I don't need to know this take because I'm always knew bout this fr,W take bro
W edit+Imo its Mid Diff But EE Should go to the light its his best category in Eq,
EE is not Light's best EQ category, it's either EP or EU imo. The claim that Light's drive to create a better world by killing criminals is strong EE is flatly wrong so unless there is another EE feat which you think is stronger than Koji engaging his emotions to survive the 4th generation curriculum then I have no clue have you have Light taking. Since I have seen this argument for Light's EE many times before I'll explain quickly why it isn't EE at all.
Light's actual motivation to create a better world isn't what's driving him after he first uses the notebook. Literally as soon as he used the notebook for the first time he is already showing signs of it corrupting his mind. He wants to be the god of the new world but it wasn't actually to make the world a better place, it was he felt a "divine" urge to give himself an excuse to use the notebook. It's literally the Notebook's influence from the beginning. This becomes crystal clear when we see Light without his memories in the ML arc and that so called "drive" to change the world is gone. It is a byproduct of the Notebook's influence and part of what makes Light a fantastically written character. So his drive to use the Notebook to change the world isn't EE since Light isn't engaging his own emotions to do anything, he acting more and more under the influence of the Notebook.
@@TheHuntsman1001wait, isn't just that Koji was compel to do work in WR?
How can you consider a compulsive work "EE"?When you never want to do it?
w edit and take brodie
I could count the number of points Light took in one hand 😭 🙏🏻
Prediction: Koji Low diffs (-). Pin if im right🗣️
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Bro was right😭
Bro is right😂
Bro is acting as if he didn't know beforehand 🤫
W edit
I assume you disagreed with the take?
@@jackthezodiac6136 I have koji mid diff (-)
I have Yamauchi mid diffing you(-)
@@QP82EKSL I have ike no diffing you
W edit + Fax 🍷🐐.
Just gotta remind 😌
Leadership and Influence Building to Ayanokoji.
'Indirect' leadership and influence building
@@barnabhaghosh3576 Nah. Y2V5 exists.
@@Ray-pk7fe y2v5 is not leadership just persuasion and even if it's right Light still negs
Good joke. Koji only has influence on his class and class A and Arisu's because she wants his penis. Light destroys him in influencer building because many of his contacts are not than a combination of circumstances. Light slams in both
@@matsonlouco2883 youre right building influence and leardership is literally goes to Yagami Light but still Ayanokoji Low Diffs (-/+++++)
perfect take and edit
However, it may be useful to give intuition to LIGHT🧐
W edit and take
W take dear huntsy, I still have it at low-mid for now, let's see how will it change upon further analysis 😈
also it's nice to see u finally uploaded again fr !
Hey Gaby,hru man,I hope you're doing fine
W edit + Plus W diff 🐐🗿🥂
Which Feat you using for Fabrication and Sophistry?
Hey Huntsy, pls where can I get the Ayanokoji standing against the blue moon animation
I can share on disc. Just DM me.
@@TheHuntsman1001 drop your cord
@@tobiuchiha77 TheHuntsman1001
@@TheHuntsman1001 request sent, my username is baku_73
peak take, W
W edit
Acting skills, EF few little things to Light
Diff is probably low-mid(-)
Acting Skills is close but I have Koji taking. EF is not really debatable imo Light is really not strong here, Koji definitely takes. Low/Mid (-) is a very acceptable take compared to most of SCD but in all honestly I just don't believe the diff is that high. Koji gaps in most categories.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Yeah I agree, Koji vs Light isn't close
Great Edit and Take. I don't want to ask about Diff because I consider it Valid.
I'd like to ask about two other things, why does Koji takes Intuition and Mass Manipulation?(I haven't read the last volume, but I don't remember great feats either.) And why does Light take Leadership?(Ayanokoji seems a bit higher in this to me.).
Thanks fr. Intuition is quite close and give it to Light is probably valid. As for Mass Manipulation Light is essentially featless aside from his use of the Notebook. Ayanokouji takes for his manipulation of the class leaders and the class competition. You could also use Rumor mail feat as he used it to directly manipulate all 4 class leaders and the school officials with it. I don't believe mass manipulation is inherently better by manipulating more people at once, rather I value better manipulation of multiple people or a group more than manipulating more people.
For leadership, Light just has more feats imo. His leadership of the task force as L is enough for him to take since Ayanokouji's feats are much more akin to manipulation from the shadows and information control rather than traditional leadership.
@@TheHuntsman1001intuition can easily go to ayanokouji because of vol 0 cry stop feat + that sentence about why he didn't cry
I have a question
Why does light take influence building Isn't he practically featless in that?
@gotnw any introvert with above avg intelligence with death note could do the same shit
I am saying that without death note +
I didn't even asked the question to you so why are you answering?
Thanks fr🦆🥂@@TheHuntsman1001
To clarify, Influence building doesn’t value result as much as you think. The whole point of scaling it instead of just influence is for that reason. While I don’t think Light slams here by any means, Koji prefers to utilize the influence of others more than building his own so I have it to Light for his greater number of feats.
Also, I don't see any reason why koji Mass Manip (Rumour Strike) is rated so highly. Rumour Strike is so easy to think, like...Just spread some bad rumour about other class student and then they fight each other, lmao, Even I can think and do that with koji resource(while I think that using death note to building a god figure is harder to think and form)
And just to mention that Koji is my victim in Social Engineering(He only take Aura, Charisma is close)
@@Kaikoridid you read LN cote?If you not president,you get clapped
@@РамисИльдарович I heard that he persuade Kiriyama in order to get him to spread rumours, which is somehow good in Persuasion, but mid asf in Mass Manip and my victim in Mass manip still
@@Kaikori OMG,you are you that same schoolboy who thinks everyone else is a tools and in reality you are just manipulating them?)
@@РамисИльдарович no, but I can spread some rumours and then manip random class to attack random class like Koji did. Also in class I am literally Nagumo fr fr
W for not overrating Light
Very good edition. Could you explain to me Ayanokoji's greatest feat of trap setup, including the number of layers?
His best trap setting feat is likely the love letter strategy used to trap Takuya. I’m not sure exactly how many layers it has since I haven’t done a full analysis of that myself.
Can I know the cold reading feats of Koji.
In and before y2v12
Before Y2V12 was Nagumo Old Maid feat where while Nagumo was using the games for the sole purpose of evaluating Koji after learning that Manabu respected him. Instead Koji was able to conceal any information about himself while using Nagumo's information gathering attempts to read him instead. From just those games, Koji was able to understand Nagumo's personality and tendencies and anticipate his MTC actions including that Manabu would lose the bet.
In Y2V12, his feat involved reading all 14 group participants during the EoY exam. After his manipulation of Ichinose they started a new round with a new group of students. Through the monitor, during their short discussion Koji was able to find both Honor students from pure cold reading/observation. This was similar to what Kouenji did during the Zodiac exam in Y1V4 but much better because Koji was reading a larger group of people, and he wasn't even in the room. He was watching on a monitor. Even still he was able to easily cold read everyone to find both honor students. Also, it's important to note that he observed the entire group through a single monitor so there was no close up view of anyone, it would be showing the entire group at once making an attempt to cold read them much harder.
For another comp, we can compare this to the Yotsuba arc of Death Note. This would be similar to if L or Light had been able to identity Kira from just watching the first discussion, although even if they had this was a larger group of people Ayanokouji observed and identified 2 people out of them, not just 1.
Honestly my fav edit rn
Try souichi kiruma vs koji full scale
After reading Usogui I probably will
Bet Hal is gonna destroy low diff.
Hal Will low Diff After Y2V12
w edit, w take
imo it's a bit lower at very low diff (-)
Does Ayanokoji take planning because of the Ichinose manipulation feat or is it because of something else?
The Ichinose manipulation is good planning but he was above Light in planning before that.
How high does Koji scale after Y2V12 + analysis on his feats now?
He raised it so much that he surpassed Akiyama.
@@AboodObidat let's goooo
@@AboodObidat Fr?
@JessieJames1 Idk about that, but it's definitely close, Y2V12 basically buffed every category related to outsmarting for Koji.
Certainly I have Koji high-very high Aki now after V12,so he's above Aki definitely rn tho for me
What is your take about :
koji vs light novel
Koji anime vs Light Novel?
@@TheHuntsman1001 koji novel vs light novel
Y2V11 Koji vs Y2V12 Koji
What would be the diff in your opinion?
Y2V12 had solid buffs for Koji mainly in Emotional Intelligence, Cold Reading, Foresight, and Planning. That being said those buffs aren't massive compared to his overall scaling imo. So Y2V12 > Y2V11 Koji High Diff (+). He got solid buffs in some key categories but his best feats in most categories are from before Y2V12.
@@TheHuntsman1001Well Yep, I agree
I found out that Dax completely beat Loy in the PMH debate. What arguments did he use to beat Loy? Was the issue of Occam's Razor also addressed or did the debate go in a different direction?
So PMH is completely valid now,right?
Loy's main attempt to debunk PMH via Occam's Razor was that heuristics (mental shortcuts or cues) would trigger when Koji sees Arisu. In that case they should trigger any memory of her and since they don't he should know that he has never met her. This was the main crux of Loy's point and Dax completely dismantled it. If you want to check this out for yourself the debate has it's own channel in Red Dragon. But Dax pointed out
1. Heuristics can't account for Koji's definitive knowledge that he has no memory of Arisu whatsoever since by definition heuristics are not completely accurate
2. Since Koji has never met Arisu heuristics can't even occur and Loy's original premise was that Koji could use these heuristics/retrieval cues to search for Arisu and you can't have retrieval cues for non-existent memories. Loy backtracked in his following response and changed to saying that a lack of retrieval cues would confirm to Koji that he has no memory of Arisu but that was also false and an concession of his original point due to abandoning it via backtrack.
3. Memory cues are an involuntary form of memory recall and Koji doesn't have involuntary memory recall so this alone disproved Loy's entire argument. All of Koji's memory recall is entirely conscious.
4. Dax also showed another time in Y2V11 where Koji mentioned searching all his memories of his school life (Y2V11) which not on the same level as PMH it does satisfy Loy's (technically unreasonable and not needed) claim of ECREE.
I just tried to summarize all of Dax's points in a few sentences so if you want more information I suggest checking out the debate channel. But in conclusion Dax showed that Loy was misapplying Occam's Razor in his main premise (which was the same argument he used to beat me in our debate so Dax avenged my loss) and showed that Loy's interpretation was impossible.
Yes, even after debating Loy I didn't believe he had actually debunked PMH but after his debate with Dax it was certainly been completely validated now. Since Loy used the same premise in both his PMH debates and Dax completely dismantled it (since he is a much better debater than I am) Loy's debunk was disproven completely.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Glad to know 🗣
Prediction: Koji very low diffs 🙂↕️
Yo Canon mori level prediction goat
W
yeah right low diff (-) or very low diff
Fukunaga victim
amazing edit, I'd say koji high diffs probably
You really killed me when you gave Acting skills to Koji.Amd ovr deception to him.I really loved this edit.But the take Nah.Its not less then Mid-High diff.Why so Low in diff?
Koji takes overall deception without much difficulty tbh. He slams in Concealment, Misdirection, and Fabrication. I have acting skills to Koji for his false persona and emotionless persona acting.
For the overall diff, I realize Low Diff seems extreme but it is based off all the COTE analysis for the Koji doc I have been a part of. Koji literally slams in most categories and still clears in essentially everything else. Social Intelligence is the closest category between them and Koji honestly takes it.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Well I already commented an essay.But it got nuked because of the connection.But that Fake persona acting is Useless.Koji was already emotionless From the WR.And About your SQ part.SQ is mainly Social skills and charisma rather then adaptibily Bruh.Light also shines there.BTW you think Koji doc will buff him to Baku level
@@Blazeinferno1000 So the main thing I need to point out is that you seem to be under a MAJOR misconception regarding Ayanokouji. He is in no way emotionless. His appearance as such is just EM and acting skills. Koji verbatim confirms as such toward the end of V0 in a monologue :
"I sat alone in the quiet car and looked at the view outside the window.
"What’s it like to be outside for the first time?" "Nothing."
It’s not that I wasn’t curious. It’s just that I don’t feel anything, at least nothing I can call or an emotional response to.
"Nothing, huh?"
My father had probably thought so. That I was looking out the window without emotions. That I probably couldn’t distinguish the difference between the virtual world and reality now. That was a big mistake. It’s just easier to let people think everything’s under control. At least for now, it’s beneficial for me to keep it that way. There was no need for this to know that I was always sharpening my fangs."
He literally says that he is making his father think he doesn't possess emotions, but that is an incorrect assessment on his father's part.
Fake persona acting is also NOT useless, it shows his ability to create an entire persona and embody it at will. The persona is so complete that Koji even established false memories, which emotional triggers, associated with his persona. Even someone with exceptional cold reading skills studying his false persona wouldn't find anything unusual.
For Social Intelligence the categories I use are
Social Engineering: The act of using social situations and conversation to gain information or exert influence.
Influence Building: Literally your ability to increase and expand your influence and control through intelligence/social ability. Established influence is irrelevant.
Leadership: Self explanatory
Resource Management: Your ability to efficiently and effectively utilize the resources available to your in terms of other people's strengths/weaknesses. Your ability to effectively manage other people.
Social Integration: (Didn't appear in the edit but Koji takes) Your ability to integrate yourself into a new environment and ability to adapt to new social circumstances. (False persona slams here)
Charisma and "Social Skills" are not categories for Social Intelligence since neither one measure a form of intelligence.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Let me make this straight.You either use statements to buff your Character who is your favorite.Or you just undermine the others due to first guy having more feats.I am talking about On screen feats here not statements.And I scale by that TBH.I really think you need to rescale Light.This is just undermining him and overrating Koji as Shit.I agree deception is close.But Social intelligence or SQ isn't.Thanks for responding.You guys make Koji look like a god.Which makes Non Koji scalers troll and Make mocking edits.Suit yourselves.I am not into Debating anymore
Have a good day.I hope my explanation wasn't to hasty
Can you explain how koji takes acting skills and overall planning cause I thought light is better in this categories + W edit+take
i want to know too how koji takes it
Lights planning is very risky at times. Not sure about acting tho. Ayanokoji can't act emotions well.
@@cuzwhou342Light takes planning. His planning isn't risky
Literally he had 4 contingencies mapping out the possible situations and even anticipated the strategy CTW L uses to counter films light, avoiding it
Maybe because of him fabricating an entire personality and decieving everyone in the 1st 4 volumes
@4slp825 This isn't CTW Light, though, so his feats against CTW L don't matter.
Also Memory Loss was risky, so were a couple of his other plans but memory loss was the most so, yes he had a couple of contingencies in place in case things went wrong, but 1) they didn’t account for everything and 2) those contingencies do result in him not being discovered to be Kira but at the same time, those contingencies prevent him from becoming Kira again afterwards and thus don't achieve his actual goals.
Light is NOT nagumo level my man
W edit but the take is respectfully a disaster
wait. what happened?
Why is Koji so smart now?
Koji LN is really smart tbf,are you an anime online,because Koji's feats certainly busted in LN right now tbh
@@Hariz362 how much busted? I'm know only some...
His foresight and planning get buffed a lot,his SQ too,like example,Koji only the rules the exam and see it far ahead on how it'll goes
It isn’t about how just V12 buffed Koji an insane amount. It’s a culmination of the analysis of his LN feats up to this point which has been continuously worked on.
Essentially like you said bro,Koji's feats became a much more and it'll continue like this until Y3 too
Where are those koji animation from🔥🔥🔥
Which one?
That red one from the first points
@@TheHuntsman1001 crazy animations
Koji mid diffs imo, and Logical manip, Mass manip, emotional manip, Emotional Engagement, and Prediction to light everything else is goated
I will disagree with Light taking any of these categories.
Logical Manipulation - Certainly goes to Koji, Light has good showings in feats such as ML or his final plan but this is outclassed by Koji in both X strategy (mainly Y1V6 section) or Love Letter.
Mass Manipulation - Light is actually weak here without the use of the notebook, this goes to Koji for Rumor Mail or Love Letter
Emotional Manipulation isn't even close - Koji slams via Hirata Manipulation Y1V7, Kei from Y1V4 (weakest of the 3), or Ichinose Y2V12)
Emotional Engagement - Koji slams here and it isn't close either. Koji's drive to survive and surpass the 4th gen in the WR and his false persona feats easily clear. Also note that Light did NOT engage himself to drive himself to write names in the notebook. This is a common misconception and contradicts DN's narrative and Light's actions during his ML arc.
Prediction is also not close imo - Y1V6 conversation prediction, UVE 5th question are far more complex than anything Light has done and things like Ichinose downfall which he predicted all the way back in early Y1 far exceed him in prediction length. So Koji slams badly in foresight.
Glad you enjoyed and agreed with everything else though
@@TheHuntsman1001 we all have separate opinions and ours aren’t that far apart and I agree
@@TheHuntsman1001 Hirata manipulation is volume 11 not volume 7, or maybe I am wrong
Goated edit but i think light wins extreme diff in nfs
Koji wins mid diff in fixed situation
This take has to be a troll 😂😂
Read Y2 V12
This is a real take
W + banger edit 🍷 ngl.
But kinda disagreed with take.
im first
I'm second
I'm third
as a cote lover, I would say light takes more categories and koji high diffs or lower imo
Brother, have you read volume 12? It has been uploaded From Ayanokouji a lot
I mean, Light can maybe take intuition and creativity, but not exactly sure what else you think he can take. FSEQ and FSSQ are debatable at best and leaning in favour of Kiyotaka, especially after Y2V12 (more so FSSQ is debatable, FSEQ is barely even debatable at this point).
Like what categories do you think Light takes?
emotional engagement, creative thinking, mass manipulation, acting skills, concealment goes to light imo.
even though I totally agree with koji winning the diff seems too low for me. I dont have anything to backup this statement but light did pull off some really good feats.
@RipSenpai2711 Would have agreed with EE to Light prior to Y2V12, creative thinking to Light is fair imo.
Light may have manipulated more people on a wider scale as both Kira and then as L, but one partially relied on the Death Note and the later on L's preexisting influence which Light took over. Kiyotaka's mass manipulation may have affected less people but was more intricate and impressive and he did so without influence or a Death Note.
For acting Kiyotaka has his Y1V1-3 feats and even after that 90% of his screen time, even that we see, he is his acting to the point where only people he has chosen to reveal himself to can even percieve that his usual persona is an act. Even Maezono was surprised in Y2V12 when confronted with Kiyo's true self, despite catching a glimpse of his true self in Y2V5 and being given extra details by Hashimoto. So acting skills to Kiyotaka is probably fair, especially as he created an entire fake persona from scratch and has evolved it to become more natural to the point it is nearly impossible to distinguish.
And concealment is arguably one of Kiyotaka's strongest deception categories with his feats during MTC, arguably all throughout his 14 years in WR, during rumour spreading in Y1V9, etc.
W acting is debatable
After reading the Light Novel, I realized that there are certain ''conveniences''
Conveniences (Or plot armor) in Classroom Of The Elite that prove the characters aren't that smart (Including Ayanokoji Kiyotaka):
Ryuuen and Katsuragi didn't realise class 1-D could change leader at island exam, Ibuki had beaten that poor girl. The same Suzune hadn't read the rules. Ryuuen, Horikita and Katsuragi not reading the rules of the Y1 island exam, Nobody in class 1-D wondered why on earth Ibuki stayed island after class C suppsosedly dropped out 1st special test. Any average person would note Ibuki have no reason to stay, class C had lost all 300 points, Ibuki had 0 benefits for staying. The mere presence of Karuizawa at school (lmao her parents let her go alone at a school where they wouldn't know about her during years , and she had suffered of vicious bullyin9 before), Ryuuen just deciding not to obtain all possible class points in the vip exam, nobody realising (not even Ayanokouji) there was a way to achieve the result 1 of the vip exam without risks, Ichinose deciding to make her move at the last moments of vip exam, Kushida not telling Ryuuen that Kiyotaka knew she was the traitor of class 1-d, Yukimura not realising Kiyotaka is "very smart" despite having been manipulated by Ayano during vip exam, Ryuuen choosing to make the 2 options given by Ayanokouji for no reason before the papper shuffle (one of them was enough). Ichinose not realising Kaneda was a spy during island exam despite being supposedly "very percetive and smart"; Ishizaki, Kondou and Komiya being too idiots for not corroborating the no presence of cameras while provoking Sudo…
If anyone knows how to explain these conveniences (Or plot armor), I'm willing to talk (Respectfully).
It seems that you only watch anime 🤔
didn’t Ibuki leave for the ship on day 6? And doesn’t Yukimura still know that Kiyotaka wasn’t a VIP? I read it a few years ago, maybe I forgot
Ichinose is too kind by nature and most likely did not even include the option that the person in trouble would turn out to be a spy (He actually did not do anything suspicious and can be safely believed)
And Ishizaki really a little dump but there were no cameras there and horikita and koji faked them, ishizaki simply followed ryuen’s instructions and he has no observation skills
About Kushida she only wanted Horikita to be expelled and after Koji ,she really wants to help her class but no Kiyo and Hori
1: This point was not explained> Ryuuen and Katsuragi didn't realize that class 1-D could change leaders in the island exam. Suzune herself didn't read the rules properly.
2: Yes, Ibuki left for the ship on the 6th. But everyone from class C (with the exception of Ryuen, Kaneda and Ibuki) went to the boat on the 4th. That is, in this 2-day interval, no one from class D he realized that Ibuki and Kaneda had no reason to stay on the island. Any ordinary person would notice that Ibuki had no reason to stay, class C had lost all 300 points, Ibuki had no benefit from staying, the same goes for Kaneda. Regarding Ichinose, it's the same problem. Kaneda shouldn't have had a reason to stay on the island after the 4th, he could have left. Even if Ichinose is kind, and even if Kaneda was really in trouble, he could have gone on the boat like everyone else in class C.
3: Regarding Yukimura, I was really stupid here. Yukimura didn't know about Kiyotaka's plan, they just exchanged cell phones, nothing more. So really, Yukimura had no way of knowing that Ayanokoji is very intelligent.
4: Even though Ishizaki and the others are just following orders, they also don't want to be expelled. So much so that they prefer to disobey Ryuen, rather than be expelled for the Bluff that Ayanokoji and Horikita performed. No observation skills are required, it is extremely simple. When anyone does something wrong, checking if anyone is watching or if there are cameras is something very basic. In other words, even if Ishizaki really is an idiot, the plot armor made them not check if there are security cameras, as Ayanokoji's plan necessarily happened for the continuation of the story.
5: If Kushida had told Ryuen about the fact that Ayanokoji knew she was a traitor, it would have made it easier for Ryuen and Kushida to expel Horikita and Ayanokoji, and made Ryuen more cautious. Perhaps the fact that Ayanokoji is X would be discovered by Ryuen. Plot Armor.
6: This point was not explained > Ryuuen simply deciding not to get all possible class points in the VIP exam.
7: This point was not explained > No one realized (not even Ayanokoji) that there was a risk-free way to achieve VIP exam result 1.
8: This point was not explained > Ichinose deciding to make her move in the last moments of the VIP exam.
9: This point was not explained > Ryuuen choosing to do the 2 options given by Ayanokouji for no reason before the paper shuffle (one of them would be enough).
If the explanations show that the characters are ‘’Dumbs’’, then maybe Ayanokoji isn’t that smart after all. But of course, I could be completely wrong.
Here's some of the worse take youve gave to koji it's many more I'm not biased but i want to make it fair.
Acting skill 💀 Direct manipulation💀 Logical manipulation💀Creative 💀Abductive reasoning💀Mass manipulation💀Emotional manipulation💀 lastly the worse one Intuition💀💀💀💀💀
logical manipulation, emotional manipulation, mass manipulation, acting skills is not that bad
At least it is more justified than that edit of Light manga chapter 18 beats Ayanokoji year 2 volume 10 high diff.
Also Ayanokoji is direct manipulation in my opinion is a bit overlooked and underestimate in the SCD community.
His feats of directly manipulating karuizawa in volume 4 year 1, and of Nanase in year 2 volume 3.
He was able to change Nanase is opinion of him from hatred to guilty for being deceived by Tsukihiro in a couple of times.
And make both of them pawn in his arsenal
And for emotional manipulation he has the feats of manipulating emotionally Ichinose honami to recover from her lose in the final exam of the first year and end fall in love for him.
Breaking the emotional barrier of Sakayanagi after her lose in the dropout exam easily and pinpoint her errors so she can evolved from here.
Confront Hirata after his breakdown and change his idealistic mindset along his negative state with only one conversation.
Profits and understand Sakura airi is nature in the class pool of year 2 by using her feelings of compassion and weaknesses, knowing that if the class lose the pool exam at that moment any chance of reaching class A would be gone so wouldn't be able to support being the reason of it. She would be than pushed to willingly go with his logical and impartial proposition of expelling her being the student with the lowest OAA and the smallest social circle. And that despite the complaints of their friends.
We can also consider his manipulation of Nanase emotional since he redirect her hatred feeling toward her former allies, healing her trauma of loosing Eijiro her childhood friend and making her allie.
And there is surely more that I overlooked like with Karuizawa and Ryuen.
bro is delusional
creative is the only think that arguable here Lil bro
@@SraAkkk You are not Ayanokoji
Stop fanboying you Yamauchi victim
Why did you gave actig skills to ayanokoji. I do agree with the outcome. Light was really very lucky from the beginning but i think he has got better acting skills
Combination of false persona feat and WR emotional concealment acting was what I used to scale Koji above
Prediction:Koji low-mid diff
Hot take fr!
Explain me: Did you watch death note with your ass or ayanokoji got buff in y2v12? I need to ask what the hell is this take. Because in manipulation and eq light is greater than ayanokoji
Yes Ayanokouji got buffs in Y2V12 but he slammed Light before any of them. In Emotional Intelligence this hasn't been close for a long time and while Koji got a buff in EF in the most recent volume, he was taking it from Light before that. As for Manipulation, Koji also definitely takes from Light too. So instead of asking if I read DN with my ass, try reading COTE with your eyes open and you will find the numerous feats which scale well above Light.
Bro what is this take
Better than your Light low mid diffing Koji take tbh
@benzyl444i don't think anyone has said that.
Low diff is too low , mid diff at least
I think you underestimated light, well according to my take Ayanokoji can beat Imagay in extreme diff. Koji takes FSIQ and Imagay takes FSEQ and FSSQ so as leadership and planning coverages and strategy.
w but I think koji takes fseq , strategy and high diffs
Y2V12 arguably buffed Koji above Light in FSEQ and FSSQ. Leadership can go to Light because he has more feats in it, though it is close in indirect leadership. Y2V12 also made his Y1V9 feat, which already rivalled or arguably surpassed Light in planning coverage even better to the point that it surpasses Light. And Koji has taken strategy over Light for a while now, especially with things such as CTS.
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Koji takes almost every single category and very low diffs (-)
@@SraAkkk Every single category hits damn hard bc the the points of Fseq and Sq + overall Manipulation. If your willing to debate we can contribute on feats..
@@xandercrow3400 how did Y2V12 buff him above Light? Koji had way better EQ from the beginning thou
koji deletes him tbh
w edit, but acting skills goes to light
W
W huntsman xour one of vest ayanokoji scalers
W take
Prediction koji no to low diffs (koji mid diffs is so last year)
Biggest cap in the history of caps
give your proof kiddo🤡🤡
Prediction: that Koji mid diffs
Crazy take 💀💀💀💀
Kverkill asf
Predict Koji mid-high diff
Wtf is this take 💀
cope it's generous that it isn't no diff
@@greatest21332 average ayanotard fan grow up
@@dino-edits89it's still way better than light fanboys coping mechanism
@@PLUS-ULTRA666 Bro im not even a light fan like that but this take Is just wrong
@@dino-edits89why do you think its wrong?
Yur
Kira fans
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Soon TrashKoji (I hate Koji honestly)will no diff TG + DN + CG + Fiction + Real Life in this channel, trush me, then Koji will omniscient and no diff all of our multiverse, create a better social media than facebook, be a better footballer than Lionel Messi, invents as much as Thomas Edison and richer than 1000 Elon Musk😂😢
W edit
Also, Koji > mid diff(+)
Bud chill lol
@@Ananyasingh06150 wait, I just missed some of his feats
- no diff Michael Jordan in basketball
- no diff pep guardiola in football tactics
- make a weapon stronger x100000 than nuclear weapon
- no diff Novak Djokovic in Tennis
- becoming a leader in a random country and he will make that country more economic developed than america
- No concept or diff (-) Usogui + Kaitani verse while he was no eye, limbs and use only half of his brain
- 0.000000000001 second old Koji will no diff BB + Light
- Make better AI than Chat GPT
- writing the strongest, best written and smartest fiction in the universe
@@Kaikori why you hate my favorite character so much😭
I love akiyama🥺
@@Ananyasingh06150
- making the best crime organization that even Interpol can't find the trace
- no diff Phoenix + Saul in court
@@Kaikori
Hey
I am saying sorry for any of the troubles you had from cote fans
Forgive them
Hating is not worth it
Light wins
I don't even know how he could?
light wins mid diff
Koji extreme diff bro
L Take
Light high diffs BB victim
Bro tries to pull out his best argument😂
Bro read classroom of retarded from wish
W edit man ... ayonokoji ❌ayonog.o.a.t ✅
W edit