@@avndwandwe9811 Koji just genuinely our scales in Emotional Intelligence. He has better EP, ER, EM, EE, and EU. Also while Johan takes EF it is honestly close at this point.
can i know why koji takes EU and EP ? johan is absolotly monter in them , i want ask you more about deception , is the hotest take i've seen btw koji and johan in scd
The take is not hot at all. Ayanokoji has strong EI feats: kei, hirata, ichinose etc... he breakes literally everyone who comes in his way and remember they are not fodders like in the monster anime but geniuses
@@FangYuan-w7e I didn’t read the novel no.The best feat I’ve heard is when he beat a computer that could calculate 20,000,000 moves in a second which would be the same as deep blue the first computer to be made for chess
@@SuperiorEdits755 That feat is probably the most mid feat He has Anyways Checkout some docs then If you can Since both koji and johan have doc Johan doc is better imo but koji doc will also be good so you can find actual feats Koji extreme diffs imo
@@SuperiorEdits755 He has better feats and honestly, you shouldn't comment on his scaling if you haven't even read the novel. Basing your take off anime is like taking only Y1 version of Ayanokouji and nerf it to like its 30-40%.
@@Y-IDC This is happening buddy Cause A character gets a doc full of fanmade headcanon feats and boom He is baku victimiser cause this community has zero critical thinking skill
@@jackthezodiac6136 I have Johan below Lelouch level, but very close. That being said I don't have Koji vs Johan nearly close enough to warrant High Diff or above.
Beautiful edition. Could you explain in detail why you gave EU, Bluffing, Fabrication, Misdirection, Sophistry, Relationship Management, Psychology and Non Fixed Situation to Ayanokoji? And also why did you give EF, Information Control, Trap Setting and Planning Preparation to Johan? (If you could explain each of these points in detail, I would be happy).
Don't even know how he takes EQE or EM (Even Intra-Em) Johan realized that their mother's thought process was, "Which one she didn't really need." So, Johan cherishes Anna after, which is why he says anything can be Anna's when they're young and shit like that. Johan was basically being the mother that they never had, since Johan really assumed that his mother just dumped his sister because she didn't think she needed her like she Johan, so Johan feels entitled to always be a guardian of Anna and aforementioned Cherish, this means eliminating the people that would want to hurt them in any shape or form. Which is why Johan always killed the foster parents, however, he also did where Anna would never know. Because he knows that him and Anna are a very special thing a special bond of sorts. So Johan makes sure that when he kills he does it where she won't be aware of it. Which why Johan distracted Anna from the dead fosters by having her chase him with the flower he had. This is proof because once Anna found out, Johan felt sad, not because he was caught, but because the relationship he had with Annas has now been crushed. So, to make sure she doesn't live with a memory of her brother being a bad guy, she offers her to shoot him in the head. (Johan's broken EQE) (Not done.)
Johan manipulated his captors into releasing him (Most likely even though it just says that he manipulated them, but it said nothing about suicide, you could make that argument though) this is impressive because those are the people that locked him up in Kinderheim because he had the power to kill people with words (Making him that of a monster) so the fact that he manipulated adults (Jailors) into possibly releasing them (Since he manipulated them) is impressive, it's also stated that Johan has superhuman levels of brainwashing, having Richard commit suicide with just words (Which is also broken VCI because for comprehension he had to comprehend the meaning behind the words and how impactful they'll be for a successful suicide manipulation attempt, for similarities it's basically the same thing, as for vocabulary he had to use the right words to instigate a successful suicide, words that'll leave a huge impact on Richard, because Richard is a smart detective in addition to him being led by intuition as well, so for him to get manipulated like that by Johan is insane. Johan's most broken EU moment this is also broken EQE from Johan obviously) Johan in another monster was able to resist sleeping pills at such a young age. In addition to Johan's perfect plan to have Tenma kill him after freeing Anna of all the things that'll bring back her trauma and keep her safe overall, then it was all about eliminating himself, he had to make a choice to eliminate himself just so he could keep protect Anna (Because Johan knows that nothing will be the same after all he's done, so he makes a decision to kill himself, and stray away from his sister Anna, the only light in his world, where he thought only Darkness existed, and Anna was his only Light, and he's literally making a decision that'll make him absent from the love his life (Pause) even though he doesn't necessarily need to (Like he can turn himself in) (That's crazy Stress tolerance, Mental Toughness, Perseverance due to him doing everything that he's ever done in the Manga like killing a lot of people, was just for Anna which also makes it broken Emotional Engagement. Johan also has broken EQE because of his kid days with Anna, because Johan wanted to do everything for Anna, basically being the mother/parent that they never really had, especially since their mother took them apart from each other with no remorse (To an extent at least) this would have Johan make Anna his world (Never parting ways from each other) this is also why Johan killed the foster parents everytime people came into their lives because the monster (Franz Bonaparte) would've found them, so he had to make decision and kill people, and when Anna found out it was over for Johan, basically Johan didn't want Anna to remember him like that (A killer, especially her brother) so Johan wants her to end his life even if that means straying away from the only light in his world. (The only person Johan ever loved in his life) (This broken EQE and Intra-Em on Johan's part, especially when he took the role of the monster from Anna just so Anna wouldn't have to be a monster, because it was Anna that was chosen to be the monster but Johan took that from her.) (That's it for now)
You asked about like half the categories in the edit lol, but I can drill down on some of these if you want. EU - Chabashira's motivations analysis Fabrication - Love Letter or Rumor Strike Misdirection - X Strategy Arc Bluffing - Ryuuen Transaction Sophistry - Ichinose V9 Relationship Management - Hirata and Kei Manipulation Non-Fixed To Ayanokouji due to his better Strategy, Planning, Deception, and LR Planning Prep to Johan due to his general longer timeframe and more in depth planning process Trap Setting and Info Control are both close but I gave to Johan because he has more consistent feats here than Koji. Trap Setting might end up going to Koji after I finish fully analyze his Love Letter strategy. If you have specific questions about certain categories lmk
Whats your opinion on this matchup? IMO : koji mid diffs (-). Johan's manipulation is good but it wont work on koji that effectively. And koji's intelligence will toy with johan so hard. And i have more cats going on koji's side. Whats ur opinion🤔
When making the final diff, is how well each character counters each other considered? Im not sure it's even a real thing, but given Johans proficiency in manipulation and Koji's lack of emotions to be manipulated, could it be argued that Johans is countered and therefore decreasing the diff?
To a degree yes. When I determine a final diff I consider both outscaling and countering as part of it. While I give serious weight to countering it can only change the winner if the matchup is close. If one character vastly outscales the other than countering won't matter as much. In this case, Johan's reliance on emotional manipulation and his lack of an ability to create layered strategies to deceive Koji would lead to Koji countering here as you pointed out. In this case it would lead to Ayanokouji winning with a lower diff than had I not considered countering.
Great edit I liked this one a lot I was wondering if you would ever plan on using usogui chars in your edits? It would be cool to see Ayanokoji vs lalo Hal or Baku
What are the categories you are using? Can you explain them all to me? Some category I see are very confusing, like versatility or overcoming limitations.
There were a ton of categories in this edit (and tbh I used more than normal to fill space in a longer edit) but I can explain the ones you don't understand. Versatility: This refers to a character's ability to tackle different kinds of situations effectively. Having a more diverse skillset and more experience in different situations leads to scaling higher in versatility. For example I rate a character like Yuuichi fairly low in versatility since his skillset is very limited and focused on primarily emotional manipulation and Sophistry/Acting. Compared to someone like Lelouch who would be comparably much more versatile since he has strong strategic skills, reasoning, manipulation and deception as an example. Overcoming Limitations: This is a measure of how well a character performs when in stressful or disadvantages situations. Character's who can overcome obstacles with clever strategy/tactics or other skills scale high here. A good example would be L Lawliet and him having to work from a disadvantageous situation compared to Light since he had no knowledge of the existence of Shinigami, the Death Note etc. while Light was formulating his strategies around having that knowledge. Let me know if there were other categories you didn't understand.
@TheHuntsman1001 i have a question. How you scale strategy and planning example Ayanokoji . i very confusing what is strategy and planning and how you scale Reasoning between Thinking too. Thank you very much♥️
I’d def give trap setting to Ayanokoji due to love letter trap, and preparation process to Ayanokoji too, one of ur comments said Johan’s preparations had a larger timeframe which is true but that doesn’t make it a more quality process of preparations, quite literally everything ayanokoji’s done in year 1 and year 2 has just been preparation for when he finally transfers classes, also what do u define mental fortitude as and why does it go to Ayanokoji? Btw is there any scd character u scale above Ayanokoji and who wins iyo between ayanokoji and manga Tokuchi which ayanokoji takes it imo
Mental fortitude is the strength and resilience of the mind to endure, face, and overcome challenges, stress, or adversity. It involves maintaining focus, composure, and determination, even when confronted with difficult circumstances. Koji kinda slams here tbh, his time in the WR and his ability to not just survive but surpass the curriculum which was above normal human limits and remain completely sane is extremely high mental fortitude. I am reading One Outs currently so I won't comment on Tokuchi yet. As for my top characters in SCD scaling for me is currently CTW or Koji, I am reading Ace's CTW L doc and reevaluating his scaling currently.
Ok Ayano's Emotional/Social Intel feats are great in last volumes but ı think Johan still way better in this catogeries also Ayanokoji no change to cacht Johan Diffs is like insult to Johan
Obviously that is incorrect. Johan has solid emotional intelligence feats but they are a little overblown. When you compare feats between the two characters objectively Koji fairly comfortably clears. If you disagree which EI categories did I give Koji that you think Johan takes? I'd be happy to explain why Koji does in fact take.
@@TheHuntsman1001 in mytson channel you know it's a hybrid wis/scd channel even though it is 90% wis and 10% scd Ofc in that community poll Johan won against Kouji (but again I kind of expected that because most of the voters are from wis). And they can't even put an argument against on how Johan wins against Kouji
@@yazsob8259 Not really sure what you mean lol. Anyway, I don't think Social Integration and Social Engineering should be switched. Johan is better at leveraging Social interactions to gain influence or information (Engineering) and Koji is better at integrating himself and adapting to social situations. (Integration) In fairness they are both very strong in both categories but I have Johan above in Social Engineering and Koji above in Social Integration.
@@TheHuntsman1001 The song in itself is kinda a meme song on TikTok for like “sad boy” emo edits. You can kinda get that by the lyrics as they’re kinda cringe.
i honestly thought so too given how much we been brainwashed by most scd creators giving categories like eq, manipulation, deception to johan because hes just johan but koji's feats in these cats are so underrated sometimes
@@klfcn26 I would agree that his ER is very strong and I have it second to EE. For EE to fully understand some of Koji's EE feats you need to read V0 of the LN as the feats are more impressive in that context so I would recommend doing that. The main EE feat from V0 is Koji engaging himself to surpass the 4th generations curriculum. He was using his own curiosity, desire to learn, and his drive to see how far he could go to push himself beyond ordinary human limits. We see this as Suzukake, the creator of the WR curriculum, directly confirmed that the level 6 curriculum is the human limit for development, and this was further confirmed with the level 6 curriculum having a 100% dropout rate. The beta curriculum is massively above that human limit and Koji was able to not just survive it but surpass it by engaging himself to do so. To consider another EE feat from outside V0 we can look at his false persona from Y1V1 and Y1V2. This is EE because Koji also created false memories to associate with this persona and recalling these memories triggered emotional responses. We know that Koji understands that the "memories" his persona recalls are fake and never happened, and we also know that he wouldn't trigger a visceral reaction normally to such memories, so the difference is that he was fully engaged with his false persona. On an emotional level those memories are real and thus created real emotional reactions. To ability to fabricate such reactions intentionally is quite literally inhuman levels of emotional control.
bro everybody is forgetting the insanely lengthy docs johan got some time ago 💀 but i agree with the ayanokoji doc coming out hes going to destroy johan even in categories we thought johan usually takes like EQ, deception, manipulation, etc
Emotional Intelligence to Koji is because he just outscales Johan there. Koji has insane EI feats that many people seem to dismiss because they don't know about them having not read the COTE LN, or because they can't imagine a "emotionless schoolkid" taking EI from anyone. This is especially funny since Koji isn't emotionless. You might be neither of these but enough people are that the general perception of Koji's EI in SCD isn't very high.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Johan has more evidence of emotional intelligence than Koji Even Johan scales above Patrick in emotional intelligence there are the tests of Anna + Tenma when she cried to convince Kyle when she turned envy into admiration Johan has a knowledge Deep psychology, knowing how to study human emotions and manage them at will, Koji would take a lot of empathy, although Johan has also shown empathy.
@@Johanfannum1 All the things you said about Johan, you realize Koji has the same but better right? Koji has a deeper Knowledge of psychology and an ability to understand human emotions and manage them at will as well. In terms of EI I can't speak to PJ directly as I haven't watched TM yet but even from the feats I already know I doubt Johan is above Jane in EI. As for Koji vs Johan, Koji has much better EM, and EE, better EP, EU and ER, with Johan only taking EF and it honestly isn't a gap. In your other comment you said you had Johan taking "all" EI categories which is honestly ridiculous seeing as Koji gaps in EM and EE and comfortably clears in ER and EP. EU is closer but I do have Koji taking, but saying Johan takes all is just blatantly wrong. You also said Johan > Koji in Inductive Reasoning? Can you explain that?
@@TheHuntsman1001 I can understand that Koji is very intelligent but there are points that Johan gets and wins like all the points of emotional intelligence, deception, plans and strategies, he could even take inductive reasoning
"My son doesn't get vaccinated and he's fine"
The son:
Koji taking Cat and Mouse is wild.. Koji's fans are getting crazier
Your comment has 2 meanings and each of them rubs salt on both sides. 😭
read cote light novel, volume 0, just see what ayanokoji could do as a lil kid
ayanokoji is honestly underrated in SCD bc people hate the fanboys. W edit and Take
W edit as always 🍷.
Johan wins imo.
Bro always pulls Ayanokoji animations out of his ass☠☠
Given that I can't animate to save my life I'll take that as a compliment.
Great Full Scale video 🥂
thanks
can you tell how does koji take Eq from johan
@@avndwandwe9811 Koji just genuinely our scales in Emotional Intelligence. He has better EP, ER, EM, EE, and EU. Also while Johan takes EF it is honestly close at this point.
Diff is higher.W outcome tho🔥🖤 Nice song choice Huntsman.
can i know why koji takes EU and EP ? johan is absolotly monter in them , i want ask you more about deception , is the hotest take i've seen btw koji and johan in scd
The take is not hot at all.
Ayanokoji has strong EI feats: kei, hirata, ichinose etc... he breakes literally everyone who comes in his way and remember they are not fodders like in the monster anime but geniuses
Great FS vid
Diff is fair for you, though I disagree in some categories
Monster watched on the radio😂😂 and gave the most manipulation to victim Yumeko
Bias in this vid >>>>>>>>
We can run it
I can name every johan feat
Can you name every koji
Feat from the Novel?
@@FangYuan-w7e I didn’t read the novel no.The best feat I’ve heard is when he beat a computer that could calculate 20,000,000 moves in a second which would be the same as deep blue the first computer to be made for chess
@@SuperiorEdits755
That feat is probably the most mid feat
He has
Anyways
Checkout some docs then
If you can
Since both koji and johan have doc
Johan doc is better imo but koji doc will also be good so you can find actual feats
Koji extreme diffs imo
@@SuperiorEdits755 He has better feats and honestly, you shouldn't comment on his scaling if you haven't even read the novel.
Basing your take off anime is like taking only Y1 version of Ayanokouji and nerf it to like its 30-40%.
@@ManSat001 telling someone that they shouldn’t have an opinion based off the fact they didn’t read a book is stupid
Great FS video + W take
Beautiful edit and W take
W edit and take
Bro gave EQ to Koji? 💀
Great video ☕☕☕☕
I also have Koji winning but Johan is a bit underrated
I agree with the take , but the diff should be higher like high diff
Amazing edit and take
btw what's your take on Koji vs Aizen in overall outsmarting
the person making the aizen doc i think he said he has him above akiyama 💀🙏
@@calicocat78 💀no way in the h*ll it is happening 💀
@@Y-IDC
This is happening buddy
Cause
A character gets a doc full of fanmade headcanon feats and boom
He is baku victimiser cause this community has zero critical thinking skill
@@FangYuan-w7e True enough, but still it's crazy💀💀
you seem to be new I suppose?
many new people have joined and I can't get rid of my studies🥲
@@Y-IDC
I aint new
This is my alt
I will leave soon too
Beautiful edition, but the distribution of points is horrible🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
W vid bro diff is higher imo tho
Johan is like Lelouch/Furuya level ngl. The diff is higher for me as well but not that much higher like high (+) diff or very high at max.
@@jackthezodiac6136 I have Johan below Lelouch level, but very close. That being said I don't have Koji vs Johan nearly close enough to warrant High Diff or above.
Beautiful edition. Could you explain in detail why you gave EU, Bluffing, Fabrication, Misdirection, Sophistry, Relationship Management, Psychology and Non Fixed Situation to Ayanokoji? And also why did you give EF, Information Control, Trap Setting and Planning Preparation to Johan? (If you could explain each of these points in detail, I would be happy).
Don't even know how he takes EQE or EM (Even Intra-Em) Johan realized that their mother's thought process was, "Which one she didn't really need." So, Johan cherishes Anna after, which is why he says anything can be Anna's when they're young and shit like that. Johan was basically being the mother that they never had, since Johan really assumed that his mother just dumped his sister because she didn't think she needed her like she Johan, so Johan feels entitled to always be a guardian of Anna and aforementioned Cherish, this means eliminating the people that would want to hurt them in any shape or form. Which is why Johan always killed the foster parents, however, he also did where Anna would never know. Because he knows that him and Anna are a very special thing a special bond of sorts. So Johan makes sure that when he kills he does it where she won't be aware of it. Which why Johan distracted Anna from the dead fosters by having her chase him with the flower he had. This is proof because once Anna found out, Johan felt sad, not because he was caught, but because the relationship he had with Annas has now been crushed. So, to make sure she doesn't live with a memory of her brother being a bad guy, she offers her to shoot him in the head. (Johan's broken EQE) (Not done.)
Johan manipulated his captors into releasing him (Most likely even though it just says that he manipulated them, but it said nothing about suicide, you could make that argument though) this is impressive because those are the people that locked him up in Kinderheim because he had the power to kill people with words (Making him that of a monster) so the fact that he manipulated adults (Jailors) into possibly releasing them (Since he manipulated them) is impressive, it's also stated that Johan has superhuman levels of brainwashing, having Richard commit suicide with just words (Which is also broken VCI because for comprehension he had to comprehend the meaning behind the words and how impactful they'll be for a successful suicide manipulation attempt, for similarities it's basically the same thing, as for vocabulary he had to use the right words to instigate a successful suicide, words that'll leave a huge impact on Richard, because Richard is a smart detective in addition to him being led by intuition as well, so for him to get manipulated like that by Johan is insane. Johan's most broken EU moment this is also broken EQE from Johan obviously) Johan in another monster was able to resist sleeping pills at such a young age. In addition to Johan's perfect plan to have Tenma kill him after freeing Anna of all the things that'll bring back her trauma and keep her safe overall, then it was all about eliminating himself, he had to make a choice to eliminate himself just so he could keep protect Anna (Because Johan knows that nothing will be the same after all he's done, so he makes a decision to kill himself, and stray away from his sister Anna, the only light in his world, where he thought only Darkness existed, and Anna was his only Light, and he's literally making a decision that'll make him absent from the love his life (Pause) even though he doesn't necessarily need to (Like he can turn himself in) (That's crazy Stress tolerance, Mental Toughness, Perseverance due to him doing everything that he's ever done in the Manga like killing a lot of people, was just for Anna which also makes it broken Emotional Engagement. Johan also has broken EQE because of his kid days with Anna, because Johan wanted to do everything for Anna, basically being the mother/parent that they never really had, especially since their mother took them apart from each other with no remorse (To an extent at least) this would have Johan make Anna his world (Never parting ways from each other) this is also why Johan killed the foster parents everytime people came into their lives because the monster (Franz Bonaparte) would've found them, so he had to make decision and kill people, and when Anna found out it was over for Johan, basically Johan didn't want Anna to remember him like that (A killer, especially her brother) so Johan wants her to end his life even if that means straying away from the only light in his world. (The only person Johan ever loved in his life) (This broken EQE and Intra-Em on Johan's part, especially when he took the role of the monster from Anna just so Anna wouldn't have to be a monster, because it was Anna that was chosen to be the monster but Johan took that from her.) (That's it for now)
You asked about like half the categories in the edit lol, but I can drill down on some of these if you want.
EU - Chabashira's motivations analysis
Fabrication - Love Letter or Rumor Strike
Misdirection - X Strategy Arc
Bluffing - Ryuuen Transaction
Sophistry - Ichinose V9
Relationship Management - Hirata and Kei Manipulation
Non-Fixed To Ayanokouji due to his better Strategy, Planning, Deception, and LR
Planning Prep to Johan due to his general longer timeframe and more in depth planning process
Trap Setting and Info Control are both close but I gave to Johan because he has more consistent feats here than Koji. Trap Setting might end up going to Koji after I finish fully analyze his Love Letter strategy.
If you have specific questions about certain categories lmk
great analysis, in your opinion about the video, who wins?@@Contingency101
@@TheHuntsman1001 I assumed X strategy would destroy in trap setting?
Koji gets no diffed in a cat and mouse situation, wtf?
Certainly not
Obvious winner here
Predicting: Low Diff(If you guys watched his Light vs Ayanokoji and Light vs Johan take)
Whats your opinion on this matchup? IMO : koji mid diffs (-). Johan's manipulation is good but it wont work on koji that effectively. And koji's intelligence will toy with johan so hard. And i have more cats going on koji's side. Whats ur opinion🤔
@@Plasma_4thstateAyanokoji beyond negative diffs (-)
The most terrible point distribution I’ve ever seen tbh
Not really
Why
Imo Johan outscales in Eu feats, cant see how that goes to Koji
W edit and take
What feat(s) did you use for koji in the case of EU and EP btw?
Amazing edit bro!
Big W for planning,ei and deception
W edit
When making the final diff, is how well each character counters each other considered? Im not sure it's even a real thing, but given Johans proficiency in manipulation and Koji's lack of emotions to be manipulated, could it be argued that Johans is countered and therefore decreasing the diff?
To a degree yes. When I determine a final diff I consider both outscaling and countering as part of it. While I give serious weight to countering it can only change the winner if the matchup is close. If one character vastly outscales the other than countering won't matter as much.
In this case, Johan's reliance on emotional manipulation and his lack of an ability to create layered strategies to deceive Koji would lead to Koji countering here as you pointed out. In this case it would lead to Ayanokouji winning with a lower diff than had I not considered countering.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Ah i see, that makes sense, thanks for the reply
@@TheHuntsman1001 yeah Johan does not counter but ayanokouji does?
@@Skksjsjdkd
Yeah he does
Cause his manipulation resistance
Unpredictability And trap evasion
@@FangYuan-w7e oh yeah that Is not countering, I'm talking about offensive skills
Song name??????
Falling Down slowed - Lil Peep & xxxtentacion
@@TheHuntsman1001 I was waiting for this wholehearted reply
Thanks bro/sis🙏
Prediction : Koji mid diff(-)
My take : Koji extreme diff
W edit 🔥
W take 🐐
Mid diff for me
W edit W take but diff could be a little higher if we're talking about current koji
W edit. Imo Johan win, but W opinion
How does Johan win?
@@jackthezodiac6136 Has better feats in Schuvald arc
@@1Anggel_ not really but ok.
How did Koji take creative thinking or abstract thinking? And AC also
Even if Johan takes it, The final result will be the same. Don't worry!
@@gamershub992 ok?
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 ...ok?
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Why would koji not take AC?
Abstract/Creative Thinking feats include engineering Horikita's bet, WR systems induction, Atsuomi's motives abduction, rumor mail, and Love Letter.
Great edit I liked this one a lot
I was wondering if you would ever plan on using usogui chars in your edits? It would be cool to see Ayanokoji vs lalo Hal or Baku
Eventually, if I ever get around to reading Usogui
What are the categories you are using? Can you explain them all to me? Some category I see are very confusing, like versatility or overcoming limitations.
There were a ton of categories in this edit (and tbh I used more than normal to fill space in a longer edit) but I can explain the ones you don't understand.
Versatility: This refers to a character's ability to tackle different kinds of situations effectively. Having a more diverse skillset and more experience in different situations leads to scaling higher in versatility. For example I rate a character like Yuuichi fairly low in versatility since his skillset is very limited and focused on primarily emotional manipulation and Sophistry/Acting. Compared to someone like Lelouch who would be comparably much more versatile since he has strong strategic skills, reasoning, manipulation and deception as an example.
Overcoming Limitations: This is a measure of how well a character performs when in stressful or disadvantages situations. Character's who can overcome obstacles with clever strategy/tactics or other skills scale high here. A good example would be L Lawliet and him having to work from a disadvantageous situation compared to Light since he had no knowledge of the existence of Shinigami, the Death Note etc. while Light was formulating his strategies around having that knowledge.
Let me know if there were other categories you didn't understand.
@TheHuntsman1001 i have a question. How you scale strategy and planning example Ayanokoji . i very confusing what is strategy and planning and how you scale Reasoning between Thinking too.
Thank you very much♥️
Fantastic Edit, i'd give EU to Johan
I was actually like😮 because i actually make a edit like this on my phone for my UA-cam channel man but you are is batter 😎
Thanks bro
W edit and W take
Diff could be Higher like mid diff
W edit... Bro can u give me ur DC??
TheHuntsman1001
@@TheHuntsman1001 i have sent u req
@@TheHuntsman1001what's kouji's Best abstract reasoning feat iyo?
Ayanokogi is most hated character, hence proved
If koji lose its W
But is koji win its L
I’d def give trap setting to Ayanokoji due to love letter trap, and preparation process to Ayanokoji too, one of ur comments said Johan’s preparations had a larger timeframe which is true but that doesn’t make it a more quality process of preparations, quite literally everything ayanokoji’s done in year 1 and year 2 has just been preparation for when he finally transfers classes, also what do u define mental fortitude as and why does it go to Ayanokoji?
Btw is there any scd character u scale above Ayanokoji and who wins iyo between ayanokoji and manga Tokuchi which ayanokoji takes it imo
@@estevandragoon9297 Manga tokuchi takes it imo
Mental fortitude is the strength and resilience of the mind to endure, face, and overcome challenges, stress, or adversity. It involves maintaining focus, composure, and determination, even when confronted with difficult circumstances. Koji kinda slams here tbh, his time in the WR and his ability to not just survive but surpass the curriculum which was above normal human limits and remain completely sane is extremely high mental fortitude.
I am reading One Outs currently so I won't comment on Tokuchi yet. As for my top characters in SCD scaling for me is currently CTW or Koji, I am reading Ace's CTW L doc and reevaluating his scaling currently.
@@TheHuntsman1001so u dont have an exact take for CTW L vs Ayanokoji?
Goot edit but Johan win
Excited fr
Ok
Ayano's Emotional/Social Intel feats are great in last volumes but ı think Johan still way better in this catogeries also Ayanokoji no change to cacht Johan
Diffs is like insult to Johan
Obviously that is incorrect. Johan has solid emotional intelligence feats but they are a little overblown. When you compare feats between the two characters objectively Koji fairly comfortably clears.
If you disagree which EI categories did I give Koji that you think Johan takes? I'd be happy to explain why Koji does in fact take.
EE to Ayano😭😭
yep
@@TheHuntsman1001
cap bro
Huntsman took mytson cap community poll as personal lol
W edit + imo Kouji wins but around high diff
Which poll? I haven't seen a Koji vs Johan poll in awhile lol.
@@TheHuntsman1001 in mytson channel you know it's a hybrid wis/scd channel even though it is 90% wis and 10% scd
Ofc in that community poll Johan won against Kouji (but again I kind of expected that because most of the voters are from wis). And they can't even put an argument against on how Johan wins against Kouji
@@POKERFACESOCIOPATH I see. The majority of SCD scalers haven’t even read the COTE LNs so I wouldn’t expect WIS scalers to have done so.
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WIS audience are clowns
W video.
But the diff should be higher like high diff.
Johan is finished 😭
Predicting Ayanokoji low-mid diff or mid diff (-)
The music is so inappropriate lmao 🤣 W edit and take tho, mostly understand everything
Shouldnt social engineering and integration be switched?
What's wrong with the music?
@TheHuntsman1001 it's the "that's my shoulder" song which don't fit this match up at all. Anyway answer the question 😡
@@yazsob8259 Not really sure what you mean lol.
Anyway, I don't think Social Integration and Social Engineering should be switched. Johan is better at leveraging Social interactions to gain influence or information (Engineering) and Koji is better at integrating himself and adapting to social situations. (Integration)
In fairness they are both very strong in both categories but I have Johan above in Social Engineering and Koji above in Social Integration.
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The song in itself is kinda a meme song on TikTok for like “sad boy” emo edits. You can kinda get that by the lyrics as they’re kinda cringe.
@@Miracles5512 I see. I literally don’t use Tik Tok so I had no idea lol.
Agree with koji winning but I think johan was underrated here, koji high diffs
Johan slams,W edit
W edit. Why aren't you responding to that one guy tho
I'm going to respond to everyone dw
Johan Takes deception
I mean....I disagree
i honestly thought so too given how much we been brainwashed by most scd creators giving categories like eq, manipulation, deception to johan because hes just johan but koji's feats in these cats are so underrated sometimes
Johan mid-high diffs, how do you even give Ayano EE, his EEs is horrible and Johan has one of the strongest EEo in SCD
So I take it you haven't read V0 if you think Koji has bad EE. It's quite literally his best EI subcategory.
@@TheHuntsman1001 ERs+ is his best category. Can you give me some of his feats in EEs+?
@@klfcn26 I would agree that his ER is very strong and I have it second to EE.
For EE to fully understand some of Koji's EE feats you need to read V0 of the LN as the feats are more impressive in that context so I would recommend doing that.
The main EE feat from V0 is Koji engaging himself to surpass the 4th generations curriculum. He was using his own curiosity, desire to learn, and his drive to see how far he could go to push himself beyond ordinary human limits. We see this as Suzukake, the creator of the WR curriculum, directly confirmed that the level 6 curriculum is the human limit for development, and this was further confirmed with the level 6 curriculum having a 100% dropout rate. The beta curriculum is massively above that human limit and Koji was able to not just survive it but surpass it by engaging himself to do so.
To consider another EE feat from outside V0 we can look at his false persona from Y1V1 and Y1V2. This is EE because Koji also created false memories to associate with this persona and recalling these memories triggered emotional responses. We know that Koji understands that the "memories" his persona recalls are fake and never happened, and we also know that he wouldn't trigger a visceral reaction normally to such memories, so the difference is that he was fully engaged with his false persona. On an emotional level those memories are real and thus created real emotional reactions. To ability to fabricate such reactions intentionally is quite literally inhuman levels of emotional control.
How do you scale EU? What's your way of determining which character shows better EU feats than another?@@TheHuntsman1001
How do you scale EU? What's your way of determining which character shows better EU feats than another?@@TheHuntsman1001
Good edit,not the best take.Overall Koji win,but very high diff
W edit Johan sola no diff
Alr now make koji low diff please, im sure after the doc releases its a damn violation for johan lmao.
JOHAN IS COOKED FOR.
JOHAN IS DONE FOR.
bro everybody is forgetting the insanely lengthy docs johan got some time ago 💀 but i agree with the ayanokoji doc coming out hes going to destroy johan even in categories we thought johan usually takes like EQ, deception, manipulation, etc
W edit but horrible take.
Johan>
Lower Diff imo and Emotional Manipulation to Koji
N-Ice❎
N-Flame 🗣🗣🥶
bro wants to make it no diff so bad 💀 calm down
@@N-Ice_ No bro😭
Wtf ??? How eq goes to koji ????
You see monster and read another monster?
Emotional Intelligence to Koji is because he just outscales Johan there. Koji has insane EI feats that many people seem to dismiss because they don't know about them having not read the COTE LN, or because they can't imagine a "emotionless schoolkid" taking EI from anyone. This is especially funny since Koji isn't emotionless. You might be neither of these but enough people are that the general perception of Koji's EI in SCD isn't very high.
@@TheHuntsman1001 Johan has more evidence of emotional intelligence than Koji Even Johan scales above Patrick in emotional intelligence there are the tests of Anna + Tenma when she cried to convince Kyle when she turned envy into admiration Johan has a knowledge Deep psychology, knowing how to study human emotions and manage them at will, Koji would take a lot of empathy, although Johan has also shown empathy.
@@Johanfannum1 All the things you said about Johan, you realize Koji has the same but better right? Koji has a deeper Knowledge of psychology and an ability to understand human emotions and manage them at will as well. In terms of EI I can't speak to PJ directly as I haven't watched TM yet but even from the feats I already know I doubt Johan is above Jane in EI. As for Koji vs Johan, Koji has much better EM, and EE, better EP, EU and ER, with Johan only taking EF and it honestly isn't a gap.
In your other comment you said you had Johan taking "all" EI categories which is honestly ridiculous seeing as Koji gaps in EM and EE and comfortably clears in ER and EP. EU is closer but I do have Koji taking, but saying Johan takes all is just blatantly wrong. You also said Johan > Koji in Inductive Reasoning? Can you explain that?
Ayanokoji med_high diff Johan
W but with countering included koji wins mid diff (-)
@@AboodObidat W
I have it higher
Mid-high +w
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good joke
Big L
cap vid johan wins extreme diff stop glazing this midkoji
If you think that you must be able to present actual reasons why. I'm happy to discuss unless your entire argument is "Huntsman glazes MidKoji".
@@TheHuntsman1001 i would be happy to discuss but i dont have time rn as i have exams u can watch other full scale of fodder vs johan
Johan slam mid diff another mosnter feats + doc johan
@@Johanfannum1 I read the Johan doc and Koji still wins lol.
@@TheHuntsman1001 I can understand that Koji is very intelligent but there are points that Johan gets and wins like all the points of emotional intelligence, deception, plans and strategies, he could even take inductive reasoning
Horrible
Uh
horrible scaling
womp womp Platinum