For those who have the previous model. There is a tool for Windows called "Better ClearType Tuner". This fixes the BGR in Windows, In many Linux distributions you can either select subpixel layout in the display settings, or usually it's built into the monitor profile.
@@UltimateWobbleBoss if you have a mixed setup of RGB and BGR monitors, you will never have text look properly on all of them. Most software is just incapable of redrawing text the moment it leaves one monitor and lands on another, when you move a window, and doesn't evaluate the DirectWrite ClearType settings as well. The background for this conclusion is that I was specifically looking to buy the Gigabyte monitor, but also keep my current display as secondary, and I just tested all the software that I have and use whether it can even handle it, with fake settings and screenshots and using both standard and this alternative ClearType tuner and I even dove into Qt source code to check what it does. You can naturally flip your Gigabyte upside down but I don't know if it's great for games. I also didn't buy the Gigabyte due to a spectacular accumulation of customer reports of defects that just shouldn't happen, like missing blotches of pixels, plus because of how they handle warranty and products flaws, which is to say as sloppily as humanly possible.
@@Rafaelinux mhm I suppose you can flip the other monitor, if it's only for text and secondary use, upside down into BGR, and keep Gigabyte in its native orientation. In fact Dell monitors are fairly well built, seems actually more likely to physically survive that than Gigabyte.
I've had my M27Q for about 8 months or so now I believe, and I've been told it's BGR, though I've never noticed any issues with text. It's a great monitor if you want 1440p with a pretty high refreshrate
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
I LOVE your monitor reviews (All your content really)! I went with the MSI MAG274QRF-QD monitor a few months ago based on your reviews and I absolutely love it.
Please take care of your warranty I bought a viewsonic vx2758 2kp mhd from Newegg the listing says 3 year warranty it broke down last month and not newegg not the seller not even viewsonic it self covered the warranty.
It went like this newegg said the seller can list whatever warranty promises he wants it's not enforceable, the seller didn't respond to my messages basically saying **** you, viewsonic is the real kicker saying in your country we only offer 2 years of warranty instead of 3 and even thought it is hasn't been 2 years we won't be able to help you because we don't sell that model in your country and we don't offer global warranty.
How do you properly configure yours? I just bought one a month or two ago at their recommendation, but kind of regret it now that there’s a new P version and a better 270hz version too.
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
Picked this up for $269.00 on NewEgg, after taxes $293.00. Fantastic budget moniter now, no dead pixels in sight and back light bleed seems to be non existent on my unit. I think I got pretty danm lucky.
@@tactictense9145 same I’ve been debating on getting the m27q pro or the acer nitro 27” 1500r curved. I’m new to monitors but The acer will be on sale for Black Friday on Walmart for $145 and it has pretty good specs but I’ve been thinking about getting the m27q pro for a while now. I’d only use it for console now but I want to eventually upgrade to pc
It really is the best resolution for a crisp image and fast framerates at a remotely reasonable budget for screens 32 inches or less. I wish OLEDs in this res would make an appearance though.
Was hoping to see a review for this when looking for monitors the other day and would probably have bought it if there was stock in the UK. I went with an MSI monitor instead, but nice to know I wouldn't have made a mistake buying this one.
@@Camhin1 In my case, for docking a work laptop & having the devices in the monitor's USB hub (eg. Keyboard & Mouse, Audio pass through) connect directly without needing to unplug anything from my home desktop.
Picked up the M27Q P for £300 on Amazon. The M27Q is listed for £409 right now, so it’s a no brainer. Found it difficult to find a decent 1440P IPS high refresh rate monitor at £300 or lower, the M27Q P seems to be the best monitor in this price range in the UK right now.
Picked the M27Q because of your video. I'm not really affected with the BGR layout, though I do get dizzy reading when going back to regular 1080p RGB pixel layout.
Thank you very much to hardware unboxed could not afford one of the calibrating tools so I came across your channel while trying to find recommend settings and your icc profile and osd setting have made such a massive difference to my monitor thanks again I hope this message finds its way to you so you know I’m greatly for your hard work
Picked one of these up a few weeks ago. I’m really happy with it! It replaced my old ASUS TN 144hz for FPS games. My 4k TV died about 3 days after I bought it, so it’s currently my main content consumption device… now I just need Disney+ to let me stream high res to my PC!
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
@@MountainMitchYT i got the monitor. works great, i would recommend buying it. the one i got has quite a bit of ips glow, but it’s almost unnoticeable in games and if you get one it will likely have less than mine, as it varies from panel to panel.
@@eliothummer8919 I just bought mine too. I was torn between it and the LG 27GL83A-B. But I figured since it's better than the gigabyte m27q, plus cheaper, I'd get one. Definetly concerned about the lack of reviews hoping I get a good panel. It sounds like getting a bad panel isn't even that bad like you're saying tho.
@@MountainMitchYT yes. the lower left corner for my panel was the worst, but the other three were pretty good in terms of ips glow. even then, the lower left panel is very manageable. that corner is noticeable, but only in black/pretty dark scenes.
Hey Hardware Unboxed, your Gray-To-Gray testing is pretty good, but you could take the next step and measure pre-ringing and post-ringing. You could do that using a high-speed data acquisition device. It doesn't have to cost a lot.
@@tehMaloWalo ringing not pinging, and yes, it's very visible. In a recent LTT video Linus mentioned he bought some new sensors for oscilloscopes to test pixel response curves - and that's exactly what he'll be doing - exactly the thing I described above. He mentioned it *after* I wrote the comment :)
Finally RGB pixel layout. Woohoo Please test some more budget 1440p 34" ultrawide monitors with decent colour accuracy and flat panel with 144hz or above. Seems like expecting too much on budget haha
Awesome review. Good to know that the BGR was taken away, they desperately needed that. Could you look at the MSI G273QF? It's apparently a fantastic monitor and really on the cheap side. There's also the MSI G273QPF. Pretty sure it's the same panel but with a better stand. Keep up the good work!
PC tech is like falling in love with a hooker, you are paying to have your heart broken. All kidding aside I do like the 27q I've had since last year if the newer one is even better it's going to be a hit.
I've had a m27q original for a while now and I've loved it its been great recently though one pixel died and since I've noticed it I can't stop seeing it
I am torn between this monitor and the HP x27q. I would choose the x27q because of the lower price but I am afraid that the image quality and colors wont be very good since the previous tests have positioned it at the bottom of the list. Is there really a big image and quality difference between this monitor and the x27q enough to make me want to pay the extra ~100 dollars?
I may be getting this one tbh just purely for the cpmpetstive gaming aspect. I'll use my oled tv for the single player games. Yet again proving the only true 1ms response time display on the market is an oled as it's almost always around 1 to 2ms regardless
Thanks, I was hesitant about the gigabyte due to many complaints about backlight bleed on amazon reviews and I heard gigabyte is a nightmare for customer support.
Just snagged one off Newegg for $280. Bought it instead of the hp x27q since so many people complained of the panel switch. The LG 27GL83A-B is also $280, honestly wasn't sure if it was better or worse than the M27Q-P, but still went with the M27Q-P. It's crazy this one is cheaper than the normal M27Q which is running at $300 right now. I hope I got the right one, on Newegg it says "M27Q-PRO" instead of "M27Q-P".
Thank you very much for the video. Besides 170 Hz and slightly higher lag I do not see any downsides compared to M27Q X, which I could get for 200€ less in Europe at the moment. Any other features which are really better in M27Q X?
I have the original model and LOVE it! With a BGR fix thats even better, cannot recommend enough this is THE monitor to have if you have a sensible budget
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
I really enjoy watching your content as it is packed with details and important information! I'm actually looking to purchase my first gaming monitor. I have my eye on this one but I also hear great reviews from Xiaomi's 27" 2K 165hz monitor. Hopefully, you can consider reviewing that, as well. Cheers!
Way too expensive here in Europe for what it provides. Seems on par with the LG 27GP850 in this test, which can be had on discount for 300€. This is 150 more here, not to mention that's it's a Gigabyte lol
Bought this monitor (m27qp) as a single monitor replacement for my 2k work and 1080p gaming screen, and so i would no longer have to toggle my mouse and keyboard between machines. I was very excited by the reviews, but am completely disappointed by it in the flesh. I am curios to hear if anyone has experienced the same issues, or if I have lost the electronics lottery on this one? Issues: 1. KVM switch doesnt work. After powering up i can use KVM once, but post that i cant return to the original device via KVM OR Input select. After about 20s of thinking time it just reverts back to the same source. If i turn off and on the monitor it will work again, but once only...WTF!! Moving cables from PC to Laptop was less of an inconvenience. 2. Image will just cut out at random and i get the OSD resolution for a few seconds 3. Backlight bleed is shocking, all four corners look to be lit up by MCG flood lights 4. An issue i only discovered this morning, it doesn't automatically power down once ive shut down my PC. Turned off my PC last night, came in this morning to a bright room as the monitor backlights were still on...WTF?? 5. Not a fault but just something to NOTE: the PD via USB C is a joke 5V 2A - if youre looking for a one cable solution for your laptop this isnt it...which is bizzare for a monitor thats got a KVM...OR in my case has a KVM button that doesnt do anything....
Your review was the reason I bought a m27q. Single overdrive was the main reason I went with it over competitors. The new model is a downgrade in my opinion.
@@Flyingboots1 set it and forget it overdrive mode is hugely important. The newer model loses that and doesn't gain anything of value in return. Thus making the different panel a downgrade imo. It's a must have feature on high end monitors and it was amazing to get at this price point.
@@Grantly420 I agree, one of the main reasons I got the M27Q, as well. I'm one of those people who actually changes their refresh rate often, depending on the type of game or content they're doing. So having one-fits-all is very convenient. Plus, I think the picture and color quality of the M27Q is great. Sure, there are probably better alternatives, but the grass is always greener. The BRG layout never bothered me either after I set it up right with that Windows ClearType thing. I think it's a simple case that if you're currently buying a new monitor with these specs and don't care much single overdrive settings, then there's no reason not to get the new M27Q-P variant. If you already have a M27Q, then there's no reason to bother with the M27Q-P variant, unless you want to run more than one monitor. That's my takeaway, at least.
In my home market this monitor is about 430 €, which makes it more expensive than the 27GP850, which costs below 350 €. Probably not worth getting for this price, but it might drop over time. Nice review as always!!!!
What can you say about the M32QC? there are almost no reviews, but I would like to know what is the difference from the G32QC (how strong ghosting, etc...)
Thanks for another great review! A question: are you planning any more reviews of budget 1440p 144+Hz monitors? Looking at US pricing, there's a surprising amount of options out there in the ~$250 range, and given the decent performance of that HP I'm curious as to how the rest of the crop measures up. Given how well these Gigabyte M monitors perform, I'd be interested in seeing the G27Q reviewed.
Couldn't find a M27Q anywhere so went with the LG 27GP83B instead. Cheaper and better in most tests. Contrast isn't quite as good, but other than that I am happy with my choice.
In my region the LG 27gp850 is 330 euros, would you still reccomend it? If I should look for other 1440p 27inch alternatives like the mag 274qrf-qd or the Samsung g7?
I hate it when I see different response times in different refresh rates cause you rarely play locked to max refresh rate and use free sync most of the times
Again and again, thank so much for the excellent in-depth analysis. Particularly, I love the HUB essentials checklist. It's unbelievable how "1ms response time" and "DisplayHDR 400" are just blatant lies and false advertising.
Anyone know how 1080p videos look on this monitor? A lot of UA-cam stuff is only 1080p and I believe you have to pay extra for 4k Netflix. I'd prefer to go with 1440 if the 1080p videos don't look bad. Also, my work laptop is locked at 1080p. Anyone know how bad that would look if I ran it into this monitor?
dont get me wrong or something but in the original review the avarage response time was 5,19 with picture quality enabled and in this review is the response time is 9.20 so whats with the difference?
I found a video he did on this where he said he was measuring response times not between black and white, but a dark grey and greyish white. So basically the old response times are too generous and you should be careful about videos before 2021-02-12
tbh the OG m27q was already great and i personally never had any issues with the bgr layout. plus i value the single overdrive experience way more. imo the older version is still the go to esp since it’s on sale (now it being the older model too)
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
@@bartholomewdam5592 sorry i never replied to this. I was on a study abroad so I left my old set up at home but i never had any quality issues at all. backlight glow was average for a budget monitor. i used it for my pc and switch and had no problems at all. can't wait to move into my new place and get the set up going again, i actually miss using that monitor it was so good
We have here the M27Q-AP is there any difference with this variant? Also useage wise, is there a KVM function for the MSI MAG274QRF-QD compared to this M27Q -P which is being marketed as KVM enabled monitor???
@@Apurbo_ thats probably for the 32inh version. Don't know the model specifically but there was one since ive come across MSI vids that advertises them
What is going on here? I'm comparing your "Best Gray To Gray" performance from the M27Q bar chart comparison on the M27Q non P review to this video and that number was 5.19. Why is it 9.20 on this video?
The best part is the kvm usb c should now charge laptops at 15W It’s very slow but if you just leave the lappy plugged in it should suffice for the work day. Can anyone confirm it does charge tho?
if the laptop is k.o it will ask for a proper charger, but if it's full it seems it's enough in order not to discharge. So 1 thunderbolt usb-c cable (not included) and you can i.e. plugin your work laptop to home-desktop setup.
If only the 4k monitors werent so expensive. The price gap between good 1440p and good 4k is too large imo. You can get 180Hz 1440p for 300€ but the same size decent 144Hz 4k is like 550+€
Edit: seems like what @bepis and nuggers pointed out, I was too early watching the vid to be given the privilege by our UA-cam gods to be given the 1440p/4k option. Well, cheers to a good vid! Original comment: Since we're talking about 1440p monitors being adopted more and more, are you planning to upload videos in 1440p or better any time soon? Sure, 1440p may be targeted more towards gamers who gonna game, but I'm starting to find it jarring to watch 1080p videos on 1440p monitors nowadays, especially when it's very noticeable with how the graphs aren't not as crisp to look at in full screen.
Its funny 4K TVs r now the standard yet traditional TV is all 720-1080p still (not internet based TV but just live TV) and some internet TV too (aka some shows on streaming services or utube ect).
@@stealthhunter6998 well just like when 1080p was standard, traditional TVs were all black and white/color CRTs still. Barely any even in flat most of them with curved CRT glass.
What about Backlightbleed? I have a LGGN850 and the BLB is so horrible, that i have a very noticeable colorshift from one corner to the other. It is especially noticeable in the Taskbar, Its going from blue in the left to an orange color in the right. Yes my BLB comes on several different colors... Sadly i needed a Monitor at that time and the Refund-Timeframe ran out. It is sitting in the Box for a Year now...
Great review! I have always been watching this channel for detailed reviews. With the pricing in our location has dropped, this is well suited for my budget so I ended up buying it. But is there a way to get the best calibrated settings that HUB used for testing? Though I am currently okay with how the monitor looks and feels to my eyes while I game, I would still want to have the best experience for my purchase. And I don't have the budget to buy a color testing device just to calibrate this monitor. Thank you to anyone that would answer. Happy gaming everyone!
I've been reading reviews on amazon and there's plenty of complaints of backlight bleed and the kvm not working or failing shortly after purchasing and after purchase support being poor. Wondering if people can confirm if they've had such issues
If a monitor is 170hz does 60FPS look like 60FPS the same way it does if 60FPS was displayed on a 60hz monitor or no? Does it degrade? Has someone made a video explaining what all these monitor things mean that they talk about because I would like to know more about it? Since monitor issues seem to plague me.
Depends, if the monitor has adaptive sync and you enable it, then it should look the same. If not it will look worse, because it will tear all over the place. But I think you can set most high refresh screens to 60hz if adaptive sync is not an option.
@@matejnemec3022 Sry not great at monitor stuff. How do I find the adaptive sync settings? In nvidia control panel? Should it be turned on/what’s it’s actual function?
you set Vertical sync to Adaptive in 3D settings in the nvidia control panel. Obviously in only has an effect if your monitor is Adaptive Sync capable.
I never understand naming conventions for monitors. M27Q P is newer than M27Q X? Performance vs Extreme? Only difference is refresh rate? Damn, at least make it easy to understand the differences between sub models guys.
I suggest to review the iiyama G-MASTER GB2770QSU-B1 Red Eagle as it's priced similar at least in my region (EU). Contrast ratio of over 1000:1, >500nits.
From the European consumer standpoint, I'm not seeing the value proposition from the M27Q P (€450). The MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD (€400) still is the bracket champion. Better response time /cumulative deviation control, better build quality, better quality control. All that being said, for an extra 50euros over the price of the M27Q P, the M27Q X can be had at €500 (for that 240Hz value). Was hoping to get the M27Q X for €450 two days ago but it was out of stock so went with the mag274qrf-qd instead.
@@kylerobinson6102 So the M32Q going back and forth seems to win in most charts outside of .5ms lag is higher on the m32q and a little more power consumption (larger screen), little less Color space not as bright as this one
I wonder if you guys (or anyone) able to update the monitor to F03 firmware? I tried using the OSD Sidekick software to update my monitor firmware but to no avail. It says the update is finished but the monitor is still on F02.
@Nate oh, it’s been great so far! Running games like destiny 2/stray are super smooth! As a workstation is amazing as well! The kvm feature is a blessing for those who work on more than one system.
Good day!!! Planning to get 1440p monitor and need your advise.. should I get Benq Mobius EX2710q or the Gigabyte M27Q-P? Really torn on what 1440p monitor should i get
The back buttons are a problem when you have multiple monitors. If you have one right next to it, you can't use them. There is a bewel, just put them there. Also why bother with HDMI when most cards have DP that is in every way better.
Right now it's $299 but I'm wondering if I should spend $100 more for an Msi model with G sync or even more than that for a 240hz 1440p monitor... Is G sync worth caring about with a 3080?
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Please review the new Nvidia E-sports monitors: 1440p 300/360hz, etc. :) - Suppose to come out this year
Can I Do 1440p @120hz over HDMI using the Xbox Series X on the Gygabyte Monitor?
@@FenixPajarito yes
Which one do you recommend for work and casual gaming, this GIGABYTE M27Q-P or ASUS PROART PA278QV?
Which one do you recommend for work and casual gaming, this GIGABYTE M27Q-P or ASUS PROART PA278QV?
For those who have the previous model. There is a tool for Windows called "Better ClearType Tuner". This fixes the BGR in Windows, In many Linux distributions you can either select subpixel layout in the display settings, or usually it's built into the monitor profile.
How does this handle multiple monitors? I have the old OG M27Q and a Dell with RGB layout as my secondary display
@@UltimateWobbleBoss if you have a mixed setup of RGB and BGR monitors, you will never have text look properly on all of them. Most software is just incapable of redrawing text the moment it leaves one monitor and lands on another, when you move a window, and doesn't evaluate the DirectWrite ClearType settings as well.
The background for this conclusion is that I was specifically looking to buy the Gigabyte monitor, but also keep my current display as secondary, and I just tested all the software that I have and use whether it can even handle it, with fake settings and screenshots and using both standard and this alternative ClearType tuner and I even dove into Qt source code to check what it does.
You can naturally flip your Gigabyte upside down but I don't know if it's great for games.
I also didn't buy the Gigabyte due to a spectacular accumulation of customer reports of defects that just shouldn't happen, like missing blotches of pixels, plus because of how they handle warranty and products flaws, which is to say as sloppily as humanly possible.
@@SianaGearz putting monitor upside-down to fix BGR is genius!
@@GewelReal disables vsync and other techs
@@Rafaelinux mhm I suppose you can flip the other monitor, if it's only for text and secondary use, upside down into BGR, and keep Gigabyte in its native orientation. In fact Dell monitors are fairly well built, seems actually more likely to physically survive that than Gigabyte.
I've had my M27Q for about 8 months or so now I believe, and I've been told it's BGR, though I've never noticed any issues with text. It's a great monitor if you want 1440p with a pretty high refreshrate
Can u tell me what’s the difference between ur virsion and m27q p ?
@@i3mdax The video is literally about you question...
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
@@40_mikemike50 i want a summary 🙂🙂🙂🙂
you might have gotten the rev 2.0 then I think
I LOVE your monitor reviews (All your content really)! I went with the MSI MAG274QRF-QD monitor a few months ago based on your reviews and I absolutely love it.
Same here, nice monitor
Got mine two days ago, I love it!
I'm planning to buy that one!
How's the color quality? I know there's a firmware update that can tone down the occasional oversaturation.
Please take care of your warranty I bought a viewsonic vx2758 2kp mhd from Newegg the listing says 3 year warranty it broke down last month and not newegg not the seller not even viewsonic it self covered the warranty.
It went like this newegg said the seller can list whatever warranty promises he wants it's not enforceable, the seller didn't respond to my messages basically saying **** you, viewsonic is the real kicker saying in your country we only offer 2 years of warranty instead of 3 and even thought it is hasn't been 2 years we won't be able to help you because we don't sell that model in your country and we don't offer global warranty.
Thank you for making such great review, it helps a lot!
Thank you, glad it was helpful.
Once properly configured, I never had an issue with my M27Q. But this new model removes any possible complaints.
How do you properly configure yours? I just bought one a month or two ago at their recommendation, but kind of regret it now that there’s a new P version and a better 270hz version too.
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
Picked this up for $269.00 on NewEgg, after taxes $293.00. Fantastic budget moniter now, no dead pixels in sight and back light bleed seems to be non existent on my unit. I think I got pretty danm lucky.
Currently 289 after a year of you posting this. That’s crazy, you would think it would have dropped in price.
@FernDaawg you plan on getting the m27q p? I'm still dint know which monitor to go for 😭
@@tactictense9145 same I’ve been debating on getting the m27q pro or the acer nitro 27” 1500r curved. I’m new to monitors but The acer will be on sale for Black Friday on Walmart for $145 and it has pretty good specs but I’ve been thinking about getting the m27q pro for a while now. I’d only use it for console now but I want to eventually upgrade to pc
Yipee, always happy to see another 1440p display review. Thank you for the amazing work!
It really is the best resolution for a crisp image and fast framerates at a remotely reasonable budget for screens 32 inches or less. I wish OLEDs in this res would make an appearance though.
Was hoping to see a review for this when looking for monitors the other day and would probably have bought it if there was stock in the UK. I went with an MSI monitor instead, but nice to know I wouldn't have made a mistake buying this one.
Which is better msi or this cuz i need to buy one does gigabyte have color like msi?
Finally, I've been waiting for this! With BGR layout fixed this is the best budget monitor. I really need that KVM switch since I'm working from home.
What do you use the kvm feature for?
@@Camhin1 In my case, for docking a work laptop & having the devices in the monitor's USB hub (eg. Keyboard & Mouse, Audio pass through) connect directly without needing to unplug anything from my home desktop.
Agreed. This will probably be the monitor I upgrade to 1440p with
@@InnuendoXP Exactly this :)
budget not really cheapest here is 450 €, got my m27q for 350 i think
Picked up the M27Q P for £300 on Amazon. The M27Q is listed for £409 right now, so it’s a no brainer. Found it difficult to find a decent 1440P IPS high refresh rate monitor at £300 or lower, the M27Q P seems to be the best monitor in this price range in the UK right now.
It's been 3 months was it worth it? (I'm looking for a new monitor lol)
@@rafaelruiz902 yes absolutely worth it if you can pick it up for around £300.
Picked the M27Q because of your video. I'm not really affected with the BGR layout, though I do get dizzy reading when going back to regular 1080p RGB pixel layout.
Thank you very much to hardware unboxed could not afford one of the calibrating tools so I came across your channel while trying to find recommend settings and your icc profile and osd setting have made such a massive difference to my monitor thanks again
I hope this message finds its way to you so you know I’m greatly for your hard work
Picked one of these up a few weeks ago. I’m really happy with it!
It replaced my old ASUS TN 144hz for FPS games.
My 4k TV died about 3 days after I bought it, so it’s currently my main content consumption device… now I just need Disney+ to let me stream high res to my PC!
I'll buy that ASUS 144 hz haha. I'm still playing on 60hz and it hurts 🤕🤕🤕
It hertz haha 😂
Do you notice any ghosting or smearing coming from the 144hz?
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
This monitor just dropped to $280 on amazon… best deal you could possibly get on a monitor ever. just bought it, hope it comes in great.
I can't find it on Amazon but it's on Newegg for 280, might have to get it
@@MountainMitchYT i got the monitor. works great, i would recommend buying it. the one i got has quite a bit of ips glow, but it’s almost unnoticeable in games and if you get one it will likely have less than mine, as it varies from panel to panel.
@@eliothummer8919 I just bought mine too. I was torn between it and the LG 27GL83A-B. But I figured since it's better than the gigabyte m27q, plus cheaper, I'd get one. Definetly concerned about the lack of reviews hoping I get a good panel. It sounds like getting a bad panel isn't even that bad like you're saying tho.
@@MountainMitchYT yes. the lower left corner for my panel was the worst, but the other three were pretty good in terms of ips glow. even then, the lower left panel is very manageable. that corner is noticeable, but only in black/pretty dark scenes.
@@MountainMitchYT Hey man. How is the LG Ultragear serving you so far? Thanks!
Hey Hardware Unboxed, your Gray-To-Gray testing is pretty good, but you could take the next step and measure pre-ringing and post-ringing. You could do that using a high-speed data acquisition device. It doesn't have to cost a lot.
Except for testing time.
They already measure 3-97%, please don't tell me you think you can see some 0.5% of ringing...
@@0xCAFEF00D indeed, that's the main cost, but what I'm saying is the setup to measure this can be inexpensive, so it's a low cost toentry.
@@cheater00 does anyone really care that much about pinging, or even know what it is? lol
@@tehMaloWalo ringing not pinging, and yes, it's very visible. In a recent LTT video Linus mentioned he bought some new sensors for oscilloscopes to test pixel response curves - and that's exactly what he'll be doing - exactly the thing I described above. He mentioned it *after* I wrote the comment :)
Finally RGB pixel layout. Woohoo
Please test some more budget 1440p 34" ultrawide monitors with decent colour accuracy and flat panel with 144hz or above.
Seems like expecting too much on budget haha
Testing the new 4K240Hz monitor or the announced 1080p500Hz one would be interesting.
Awesome review. Good to know that the BGR was taken away, they desperately needed that.
Could you look at the MSI G273QF? It's apparently a fantastic monitor and really on the cheap side.
There's also the MSI G273QPF. Pretty sure it's the same panel but with a better stand.
Keep up the good work!
I have a MSI monitor
PC tech is like falling in love with a hooker, you are paying to have your heart broken. All kidding aside I do like the 27q I've had since last year if the newer one is even better it's going to be a hit.
I love my M27Q. It has a beautiful picture and you can change it to exactly how you like to have your settings.
Makes me glad I got the S2721DGF on a super discount recently (under $400 CAD). I didn’t miss out on anything, since I was cross shopping the M27Q
How is it? Are you satisfied with your purchase?
Where? Can't find them in stock.
I've had a m27q original for a while now and I've loved it its been great recently though one pixel died and since I've noticed it I can't stop seeing it
thanks to you , now is the right time to spring for that lg gp850, its been on my list for a while now
M27Q had a single overdrive settings of picture quality in you review for older model I guess, and you guys showed of 5ms response time
I loved that checklist at the end.
I am torn between this monitor and the HP x27q. I would choose the x27q because of the lower price but I am afraid that the image quality and colors wont be very good since the previous tests have positioned it at the bottom of the list. Is there really a big image and quality difference between this monitor and the x27q enough to make me want to pay the extra ~100 dollars?
No spend within your means
I may be getting this one tbh just purely for the cpmpetstive gaming aspect. I'll use my oled tv for the single player games. Yet again proving the only true 1ms response time display on the market is an oled as it's almost always around 1 to 2ms regardless
The minimum brightness being so high at 96 nits (11:30) is a deal breaker for wanting to use it in a dark room.
FOR ALL NEW PEOPLE LOOKING TO BUY A MONITOR
go for dell g2724d
much cheaper and better version of this monitor
But the gigabyte one is on sale
Thank you so much buddy 🤠
Thanks, I was hesitant about the gigabyte due to many complaints about backlight bleed on amazon reviews and I heard gigabyte is a nightmare for customer support.
got a dell s2721dgf for 300 a little while ago glad to see it in the list
M27Q is actually a reasonable enough name, and I'm worried that they're adding onto it.
Help me choose the gigabyte M27Q-P vs LG 27gp850 .
Which is better
I think Gigabyte do make some good quality, and reasonably priced monitors. I've had the M28U and have throughly enjoyed it
Just snagged one off Newegg for $280. Bought it instead of the hp x27q since so many people complained of the panel switch. The LG 27GL83A-B is also $280, honestly wasn't sure if it was better or worse than the M27Q-P, but still went with the M27Q-P. It's crazy this one is cheaper than the normal M27Q which is running at $300 right now. I hope I got the right one, on Newegg it says "M27Q-PRO" instead of "M27Q-P".
how do u like it so far??
Thank you very much for the video. Besides 170 Hz and slightly higher lag I do not see any downsides compared to M27Q X, which I could get for 200€ less in Europe at the moment. Any other features which are really better in M27Q X?
I wish it's 10c here too, darn summer heat, it's 26c here at 6am with 80+% humidity, I always get ur vids in the morning, always great reviews
I have the original model and LOVE it! With a BGR fix thats even better, cannot recommend enough this is THE monitor to have if you have a sensible budget
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
Just upgraded to this from a 1080p 75hz display I bought back in 2017. I didn't know how much of an improvement this would be.
I really enjoy watching your content as it is packed with details and important information! I'm actually looking to purchase my first gaming monitor. I have my eye on this one but I also hear great reviews from Xiaomi's 27" 2K 165hz monitor. Hopefully, you can consider reviewing that, as well. Cheers!
Way too expensive here in Europe for what it provides.
Seems on par with the LG 27GP850 in this test, which can be had on discount for 300€.
This is 150 more here, not to mention that's it's a Gigabyte lol
Is it better than gp850?
judging from Tim's test results I'd say their performance are very close to each other.
Bought this monitor (m27qp) as a single monitor replacement for my 2k work and 1080p gaming screen, and so i would no longer have to toggle my mouse and keyboard between machines. I was very excited by the reviews, but am completely disappointed by it in the flesh. I am curios to hear if anyone has experienced the same issues, or if I have lost the electronics lottery on this one?
Issues:
1. KVM switch doesnt work. After powering up i can use KVM once, but post that i cant return to the original device via KVM OR Input select. After about 20s of thinking time it just reverts back to the same source. If i turn off and on the monitor it will work again, but once only...WTF!! Moving cables from PC to Laptop was less of an inconvenience.
2. Image will just cut out at random and i get the OSD resolution for a few seconds
3. Backlight bleed is shocking, all four corners look to be lit up by MCG flood lights
4. An issue i only discovered this morning, it doesn't automatically power down once ive shut down my PC. Turned off my PC last night, came in this morning to a bright room as the monitor backlights were still on...WTF??
5. Not a fault but just something to NOTE: the PD via USB C is a joke 5V 2A - if youre looking for a one cable solution for your laptop this isnt it...which is bizzare for a monitor thats got a KVM...OR in my case has a KVM button that doesnt do anything....
can't wait for more oled monitors, its on another level
Agreed. Last monitor I'll ever buy. Couldn't care less about anything else.
@@drunkhusband6257 For say, flight sims, I agree. Everyday usage though, no. To each their own.
Your review was the reason I bought a m27q. Single overdrive was the main reason I went with it over competitors. The new model is a downgrade in my opinion.
Why? Are you trying to keep from getting buyers remorse?
@@Flyingboots1 set it and forget it overdrive mode is hugely important. The newer model loses that and doesn't gain anything of value in return. Thus making the different panel a downgrade imo. It's a must have feature on high end monitors and it was amazing to get at this price point.
@@Grantly420 I agree, one of the main reasons I got the M27Q, as well. I'm one of those people who actually changes their refresh rate often, depending on the type of game or content they're doing. So having one-fits-all is very convenient. Plus, I think the picture and color quality of the M27Q is great. Sure, there are probably better alternatives, but the grass is always greener. The BRG layout never bothered me either after I set it up right with that Windows ClearType thing.
I think it's a simple case that if you're currently buying a new monitor with these specs and don't care much single overdrive settings, then there's no reason not to get the new M27Q-P variant. If you already have a M27Q, then there's no reason to bother with the M27Q-P variant, unless you want to run more than one monitor. That's my takeaway, at least.
Picked this up for my brother in-law at newegg last week for 250 for xmas. Seems like a good budget option especially for that price.
How has it been so far?
He really likes it so far and it's held up. No oled or anything but if you can get it for 300 or less it's still probably a good pick up.@@Playerism
In my home market this monitor is about 430 €, which makes it more expensive than the 27GP850, which costs below 350 €. Probably not worth getting for this price, but it might drop over time. Nice review as always!!!!
Got mine at 329€ in Netherlands hehe
I mean the M27q P
Your larger neighbour does not get it that cheaply sadly. Would just get 27GP850 then instead. Good experiences with the monitor? ;D
@@dynastes4938 yup, it's a good one
What can you say about the M32QC? there are almost no reviews, but I would like to know what is the difference from the G32QC (how strong ghosting, etc...)
Thanks for another great review! A question: are you planning any more reviews of budget 1440p 144+Hz monitors? Looking at US pricing, there's a surprising amount of options out there in the ~$250 range, and given the decent performance of that HP I'm curious as to how the rest of the crop measures up. Given how well these Gigabyte M monitors perform, I'd be interested in seeing the G27Q reviewed.
0:48 So the panel is now less... sharp?
How does this compare to the M32Q? I was wondering if this is just a smaller version of it considering they're both RGB panels.
Couldn't find a M27Q anywhere so went with the LG 27GP83B instead. Cheaper and better in most tests. Contrast isn't quite as good, but other than that I am happy with my choice.
I love this channel but i always regret any purchase i make when videos like this are posted lol. I bought the alienware aw2721d 1440p 240hz
i cant wait for OLED to become mainstream. that alienware panel you guys looked at with 0-1.8ish ms response times actually gave me a chub
I hope oled does but it doesn’t look like that’s happening anytime soon
In my region the LG 27gp850 is 330 euros, would you still reccomend it? If I should look for other 1440p 27inch alternatives like the mag 274qrf-qd or the Samsung g7?
I hate it when I see different response times in different refresh rates cause you rarely play locked to max refresh rate and use free sync most of the times
Again and again, thank so much for the excellent in-depth analysis. Particularly, I love the HUB essentials checklist. It's unbelievable how "1ms response time" and "DisplayHDR 400" are just blatant lies and false advertising.
It is. They added True black display HDR and lowered the standard for HDR. It’s a money grab really lol
Hdr 400 plus no dimming zones is Fake Hdr.
Really informative review, thank you!
Anyone know how 1080p videos look on this monitor? A lot of UA-cam stuff is only 1080p and I believe you have to pay extra for 4k Netflix. I'd prefer to go with 1440 if the 1080p videos don't look bad. Also, my work laptop is locked at 1080p. Anyone know how bad that would look if I ran it into this monitor?
How about the M27Q-P ($250) versus the M27Q-X ($370)?? Other than the difference in Hz, they seem mostly similar. Is it worth it to get the X?
dont get me wrong or something but in the original review the avarage response time was 5,19 with picture quality enabled and in this review is the response time is 9.20 so whats with the difference?
I found a video he did on this where he said he was measuring response times not between black and white, but a dark grey and greyish white. So basically the old response times are too generous and you should be careful about videos before 2021-02-12
Quick Question for anyone : WHICH MONITOR ?
Gigabyte M27Q / M32Q
LG 27gp850-b / 32gp850
tbh the OG m27q was already great and i personally never had any issues with the bgr layout. plus i value the single overdrive experience way more. imo the older version is still the go to esp since it’s on sale (now it being the older model too)
Do you have any quality issues with it? I recently bought it and now im reading reviews about it having defects. For example, pple are ranting about it having dead and stuck pixels. How long have you owned the monitor? thanks for the help.
@@bartholomewdam5592 sorry i never replied to this. I was on a study abroad so I left my old set up at home but i never had any quality issues at all. backlight glow was average for a budget monitor. i used it for my pc and switch and had no problems at all. can't wait to move into my new place and get the set up going again, i actually miss using that monitor it was so good
do you know the measurements from the back of the stand to the monitor?
thanks
Gigabyte M27q-P, HP X27, or LG 27GL83A for the same price?
We have here the M27Q-AP is there any difference with this variant? Also useage wise, is there a KVM function for the MSI MAG274QRF-QD compared to this M27Q -P which is being marketed as KVM enabled monitor???
There's no KVM functionality in the MSI one
@@Apurbo_ thats probably for the 32inh version. Don't know the model specifically but there was one since ive come across MSI vids that advertises them
@@petekaiser I don't know about others but the 274QRF-QD doesn't have one
What is going on here? I'm comparing your "Best Gray To Gray" performance from the M27Q bar chart comparison on the M27Q non P review to this video and that number was 5.19. Why is it 9.20 on this video?
Because they have changed their testing since that older review.
The best part is the kvm usb c should now charge laptops at 15W
It’s very slow but if you just leave the lappy plugged in it should suffice for the work day.
Can anyone confirm it does charge tho?
It's 18W according to the website
if the laptop is k.o it will ask for a proper charger, but if it's full it seems it's enough in order not to discharge. So 1 thunderbolt usb-c cable (not included) and you can i.e. plugin your work laptop to home-desktop setup.
If only the 4k monitors werent so expensive. The price gap between good 1440p and good 4k is too large imo. You can get 180Hz 1440p for 300€ but the same size decent 144Hz 4k is like 550+€
With those prices you are actually paying less per pixel for the 4k display.
Bro I've been running 1080p 60hz I need a 1440p 180hz that would be ridiculous. I'm not really concerned with 4k right now at least
Can you find and review a good 4k 60gz screen?
which is better between Gigabyte M27Q rev 2.0 or AOC Q27G2SD?
Thought this was going to better than M27Q X version :( Just go with a LG 27GP850 180hz monitor instead.
How good is the upscaling on this monitor? Does 1080p video content look almost as good as they do on a 1080p screen?
trying to decide between this and the viewsonic xg270Q. Both of them seem great. Playing on PC and xbox one x. Also used for office work.
Should I return my new M27Q P to the seller if I see yellowish whites on the left? It takes about 15%-30% of screen space.
What’s the difference between m27q p and m27q
Edit: seems like what @bepis and nuggers pointed out, I was too early watching the vid to be given the privilege by our UA-cam gods to be given the 1440p/4k option. Well, cheers to a good vid!
Original comment:
Since we're talking about 1440p monitors being adopted more and more, are you planning to upload videos in 1440p or better any time soon? Sure, 1440p may be targeted more towards gamers who gonna game, but I'm starting to find it jarring to watch 1080p videos on 1440p monitors nowadays, especially when it's very noticeable with how the graphs aren't not as crisp to look at in full screen.
What do you mean? Videos are in 4k? Meaning 1440p as well.
@@sermerlin1 they're in 1080p 60
Its funny 4K TVs r now the standard yet traditional TV is all 720-1080p still (not internet based TV but just live TV) and some internet TV too (aka some shows on streaming services or utube ect).
@@airportcs4828 nope. 1080/1440/2160p 60. If you can't see more then 1080p then it's something with your device/PC.
@@stealthhunter6998 well just like when 1080p was standard, traditional TVs were all black and white/color CRTs still. Barely any even in flat most of them with curved CRT glass.
What about Backlightbleed? I have a LGGN850 and the BLB is so horrible, that i have a very noticeable colorshift from one corner to the other. It is especially noticeable in the Taskbar, Its going from blue in the left to an orange color in the right. Yes my BLB comes on several different colors... Sadly i needed a Monitor at that time and the Refund-Timeframe ran out. It is sitting in the Box for a Year now...
Bro just tell me which one is better m27q p or lg27gp850p-b
Great review! I have always been watching this channel for detailed reviews. With the pricing in our location has dropped, this is well suited for my budget so I ended up buying it. But is there a way to get the best calibrated settings that HUB used for testing? Though I am currently okay with how the monitor looks and feels to my eyes while I game, I would still want to have the best experience for my purchase. And I don't have the budget to buy a color testing device just to calibrate this monitor. Thank you to anyone that would answer. Happy gaming everyone!
I've been reading reviews on amazon and there's plenty of complaints of backlight bleed and the kvm not working or failing shortly after purchasing and after purchase support being poor. Wondering if people can confirm if they've had such issues
If a monitor is 170hz does 60FPS look like 60FPS the same way it does if 60FPS was displayed on a 60hz monitor or no? Does it degrade?
Has someone made a video explaining what all these monitor things mean that they talk about because I would like to know more about it? Since monitor issues seem to plague me.
Depends, if the monitor has adaptive sync and you enable it, then it should look the same. If not it will look worse, because it will tear all over the place. But I think you can set most high refresh screens to 60hz if adaptive sync is not an option.
@@matejnemec3022 Sry not great at monitor stuff. How do I find the adaptive sync settings? In nvidia control panel? Should it be turned on/what’s it’s actual function?
you set Vertical sync to Adaptive in 3D settings in the nvidia control panel. Obviously in only has an effect if your monitor is Adaptive Sync capable.
@@ceejay2k2 Yeah my monitor is capable of it so i'll give it a go. Does vsync havbe to be enabled in the game for it to take effect?
@@stealthhunter6998 yes you enable vsync in game, and if possible to choose refreshrate in game choose the highest one aswell.
I never understand naming conventions for monitors. M27Q P is newer than M27Q X? Performance vs Extreme? Only difference is refresh rate? Damn, at least make it easy to understand the differences between sub models guys.
Same problem lol
Does type c support PD? if yes how many watt?
Hello mate, if you have to choose between the gigabyte m27q-p and the LG 27gp850-b which one would you choose and why? Thank you!
I suggest to review the iiyama G-MASTER GB2770QSU-B1 Red Eagle as it's priced similar at least in my region (EU).
Contrast ratio of over 1000:1, >500nits.
The sharp panel had good contrast and blb/ips glow
Good to know that I don't need to replace my M27Q.
From the European consumer standpoint, I'm not seeing the value proposition from the M27Q P (€450). The MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD (€400) still is the bracket champion. Better response time /cumulative deviation control, better build quality, better quality control. All that being said, for an extra 50euros over the price of the M27Q P, the M27Q X can be had at €500 (for that 240Hz value). Was hoping to get the M27Q X for €450 two days ago but it was out of stock so went with the mag274qrf-qd instead.
Wish this was compared to the M32q which seems amazingly similar
I actually almost bought one of these about 2 weeks ago. It's a hell of a nice monitor in person I can tell you that.
@@kylerobinson6102 I have a M32q, I absolutely love it
@@SireSalty I’m gonna take the plunge when I’ve got enough cheddar. I have an aging Rog Swift monitor that’s started flickering as of late.
@@kylerobinson6102 So the M32Q going back and forth seems to win in most charts outside of .5ms lag is higher on the m32q and a little more power consumption (larger screen), little less Color space not as bright as this one
I wonder if you guys (or anyone) able to update the monitor to F03 firmware? I tried using the OSD Sidekick software to update my monitor firmware but to no avail. It says the update is finished but the monitor is still on F02.
this or the Rev2.0 version?
This or MAG274QRF-QD?
Edit: 15:23
Thanks!
Newegg has this model for 273 usd, so it was a no brained for me. Excited to receive it in a few days
@Nate oh, it’s been great so far! Running games like destiny 2/stray are super smooth! As a workstation is amazing as well! The kvm feature is a blessing for those who work on more than one system.
Gigabyte: fixing a problem that wasn't supposed to be there in the first place...
Love this monitor. But they seem to have discontinued it in Aus? Picked one up for $460 in June and there seems to be no more stock.
Good day!!! Planning to get 1440p monitor and need your advise.. should I get Benq Mobius EX2710q or the Gigabyte M27Q-P? Really torn on what 1440p monitor should i get
Great review Tim.🙂🎉
It would be nice if you check up the Acer Nitro XV272U KV. It might be a solid contender against M27Q-P but available in some more regions.
I was very confused between those two monitor, what is better in your opinion? I want to buy one of them
The back buttons are a problem when you have multiple monitors. If you have one right next to it, you can't use them. There is a bewel, just put them there. Also why bother with HDMI when most cards have DP that is in every way better.
Right now it's $299 but I'm wondering if I should spend $100 more for an Msi model with G sync or even more than that for a 240hz 1440p monitor... Is G sync worth caring about with a 3080?