In the US it’s the opposite. Honda CRV has 3 trim levels for hybrid & model to model in comparison is cheaper than RAV 4. I like the ride & feel of the Honda better& agree that it is a touch more stylish.
Tire “repair and fill” kits are useless when you get a blowout or cut a sidewall. It may not happen often, but it does happen, so I’d still rather have a spare.
Agreed. The CR-V has room for a spare, but the battery is somewhat sloppily stuck into that area. To my eye, they could have fit both a spare and a battery, by making the battery a better shape. However, according to AAA, 30% of new cars come with a spare, so going spare-less is becoming more common.
Agreed. I was let down big-time with a no-spare on my wife's 2018 Toyota Prius Prime. Thank goodness she wasn't stuck in a dangerous environment. The inflation kit couldn't stop the leak and the car had to be towed away. Later, went to Toyota to buy a donut spare...they wouldn't sell me one because the car never came with one as original, so therefore there's no official part number. And to try to buy one from a previous year, I was told I had to supply a VIN from that year of car which obviously I couldn't do. In frustration I said "Fine, I'll find one online aftermarket. At least sell me a replacement container of the tire-fill goop that comes with the inflation kit." Parts guy looked that up and said "It'll be $90." NINETY dollars! See ya. And that was two years ago.
We have a 2022 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Limited and we do have a spare tire, heated back seats and trail mode with the Michelin slick tires 😂 We average 41.9 mpg at the pump over 24300 miles. It's absolutely awesome. The EV mode works great for us once we get in our neighborhood the engine cuts off for the whole mile to get home. I've seen it holding up to 30mph in some area too but yeah, battery has to be 3/4 full. With 90% battery level you can run the A/C and crawl in traffic for about 15 minutes before the engine kicks in. We enjoy it a lot.
@@johnmartin7158I own a 2022 RAV4 Hybrid and a 21 Venza. It truly is a Lexus lite and nicer than the Honda. It also has a lithium ion battery. I'm averaging 43.3 MPG in the Venza. I have not yet verified the mileage in the RAV. Both have the JBL sound system but it sounds better in the Venza. Venza has a more quiet ride and the most comfortable seats.
@@powerguymark Hi, yes the Venza is a very nice vehicle. I hear many good things about it. In NZ Toyota doesn’t get the Vemza. I’ve got a 2022 Toyota RAV4 Adventure Hybid. I’m getting 40 MPG. But your 43 is so impressive. Rav is noisy. Let’s hope the new generation in 2025 is a lot better.
@@powerguymark I would be considering the venza as a first choice, but unfortunately it does not have an opening roof. Outside air coming in through the roof and a spare tire are non-negotiable for me. I don't understand why they don't offer all these options on all the models, at least as optional. It really cuts down on the choice. I would be considering the Corrola crossover too, but no spare tire! WHY?? That leaves me with only the Rav4 as even a choice, but it's a tad too big and overpriced.
I bought a honda hybrid as it was available for purchase right away and I was told in Canada it would be a 10 month wait to a get a new Rav4. I could not wait for a new vehicle as I lost my other vehicle in a car crash that was not my fault. The only Rav4's that were available were used ones that were 10,000 over list price. I am happy with my Honda purchase
For regen-braking using the paddles in the CR-V, you can hold down the left paddle for a couple seconds and then it will keep the regen level of your choice. Also, there are six levels of regen-braking, but only three available at highway speeds
I have a 2018 Honda CRV. Absolutely bullet proof.170,000 miles with NO problems at all. Very comfortable to drive and the best feature is the adaptive cruise control. We drive on the highway a lot and the ACC is a game changer. Also this car is a tank in snow. 10 out of 10 stars for me. Honda forever!
i have a 2020 rav4 trd off road love it 80000 km no issues yes its like me boring and reliable.8000.00 feels good in my pocket.i wont hesitate to get another rav4.
I went with the RAV4 mostly for the ventilated seats and 360 camera and spare. I like the interior better on the Honda but it just lacked the features I needed living in a desert town.
Rav4 hybrid all day long. I might be a little biased though. I have a 2021 Toyota Venza Hybrid. Same exact power train. Had it for 2 years. My avg. Mile/gallon is 42 in summer, drops to 38 in winter. Probably due to winter blend gasoline and/or battery colder and not as efficient.
TK, When it comes to occupant space, Toyota has absolutely NO excuse not to match its chief rivals like the CR-V when the next generation RAV4 comes out in a year or so. 🤨 In every other measure, I will take the RAV4. Nobody beats Toyota in the Hybrid game!🤩
rav4 and crv are the same thing both are reliable It depends on those who like Honda or Toyota I like it and I have Rav4 TRD If I had the money I would have both
For me personally, out of those 2 specific vehicles I would agree with your dad and keep my 8k for the simple fact the Rav4 is more of a utility and comes with the spare tire. Lol Here in Canada especially northern west coast like me salt and rocks eat tires alot worse then South/central Ontario. I know because I was born in GTA and have been to and lived all over ONT from Kirkland lake south. Lol
I think both are good looking vehicles. Based on TFL Roller test, the Toyota AWD isnt as good with the missing drive shaft. One thing you should add to your intangibles is cost to insure. I have 2 nieces...one drives a corolla se and the other a civic. The Civic costs more to insure than the Corolla. That could be another battle of the mighty dollar.
Thanks for the review, I think it was well done and hit the pertinent points. I have been going back and forth between these two vehicles and am a bit torn. I think the CRV is a bit better looking (subjective, of course), but I think in the long term the RAV4 will be a bit more reliable as its hybrid system is quite a bit simpler. Unlike the reviewer I actually like the RAV4s AWD system, I think it is an elegant engineering solution to get AWD without intruding on the passenger compartment with driveshafts and such. And don't kid yourself, every aspect of the operation of either hybrid system is computer controlled; the fact that there is no mechanical connection between front and rear is a non-issue for me.
The CR-V's system is simpler. Compare ua-cam.com/video/QLUIExAnNcE/v-deo.html to ua-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/v-deo.html . Even with the (new) second clutch, there are basically three gears CR-V. That's less than in the planet carrier of the RAV4's PSD. And don't say the clutch makes it less reliable. Toyota hybrids actually (yes, they do) have more history of clutch failure than these Hondas. ua-cam.com/video/wzCACoJn-wM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/qaqqs3nKy4g/v-deo.html . And if you check reliability ratings, and not opinions, you will find that the CR-V has a better history. KBB rates the 2022 CR-V (youngest rated) at a 4/5 out of 5; the 2022 RAV4 gets a 3.8. The RAV4's AWD gets very poor performance ratings, because the balance of power front-to-rear is poor, and runs out when the battery does.
@@jeffjo8732 How do you figure? The CRV has multiple clutches (wear items), rear driveshaft, and rear differential, none of which are involved with the RAV4 simple planetary gearset and electric rear drive. ua-cam.com/video/Fg3W-qzZJrg/v-deo.html I'm not knocking the CRV, it has and probably will be very reliable, but talking about it's repair "history" in the hybrid's first model year is kinda funny. Any difference in long-term reliability won't be apparent for a decade.
@@stevecarlson2346 "Simpler" is self evident. Just look at them. I provided links. "More reliable" has been demonstrated. Yes, clutches can wear. The clutch in the RAV4 (yes, it has one, called a torque damper) is subject to wear every time the engine starts. Some fail, you can see it in the links. The clutches in the Honda hybrids do not wear because they only close when the speeds are perfectly matched. There is no history in the ten years - seven with significant sales - that the system has been used. This is the second model year for the CR-V, but the only mechanical change in the ten-year history of the system is the addition of the second clutch, which has the same potential as the first clutch. I didn't want to go further back in their histories, but the CR-V has a 4.5 on KBB for the three model years where they rated it and it existed.The original Honda with the system, the 2014 Accord PHEV, has a 4.7. The RAV4, which was at 4.7 before 2019, is now at 3.8. This is the same design you are considering. It has been demonstrated to be the less reliable car. From JDPower, the 2022 and 2021 CR-Vs get 84/100. The 2020 (debut year) drops to 79/100. Over those years, the RAV4 gets 81, 81, 74. JDPower changed their scoring in 2020; in earlier years the CR-V gets 3.5/5 while the RAV4 gets 3/5. What I'm trying to say is that Toyota's simplicity and reliability advantage is popular myth, not fact. But because it is simpler, there are less things that can go wrong in the CR-V.
@@jeffjo8732 Interesting. I haven't had time to watch the videos you linked but I will. I am still trying to decide if now is the time to even buy a vehicle, whichever one I choose.
The crv looks are better but has its flaws one which really looks cheap is the beautiful but only one functioning exhaust tip. Correct that Honda. If you,re gonna show case dual exhaust then make them both functional! With the rav 4 toyota needs to kick it up a notch in the wheel size department. The crv has 19” wheels compared to Toyotas 18” wheels which makes the crv look a lot more impressive. So Toyota kick it up and get 19” or even better 20” wheels to make it look sexier and more impressive
I test drove both recently. The CRV hybrid felt a little smoother and had less road and wind noise than the Rav4 hybrid. The CRV also had adjustable brake regen, whereas the Rav4 didn't let you do any of that.
Thank you so much. The best comparison and reviews ever. We recently bought Honda 2024 hybrid L model. We preferred it over Rav4 for the same exact plus features as we are starting a family and preferred a car with more room, looks, and a better feel while driving.
A few questions regarding cargo: (1) How wide is the hatch opening? (2) Can you fold the second seat flat? What's the length of the cargo space when you do? (3) Can you fold front passenger seat flat?
Having had both models, I was able to fit a twin mattress in the not-so flat CRV trunk. However, as big as the trunk space was on paper, it’s mostly vertical space compared to the RAV4. CRV trunk is short and tall which means less space unless you stack.
The other thing to consider is also the RAV4 takes 1-1.5yr wait time plus dealers are charging added fees above MSRP. So after all is said and done, the gap is no longer $8K - more like $4K esp if you’re trading in a vehicle (the trade in after 1-1.5yr wait time has also depreciated)!
Base hybrid trims in Canada: CRV - $49,456 RAV4 - $39,015 Top hybrid trims in Canada: CRV - $51,956 RAV4 - $50,015 Total trim levels available in Canada: CRV - 2 RAV4 - 5 trims, 3 package add-ons
good video Stephen/Howard I agree with Howard I'll keep my 8K have the RAV4 all day anyway having driven both on lengthly trips to the west coast right to the tip of Vancouver Island , the suspension on the RAV4 becomes a little more compliant with its broken in, as for cargo length inside, the Rav4 wins my brother in law and I had to bring home a new fridge and couldn't use the CRV ,so we got the RAV4 and it had almost 3' to spare and saved a $100 delivery charge and had my fridge home and set up running in under an hour and Toyota vs Honda OEM parts are cheaper on average than Honda's and last longer, so RAV4 all the way
Major difference on adaptive cruise control between Honda and Toyota.. Toyota is able to slow down getting closer to road curves with curve sign posts or terrain behind. Honda is not slowing unless sees a car in front and that was a bummer when I drove test both cars at the same curve.
Rav 4 woodland hybrid is closer to $45,000, it's the regular XLE that is $42,000. The CRV hybrid EX-L is $48,000 and for the most part offers the same features as the touring, so in reality the prices are quite similar.
I seriously considered the RAV4, but the current inventory situation around the greater Toronto area is dismal with Toyota. After reaching out to three different dealerships it was a consistent message that it would take anywhere from 6 - 18 months to get a new RAV4. No inventory = no customer. Going with the Honda CRV EXL hybrid, and overall I think it is the better choice.
I bought the Honda, but I would have liked to go with the Toyota instead, if the Toyota dealerships were not charging 5k over MSRP in Florida, my old neighbor lady but a Corolla Cross LE for 50k, that was a crime, I only got charged 1k over MSRP with the Honda, Toyotas are the best but their dealerships are crooks. BTW I'm getting 37mpg in the city, but 43 mpg city with the ford maverick that has very similar Toyota hybrid system which is better but a little louder
should have done some mud or mild off road to test the 4 wheel drive systems. isnt that one of the most important reasons people buy an AWD vehicle. people need to know if they are gonna be good for snow or a slippery trail climb if they ever need it
Toyota all day every day long term. Honda makes great motors (Except 1.5L Turbo) but their transmissions are always weaker than Toyota’s. I have owned many Toyota’s and Honda’s to know this. Still own both makes to this day.
Why no mention comparing the acceleration of the two? No one is looking to drag race but get up and go is something prospective new car buyers will almost always test when they are shopping.
@@nicholassmith7048 And you know they're very close and adequate, how? Because they've been tested/demoed by someone. And not everyone has seen the same information you have, which is why it should have been shown. Say what you will, but it is common for an auto reviewer to give at least a seat-of-the-pants acceleration demonstration to the two vehicles they are directly comparing. Extremely common, in fact. Perhaps one jumps right off the line, perhaps one has to be revved high. The lack of it here, with these two dedicated guys, is odd.
EV Mode: Battery does have to be at a certain level and EV Mode is available up to 25 mph. It will get you up small climbs and that sort of thing, but if you gun it? EV Mode will turn off because you are wanting more power then what EV Mode has to offer. When your driving down the road EV Mode will automatically come on at times when you are cruising at a set speed. This will help discharge and balance out the hybrid battery and give you that nice fuel economy. I love my Camry Hybrid and EV Mode and the electric motors when you are going down hill that charge the battery on down hills or just driving where the gas motor has taken over to help recharge the hybrid battery is pretty sweet. Toyota has made a really great system here and they have over 20 years of experience in the EV Market!
The tow rating for the RAV4 Hybrid is 1,750 pounds. That could be easily increased to 3,500 if Toyota gave it the same 245 hp powertrain found in the Highlander and Sienna Hybrids.
So about that manual switch for the regenerative braking of the CR-V; About how many people do you reckon will remember to crank up the mode when going down a mountain? And what would be the percentage of that number will be your typical lady drivers?
I’d wait a year to see how the new Honda Design CVT is. Allot of clutches, pumps, and valve bodies for a “CVT.” Planetary Gear CVT on the Toyota is a Chunk of Granite.
There is no actual CVT on the Honda. What Honda calls "e:CVT" is a misnomer and is simply the bigger electric motor driving the wheels (as you may know electric motors don't require shifting hence EVs don't have shifters). So at low speeds the Honda drives in EV mode, powered by the batteries, and the gasoline engine through the smaller motor, charges the batteries and sends some power to the electric motor. Then at high speeds (where you would normally shift to final gear), it couples the gasoline engine to the drivetrain--so it drives in gasoline mode. This is why Hondas have a strange MPG where highway may be less fuel efficient than city.
Please due your Due Diligence as to the internal components on the CR-V Hybrids internals. The eCVT does indeed contain 2 Clutches for Low and High Speed engagement, and a traditional fluid pump and Valve Body. None of which exist in the Toyota eCVT and it's Planetary Gear Variable Ratio setup. @@gilbs72
Man, you did a great Job in Comparison. i am in a dilemma between the two, i was always a Toyota fan, but I cant get one easily so I may go to the Honda.
Which has a smoother ride? I’ve always heard that in general, Toyota is meant for cruising so usually smoother, while Honda is more sport and less smooth.
Of course the Honda wins for looks in and out because it’s a new design. However, Toyota’s hybrid game has been proven. I’ve had both - traded 4 month 23 CRV grand touring for a ‘23 RAV4 XSE-best bang for your buck and you get a spare tire, digital rear view mirror, 360° camera and panoramic sunroof for practically the same price (granted you find either vehicle selling at MSRP)
Hey I am confused between rav4 XSE and limited what’s the difference between both of them do you know? I mean I don’t want to miss important features like collision detection, left-right mirror cameras, autobraking etc Also does RAV4 XSE has smart feature like the one which Honda has like Honda sense like lane assistant and autobraking etc. Your insight would be really helpful
Not a fair comparison. The Honda CRV was recently redesigned where the RAV4 is 5 years old. There will be a new redesigned RAV4 next year in 2024. I have no doubt the new RAV4 will be much better.
Rav 4 - hybrid towing capacity is 1750 vs Honda 1500 lbs, More horses on the Rav. Spare tire on the RAV while Honda has none. Hybrid battery on Rav is back seat while Honda is under the cargo area. Also the ECVt on the Toyota is superior on the trans side. Toyota is the winner
The RAV4, styling-wise is a little funky and getting a bit dated looking whereas the redesign of the CRV is very fresh, modern and tied down. Hoping the next gen of the RAV adopts some of the new Land Cruiser look. I like that the RAV hybrid is available in more and cheaper trims….Honda needs to up its game here. Not really digging that Woodland colour or bronze wheels. Kind of a toss up at this point….lets see what the next gen RAV brings to the table.
I love my 2024 Honda Touring Hybrid. It's about time Toyota does an upgrade. Test drove it first and felt it didn't hold a candle to the CRV in my opinion. One big complaint with the Rav 4 is cabin noise. When people have to go buy weather stripping to install around their doors to cut the noise down, that's a huge no from me. I get 42 mpg on my CRV and all the comfort and style to go with the great mileage. I had a Corolla before this so I am very familiar with Toyota.
Great review and comparison as always. Only I recommend to learn more about Toyota hybrid. What you explained about the hybrid system Rav4 using is different than some other Toyota models such as Prius or Crown and Tundra. What you mentioned is just half of the story. There is actually 2 additional electric motors located in the gearbox.
??? All Toyota hybrids use two motor-generators, called MG1 and MG2, in the transaxle. ("Gearbox" can be ambiguous - the CR-V can be described as not having one.) It is basically the same in all models. The P610 in the previous Prius has *_different_* motors than the P710 in the RAV4, but not more. See ua-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/v-deo.html. The AWD versions add a third motor on the rear wheels. Which is all that was said about them, AFAICT.
@@jeffjo8732 Respectfully, they are different and they behave differently. It's not just about electric motors they use. Trucks are completely different than SUVs and sedans are different but as you mentioned more similar but still very different from batteries chemistry and size to power distribution.
@@ardalandanesh I'm not sure what differences you refer to. First, the RAV4 is a glorified car, not a truck, and behaves more like a car than a truck. It is built on the same TNGA-K (GA-K) platform that the Camry uses. But what I was specifically commenting on was the transaxle, not how it is used differently in a compact SUV. Specifically, where you said "There is actually 2 additional electric motors located in the gearbox." In the video I linked to (and you repeated for some reason), Prof. Kelly actually says, at 0:23, "Today we are going to talk about the transaxle. The hybrid transaxle that comes in the 2019 and above Toyota RAV4 hybrid. So this transaxle is called the p710 transaxle and it is just a little bit larger version of the p610 transaxle that comes in the 2016 and above Toyota Prius." That's what I meant by "basically the same in all models." At 1:56 he says "This transaxle has two electric motors." That's the same as the Prius. No "2 additional" ones. At 32:42 he describes what is larger: "There are three different transaxles in this series, that look very much alike. There's the P610 that's in the Prius, the P710 that we're looking at right now, and then the P810 that comes in the the RAV4 Prime. ... By comparison the P610 in the Prius has [an MG1] rotor (with the) same diameter, but it's 24.3 millimeters thinner. The (MG2) rotor ... in the Prius is 10 millimeters thinner than this one." That's the difference. And maybe some oil pumps, I didn't track that part. So it is the same two motors, with 10 to 25 mm thicker rotors. I did mention that it has one, not two, additional motor in the rear for AWD, but I don't think you can call that in the gearbox.
Nice review.In actual fuel economy the Honda isn't even close to the Toyota and in Canada the money you save buying the Toyota you can take a family of 4 to Hawaii for 1 week.
Your prices quoted are out by at least $2000 (too low before taxes) As well IN CANADA the Honda hybrid for 2024 no longer only comes in the just the Touring. In Canada you can now get yes for 24 not the 2023 you are reviewing a cheaper CRV Hybrid but in the “EX-L trim!” When reviewers on Canadian channels quote prices I really wish they’d add in the real costs after the PST & GST is included in the pricing. That 23 Touring Honda Hybrid after all taxes are in comes to $58000. Go figure- pun intended! Go Ni.
I'm usually a fan of your videos. This one not so much. You really skimmed over the engines and the drivetrains. The Honda has a mechanical drivetrain with a standard transmission that will require maintenance. Toyota calling it's tranny a eCVT is a disservice to what it actually is. It has NOTHING in common with a standard CVT and is essentially bulletproof. With proper maintenance it will Outlast the transmission being offered in the Honda and since it has no mechanical drivetrain it will save money on drivetrain maintenance. Also,since the rear motor is a 54 horsepower electric motor it provides MORE instant torque when accelerating than the CRV. The top trim JBL sound system is better than what is offered in the CRV. I would agree that the interior on a Honda seems a little less utilitarian, but given the drivetrain superiority of the Toyota, if someone is after a taste of luxury A VENZÀ is the right choice. The venza also has a lithium ion which would fare better in cold climates. You should watch the Weber University video on the RAV4 ECVT
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE test the heating and cooling systems on these when you have a chance. I own a CRV and it SUCKS producing heat in the winter. If the toyota is much better at that and I can get the hybrid in a cheaper model.. SOLD!
A very good point. Apparently some Honda engines are so efficient that they generate less waste heat than many others. My daily driver, an Acura, has a Honda K24 engine, and the heater is definitely weak. Honda's current 1.5 turbo has a history of being very slow to warm to the extent it was causing problems. I have no idea about the Toyota though.
It goes much higher than that. Mine goes about 50 km/h in EV mode if I drive lightly. I've seen EV mode stay on up to 80 km/h if it's downhill on the highway.
EV mode on the toyota is only available at speeds under 25mph. Fiance has a venza and it also has an EV mode. Unsure on the battery charge requirement if there is one
With no starter, no clutches (the Honda has two), and no alternator, the Toyota Hybrid system is a generation ahead of Honda. It should be more reliable and have a higher long-term resale value.
I wanted a hybrid and it was between the RAV4, Corolla Cross, and CRV. Ultimately I chose the CRV because I drive a lot and the bells and whistles provided comfort that I value. The guy in the video mentioned the bells and whistles aren’t worth $8k and I agree, so I haggled enough to push my price way down. I told them it was between the CRV and RAV4. Considering Toyotas are selling like hot cakes, I took advantage of this at the Honda dealership. I’ve had my CRV for 3 months and so far no regrets 👍🏻 Also to add - I drove a Honda Accord for 12 years and it had 270k miles on it when I recently sold it, at that point it needed about $5k to run smoothly again but I decided it was time for me to get a newer car. Didn’t need to, I could’ve just repaired it, but I was ready for an updated vehicle. I felt confident getting another Honda based on my long term experience.
In the US it’s the opposite. Honda CRV has 3 trim levels for hybrid & model to model in comparison is cheaper than RAV 4. I like the ride & feel of the Honda better& agree that it is a touch more stylish.
Tire “repair and fill” kits are useless when you get a blowout or cut a sidewall. It may not happen often, but it does happen, so I’d still rather have a spare.
Very good point!
Agreed. The CR-V has room for a spare, but the battery is somewhat sloppily stuck into that area. To my eye, they could have fit both a spare and a battery, by making the battery a better shape. However, according to AAA, 30% of new cars come with a spare, so going spare-less is becoming more common.
Agreed. I was let down big-time with a no-spare on my wife's 2018 Toyota Prius Prime. Thank goodness she wasn't stuck in a dangerous environment. The inflation kit couldn't stop the leak and the car had to be towed away. Later, went to Toyota to buy a donut spare...they wouldn't sell me one because the car never came with one as original, so therefore there's no official part number. And to try to buy one from a previous year, I was told I had to supply a VIN from that year of car which obviously I couldn't do. In frustration I said "Fine, I'll find one online aftermarket. At least sell me a replacement container of the tire-fill goop that comes with the inflation kit." Parts guy looked that up and said "It'll be $90." NINETY dollars! See ya. And that was two years ago.
Never used a spare in 35 years of driving so far.
@@sammydavis991 If you go off road you will.
We have a 2022 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Limited and we do have a spare tire, heated back seats and trail mode with the Michelin slick tires 😂 We average 41.9 mpg at the pump over 24300 miles. It's absolutely awesome. The EV mode works great for us once we get in our neighborhood the engine cuts off for the whole mile to get home. I've seen it holding up to 30mph in some area too but yeah, battery has to be 3/4 full. With 90% battery level you can run the A/C and crawl in traffic for about 15 minutes before the engine kicks in. We enjoy it a lot.
I’ve also got a top trim Rav. But the Honda seems a real nice vehicle and slightly more polished as in comfort. They are both nice vehicles.
@@johnmartin7158I own a 2022 RAV4 Hybrid and a 21 Venza. It truly is a Lexus lite and nicer than the Honda. It also has a lithium ion battery. I'm averaging 43.3 MPG in the Venza. I have not yet verified the mileage in the RAV. Both have the JBL sound system but it sounds better in the Venza. Venza has a more quiet ride and the most comfortable seats.
@@powerguymark Hi, yes the Venza is a very nice vehicle. I hear many good things about it. In NZ Toyota doesn’t get the Vemza. I’ve got a 2022 Toyota RAV4 Adventure Hybid. I’m getting 40 MPG. But your 43 is so impressive. Rav is noisy. Let’s hope the new generation in 2025 is a lot better.
@@powerguymark I would be considering the venza as a first choice, but unfortunately it does not have an opening roof. Outside air coming in through the roof and a spare tire are non-negotiable for me. I don't understand why they don't offer all these options on all the models, at least as optional. It really cuts down on the choice. I would be considering the Corrola crossover too, but no spare tire! WHY?? That leaves me with only the Rav4 as even a choice, but it's a tad too big and overpriced.
I bought a honda hybrid as it was available for purchase right away and I was told in Canada it would be a 10 month wait to a get a new Rav4. I could not wait for a new vehicle as I lost my other vehicle in a car crash that was not my fault. The only Rav4's that were available were used ones that were 10,000 over list price. I am happy with my Honda purchase
For regen-braking using the paddles in the CR-V, you can hold down the left paddle for a couple seconds and then it will keep the regen level of your choice. Also, there are six levels of regen-braking, but only three available at highway speeds
I would take the rav4 looks better in my opinion
One of the most reasonable reviews of these vehicles.
I have a 2018 Honda CRV. Absolutely bullet proof.170,000 miles with NO problems at all. Very comfortable to drive and the best feature is the adaptive cruise control. We drive on the highway a lot and the ACC is a game changer. Also this car is a tank in snow. 10 out of 10 stars for me. Honda forever!
How about the cvt transmission? I've heard cvt doesn't last as long
@@larryschlutt7211on Nissans the CVTs are problematic, Honda/Toyota/Subaru ones are fine (low failure rates for 10+ years)
@@larryschlutt7211 Transmission is flawless.
@@larryschlutt7211hybrid eCVTs are entirely different than the traditional CVT.
ACC and FCA is standard on all Toyotas. Not sure about Hondas.
i have a 2020 rav4 trd off road love it 80000 km no issues yes its like me boring and reliable.8000.00 feels good in my pocket.i wont hesitate to get another rav4.
Say it louder me to ❤😊
I went with the RAV4 mostly for the ventilated seats and 360 camera and spare. I like the interior better on the Honda but it just lacked the features I needed living in a desert town.
Toyota Rav4 all the way! Always
For me I’m going with Toyota RAV4
I'm glad you are so honest and you explain everything so well! Thank you!
Rav4 hybrid all day long. I might be a little biased though. I have a 2021 Toyota Venza Hybrid. Same exact power train. Had it for 2 years. My avg. Mile/gallon is 42 in summer, drops to 38 in winter. Probably due to winter blend gasoline and/or battery colder and not as efficient.
TK, When it comes to occupant space, Toyota has absolutely NO excuse not to match its chief rivals like the CR-V when the next generation RAV4 comes out in a year or so. 🤨 In every other measure, I will take the RAV4. Nobody beats Toyota in the Hybrid game!🤩
Toyota is very bad with space efficiency. None of their cars are practical really, pretty much everybody offers more room in the same footprint.
rav4 and crv are the same thing
both are reliable
It depends on those who like Honda or Toyota
I like it and I have Rav4 TRD
If I had the money I would have both
For me personally, out of those 2 specific vehicles I would agree with your dad and keep my 8k for the simple fact the Rav4 is more of a utility and comes with the spare tire. Lol Here in Canada especially northern west coast like me salt and rocks eat tires alot worse then South/central Ontario. I know because I was born in GTA and have been to and lived all over ONT from Kirkland lake south. Lol
Great comparison of two reliable and popular vehicles!
I think both are good looking vehicles. Based on TFL Roller test, the Toyota AWD isnt as good with the missing drive shaft. One thing you should add to your intangibles is cost to insure. I have 2 nieces...one drives a corolla se and the other a civic. The Civic costs more to insure than the Corolla. That could be another battle of the mighty dollar.
Thanks for the review, I think it was well done and hit the pertinent points. I have been going back and forth between these two vehicles and am a bit torn. I think the CRV is a bit better looking (subjective, of course), but I think in the long term the RAV4 will be a bit more reliable as its hybrid system is quite a bit simpler. Unlike the reviewer I actually like the RAV4s AWD system, I think it is an elegant engineering solution to get AWD without intruding on the passenger compartment with driveshafts and such. And don't kid yourself, every aspect of the operation of either hybrid system is computer controlled; the fact that there is no mechanical connection between front and rear is a non-issue for me.
The CR-V's system is simpler. Compare ua-cam.com/video/QLUIExAnNcE/v-deo.html to ua-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/v-deo.html . Even with the (new) second clutch, there are basically three gears CR-V. That's less than in the planet carrier of the RAV4's PSD. And don't say the clutch makes it less reliable. Toyota hybrids actually (yes, they do) have more history of clutch failure than these Hondas. ua-cam.com/video/wzCACoJn-wM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/qaqqs3nKy4g/v-deo.html .
And if you check reliability ratings, and not opinions, you will find that the CR-V has a better history. KBB rates the 2022 CR-V (youngest rated) at a 4/5 out of 5; the 2022 RAV4 gets a 3.8.
The RAV4's AWD gets very poor performance ratings, because the balance of power front-to-rear is poor, and runs out when the battery does.
@@jeffjo8732 How do you figure? The CRV has multiple clutches (wear items), rear driveshaft, and rear differential, none of which are involved with the RAV4 simple planetary gearset and electric rear drive. ua-cam.com/video/Fg3W-qzZJrg/v-deo.html I'm not knocking the CRV, it has and probably will be very reliable, but talking about it's repair "history" in the hybrid's first model year is kinda funny. Any difference in long-term reliability won't be apparent for a decade.
@@stevecarlson2346 "Simpler" is self evident. Just look at them. I provided links. "More reliable" has been demonstrated. Yes, clutches can wear. The clutch in the RAV4 (yes, it has one, called a torque damper) is subject to wear every time the engine starts. Some fail, you can see it in the links. The clutches in the Honda hybrids do not wear because they only close when the speeds are perfectly matched. There is no history in the ten years - seven with significant sales - that the system has been used.
This is the second model year for the CR-V, but the only mechanical change in the ten-year history of the system is the addition of the second clutch, which has the same potential as the first clutch. I didn't want to go further back in their histories, but the CR-V has a 4.5 on KBB for the three model years where they rated it and it existed.The original Honda with the system, the 2014 Accord PHEV, has a 4.7. The RAV4, which was at 4.7 before 2019, is now at 3.8. This is the same design you are considering. It has been demonstrated to be the less reliable car.
From JDPower, the 2022 and 2021 CR-Vs get 84/100. The 2020 (debut year) drops to 79/100. Over those years, the RAV4 gets 81, 81, 74. JDPower changed their scoring in 2020; in earlier years the CR-V gets 3.5/5 while the RAV4 gets 3/5.
What I'm trying to say is that Toyota's simplicity and reliability advantage is popular myth, not fact. But because it is simpler, there are less things that can go wrong in the CR-V.
@@jeffjo8732 Interesting. I haven't had time to watch the videos you linked but I will. I am still trying to decide if now is the time to even buy a vehicle, whichever one I choose.
I agree that the CR-V is more comfortable. The RAV4 feels a bit tight inside to me, but I think their hybrid system is better for MPG
Exactly!!
The crv looks are better but has its flaws one which really looks cheap is the beautiful but only one functioning exhaust tip. Correct that Honda. If you,re gonna show case dual exhaust then make them both functional!
With the rav 4 toyota needs to kick it up a notch in the wheel size department. The crv has 19” wheels compared to Toyotas 18” wheels which makes the crv look a lot more impressive. So Toyota kick it up and get 19” or even better 20” wheels to make it look sexier and more impressive
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Insightful review as always!!! 😁
I test drove both recently. The CRV hybrid felt a little smoother and had less road and wind noise than the Rav4 hybrid. The CRV also had adjustable brake regen, whereas the Rav4 didn't let you do any of that.
I'll take the toyota
Thank you so much. The best comparison and reviews ever. We recently bought Honda 2024 hybrid L model. We preferred it over Rav4 for the same exact plus features as we are starting a family and preferred a car with more room, looks, and a better feel while driving.
A few questions regarding cargo:
(1) How wide is the hatch opening?
(2) Can you fold the second seat flat? What's the length of the cargo space when you do?
(3) Can you fold front passenger seat flat?
Folding front passenger seat is very rare, it's great when it's there but most cars don't have it.
Having had both models, I was able to fit a twin mattress in the not-so flat CRV trunk. However, as big as the trunk space was on paper, it’s mostly vertical space compared to the RAV4. CRV trunk is short and tall which means less space unless you stack.
@@AbleRiot Thanks, that's the useful information I look for. Manufacturer's cubic feet measurements are utterly useless for any practical application.
agree with papa, keep the 8 grand & get the Toyota, as it is the most reliable vehicle on the road.
Not all CRVs cost $8K more than the RAV4, just the trim level they happen to have for this video.
The other thing to consider is also the RAV4 takes 1-1.5yr wait time plus dealers are charging added fees above MSRP. So after all is said and done, the gap is no longer $8K - more like $4K esp if you’re trading in a vehicle (the trade in after 1-1.5yr wait time has also depreciated)!
The Rav4 is more expensive here in Canada for the same trim levels
Base hybrid trims in Canada:
CRV - $49,456
RAV4 - $39,015
Top hybrid trims in Canada:
CRV - $51,956
RAV4 - $50,015
Total trim levels available in Canada:
CRV - 2
RAV4 - 5 trims, 3 package add-ons
good video Stephen/Howard I agree with Howard I'll keep my 8K have the RAV4 all day anyway having driven both on lengthly trips to the west coast right to the tip of Vancouver Island , the suspension on the RAV4 becomes a little more compliant with its broken in, as for cargo length inside, the Rav4 wins my brother in law and I had to bring home a new fridge and couldn't use the CRV ,so we got the RAV4 and it had almost 3' to spare and saved a $100 delivery charge and had my fridge home and set up running in under an hour and Toyota vs Honda OEM parts are cheaper on average than Honda's and last longer, so RAV4 all the way
You don’t have to keep 8 grand if you go with CRV sport
Good review. I’m with your dad on this one.
If I was the driver, I'd go for the RAV4 Prime but if I was a passenger, I'd like to sit in the back of the CRV
Major difference on adaptive cruise control between Honda and Toyota.. Toyota is able to slow down getting closer to road curves with curve sign posts or terrain behind. Honda is not slowing unless sees a car in front and that was a bummer when I drove test both cars at the same curve.
Rav 4 woodland hybrid is closer to $45,000, it's the regular XLE that is $42,000. The CRV hybrid EX-L is $48,000 and for the most part offers the same features as the touring, so in reality the prices are quite similar.
I seriously considered the RAV4, but the current inventory situation around the greater Toronto area is dismal with Toyota. After reaching out to three different dealerships it was a consistent message that it would take anywhere from 6 - 18 months to get a new RAV4. No inventory = no customer. Going with the Honda CRV EXL hybrid, and overall I think it is the better choice.
I like RAV-4 styling, but whoever chose that color with bronze wheels must be color blind 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣
A good overview comparison - thank you.
I bought the Honda, but I would have liked to go with the Toyota instead, if the Toyota dealerships were not charging 5k over MSRP in Florida, my old neighbor lady but a Corolla Cross LE for 50k, that was a crime, I only got charged 1k over MSRP with the Honda, Toyotas are the best but their dealerships are crooks. BTW I'm getting 37mpg in the city, but 43 mpg city with the ford maverick that has very similar Toyota hybrid system which is better but a little louder
How effective is the regenerative braking in the CRV would it be efficient engine braking driving down hill in the mountains?
should have done some mud or mild off road to test the 4 wheel drive systems. isnt that one of the most important reasons people buy an AWD vehicle. people need to know if they are gonna be good for snow or a slippery trail climb if they ever need it
Toyota all day every day long term. Honda makes great motors (Except 1.5L Turbo) but their transmissions are always weaker than Toyota’s. I have owned many Toyota’s and Honda’s to know this. Still own both makes to this day.
Both awesome rides
Why no mention comparing the acceleration of the two? No one is looking to drag race but get up and go is something prospective new car buyers will almost always test when they are shopping.
Because they're very close and adequate for daily driving, which is what most people care about.
@@nicholassmith7048 And you know they're very close and adequate, how? Because they've been tested/demoed by someone. And not everyone has seen the same information you have, which is why it should have been shown. Say what you will, but it is common for an auto reviewer to give at least a seat-of-the-pants acceleration demonstration to the two vehicles they are directly comparing. Extremely common, in fact. Perhaps one jumps right off the line, perhaps one has to be revved high. The lack of it here, with these two dedicated guys, is odd.
The RAV4 marginally, but are you buying the vehicle to take down to the drags.
@@johnmartin7158 No, not to drag race, as I stated in my original comment.
EV Mode: Battery does have to be at a certain level and EV Mode is available up to 25 mph. It will get you up small climbs and that sort of thing, but if you gun it? EV Mode will turn off because you are wanting more power then what EV Mode has to offer. When your driving down the road EV Mode will automatically come on at times when you are cruising at a set speed. This will help discharge and balance out the hybrid battery and give you that nice fuel economy.
I love my Camry Hybrid and EV Mode and the electric motors when you are going down hill that charge the battery on down hills or just driving where the gas motor has taken over to help recharge the hybrid battery is pretty sweet.
Toyota has made a really great system here and they have over 20 years of experience in the EV Market!
Whether you go Toyota or Honda? You cannot go wrong with either one! They are by far the best made vehicles on the market!
I ain't going no where without a spare and last I checked rav 4, 3500lb tow Honda 1500lbs. Win goes to yota.
Rav4 hybrid, 1,750 lbs. CR-V Hybrid, 1,000 lbs. If towing is important to you, You probably shouldn't consider either of these.
The tow rating for the RAV4 Hybrid is 1,750 pounds. That could be easily increased to 3,500 if Toyota gave it the same 245 hp powertrain found in the Highlander and Sienna Hybrids.
I am curious about the back seats when they are down do both lie flat?
So about that manual switch for the regenerative braking of the CR-V; About how many people do you reckon will remember to crank up the mode when going down a mountain? And what would be the percentage of that number will be your typical lady drivers?
Whats the fuel effeciency of CRV? It seems I missed it
I’d wait a year to see how the new Honda Design CVT is. Allot of clutches, pumps, and valve bodies for a “CVT.” Planetary Gear CVT on the Toyota is a Chunk of Granite.
There is no actual CVT on the Honda. What Honda calls "e:CVT" is a misnomer and is simply the bigger electric motor driving the wheels (as you may know electric motors don't require shifting hence EVs don't have shifters). So at low speeds the Honda drives in EV mode, powered by the batteries, and the gasoline engine through the smaller motor, charges the batteries and sends some power to the electric motor. Then at high speeds (where you would normally shift to final gear), it couples the gasoline engine to the drivetrain--so it drives in gasoline mode. This is why Hondas have a strange MPG where highway may be less fuel efficient than city.
I would consider this more robust as it is mechanically simpler. Maybe it's more complex on the computer side.
The gasoline-turbo version does have a real CVT.
Please due your Due Diligence as to the internal components on the CR-V Hybrids internals. The eCVT does indeed contain 2 Clutches for Low and High Speed engagement, and a traditional fluid pump and Valve Body. None of which exist in the Toyota eCVT and it's Planetary Gear Variable Ratio setup. @@gilbs72
Great video Thanks 👍✌️🙏🇨🇦
Man, you did a great Job in Comparison. i am in a dilemma between the two, i was always a Toyota fan, but I cant get one easily so I may go to the Honda.
Honda powertrain can distribute more power to rear from ice?
CR-V reliability has been mixed for a few years now. I'll take the Toyota.
Which has a smoother ride? I’ve always heard that in general, Toyota is meant for cruising so usually smoother, while Honda is more sport and less smooth.
hmm... I am seeing CRV hybrid sport-L (or touring) is about $5000 less than RAV4 Hybrid counterpart. CRV starts to have discount now.
Of course the Honda wins for looks in and out because it’s a new design. However, Toyota’s hybrid game has been proven. I’ve had both - traded 4 month 23 CRV grand touring for a ‘23 RAV4 XSE-best bang for your buck and you get a spare tire, digital rear view mirror, 360° camera and panoramic sunroof for practically the same price (granted you find either vehicle selling at MSRP)
Hey I am confused between rav4 XSE and limited what’s the difference between both of them do you know?
I mean I don’t want to miss important features like collision detection, left-right mirror cameras, autobraking etc
Also does RAV4 XSE has smart feature like the one which Honda has like Honda sense like lane assistant and autobraking etc.
Your insight would be really helpful
I prefer the driving refinement and rear seat room of the Honda. And a few less MPGs has no impact on my finances.
Aren’t these compact cuvs and not midsize? Pilot and Highlander are midsize.
Honda needs to add ventilated seats. It be hot way more than cold where I’m at.
I have 2024 honda CR V Hybrid. I strongly recommend to buy Toyota Rav 4 is the best one for this segment
Not a fair comparison. The Honda CRV was recently redesigned where the RAV4 is 5 years old. There will be a new redesigned RAV4 next year in 2024. I have no doubt the new RAV4 will be much better.
Some trusted sources say that no redesign for RAV4 until 2026.
Rav 4 - hybrid towing capacity is 1750 vs Honda 1500 lbs, More horses on the Rav. Spare tire on the RAV while Honda has none. Hybrid battery on Rav is back seat while Honda is under the cargo area. Also the ECVt on the Toyota is superior on the trans side. Toyota is the winner
I like the CRV if it is not too $$. $8k talk’s to me. I’ll need to drive each one. I’m 78 now, & quietness sounds good!
The RAV4, styling-wise is a little funky and getting a bit dated looking whereas the redesign of the CRV is very fresh, modern and tied down. Hoping the next gen of the RAV adopts some of the new Land Cruiser look. I like that the RAV hybrid is available in more and cheaper trims….Honda needs to up its game here. Not really digging that Woodland colour or bronze wheels. Kind of a toss up at this point….lets see what the next gen RAV brings to the table.
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Very difficult decision to pick a winner. 🤔
RAV4 - 6 month delivery
CRV - STOCK
I love my 2024 Honda Touring Hybrid. It's about time Toyota does an upgrade. Test drove it first and felt it didn't hold a candle to the CRV in my opinion. One big complaint with the Rav 4 is cabin noise. When people have to go buy weather stripping to install around their doors to cut the noise down, that's a huge no from me. I get 42 mpg on my CRV and all the comfort and style to go with the great mileage. I had a Corolla before this so I am very familiar with Toyota.
Great review and comparison as always. Only I recommend to learn more about Toyota hybrid. What you explained about the hybrid system Rav4 using is different than some other Toyota models such as Prius or Crown and Tundra. What you mentioned is just half of the story. There is actually 2 additional electric motors located in the gearbox.
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All Toyota hybrids use two motor-generators, called MG1 and MG2, in the transaxle. ("Gearbox" can be ambiguous - the CR-V can be described as not having one.) It is basically the same in all models. The P610 in the previous Prius has *_different_* motors than the P710 in the RAV4, but not more. See ua-cam.com/video/O61WihMRdjM/v-deo.html.
The AWD versions add a third motor on the rear wheels. Which is all that was said about them, AFAICT.
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Respectfully, they are different and they behave differently. It's not just about electric motors they use. Trucks are completely different than SUVs and sedans are different but as you mentioned more similar but still very different from batteries chemistry and size to power distribution.
@@ardalandanesh I'm not sure what differences you refer to. First, the RAV4 is a glorified car, not a truck, and behaves more like a car than a truck. It is built on the same TNGA-K (GA-K) platform that the Camry uses. But what I was specifically commenting on was the transaxle, not how it is used differently in a compact SUV. Specifically, where you said "There is actually 2 additional electric motors located in the gearbox."
In the video I linked to (and you repeated for some reason), Prof. Kelly actually says, at 0:23, "Today we are going to talk about the transaxle. The hybrid transaxle that comes in the 2019 and above Toyota RAV4 hybrid. So this transaxle is called the p710 transaxle and it is just a little bit larger version of the p610 transaxle that comes in the 2016 and above Toyota Prius." That's what I meant by "basically the same in all models."
At 1:56 he says "This transaxle has two electric motors." That's the same as the Prius. No "2 additional" ones.
At 32:42 he describes what is larger: "There are three different transaxles in this series, that look very much alike. There's the P610 that's in the Prius, the P710 that we're looking at right now, and then the P810 that comes in the the RAV4 Prime. ... By comparison the P610 in the Prius has [an MG1] rotor (with the) same diameter, but it's 24.3 millimeters thinner. The (MG2) rotor ... in the Prius is 10 millimeters thinner than this one."
That's the difference. And maybe some oil pumps, I didn't track that part. So it is the same two motors, with 10 to 25 mm thicker rotors. I did mention that it has one, not two, additional motor in the rear for AWD, but I don't think you can call that in the gearbox.
@@jeffjo8732 by truck I mean Tundra, Tacoma, Hilux, FJ, 4Runner, Sequoia...
Which one of the two vehicles is a quieter ride?
Honda by far.
Toyota all day!!
Crv hybrid for me. Roomier. More attractive etc
Thanks for the review. I am a bigger guy like you and I would like to ask what car you felt more comfortable in the Crv or the RAV4. Thanks.
Hey same situation with me, btw which one did you take then?
@@nilaypatel3069 got a Lexus tx
Bro that touring hybrid is more than 40K. Why we dont get a lexus or MDX
8k is a big difference. RAV4 for me.
It's only $8k difference for the two models they happened to show. It's not like CRVs all cost eight grand more.
Six month wait in Ontario, Canada for a 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid .
Nice review.In actual fuel economy the Honda isn't
even close to the Toyota and in Canada the money you save buying the
Toyota you can take a family of 4 to Hawaii for 1 week.
Only if your tent camping on the beach in Hawaii. LOL
Crv all day. I hate cheap plastic too much squeak noise especially over small road imperfections.
Toyota all day my friend, cause the hybrid system is a solid build better than honda's IMO.
Your prices quoted are out by at least $2000 (too low before taxes) As well IN CANADA the Honda hybrid for 2024 no longer only comes in the just the Touring.
In Canada you can now get yes for 24 not the 2023 you are reviewing a cheaper CRV Hybrid but in the “EX-L trim!”
When reviewers on Canadian channels quote prices I really wish they’d add in the real costs after the PST & GST is included in the pricing.
That 23 Touring Honda Hybrid after all taxes are in comes to $58000. Go figure- pun intended!
Go Ni.
RAV 4 wins. It has a classic automatic transmission.
CR-V has a CVT which is horrible and not nearly as reliable as the classic automatic.
Yeah automatic from Toyota sucks😂 is soft when new but after around 70k miles pulls like shit
I'm usually a fan of your videos. This one not so much. You really skimmed over the engines and the drivetrains. The Honda has a mechanical drivetrain with a standard transmission that will require maintenance. Toyota calling it's tranny a eCVT is a disservice to what it actually is. It has NOTHING in common with a standard CVT and is essentially bulletproof. With proper maintenance it will Outlast the transmission being offered in the Honda and since it has no mechanical drivetrain it will save money on drivetrain maintenance. Also,since the rear motor is a 54 horsepower electric motor it provides MORE instant torque when accelerating than the CRV. The top trim JBL sound system is better than what is offered in the CRV.
I would agree that the interior on a Honda seems a little less utilitarian, but given the drivetrain superiority of the Toyota, if someone is after a taste of luxury A VENZÀ is the right choice. The venza also has a lithium ion which would fare better in cold climates. You should watch the Weber University video on the RAV4 ECVT
Toyota without the smidge of a doubt
Toyota EV mode is only for slow speeds, under 25 easy accelerations, such as in parking lots or city streets with numerous stop signs.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE test the heating and cooling systems on these when you have a chance. I own a CRV and it SUCKS producing heat in the winter. If the toyota is much better at that and I can get the hybrid in a cheaper model.. SOLD!
A very good point. Apparently some Honda engines are so efficient that they generate less waste heat than many others. My daily driver, an Acura, has a Honda K24 engine, and the heater is definitely weak. Honda's current 1.5 turbo has a history of being very slow to warm to the extent it was causing problems. I have no idea about the Toyota though.
RAV4 EV mode is only good up to 25km/ph. Works great in slow moving traffic or parking lots.
It goes much higher than that. Mine goes about 50 km/h in EV mode if I drive lightly. I've seen EV mode stay on up to 80 km/h if it's downhill on the highway.
I prefer the Honda CR-v
Exactly Honda Crv Hybrid
Am i the only one , or the Rav4 seemto have good back up camera quality than the CR-V
Nobody's talking about what kind of batteries
These are not EVs to do a full teardown and show everything, they have 1/50th capacity of a model Y Battery and im not sure if thats such a huge deal
Crv transmission has valve bodies and clutches. The rav4 doesn't. This means crv has more parts to wear. Crv wins in the road noise department.
Toyota awd and hybrid is best.
For most people I’d agree though the mechanical AWD system in the Honda may be beneficial for some who need a bit more out of their AWD system.
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I have rav4 hybrid and my average is 45mpg
EV mode on the toyota is only available at speeds under 25mph. Fiance has a venza and it also has an EV mode. Unsure on the battery charge requirement if there is one
Honda
Morning TK
No spare tire? That's kind of. deal breaker, otherwise I'd choose Honda
You don’t use spare tire
Both are great but Toyota has edge.
CR-V
Rav4 all the way.
With no starter, no clutches (the Honda has two), and no alternator, the Toyota Hybrid system is a generation ahead of Honda. It should be more reliable and have a higher long-term resale value.
I wanted a hybrid and it was between the RAV4, Corolla Cross, and CRV. Ultimately I chose the CRV because I drive a lot and the bells and whistles provided comfort that I value. The guy in the video mentioned the bells and whistles aren’t worth $8k and I agree, so I haggled enough to push my price way down. I told them it was between the CRV and RAV4. Considering Toyotas are selling like hot cakes, I took advantage of this at the Honda dealership. I’ve had my CRV for 3 months and so far no regrets 👍🏻
Also to add - I drove a Honda Accord for 12 years and it had 270k miles on it when I recently sold it, at that point it needed about $5k to run smoothly again but I decided it was time for me to get a newer car. Didn’t need to, I could’ve just repaired it, but I was ready for an updated vehicle. I felt confident getting another Honda based on my long term experience.