Have had my Claasic 98 a few weeks the Classic 99 was anounced the day after my 98 arrived. I can't imagine how loud the 99 would be. I definatly will be adding another 98! These are amazing.
I think you have the best listening room in my opinion imagine listening to a hifi sytem with all the relaxing beauty of your green enviroment it is very relaxing indeed...your ear and eye is very relaxing a perfect condition....and very healthy
Hola. I bought years ago a pair of Britannia 1 subwoofers from REL. Never looked back. They are the most natural sounding real subwoofers I ever heard and that included SVS, Velodynes and JL. They were the only front firing subwoofers from REL that I know off and where truly marvelous. For better in room response and to correct any dips or spikes in frequency respond I recommend placing the subs along the side walls facing your sitting position. Try it, you will be greatly rewarded with deeper bass and a smoother response. also find the -3db low frequency cut off of your main speaker and set the REL 10 hz higher for better integration (a couple of hz. higher or lower won’t hurt). Enjoy!
Hello. I always enjoy your audio reviews. So, which speakers do you prefer, the Qualio's or the Borresen's? Between those two pairs of speakers, If you had to keep just one pair, which one would it be?
I have a pair of Harbeth Compact 7es-3 in a 300 sq foot space. Using a Parasound Halo Integrated. I am really torn between the Classic 99 and the s510. I will eventually have a pair of either one I choose but will only start with (1). As someone that has had experience with both the Classic 99 and the S510 which way would you tend to lean? Ultimately I feel the Classic 99's look would really compliment the Harbeth's better. However sound is the ultimate test. Thanks for any info regarding the 2.
i get Goosebumps when i see the QUALIO Ultra !. and the 99 Subwoofer is an added beauty. hopefully it sounds great in real life. thanks for the review.
Can you expand your thought about the Classic 99 and Borresen x2 speakers? Was they too fast for this REL? I also wanted to know what is your opinion about direct comparison with REL S510.
I was going to ask the same question….I think though it may have to do with the lowest crossover point of the Classic 99 being 30 hz..if the crossover point went just a little lower it may blend better with speakers that go a little under 30hz(i have a Rel R528(lowest crossover setting is 30hz) that will not gel with my Cremona Ms ….that go below 30hz….. I get too much bass in the 30-40 hz range when using the sub..on the lowest volume…..just a thought….maybe the Classic 99 and X2 is doing a similar thing
I have a pair of Maggies .7 that are modded without the fuses. How would the REL Classic 99 go with these. In your opinion, could I get away with one or would I need two of them?
One advantage of a Subwoofer and standmount speaker is you csn optimise the best place in a room for the bass.. Conversely , you can't do that with a floorstander. You are stuck with the Bass Driver being below the tweeter, and sometimes depending on your room, that isn't the ideal location for it.
Are you saying some rooms may require to have the hight of the subwoofer at the same height of the speakers tweeter? Rel specifically design the feet of their subs to the millimeter for SQ, why then raise the subwoofer? Keep the tweeter at ear level and sub positioned on the floor where it blends.
@@mitchellburns92 Thats exactly right . (what REL are doing) Yet in a floorstanding or standmount speaker, you don't have that luxury.. The Bass driver is stuck with the tweeter in a cabinet . There is zero flexibility in their relationship to each other distance wise. .In my large standmounts, the woofer is some 600mm or so off the ground which is normal.That can't be changed....Completely different setup to a standalone subwoofer.
High level connection - it uses the amplifiers binding posts to connect to the rel, this doesn’t draw any of your amp’s power. Can also connect the high level to your speakers binding posts which sends that signal to the rel where it’s stepped down.
@@tothemax324 same thing with what’s happening when it’s connected directly to your power amp or integrated amp. That high voltage signal is stepped down through a passive resistance ladder matrix (input filter blocks), then that voltage signal once stepped down is then sent to the rels amplifier and then out the driver. Sorry should have made that more clear in my previous comment. If coming off the speakers I’d still ground the high level connection to the amplifier.
The only thing REL has going for it is their destiny just allows both LFE and High level inputs connected simultaneously, with volume controls for both. That allows one sub to be used for 2.1ch listening as well of HT AVR. I wish other manufacturers would challenge REL in that domain.
Can this subwoofer be paired with a pair of Klipsch AL5's driven by a PrimaLuna EVO 300 integrated tube amplifier? I ask because I am unsure if there's enough power being sent to the speakers to activate the subwoofer. It takes very little turn of the volume knob to fill the room with sound given how efficient the speakers are. Any thoughts?
I’m running 2 SVS subs with my LaScalas. When I’m using one of my amps without an adjustable RCA output I use the high level speaker inputs. I have had success running them that way. May need to turn up the sub volume a bit. With my 2 - 12” subs I’m at about 60% volume on the subs.
Rel strata 3 was the best sub that I have had until now , For my taste beter than my actual t5x , maybe what slower , but more expansive and natural bass , I think due to cabinet size / ratio , and mosfet amp
@@seano218 What are you even talking about? How does orientation of the driver affect the sound? What is the difference between detail, definition, and speed?
@YuengsNwings have you tried both? I have and that's my experience being on a second floor with different drivers. The t5x was muddy, slow and dull. The t7x was better in every aspect.
thank you . great review. i once in a while consider adding a Subwoofer. but now i'm more convinced that i need one. BTW. i'm PLEASANTLY Surprised to see that you have the QUALIO-IQ . i'm in love with those speakers. will you please review them in the near future ??. would love to hear your thoughts.. many thanks in advance.
none of them, build your own subs with high quality drivers (Scan Speak, Seas) and you can build 4x 60L Subs exactly for your needs for the price of a small REL
Lots of talk and nothing of substance. No real comparison to the T9/x and the S/510 which are the 2 other REL products a prospective buyer would be cross-shopping. Thumbs down for this.
Keep in my folks, this is a downward firing only sub. If you have a concrete floor, you'll be fine. If you are on a sub floor or second story, it will sound boring and "one note".
Hi 👋.. ok, how could this wooden cube be a great looking sub? It's surely a big super sounding element but style and innovation in design is another thing in my pov. Just another well made sub cube here..
for 2k€ you can build 4x Subwoofer with 60 L Cabinets with high quality scanspeak chassis who destroy this REL in every category. Totally overpriced for what it is. The musicality & punch comes firstly how you set it up via DSP, not if their is a REL or SVS logo on the front - its not so difficult to build a sub. And its always better to use at least 2x Subs, better 4x (Array solution) and than your in a Pricecategory where the REL realy costs you way too much.
Have had my Claasic 98 a few weeks the Classic 99 was anounced the day after my 98 arrived.
I can't imagine how loud the 99 would be. I definatly will be adding another 98!
These are amazing.
Had my 98 for the best part of a year. I absolutely love it!
My 99 is en route now. I may just send back and get a second 98. I thought I'd try it as I don't know that I have room for a second 98.
I think you have the best listening room in my opinion imagine listening to a hifi sytem with all the relaxing beauty of your green enviroment it is very relaxing indeed...your ear and eye is very relaxing a perfect condition....and very healthy
I like the way the subwoofer blends in with the furniture.
but does it sound better than a front firing S510
Hola. I bought years ago a pair of Britannia 1 subwoofers from REL. Never looked back. They are the most natural sounding real subwoofers I ever heard and that included SVS, Velodynes and JL. They were the only front firing subwoofers from REL that I know off and where truly marvelous. For better in room response and to correct any dips or spikes in frequency respond I recommend placing the subs along the side walls facing your sitting position. Try it, you will be greatly rewarded with deeper bass and a smoother response. also find the -3db low frequency cut off of your main speaker and set the REL 10 hz higher for better integration (a couple of hz. higher or lower won’t hurt). Enjoy!
I'm finding it odd that there are no other third party reviews of the Classic 99 to be found anywhere on the internet....
Hello. I always enjoy your audio reviews. So, which speakers do you prefer, the Qualio's or the Borresen's? Between those two pairs of speakers, If you had to keep just one pair, which one would it be?
I have a pair of Harbeth Compact 7es-3 in a 300 sq foot space. Using a Parasound Halo Integrated. I am really torn between the Classic 99 and the s510. I will eventually have a pair of either one I choose but will only start with (1). As someone that has had experience with both the Classic 99 and the S510 which way would you tend to lean? Ultimately I feel the Classic 99's look would really compliment the Harbeth's better. However sound is the ultimate test. Thanks for any info regarding the 2.
i get Goosebumps when i see the QUALIO Ultra !. and the 99 Subwoofer is an added beauty. hopefully it sounds great in real life.
thanks for the review.
Thank You for this review. As I understood Borresen X2 don't need subwoofer?
Rel is my favorite subwoofer company I own duel Rel T7x for two channels music and a duel Rel HT 1510 for my home theater.
Thanks!
What type of floor are you on? Basement? Crawl space? Concrete? Wood suspended floor?
Can you expand your thought about the Classic 99 and Borresen x2 speakers? Was they too fast for this REL? I also wanted to know what is your opinion about direct comparison with REL S510.
510 is was better
I was going to ask the same question….I think though it may have to do with the lowest crossover point of the Classic 99 being 30 hz..if the crossover point went just a little lower it may blend better with speakers that go a little under 30hz(i have a Rel R528(lowest crossover setting is 30hz) that will not gel with my Cremona Ms ….that go below 30hz….. I get too much bass in the 30-40 hz range when using the sub..on the lowest volume…..just a thought….maybe the Classic 99 and X2 is doing a similar thing
What is the voltage requirement for the Classic 99s? Voltage into the low level inputs i mean.
I have a carpeted concrete floor…will a downward facing sub work?
Yes, it will be perfect.
Certainly a very classy-looking piece of furniture besides sounding great, but very voluminous.
With B&W 805S ?
So, this is the new Storm III?
I have a pair of Maggies .7 that are modded without the fuses. How would the REL Classic 99 go with these. In your opinion, could I get away with one or would I need two of them?
This sub is for older, less clear speakers. For your speakers you need a S510 to match the speed and clarity of your Maggie’s
One advantage of a Subwoofer and standmount speaker is you csn optimise the best place in a room for the bass..
Conversely , you can't do that with a floorstander. You are stuck with the Bass Driver being below the tweeter, and sometimes depending on your room, that isn't the ideal location for it.
Are you saying some rooms may require to have the hight of the subwoofer at the same height of the speakers tweeter? Rel specifically design the feet of their subs to the millimeter for SQ, why then raise the subwoofer? Keep the tweeter at ear level and sub positioned on the floor where it blends.
@@mitchellburns92 Thats exactly right . (what REL are doing) Yet in a floorstanding or standmount speaker, you don't have that luxury.. The Bass driver is stuck with the tweeter in a cabinet . There is zero flexibility in their relationship to each other distance wise. .In my large standmounts, the woofer is some 600mm or so off the ground which is normal.That can't be changed....Completely different setup to a standalone subwoofer.
How do you connect a subwoofer without any components with sub out or anything?
High level connection - it uses the amplifiers binding posts to connect to the rel, this doesn’t draw any of your amp’s power. Can also connect the high level to your speakers binding posts which sends that signal to the rel where it’s stepped down.
@@mitchellburns92 Hi, what do you mean by 'stepped down' as I have 2 Rels connected from speaker BP's, thanks
@@tothemax324 same thing with what’s happening when it’s connected directly to your power amp or integrated amp. That high voltage signal is stepped down through a passive resistance ladder matrix (input filter blocks), then that voltage signal once stepped down is then sent to the rels amplifier and then out the driver. Sorry should have made that more clear in my previous comment. If coming off the speakers I’d still ground the high level connection to the amplifier.
The only thing REL has going for it is their destiny just allows both LFE and High level inputs connected simultaneously, with volume controls for both. That allows one sub to be used for 2.1ch listening as well of HT AVR. I wish other manufacturers would challenge REL in that domain.
Can this subwoofer be paired with a pair of Klipsch AL5's driven by a PrimaLuna EVO 300 integrated tube amplifier? I ask because I am unsure if there's enough power being sent to the speakers to activate the subwoofer. It takes very little turn of the volume knob to fill the room with sound given how efficient the speakers are. Any thoughts?
I’m running 2 SVS subs with my LaScalas. When I’m using one of my amps without an adjustable RCA output I use the high level speaker inputs. I have had success running them that way. May need to turn up the sub volume a bit. With my 2 - 12” subs I’m at about 60% volume on the subs.
With Cornwalls?
With La Scala's?
Rel strata 3 was the best sub that I have had until now ,
For my taste beter than my actual t5x , maybe what slower , but more expansive and natural bass ,
I think due to cabinet size / ratio , and mosfet amp
99 it better than Strata?
Also it's a downward firing only sub which loses detail, definition and speed which you will get with a front firing sub.
@@MrBazsi888 never heard the 99 , i would love tough .
@@seano218 What are you even talking about? How does orientation of the driver affect the sound? What is the difference between detail, definition, and speed?
@YuengsNwings have you tried both? I have and that's my experience being on a second floor with different drivers. The t5x was muddy, slow and dull. The t7x was better in every aspect.
I’d put a pair of these with the Klipsch La Scala AL5s
I have two t5xs they make my klipsch 600ms. Sound fantastic.
What kinda cable is suitable for these kinds of subwoofers. Or just for all kinds of;) is there a affordable option or is price not important
@@DocDee-xt2gq I use a $15 cable for subs. Or the included high level cable it comes with.
Do you think running 1 it was better in the middle , but running 2 maybe would have been better in the corners .
what a lovely cat!
thank you . great review. i once in a while consider adding a Subwoofer. but now i'm more convinced that i need one.
BTW. i'm PLEASANTLY Surprised to see that you have the QUALIO-IQ . i'm in love with those speakers. will you please review them in the near future ??. would love to hear your thoughts.. many thanks in advance.
Try the JL Audio Phantom.
REL STUDIO III - it was the best
Classic 99 Vs S510?
Rel haven’t yet done a direct comparison on this so I’d say for SQ go for s510 but surely the S line is due now for a refresh very soon.
none of them, build your own subs with high quality drivers (Scan Speak, Seas) and you can build 4x 60L Subs exactly for your needs for the price of a small REL
@@vtkz Build it with what bench, tools, wood, what is this?
@@hithighs😂
Thank you 😎
Thanks
What a monster.
How do you not know how bass frequencies work? The orientation of the driver has no effect on the sound.
I use an Rel S3 sho with great results!!!
Lots of talk and nothing of substance. No real comparison to the T9/x and the S/510 which are the 2 other REL products a prospective buyer would be cross-shopping. Thumbs down for this.
Keep in my folks, this is a downward firing only sub. If you have a concrete floor, you'll be fine. If you are on a sub floor or second story, it will sound boring and "one note".
not.
@@TrueAudio care to expand?
@@seano218 sure, not true.
Hi 👋.. ok, how could this wooden cube be a great looking sub? It's surely a big super sounding element but style and innovation in design is another thing in my pov. Just another well made sub cube here..
for 2k€ you can build 4x Subwoofer with 60 L Cabinets with high quality scanspeak chassis who destroy this REL in every category. Totally overpriced for what it is. The musicality & punch comes firstly how you set it up via DSP, not if their is a REL or SVS logo on the front - its not so difficult to build a sub. And its always better to use at least 2x Subs, better 4x (Array solution) and than your in a Pricecategory where the REL realy costs you way too much.
put 60kg of weights on top of them. than listen😊
*then
@@TrueAudio than it will be sub frequencies. without weights its a distortioning vibrations only
@@huymammin5915
i also believe in weights on top of subs👍🏼