This Is SCARY. I Just Found Out Most Companies Sell Their Employee Records For Profit!
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Do Companies SELL Your Job Application Data? The Shocking Answer!
Your company is probably selling your personal salary and other data. The worst part is that you haven't consented, nor do they care. This includes your salary, pay history, unemployment claims records, personal addresses, and much more. If you're a job seeker, they may also use this data when you apply for a job.
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0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Your company is (probably) selling your data
2:36 - Equifax knows a scary amount about you
4:10 - The "Work Number" website resells it to data brokers
7:00 - How to remove your personal info
9:58 - Leaders admit they'll sell your info regardless
10:51 - What States are doing about it
11:33 - Fake jobs that steal your data
The Work Number website: theworknumber.com/
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Agreed this is misleading product information. DeleteMe can not remove data from Equifax
What's to stop them from getting your money scraping your data and reselling it?
@@ecchioni Absolutely nothing! Once data are stolen there is no way to "get them back" (Moreover, there is no accountability, since everybody now can point finger at everybody). Looks like a scam to me. Will probably ask for DOB and SSN ("so that we can find your data") and sell it too 🙂
Thank you for this.
Does DeleteMe actually make Equifax get rid of this data?
How do we know that any of these data brokers are actually getting rid of the data?
This is my shocked face. 😑
Privacy is a farce in this country. Smoke and mirrors at best.
In every country.
@@MVK_GS Every country is bad in some way or another, but some are worse than others.
A lot of these kind of privacy invasions wouldn't fly in the EU; GDPR fines would kick their ass.
Even inside the US, California is a little better than most other states.
@@Entertainment-is6ex Except when it come to privacy from a state government institution. I remember less than a year ago when the California government "leaked" the names and home addresses of CCW holders in the state, so pick your poison I guess.
This is probably why hiring companies have stopped doing employment reference checks; they no longer need to do it since its all online for a small fee...
What do you think background checking companies use?
You think this is a new thing?
I found it highgly strange that when I was hired for Whole foods position thru Amazon a few years back that I did not need to provide employer references.
@@Micaiah144It’s not that strange. References are weak indicators of a good employee because it’s just your friends or a mentor (people who already like you and are biased) who are listed anyway. It’s holds little weight and they are more concerned with you not lying about your employment history, title, and dates of employment. Some companies still make third party verifiers call the references but it’s low weight compared to, do you have the degree and job experience you claim you do.
@@traetrae11 Lawsuits have also been filed( and won) due to an employee from a company giving a bad reference. Many larger companies have a " no reference" policy and will only give out employment dates verification.
Ironically they tell you not to share your salary figures with your coworkers, yet they’re literally selling it for profit
Excellent point! Data is good when it benefits them and bad when it does not benefit them!
Pretty rich, right?
@@ALifeAfterLayoff and against the law to enforce in IL. Granted: harder to prove for the employee.
That's illegal federally. It's considered unionizing.
Classic corporate double standard. At this point I am not surprised in the slightest...
You're not allowed to tell anyone your salary, but they're allowed to sell it to anyone they want.
You are allowed to disclose your salary
Crazy double standard, right?
This shit needs to be illegal.
Yeah many things are illegal but done every day. This shit needs to stop!
America
I don't see how this doesn't fall under the category of PII (Personally Identifiable Information), which companies are legally obligated to protect, and would definitely face MASSIVE trouble if they sold it. Companies already get into trouble for having horrendously bad security practices to protect PII and PHI, purposely selling that kind of stuff is so much worse. To be clear companies can share certain types of PII data, but they generally have to anonymize it.
@@shadowninja6689 social security number is personal as data can be
America, the land of freedom (for big business)
Double standards: how companies would react if employees start business of selling company data, especially if they haven't signed NDA or if there is something not covered by NDA? I see there would be many, many lawsuits.
Black market
Not to mention hypocritical with how they'd react if someone posted the names and salary history of all of their employees. They'd want to go after them for leaking PII data (Personally Identifiable Information).
The number of hoops one has to jump through is becoming mind numbing !!!!
Think about it, you are jobless and your savings are dwindling and here you have fake job offers and genuine companies ghosting you plus all these shenanigans running in the background !!!
Yup 😉 you got it right buddy old pal 😈 they set trap's up everywhere!!!!
@@DispholidusTypus The thing that makes it even more hard, is that you don't even know what rules are of this company
Literally my life right now after feeling like id be fine for the past decade+ i get so much daily spam w "job openings" that match my exp perfectly 😢
The world is a very very sick place currently.
Its a damn joke at this point. I have read about people who have submitted over 3,000 resumes with NO interviews and they have many certifications and degree as well along with 8 years experience. They didnt get 1 call back. (they showed proof of the sent resumes)
Between these data pimps, the ATS system that filters resume, lazy HR departments, toxic workplace foolishness and low salaries who the hell wants any of it at this point?
Here in Murica we are not a community, we’re a shopping mall.
You’re a fringe community.
Anything for profit 💵 💵 💵
In the wise words of Metallica: Sad but true.
Gives new meaning to the saying, You’re just a Number.
I just spoke to an external recruiter today that asked for my date of birth and last 4 digits of my social security #. He told me lots of recruiters require them to submit a resume to a company. I told him I've never had anyone else require it and I've spoken to dozens of recruiters. I don't regret my decision with not giving that info to him.
That recruiter is full of it.
Asking fir DOB is illegal. Read the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. After you are officially hired, insurance, SSA, and IRS are the only entities that need it. NEVER disclose it unless you have accepted an offer for a legitimate job and are filling out the official forms.
@@voxpopuli348I just politely say that info will be made available when I am hired. If they want to know if I have the legal right to work, I just tell them verbally. No numbers.
I wonder if this is why Indian recruiters are so aggressive in getting your resume and salary expectations, but then immediately ghost you without fail.
They’re paid to sell your resume info to people offshore who are competing to underbid for your job on poverty wage contract job😉
No, they do it to show that they tried to hire for the role and then hire their own candidates for H1B visas. They lowball this candidate and then get a share from their salary.
@@jonasbaine3538That makes sense
They don’t ghost you because of that. They ghost you because the hiring manager ghosted them and in their culture (I’m Indian), they just move onto the next. And hiring managers ghost them because they’re notorious for having zero communication skills, being unable to sniff out morons, and so on. That’s why they send anyone who so much as comes across their desk.
Many will ask you for your references right off the bat too, gotta add to their spam list
One remedy is to tell The Work Number that you suspect that you might have had your data compromised and to lock your file. That plugs up a big hole in your data security.
Yeah I could tell micro crap from the years ago I used to use Windows to not sell my data again and calls me identity theft but guess what the damage is already done you can't tell a politician not to lie and then be shocked when he or she lies because that's been proven in the entire history of the United States with very very few and rare exceptions
This isn't shocking, greed goes a long way
This is the equivalent to stealing customer property & profiting off it after leaving the company. This should be illegal AF.
I openly tell my salary to all my coworkers. if it causes everything to crash, that's on management. I don't want to work with a team that's getting hosed when we're all busting our asses.
I have a feeling that secretly Google is the Supreme Leader of all these employers.
Interestingly, I often search google for hard to find job posts using their "jobs" feature.
Of course, they’re the overlords..,we’ll all be wearing their hats before long (Amazon too)
Jesus. I want a a clean 10 million just so I can retire from the work force. Companies will do ANYTHING for more money. Its never enough for them.
💯 agree. Get some good $$$ and leave the corrupt system.
I’m stunned!! Thanks for alerting us about who is harvesting our personal data.
It's worse than I originally thought.
Hard to get a job depending on your skills, years of experience, educational back round. Then you have to deal with the fake job ads, robo calls, multiple hiring sessions, and now well its been having for several years now selling your personal private data. This is beyond sickening, united states corporate structure and procedures need more workers and legal teams to work to combat this, and pass more stricter privacy data laws prohibiting employers from doing this and the brokers and equifax.
Ive been saying this it feels more and more NO decent incentives for employees anymore "oh will give you 2 weeks PTO after a year" but will sell your private data, fire you bc most are "at will" employers. Maybe give you 2-3% annual increase or bonus. Shit is wack. "if you work here more than 10 years will give you another week paid vacation joke.
Im pro employee pay them a decent wage, good pto, and benefits, and scheduling.
“The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good”. Wall street
I lived in Florida around 2003 when I applied for a job through a temp agency. Years later I moved to California and applied to a different temp agency around 2016 and they had all data from years ago. Never understood how they could do that.
Temp agencies are data aggregators and scams.
In European countries something like that is illegal.
Data reselling sounds like spammers used to resell "high quality" lists of e-mails.
Yet here in the US if you suggest something like that should be illegal you labeled a "socialist" or "communist".
Its illegal only on paper
Yeah. Many advertise such data services. Maybe they are bluffing, but one can never know.
Are you sure though? Having worked for a multinational I can't be so sure. I never checked what geographical location they had set on my pc. Edit OK I see it is a American issue. Still scary
One company a few years ago sent me an obscure notice that said I could get access (most people would not even notice as it's part of a string of notices when you start), so I jumped thru the hoops to get access. The data (including salary data) is staggering - going back decades!! It's not just some high tech companies - this is everyone.
Unfortunately, not surprised. The E.U. has much more stringent privacy standards than the U.S. Here it seems like anything is available at the right price.
The6 have real democracy
Companies used the worknumber to find out if employees were working second jobs in duality with their full time jobs while working remotely during the pandemic.
Some folks were fired.
Your data will be used for whatever use case fits the current agenda.
This is very much borderline criminal.
job sites like seek also have a lot of fake job ads.
if it says "private employer" i'd be weary about applying as you dont know who your giving your personal info to
I know this all too well.... I applied for benefits for a company I was working for at the time, 3 hours later scam calls started rolling in, and they have continued ever since then at about 5 calls a day on average. Its scummy, and you cant opt out. The worst part about the USA is consent is assumed, not given
The most irritating thing on the Internet are data brokers who tell the world where you work. I have been stalked in the past and this really makes me mad.
If you do web development, you already knew this.
Shame on any fellow web developers who sell out your brother and sister's data for profit!
American big corp, Chinese big corp.. what's the difference.. Nothing. Here in Europe stuff like this would be illegal (most likely).
Its illegal on paper yes...in Europe
No telling what kinds of data Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and other job sites are selling and/or buying...
ALL of it. Anything and everything you put or any email you used to create it, phone to verify...tehy will and likely have sold it all.
employers being scumbags? I am truly shocked
As a loan processor I loved the work number. It meant I didn’t have to pick up the phone and call an employer, who often didn’t care about deadlines and would string me along for days if not weeks. But we always have to have written permission from our borrowers before we could pull their information. People can also create a privacy code I believe, where no one can pull the data unless they have the personal code to better protect the data.
Do all employers provide salary information, job title, employment dates, reason for being fired to the work number? Thanks
@@emailuser8668 They provide dates, but not reasons for being fired. Not from what I used to pull for my mortgage company. And sometimes the end of employment dates were wrong or the information was never updated. Some employers won’t pay to have information updated for terminated employees so my borrowers would have to call to update the information.
Also yes, they did provide salary information most of the time. If they didn’t we would have to collect paystubs and/or W2s from the borrower to calculate 2 years worth of income.
Seems like if my data is going to be sold anyway, maybe there's an opportunity here as well.
In the past couple of years, some states have tried to regulate some degree of salary transparency with respect to posting a range in the job posting for the role.
If it were feasible to buy a dataset of 'professionals like me (and maybe 1-2 steps up the org chart) in my metro area for my industry (and similar industries), that could potentially be quite valuable in a job hunt or salary negotiation.
Sort of a back door for salary transparency data and probably way better than the legally required disclosures in some states in terms of usefulness.
Modern problems require modern solutions I guess...
Yeah, that’s totally true for my work was not even on my credit report but now it’s there showing where I work at.
Yet another reason to place a freeze on all three credit reports. I froze my credit after the 2006 data breach when hackers obtained info on people who applied for jobs with the US government.
Is this a US thing ? I can't imagine it would fly in the EU under GDPR legislation.
Of course. The rich reign Supreme here
I'm not sure about the EU. You'd have to check the fine print of the privacy policies of your credit services.
Of course it wouldn't. The US is built on absolute greed and privacy is not a thing here.
I wish Congress has the spine to make it illegal for any company to sell the public’s data for profit.
They won’t until these boomer dinosaurs get out..they’re probably making money off it
The contract with America has been shredded.
You realize if they did nothing would be free? You would be paying to search on google, watch youtube, etc.
@@charliedallachie3539 Actually, it's just the opposite. The older population is more irate about this because that generation lived with more privacy. They didn't have databases, they had card catalogs. Watch the movie or read the story of Erin Brokovich - she had to go to the physical water board and manually poor through records to find what she wanted. The younger population far more often puts personal information out there without thought, and many are just seasoned to believe there is no privacy. Governments, however, from local to federal, love it because it makes it easier for them to get whatever data they want.
@@scmseanor maybe we could switch to an economic model that doesn't require a privacy hellscape to exist in order for essential utilities like the internet to function properly
Thats why i never had Facebook or other social media platforms. I also reject all COOKIES when asked to accept or not.
Privacy is dead, unfortunately. And AI is still in its infancy...
I’m hesitant to share my last salary because often it’s too high, not sure what to do in that situation. I need a job and would take lower but nothing gives, when I reveal it they shut down the conversation
Don't reveal it unless u have a job. Then inflate it so u get more $.
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This could be one of the many already known reasons why there are so many ghost jobs and fake ads. They want your info to sell it for profit when there wasnt a real job in the first place.
Thank you for this info. I was wondering why I may be getting ghosted more than seemed reasonable.
The problem with these services is that you have to give them all your pii. So now they have confirmed pii for you that is more valuable than the scraped and gathered stuff that the other data brokers had. They might not sell your data directly, but they may sell the company. The value of which comes largely from their exclusive access to your data.
That was what I was thinking. They use the sign up info to confirm that it is indeed you which then creates a "verified" icon next to the info and the info becomes more valuable.
I will never not share my salary with colleagues again.
If it's free, your data is the product.
Hell, even when it isn’t free, your data is the product…
Interesting, considering most private-sector employers I worked for considered salary schedules to be confidential information to be disclosed only to persons employed in that particular position, or to management staff. They may not even disclose such information to a prospective hire.
Damn...can we get some privacy. That's why I don't do LinkedIn in, I don't exist.
Yes LinkedIn and Indeed along with the rest of the job sites seem to be just data aggregator trash who mine data and sell it. Thats why the job listings are mostly all phantom jobs that dont exist.
Yep, then people will ask "why dont you have this social media" or that, or LinkedIn. Then they try to make you out to be like a pariah since you dont have it. If you were to tell them that its just data aggregation and data mining bastard companies they will try and laugh it off. Majority of people are non thinking NPCs.
One thing i know for sure is that a lot of these recruit agencies also sell your data
I recommend using a fictitious date of birth with any service other than governments, banks, and utilities as it is a major linking identifier (composite primary key) in addition to your name! If you did that with employers they wouldn't be able to link the data back to you. If you incremented that day of birth with each and kept track you would then be able to track down the fucker who sold and leaked your info! And prove it to sue em too!
Someone I know used to put their first name as the company on the retail Rewards/"points programs" so they knew who was selling their info if they got junk mail later, for example "Walmart Smith" or "Target Jones" or whatever. Not sure how effective it was
Yes, that is called feeding shit through the pipe and seeing what hole it comes out of that way you can identify the leak.
Ya there’s definitely no defending this one
You mentioned the Work Number thing, then mentioned the credit bureau data breach, but referred to it as "those records". Those were two different things and ran differently, and even the article you showed earlier said so.
First thing I thought of...is that why there are so many "phantom " job posts
EXACTLY, they are just data mining scam. LinkedIN and Indeed seem to just be data aggregators and most of their jobs are FAKE as hell!
Corporations have way too much leeway in this country.
This feels like it should be illegal. How can we protect our personal information?
I have to share this one. I swear what else will these companies do to people?
I want off this ride.
Biometric data and aggregated user health data is another immense market.
All this is going to do is further break the trust between employee and employer, or at least, what was left. This will push some people to not want to look for work again. People are seeing the game is getting continuously rigged against them and I think some people will not put up with it. More and more people will refuse to play.
Yeah that is what is happening. Peopel are realizing they are just rats on a wheel and no matter how fast they run or hard they try they will never get off the wheel so many are just not running anymore and walking away from the wheel.
This is why I’m working hard to work for myself. The game is rigged and is cold
If you think they're just going to delete your data because you ask them to, and not back it up somewhere else... 😂😂😂
This has a monthly cost. You do not go into that at all. At minimum, it's a little over $100 per year. And, what you showed, looks like they only removed a fraction of the total records? Did they do anything about the brokers who have your data? What is the value of this other than putting one in complete panic.
You do not need to use this service, you can search for these brokers on your own and request to remove your data individually.
@@ALifeAfterLayofflol
These people should be prison.
So does the rule of lying about your end date on the resume, but telling on the background check still apply?
Wouldn’t surprise me, what else is new with corporate America?
In the EU this is theorhetically illegal.
This is the kind of data privacy issues why we made GDPR in Europe.
I’ve noticed bosses like to give there friends bigger salaries this has nothing 😢to do with performance
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I don't even answer the phone anymore.
Social Credit is here in America! 🎉🎉 U.S. taking notes from China.
That should put to rest ANY qualms the company has about salary-information sharing with or amongst any employees.
UGH… but then to protect ourselves we have to pay a monthly fee
Yeah really , seems you have to pay fees for every damn thing now. Its getting to be a huge fkin headache in general.
Nothing new I asked to opt out from insurance solicitation at one company. They sold list to Allstate.
There goes highballing for offers with a 10+% margin on what you actually make.
Actually I knew this and that's because I had a friend of mine who once told me that he could tell me almost anything about me without having to hack my computer and I didn't believe him and then he proceeded to tell me exactly where I lived how much I made what my history was like who my relatives were you know places I frequent and then when I asked him how he was able to find this he said simply it was public information and that most people don't realize that their company sell their information. That was a big eye opener for me.
I freezed TWN after getting a report of previous employers and compensation history. They have too much info on we the people.
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I have listened to a lot of your UA-cam videos. Do you offer a course in how to become an expert technical recruiter or do you have one that you highly recommend.
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I do not have a course but can do coaching on it. Unfortunately, I don't know any resources out there, but maybe I'll put it on my roadmap.
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Yep data brokering both foreign and domestic
This is even more dangerous when involving Multi-National Company in 3rd world country. Ive seen some of my friend paid like slight above minimum wage than local salaries. Im expecting 2x-3x salary when it comes to MNC
The rich reign supreme in the U.S. This isn't shocking at all.
We need sweeping consumer, labor, and privacy rights laws like a nail in the head. This crap wouldn't fly in the EU
Is this the meaning of " we've found your data in a data breach"?
Oh no~!
TWN isn't the only entity out there like it... everybody is getting exploited, either actively or passively.
You have to be proactive in protecting yourself.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff - 100% agree.
The US is a wild place 🙃
This doesn't apply to Canada?
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Meta doing what they do best 👀
Does this mean we can purchase data on the salary of our coworkers? 🤔
In theory, yes.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff How can you pay for your own report to see what is on there?
Good thing my company has GDPR globally.
Unbelievable
Can we start a movement to make this bullshit illegal? I fucking send dozens of resumes every week when I'm looking for work and this shit is fucked.
Mortgage industries use the work number for income information. Work number makes some of underwriting easier because if running DU (Fannie mae) it calculates income for us.
Why you NEVER trust your employer.
Equifax is shit. They CHARGED me to freeze my credit after THEIR breach.
Unionize the whole damn country
Selling your Privacy. Wow.