Cryaotic: A Failure's Descent Into Madness
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- Cryaotic was once put alongside creators such as PewDiePie, this video demonstrate why that is no longer the case.
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00:00 Intro
1:21 Early Cryaotic
3:53 Grows alongside PewDiePie
6:00 Origin of Late Night with Cry and Russ
11:00 No boundaries with fans/Cracks start to show
20:10 How bad it truly was
27:36 A failure's failing channel and life
35:09 Cryaotic's last livestream/A descent into madness
41:15 Cryaotic's secrets are revealed and he vanishes
54:48 Conclusion
Anytime I find myself asking "Whatever happened to that UA-camr?" I swear there's like a fifty percent chance the answer is they turned out to either be a criminal or a reprehensible person and then ghosted.
Usually a fun little mixture of both!
Bro, ive been since the early day's of UA-cam and its insane how most turned out, in a positive and negative way...
It's so shitty. A few months ago, I remembered Cry from when I watched him as a kid, and was like, "wonder what he's been up to!" Only for every top video to be about this kind of thing. Really sucks that so many of the old school peeps ended up being awful.
and 90% of the time it's grooming kids, looking at cheese pizza or some other form of pedophile degeneracy.
Like, booooooring! Why can't we have something fun, like Vinny and Joel robbing a bank or Jacksepticeye's connections to the Irish Mafia?
And it's a 95% chance that they touched minors.
Imagine the utter confusion I had when Dream SMP rose in popularity. I had whiplash seeing how strikingly similar Dream's mask looked to Cry's avatar.
Dream's basically a both better and shittier version of Cry.
Just unlike Cry, there's a lot of people who did this song and dance before, and can tell Dream is obviously a shithead in disguise. He's worse at hiding it but better at capitalizing on his fame and compounding it.
Sadly he got an obsessive fanbase of children all the same.
Won't be surprised whenever (who knows how long) in the future a video like this is made of Dream.
I was very confused att. It took a while for me to understand those are two different people. Yet even with Dream's controversies I doubt they be **that** different. Dream sure as hell is shady to me.
@@darcyjoshua7201 whats up with Dream now?
like 90% of dream's controversies are just him doing dumb stuff, apologizing and learning from that to not repeat the nonsense, or just straight up lies (except internet likes to hate him and straight up forgets about his steps to fix things up or says "PeoPLe Don'T ChaNgE!!1"). not talking about cheating stuff, that was bad fr, but he quit speedrunning because of that so ig it's fair
@@wildmaknae_ It's moreso the character of his person.
If you look at all the "dumb stuff he did" and gave halfassed apologies for, it paints a picture of the kind of person he is.
He never even truly acknowledged the cheating until it long passed, I guarantee he woulda kept speedrunning if he didn't get caught so badly.
Why is it seemingly so fucking hard for so many youtubers to not cheat on your partner or get sexually involved with minors? Holy fuck the fact that it actually happens so often is seriously concerning.
I think it's something to do with power and fame, but on a smaller level
We've heard stories where stardom and renown can corrupt people, but sometimes I think that applies to UA-cam stuff too. You get these lonely nerds and weirdoes--or at best ordinary people--who are ill equipped with handling the sudden fame and attention from hundreds of people in their audience, suddenly getting handed this much power
You either learn to handle it responsibly, or you abuse it and fuck up. We've had decent big UA-camrs who dont have controversies at all, because they managed that fame well. But we've also had so much shit like this where Youtubing brings out their ugly side.
The bar is so low, meanwhile motherfuckers out here playing the most intense limbo to duck below it.
@@utaatu4576I think it's time we be honest and really realize how many people out there would really fuck a minor if they could get away with it. Literally every single one that we catch thinks are going to get away with it and a large portion of them get away with it.
I know, right? It’s so goddamn easy not to be a pedophile. And to just break up with someone instead of cheating, but the former is a lot worse.
@@sailormoonfan224 Are you sure you're using "latter" correctly there?
God the culture of UA-cam was just so different back then. Now being older, the way Cry talks about himself has the same energy as my emotionally manipulative ex.
I never watched this guy but it's unbearable to even listen to. Endless whining and self pity. I am guessing these weren't one after the other like in the video, but listening to it in this video is physically painful.
its crazy the stuff I was subjected to on this website when I was 14 years old
"You're gonna get tired of me eventually..." made me cringe out of my skin
Is like suddenly bursting out "I'm just a piece of trash" or "all my exes left because they're were all bitches" in the scale of "I like to make other people responsible of regulating my own emotions"
making this about you. yikes
@@jackcutter2 at least they got an ex to compare him to......
You know it's a youtuber documentary when it only takes about 8-10 minutes into the story for grooming to take place.
I dunno, I was starting to wonder since it was taking so long.
I counted 8 seconds.. lol
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChineseyeah he talked about the grooming in the intro
Fr fr
36 minutes in and still no mention of grooming other than in the intro
Editstarts at 41"
Hearing Cry’s voice again after all this time is WILD. It’s like seeing a mug shot of someone covered in tats and piercings, then realizing it’s old friend from high school who used to dress conservatively. Just… surreal. I don’t think I’ve seen one clip with him in it since it all went down.
I used to think his voice was so "sexy" but listening to it now it sounds so forced and creepy 😭🤢
@@itsgrace717he relied on his voice so fucking much to gain women followers too. There was only one cryreads that I liked and now that I think of it, it’s actually legit scary because the story was about a man who unalived his younger sibling(could be just a kid) and was recalling it due to having a ptsd episode. I think the name of it was “Mason”.
@@Krazycougar22Nah, Mason was a story about two little cancer patients who fell in love.
I've seen all the cry reads. This news hit me hard when it first came out
@@itsgrace717and passed the bar of weird Batman voice attempt #40
lol tf you guys srsly diddnt get pedo vibes out of that voice back then?
Cry isn’t pathetic because he was mentally unwell. Almost everyone is in some way. He’s pathetic because he took his pain and unleashed it on absolutely everyone around him, with no thought to the consequences. I’m not gonna lie, his struggles with motivation and depression and loneliness are really relatable to me but he took it so far without any care about anyone else. The whole situation is absolutely crushing. It hurts so much to know that if cry never existed a lot of people would be a lot better off.
Eh, i wouldn't be so sure about that last statement. He is a bad person and all his fans agree. But as despicable as he is, it seems a lot of people were grealty helped by his presence during the earliest era of youtube
@@judesliggoo maybe you’re right
I think it’s a double edged sword perhaps his content helped a lot of people get through the day ik for me Adam Kovic and the gang from Funhaus got me through a lot of rough times in highschool despite Adam being a cheating, creepy and disgusting person the content they made and some of his jokes helped me but it was the people he interacted with on a day to day basis in person and online that got burned the same can be said for Cry i think
I don't approve of the cheating but I am in a similar situation as cry was and I am. A person that believes and follows absolute honest so the pple around u can actually help. Because not knowing the full details. Helps no one. And loneliness depression and self hate plus any level of drama wreckless havoc on ur brain and is that a problem. To want. Help to a fundamental level.
Beautfully said.
During the "Cryaotic's last livestream/A descent into madness" section, I actually felt really bad for him. It just sounded like someone who had to grow up too early, then found success and a bit of happiness from it, then had everything crumble in his head. I get the feeling of realizing that "success" doesn't heal everything wrong with your mind and how that wrecks you.
And then we got to the messaging-kids part and all of that went out the damn window.
same
tbf he been dating a 16 y/o at 20
He did really good at emotionally manipulating the story, the spin was 'I made mistakes' and the mistake was being a pedophile. Like. Fuck, man.
You really think people would be there for you if you broke down now huh?
@@dr.redwood5479While I wouldn't consider it to be that big of a deal on its own, that man clearly has a pattern of messaging people who are underage. That's an abuse of power that to me makes him irredeemable. It's similar to the CMC situation in a way
I genuinely think Cry was a perfect example of unchecked mental illness and ego. He struggled to accept the way the internet was changing around him, constantly shifting between wanting to embrace or hide his own fame. He is an egomaniac with no confidence, which in itself is an incredibly self-destructive cycle. While it does not excuse his actions in any way, I believe Cry to be an incredibly mentally unsound man. The pride has no ego, the ego has no pride. Wherever he is, I hope he gets his shit together.
Yeah it sucks because i truly believe cry could have gone down a different path and was not a "geniunely evil person". What he did is unforgivable but i dont think he was "Evil" in the sense that he was destined to be that way.
He just had deeply rooted issues that put him into self destructive cycles and made him deeply desperate for validation, love and attention.
If he had gotten it under control i think he would never have done what he did.
Sadly he ultimately made his choices and i wish all who suffered due to what he did have recoverd.
@Destroyer120296 Yeah, he's still human and it's a harrowing thing to realize that with enough abuse and neglect any of us could've potentially gone down a similar path. Being a good parent to your child is the most important thing you could do for their future, because if you fail, it shapes and molds not only their conscious mind and personality, but also their entire subconscious mind (and by extension, their associations, emotional reactions, behaviors, and habits) for the worse and, in a nutshell, that's how you end up with hurt people hurting other people. It's a cycle and you have the burden of responsibility to find it in yourself to break it if you find yourself there, both for your sake and those who cross your path - especially those who stick around. That's just life, we all have this responsibility, and it's tragic (in many ways) that Cry wasn't equipped to face that fully, and instead did what he felt he had to in order to escape from his shadow for another day. I hope this whole ordeal has shaken him awake to this reality at the very least. People can change and I hope he manages to find a path to actually be a better person, and face whatever demons lead him to this point. Fuck, this stuff is heavy.
I hope he's in jail, he can still get therapy there too
"Wherever he is, I hope he gets his shit together."
@@sokumotanaka9271 You clearly know nothing about the penal system in North America if you think that helps anyone lmao
The fact that Russ felt compelled to stick around with what was essentially his abuser just for financial security is truly heartbreaking.
Edit: Since people keep bringing up the situation with Russ' parents, I want to make it clear that my comment wasn't in ignorance of that fact. For me, the tragic part was that he felt compelled to stay with Cry AFTER he was able to get away from his shitty parents.
Yeah but at least that nightmare is over with and Russ finally found his happiness in life.
Yeah, some people are just desperate. For whatever reason.
Yeah, but it helped him escape a worse faith if his parents were really on drugs and abusive That's not the funniest hell hole to be in.
Although your "s/o" flirting with you're "best friend" is the worst kind of betrayal.
I remember when Angel (I think that's their name?) Started hanging out with cry more and I was genuinely confused. Also hated the fact that russ had to stick around for financial reasons
@@jesustyronechrist2330 "for whatever reason" 💀
As a 22 year old now I can't even understand why someone my age would be dating a 16 year old. It's disgusting.
Edit: The amount of you who are excusing his actions and talking about age of consent is gross.
Sounds like something a pedo would say
@@marceelino Here in the US, 16 is the legal age of consent, so it isn't "horrible" in law terms, but it's still pretty looked down upon by most people for an adult and a minor to be in a relationship. Whether it fits within the law or not
@@marceelinofreak behavior
As a 19 year old I cant imagine dating a 17 year old those people are such creeps
It's even more creepy that 16yo old in US looks older than in EU.@@marceelino
Just letting anyone that's looking into this know that Russ is rehosting Late Night Crew again with the other two. He did one stream for halloween and there's plans to do one more for new years. While Cryaotic caused insane amounts of damage, there are still those that rebuilt themselves. Support Russ, Scott, and Snake.
Do you have the link or name?
Imma cuck him. Gotta be easy if Cry pulled his women.
@@corpsebrideishua-cam.com/video/BVNNvkaX9m0/v-deo.htmlsi=OV6SSKBPOkj76LrZ
What are the channel names?
Supporting the worst DBD UA-camr ever 💅
You know that the internet is a vile place when you learn that a youtuber groomed fourteen fans and you think "I've heard worse."
It's also a truly amazing and astonishing place
You seen that kitten that dunked itself in its milk?
Pure gold, oh and all the money raised for kids and stuff
And you know that the internet has scoured your soul when that information barely elicits a response beyond "oh, another one."
The internet is a vile place? My guy the internet is just a collection of things from the world outside of it. This is a dumbed down version of some of the stuff you could see just by going outside.
The world is a vile place, the internet just makes it a lot more transparent. What trips me out as a 24 year old who has never watched cry, he honestly had a pretty good life compared to what I've been through and to find out the man was a 31 YEAR OLD talking to underage people this way and preying on their insecurities and the fact that they can relate to him instead of doing what he could to give them guidance and a positive role model disgusts me. I can't believe someone THAT OLD would be crying on livestream to literal preteens. Some people man, I hope all the people who's lives he messed up are doing alright now and I hope all the young teens out there take him as an example to deal with their emotional issues and to take responsibility. Letting your issues out on others, especially young people, does nothing but perpetuate these cycles. It's up to us to breake the habits our parents and role models left us with.
*vile world
The world is the vile place, the internet just helps expose these people more then what real life would do, yes the internet does also help these groomers get to children easier, but still the world itself still made these terrible people. But sometimes the internet itself is the sole reason why a lot people become like this so your not entirely wrong.
Hearing Cry having a mental breakdown like that is some of the most disturbing things I’ve heard from him.
Hearing any creator having a mental breakdown is disturbing in general
@@scarfhay5541 true but hearing it from Cry, who the majority of the time on the internet was quiet and chill go on this unstable rant like in that video
@@scarfhay5541 Hearing anybody have a mental breakdown is pretty disturbing
Right? It gave me a damn jumpscare, it's in complete constrast with how he usually spoke.
What an absolute sh*tshow...
At least he admitted it
Holy shit... Russman's cackle at 53:00 is so bone-chilling. You can *hear* how both relationships Cry took from him absolutely broke him. I hope he, along with all the other victims Cry was communicating with, are doing better now. They didn't deserve any of this.
Imagine having 2 girlfriends that essentially openly cheated on you
Holy fuck dude... it gave me chills...
Man deserved better from his partners and his so called best friend. Russ and everyone else that was a victim of Cry didn't deserve anything that he subjected them to.
100%. I thought the same thing. Hope Russ is doing much better
I thought it was crying at first, really harrowing
Cry used to be my favorite UA-camr when I was 13-17 ish. I was young, lonely, and honestly back then Cry felt like my only friend at times. I had a schoolgirl crush on him. I'm glad nothing like this ever happened to me. I had so many good memories of watching his videos, bought games because of him... When I found out what happened because I watched his last video I was so upset and hurt that I cried. As a 20 something year old 😂 because it felt like finding something horrible out about an old friend. Really damages a persons trust in their favorite UA-camrs...
You were a fan of him? Lol! That’s embarrassing.😂
I cried too, don't worry
literally i'm in the exact same boat. i never had anyone detail what exactly happened since i was just a dumb kid with a stupid crush on a faceless youtuber, but now that i'm an adult, i'm mortified. like cognitive dissonance is kicking my ass, but i'm so happy to know the truth.
Parasociallllll
Lesson, don’t put trust in people you’ve never met and probably also decrease your expectations even for people you know intimately
It made me so disappointed when I discovered who he really was. He wasn't hiding his face, he was hiding his true identity.
He was hiding his face
Bro being fake deep 💀
Damn that's so deep. I'm 13 btw and I like real music, like rock. I wish they still make good music because I was born in the wrong generation. This is deep BTW.
He has some great creepy pasta reads too. Pretty sad.
@@rebralhunter6069have you found out about REAL music like video game osts and anime openings
Imagine how different things would have been if Russ had given that Amnesia custom story early access to PewDiePie instead of Cry
Dude may have built a life for himself if he never had that massive influx of social capital. Maybe… it’s just as likely that he would have still been a faux-deep, terminally online loser, lusting after kids.
lol
Pewdipie had a good family and was more mentally stable so nothing would change
@@NotVeryStrange nah a lot of things would probably change like never being friend with cryotic
@@keycrafter7471 not being friends with cryaotic wouldn't change a thing , it's not like cryaotic would have boosted him in subscribers cuz pewdipie was pretty big and most of cryaotic fans probably knew pewdipie due to their content similarity
Man I remember finding out about this. “Man I miss cryaotic” “oh dont, he’s a groomer” “WHAT”
Super upsetting to see someone I looked to when I was in a shit mindset turning out to be a PoS. That shit was rough.
Fair.
Also lol, the amount of times you said shit
I found out about this a couple months after it happened. I wasn't an avid watcher of him, but I enjoyed his content enough to have an alarm for his streams even if I didn't always watch. I was making an offhand comment about cry reads and none of my friends ever understood. My bf did tho and we were talking about cry and we decided to look him up to see how he was doing. Lo and behold I see all these groomer stuff and drama happening. Really depressing considering I actually really liked some of his content and his collabs with pewds. I stayed up watching their collabs, stifling my laughter so I didn't get in trouble.....
@@infinitymocha I saw a video where someone asked Felix why he didn’t do things with Cry anymore and his reaction was so heartbreaking 😭 I can’t imagine finding out your friend is Like That
@@shadowsoul720 Twice?
I remember I was horrified when I found out, I didn't watch him a lot but I loved the old video where he played prop hunt or something.
If anyone else wants to scratch the itch Cry did in terms of LPs, ManlyBadassHero is an amazing UA-camr. Respectful of the games, has fun, pokes fun, etc.
Manly is those kinda lper that you can almost guarantee won't have a drama due to how non-personal he is. Also specializing on random indie horror games, it's inherently not geared to children
BIG agree, MBH is a legend.
NakaTeleeli is another good choice. His playthrough of Quake with his friend ElementalOgre is great.
Exactly
YES! he’s the first youtuber who gave me such a similar LP vibe
it's wild hearing his voice again after so many years and realising how...unwell he had been all this time like I honestly do not know how I've missed it but it's so obvious now
I feel we’ve grown since the late 2000’s when it comes to mental health - recognizing it, openly discussing it, and promoting treatment. I also think about how I was a young girl when I watched Cry… I had no life experience to know that the angst in his videos was a bad sign, and not just the similar to my teenage angst. I feel so bad for the people who were harmed by him before they could grow out of his content like I did (before everything came to light).
Hindsight bias
No, that isn’t what hindsight bias is. We both said we never realized it at the time, but looking back can see the signs. Hindsight bias is saying you predicted it before it happened… but we didn’t, we only see the signs now since we’re adults and not preteens. Cry was evidently unwell - but the pedophilia was definitely a shock to me. No bias there.
We were kids
I mean, a lot of us were kids and teenagers. I don't know how any of us would've caught on to that.
Besides the victims, Russ’ side of things hit the hardest. He was trapped with this vermin of a human being for so long
and it all started just because Russ wanted Cry to check out his Amnesia modded level...
Yeah, and we were all unaware...
It sucks when I tried to rewatch clips for old times sake, thinking I could just tune out Cry but knowing now how the rest of the crew felt, it really is just tainted.
Russ has such cozy, fun streams now. Same with Snake. They are doing better
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
I used to be in the Steam Group and I used to watch tons of his videos on UA-cam.
But I'll never forget the stream where everyone was talking shit back and forth while Cry was playing some weird eastern inspired war-boardgame and it was so fucking boring, he didn't talk and the others were basically just carrying the stream while Cry was sitting quiet.
Then Russ said: "Yo Cry, chat wonders why you're being so quiet."
And he just fucking launched into a rant about how he wasn't a puppet dancing for an audience, he was going to play videogames and "have a good time" and that "he was tired of everything."
I don't know how, but my brain just went: "This guy doesn't seem like he appears on his let's plays" and then I just never watched him again; it's like I snapped out of a dream or something and realized that he was kind of a fucking asshole towards everyone and it just didn't vibe with me.
Kinda similar but different for me, I loved his letsplays but just couldn't get into the streams...I think by the time I discovered their streams there must have been some underlying stuff I was subconsciously picking up on, cause they just...felt like they didn't like each other? But they were pretending not to? Snake was the one who I noticed first then a few of the others. I stopped watching after a few cause I just couldn't shake that feeling. I thought it was me and maybe I just didn't understand their vibe...and then that day with the final video happened. Sucks man
@@ginnys.matthias1818 I had the same experience. Used to love watching his lets plays as a teen, then didn't like him on stream and preferred his friends. I just got "he's not the kind of guy I would want to hang out with" and stopped watching. Turned out a lot of us subconsciously noticed things being off with him.
"Im not a dancing puppet"... That sounds like some fake deep shit. Sorry Cry but a stream is a performance at the end of the day.. anyone streaming is effectively a dancing puppet. You dance/entertain then you get a bag 💰. it's simple.
what's with him trying to have a shadow the hedgehog voice 💀
Fr how to people find it hot 💀💀💀 it sound so cringe and forced
Bro reached Mamamax levels of cringe ☠️☠️
@@paisflo7624lol its very max coded
@@None-vg1qw I wanna say it was a 2011 thing but it’s the same thing with CorpseHusband lol
he's literally Haze from Anonymous Agony
In hindsight, the Catherine bit is epic dark comedy. Because in the results, people lean towards physical cheating to be worse. While cry thinks emotional cheating is worse.
Cry then challenges this notion by making emotional cheating look WAY WORSE.
It’s like he took this as a challenge to prove how emotional cheating can be just as bad as physical.
Most probably he was taking into account all the shit he's done and thought "Well, that's way more fucked up than the other option"
@@xbyte00he was that’s how some psych games work, make you think about yaself
I think most people wouldn't actually understand emotional cheating. I don't think I do either. Like if everyone's being honest, chances are we're not in a relationship with someone who is our idea of peak physical attractiveness, so the urge to do physical cheating is easy to understand. Falling in love with someone else, being honest enough with yourself to realise that but not honest enough to tell your current partner "I don't love you anymore"? That's hard to picture for yourself.
@@calamitysangfroid2407The problem is that many people emotionally cheating still love their partner. They want to have both people in their life and they're too selfish to let go of either, even if what they're doing is showing the exact opposite of love.
It's good you don't understand emotional cheating, you shouldn't ever have to.
Cryotic was probably the only UA-camr that actually disappointed me. I felt betrayed and almost in denial in a way, and spent the next two days digging for info on the situation, since I somewhat grew up watching him due to his collaborations with PewDiePie.
It's a shame he's not facing any repercussions, but hopefully he's getting the help he needs, because he clearly needed it.
It's so weird. I started a let's play YT channel in high school because of him and Pewdiepie, and sort of copied Cry's style of talking and doing playthroughs, as teens often do in those specific situations I guess. I'm glad I had something good come into my life from watching his stuff (that, getting better at video editing, getting into Roll20 briefly, and a few other things), but I can't even put into words what I felt watching through this doc.
It’s a different thing when it’s someone you used to watch. So many of the ones who were exposed before were people I had no connection to. I’d stumbled across a video of theirs on occasion, but not people I watched actively. Cry was the first one that I had watched actively, only to be exposed as a problem - a groomer, an abuser, an aggressor. And that made it hurt, because his emotional “openness” in the past had inspired me, as someone with unchecked depression and struggles against a chaotic home life. Felt less alone, felt entertained by his friendship with PewDiePis, felt comfortable. Then when it comes out what he’s done, suddenly you feel alone again, even years after moving onward. Everything falls away, all that good feeling and appreciation, and you just stand there, watching someone you admired fall before your eyes.
He was someone I watched for comfort when I was a young teenager, that’s what really makes me so mad about it all.
@@ghoultoothyou hit the nail better than i could, not just with Cry, but SkyDmc, all those rainy summer days binging their playlists of various games.
He absolutely is facing repressions, he’s blacklisted from any online position where people would recognize him, which was clearly he passion
Having been a mod for his streams circa 2013 and 2014 (from ages 15 to 16) as Red brought me on to mod the offline hours, watching back stuff and going "I was there for some of this" is always surreal.
Y'know, there's something else I noticed. I share my experience with the deep sense of betrayal and disappointment and all. But as an impressionable preteen, coming from a chaotic and LOUD house, hearing his low voice and general calm demeanor and vibe gave me a real false illusion. Because even when he clearly showed bursts of anger or mental instability, hearing all that in a relative calm tone gave me a false sense of "not seriousness", as in, "if he's saying stuff calm like that, he MUST have a grasp on his internal conflicts, emotions and, most of all, mentality and ideals. Wow, so mature". Because of that I often didn't question anything that came from him and had him in this pedestal of wisdom. If the same things were said and done by a more loud person (as I was used) perhaps I wouldn't have laid so much trust in him
I dont think Cryotic, at least back then, did those things as an intentional manipulation tactic...
But you are of course correct that it was very effective later when he had to hide and manipulate the minefield that he built himself in.
Which made him very dangerous.
@@ethribin4188 oh, yes I agree. Absolutely, I don't think that he did that intentionally for a moment, however it did serve in his favor and that is something that influenced me, is all I'm saying
Agreed. Interesting!
Remember guys: AS SOMEONE WHO IS TRAUMATIZED, trauma is not an excuse to be a piece of shit 💙
Edit: the fact that you guys think "don't be an asshole" is a hot take is beyond me. Touch grass
Same goes for other things like mental health issues or periods, the sooner people learn that you're still a POS if you abuse someone no matter your current situation, the sooner people will learn to not put up with abuse.
Can confirm. Specailly in relationships (I come from one and iy was horrendous)
Guys. Never, ever try and play psychology with someone just because you have a crush on them. That "I can fix them" is not going to get you nowhere. Don't go down that path. Absolutely not worth it. Stay safe.
While you are right, trauma sometimes is a or the reason why some people are straight up disturbing or even horrifying
But sometimes it always is ^-^
@@podled942your still a piece of shit if you enact on these feelings from trauma.
hearing about him is always so depressing. his videos were formative for me as a kid. it's like looking back at something that led you to such positive places and seeing it was actually just a steaming pile of shit. just genuinely makes me so sad.
completely same - he was a HUGE comfort youtuber for me. i'd watch or rewatch series to get through breakups or other life shit. and out of ALL of the content creators that i enjoyed, i'd always go on about i was so glad that my favorite content creator stayed out of drama and was incredibly wholesome. i don't think i've let myself enjoy content like that since this stuff. 😵💫
@@oatmealguysame this one hurt a lot and changed my view on UA-camrs. Not to be dramatic lol just that you realise you can't always clock this shit
@@od3910 yeah, now i keep everything at arms length lmfao. everyone's gotta have their one mildly parasocial view on a content creator that ruins it all
I survived middle and high school because of Cry. I couldn't hurt myself, I had to get to Saturday so I could watch the Late Night Crew. The summer after I graduated is when all this shit came out... it still really hurts. Hearing Cry's voice is so bittersweet. I've had a few dreams about the LNC as a whole since then. I loved his playthrough of The Cat Lady so, so much, and I can never watch it again without feeling sick. I was groomed as a teenager, too. Cry was a safespace for me, and so many other people, and I hate that he's a piece of shit who hurt other people in the same ways I was hurt.
You're not alone there. For me, he was one of the OG let'splayers. I was in high school around 2009 when I first started watching and had always been hooked to his humor and voice. It was good times.
I haven't touched or rewatched a single one of his videos again, not since the big bust. In fact, looking at Dream SMP's avatar makes me feel weird bc it's so strikingly similar to Cry's avatar.
I will always feel some serious melancholy whenever Cry and LNC is brought up. He was a childhood favorite and I remember loving the LNC's streams, seeing the fanart of the group hits hard.
Cry was a very unhappy person who didn't know how to control his emotions, and lashed out and hurt so many others. He did some foul, disgusting things and is obviously a shitty person that deserves the negative connotations that come with mentioning him nowadays. But I think my inner child will always feel kind of depressed, knowing how him and his group of friends are broken apart because of his selfish and immoral actions.
Well said.
Cry tried to do right, for himself and for others.
But there was no balance for him to strike, so he built an unstable sphere around him and dove into deeper darker corners to escape and/or find purpose.
There's no excusing his actions.
But unlike most youtubers turned pedo/abuser, Cry genuinly didnt mean any pedo/abuse or related actions to happen, nor was it his nature to end up where he ended up.
Cry is not a bad meaning person.
But intention dosnt change anything about the actions one commits.
And Cry messed up.
The part about Russ and "Angel" kinda weirds me out too, in a way. Like he only ever said he had a crush on her, not that they were actually an item. She chose to date someone else, yet it comes off like he felt like he owned her, and she was already his just because he had a crush. That doesn't obligate her to like him back or date him, even if she flirted with him or something. Like I've been there, thinking you might become a thing with someone and they start dating someone else especially someone you're close with, it sucks and it hurts. But she was free to pick whoever she wanted to date. You don't get to call dibs on a person or anything.
Still shitty to go for someone a supposed best friend is into though, especially after doing that with his last relationship, not trying to say Cry didn't do a hurtful thing there.
I've thought the same thing about that too. It is her decision
@@Topgear2006 Glad I'm not the only one! Like he didn't steal her from you or ruin a relationship, she just chose a different option that wasn't him. Sucks, but that's life
@@MariaThePotterNutshe was literally talking about fucking hin over text, not sure how it can get any more serious. But victim blame the person who got abused more.
@@BioshockDrillbeing sexual over dms does not mean you’re in a relationship or serious in any way. Talking and confirming that you are together does. Very immature
yea thats what i was thinking too
I remember seeing the "apology" video before I heard the allegations, and I got that sinking feeling and thought, "Oh god, what did you do?" Then after doing some digging I was heartbroken. He'd been a comfort youtuber for me for years, and I knew everything I'd ever watched from him was going to be ruined forever, I wouldn't be able to watch it again. I hope his victims can heal, and it boils my blood that he never faced any real accountability for what he did. He got to just disappear while the people he hurt have to continue dealing with the consequences of his actions.
That seems to happen more often than not nowadays. I see the apology video, or I start seeing videos about said UA-camr a lot. Example as of late being Colleen Bassinger(???).
Now I'm just waiting for that other shoe to drop in which big UA-camr is gonna be exposed next 😕.
same! i stopped watching him as i got older and one day i remember how i loved his video and went to his channel, saw the “apology” video and was absolutely shocked and heartbroken too. I never really had that type of just sadness with any other youtuber that i watched back in day, it ruined my night
Y'all hae t ofile lawsuits and make police reports. That's why this Colleen shit is getting boring. No one is going forward with legal shit.
It was beyond heart wrenching. I've really never trusted another UA-camr since. I don't trust any celebrity really anymore.
If it's ANY consolation (not really), this dude's messed up mind will haunt him, even if he's anonymous and may not be held accountable by the law, his mind will hold him accountable. I really appreciate this video's title. Cry will undoubtedly see it and there's likely no other word but "failure" that probably shakes him more to his core. It's his biggest insecurity, especially since his failures are all self imposed. His mind and low self image will haunt and punish him more than anyone ever could. His life is also miserable as he allows himself to be walked all over by others in his life. Plus authorities were contacted so he's probably been living in paranoia. The man won't know peace in his life.
It is so sad how I just listened to him a handful of times, knew he knew Jack and Pewds a bit, and then after years of just forgetting about him and going back to see how he was doing - to see ALL OF THIS. Just wow.
When the news dropped I was more or less in denial, but then like slowly accepting it. I feel bad for all the people he hurt. It's just such a tough pill to swallow. His D&D session with Russ and the Late Night Crew was what got me into D&D. That memory is pretty much tainted now.
Feels like this happens to one of my old faves every week 😭😭😭
That's pretty much the exact same way it went for me, crazy how things like this happen and you don't know until years later. Reminds me of SkyDoesMinecraft, loved his videos when I was younger and then I came back years later and found all the shit about him that happened. It's really sad how people you once liked turn out to be evil...
Bro same, he was just one of those youtubers that I completely forgot about and then recently just thought of and wondered how they're doing
Lo and fucking behold, this video shows up on my recommends. UA-cam reading my mind aside, this whole thing is really unsettling.
I loved him, loved how sultry his voice sounded.
Followed his channel for years and clicked with every notification that reached my phone
The fact of the grooming was a hard punch
"she was 16 and cry was 22"
bro, cry... cmon man.
This fucks me up because i remember following Cry through his rise to popularity. Legit I can remember seeing his creepy pasta readings JUST being uploaded and sharing them with my friends at school. I was captivated back then with his voice and the emotion he could put into it. Insane as an adult now to listen back and hear how he spoke and what he did. He literally speaks like a manipulator.
Its crazy how respected cry used to be back in the day he was up there with pewdiepie
back then it's always Pewds, Cry and Ken. Then Mark and Jack also started to rise. Ken kinda fell to obscurity just because he focused more on being with his wife Mary and started being more chill, Cry was still really popular until one time he just vanishes and i remember at the time his Late Night community started throwing stuff like "Damn Cheyenne is toxic" but i kinda ignored the whole thing since i don't really follow him.
But Ken still occasionally showed up on Pewds's vids meanwhile Cry seemed distant. Until one time when Pewds was streaming, a guy in chat asked "Why didn't you play with Cry anymore" and he replied "I just didn't hang out with him anymore, some things are better left unmentioned." In which i thought at the time, friendships kinda drift apart over time. until a week later, theres a video about Cry that just blew up. (Oh and this is also sometime around the Mini Ladd drama too)
Hell given how much Pewdiepie fucked up over the 2014-2016 era the bar was so low and he couldn't even handle that.
@@Illier1In hindsight Pewdiepie has a rough set of years lol. He's a strong person
@@RenShinomiya121 ken did a great job navigating his youtube career with whats trending all while maintaining a family
i never liked cry. there is allways something off with people using a puppet or a mascot like cry, you know they allways have skeletons in the closet
The worst thing about cry is that it felt like he genuinely was a pretty wholesome dude. More so than a lot of UA-camrs. And so when I heard about what he did or... was, I was deeply disappointed. It felt like the world just got a little more rotten.
For real... I was a very depressed kid back then... There was just something so wonderfully comforting about his channel. I instantly fell in love, I watched so many of his let's plays, listened to all the cry reads. He was hands down my favorite UA-camr/entertainer until all this happened.
He seemed so nice
I think another discomforting thing is that, in hindsight... all the pieces really fell together. What a lot of us probably saw as silly quirks or as him doing a bit, they were actually signs of something more disturbing.
He was the first UA-camr I found myself, and actually enjoyed the content of.
I still remember leaving a hopeful comment on Draxr's channel, on the last stream the LNC did. Immediately regretted it.
@@loveableheathen7441me too, I was the exact same way. I had a lot of comfort watching his videos when I was a kid, but markiplier was a lot better and was ACTUALLY a super incredible human
He actually was my favorite youtuber for so many years starting when I was 14. He was part of the reason I got super into rpg maker horror games and (cringe ik I'm sorry) got super into Undertale. I even encouraged friends to watch his videos because I thought at the time that he was so funny and a chill guy. It's so depressing that those good memories I had of watching his videos are just broken now... such a messed up and unstable guy.
I grew up in the generation where Pewds, Mark, Jack, Cry and the others were at their peak. Cry was my personal favorite, since I liked his "calm" demeanor and I like where his range and taste of games are more than the others. Hearing Cry's voice again after years in this video makes me cry but also gag. I'm around my 20's now, and I still couldn't forget how harrowing it is to see both the rise and fall of your favorite youtuber. As much as I loved Cry (and I honestly and genuinely still weep for him) for the solace and peace he gave me as a teen through my darkest times like many others did, I hope he goes through hell for his actions.
What he did wasn't okay and will never be okay. Using mental illnesses can not be an excuse for his shitty actions. I honestly feel for his shitty upbringing cause I also had a shitty upbringing myself as well as two mental illnesses, but I can never vouch for using that excuse to ruin both his and other people's lives. He honestly could have gone down a more brighter and peaceful path if he had just sat and took a hiatus to face himself in the mirror to fix that one, broken inner child. He could have gone to therapy. He could have taken a step back and take a breath and excuse himself so he'll be and feel better. But no.
I hope he goes through hell. As much as I have looked up on him and he became my comfort youtuber I could never stand by him. I genuinely hope he's out there getting his shit together, taking in the consequences of his actions, and be so damn sorry.
also to those like me who missed Cry but couldn't face his vids ever again and had the itch of it, I swear ManlyBadasshero is such an amazing youtuber. I found out about him right after this whole fiasco (who honestly became my saving grace) and he has the same vibe as Cry's LP's. He's now one of my favorites and he's pretty funny and really, really chill and focuses more on a myriad of indie horror games, which is pretty cool c:
This video shows two sides of a person growing up in a terrible household, from one side, Cry, who eventually lets the house break them, and Russ, who sees the house as a problem, and strives to rise above what they once lived through and be better
The only youtuber I ever ended up feeling betrayed by. Just pisses me off what he did to Russ, hearing what he had to say gutted me and conclusively buried my desire to be a Cry fan.
Which quote are you referring to?
@@loveableheathen7441 not sure what you mean by quote, but Russ' entire video response - if that's what you mean.
@@komos3719 ohh my bad I misread. Yeah I agree that shit made me cry
Russ commented on this video, updating where they're all at, it's the pinned comment. He seems to be happy now.
@@PremiumReyes2 hey thanks!
Grew up thinking Cry was just dorky and humble… listening to him again made me realize he was so cringe and defeated
Literally same
physically recoiled at his breakdown it was kinda disturbing
Yeah it’s heart breaking seeing pewdiepie and cry play with each other not knowing what would happen in the future
No wonder the collab fell through@@teamfandomstuckgirl3490
Yeah really, I mean I was in my early 20s and it was 2012, we were all cringe
Cryaotic sounds like a deeply broken individual. That essay he wrote about the boy in the abusive single mother household explains why he in turn became so sexually depraved.
Where did he write an essay? I feel like even this far ahead of everything I'm still finding stuff out of him
@@remmiwilliams it's in the video
Explains it, yes, but does not excuse it. Important distinction
15:00 ish
No shit@@avalonazure5488
Man, this is really motivating me to get my life together.
me too. i’m in a similar position (NOT PEDOPHILE SHIT) where i am overwhelmed by the unproductivity of my life and feel very out of control
@@billcyphers3rdeye I dont think you understand what a pedophile really is. This clown flirted with 15 yo fans when he was 20 something. Plus the dude never did anything physical as far as we know. If he was 30 driving to a 12 yo house to sleep with them that's a pedophile.
Good luck, stranger
Hope you have been dude! 🫡
ditto, gl with it man!
I've always wondered what happened between him and Pewdiepie. Remembered in one livestream someone asked Felix about it, and he gave a subtle hint of what happened, and he was genuinely upset about it, and especially what came out to the light
Source would be appreciated.
@@ultimaxkom8728 it was a livestream that he did two years ago or so where he went into it a little bit. There's also another video if you search for it where he very quickly skipped Cry's part
"It is what it is"
Cry honestly to this day still has the best playthroughs of SEVERAL games. He was one of the very few Let's Play'ers that actually let the game tell its story and he paid attention. His commentary only added to each one.
These days most channels are constantly talking over dialogue, not paying attention to the story or basic mechanics, and then complain about how confused they are.
Then he threw it all away.
There are still a bunch of great youtubers who let the game tell their story as well as add commentary, but you're right that Cryaotic was one of the earliest ones of that style that actually took off.
Try CJUgames, Chris, he is a small let’s player, mostly horror and he is similar to Cry when he plays. He is funny and calm (mostly) and smart (mostly), he seems like an overall great guy. So far he doesn’t complain or cries about his struggles. He just announces when he took breaks or moved. He uploads every day, except weekends (and sometimes even weekends).
Give it a shot.
I actually believe that CJU deserves much more viewers/subs, because he is genuinely good. And he has no facecam during the play, but before and after to show some of the best reactions during the game and to say goodbye. 😂
Watch christopherodd he’s a good one
I think manlybadasshero is great as well.
Love ManlyBadassHero, he really let's the games take centre stage :D@@00DarkPhoenix00
I have screenshots from a search I did at some point after this all went down. I knew Florida was open about bookings compared to other states. I found a mugshot of someone who matched the description the Crew hinted at over the years. Blond hair, bigger guy, beard. The charge was "Enticing a child for indecent purposes". Ryan Daniel Terry, booked on 2/4/2021. I never got any further update on that case, but it was enough closure for me, thinking Snake and the victims really did contact an agency, that there was justice of some kind. It just... came out of nowhere, yet it was so obvious. Hard to describe that revelation at the time, after being a viewer for about a decade.
how credible is that tho
where can I find this mugshot
Its a georgia mugshot, not Florida.
Cheyenne said his name is 100% Ryan Terry.
ua-cam.com/video/RiYYtUNA9NA/v-deo.htmlsi=dbrQB5M-JSutiCE3 wat bout this...
i remember this deviantart artist i followed a long time ago who spent their whole time on there making very well drawn fanart of cry and his friends. all of the hours they probably spent on those drawings just to go down the drain like that, i can’t imagine how that person feels…
was that scribblenetty? i also thought of all the animations she did for cry and pewdiepie together...
@@eehh2578 i remember that person too!! but idk i feel it was somebody else their style was more anime-adjacent…
I can't remember their username but was it the person who was trying to make a Cryaotic anime?
Cry went from being someone I could sympathize with to a predator. I disagree that what made him a failure was his inability to do anything with the opportunities he had for success on the internet. I've been there. So depressed that literally nothing could give me enough satisfaction or dopamine to motivate me. A therapist once asked me what kind of life would make me happy if I could do literally anything. I couldn't come up with a single thing. Mental health problems on that level can seriously incapacitate you. HOWEVER, that doesn't excuse his abusive behavior in any way. Especially considering he seemed perfectly aware that what he was doing was wrong and was intentionally hiding it. Severe, untreated (and sometimes even with treatment) depression can make it impossible to care for yourself and be successful in your life and career. It doesn't make it impossible not to prey on others.
This!!! Very well said, I hope this gets more likes
I really appreciate this comment. I also have been in that place, I understand the feeling. But it is such a big leap to become a predator. Mental illness in no way excuses it.
Hope youre doing better now ♥️
@fallenangel3742 I am, thank you! One of the big turning points for me was doing an intense course of DBT group therapy when I was at rock bottom. It focused more on how to manage my symptoms instead of trying to cure the depression and anxiety. I had always thought that approaching it as a chronic illness instead of as something I could fix would be too much like giving up. Instead, the coping mechanism managed to get me enough peace to actually start making progress. I went from the worst I had ever been to almost normal function for the first time in my life in my late 20s. I'm in my early 30s, now, and I'm excited about my life. I didn't know it was possible to feel like this, and now I know why life always seemed so much easier for "normal" people 😅
TLDR: Keep trying different approaches if you have persistent mental illness. You can be in unsuccessful treatment for decades and finally find something that works for you.
@@corvinredacted I feel similarly to you; I struggled through my 20's with depression and manic episodes of behavior; but never did that once spill over to commit a crime or harm someone other than myself. I had been a huge fan of Cry for years, and the emotion he could manage to get behind his voice without even adding a self-cam, and devastated when I learned he was a POS; in addition to another guy I liked that he collaborated with, Boyinaband. There's never an 'excuse' behind harm you do; no matter what harm you're suffering, there's a way to get around it without hurting others.
Man, for me, Cry was the first one that stung. His videos and songs were a huge comfort to me back when I was younger, and 2020 feels like a lifetime ago now.
edit: Yes, 2020 was 3 years ago, that's my point. It feels like it's been a decade since his breakdown and shit hit the fan, but it's only been a couple years cuz of all the wild stuff that happened over the last few years. But yeah, I used to watch him when I was a young teenager, and he seemed so wholesome. When I found out he was pan, it was so cool having someone I looked up to be the same as me, and then he turned out to be a creep. I guess I was lucky that I wasn't the type to DM creators or try to get involved, or I could have been one of his victims.
It's only been 3 years since 2020 chill 😂
Same, I even had two of his shirts, really sucks cause I liked those ones
@kingkmtso5107 they legit acted like they were 30 and its been 25 years, then I did a double take on 2020...
I watched his dishonored playthrough like 10 times at least just as background noise, so this totally sucked to find out
@@kingkmtso5107 "2020 feels a lifetime ago now" meaning they know?
I religiously watched his Let’s Plays and streams as a teenage girl (and yes, I absolutely had a huge crush on him). I remember watching his breakdown birthday stream but not really understanding all the shit behind it. I remember being floored when all the information came out. Coincidentally, by then I was very closely involved in the Smash Bros Melee community. It made up most of my friend group. June 20th, Cry was outted. June 30th, countless members of the smash community were outted. Felt like my past and present all shattered at once. I still have a Cry plushie that I used to cuddle with tucked away in my closet, gathering dust. Not sure why I keep it. I refuse to clean it. Just feels symbolic
As much as I kind of hate to say it. The fact it's been as long as it has and no one has said anything in regards to Cry or the situations. He may have "opted out" as they say. He was 31, still living at home, mental health issues, no real friends, no type of healthy schedule what so ever, deep emotional problems. Then he loses the one thing he had, his online life and persona. Essentially being erased off the internet from Twitch, UA-cam, etc. The way he had already been declining mentally and then everything exploding in his face. I wouldn't be surprised if it got to him in the end.
I used to watch HELLA cry growing up. His collabs with Pewds were my favorites. I remember so many nights as a teenager going to bed with his let's plays on. He was soothing in a chaotic household I was growing up in. I fell off keeping up with everyone for years after I got out of highschool. One day I thought "I wonder what been going on with these people I used to watch" Everyone like Pewds, Ken, Marikplier, etc were all doing good, having families, getting big on youtube, but I couldn't find anything on Cry and I noticed everyone stopped collabing with him years prior. So I went to his channel and just got side swiped with confusion. Hearing the last 2 videos he had posted, then reading all the comments below, slowly piecing things together, looking up things on Twitter, UA-cam, sort of deepdiving, and my heart sank. One of the youtuber's I found to be most relatable, soothing, funny, and enjoyable to watch turned out to be someone I needed to stay FAR the F away from. I am currently 29 and the thought of someone my current age going after me when I was 15, 16, 17 using their online persona and fandom to gain traction on me freaks me out. I feel so bad for the victims he used, cheated on, lied to, and the friendships he utterly didn't seem to give a ish about at the end of the day.
He destroyed all his friendships through lies, and infidelity. There is a part of me that considers with his background, child hood, mental health. That MAYBE there was a part of him at the time that really didn't see what he was doing was wrong, or that he couldn't comprehend the situation he was participating in, but eventually he did, and I think once he realized all of the bad things that happened to him in his youtube career were because of him. There is a part of me wondering if he could even cope with it. Like he tried to continue his streaming and posting on youtube like things weren't as bad as they actually were, or like he REALLY thought his actions weren't that bad cause he never actually got physical with anyone, or whatever the case may be. Him realizing "Oh sh-t it really IS this bad...there are a LOT of people suddenly exposing a bunch of things I said to them... people are connecting dots... people are asking too many questions that I don't know how to answer, if I am honest everyone will hate me anyway, but they seem to already hate me, so whats the point?"
I think the pressure of owning up to everyone, everything he has done over the years was just too much. Which is why he never ended up posting a follow up video, or even stream, or anything. He couldn't face ALL the consequences and cries for answers on some serious allegations at once. If he was potentially investigated by the FBI for messing around with minors or what not, that could be another reason we never got an update since. Depending how legit any of it actually was. But yeah regardless... It is really sad to see how 1 person SO many people grew up with and looked up too had destroyed so many lives and affected so many people in ways I am sure still occasionally affect them.
It’s so insane watching manipulators/abusers cry and play victim, even though it’s such an expected behavior it shocks me when they do it every time. Like cry sitting on stream sobbing saying “I hate disappointing people” while wrecking his friends relationship and grooming children is peak freaky manipulative creep behavior
"I've always just wanted to make people happy" 🤨🤨🤨🤨
And then the "apology" bruh. I remember watching that shit and being like "bro drop the facade and come clean you piece of shit".
Legit not a pint of remorse in anything he was saying.
no bro thats the thing they fully believe it too!!!! and that literally makes it almost worse to me cause its like wow you really just cant stop yourself huh, you really dont see people as autonomously important enough to take responsibility over what you really think and how you Really treat them
There are a lot of cases where someone might look like an abuser because they're simply lashing out and against the actual abuser. Gotta be wary of those. But this isn't obviously one of those cases, pretty much as clear cut and dry as you can get.
@@YazYaro youre correct and that was definitely how his viewers viewed his ex, you can see in the comments when she got on stream drunk with him how everybody was hating on her for saying mean stuff to him... little did they know that he deserved that plus more >_>
At best they have a victim complex that they think justifies their actions in their head. At worst they're just crocodile tears being used to try and get out of being held accountable. However, I imagine it's probably the former here. Someone who wears a mask a lot tends to not be very emotionally stable, as it were. And when someone just blames everybody else for their problems, they tend to keep doubling down because that's all they can do to try and excuse their horrible behavior.
When this whole thing was first revealed I felt so betrayed and angry. The mere sound of Cry’s voice made my skin crawl after learning everything. But now it’s just… sad. Hearing him again after all this time was more heartbreaking than I expected. It’s like looking at the ashes where your old high school was. There were some good memories there but mostly it sucked, and you can’t even be glad that it’s gone
I think a main reason why so many successful UA-camrs are eventually called out for interacting with minors is the combination of getting rich young and running out of excitement. When you give a kid millions of dollars, they're bound to do dumb shit, and once they're out of dumb shit to do you'll seek to do things normal soecity wouldn't want you to do, like have sex with a minor, do hard drugs, pay for snuff content etc.
It's actually a very very common pattern amongst rich people to suddenly grow very dark tendencies after a while. Once you've obtained what you want in life it might be human nature to be drawn towards things you know you shouldn't have or things you know you shouldn't do. It's a very interesting psychological topic that I would want to learn more about in the future.
Then why is it majority men doing it though? if its human nature you would see all the female makeup gurus and vloggers be as predatory (a lot of them turn out to be shitty people but not grooming minors). Sure there are some female youtubers that have been predatory (colleen balinger for example) but it's just sooooo much more common for male youtubers. I don't think fame or power turns anyone bad it just allows them to do act out their deep desires, it might take some time for them to build up the confidence to do the heinous shit they want to so that's why their behavior start showing after some time. Maybe males are statistically more prone to predatory desires due to socialization or something... idk.
this is why I never understood why people idolize celebrities and other social media figures, most of them are sociopaths at heart.
It’s hard to get fame…………if you’re sane
That’s the problem. We’re too quick to put people on pedestals but, when something surfaces about that person, we want to knock them down and put on surprised pikachu faces when it happens. People act like UA-camrs, influencers and celebrities aren’t human and don’t mess up or do stupid things.
Cry: "Maybe I'll stop doing that."
Joon: "He will not stop doing that."
This transition deserves a fucking award
I must have missed it, dammit. I'll pay more attention to the transitions when I eventually re-watch because that sounds pretty great, in a morbid kind of way.
@@mikeexits 26:51
Arrested Development style.
bro turned into jcs 😂
I can break these cuffs.
"This is just gonna be a chill birthday stream, okay guys? Let's get this party started!"
6 minutes later.
"It's all falling apart, the sun never shines on my house and I'm in a downward spiral. Fuck everything!"
That was certainly a depressing birthday. Guess I'll pour one to a dead homie.
I'm so sorry for your loss. May they rest in peace.
I remember i took a break from him once i got to freshman year of high school just bc i got into other different interests and what not. After i graduated i got all nostalgic and started rewatching and catching up on new videos and livestreams from him. Literally the day after that he uploaded The final video. Felt kind of like a cruel cosmic joke. lol.
Russ is so right! How could you come from a broken childhood where your own mother was cheated on by your step father, an action you hated and resented that man for, and then turn around do the same thing to your friend?!
Same reason that a lot of childhood-abuse victims wind up being child-abusers in their older years.
I remember watching his Cat Lady playthrough and how... _nice and supportive_ he was of the main character, stopping occasionally to talk through heavy topics like self harm, su*cide, depression and _emotionally abusive relationships_ with such tact and care. But I guess that just goes to show that you can have someone who understands or even just parrots good and helpful sentiments but is still themselves a bad and harmful person. Everything he did to his victims was a complete betrayal of what he led his community to believe. Given how easy it was for him to do all that while putting on a supportive or sympathetic face for his audience, I don't think that he could ever or should ever be trusted to come back.
(I edited the last line to say "I don't think" instead of "I don't know" because I realised from replies that it sounds almost like I think Cry should come back. To be clear: I do not want him back. I think that due to the constant pity parties he threw for himself and the young people he emotionally sexually abused he should stay logged off forever.)
Parasocial relationships are a hoot. And no, don't trust people online. Did your parents never tell you that?
All the harm he caused, is due to the control and influence he receives from people like you. It doesn't go any deeper than that.
@@JEDUBBELLEThat's a bit of a stretch. Saying someone handled an important topic with tact and that seemed cool is hardly a parasocial relationship.
@@JEDUBBELLE Excuse me but you extrapolated _a lot_ more about my "relationship" with this creator than I actually stated. I watched some animations involving him and a few playthroughs. I never saw any of his streams or watched the multiple emotional breakdown videos shown in this essay. I had no parasocial relationship with this man as I didn't even make an account to comment on UA-cam until 2016, but I did think he was a decent person until I realised it was all a lie due to his ability to hide his secrets behind a kind persona. So kindly take your want to ride a victim blaming high somewhere else, thanks. In fact, don't victim blame at all! Do you _really_ believe the kids and teens who were fans of his content are to be blamed for his online pedophilic conduct as a 22 year old man and up? Reevaluate your opinions immediately.
Virtue signalers often turn out to have the filthiest closets.
i completely understand your sentiment, i definitely enjoyed that playthrough and it is so, so unfortunate that it was an act yet it felt so natural. in my personal opinion, i’d like to see what that second proper apology video would look like. however, staying off the internet forever is the best outcome for the victims and everyone involved in the situation.
It’s crazy how Cry was literally the blueprint for Corpsehusband and Dream. A smooth voice that got millions hooked. Thankfully the other two haven’t gone too far off the edge yet but I don’t hold out hope. I used to love his longer horror game playthroughs, shit hurt to hear when he got accused then confessed.
He was. I remember around the time I stopped watching cry (16 or 17) and started watching manlybadasshero. I hope corpse doesn't end up like cry. I haven't really watch dream.
I'd be willing to bet corpse and dream have similar skeletons in their closets
@@Bruh-ok1rq true. I hope for the best but most likely it will be true in one way or another
@@Bruh-ok1rqDream's been proven, Corpse, even if he wanted to, I couldn't arse myself to imagine.
Both of them have me very suspicious. Whether is warranted or not.
Dream’s mask is basically almost the exact same as Cry’s little character. When I first saw fanart of Dream I genuinely thought Cry was actually trying for a comeback. Not saying that part is suspicious. Just a weird coincidence.
I would listen to Cry Reads to sleep at night most of my high school and college career. It's really sad to see where he ended up because it was something that really helped me though a tough stretch of time in my life.
I used to watch Cry a lot back when I was 11-15. This was to the point that I would stay up at ridiculous times to catch streams of Late Night with Cry and Russ. I even made a Tumblr account simply because I knew Cry had one. When I think back on it, my fangirling hit me very hard and made up a large chunk of my middle school years. A lot of the horror games I love now are due to watching his channel. Unfortunately, I feel like many of those games have been tainted for me as I can no longer stand to think of the connections to him. At this point, I don't even watch Let's Players because I just assume they will do something stupid and have instead started to stream myself so that I can experience games without a middle man. I hope wherever Cry is these days, he’s haunted by the consequences of his own self-destructive actions.
I'm struggling to give a shit about what Cry's saying during his last livestream. "I hate disappointing people" if that were true he wouldn't have been hitting on Russ' girlfriend. "I just wanna make people happy" is one of the most self-pitying phrases around. I can't be fucked to have any sympathy for this guy outside of drunk mother and rotating stepdads. Great video.
Facts How tf is he gonna break down when he did this to himself 💀 image getting mad your actions have consequences
Breaking down when he can't use his pain from his childhood to improve himself. He have so many opportunities
The title of this video is indeed accurate. A failure
imma disagree with the self pitying phrase thing lol just cause I've said that and I wasn't upset or anything I just wanted a friend to understand why I'll drive wherever or buy whatever just so we all can enjoy whatever is going on
@@Cutiepie0111 Maybe because it sank in finally genius...
@@YEETUSDAFEETUScontext is key here
I was a fan of Cry when I was a child. I watched his ōkami play through religiously. As a kid, it’s easy to miss that he always talked like a mental patient because he just sounded like…everyone else during that era of UA-cam. But now that I’m grown, homeboy was UNWELL. Like, probably from the start.
That's something that got me too, like I didn't really watch the Cry Talks, but sheesh how naïve was I as a kid to miss this much??
I'm aware this may be way off topic but if you ever wanted to revisit watching a playthrough of Okami I suggest chuggaconroy's playthrough. The guy has times during his let's play where he shares facts about of japanese mythology and folklore that the game draws inspiration from (dude legit did homework before doing the lets play) , in addition he also gives good advice and strategies on the game.
If you haven't seen chuggaconroy's let's play, I highly recommend it being the best let's play of the game, (the definitive let's play in my opinion .
Sorry about the off topic, I'm jusr very passionate about Okami and hearing about let's plays made me what to share others of good let's plays by other youtubers
Same
God, that Okami playthrough meant so much to me. I just binged it all in one go and it was so comfy. Same with his Bioshock playthrough.
Cry actually was the one who introduced me to Undertale too, which is really fucking weird to think about
@@urheehoo because every mental patient is the same
good job generalizing everything!
Cry's playthrough of Ib was one of my favourite playthroughs of all time. Listening to the clips you played and his voice gave me heavy nostalgia for when I was 14 and watching it after school. I loved Ib, The Crooked Man, Mad Father, Ao Oni and so many of the other RPG horror games of that time and my memories of them are pretty intrinsically linked to him. Which sucks knowing what I do now
right there w you that playthrough was everything to me, Corpse Party too. I tried watching them the other day because I heard after a while without uploading you stop getting revenue from youtube so i figured it wouldn’t benefit him in anyway but even hearing his voice now makes me feel nauseous :( sucks ass.
It feels like thinking of an old ex and re living the good memories and missing them and then remembering the horrible things they did and the way they hurt those around them and you realize again that there’s a reason they’re gone
Felix, Cry, Mark, and Jack were my UA-cam reprieve growing up. Mostly Cry. Really sad how everything went down. Nowadays I only really watch Mark.
@@Cocedealer almost all the comments are venting what’s the point of choosing ones and being salty
@@emmabenton-rx4lrCause some people just want to be cool. They're not.
Fwiw, Jack's a genuinely lovely guy. Felix also seems alright and has definitely matured despite making some bad mistakes a few years back in his career.
Dodger too. Kept wondering why they never finished their collab.
@@thegshowgamesandmovies9448to me personally, I accepted his dark humor because he knows when to humble his fans when they go feral against others. Most youtubers used their fans as a shield to get away from responsibility even if that genuinely hurt people. I also like how his audience matures with him, like I never seen someone complaining about a Pewdiepie fan.
Speaking of his fans being mature, there was this one viral video from Jubilee, his community is the only audience that sympathize for a single mother. Other UA-camrs' community don't take single mothers kindly from my experience, so they usually ignore her existence and chose a different person to sympathize with even if he lied about some charity.
He also chose his lover over his audience and wasn't scared to show her face. Some youtubers don't usually show their lover because it really pressed the audience, possibly causing heated debates from each side. Years ago, I think if was around 2011? I remember Pewd's fans protested how he "changed" and so they tried to blame everything on Marzia. Of course, he defended her a lot. Some male UA-camrs are willing to disrespect and throw away their SO for fans that never show their face just coz they protest that her presence ruined the content.
Bro wasn't a good person, but it's easy to say he matured a lot.
"I don't like to talk about myself"
That sure aged well, Cry.
This one hit hard. First and only youtuber I watched religiously. Watched every new video that dropped since like 2012 and always looked forward to the next upload.
Still take a trip down memory lane every now and again and just look through the catalogue of old videos. So sad.
This was such a hard thing to watch happen in real time, especially given WHEN it happened. 2020 was rough for everyone for obvious reasons, but for me I lost my best friend in February-who had incidentally introduced me to Cry-then my cat that I’d had since I was a child in May on the anniversary of my mom’s death. I tried turning to a presence that had been calming for me in the past and found this whole shitshow going down. Obviously my experience was relatively insignificant, but given everything else it felt like yet another personal catastrophe in an extremely short period
oh my god that sounds like a horrible time to learn ab this :( im so sorry
Just hearing his voice again made me cry. Cryaotic was such a huge part of my childhood and such a short of comfort. His betrayal is still to this day the most painful one.
Same here, I had to stop the second they played his voice because it just hurts so bad. I watched his streams almost everyday through college while dealing with a lot on my mind, but then the pandemic hit and this all came out. I was devastated, especially because that twitch community was amazing to be a part of.
Honestly It has been so long since I saw a Cryaotic video that I kinda forgot what he sounded like. Which makes me feel sad.
ye i stopped watching lets plays once i started college and had money to buy my own games. was at some point wondering what happened to Cry and then shortly after this whole thing came out like nooooo not you too 😅😭
I got into so many of my favorite games because of Cry. He’s literally a part of why I like the games I do today, and it’s such a weird feeling knowing he turned out like he did
Agreed. Still the one that hurts the most, still today. I cried so hard the day he uploaded that manic episode video. I made friends thanks to him and felt understood. I felt he was more honest and laidback and really liked him for that. Hell I even had a crush and some of my friends did too. Boy did I not see that one coming. But thanks to that I found another creator in the same vibe just waaay more wholesome: Manlybadasshero. And he is really talented and laidback too. If anyone is interested I really recommend him !
Man.
I remember a very heartfelt video Cry made addressed to his newborn niece for her to see in the future. I remember watching that and thinking "Damn. this is a good person."
Lost potential is right. That stings quite hard.
I think about his niece every once in awhile. Although he was a piece of crap who would screw people over without much thought, you could really tell he was invested in making sure his niece had a good life. It makes me sad, because at the time of his downfall, he was basically his family's only financial lifeline. He just bought a brand new house in Florida for all of them to live in. Who knows what happened to them.
I remember him becoming an uncle too! I hope her mother knows enough to keep him far away from her.
@@thaloblue Unfortunately, from what I remember, his sister was leeching lots of money off him. So with the majority of his income drying up, I can't imagine that went well.
OUCH. I completely forgot about about it. I remember thinking it the sweetest thing someone's ever done for a newborn family member. Honestly I kinda hope she never finds the video. It'd probably be for the better.
@@Scrofar Same, sad as it is.
Cry did some terrible, inexcusable things. But, I can’t help but feel empathy for the other aspects of his downfall. Aside from the degenerate grooming/cheating/whatever else, I think a lot of us can relate to feeling stagnant in life. To be a popular content creator with these issues must be a nightmare. I often think about how I would be as a content creator and I’m sure it would be similar to Cry. I’d be inconsistent and unmotivated, unable to commit to the content creation even as a hobby. If I were to become popular, I’d feel horrible for disappointing everyone and spiral. Popularity comes at a steep, steep price and almost nobody is creating content with a goal of staying obscure and not getting paid. If your popularity declines (for whatever reason), so does your mental state - this is true even for small creators with smaller audiences.
It just sucks that we have to watch people destroy themselves… that we have to suffer along with everyone else affected in a downfall like this. Of course, like I said, the grooming he did was just unforgivable and inexcusable. But we watched Cry’s downfall in real time. Having felt the same feelings he was honest and real about is what made him so likable… and also what made it so upsetting when he fell.
Honestly this video is so hard to get through as someone who used to watch Cry. Even though I know he's not a good person, the child in me that used to watch his videos is still there... Hearing him break down in these clips shatters my heart even though it's been a while now since all this came out. It's just so depressing. I really hope the people that he affected are doing well... Russ, Scott, Snake and the victims that he messaged all deserve to be happy without this weighing their hearts down.
So regrettable, his lets plays were perfect for me. His commentary added to the game's story, not detracted from it, he had a calm and soothing voice, he was funny but also laid back. He let the game shine and his editing only polished it. To bad he couldn't handle popularity or his own base urges.
his content was top tier, such a shame he's an actual scumbag
He definitely had an impact on a lot of people. A champion. But champions fall, and the only thing to do is remember the best of times, and move on.
His voice was obnoxious.
I was around at the time and liked PewDiePie myself but watching clips of him, he sounds like a creep. How can anyone find this voice soothing? Of course hes into minors with a voice like that.
@@VG-fk6nk I watched his let's plays when i was younger and liked his style, he seemed witty and genuinely immersed in the games he played so it was fun to watch. Now though, all i feel is disgust thinking about him and i've not been able to watch any of his videos since it was revealed he preyed on kids. It was so shocking when i first learned of it i was actually legit feeling like i was going to puke for days afterwards. Seriously, i can't feel any joy even thinking about his old content anymore. And he shouldn't be remembered as anything except what he is, an predator.
No wonder his avatar was that smiley, it's the mask he wore at all times so people would like him. Hiding his true absolutely disgusting self.
Cry's breakdown really hit me hard. I lost a family member around my last year of high school. It hit me bad. My grades tanked, I barely graduated, and I didn't do anything for yaers. 'I'm 30 years old and I haven't even started my life', a sentiment I'm worried I'm going to share. I just started college at 25, and I feel guilty for doing nothing with my life out of high school. I have no sympathy for a pedophile. But I worry about ending up like this. I'm hoping I can 'start' my life and turn it around.
hey, no ones timeline of their life looks the same! congrats on starting college 🎉
Your story actually gives me comfort. I lost my dad right at the end of Highschool. Threw a wrench in everything. It’s been over a year and I’m still struggling to get on with my life. I hope I can be like you and eventually get ahold of myself.
Hey, if you read this: I'm 29 and I just graduated. Lets look at tit this way... when you look back 20 years from now when you're 45, you'll remember you were a young person just starting their life with the freedoms of an adult. How about now? You were a little kid who couldnt even drive.
Your adulthood is just beginning! You havent wasted anything!
Jesus, I thought you were talking about me here. What you described is literally my life. I also just started college at 25. Cheers to better years to come!
Pedophile, really? He was 20 something and was having sex with 16 year olds. Here in Finland that's the age of consent and is pretty normal.
I was a fan of cry back in the early-mid 2010s as a teenager then stopped watching for a while, then decided to get back into his content again by joining his BIRTHDAY STREAM 😭 he did mention in that mess that he was going to upload a video the next day to get things off his chest and he was like, legitimately feeling relief that he was able to talk about this stuff and was looking forward to it. Fucking crazy what it ended up being about
I LOVED Cry when I was a teenager (I’m 30 now). I would put his let’s plays on and just have them as background noise and would sleep to his soothing voice. I was heartbroken when I decided to look and see where he had been because I stopped keeping up with him because of life. My teenage self connected so much to him
It sounds like Cryaotic is a classic example of the "Cycle of abuse", growing up likely never learning how to deal with emotional issues and needing validation so desperately he'd go to extremes for it.
Not excusing anything he has done, but I do think it's depressing to see that the dude didn't get the help they needed in time.
yeah no absolutely. it was just kinda.. sad watching this video because i've seen (and met!) people that've broken that cycle of abuse, but some just... don't. i don't know why. i don't think anyone can really know why. but fuck, it's vaguely depressing to see someone so complicated and troubled sink further into the darkest parts of themself. people tried again and again and again to give him an out, to help, to do whatever else. but for whatever reason he just didn't take it. he pulled so many others down with him and it's sad, man.
You’re not excusing his issues at all, you’re just making a point, and honestly this is how we need to look at these issues because it’ll help prevent future cases
@@maldacahMost people who don’t break that cycle are stuck in internal limbo of the past, coupled with deep self-loathing of themselves. Idk how to articulate it, but that kind of deep rooted mindset is very hard to get out of, especially if the person themselves don’t want to change and the get help they need. It’s more complicated, but you get what I mean.
@@boodledemic6430no. its not about mental health its about perversion and predatory behavior and quite frankly we should not feel any sympathy for that disguting subhuman behavior. man is a literal pedo. i have no sympathy for his deplorable actions. hes had every opportunity in the world to improve and in the end he faced no real consequences despite comitting very real crimes. its disgusting. honestly its so disgusting to see so much sympathy for a pedo in these comments. this is the sympathy his victims deserve
Plenty of people have bad upbringings and don't become pedophiles. He could've had a great childhood and fame/money still would've led to this same depraved behavior.
Cry’s channel feels like a desecrated throne in a ruined castle, ever being taken over by the sprawling overgrowth.
Now the rains weep o'er his hall.. and not a soul to hear...
No roses, only thorns like needles
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Overgrown by Dream's trashier growth in popularity surrounded by even more children.
@@ZamrayzRayzoray I don't know what's worse. Him or dream. I never watch dream but i grew up with cry and he is the person that give pewdiepie nickname pewd.
Maturing is looking back on cry and coming to the conclusion that he’s literally got the persona of a discord mod
Grew up watching this dude, relating a little due to family issues. However, I grew up and repaired these damaged relationships, rather than letting them worsen while my decision making plummeted. Depressing to see what happened. Guess that’s life.
It's sad scrolling through these comments and reading about how disappointed everyone was by this. Y'all just wanted to support a dude you thought was sweet, wholesome, and chill. Which is in itself very sweet. You're all good kids. ):
Bruh its hilarious mfs say he needs help but thats the best part avoyt growing up and becoming an adult you see there is no help for these sick fucks cause there's no concequences for them. Fuck his fans trying to help him they need to grow up and see it at this point
I just wanna be nice. He strived to radiate as much positivity and sweetness as he could and I tried to do the same, only to find out he'd been lying from the beginning. Well, I wasn't. I'm still not; and I won't let a shitty guy who tricked me make me feel bad for trying to be a nice person.
@@kattastic9999 I think it is more complicated than that. I would assume that cry really and honestly wanted to be the person he pretended to be but he was emotionally unable to not engage in the cheating and grooming stuff. This in turn lead into his self-hatred and the downwards spiral, similar to a drug addict who honestly wants to quit but simply can't. So I rather feel pity for him in some way which I would not if he would just be the type of lying, psychopathic asshole that ridicules the people he betrays behind their backs. I.e. he is rather broken than evil.
@@vampir753 Honestly I think you're right, but that's almost worse.
@@kattastic9999 Kind of, the question is what could he do at this point to rehabilitate himself? Even if he would be 100% honest about all of it now, would his community accept him again or would there enough haters remain to make it impossible for him to continue? Is he even still alive? I am almost always for giving people a chance to move on and I think from what i have seen in this video about him he probably deserves a chance.
Cryotic brought upon the "youtubers actually being child predators" phase of UA-cam. Truly an online pioneer
Do they turn out to be that way because they never grew up and they never really had healthy attention, so when they have it they're just more likely to abuse it?
@@emilyau8023 bit of both for sure
@@emilyau8023 It has a lot more to do with the effect of fame/wealth than upbringing. Having power over an audience of underaged girls that worship you.
@@TheBakerZeni feel like they were always predators, just with fame were allowed to abuse their power and know that because they’re popular, there’s still going to be people who like them
also bc it’d be really hard for the victim to speak up abt it if the person has a large and deeply dedicated fan base
I remember finding out about his breakdowns on one fine, sunny afternoon, and crying along with him. I was pretty much just another teenage fan who found comfort and happiness in his Let's Plays or readings. Little did I know the reality of what happened later, I felt so betrayed and let down instead. Man. And he had so much eloquence and humor as well that made him so unique. It's a damn shame he went down the way he did.
I am now graduating college in a month from now. More power to the survivors who spoke their truth because they're the real heros in this story.
Hell yeah brother
I remember when this all went down, i was looking into everything all at once, it was so overwhelming I felt so bad for Russ and the rest of the gang.
Cry and Dodger’s Dandelion series on her channel was my emotional support series for several years. After the drama came out I tried rewatching it again and it just wasn’t the same. It’s very deeply depressing to have something I cherished for years suddenly tainted.
There’s this one part from the playthrough I remember specifically where the main love interest is being textbook abusive and Dodger comments that this is an abusive relationship cycle and Cry affirms that and says “Ladies: Don’t let a man treat you like this. Ever.” It really… sits strange now knowing what we know.
oh my god that was my series too. It's what I downloaded on my phone to watch during my hospital stay when I knew I would have no internet there. Just the whole Dandelion series. I still watch Dodger streams but I can't hear cry's voice without being sick nowadays. I remember in this one stream she was asked about cry and just said "welp, if the dude is accused of something and just vanishes off the face of the earth, he's probably guilty". I felt so bad because she just lost a friend.
Oooofff, I just remembered that...
@@namelessliberty9869What makes me feel worse is that when the drama happened on Twitter she said she felt sick being associated with him because she (nor any of his friends or collaborators) knew nothing and was told Chey was just some crazy ex girlfriend.
wow you just took me back! i was obsessed with that series in high school and heartbroken they never finished it!
For me it was cox and cry play resident evil 6 it was such a comfy hilarious playthrough that when the pandemic started that was the series i went to for comfort halfway through rewatching that series the allegations came out and it hit hard man, the place i went for comfort turned to shit.
Damn, i haven't heard crys voice since i was 16, before everything came out. This totally has ruined my childhood. I hope that justice is served for his horrid actions.
This whole thing ruined my childhood as well. It was a shock the last time I attempt to revisit his channel only to see that final Cry talks video. Never watch anything related to him since, until this video.
I was surprised it hurt so much, Hearing everything coming out slowly with more evidence was just... awful and I feel for everyone involved. Very bummed out about it
same i used to watch his videos all the time and it’s been so long i never even thought he was capable of this but i hope he does get proper punishment for his irrevocable actions
Don't kid yourself, absolutely nothing will happen to him. Doesn't matter if every single accusation is true, it needs to be proven beyond reasonable doubt to count in court.
At this point, would they even pursue it? It’s been so damn long since it’s happened
Now that I’m out of it, why did he talk like that lmaooo
During my edgy teen phase I thought Cry was the absolute role model, but now, as a 25 year old, I hear his words and I see how much he complains and how many excuses he makes instead of acting on what bothers me. "My personality isn't for that", "my life isn't great" and yet, instead of trying to find a solace or change the things he can, he just stays put and complains.
Yeah, we can't change everything, but making small adjustments in our lives to live at least a bit happier even with depression or issues is doable. He just sounds like a whiny teen but he's midway through his 20s in these videos
So many old creators revealed to be absolute creeps but none of them hurt as much as what Cry turned out to be. Like he was genuinely one of my favorite youtubers, his voice was always so calming to me, and his style of let's plays was just more enjoyable to follow along than others. But after hearing about him, I can't even stand to revisit a single video of his. It hurts more because he had such a good "wholesome" reputation. And I know it's stupid to put your blind trust on a UA-camR for god's sake, but I was a child back then and I grew up with his content. Like imagine if the dude from Blue's Clues turned out to be a murderer, that's how it felt to me. Just so disappointing. I feel so bad for his victims and I wish he was found out sooner. What a shitty dude
Trust no male
@@everythingallatonce321 Trust, love and respect no female.
^^^^ you both need therapy
Have a healthy amount of respect and skepticism for both genders.
@@everythingallatonce321...why not? :(
His Cat Lady playthrough is what helped me realize I had depression when I was a kid and I was able to get the help I needed after that. The fact he was always pulling this shit sours that memory for such an important time in my life
I got into the game because of him
The same. I got into the game because of him, but barely watch it since I wanted to play it for myself. Taught me a lot about depression and the traps of self deprication. Knowing who Cry really was kind of sour my experince, but just like Eye of Adam, its probably best to just let him be forgotten.
29:13 i remember angel, Russ and cry playing dokapon kingdom, and one stream you could tell there was something really off between them, and they decided to stop the stream. I'm 90% sure now, that was when Russ confronted them...
Also, it was very obvious there was something happening between angel and cry to his audience. Constantly just the 2 of them streaming together.
I remember his life is strange ssn 2 streams being obnoxious because of it.
30:15 or other members of the LNC for that matter... Jund and Cheyenne HATED each other, and Ziegs was basically being bullied by her.
Not to mention she was an incredibly toxic, and manipulative person.
Y'know the shitty part? He was genuinely funny with Felix and Ken when they played stuff together, he had some genuinely good horror let's plays, and he covered a lot of obscure games. He had everything laid out to be a lasting successful channel and he fumbled it all as a person and as a streamer. I'll still go back and watch their Scott Pilgrim video, cause it's still one of my favorite videos of all time.
His okami videos were one of the biggest comfort series for me on youtube, hearing about how much of a creep he is was shocking
same here!! hes the reason okami is one of my favorite games now:(
Same here. I found out and fell in love with Okami because of his series
He introduced me to Undertale
It was The Cat Lady for me
Me too. It's so disgusting thinking that when I was a young girl I looked up to him when I could've been someone who could've exploited someone like me.
I think the craziest thing is that he managed to stay anonymous while these days everyone gets leaked
They found out his name, it was also said during Pewdiepies Christmas live stream, but that’s all that was found out
@@carby966 i think they also knew other details but never his face so his real identity was never leaked
@@iwilleatursoup3679it's not well known, but his identity was eventually leaked a year or two after the fallout by a former friend of his, Tolomeo, when he was drunk on stream.
They found out his name and one of two pictures of someone who might be him. It honestly seems like no one found much about him is because there was nothing to find - dude never left his room, never had a job or irl relationships or friends.
@@linasayshush That’s very true. that and it was a different time period, I feel like people today still would of been able to find more than they would have in 2013
I've been avoiding this video for a long while on purpose. I knew about Cry's situation even though I haven't watched him for a while, and I couldn't accept it. Cry was a staple in my pre-teen and teen years, a voice that comforted me. I would listen to his videos on readings and watch his horror games which a few in particular, I can't imagine watching anyone else and haven't watched since Cry's situation release.
But now hearing this.. is just disappointing. I'm 24 now. I still have favorited videos of animations of Cry and Pewdiepie on this account. To see that go into a man, that's inconsolable on a stream? It was like I watched him fall apart and it was on him. It was completely on him.
I don't know how to feel. I feel heartbroken for both the victims and the potential lost here. Pewdiepie is literally living his dream life in Japan now with his family, a child of his own. I don't know what Cry is doing but it's crazy how we meet people, grow relationships and then our paths dramatically change.
I hope the victims can seek and secure peace. I hope Cry can come to the understanding of his actions and act upon it to fix what he's broken, by at least preventing it in the future. That's all I can hope for. I would have loved to see Cry on the big platform, laughing and having such deep bonds that pull out these wonderful inside jokes for others to hear, but it completely got ruined by very preventable actions done by Cry. It's such a shame...
im still so saddened by this, Cry used to be one of my favorties one of the few people i used to actually watch full lets plays....but now i feel so empty. i was in a bad place back then and he helped me feel better... i felt something empty out of my soul at the time this all came out. like a glass of water being poured down the drain... it just still hurts.... that was the first time i felt so betrayed.