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Cops Arrest Man Who Targeted Pog & Jonas + Girmay’s Silly Mistake - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage 15

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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
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    00:00 The greatest rivalry of all time…
    04:21 Jonas turns the screw on Remco
    06:11 The current GC standings
    06:50 Roglič’s team turns up… a little too late
    07:24 Temperature sensors
    08:55 The covid saga continues
    09:46 Biniam Girmay made a silly mistake today…
    11:03 Cops arrest man who targeted Pogačar and Jonas in the mountains
    12:09 Pogačar gets shoe thrown under his wheel
    13:32 The HARDEST man in the peloton
    15:02 Elisa Longo Borghini wins the women’s Giro
    17:21 Stage 16 preview - more sprinting is coming
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 235

  • @ChrisHallRides
    @ChrisHallRides Місяць тому +263

    Awesome to have been part of this. Thanks so much for having me and hopefully people enjoyed my commentary ❤

    • @rabihhawwa1970
      @rabihhawwa1970 Місяць тому +7

      I'm new to watching bicycle racing, loved your insights! Thank you.

    • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
      @SamuelBlackMetalRider Місяць тому +3

      Loved your inputs mate, you the man 👊🏼

    • @Hribster
      @Hribster Місяць тому +7

      We do! Keep on the good work!

    • @labodimiklos
      @labodimiklos Місяць тому +7

      Really enjoyed having you on the show! If you can, please force yourself back! Cheers!

    • @kevinlyon9501
      @kevinlyon9501 Місяць тому +3

      Appreciate your knowledge of the sport and the riders👏

  • @mjock392
    @mjock392 Місяць тому +70

    Throwing chips is a mild annoyance compared to the GUY THAT BROUGHT A ROAD FLARE AND WAVED IT IN TADEJ AND JONAS FACE!
    Imagine going 99% of your HR max and you inhale fumes and smoke from the flare?!? That's a true crime! Ban flares everywhere in sport!

    • @MrEMann
      @MrEMann Місяць тому +5

      This! 👆

  • @rubrshrk
    @rubrshrk Місяць тому +20

    "Sick victorian child!" Hilarious! No wonder everyone is hammering on Jimmy- he wears Crocs!

  • @ArdGeal
    @ArdGeal Місяць тому +106

    Am I the only one who saw a spectator in the final few kilometers get annoyed with and kick one of the "running fools" chasing Pogacar? He about dropped him in front of the following car!!!

    • @cb6866
      @cb6866 Місяць тому +9

      Orange longsleeve shirt. yep.

    • @AvaValesToledano
      @AvaValesToledano Місяць тому +15

      Replayed twice, that was hilarious

    • @MrEMann
      @MrEMann Місяць тому +9

      I saw that and laughed my ass off. Had to replay it a few times! 😂

    • @747driver3
      @747driver3 Місяць тому +5

      Saw it!

    • @kczcb4697
      @kczcb4697 Місяць тому +4

      Saw it as well. Seems like the escort motorcycles were closer in past years. Of course it’s tough to get closer without providing a lead in or accident.

  • @Kyle-xk4ke
    @Kyle-xk4ke Місяць тому +46

    Chip chip chipping away 😂

  • @edreilly6674
    @edreilly6674 Місяць тому +25

    Chris has been great! This is an utterly enjoyable and informative series! Great job!

  • @user-uh6lm5wv6n
    @user-uh6lm5wv6n Місяць тому +3

    There have been some big rivalries in cycling gistory. The biggest probably Bartali v Coppi. But Armstrong, Ullrich, Pantani, Lemond, Hinault etc these are also iconic. Definiteoy these 2 guys are adding alot of thrill to the TDF now

  • @TheBassallyear100
    @TheBassallyear100 Місяць тому +12

    Teams and Training are uber important when the margins between Pogi and Vingo are so razor thin. TDF 2025 edition is going to be epic. If Pogi does attempt the GT slam, assuming he closes out the TDF, it should set up to potentially be the greatest ever edition of the Vuelta.

  • @nezagraj3918
    @nezagraj3918 Місяць тому +10

    Jonas definitely was not attacking Remco but Tadej, since in one of the interviews he said that he hopes Pogi cracks...oh my that will be interesting until the very end...today was Pogi masterpiece

    • @Ok_Rouleur
      @Ok_Rouleur Місяць тому +1

      Sometimes it feels like I didn’t watch the same stages and interviews as Cade media, but I still enjoy very much their podcast.

  • @_NoName...
    @_NoName... Місяць тому +76

    The so called Vingegaard's _chipping away, chipping away, chipping away_ analysis from Jimmy is not aging well 😂😂

    • @georgemccombe8471
      @georgemccombe8471 Місяць тому +13

      He’s borderline unwatchable when he talks about Jonas, so so so biased

    • @_NoName...
      @_NoName... Місяць тому +12

      @@georgemccombe8471 That is a bit too harsh for just a simple prediction about Vingegaard's strategy. It is nicer to take it as a funny moment than personal. Chill 🙏🏼

    • @justinemarkdajay7485
      @justinemarkdajay7485 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@georgemccombe8471you can't be a fan if you are not biased to a degree. 😅

    • @TBat0431
      @TBat0431 Місяць тому

      😂👏🚿​@@georgemccombe8471

    • @Cycle.every.day.
      @Cycle.every.day. Місяць тому +2

      Wasn't that a Red Hot Chilli Peppers song.

  • @nickbaumcycling
    @nickbaumcycling Місяць тому

    HAHAHAH nick the mechanic bit got me in stitches

  • @eduardoschneider2010
    @eduardoschneider2010 Місяць тому +2

    Amazing commentaries on the tour. I love your style guys. Keep it up 👍🏽 😊🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

  • @polishaztec
    @polishaztec Місяць тому

    I don't have time to follow the Tour live, so I am always looking forward to the new episode! Even on a rest day 😄

  • @maxlloyd3740
    @maxlloyd3740 Місяць тому +1

    Ahh,
    Will miss Chris!
    Great knowledge and insights.
    Good stye points as well today guys with Chris's shirt/jacket and cap and also Jimmi with the cool shirt/jacket!
    👍

  • @TBat0431
    @TBat0431 Місяць тому +15

    Jimmi watched TDF once and became the analyst for the entire tour, remember chipping away 😂😂😂😂

    • @oscardot
      @oscardot Місяць тому

      I remember last year he was saying racing was boring and he would never watch it. Now he is talking as if he has any idea about it. Yapping nonsense.

  • @swites
    @swites Місяць тому +8

    The scariest thing for me about Jonas is that after his bad crash 12 weeks ago, the guy isn't at 100%( just not enough time to fully recover even for Jonas), and is still the 2nd best GC rider in the world considering! I have no doubt he'll win another few tdf's in future.

    • @peterbaker6269
      @peterbaker6269 Місяць тому +1

      He lied about injury.

    • @kdb991
      @kdb991 Місяць тому

      I think they lied also

  • @alm0st-man991
    @alm0st-man991 Місяць тому +5

    bini lost his cooland did wrong because matthews was trying to wipe out points deliberately..Its a part of the bounty treatment matthews was protecting jasper's position although on different teams

  • @oheso
    @oheso Місяць тому

    Cheers for the Giro update. Congratulations, Borghini!

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff Місяць тому +5

    05:36 I’m glad Emily said it and not me 🤭

  • @KreshoMTB
    @KreshoMTB Місяць тому +1

    Crocs sports mode 😂😂😂

  • @realclaushelmer
    @realclaushelmer Місяць тому +2

    I really appreciate you guys doing this show. Thanks guys. Well produced, awesome guests. !

  • @andrewfoster3193
    @andrewfoster3193 Місяць тому +3

    A "Pog Attack" that's the new saying Jimmy thanks all for the show

  • @Bodkin_Ye_Pointy
    @Bodkin_Ye_Pointy 26 днів тому

    I would always recommend glasses while riding. I went through the back window of a car and had a nice little perimeter of glass granules around my eyes that matched the perimeter of the glasses I was wearing.

  • @jemandthemystery
    @jemandthemystery Місяць тому +6

    The greater problem for Jonas is his (lack of) team compared to last year and Pog’s team this year.

    • @TheGotoGeek
      @TheGotoGeek Місяць тому +4

      Yeah, he’s really missing Kuss.

    • @chris_noswe
      @chris_noswe Місяць тому

      @@TheGotoGeek I love me some Kuss, but we're in week 3 of the Tour - Sepp couldn't carry Jonas all this way on his own. Visma will have to restructure the team for next years Tour for sure.

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Chris , Emily , and Jimmi ......." chip away..Jimmi , chip away...."

  • @jamesmckenzie3532
    @jamesmckenzie3532 Місяць тому

    Thank you Chris. You comments were enlightening.

  • @ralvesco
    @ralvesco Місяць тому +2

    And again, Jonas doesn’t attack he ups the tempo and he is really strong when doing so. He is super strong, he just is no attacker.

  • @MegaToddski
    @MegaToddski Місяць тому +1

    Pog owns the polka dot jersey, Vinegaard is wearing it on behalf

  • @rizakatsudon
    @rizakatsudon Місяць тому

    Have a good rest day! The coverage has been illuminating and fun

  • @Hribster
    @Hribster Місяць тому +2

    Another great episode. Came for Triban bike video. Stayed (now for a full year) for great content and energy. And as I said on Instagram loving this show! Pogačar and Roglič pronunciation is spot on.
    Best regards from Slovenia 🇸🇮
    Keep on the good work!

  • @gaspi91
    @gaspi91 Місяць тому

    Really entertaining podcast, didn't expect the giro spoiler (plan on watching tmrw) but is nice of you to dedicate some minutes for women batteling it out in Italy.

  •  Місяць тому +3

    Does Jimmy have these crocs with cleats build in for commuting?

  • @MrEMann
    @MrEMann Місяць тому +4

    Jonas' team is letting him down. Visma needs to do a big reset after this race or accept runner-up status in the future

    • @johndoiron9615
      @johndoiron9615 Місяць тому +1

      They lost 3 climbers before the tour.

  • @scottbates1424
    @scottbates1424 Місяць тому

    For Crocs, they are also called putting down your “adventure straps” 😂

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 Місяць тому +3

    Look up the heat tolerance training protocol used by the British national team to prepare for the Tokyo Olympics if you want to get an idea of the insane things athletes do these days to cope with heat.

  • @Hairyson-g5j
    @Hairyson-g5j Місяць тому +2

    Hi guys, will you do a video on the Van Rysel EDR AF 105? It’s on sale for below £1000 right now

  • @alexanderchalupka7235
    @alexanderchalupka7235 Місяць тому +8

    This show is so amazing! I'm actually sad there's a rest day tomorrow since that means im having dinner without you guys and gal 😊
    But one may not forget: it's kinda sad, Francis isn't an active part of this since I really like the vibe between the three of you lately.

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  Місяць тому +10

      major FOMO for me, looking forward to being back soon! - francis

  • @Andrew-fp8yf
    @Andrew-fp8yf Місяць тому

    Thanks for no title spoilers 🙏

  • @paulawright6868
    @paulawright6868 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you Chris Hall. ❤

  • @TBat0431
    @TBat0431 Місяць тому +11

    Chipping away 😂

  • @biggertree7063
    @biggertree7063 Місяць тому +1

    My man, Victor Campenaerts!

  • @Tubesmaney
    @Tubesmaney Місяць тому +1

    People act like it's the first time they've seen a professional bicycle race over there. WTH? What a bunch of clowns.

  • @oheso
    @oheso Місяць тому

    Aquatic sports shoes (for SUP etc.) are almost as light as flipflops and much more secure.

  • @DDai-qd8uk
    @DDai-qd8uk Місяць тому

    Well done you 3 boys! Keep it up

  • @logojones96
    @logojones96 Місяць тому +1

    feel terrible for Campanaerts' retinas lol.

  • @davidkaiza2484
    @davidkaiza2484 Місяць тому

    awesome trio!

  • @reusserfarm1
    @reusserfarm1 Місяць тому

    Always fun to see Chris and get his input, loved that the idiot has been arrested that is so wrong.

  • @Shigut
    @Shigut Місяць тому +1

    At that moment for sure Biniam was thinking just only about Philippisen coming from behind & that's why he did unnecessarry mistake

  • @palouuolap
    @palouuolap Місяць тому +1

    On Peacock's feed, at 1:30, the riders are going past a yellow "Botique Officielle". Some guy in a grey t-shirt and shorts comes out of the booth, steps up to the riders, and spits on one of them. This happens just as Carapaz catches up to the breakawy on a climb. Target was probably the rider two bikes ahead of #151. #96 may have been his target. Though I think it was the rider one further ahead - #216? Wonder who else he's spit on throughout the day (or previous days). I hope somebody (CPA) makes enough noise about this that the police arrest him too.

  • @jonathanstein1140
    @jonathanstein1140 Місяць тому

    Thanks Chris!

  • @twinpiperzed7222
    @twinpiperzed7222 Місяць тому +1

    I’d just like to say no one wore glasses until the Lemond Oakley era started in the late 80s

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 Місяць тому

    Remember during the Giro when we were asking if road cycling is now boring?

  • @MJQuintana
    @MJQuintana Місяць тому

    Jonas V wearing the Polkadot Jersey is like a boy with Chicken Fox

  • @eegaugh
    @eegaugh Місяць тому

    I loved this video!
    BTW, I always remove the straps from my Crocs - less sporty but more aero.

  • @grantwilliams2912
    @grantwilliams2912 Місяць тому

    Another great one.. Q36.5 clothing is designed around sustaining healthy body temperature

  • @dperreno
    @dperreno Місяць тому +1

    Poor Nick - this whole tour thing has really gotten to him!

  • @kjensen7819
    @kjensen7819 Місяць тому

    Pog and Jonas both incredible, but looks like it is actually the strongest team who wins. Visma the last 2 years and UAE this year. It is actually a team sport.

  • @joeszeto8859
    @joeszeto8859 Місяць тому +3

    Chipping away, chipping away, chipping away… NOT!! 😂😂😂

  • @rejean2744
    @rejean2744 Місяць тому +3

    Jimmy, I see Vinegaard chipped away some more today.(haha) Pog saw a moment of weakness from Jonas on the last climb and attacked ....game over. "Let him go, reel him in"...what on earth are you talking about? There will be no "reeling in".

  • @Grayle-lm2xq
    @Grayle-lm2xq Місяць тому +1

    Nick the mechanic Bahahahahahah

  • @ecoli9
    @ecoli9 Місяць тому

    It's such a great battle but does anyone miss the first two weeks being a big yellow jersey war between breakaway hero's knowing that the mountain guys are coming up.
    It seems the yellow jersey from the 3rd stage is the new normsl

  • @aaaahahahahahah4300
    @aaaahahahahahah4300 Місяць тому

    The only podcast with Fidel Casteo. 😂

  • @MarkWeishaar-g4r
    @MarkWeishaar-g4r Місяць тому

    There's only 1000m of climbing, unless COVID gets more folks all the remaining sprinter's will make it.🏁🏆

  • @stevenbell482
    @stevenbell482 Місяць тому

    🎉❤ Love U guys and Girl. Amazing job

  • @warwickpadmore4644
    @warwickpadmore4644 Місяць тому

    Boo hoo, 😢 I, too, want Chris to stay! Just discovered your channel. Love the refreshing, lighthearted banter and the TDF commentary. You make the viewer feel very at ease, like they’re seated at a table with you in a pub sharing, sharing a pint. Think I’ll stick around!

  • @robertcolmerauer-cs3yk
    @robertcolmerauer-cs3yk Місяць тому

    Is everyone forgetting that Jonas is missing Sepp? How different would this stage have been if Sepp was leading Jonas? Could he have countered Pog’s attack if he had Sepp’s help?

  • @stevefraser7501
    @stevefraser7501 Місяць тому

    Pog is actually the holder of the polka dot jersey. Vingegaard only has it because Pog cant wear 2 jerseys at once.

  • @junkandcrapamen
    @junkandcrapamen Місяць тому

    I always think of that old (better) green jersey as Sagan's color.

  • @alexshaw139
    @alexshaw139 Місяць тому

    I don't think Jonas and Pogi are that concerned about the final TT, they weren't far off on the first and the last day has over double the climbing which suits them more

  • @systemicchaos3921
    @systemicchaos3921 Місяць тому +1

    Such a bad take, Jonas gives no thoughts for Remco at all. He's trying to win and his focus is solely on Pog.

  • @halschmitter3876
    @halschmitter3876 Місяць тому +1

    Chris' charming exuberance makes your show. Without you're like all ther pundits.

  • @jeffholder1156
    @jeffholder1156 Місяць тому

    STAGE 16 - FLUFF UP OF THE DAY JUST HAPPENED! Bob Roll on Peacock at about 4hrs and 52 minutes in just said "F#ck" in the live feed!

  • @AufdemLaufenden777
    @AufdemLaufenden777 Місяць тому

    Why did I found this just now?

  • @maroso7422
    @maroso7422 Місяць тому

    The question is no footage when Bini was pushed to crush 🤔

  • @DavidB0001
    @DavidB0001 Місяць тому

    Chris has added so much to this podcast. I hope he becomes a regular contributor in the future. His own UA-cam channel is really good too!

  • @AS-hv2ux
    @AS-hv2ux Місяць тому

    Where did you get that Tiger Strip Camo shirt? Dope

  • @tonymckenzie3091
    @tonymckenzie3091 Місяць тому

    that final climb looked mental and I have just seen the numbers which are freaky and unsurprisingly raising questions about how clean these riders are ? Personally I think they are clean and the science of nutrition, cooling and rehydrating together with equipment marginal gains is producing the freaky numbers...the speed that Jonas and Pog were going up the second half of that climb was astonishing, I had to keep looking at the on screen slope percentage data to check they were still going up hill...and still Pog attacks !

  • @MarkWeishaar-g4r
    @MarkWeishaar-g4r Місяць тому

    Chapeau for not owning Crocs

  • @StickmanAirsoftPH
    @StickmanAirsoftPH Місяць тому +13

    Everybody attacking poor Jimmy in the comments. Remember, in these types of shows someone has to act as devil's advocate. A show like this would be boring if everyone was on the same page on everything.

    • @emilychilds8085
      @emilychilds8085 Місяць тому +6

      Would be a very short show if we’d just gone ‘Pogacar will win, everyone agrees’ every day 😂 Thankfully he has big shoulders and is happy to play antagonistic

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken Місяць тому +3

      ..and the comments would be boring if we didn't pick on poor Jimmy 😆😆

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Місяць тому

    Honestly after Jonas crash I didnt expect him to win the TDF. I actually think hes riding pretty well after what hes been through.

  • @terrydalzell6928
    @terrydalzell6928 Місяць тому

    Why is no one talking about the power outputs and speeds. If I'm correct. The climb on stage 15 was the fastest time on that last climb. Beating the greatest dope taking cyclists.

  • @johnmcnulty1129
    @johnmcnulty1129 Місяць тому

    The main GC "Cats", on a Pyrenean Queen's Stage like today's. Wonder exactly how much of the mind blowing views & landscape they actually "take in" & appreciate !
    Can't be ALL staring at the ground, Garmin, ear getting "chewed" by race radio & punching away "over enthusiastic " Fruit bats !

  • @ponta65
    @ponta65 Місяць тому

    Satisfied 😂😂😂

  • @1000750
    @1000750 Місяць тому +2

    Is this even Francis's channel anymore or was it Hijacked from him 😂😂

    • @charlottewahl7728
      @charlottewahl7728 Місяць тому +3

      He is probably with his family, cause his dad is seriously ill

  • @jurgenimschoot1704
    @jurgenimschoot1704 Місяць тому

    Little respect for Kopecky from the cade media crew, she attacked Borghini on the last climb, couldn't make a gap and hence was cooked in the final couple of hundred meters.
    Good win for Borghini, but Kopecky really made her work for it.

  • @mylittlepitbull3143
    @mylittlepitbull3143 Місяць тому +1

    Lemond v. Hinault

  • @davidoliver6408
    @davidoliver6408 Місяць тому +3

    Tony! Tony! Tony!...bring Tony back!

  • @butchgreene
    @butchgreene Місяць тому

    5:00 minutes. That's exactly what is happening but Bob Roll & Phil never even propose it.

  • @GriffinMcMurray
    @GriffinMcMurray Місяць тому +23

    Who is this Emily person. I only know producer Emily? 😂😂😂

    • @kubackjeee
      @kubackjeee Місяць тому +1

      Calling her an editor is just a slap in a face to real editors. She has the job just because she's Jimmy's wife and somehow Francis gave them a chance to ruin his channel after they failed to run their clothing brand.

    • @jamesmckenzie3532
      @jamesmckenzie3532 Місяць тому

      She produces and edits the various Wild shows. Francis couldn't keep up with all that Wild (Cade Media) is doing for podcasts and video.

    • @oscardot
      @oscardot Місяць тому +1

      ​@@kubackjeeeJimmi is making the channel unwatchable.
      Unbearable.

    • @kubackjeee
      @kubackjeee Місяць тому

      ​@@oscardot yeah they totally ruined this channel. I cancelled my subscription. Can't listen to Jimmy or look at Emily "editor" lol

  • @Ghost12561
    @Ghost12561 Місяць тому

    Pog, Jonas and Roglic is on another level. Remco is not there with them unfortunately, if Yates is not a domestique he can drop Remco easily on the climb certainly but still everyone is overhyping Remco. Basically, if Pog and Jonas are there Remco has no chance winning a tour.

  • @alstuart8801
    @alstuart8801 Місяць тому

    STILL no electrical tape for Chris' mic... cmon guys

  • @paosceptic
    @paosceptic Місяць тому

    Obviously Pog & Jonas are the best cyclists in the world but I think for sportsmanship Pog is the best

  • @Sutlore007
    @Sutlore007 Місяць тому

    Thiinking about if Pogi went down because of that flipflop under his wheels, will that running guy get arrested as well?

  • @classicjetsims
    @classicjetsims 27 днів тому

    Crazy how fast they were climbing? Yea, of course. They're climbing faster and putting out more power than the super-doped riders of the past. Something isn't right. Pog doesn't even look tired ever or have a bad day.

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman0909 Місяць тому

    Jonas isn't going to win this TDF, but he will almost certainly finish -- to do that after the injury he had is remarkable. It was perhaps more than he could expect to defeat Tadej this tour.

  • @gigirabbit
    @gigirabbit Місяць тому +4

    Jonas and Visma don't even care about Remco or anyone else but 'The Pogacar'. I will follow him, follow him wherever he may go...

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken Місяць тому

      And unfortunate for them...there are mountains high enough to keep him from getting to Pog

  • @FreshDirtyWater
    @FreshDirtyWater Місяць тому

    People in the US seem to have forgotten covid is a thing still. Finishing up with it currently. Not as bad as the first go around for me but I can't imagine racing at their level with it. Though I also can't imagine racing at their level anyway.

    • @derekhobbs1102
      @derekhobbs1102 Місяць тому

      I wouldn't have known I had without positive test. Would have still ridden my bike, but fines applied for breaking quarantine.

  • @ray.shoesmith
    @ray.shoesmith Місяць тому

    Contador and Shleck

  • @vaxxxx
    @vaxxxx Місяць тому

    Producer Emily, could you always put timestamps in your vidoes, similar to this one. On that note, I'm trying to find the video where you talked about this new dangerous CO2 breathing machine. Can someone point me in what recap it was?

  • @TeoSluga
    @TeoSluga Місяць тому

    Jonas and Tadej are not afraid of Remco.... The last ITT is a mountain ITT, where Remco will not perform better than those two. Remco is best on flat ITTs...