Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken | The 6 Kid Review
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Are your kids looking forward to this one or is it swimming under your radar?
I didn’t even know it was coming out. Hardly any commercialization before now. Kinda the same for that Nimona film from Netflix. Wouldn’t mind seeing a review on that from you as well.
Mate, I AM that kid!
Gotta admit I've never heard of it, but my kids are grown.
As I expected, nope I'm not interested in it.
when I saw the first trailer I was mildly interested, then I saw the second trailer with the general plot of the movie and it completely lost me. Mostly because I had seen puss in boots last year and its kinda hard to compete with that.
People need to realize DreamWorks is a very 50/50 studio who kinda does whatever they want. For every how to train your dragon you get a boss baby.
They're the Targaryen of animation studios. Flip a coin and their next film will either be a profound masterpiece or forgotten in a day. There's almost no in-between with this studio.
@@matthewmazzatto8003Actually, they did have consecutive hits with Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2
@@RB01.10 Bad Guys barely broke even. It was a cute film with good animation and a couple great characters (Wolf and Snake), but it only made $250M at the box office. Half of that ticket revenue split goes to theaters. The only true hit Dreamworks has had since Covid began was Puss in Boots 2.
My kind of studio
@@matthewmazzatto8003 Every source I looked at said the $250 million gross was considered a box office success though
The general rule is a film has to at least make double its budget back to be considered successful and it did (its budget was $80 million)
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I would have liked the movie better if Chelsea got redeemed or had a genuine friendship with Ruby. But that’s just me.
Edit: wow over 250 likes, I guess it’s not just me. A lot of people felt the same way.
Yep, in the end villains depend on their movie's context
Monster High did it better in Great Scarrier Reef. There may be a lot of plotholes but at least the message is clear.
that bathroom scene they released before the movie came really threw us off. it got people thinking that maybe chelsea wasn’t the villain after all or that she would end up being redeemed, and it probably would’ve turned out really good if that was the storyline. but sadly, it was just apart of chelsea’s scheme to claim the trident
Same
That would make the movie less generic and thats better
What I wanted to see:
1. Chelsea as a more complex villian, like maybe she had her reasons to hate krakens b/c they destroyed her kingdom.
2. Chelsea would’ve had sirens powers on land, like a “siren call” that made her popular and manipulated Ruby’s crush to love her and not Ruby.
3. Ruby taking responsibility and be a queen or some leader of the ocean.
More evil minions mermaid in the final climax.
That's exactly what I was thinking. This whole movie would've been so much better if Chelsea was actually the queen of the sirens instead of the mermaids. But Dreamworks just had to make her such a predictable and annoying main villain that I couldn't even stand her.
Any of those would’ve added to the film. It’s a sad, flat affair
@@gregowen2022 Thank you. Finally someone said it.
Chelsea isn't evil enough to die
I don't think death would be important in this movie
A parody of the little mermaid + A rehash of Turning Red +A gender-flipped Luca
+ A slightly better version of Rumble = Ruby Gillman
If it's influences are a list of four different things, then it is its own thing at that point. Every movie can be traced back to other movies, so it isn't the insult that some might think it is.
Actually i found the red 🐼 ways More entertaining than the 🦑
i think thats an unfair comparison,
for what it is its a competent coming of age story about kid accepting herself, becareful of people deceptive appearance and learn that their family and friend is always there to support,
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From what I remember, Dreamwork's track record has always been a mixed bag(seemingly by choice).
Low tier: Home, Boss Baby, Trolls
Mid tier: Madagascar, The Croods, Abominable
Upper tier: Shreck, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda
The low and mid tier movies seem to work as placeholders to give them time to develope the bigger movies.
Madagascar for me is high tier. Have you seen Moto Moto
Perfect sum up of the company 😎. Don't forget their 2D films.
High tier: Prince of Egypt, Spirit Stallion of the Cimerron.
Mid Tier: Road to El Dorado, Sinbad Legend of the Seven Seas, and Joseph King of Dreams.
I liked Home
Man i actually loved the croods. The second one was like a drug trip but it worked
I guess people are just so high off hate for Disney and how good Last wish was that we just assumed this had to be another mind blowing film.
But I was honestly pretty sure this was just going to be a poor girls Shrek from the beginning.
It's no better than puss in boots but it's better than what Disney drop like elemental and the little mermaid
@@yourweirduncle4441 actually, I think Elemental is technically better, but Ruby is more enjoyable, probably because it's not trying as hard.
Oddly, they have roughly the same level of quality in their water physics, which considering the latters substantially smaller budget is impressive.
@@yourweirduncle4441 The box office says otherwise. At least Little Mermaid made back its money and then some. Ruby was flat out a BOMB
Actually i found turning red quite good, not the Best of the studio but better executed than this one
Ruby and Chelsea reminded me a lot of MegaMind and MetroMan when they were hanging out but at least in MegaMind´s movie they all surprised us by showing that MetroMan´s perfect superhero life wasn´t any as perfect as it looked like and he just wanted to be a normal human, they did the exact opposite with Chelsea, they want us to believe she is evil just because she is a mermaid or a beautiful popular girl that everyone likes
Also, I loved the part when Chelsea made a reference to Metroman, along these lines:
Someone: I love you Chelsea!
Chelsea: and I love you random someone!
Seriously I wish they would explore the lore of Kraken versus mermaids! I would also like to explore Chelsea’s backstory or motivation for being evil like death, pitch black, Drago,Titan, Ramses and Shen! I would also like to see the backstory for Ruby’s, mom and her grandma
Agreed. Definitely a lot of untapped potential here
Death isn’t evil
Ramsés's malice was God's fault according to exodus...
I knew it. I thought the story seemed kind of like a lame be yourself kind of plot from the trailers and I thought the fact it's so obvious she wasn't human looked kind of dumb.
I just took it as cartoon logic.
when one of DreamWorks movies is bad :
DREAMWORKS SUCKS 😠
From the trailers I thought she only looked like that to the viewers and they would reveal her faux-human form in the movie, and that Chelsea could see right through the disguise. I had too much hope 💀
Meh not much you can do about it, for every Last Wish and Prince of Egypt you also get a Bee Movie or Boss Baby. Can't all be winners, long as it isn't offensively bad I think we'll be okay.
Prince of Egypt and the Dragon movies are why I would pick them to do a Zelda movie, but they've given me enough reason to still have reservation.
They're still a better choice than Illumination though (man, I hope that's just a rumor.)
For every Spider Man Into the Spider Verse, there will always be a Morbius
@@kassaken6521 Having seen Ruby, it is in no way close to Morbius. Like, it's competent and cute, just kind of enjoyably bland.
Dreamworks has always felt like they have Targaryen blood: flip a coin and their next film will either be a profound masterpiece or completely unremarkable. Puss in Boots 2 was the former, Ruby Gillman seems to be the latter.
Definitely not offensively bad, but still a rental to keep your kids quiet, lol.
In other news, I’m glad to see you back making content!
The bait and switch for me is the bathroom scene they had. the original trailer was straight forward. other, later scenes made it seem like the film had more depth.
So yeah. that is a bit of a shame. Especially them not delving deeper into the mother/grandmother relationship. But not upset since this IS a thing with DreamWorks.
Completely agree. They marketed an entirely different movie to us when Chelsea seemed different.
Thing is the social allegory in kids films with fantastical creatures or things "other than human" in a school setting or some other modern setting is just no longer a novelty anymore, and even the better ones of that genre like Zootopia or (to a lesser extent) The Bad Guys are flawed if we're meant to look at them as directly correlated to the social anxieties seen today - fine on their own as entertainment but apples and oranges if they're asking us to see it as some metaphor about racism. I feel the same way about Maus, really... Only something like Fox and the Hound which could be seen as vaguely topical or allegorical but still has a realistic outcome really seems to hit the nail on the head. I haven't seen it and probably won't but I find it so rich that cautiously optimistic fans of Dreamworks were told to shut up and "let Dreamworks cook" after Puss in Boots Last Wish cuz "I trust DW now and they know what they're doing" and THIS is the result lmao - where its only novelty is making a meta joke about white Ariel
Helluvaboss
Which males little Sense: how Is that no one noticed something rare with that blue-skinned girl? At least mei mei from turning red was doing an effort to not have her looking betraying her true nature since It would be VERY noticeable...
The movie is so terribly executed, that gives the opposite message they intent. The fact that the mermaid is predictively evil, validates all the prejudice grandma has. A little twist would had fixed that (that the mermaid actually wanted to be good and teamed up with ruby, but grandma attacked her first upon immediately seen her, so the mermaid changes the mind)
If Disney wrote it
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Ruby's mom was trying to protect her daughter from the dangers of the sea. Ruby has a panic attack when meeting Chelsea who immediately acknowledges she's a kraken. Ruby starts undergoing body changes she's not used too. Out of curiosity Ruby sneaks out one night and dives into the sea in hopes to know more about herself that her mom keeps hiding. She meets her grandma and the kraken population. The grandma is framed as a good guy to trick the audience. When really, she is actually manipulating everyone to think all mermaids are bad. She pressures Ruby into being queen because her daughter bailed out. After that she gets back on land but has to wait a bit to get back to her human form. So, she hides and tries to not make a scene how gigantic she is, but she gets caught and some profession fishermen are called to catch this "beast". She eventually gets back to her human form and goes back home to quickly get ready school. Her parents hear on the news about this. They know it was Ruby, she gets grounded from going anywhere outside of school and told there's no chance she can go to prom.
Ruby goes to school. The whole bathroom scene where Ruby vents out how she feels about not fitting in. Chelsea tells her it's cool to be kraken and convinces her to have a sea girl ditch day. They start to bond and learn about each other. At one point they get attacked by fishermen and Ruby helps save Chelsea who almost gets caught. Ruby is told the next time she sees her grandma that "mermaid are evil." To avoid getting in serious trouble of treason, Ruby hides her friendship with the mermaid. At some point she gets put under pressure and says some rude things about mermaids to seem less suspicious. Chelsea planning to surprise Ruby with a friendship gift, hides and hears this behind the corner. Chelsea turns on Ruby after misreading the situation thinking Ruby is just as bad as her grandma and was planning to trick her. Chelsea then thinks all Krakens are evil, and so she steals the trident, frees the other mermaids, and plans to come back an destroy the Kraken kingdom.
Ruby goes into hiding on land, and eventually her math partner finds her now in her human form upset. Embarrassed for him to find her like this, she tries to avoid eye contact with him and tells him she's sorry he is seeing her like this. He asked what's wrong, she explains what's happened but, in a way, that's still keeping her Kraken secret. He gives her some good advice that helps her realize what she needs to do and quickly runs off while telling him thank you.
Ruby quickly swims back to protect the kingdom by stopping mermaids and krakens from fighting. Ruby reveals and talks about the friendship she had with Chelsea and that they don't need to fight and apologizes for the things she said. Ruby then says somewhere similarly to the quote " People aren't born good or bad. Maybe they're born with tendencies either way, but it's the way you live your life that matters." Chelsea realizes Ruby isn't as bad as she thought she was. The grandma sees everyone is lowering their weapons down. The grandma still wants to destroy the mermaids and goes after Chelsea. Ruby gets in the way and is hurt instead. Chelsea uses the trident which takes the grandma's powers and giant kraken status away so now she's a regular kraken. The grandma seeing the angry crowd fleets in fear and then gets captured by fishermen. Chelsea sees Ruby dead freaks out and then tries to use her trident to revive her. It appears to not work she starts crying but then Ruby wakes up and is fine now. Ruby and Chelsea are friends again, Ruby explains a lot to her family what happened with the help of Chelsea. Ruby's mom allows her to go with her friend group to prom. Ruby gets to dance and kiss the boy she likes. Everyone is dancing to some catchy song and then there's the end credits with some goofy pictures. At the end it shows the miserable grandma in a small aquarium fish tank without privacy being watched by a massive crowd and pictures taken. The end.
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Honestly I would have liked that plot better. Because it would have subverted expectations instead of being a simple mermaids are all bad and that’s that.
That would’ve been better honestly
This sounds better I'm still dissapointed that Ruby and Chelsea didn't become friends
Damn, I haven't even watched the movie yet and you all are making me less motivated to go watch it ;-;
As an actual professional Illustrator, I have loved my share of animated movies, but I can’t tell you the last time I saw one come to the theater that I actually wanted to go see. This is no different.
Puss in Boots! Spider-verse! Cannot recommend enough!
Seriously, the design of side characters are so horrible, they look like One Piece characters
@@jonal5126what's wrong with one piece
@@jonal5126One Piece has dope character designs
One-piece looks like shit
I’m hoping a sequel or tv series of this can happen soon, since it is so AMAZING
Sadly, it’s not doing well at the box office. Which is surprising as the last couple of Dreamworks films (Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2) were huge hits. So a sequel is pretty unlikely now.
Hell my screening only had maybe 6 other people in it.
Which I can understand as despite a few good scenes (such as the family addressing Ruby’s transformation, similar to puberty LOL) and a few other funny moments the film still felt very half baked
I actually enjoyed the movie, me and my gf were just laughing and having a good time, its a great movie, very lighthearted and would definitely watch again.
Maybe you enjoyed it because you were sharing the experience with someone you love.
(Not to sound hateful or anything lol)
@@gabrielchavez6066 I would give you a point there, if we hadn't just watched the spiderman movie which is really great, but her reaction was different she didn't get or understand a lot of things, she enjoyed ruby gillman more than spiderman, all movies don't have to be super deep and complex to be enjoyable.
Pixar: Started high, kept mostly strong for ages then absolutely tanked.
Dreamworks: literally a roller coaster of quality. Up and down over and over again.
Illumination. They made one decent movie and have been riding it’s coattails ever since.
Blue Sky: their films have always been solid, breaks my heart that Disney shut them down.
Sony Pictures Animation and Columbia Pictures: Made a Film base of a 1978 children's book Called Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
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Never expected this to be one of their best. Dreamworks never had an early-Pixar track record and it seems like Puss in Boots: The Last Wish made people forget that.
The movie just before it was The Bad Guys which I thought was pretty cute but nothing remarkable. The movie before that was The Boss Baby sequel (never watched it but well, no one was calling it incredible). Movie before that was The Croods sequel (I've heard it's okay. Maybe 6 or 7 out of 10) Trolls World Tour (again never watched.) Opinion seems to be it's about on par with the original, a little better or worse depending on who you ask. Before that Abominable (had to look that up, totally forgot this was DreamWorks) did literally anyone care about this one?? And before that HTTYD: The Hidden World. Which some love, some hate but either way it's generally considered the weakest of the trilogy.
So to summarize; I didn't expect better from DreamWorks. They have some truly fantastic movies! (Some of my absolute favorites) but they've also made a whole lot of mid-tier films.
True. Like this movie feels like it was a cartoon pilot before inexplicably turning into a movie, but I expected that, so I wasn't really disappointed.
Except that now I want that animated series.
This being one of their mid tier films
I liked abominable
@nhoj7795 Okay. I truly don't know what the general opinion of that movie is. Seems to have come and gone without leaving any kind of impression.
Out of curiosity, what would you rate it out of 10?
@@kabsageigj8941 like a 6.5/10 it wasn't great but it was nice enough to make me enjoy the movie,the visuals were beautiful and I also liked the soundtrack
Here is an alternate change that I think would have made the movie more interesting and better executed and don’t read if you haven’t watched the movie cause of spoilers
Have Chelsea and the Mermaid Queen Nerissa be separate characters and actually have them be mother and daughter
With the mother being the true antagonist who faked her death during the war planning her revenge
She pressures and manipulates Chelsea into following her orders and sees her as a tool that she would discard if she either loses her usefulness or defies her
Chelsea’s arc would have her manipulate Ruby at first by pretending to be her friend in order to get the trident only to actually like Ruby and have second thoughts about her mission and is completely guilt ridden when her mother claims the trident and reveals the truth to Ruby
Chelsea tries to explain only for Ruby to be completely consumed by anger and grief over being lied and manipulated by someone she thought was her friend and refuses to listen
Chelsea finally has enough and stands up to her mother which as you expect doesn’t work out
During the final battle Ruby and Chelsea reconcile and they stop Nerissa
Ruby’s mom and grandma can see that not all Mermaids are evil and that they can end the blood feud without wipe each other out
Chelsea becomes part of Ruby’s friend group while Ruby stays at Oceanside and Chelsea lives with Ruby’s grandma
To clarify I definitely don’t want to claim I’m better at writing than the creators and be that guy but I figured I’d share what I thought could have been better
What do you guys think?
Does my alternate idea sound ok or is it meh?
i agree with this 100% ^^ i was thinking the same thing and i think it would’ve been much better if it went this way. i wanted chelsea to be redeemed
This should have happened
This should have happened, the original was a terrible twist I’m ngl 😭
That definitely would have been 100x better than what we got. The Chelsea/Ruby friendship being strong enough to stop a war would have been a better message then “be yourself”, which we got.
I'd rather see this movie.
I knew that The Last Wish was just an exception because it's been conceptualized for a LONG time, so I didn't expect Teenage Kraken to be good anyway
It's the same kind of "It's based on my personal experiences being different" type of thing a lot of these writers do and the thing is it's not really a new thing it's the most cliche thing imaginable.
I want to say the need to be unique is new, but I went to high school in the emo era, lol. Everyone was being different in the same way. Everyone wants to be special and you’re right, the resulting story based on that feeling is generally trash.
Personally, I’m going to opposite way. Embracing a unified identity. I smoke pork while wearing my new balances. Hi tired, I’m dad.
A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.
-C. S. Lewis
I still enjoy Toy Story 1 as an adult!
I didn't even know C. S. Lewis actually said that until now.
I love Lewis’ take on people pretending adults can’t enjoy children’s stories
@@gregowen2022 glad to hear you like my comment Greg
And as Walt Disney said,
“You’re dead if you only aim at kids. Adults are kids grown up anyway”
I'm not sure why people are surprised. DreamWorks released Shrek 2 and shark tale in the same year. They will released whatever they want, regardless of if it will work.
I will admit, I was sort of hoping it would be a bit deeper than first meets the eye, but at the same time, I’m in no way depressed due to it being much more kids movie than family movie. (I still have a huge soft spot for Turbo!) I have a collection of movies that I absolutely love that aren’t really that “deep” or “thought provoking” and are intentionally aimed at kids! And honestly, I still might go watch this movie, though probably not before Spider-Verse 2 if I’m given the choice. But that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like Ruby Gillman! I may come away from the film slightly more happier than the average Joe! What I’m saying is: I’m keeping Ruby on my must-see movies list, but not quite as high as movies like Spider-Verse, Mutant Mayhem, and Five Nights at Freddy’s! (Already seen Transformers and I love it!!!)
same here! i have a real spot for turbo and i loved the movie. i am not gonna see ruby, but im still gonna look for spider-verse and five nights at freddy's!
If you seen Transformers then you have to see Ruby Gilman, I watched both and I’d say they’re equal in terms of plot and entertainment.
You can definitely find enjoyment in this one so long as you go in with the correct perspective. If you want more Puss in Boots, you’ll be let down. If you expect Trolls and Turbo, you can have fun. I hope you enjoy it!
@@gregowen2022 So where are the trolls who swore this movie was better than The Little Mermaid before either even came out? Didn't show up for their favourite movie, didn't they? At least The Little Mermaid made back its budget and then some
Update:
Watched Mutant Mayhem, I loved it to bits and am absolutely inspired by the animation style!
Also seen Asteroid City, which officially made me a Wes Anderson fan! Definitely taking notes from him and his movies!
They brought this on themselves because they pretty much released the entire movie before it even came out in theaters by posting clips
Disappointed? Yes. Surprised? No. Dreamworks (and Sony!) is possibly Western animation’s last hope for true relevancy, but the industry pushes hard for animation to just be kids’ stuff. It’s why I watch anime
With the occasional flukey exception, western animation in the 2020s feels like it's on life support and being held up nostalgia trends keeping us interested in pre-existing material from past decades.
@@JamesJimmaHardingI really loved Elemental though, it doesn’t deserve the tanking it’s getting at the box office. It was refreshing not to see a sequel or remake. Let alone an actual villain
Nimona was also great.
@@JamesJimmaHarding that’s the case for everything now
I agree western animation is in a real rut. Aside from the 3d stuff, the 2d shows are also getting more rounded and basic. They are just ugly, not to mention the simple stories. Then you flip over to anime and the art is a much higher quality and the characters are written better.
@@gregowen2022 Are you familiar with Beastars ?
It’s a legit gem and easily the best anime I’ve seen in years
The most overlooked thing that I like about DW is that they don't have a formula or a target demographic in general, like Disney with their princess movies or pixar what if X thing had feelings, dreamworks has fairytales, parodies, superheroes movies, religious movies, musical jukebox with pre-existing musics, musical jukebox with original musics, a movie about art martials, a movie about shadows and a movie about monsters fighting against aliens and the list goes on. Also, disney is trying to be "family-friendly" while DW is trying to target every demographics as possible, like they make films that appeals more to babies, kids, famlies and mature audiences and I think what that causes them to get a lot of hate, because people expect something like The prince of egypt, HTTYD2 and TLW from them and think that shouldn't devalue them for this reason.
TLW?
@@SelrisitaiPuss in boots - The last wish
My kids and I loved it for the potential. We really expected more and kept waiting for it to pick up. We couldn’t avoid but compare and see the reference’s for turning red and the little mermaid. The animation is so cute though.
One thing that I never understood is, how can the mermaid Chelsea walk on land and grow legs? It doesn’t make sense. I’ve had an idea, if I were writing the story, that Chelsea was actually half mermaid and half human. Her mother was the mermaid queen. Her father was a Human who abandoned her. That’s why she doesn’t look like the mermaids in the poster.
Thank you for the review! Wife and I just saw the commercial for this movie and were thinking about going. Dreamworks has such a solid track record between "Shrek" and "Dragons" series, we usually check them out. But after this review think we'll hold off and just wait until it's free. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for watching! Hopefully it’s more enjoyable at home when you aren’t thinking about the price of the tickets, haha
I'm sad that the trailer gave away the whole movie I think we all expected better from dreamworks
I honestly wish her Kraken form looked more like an actual Kraken than just a humanoid face on a bunch of tentacles.
It shoulda looked like the Kraken from splatoon lol
The poster for this movie gives me 2008/2009 vibes
There is nothing that bad about illumination style. BUT it feeds the stickma of animation being just for kids
Another good video. Should I be worried that I forgot this movie existed at all?
I appreciate it!
Nah, I'm not sure what happened, but it feels like even DreamWorks forgot to advertise this one, lol
They ran off a budget of 70mil. 90min movie. This movie kinda gives the impression they released it "just to see what happens" but didn't dump a lot of money on advertising just in case it didn't get any traction it wouldn't be a wild loss.
@@gregowen2022Fr like bruh they should of pushed it heavily so it could make more then blackface Ariel
when one of DreamWorks movies is bad :
DREAMWORKS SUCKS 😠
Why wasn't it called mermaid vs kraken
Let's wait for Kung Fu Panda 4
its a personal thing and im not saying the movie is horrible for this but i really didnt like the fact that Chelsea turned out to be the twist villain i would have liked it so much if she was actually ruby's friend
I think everyone was hoping for that. Subversion is cool, but especially with kid movies I think sometimes you have to give the audience what they want and I think everyone wanted to see them become real friends
Oh… I actually thought this was going to be more like Monster High or Wednesday (aka Monster High Mature). Definitely had Hotel Transylvania vibes or like the spin off where Mavis was school aged. I thought the school was for sea monsters. I didn’t realize from the trailer it’s humans because they are so gummy. Weird. Probably… a no for my family. Theater is too expensive:
Yeah, I can’t say the movie is trash, but I don’t think it justifies theater tickets. It’s a good background rental to pacify little kids
This is what happens when you treat animation like it's for kids, you waste the potential of a great movie because this movie could have been something special. Saying animation is for kids is like saying kids are stupid and I hate it, kids deserve better and so does this movie.
Agreed, it bothers me so much when people write off kids stuff like kids are idiots who will watch anything. They deserve good stories just as much as the rest of us!
Thanks for the review. Saved myself time at the theater
I mean it is the same studio behind boss baby, not everything is gonna be perfect.
Real Family flicks died in the 2010s. Finding one is like finding a needle in a haystack. For 2023 it was Mario.
Elemental was legit fantastic, same with Nimona.
Probably my two favorite animated films of the year.
Though if I had to choose I’d choose Elemental due to the slice of life and down to earth aspects in it
To think the century started out with *Batman Beyond: Return of the joker*
When you started talking about the trident. It sounded like the plot from a different movie b
I guess kids are going to love this movie alot Greg.
I liked the movie, it was sweet and interesting and fun. I wish the ending with Chelsea was better and I was there was a better “follow-up.”
dreamworks is known for inconsistent quality, so one bad or mediocre movie has never really beeen the end of the world
I thought it was going to succeed knowing how many people didn’t like the idea of a Black Ariel.
My issues:
These Krakens look like Cecaelias, apparently with laser eyes (something that is easily forgettable).
I get the idea of mermaids as villains because, sirens. But the fact they make her look exactly like classic Ariel makes me think Dreamworks thinks it is the only way for their audience to tell it is a mermaid 🙄
"We expect better from Dreamwork Animation"
Also created Shark Tale, Boss Baby, Shrek the Third, etc.
It looks pretty good, i love that the timing of the film makes it look like disneys origonal ariel quit, after being replaced with the fish-eyed mermaid, qnd turned into a villain to join dreamworks.
Also, not giving it away because it was spoiled, her FINAL FORM is what I feel like a mermaid SHOULD look like (still humanoid, but covered in fish-scales with fin attachments and fully human on land. It just makes sense to me).
@@FlyingFocsagreed.
@@dragonsman4733 always wanted to write a folktale like romance with a mermaid, and I always wondered what I could do to make it unique.
@@FlyingFocs ooo, interesting. I would advise looking at other sea creatures, such as creatures in the midnight zone, depending on the vibe you're going for. Or some types of Dolphins and sharks might also help, due to their tail fins being a bit like a mermaids.
Lmao Ruby Gilman isn't doing well at the box office, and you guys used this movie to spite the Little Mermaid remake just because of Ariel being a certain race . Ruby Gilman is one of the worst Dreamworks films in years . How sad .
I heard the animators (who formally worked for Disney) made it out of spite towards Disney for laying them off the job and for mistreatment. I still think it's the wrong reason why they should make a movie solely out of spite.. it reflects their quality. Instead of utilizing hate why not out of love and dedication.
I like that you get seperate reviews from your kids and wife! Very wholesome, lol! :) I genuinely like your reviews, Greg! Keep it up!
I really appreciate it!
One good thing about this movie, no political agenda, just girl who wants to swim, and explore the ocean, until she discovered her true origin.
I loved this movie, I think it’s a solid kids movie lol.. I agree the story telling could have been better and the mermaids side better explained.. instead of just being a power hungry bitter Narc.. but it’s 100% amazing and the animation great.. and a sweet KIDS movie about family sticking together and learning how to navigate yourself and who you are..
Yeah its a Kids Movie, but I still watched it and didnt regret watching it alone at 1045 AM on a Friday lol.
My 11 and 8 year old brothers where not fans they said you could watch the trailers, and get the whole movie
This is very good to know. Library dvd time!
I was not expecting much but the trailer gave all the movie plot .
Argh! I think everyone expected peak movie performance after the last wish, when they forget their previous films like the bad guys and boss baby and crowds are OK, but nothing that would make them stand out above classics like shrek and kung fu panda
I really really *liked* the film, but was also very frustrated by it. So much potential. I would have loved it if Chelsea was genuinely manipulating Ruby at first. Then overtime her friendship with her feels more genuine and maybe she continues to deceive, but in a more half-hearted way, with doubts, etc; keeping herself *and* the audience second guessing what she is going to do next.
That's just one idea.
I mean, even Chelsea's fake persona *had its mean/slightly aggressive moments* . Hushing people, being assertive to the point of being a bit overbearing, struggling a little with empathy for others (but not totally), etc. Ie, she's a *flawed* character, which is great! It's like her façade was more interesting than her real character and so they should have just run with that.
I completely agree. I would have also liked it if there was more lore. I’ve had this thought that Chelsea was the daughter of the mermaid queen, but was also half human and that is the reason why she can grow legs on land. I also thought maybe that her father abandoned her and that’s why she wants to destroy the town. But that would only work if I was writing the story.
The worst kind of movie sate those that COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BETTER.
@@achinthmurali5207 I know, I agree. Although I'd still rather see a movie like this one that *frustrated* me because it *could* have been better, as at least I'm still feeling *something* ; as opposed to a movie that's just blah all the way through and I completely forget about it. But I agree; it feels like they wanted to go one way with the movie and then suddenly changed their minds halfway through the film, sadly.
@@commandershepard9920i like the way you think
I feel like most children wanted to see it because they thought Chelsea was hot seriously that happened
Ruby Gillman is a good example of the "Flip the Premise" storytelling. And if you are going to ask "What's 'Flip The Premise?'" (Let's call it FTP for short), it's a writing technique where you take an existing story and flip it by making the hero into the villain and the villain into the hero. And then, you write a synopsis for your FTP story. And then, you strip your FTP story to the bare bone but keep the story's concept and make your own story out of it. FTP is what writers use when they have writer's block. It's the best technique IMO if you have writer's block.
And Ruby Gillman is an FTP story of "The Little Mermaid", obviously. Ruby is basically the good guy version of Ursula and Chelsea is the bad guy version of Arial. Other FTP stories like this includes Bright starring Will Smith, which is the FTP version of Lord of the Rings.
A pity, I really hoped it was something more... ahh well I guess there's nothing inherently bad about it, but as you said, layers would have been appreciated.
on a side note: I'm very curious about this "prom" stuff I know what it is, but as far as I know here, in Italy, it's not a thing. We don't have it, or even something similar.
It’s a big dance at the end of the school year, typically for 11th and 12th grade. It’s just my experience, but I find movies romanticize it too much. It’s a dance, you rent a tux, it’s a fun time. It’s not a life altering event, at least it wasn’t for me.
Be waiting for streaming. Honest, this movie can do a modicum of revenue because they started with one of the lowest budgets_ 70M. It looks and feels rushed up for the summer season, but other than that is a punishment for the adults accompanying the children.
1:32 lmao they have the South Park excuse.
The writer for this movie, Pam Brady, worked on South Park.
DreamWorks Animation Studios have been kinda hit or miss with their last few releases.
Um, Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2 were big hits and very good. Especially Puss in Boots 2
You have 5 kids? how old are you?
Based on his mini- man boobs, mid forties ish
A part of me feels like this movie would’ve done better with (besides the terrible marketing) 2D visuals. 2D takes less money to make than 3D so the flop wouldn’t have been that bad. And tbh the krakens look like inflatables from car dealerships lmao. I saw fan art of the krakens and they looked so much better drawn rather than rendered. It still wouldn’t have stopped the weak plot, but when the trailer released many people disliked the animation
Edit: I forgot if it was in 2D it would’ve gotten more praise from animation fans (especially the anti Disney ones that thought it would beat TLM) so more word of mouth would happen as it would’ve been the first major 2D animated movie in years
What happened to Chelsea
She gets captured by the fisherman and locked in a cage.
I thought the writing was absolutely atrocious.
Rather than reveal that Ruby likes math through the various situations which would have required better writers....instead let's do a big exposition dump at the very beginning with Ruby saying, "I like math." Oh surprise, exposition dump was actually a video that Ruby made to convince her folks to go to prom....except this video-making skill never comes again in the entire movie. Just a contrived exposition dump.
The plot was all over place. 1) she is kraken trying to hide among humans; 2) surprise! she's grows big in the water 3) she's royalty; 4) her mom lied to her; 5) she got super powers; 6) apparently, kraken's and mermaids don't like each other; 7) she makes friends with the new 'it' girl; 8) 'it' girl is a mermaid; 9) it girl is the daughter of the evil head mermaid; 10) no wait, she's actually the evil head mermaid (why was this needed?); 11) evil mermaid want a special trident that actually doesn't seem to be that special and tricks Ruby into getting it for her; 12) old guy is trying to show the world krakens are real on youtube/tiktoc but the plot needs the men in the family to thwart him just to give something do (they should have pulled a disney and killed one of the parents before the movie started).
Removing ANY of these plot points results in a more tightly focused movie.
On a side note, if you going to give the main character a gay best friend, why must they be turned up to 11 all the time?
I'm not sure that we half to say we need to have a bit of lower standards for this simply because it's more kid-oriented than family-oriented 🤔. Even if something is more younger-skewing it can still be of good quality.
Dreamworks films have always ranged from being for kids or for families, and I personally find in funny how at one point the internet would make fun of dreamworks films and some of their tropes for being lesser compared to pixar or disney. Now the tables have kind of turned either because people feel that pixar and disney have dipped in quality, or illumination has taken it's place lol.
Nevertheless, This film does look cute but not worthy of being seen on the big screen. The comparaisons to Luca are fitting as Dreamworks conviently still makes films that look a little similar to pixar or disney, and I agree that if everyone in the film has these spinless long-fingered designs than that doesn't help our main monster character stand-out as much 🤨.
Lastly, I wonder if the gay character you mentioned happens to be the black or colored chick as we apparently are still doing that trope of having a black or colored chick be the token lesbian. Although, I'll give credit that having a black or colored male be the handsom heartthrobe is a little rare in these kind of films. So there's that, although I wonder if him having dreads is suppose to make him resemble the Kraken females tenticles, idk 🤔.
I think this movie made a great job at the main character´s development but not so much with world-building, it´s very one-sided because it´s only told by Ruby`s grandma and she really doesn´t seem to be the most open-minded kraken in the Ocean there are even moments when she sounded kinda racist, I think DreamWorks was so focused on making fun of Disney´s Little Mermaid that they didn´t realize it was over the top and backfired because we only get to see one mermaid and they want us to believe just because "Chelsea" is evil then all mermaids are as well but in the end I kinda got the idea that in the bigger picture the mermaids are the actual victims of this situation because Ruby´s family can turn into giant and powerful krakens as they please but the mermaids needed that trident to transform into giant creatures as well to fight toe-to-toe (or fin-to-fin) with them but that trident was taken away and hidden from them for years so they were in a very vulnerable state and forced to hide all this time from the krakens, how would one little mermaids or even ten of them be any threat against a giant and powerful kraken like Ruby and her family? I was hoping for some twist like they would reveal that the reason Ruby´s mother Agatha chose to leave the Ocean and not be a warrior anymore was because she attacked innocent creatures because her mother told her too by saying they were "evil" and when she realized what she was doing she regret it deeply, but as you said it´s never really established why her mother and grandmother don´t get along it´s said that it was because her grandmother "kept controlling her life" but we never got to see what she made her do that she didn´t like
Yeah it’s funny that they didn’t think the message through. Ruby’s grandma is the ruler of the ocean and anyone who talks back is inferior and evil and instead of showing us that black pe- sorry, mermaids are also people, they justify her racism. Haha.
@@gregowen2022black what?
@@gregowen2022 don't forget Grandma wanting to genocide mermaids being treated as a good thing, and Agatha's refusal to answer the call to slaughter them all being seen as a bad thing. Also since mermaid don't age that means they're all teengers. yay for high school popular girl mass slaughter? a questionable message to show genocide as good to say the least
This just returns DreamWorks to the Status Quo with another movie like Trolls, Boss Baby, etc. I really miss the old DreamWorks where even if there wasn't a deep message or characters, there were at least clever and absurdist Jokes (Bee Movie) I would say Monsters vs Aliens but that one actually has a deeper in the background subject about Susan's Toxic relationship with Derek.
Not the first time someone named Derek was a POS
@@George_Fl0yd oh Hey George! Nice to see you've been sober for 3 years!
@@juandiegotorres9632 Wsg Juan! Thank you I’m thankful Af that I haven’t once thought about touching that stuff.
when one of DreamWorks movies is bad :
DREAMWORKS SUCKS 😠
@@user-yw8ys4kq5x no actually DreamWorks is good it's current era is generally pretty lackluster and Puss in Boots 2 appears to have been an exception. But I imagine you're a bot cause I've seen you spam the same comments over and I've seen your "name" before.
Dreamworks will never make more than one good movie in a row lol.
I was truly looking forward to watch this movie. Like you said, it's DREAMWORKS for crying out loud. Now I'm not sure. Thanks for the heads up.
Sorry to bring the bad news, but it’s a rental at best
@@gregowen2022 On the contrary, much appreciated. And keep those good videos coming.
I wish this movie did more with it plot and characters because i see the potential if it had a sequel. Sadly, it might end up being Dreamwork forgettable films.
Compared to their last two hits from last year (Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2) it easily is the weakest amongst them.
But hey, you can’t expect everyone to be a hit
I thought that was a disney project😂😂
The movie feels like when people mix mnms and skittles together in one bowl.
the pacing was terrible,
the songs were okay.
The characters feel so one dimensional, its like they just created the characters, gave them a few things to make them different, and called it a day.
These characters have 1 personality trait.
I want to root for a character or absolutely adore one of them, i want to get to know more of their motivations
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It's a pretty okay movie, but i can enjoy it when i turn my brain off.
Haven’t even seen many reviews on this movie
I watched It Yesterday, personally the film was "meh..." There were few interesting characters, even ruby's friends felt boring, Instead i watched turning red and i find It entertaining, not the Best of Pixar, but certainly far from boring, and mei mei's friends were ways More charismatic...
Does it take place in Seattle?
I understood that reference
Apparently, I saw something saying it took place in Florida.
Having seen it, nothing indicates Florida to me. I was thinking Pacific Northwest somehow.
Jane Fonda appears so anything’s possible
Everyone just rolls with the blue family and everyone else is weird. If it were bordering an ocean, I’d say it was Portland, lol
How many kids do you have???
There was 1 deep message i would say which was never put too much trust on someone you barely know. Least they never explained it unlike Raya smhhh. As for my opinion on the film, It had flaws but it was fun and cute. Much better than Turning Red tho. Would give it a 7/10
They could have explained the message in a better way.
I'm glad we got this and Elemental. I just had issues with the leads voice in Elemental.
I liked Chelsea I wish she got redeemed
Nah, having a misunderstood and eventful redeemed villain I feel is becoming a bit overdone.
But Chelsea was still a fun character though maybe because I always loved redheads LOL
Just for the layers shrek reference you get my sub
DEFINITELY a rent it
I was barely able to get tickets for this, local theater was nearly full. I want this movie to sell really well as bitchslap to Disney but doesn’t look like it will have great sales.
Your theater was full for this one? LOL
My auditorium had maybe six people in it, with a couple of kids.
Unlike both times I saw Elemental (which blows this one out of the water) which had over 20 people in it.
It’s always interesting to hear about these disparities in theaters. I went Thursday at 430 and other than my 8 people, there was a family of 4. That was it. Fortunately DreamWorks knows how to keep a budget low, I think it’s $70M for this one, so it might eke out a break even
That is the problem you guys used this movie just to hate on Disney well karma for you guys you Only wanted to hate on Disney instead watching the movie because you guys actually wanted to
The racist grandma was right…
That’s what I was saying.
Haha, that’s the second animated movie this month that basically said “people really are different and the racists were right”
I feel sad the movie looks original but its just not interesting for me
Im 13 and i would give 10/10 i like it so much❤
DreamWorks hasn't always had "higher standards".....
Antz
Shark Tale
Madagascar
Bee Movie
Shrek the Third...
Just saying....
4/10. Even as a kid I think that the movie was kind of disappointing and I had expected more. The movie was really predictable and pretty much everything was spoiled in the trailer. I thought she knew she was a kraken but I guess not? The movie felt a bit bland and like it was make to tick off boxes on a checklist.
If the 3 y/o didn't like it, did DreamWorks really make a good movie for kids? I know a couple 3 y/o that binge watch Frozen 2. That movie is near unwatchable.
It's a disaster and SO MANY PPL LIVE IT! Yikes.
I respect your opinion on this movie
This movie is essentially “your racist grandma was right all along”
Hahaha, big oops for DreamWorks sending the wrong message
@@gregowen2022 exactly LOL
I actually dont mind that DreamWorks is still making kiddie movies. Simce its an animated movie companies should still keep their younger audience in mind every once in awhile but i have liked the more recent mature movies like puss in boots. As lond as thet have a good balance of both then ill keep rooting for DreamWorks as long as they dont cabe into the ESG trap like Disney clearly has
Nothing wrong with kiddie movies at all, I just think it’s important to know what you’re getting into. This one has a narrower target audience than other movies
Ruby, Mario, Spiderverse2, Nimona on Netflix, Paramounts Transformers' cartoons; all are more ESG than anything Disney has nowadays. Ruby's gay high school couple wit rainbow ties? Sony's Spiderverse's trans flags all around and jst in case you didn't get it they spell out "protect trans kids" in big black letters. Mario's ball-busting Princess Peach that tells you in interviews she didn't accept the role until she made sure she is a "feminist boss". Paramount's transformers cartoons and gendered robots. Netflix's Nimona just released to praise by critics and audiences; a film which Disney dropped cause they thought it was too explicitly gay.
No matter what, ur giving ur money to the same people; more often than not even more woke people.. it's the entire industry.
Your 3 year old is hilarious. 😂
She most certainly is. “A handful” is the polite parental way to put it.