2019 Mustang GT Engine Tick Problems | Should You AVOID Gen 3 Coyote?
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- In this video we will be discussing the 2019 Mustang GT engine tick issues. The engine tick has been apparent in 2018-2020 Mustang GT with Gen 3 coyote engine. Most people think it could lead to engine failures on your Mustang and isn't the most pleasant engine sound on your 2018-2020 Mustang GT.
Mustang Engine tick is not similar to mustang engine knocking. Engine knock would be considered a major failure for your Mustang. The engine tick has been present in Gen 3 coyote engines found in 2018-2020 Mustang GT 5.0 engines.
I want to discuss the overview and history of the engine tick, possible solutions, and what Ford thinks of the engine tick.
I hope this video keeps you well informed whether you already own a 2018-2020 Mustang GT with potential engine tick or in the market to buy a used 2018-2020 Mustang GT with 5.0 and want to make sure your potential car does not have the infamous coyote engine tick.
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FORD is overpushing that engine at the cost of reliability. That engine produces the same HP as my 2017 Corvette C7 with a 6.2 litre engine.
Its your high pressure fuel pump for the DI system... Gen 3 coyote engines(18+) have Dual Injection, port and direct, if you hear a prominent tick that increases with rpm your coyote is running DI, if you dont then its fueling from the ports. "tick" is present on my 2020 f150 5.0 @
Yes I agree with you. I’ve heard noises similar to tick in other cars too running dual injection. Most owners I have talked to with 5.0 haven’t had any problems due to engine “ticking”
If it was direct injection it would be there when he bought the car but nice try
My 18 has ticked for over 2 years off and on, no engine issues. The youtubers made me worry more so than the car it self.... smh.
Yeah exactly! UA-cam and forums would have you believe that if you hear the tick consider your engine done. I’m glad it’s been working out fine for you
How many miles you at?
Hands down - the most comprehensive explanation on the tick. Thanks bro!
Thanks man!hopefully mine doesn’t come back
I run an 18 that HAD a tick… stopped using watery 5w-20 oil and put in LiquidMoly 15w-40 and problem solved.
Yes I have heard the liquid Moly really helps! I haven't had the tick since then. i just get the it right after an oil change but goes away within 200 miles or so.
The tick is most likely oil flashing due to higher pressures experienced in the bearings. It is even more noticeable now that the Gen 3 has increased compression ratio to 12:1. This is approaching diesel territory (15:1). The same engine tick is noticed in all Big-3 diesel engine trucks, Cummins, Powerstroke, and Duramax engines. It doesn't seem to affect the engine operation, as a I own a 2018 Mustang GT with 22,000 miles now. No issues.
I do add a bottle of Ceratec every other oil change, and it does make a noticeable difference in the ticking sound level. However, it decreases the oil flashing because adding a solid lubricant will change that property of the oil.
Condor1970 You are correct as most of it has to do with higher compression ratio on Gen 3 coyotes. I’m glad you were able to find success with ceratec. I intend to do that too if I get the tick back. But overall since it doesn’t affect the engine operation like you said. I think this whole issue is blown a bit out of proportion
No offense but this makes no sense. Firstly what is oil flashing? I’ve never heard of it and would like to know if it’s a real thing or something made up. Secondly the theory about compression makes no sense. Compression ratio doesn’t relate to bottom end noises. A modern Diesel engine as you mentioned has average 500psi sometimes a little bit higher when their brand new. A 3rd gen coyote has 250psi. That’s half, and not to mention small block Chevys, fords, mopar engines run 12:1 all the time aftermarket and don’t make funny ticking noises. The diesels make a ticking that totally different that comes from the sound of its combustion, and injection processes. I sold my 2018 s550 because it sounded like a pull chain garage door when it was cold, ford refused to acknowledge the issue and said it was normal. I believe the engine has a number of design flaws, but it is an overall good engine. I wouldn’t be discouraged. Just use it, beat the hell out of it. If it lasts it lasts.
@@Red5oh ceratek will void warranty right
My 18 has the tick, no issues with it so far 👌🏼 great video bro 👍🏼
Adrians550 Yeah it seems like 2018 were affected more. I’m sure you’ll be fine. Just mod away! Haha
@UC4L-7TePVkZQimCip0nF2gA lol 20k miles no issues 💪🏼
That’s crazy my 2022GT PP1 @5k miles the first oil change at the dealer directly after the oil change! Pissed me off because the mechanics 5of them were looking at my JLT air filter they also took my car off the lot after the oil change took them 20-30mins to get back! I feel they abused my car!
Yeah after an oil change there’s no reason to drive the car. I wait at my dealership and after the oil change I see them bring the car straight from bay to service lot. I would bring it up to the dealer or at least make a note of it for next oil change
Most likely the direct injection, but also check the spark plug torque as well. My 2000 GT developed a tick that got worse over a couple of months and then a plug blew out. Fixing the hole and replacing the plug cured the noise.
Yeah I think it's due to DI like you said. Seems to be common on these 5.0s. How do you like the 2v?
@@Red5oh the two valve is simply a reliable, torquey, and great sounding V8. You’re not going to beat many modern cars with this engine. The experience is what it’s all about. The American V8 muscle car dream. It’s what I could afford, and I don’t regret it. If you’re fortunate enough to be able to afford a new Mustang, do it. I will buy one some day when I’m promoted at Honda, But I am in love with my old 2 valve and will keep her forever. Long after I have a new stang to drive. I’ll be putting back the convertible top and blasting down the highway in that great American beauty 50 years from now. If you love making noise, burning rubber in first and second, cruising, and fun street races all for a few grand, this car and this engine is for you. Be prepared to be good with a wrench though. These cars need love to nurse them back to good health.
@@tylerjones3077 that’s good to hear you love the 2V. I used to have a 2006 GT with 3v and honestly I love the sound of a 4.6 compared to 5.0. It just sounded more of a muscle car deep and rumbly! That thing was reliable I sold it around 155k with no issues, 4.6 is bulletproof. I hope you get to get a new 5.0 someday too, they are incredible machines but 4.6 is a lot of fun too. The whole V8 experience is more important than winning stop light races. Enjoy your car sir!
Love the color combo. I've got the magnetic metallic plus blk accent pack tenspeed. Love it! Besides the tick. I've never drove a car like it. At times I can get the tires to spin even at 60mph on dry asphalt at times. Love it!
Black accent package is a must!! It really contrasts well. Love the magnetic metallic color too. I think Ford did an amazing job with this car, it's really fast, but also comfortable if you want to just daily drive it and not mess around
This has nothing to do with information on the tick why do you allot of you feel the need to share information about yourself when no one asked this is about engineer tick we all have stangs no need for your details help figure out the issue
Those 5.0 badges get me every time!! Great video again - keep going! Al from 2MenInAMotor
2 Men In A Motor Thank you I appreciate your support! Have to say I gotta love cheap horsepower in the US lol
Good informative video bro...keep pushing💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Drethehardway Thanks man! Engine tick isn’t fun but I think it’s blow out of proportion so wanted to inform people better. Hope she runs fine
Arc plasma coated cylinders in aluminum blocks are having a massive breakdown rate, Ford where you walk to mail your car payment
Oh no that doesn’t sound good! Hopefully it’s not too bad on mine
I like the spider man reference. The bbq tick can apparently be solved with a reprogramming at dealership from what i read from a blog thread. Im looking into this now. Also oil evaporation can be solved also with a free dealer solution. The engine doesnt burn oil looses it during downshift compression. New oil stick and programming and the problem is fixed. Check your oil as it shouldnt take more than 2 liters per 12000km. If so then oil stick and programme is required as a free dealer solution. Check my video as i talk about it
Johny's car care & advice Yeah exactly I wouldn’t be worried for the engine tick at least for now as dealers and ford seem to have a hang of it plus we have warranty
There is a video from a guy in Toronto, Canada who also winter drives his GT. If I recall correctly, he used Pennzoil Synthetic with an additive and claims it went away.
IQ WebServe yeah that’s what I’ve heard too that using additives or thicker oil usually takes care of it. Mine went away but if it comes back I’ll be sure to give it a shot
My 2020 mustang GT has the freaking annoying tick or whatever you want to call it. It sounds like s***. My car has 10,000 miles on it. I never heard any sounds ticking out of my engine until right after my first oil change. can't hear it from inside the car. Unless the windows are down and you're up close to a building. The outside the car you can hear it so freaking well. I'ma just drive it like a stole it like it's meant to be driven untill the warranty runs out. Than I'ma slow it down a knotch. Normal or not. The tick is FN rediculous! Let's just say we go and try to sell this car. And then everybody that listens to it run is going to hear this clicking clattering b******* ticking sound. Would you buy a car that sounds like that? Hell no.
Yea I got the engine tick after m first oil change and second one too! For me luckily, the tick stopped after few hundred miles. Looking over forums and talking to people who ahve gen 3 coyote with more miles, theirs seem to be working fine despite the tick as Ford also says it's normal. We have the warranty so not too worried like you said, but someone who isn't in Mustang market that you try to sell the car could definitely think something is up with the car!
The tic gotta be from the oil and pressure im assuming. My car has the tic but its random. Car drives fine. I had the tic after my first oil change im at 40k miles and my car runs fine
I have the bbq/typewriter tick when the engine is cold but it is not there when the engine has been running for some time. I have just over 4,000 miles on a 2019. I bought it used so I can't tell if the original oil has been changed or not.
Matt Jones I would definitely change the oil to be safe. Good rule is to always change oil when you buy used car so you have a baseline. Small price to pay for “engine insurance” . Yeah tick has been shown to be more apparent when engine is cold. I’d see if anything changes after oil change. You could always have dealership look at it even though they will tell it’s normal. It’s good to have it documented in case issues arise later. Hope she treats you fine!
Your left muffler tip is looking a little limp. Might want to stroke it a bit to get it up lol
The Dude Yes it is lol. I got it installed right before lockdown so haven’t had a chance to go back and get it fixed. Shops are starting to open up here
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Corsa extreme is definitely music to my ears
My 2016 GT had a tick it was horrible, dealer told me it was normal although it was not there when it was new.....several dealers told me its normal. I sold that piece of sh!t.
Schyl Perry yeah dealers have been saying it’s normal especially after ford released their statement on it. I have yet to hear about any actual issues because of the tick. Did you start having problems?
Great Video my friend
Tlites World Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it
You sure it’s not the new fuel system they are using for the gen 3 5.0? Some high pressure direct injection cars have a “tick to them”. It’s just the way the fuel system works. And ford is using dual high pressure direct injection on the gen 3 coyote.
It’s a combination of that and using a high compression engine for gen 3. Like you said they naturally have tick to them. But at first people just blew it out of proportion and thought it was rodknock lol
Midlife crisis? Common sense is gone, get it.
Common Sense? Ford does one thing well: engineering garbage, don't get it.
Older Fords? At one point they gave fuck about quality and reliability, but that was a long time ago.
Your welcome
J3GJ I would still consider quality and reliability to be there. Go look at any fords from like 2000s and you’ll see quality has improved with interior and body panels etc. As far as reliability, mustang have been really reliable for most people even when they track it or take it strip
Red5oh really reliable like coyote gen 3 "reliable" or so many lawsuits over reliability they stopped making most their cars kind of reliable? Or back in the day reliable? Or heavy modified and is now reliable? Define what you describe as reliable. Compared to itself sure, compared to other American engineered newer vehicles, maybe sure but debatable, as american standards get lower the price gets higher because 🇺🇸
J3GJ big 3 manufacturers seem to have reliable trucks and their muscle/pony cars. American manufactures have never all that great making small/midsize sedan. I know plenty mustang owners that go over 150k plus even 200k miles like nothing. Sure it may not be like an accord or Camry and goes to 300k mile but an average Camry or accord may never see above 2k rpm, while mustangs will see redline in daily basis. What do you drive that is so reliable to you?
Red5oh i walk, because I own a new mustang
Do you hear timing chain rattle when engine is cold and you let off the gas? My f150 does this brand new and they said that they all do it wich i doubt
Yeah I haven’t experienced that issue. I know some mustangs have rattle sound around 2000 rpm but haven’t personally experienced. Did they not want to dig further?
My 2020 mustang has a rattle after letting off the gas or when accelerating from a light or a speed bump
@@armandoreyna7312 same as my f150
I have a question not about the tik but about warranty , does adding an aftermarket exhaust and headers affect warranty ?
Technically they have to prove the part caused it and it usually depends on the dealer. If you do headers and engine had issues they can void it for that specific part in this case engine. But if you install headers and have issues with your AC they can’t deny that. Despite all that some dealers are ok with minor mods
Thank you !
let's see did ford fix the death wobble on their pickups-NO did ford fix the 10 speed auto tranny-NO my experience with ford is when there is problem under warranty they say that's normal so now i am a GM costumer
Yeah I can see why. I’m just hoping 10 speed and coyote tick doesn’t end up being like Ford dct where they kept denying until years after recalled it
No tick on my 2019.
That’s great man! You’ve got any mods?
Red5oh it’s tastefully modified. Roush phase 2 supercharger, CDC light bar, and Shelby CS-5 wheels with Nittos. Perfect setup.
I wouldn't be worried about the tick as much I would the ugly front bumper, looks like a hydrafoil and it's fixing to take to water
Clint Jones I wish we got Mach 1 bumper. It looks much better on refresh models
@@Red5oh yea even the 15-17 bumper was simple and low, that mach 1 bumper is perfect
I agree with you. It took me time getting used to 18+ bumper. Much preferred the clean lines of 15-17. But it does look better in person than pictures do it justice
Thx for the info bro..
The Car Mob Thanks! Hoping your car is tick free!
@@Red5oh 12,000 miles strong 2,000 of them with the stage 2 Whipple & no tick . we got lucky with our coyote.
Pretty sure it’s the injectors they are just noisey … my stethoscope showed me that it was found in the injectors
Yeah haven't heard of owners experiencing actual issues due to tick, but I guess the engine is still somewhat "new"
Whether we're hurting ourselves or not what happens when your warranty runs out and then you try to sell the car? If I heard the sound that my car makes right now my 2020 mustang GT clicking clattering and I was looking to buy it. And there's no warranty. Are you kidding me I'm not going to buy that car. If my car made the noises that it does now when I bought it I wouldn't have got it. Ford needs to fix this or they're going to owe us some money. This is going to reduce the value of our cars undoubtedly.
I think long run we should be fun as most people seem to have the tick but are boosted or relatively high miles without any issues. I would like Ford to look deeper into it just to make sure we aren't screwed after the warranty. I don't want Mustang to go through what Focus had to go with the DCT, Ford denied it was an issue until few years after they admitted to it .
That’s what Carvana is for...prices are great.
Love your video! Thanks!
I’m glad you liked it! Engine tick was definitely annoying
@@Red5oh My 2019 has 7500 miles now. I lost sleep over the sound the GDI made and thankfully it was not the BBQ tick!
Yeah hopefully it stays that way man! What are your plans for the car?
@@Red5oh I watched your video on the Carvana offer! I bought mine for $37,000 and have $30,500 left in loan. Carvana is offering $30,100. I love the car, but at the same time worried if something will happen after the powertrain warranty is over. Maybe I should get the extended warranty and have peace of mind. Do you know how much it would cost? I follow Scotty and he doesn’t recommend other muscle cars! Very hard to sell the stang bro.
@@kimdavis5631 yeah not gonna lie the offer is tempting and slight worry of powertain issues tempt me to. I’d get extended warranty. Check Flood Ford they sell them at cost so probably around $1500 for 7 years. Many people vouch for them at Mustang6g forums
Why are your exhaust tips uneven
I have a 19 Shelby gt-h and my Shelby tips are level🤷♂️ but my steering wheel is shaking a little and my shift selector for the 10R80 lights went out only 360 miles on the car lights went out at about 250 wheel started shaking at about 300
Exhaust was installed right before lockdown so I’ve kinda let it be until I can get to the shop. That sounds awful lot off issues for a brand new car man. Is the warranty taking care of you?
It is an RC F exhaust 😂
Yep have that ticking sound !!!!
KoHoneS Yup it’s just so annoying to have it! Have you had your dealership check yet?
Red5oh yes they claim it’s coming from a torque converter but they don’t have the part - ordered it should be here in 2 weeks
KoHoneS Yeah that’s a first hearing it torque converter. I hope it’s fixed soon so you can enjoy your car!!
Red5oh thanks appreciate it - new video up soon!!!
dallastxracing Ours isn’t anywhere close to that so we should be fine haha
Is this tick like ridiculously loud or just somewhat noticeable?
Only somewhat noticeable. I could hear it on cold start but nothing where your passenger will think something is wrong with the car
You didn’t explain anything
I have a 2012 f150 that has it
No power loss no codes
I’ve heard bad phaser, lash adjuster, warp piston and bad connecting rod bearing
Are all things they say it could be.
You didn’t mention one of these
The coyotes have done this since they were first made. My 2014 GT had it and now my 2020 GT has it also.
Yeah that’s what I’ve heard. Gen 3 is a bit more apparent so people are complaining
LMR.com Stock 2018 10spd Mustang GT Wheel Horsepower Dyno Results=
460HP at Crank
415 Horsepower
397 Torque to the wheels.
Camaro SS 6.2 has ONLY 455 horsepower at crank 409hp+439ft TQ at the wheels.
Think about it.
The Ford has the smallest MOST powerful per cubic inch N/A V8. If they could get the body weight of the car down noone else would stand a chance.
Dodges closer sized Hemi 5.7 liter has almost 100 hp less at 375hp at crank. The Scatpack has the 6.4L with 475hp at the crank.
Chevy doesn't have an engine near the same cubic inch/liter size that comes within a mile either. Why's dodge and chevys engines so much weaker per cubic inch or liter. Prove me wrong. There's no other N/A American V8 that comes close. None. Fords 5.0 is the most UNDERATED engine America has BAR NONE!
And don't even get me started on the 10 speed tranny. Ford is at the top of the TOTEM POLE per cubic inch, FOR MUSCLE CARS FOLKS.
Definitely agree with you! the 5.0 is a monster of an engine and relatively new in terms of technology. 5.0 is DOHC vs Pushrod of Camaro and Challengers. Ford has been up with their game and putting money into constantly improving the platform. Paired with 10 speed, it's game over!
Do you suggest gen 3 coyote crate engine for a project car?
Gen 2 is definitely a lot more of a tried and true setup since it's been out since 2015. Though price difference isn't much between crate options so either could work depending on how crazy you want to go with the build
Thank you
Have a 15 mustang GT performance package 63k and no tick at all
#15BLACKMAMBA
Gen 2 doesn’t haven’t the tick as pronounced compared to gen 3 coyote. How do you like yours?