Failed! 2857 grinds to a halt, unable to release the train brakes.
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
- The story of what happened one afternoon when GWR 2-8-0 2857 caused disruption to the Severn Valley Railway timetable on 16/09/13 by being unable to release the train brakes. Due to leave Kidderminster on the 12:20 departure with the LNER teak rake, 2857 found it was unable to move the train. The first coach was suspected to be preventing the train brakes from being released and was removed, but 2857 again couldn't move the train, and so 2857 took over the LMS rake that had arrived behind Erlstoke Manor. (The 12:20 was due to cross this train at Arley but the first shot shows Erlstoke Manor as it calls at Bewdley still without having crossed the expected service).
2857 still struggled to move the LMS rake, but eventually got under way about 55 minutes late.
The train ran ok until brakes were applied to slow the train to go into platform 1 at Bewdley. The engine was unable to release the train brakes and ground to a halt straddling the turnout from the single track into the line for platform 1. On the video you can see railway staff on the ground checking the brakes on engine and train.
After around 20 minutes 2857 managed to drag the train into the platform where the service was terminated. With platform 1 out of use due the failure, platform 2 was also taken out of use to protect the fitters working around the engine.
With services in both directions already disrupted, all trains now had to use platform 3 while the fitters tried to work out why the brakes could be released on the engine, but it could not release the brakes on the train. Even the hand-propelled truck pushed by the gangers had to use platform 3, followed by class 50 'Hood'.
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I was the second man on the 50 that day, you can see me checking the train as we departed with the up train. The issue was that the flexiable rubber vacuum pipe between the engine and tender had collapsed, there by, effectivly sealing its self off, meaning only the brake on the engine was comming off. Incidently, the 50 was covering for a failed class 20, and I was covering the second man's turn as no one was available, I should have been guarding a pre-gala goods move, which didn't happen in the end until the next day, and using steam traction!
3:55 Some boys have a conversation on the platform..... boy 1 "Look! there's a new tank engine." boy 2 "Oh, it's only Erlestoke Manor back to front."
Great video just shows how BR worked it may have been late but it arrived safely
On a positive note - the effectiveness and SAFETY of vacuum braking is illustrated here !
Fail safe demonstrated to work - I'd much rather be a passenger ( or crew member ) on a train where the braking system worked as it should, despite the ' inconvenience ' !
People need to remember this aspect (no pun intended) when using any rail transport.
Shows how powerful that engine is, dragging her feet in.
Got any bootlaces handy?
A Most enjoyable sequence. Many thanks for sharing. '-)
Always used to call them "Back to Front Engines" when I was a little boy.
I am just smiling and happy seeing some steam engines still running here :D what type of whistles do these beauty's have?
"Loco failure!" ... loco en la CABEZA, at least the brakes failed the SAFE WAY, and didn't let the train run away off down some hill with no brakes at all
Its all going on here, the event of the day :) maybe its the 2-8-0 being awkward because it doesnt want to pull passanger stock as it was designed for freight
Nicely captured sequence! Would be nice to know the cause! You didn't capture D444 in 2004 braking down mid route with me on board for my 40th birthday drivers experience? No? Shame, bet that caused a few headaches for a few minutes - just after Arley got an airlock in the fuel pumps on a single track stretch - all had to be hand primed in no small temp! The instructors were great! Was very scary seeing the dials go crazy and the engine rev! Cheers!
Sir Toppum Hat was very cross. "Henry, you have caused confusion and delay, you are not a very useful engine! All the children at the station cried...you Brits crack me up!
Interlink Plus It's James. Not Henry.
+Interlink Plus James has this happen from time to time, not Henry. Jammed brakes is a thing, and then they get Percy to push the train- right into a switch failure.
+Interlink Plus hey, man! Sacred cow alert! Anyway, T the TE knocks twelve bells out of Casey Jones. Tooot tooooot, said Thomas.
Nah, Casey Jones the loco off of Dumbo.
@@SonicDashie759 No its not James class was all scrapped I'm afraid same as Edwards
So does this count as the "Great Western Way" or the "Wrong Way"?
Lner= better
+Toms Daily Vlogs LMS = The best :)
GWR= "Gods Worst Railway" lol
said nobody ever
I was quoting my friend.
How did it even Get stuck?
I bought shares in 2857 back in 1971. I want my money back! I still have a letter from Paul Burns somewhere.
+NickRatnieks It wasn't 2857's fault from the sound of it, the problem was with the coaches.
On preserved Railways...these things are sent to try us..!
Had somebody been messing about and pulled the communication cord for a laugh ?
Pull the brake release chains?
A great deal of chaos, a real nightmare!
1:33 Yeah you can clearly see something was wrong
Huh? It used platform 3 for once?
These things are set out to try us. At least Erlestoke Manor didn't have any problems.
I spy with my little eyes the ever resourceful Phil Brown in this video, (regular worker and volunteer at the ffestiniog railway)
#2857's pneumatics failing to release the train brakes when the locomotive's own brakes work as advertised? Sounds as though the locomotive may have had some junk in a release pipe, and/or a broken recharge valve (assuming the train is equipped with Westinghouse-style brakes, either tread or disc). Where exactly was the failure?
Brakes are vacuum. No pneumatics involved.
+B. C. Schmerker You can hear the engine's brake pump working overtime too. One of the coaches must have had a vacuum leak in it that kept the rest of the train from reaching operating pressure.
A diesel wouldn't care, it would just drag the coach along unwillingly till the brake shoes were burnt right off. But a historic steam engine is usually handled much more gently, and the crew would notice when a coach was uncooperative.
This is all British rolling stock as well, so Vacuum brakes instead of pressure brakes like American railways use.
cool! I could be an apprentice there soon, if there is a space.
heelfan1234 why would they do that?
Wow but they are preserved machines that are part of history if they were mainline service then yes scrap but just a small line they are the least of our worries
History is dying :(
heelfan1234 Aaah yes, heelfan! Trolling your declared hatred of anything older than you are on here as well? What a sad little non-entity you are!
+heelfan1234 give up on the scrapping issue please, it's old and boring. Also to throw a spanner in your master plan to rid the world of steam the P2 group are currently engaged in the construction of another fine example of steam.
And there's me thinking the train had shit itself.
3:37 wrong way to get off a loco
Such beauty
2857 will be amazing just you wait
Guatemala legend 204
Nice steam trains
poor henry has brake release problems
Henry is an LMS Black 5
"Turnout" :/
there was more work done when she got back to bridgnorth
Heelfan why would we scrap some of the locos and how is it health and safety
And so The GWR failed as usual even on a preserved line.(not the manor but the 28xx)
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The reason why it did this is because the brakes broke and the brakes wouldn't come off