I got called a 'guiri'. Should I be offended?
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- In this vlog I talk about the word 'guiri' and how it is used in Spain. 'Guiri' is a mainly pejorative term used by the Spanish to describe European and North American tourists and fair-skinned people in general.
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I live near Barcelona, a high tourist destination, with lots of 'guiris'. The word 'guiri' is neither good or bad per se. The thing is, many tourists here misbehave and cause lots of inconveniences to the locals, so that's why you may hear the word 'guiri' in a derogatory manner.
I am spanish and and I have always used the word "guiri" as a synonymous of "extranjero" (foreigner), mainly those of northern europe or english-like roots. The bad connotation can be given to any word or any apellative. But guiri is a slang word to say foreigner, nothing more.
I would say the way the word is usually used is closer to "white tourist from northern europe or north america". And with a slight negative connotation. Like calling someone a tourist, implying lack of knowledge about the culture or customs.
Jaime Gp In Algeria, we also call westerners Gawri For the same matter I think it’s so close and it has the same meaning but nothing bad or pejorative
In America's, people use "gringo". What do you call refugees?
@@d_n_1589 Which tends to be the truth. We are quite fed up of people saying that they love Spain when in reality they only love the weather and the beach, and cannot even say basic words in Spanish even after living in their British ghettos for decades. Many would actually mean we love Spain but there are too many Spanish. If anybody is offended by this, then they might want to change so this is no longer applicable, me thinks.
@@rollosinternet1853 Exactly my thoughts, Rollos. Oh yes, they love Spain for the cheap booze, cigarettes and sun. I know so many who live here for 20 plus years and can barely order their wine. They MUST have their enclaves and have zero interest in the culture or people. It is SO much the norm, that when I meet a Brit who speaks Spanish fairly well and has traveled around Spain because they truly love it...they stand out and hats off to them. But they are rare indeed.
Lo diré en español,por si alguien se anima. Ni "guiri" lo decimos para ridiculizar ni "moro" para discriminar ,son expresiones coloquiales,nada mas.
"Morito" is always used in a derogatory manner.
El significado de una palabra, normalmente se entiende por su contexto... si se presta atención al resto de palabras en la misma frase que guiri o moro, se sabrá que significado tienen dichas palabras en ese preciso momento.
depende del contexto, tal como indica Stuart. Guiri tiene la doble vertiente.
@ Depende del contexto, tienes que mirar la entonación sobre todo, si conoces a esa persona... Pero en general es como decir "preciosa" a una mujer sin venir a cuento en una situación laboral, y se sigue haciendo. Pero moro se usa en general, no es despectivo sino que localiza una zona de procedencia, como usamos otras.
I'm a British guy, have been living in Cádiz for a couple of years now. I work at a school, and my colleagues always affectionately call me Guiri. I don't act or dress like the kind of tourists you'd find in Costa del Sol, for example.
But when a British friend of mine came to visit, he came in a full guiri costume... flip flops, a vest, pink skin. So when we were walking down an urban street, I heard people shouting Guiri at him.
And that, for me, is the difference. Great video!
As a Scottish I've often been called a Jock. Usually it's ok, but it can also be used aggressively. Depends on how it's being used. It's in the tone of voice.
But like any insult just shrug it off.
boomer rob Exacto, depende del tono de voz, de la entonación, actitud.....puede ser “ friendly “ o agresiva apelación! Generalmente se dice en tono de buen humor, de buen rollo!
Shrug off... depends on the context.
@@JackR772 you not responsible for history .. apologize for your countries crimes in that case and forget about it.
Every simple word depends on the context .
I get more offended being called 'americano' by gf's uncle. I'd rather he'd call me 'guiri' unless he's just been asking me for a coffee everytime 😂
ok americano
It's oppression Olympics time already? The word guiri is as derogatory as the word 'dude' in English.
Guiri will never be in a bad way, man. It's used to refer to the foreigners, mainly westerners or those so "whitty" people who turn pink color after taking the sun. I've been living in Thailand, and Thais use the word "farang" in the same way. Don't think badly about the word guiri if someone refers to you with that, it will never been told in a negative manner. There are many Spanish words that only Spanish people know the meaning, just by feeling. Hope you be enjoying here :)
It is used in a bad way and I've had it used in a bad way against me. We live in a international world and referring to 'foreigners' in a derogatory way is no longer acceptable.
@@welshtoro3256 cry somewere alse snowflake
@@lordkeiser Why should I cry somewhere else? Do you have something to add to the original question? Do you think I'm a snowflake because I think it's socially acceptable to be rude to strangers?
@@welshtoro3256 u dont know what guiri means u dont know spain or ure a snowflake chose cause guiri is not ofensive at all but hey keep going,lke the video says guiri means nothing but northern euro foreigner usually very white nothing more
@@lordkeiser Okay we have to learn to respectfully disagree. I come from Wales (Gales) and I've been involved with Spain for 40 years. I've been married to a Spaniard for 23 years. I was married in Bilbao where I have family and my extended family lives in Valladolid. My Spanish home is in a small pueblo in the Axarquia in Andalusia. My wife and I are academics and we have travelled throughout Spain, a country I love. We are not Guiris and I'm no snowflake my friend, believe me. Take it from me, I know and understand Spain very well indeed. It's not nice to call foreign people names, especially because of the colour of their skin. In most parts of the civilised world that's considered racist - "nothing more."
I was once called a guiri by a Spanish woman. I don't think she meant to cause offence and none was taken. However, her friend took her to task telling her she shouldn't have said that. So, even among Spanish people there are differences of opinion about its use.
A lot of spanish people will say it just means foreigner, but when digging a bit deeper it becomes clear that what it really means is a white person from northern europe or north america. One would never call a black person from africa guiri. And often a non-white person will hear that they don't "look" like a guiri.
The same way older people in Sweden will insist using the "n-word" in swedish is not derrogatory. They are simply not aware or conscious of it.
I would say guiri is derrogatory in the same sense as the word "tourist" and is often used to imply the person is not very knowledgeable about the customs or maybe even disrespecting/exploiting the culture.
In a way I get it. Spain has a lot of tourism from these countries (and the tourists often has more economic power being that Spain is still suffering from the economic crisis), and not all of them are behaving well.
Most people don't mean any harm with it, and I usually just challenge people in a playful manner when they use it. "A guiri, so a person like me?". This usually makes the person a bit nervous that I'm offended which shows me they weren't exactly using it with a positive meaning in mind. I don't take offense though, I just laugh it off.
But I don't think words like these are very productive, and can actually lead to a form of dehumanization and bad stuff happening. Graffiti like "Guiri go home" or attituded like "guiris come and take our apartmentments" (which is a problem btw) can quickly escalate to things like tourist busses getting attacked (like what happened in barcelona) and other nasty things.
The word. . Guiri is exactly foreigner, It isn't offensive
Not exactly, you wouldn't call a black person from africa guiri.
@@d_n_1589 that is true, the african people are not guiri , nor Asian people.
@@joseluisgalan9238, nor the Portuguese, nor the Latinos.
I’ ve been here in Spain for many years. At first, when people called me “guiri” I really hated it. The word made me feel like they were not accepting me despite my efforts. I also noticed how they would laugh when they said the word. I think that Spaniards might want to bear this in mind. The problem is that any equivalent word in English is racist.
Los guiris en los años 90 s son los que iban a la playa con chanclas y calcetines hasta la rodilla , creo que tú no eres guiri.
Borja De la Reina Pues imagina en los ‘80....entonces ya se decía!
@@iber4356 pero nosotros tampoco lo hacíamos bien ; porque ponerte la camiseta después de un día de playa 🏖 y notar 500 agujitas en la espalda no era ni medio normal 😂. Entonces pensábamos que la crema solar 🧴 era para bebés, albinos y delicaditos! Y es muy importante el tono de piel, en mi familia, de tres hermanos, tras tomar el sol ☀️: mi hermana, morena; yo, colorao; mi hermano, eritema intenso con pequeñas ampollas!
It's interesting how the english speaking countries give so much importance to words. As you say, spanish people say things like guiri, or moro, or chino all the time, but we don't load it with such a negative and powerful connotation. It's just a word and nobody thinks twice about it, but the english language is full of forbidden words that no one should say ever. It''s just a cultural difference, I guess.
FattusMaximos I have been accused of being insulting by a spaniard for using the word ‘Spaniard’ when referring to a spaniard. He said it was derogatory and got all upset. I’ve never heard such nonsense in all my life, so speak for yourself Fattus you don’t represent everyone
@@JackR772 No, I don't, but I was talking in a general sense. Of course you'll find all kinds of people, but I struggle to think of any "forbidden" words in Spanish like you have in english. For example: it's common in english to refer to a certain word as the "n-word", because you're not supposed to say it ever and even some famous people have seen their career truncated because they said it in a private context and someone recorded it, and even if i write it in this comment I would probably get moderated and the comment deleted. At this moment in time that would be unthinkable in the Spanish society, and you'll hear people in the street saying "negro" or "negrata" all the time without consecuence because usually there's not such a heavy meaning. You can think they're all racists and bigots and probably some of them are, but that's just not the general way those words are used and you shouldn't assume they mean it in a harmful way.
FattusMaximos You are right, although words aren’t exactly forbidden, if you use them you will be labelled a racist. Political correctness has a big voice in the english speaking world and things just seem to be going from bad to worse. Most of this comes from America imo but all major english speaking countries are multicultural in a big way. Its not usually the British for example that have a problem, its the foreigner that gets called an insulting word and reports you to the police. I am not going to be offended by anybody using the n-word but black people will, even though they can use the word themselves! It is as ridiculous as it sounds
what's the correct word to call somebody from china if not "chino"?
@@JackR772 In Spanish we call french with the derogative term "franchute", that's why some Spaniards may think Spaniard (instead of Spanish) is a derogative term as wel. It happened to me.
In Spain we have many slang words to refer to types of Spaniards that are much more pejorative than guiri (if Guiri is pejorative I doubt it). For example:
Someone who reproduces the stereotypes of the Spaniards in a somewhat exaggerated and ridiculous way: "cañí".
A young person without culture, vulgar and somewhat rude: "cani, calorro, choni (for girls), pligonero, barriovajero ...".
An asshole with a lot of money that also boasts a more or less subtle form of it: "pijo" (posh).
Someone from the countryside a bit rough: "cateto o garrulo ".
Someone snobbish who claims to know a lot and have read a lot: "culturetas".
Someone presumptuous and arrogant "un chulo, o un chulo perdonavidas, o un perdonavidas (something like spare-lifes)."
Someone who boasts things that are not true: "fantasma (ghost)".
Unreliable person, which you can not trust: "trápala, golfo, vendehumos (smoke-sales), un pillo, un listo (in its most pellorativa meaning) ..." .
An indiscreet person when speaking "bocazas (bigmouth), bocachancla (flip-flop mouth) ...".
Person who speaks or acts putting others in an unpleasent or awkward situation "un notas, un gambas".
Person who tries (or even manages to) convince others of his ideas in a way too insistent and often irritating: "comeollas (eater-heads, "olla" or pot is head in spanish slang), cometarros, comeorejas (eater-ears) ...etc"
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And a long etc.
Almost every time we think of those kinds of words we are thinking of compatriots, not foreigners or "guiris".
We don't really have a negative perception of foreigners, we tend to be more critical of ourselves.
Sometimes we find it a bit funny to see someone with a Hawaiian shirt, shorts, socks with flip flops who looks absolutly forgetful. And then the word "guiri" takes a comic meaning, but it doesn't go beyond that.
Isn’t “wog” a fairly common word in Australia, used to describe Mediterranean people from Spain, Greece and Italy.
Hair Transplant Network I lived in Oz for many years, the Greeks and Italians find the word wog insulting and it is, it comes from the word gollywog , but I told my Greek friends it means WESTERN ORIENTAL GENTLEMAN lol.
I was told by a Spaniard that ‘guiri’ is a borderline offensive word. Draw your own conclusions.
Hi sir, a Spaniard here, just want to let you know that I have used the word guiri before but never with negative intent. In the nort east, in Costa Brava (Blanes, Lloret de Mar, etc... and up) we get a lot of people in the summer from Holland, Germany, England, France, Croatia and other northern countries and yea peop5 may refer to them as guiris but its more of a coloquial term for tourist that just come to the beach, they do not do much tourism I would say. We love all the fellow europeans to come over in June, July and August they are the bread and butter of the coastal cities that are quite dead during the rest of the year.
Remember intent and entonation is everything since people in Spain call each other very bad things without meaning the bad thing if you know what I mean....I would not consider the term guiri as hate speech "now if someone tells you go back where u came from guiri piece of shit" that is a different story.
Guiri!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍👍👍
Classic, sounds like a traditional head piece from Northern reaches of Pakistan! Or a delicacy made by Eskimos!
It's just a word... Isn't it funny how someone can take offence with a sound. In NZ we have moved beyond names that describe social differences and now we can't even describe difference of sex/gender. People now take offence at being classed as male when born with a Penis! Or female when born with a Vagina!
Now you can classify yourself on legal documents as 'OTHER', and no one can refer to you as a guy or girl without getting in trouble. You can have dark skin and claim to be white if you want, anyone else says different, you can take offence. There are even new xatagories of sexual preference.
Point being its all crazy!!!
Words are Words, people should be able to express themselves how they see fit without fear of offence.
What's even more bizzare is its driven by a generation that grew up on SOUTH PARK and the likes.
Guiri is a great sounding word. I think should I be in Spain I may get myself a Tee Shirt made with Guiri printed on it in big letters.....
GUIRI FROM DOWN UNDER. 😉😁😎😜
After 8 years living in Spain I’ve had to listen to that word a lot and 99% of the time it doesn’t bother me. I don’t have a Mediterranean complexion and I don’t live in a massive city like Madrid or BCN - it is therefore unavoidable haha!
I lived in Paraguay for 2 years and there they use mix of Spanish and guarani to speak. They got this word in guarani "kurepí" ( and kurepa for women) it means skin of pig, and they use it to call white people, specially Argentinean people.
Even tho I wasn't the whitest person in the classroom, there were some brothers with descendant from Danish people blonde and blue eyes but born in Paraguay, so as the only one from Buenos Aires they called me kurepa. I had 2 options or get offended by the meaning of the word and denotations of it or accept it as they seem to come without real malice. The people were nice to me and they didn't meant any harm so I took the 2nd option.
I live 13 years in Greece and my neighbours still call me η ξένη ( I xeni) the foreigner, and I find that more insulting than giri or kurepí could be.
Question, what name did you have for Greeks?
Guiri is a general colloquial word. It can be used either bad, good and neutral ways, depending of the person and the context. It's like a word that include all Northern and Western Europeans (very white skin, blonds...) under the same short word.
Same happens with moro. It sounds really colloquial. Instead of it you can say magrebí but sounds so... posh and brown-noser?
Moro tiene connotación negativa. Marroquies, magrebies, etc... sería lo adecuado. Moro tiene algo negativo aunque a veces puede usarse de manera neutral pero no son muchas las veces que tiene este sentido neutral (en mi opinión).
We lived in a pueblo outside of Sevilla for 3 years and I was the Guiri friend, they would use it when they would introduce me to new people i hadn't met before. I was never offend by it as it was a term of love from my friends not hate. Now my husband that is from Mexico had a bit more noses turned down at him as some Spaniards look down at people from Latin America, even though my husband spoke perfect Spanish his accent was different so they knew he was not a Spaniard and her was called a few names but I don't remember what they were, he just told me they were bad.
@@pedrofmc0000 What about guero. Is that used at Spaniards too?
@@AntoineM1312 As far as know, no. I think it's used only in México.
Hi Stuart, it's just a case of sticks and stones. More importantly, what type of coffee was that? How do you ask for it in Spanish?
Donde has grabado eso? Parece mi barrio
Where abouts are you in spain stu.your road looks nice
I like my grandmother's reaction to perceived insults. She always said you could call her anything but don't ever call her late for dinner.😉
If you say "guiri de m*****", the insult is not guiri but m*****
Sergio Lorenzi guiri también puede tener la connotación de “tonto” “Primo” o directamente fácil de engañar o timar
Very interesting to read the different opinions on this word, especially from Spanish people's points of view. It seems to be an affectionate word taken in the right context. However, as a foreigner who has lived in Spain and travels there regularly, I have to admit that I have taken great offence at how the word guiri has been used by passers-by to describe me, (usually followed by laughter) as though I am an oddity for having pale skin. I will say that this has upset me in my younger years as I would not like to be so pass remarkable and make comments on people's appearances. That's that off my chest after all these years - I will sleep better tonightl! 😄
Totally agree Poppy. It's offensive and out of date. My Spanish nephew says it and I want to give him a slap. It's racist, that's all there is to say.
Good on ‘ ya mate! I often watch your videos and believe you me I know how you feel. My parents and the family migrated to Australia in the ‘70s. I am originally from Uruguay, and back in my childhood we used to call all Spanish people ‘gallegos’ (the word ‘gringo’ described Anglo-Americans).It was embarrassing. Nevertheless, as a foreigner I learned that in every country in the world there is suspicion and disregard for weird people. Do you remember Nino Cullota’s ‘They are all a weird mob’ ? In 40 years in Australia I was once called ‘wog’ by a beautiful Aussie girl probably for staring too long. Yet another friend of mine went to Spain as a tourist and the Spanish used to call him ‘sudaca’. As you know Columbus called us ‘indians’, then the French ‘latinos’. Proud to be now a new Australian!!! She’ ll be right.
The world "guiri" comes from the carlist wars in the XIX century. in the basque Country and Navarre, carlist zones, the basque-speaker soldiers pronounced badly the world "cristinos", which were the opposite side in the war, they said "guiristinos", and shortening the world, "guiri". But its pejorative sense depends nowadays from the context.
I get what you mean about the way that a word is used being important. I remember in basic training my Drill Sergeant referring to us as trainees. Technically that's exactly what we were, the Drill Sergeant, however, could make 'trainee' sound like a cuss-word. He could also make it sound like a pat on the back. It all depended on how he said it.
Hola. Hace tiempo que estoy suscrito a su canal. Como español le digo que a estas alturas es usted más español que los españoles. Por esa razón creo que ya sabrá usted la costumbre muy española (bonita o fea, divertida o irritante; eso lo dejo al gusto) de poner motes (apodos, nicks) a todo lo que nos parece "diferente", ya sean personas, animales o cosas. Seguro que sabe que los canarios nos llaman "godos" a los peninsulares. Esto, al igual que "guiri", podría sonar despectivo o afectivo, dependiendo de quién venga y en qué tono. ;-)
Me encanta su canal. Un fuerte abrazo.
I don't think there is an equivalent word in Portugal for the Northern Europeans who live here. At least in all my years I have never heard anything. In Brazil people with light skin are called "galegos", apparently because the immigrants from Galicia were lighter in complexion than the locals. On my basketball team (veterans) I was "o Americano" and we had a "Neguinho" (little blackie), a "Negão"(big Black), and even a "Japão", one player who had oriental features. There was no such thing as political correctness then.
Ray Vogensen That’s a misconception about Gallegos. I’ve seen fair skinned Spaniards from all parts of the country. To me,it’s total BS.
@@coffermartin77 I didn't say it was necessarily true. You have to remember that most of the Spanish immigrants who arrived in Brazil were in fact from Galicia. They soon dominated the hotel industry in Rio while the Portuguese became prominent in the baker's and butcher's sector. Yes, there are fair-skinned Spanish from all parts of the country.
This coffee looks delicious!
haven't been called a guiri in three years here in Mérida, when I lived in Latin America I got called a gringo lots but I look reasonably Spanish. I get called English and occasionally Portuguese when they don't recognise my accent; interesting video.
I would have to say Australia is one of the better countries in the world but I also have to admit that Australia is one of the most racist countries, I have lost count of all the fights I had at school in Geelong, Victoria. Over words like WOGE, DAGO!!!
To this day I still get called a WOGE and a DAGO In Australia. Trust me Guiri is NO way as offensive as the word they still use today for immigrants into Australia.
Thank you for reading.
As a Spaniard, I think you are wrong about the meaning of "guiri" Spanish word. It's often used as a synonymous of foreign person, mainly when we talk about people coming from northern Europe. It's just a short description, used by Spaniards in street conversations. Bat it's never used pejoratively.
SI, es una grave falta de respeto, incluso quien argumenta usarlo por error guarda algún sentimiento desagradable hacia ti. No permitas que la gente te llame guiri, NO ES CARIÑOSO (excepto si te lo dice algún amigo muy cercano que puede que solo lo haga para bromear).
Detecto traumitas aquí, ¿Cómo va a ser una grave falta de respeto? en todo caso si va con un adjetivo despectivo, y no se si habría de ser calificada de grave aún así.
I´m spaniard, and I think the meaning of guiri is quite simple, it´s a shortest way to say "extranjero" (foreign), normally in a touristical context, although it´s true that it is used mostly to call people of anglo-saxon appearance (milky white skin, light colored eyes and hair...), as well as the languages used in these countries, e.g: "un turista me ha preguntado algo en guiri y no le he entendido" (a tourist asked me something in guiri and I didn´t understand).
I here you but don't use the word. It's offensive even if unintentionally so. People in the U.K don't refer to Spaniards with a special word just because they look (or don't look) different.
@@welshtoro3256 maybe that's because we don't colonialized several parts of your countrie every summer (or all year long some where). I don't say that as something bad, I'm just saying that is normal to use some special words in these cases. And you know, I was at Galway learning english when I was a kid and I lived a day called "spanish hunt", wich was celebrated every summer, so maybe to call guiri someone is not so bad..
@@arbolgenealogico I don't want to get into an argument with you and that wasn't the intention of my comment. The fact that you think that visitors that love your country and want to enjoy a holiday there and spend money that helps pay local wages are "colonisers" says something. My Spanish wife also went to Ireland to learn English as a kid so we have something in common. These days jokes about the Irish are unacceptable. I'm a Welshman and live in England and I sometimes here offensive comments about the Welsh. It's equally unacceptable to say offensive things about Spaniards. Listen, when you were a kid in Galway you didn't like it. I'm not Spanish but I've been involved with Spain for 40 years, I have Spanish wife and family and a house in Spain and I don't like being called a 'Guiri'. I understand that there are foreign tourists that we don't all like but it is unfair and disrespectful to call people 'Guiri'. Peace my friend. WT
@@welshtoro3256 guiri is a word use to name a foreign (not only, but in many cases anglo-saxons, like brittains, but germans, or swedish too) tourist. That's not a name to the english people, I mean, is another (and not very commond) way to name "a tourist". But I respect your point of view, and I (and most of us) never call guiri to someone who can take it as an offensive name, but you know the offensiveness is sometimes in the speaker' words, but sometimes is only in the listener' ears. And you can bet that many brittains or germans or wherever natives that live here and have friendship with spaniards are lovely called guiris and understand the meaning of the word in a propper context. Do you know canary islands? There the locals call the continental spaniards "godos" (goths) and that can be offensive, of course, but most of the times is only a funny local way to name "the other", nothing close to racism or nothing negative. But as I say at the beggining, respect to your oppinion, and excuse my english, many years from those summer days at Galway...
@@welshtoro3256 and when I talk about colonies, is because here are self-called colonies. In the Canary islands, or Valencia, Andalucía or Baleares islands live many foreigners that in 20-30 years don't speak a word in spanish, because they live together, they have native shops, pubs, press, tv's... That's what I call colony, but is not pejorative necesarely..
Spanish here as well. I agree, both words are not necessarily derogatory but they can be, especially with a "de mierda" after or a "puto" before ;D
Moro comes from "maurus" in latin , which means dark skin. It's always been used to refer to people from North Africa since the times of Cervantes.
I also have native Spanish friends that are called "guiris" if they are blonde or very fair skinned. It is also usual that in your group of friends, the person with the eyes a bit slanted gets called "chino" in a playful way
Good video! You obviously have bothered to integrate in Spain and got to know the culture, well done. We love these guiris! : ) Guiri means foreigner, and it has been used since the 60s. Not only tourists, also foreign residents. I would not take it as an insult, I myself have used it in a loving way. White beach tourists, rather than cultural tourists who are far more appreciated, are also called "gambas" (prawns) or "cangrejos" (crabs) when they are stupid enough to get burned in the beach without protection. But we also call this to Spaniards, my brother is pale and burns easily and has been called that, also by me and not always as an insult. But of course if you also hear actual insults together with guiri, then it definitely is pejorative. The tone of voice will help you know the intention behind it. But check if you have done something that is locally considered as non acceptable, remember that you are the foreigner at the end of the day and might have done something wrong, we don´t usually limit ourselves to a tut-tut. Grow a thicker skin, that and Aftersun will help you not being called a gamba and take offense.
The funny thing about beeing spanish looking like a guiri on your own conuntry, is to listen people talking like you can't understand a word.
If I go somewhere turostic in Spain, I look like a 100% guiri. Blonde, tones of freeckles, never tunned, my colour is white or red 😅
Sí que está cogiendo relevancia España internacionalmente cuando hacéis vídeos explicando esto.
3:47 Moro is colloquial but it's true it frequently goes with a negative connotation. With guiri it's different. It'll always depend on the context.
Alfás del Pí is full of foreigners and maybe you met local chavs. 😉 That's probably why you lived that unpleasant experience.
Massive immigration can be difficult to deal with for certain groups of local inhabitants. Even if those immigrants are tourists.
Did you know that Alfás would be one the second biggest Norwegian "colony" outside Norway? There are lots of Brits as well.
I learned something. I had never heard of Alfás del Pí and I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about Spain. But then I am not a big fan of the Benidorm area choosing to travel more in the north than in the south. It is definitely less crowded. Does Colonia Escandinavia get its name from the many Norwegians there?
Don't exageratae man. There are about 10.000 Norwegian living in L'Alfás del Pi. Those numbers don't become that town one of the biggest according to the number of Norwegian inhabitants at all.
www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/aqui-la-tierra/aqui-tierra-porque-noruegos-viven-espana/4075903/
@@pedrofmc0000 can you name any other place outside Norway where 10,000 Norwegians live?
@@alanwhite3154 In the link that I put, they say that L'Alfás del Pí is the second largest Norwegian colony in the world, so, at least there is a city with more Norwegians. In Torrevieja, (province of Alicante too) there is approximately the same number of Norwegians living (64 inhabitants less according to the census). So there are two cities or with more inhabitants or at least with almost the same amount.
epa.com.es/padron/noruegos-en-espana/
epa.com.es/padron/noruegos-en-alicante-alacant/
I would definitely be offended.
In spite of all the comments to the contrary, Spanish people know very well that it's hardly ever used in a positive context.
It's true that Spaniards tend to be very loose in their language.
However, after 17 years living here I have never heard the word used in a positive manner.
I will also add that I think the author is wrong about something: Spain is indeed a very multicultural country currently and also it was in the past (where we carried our civilization to the rest of the world and we integrated everyone)
I'm a "guiri" I love it! Good explanation!
Most people says it with a wink in the eye, that guy need a cookie and a glass of milk
In Marbella and around all area , GUIRI is rich and they have very much respect from us , from ALL US !!!! I LIKE TO BE GUIRI...but I need to wait...
I used to br called in the Uk The word Dago... have anyone heard that word ?
We Australians have a multitude of words we use that are entirely context dependant on whether they are said and/or taken offensively.
Watching other English speakers, from other countries, react when they witness such words or phrases being used can be hilarious.
I am fluent in Italian, and a few of its dialects, and it's no different.
I'm sure that Spanish is similar.
Stick and stones ......
Stuart, a nice place. Hey, well done.
Guiri originally was used by thieves and pickpockets and it seems it came from the Roma languag (what we call "gypsies" in Spain). It meant something like "easy target".
With time it started to be used by all Spaniards.
It always depends on the context and the person using that word.
It's neither a bad word nor a harmless word itself. It'll depend on the context it's used and the intentions of the person using it.
I rarely use it when talking to foreigners, only with Spaniards and only during very colloquial conversations. Because if I used it with foreigners it'd sound too colloquial and even offensive, as you've explained on this video.
Dys Topian Chorizo is a better word for thief.
Guiri no viene del romani, lo usaban los carlistas para referirse a las tropas españolas. Los cristinos , o seguidores de la reina Cristina pasarona ser guirinos y despues guiris
Por extensión pasó a ser usado para referirse a cualquier persona de fuera de las zonas de predominio carlista, Navarra, Euskadi y partes de Aragon y Cataluña fundamentalmente. Se les llamaba guiris a los españoles de fuera de allí, y luego se empezó a usar con cualquier extranjero. Se quedó en el habla popular yterminó por ser utilizado por cualquier español para referirse a los extranjeros
Hello make no mistake the word guiri is just as ofensive as calling them "spics" behind are backs they consider that the way english people sound is ridiculous and to me that is ofensive.
Ive been wanting to address this issue since I was a child,will explain:
I was born in Spain in 73 from british parents and went to school here .Many times my spanish "friends" would talk and mock british people as bad dress sensed,drunks ,violent and saying there just "guiris or putos guiris" right infront of me ,making me feel as if I didnt completaly belong in their circle and when the Falklands War broke out along with the Liverpool/Brussels football incident broke out classmates shuntid me away as if it was my fault.
The truth about some spanish people is that they do prefer britains past enemies such as germans and argentines but they certainly dont say no to our holiday money,investments or music industry.
So.. top& bottom of it all is hidden jealousy .
I on the other hand would never dream of mocking them "spics" But its time English speaking citizens learnt the truth about this matter.
There well and bad behaved people in all nationalities ,final.
España me parece más abierta a otras culturas que los países anglosajones, y eso que vivo en un país anglosajón de hace bastantes años. No se verán edificios como la Alhambra o la Torre del Oro de Sevilla en Australia, Nueva Zelanda o Reino Unido, y sobre todo, que España las considere como propias a pesar de origen al andalusí. España es un país multicultural desde hace siglos y esa multitud de culturas (árabe, cristiana y hebrea) es parte de la cultura española. Claro que hay 4 payasos que serán unos racistas, pero decir que España es menos abierta y multicultural que Nueva Zelanda o Australia, cuando gaste hace poco a las poblaciones indígenas no les daban nada, me parece un poco flipante.
Y la palabra guiri no es un insulto, solo se usa para referirse al turista noreuropeo, ni más, ni menos. Son términos y expresiones que para comprender del todo hay que haber nacido y crecido en el país, como yo aún tras muchos años en el extranjero hay expresiones que me cuesta comprender.
Buen video. En el norte no se usa la palabra guiri, soy de Bilbao y nunca lo hoy decir en mi ciudad. Si he oído decir gabachos a los franceses en Irún en la frontera. Pero de forma coloquial sin ofender. Un saludo.
looks great the zone where you live
i am watching your videos from a long time .
In one video you said spain is having. big number of immigrants so if someone don’t like immigrants he shouldn’t choose spain .
you are also a immigrant how you will defend this?
do you think immigrants hurting spain.
as far i know immigrants helping spanish economy and its a plus for anyone who wants to come here in spain.
thanks 🙏
I completely agree Adil. As a matter of fact Spain needs immigrants to become citizens (not guiri as non-Spanish born people are referred as) because of the calamitous problem of ageing population.
Yes, honest immigrants help the local economy although they don't come for that but for them. The problem is when you get too many immigrants. When a country such as Spain get 6 million of immigrants and has 3 million unemployed people, I think it's not a rational way to govern. And more still if you get all the time unskilled labour people when the unemployed people have exactly those features.
it's depend of what type of immigration. The guy of the video is a positive immigrant, not a conflictive immigrant or a delinquent. Also, it's not the same a inmigrant of a culture more or less similar at the spanish culture that a, for example, a muslim culture that is very different.
Good to know. 🤙🤙💥💥💥🇵🇷
As a half giuiri/Spanish, it is not a bad word. Not the most respectful but not disrespectful either. Spanish and Spaniards in general are less formal than Brits and a bit more in your face. There are worst things that one could be called believe me. Chances are if you are called a Guiri to your face is young-in-cheek and in an endearing manner. Like anything else context, expression and the person set the tone.
"Moro" is kind of a toponymic historical word for people living in northern Africa. It was not a bad or racist word and it is not racist if you are refering just about that. The racism comes because north africa is seen as an inherently bad place (the spanish legend tells us the nation was born after 800 years of wars against people comming from north africa)
My wife calls me a guiri all the time.
Anyone who goes to live in another country has to facilitate a certain amount of hostility from ignorant people it happens everywhere!
In a lot of countries on Latin America. We call people from USA Gringos, but isn't negative or offensive. It is just a nickname
Australia y Nueva Zelanda multicultural? Cuando son dos de los lugares con políticas migratorias más duras del mundo.
MaRaquel Moreno No son duras, son controladas: es decir, que dejan pasar a tanta gente como necesiten. Y si, son países muchísimo mas multiculturales, mira sus porcentajes de ciudadanos nacidos fuera.
This word can be used in a peyorative way as it can be used as a sign of affection. I would say the same goes for a lot of other words: flaco, gordo, chino, negro, etc. while in other languages using these words to describe people would be automatically considered offensive, in Spain it is all about the context. But in my opinion it is not very common that people try to put someone down by calling the person guiri. Most of the time it will be used as an informal way to describe someone as a foreigner, or to make fun of a relative or friend (in an affective way)
PS: after sitting through the whole video, Im really surprised by your conclusions. Basically: these words are offensive but we spaniards dont get it, we use them to segregate people and it will take time to educate us into the right way... wow, I am actually speechless... i love your channel, and your opinions are usually pretty accurate but I think you really missed the point here.
You are no guiri, at least in my view. I think it’s more common towards tourists. That however , doesn’t necessarily mean it’s always an insulting term, although it often is,, certainly when accompanied by adjectives ( great observation btw)
I think that progressive Spaniards are thrilled to know that foreigners want to live there ( I live by in the States) Specially after having spent a huge part of the XX century in the Dark Ages.
I find it humorous when I get addressed in English by strangers when I’m in Spain,, to the point that I go out of my way to wear local or neutral fashion when I’m there,
My Galician roots may have something to do with my guiriesque appearance as well I suppose.
wow! I have never heard the "guiris de mierda" directed to anyone in Alicante -you referenced Alfas del Pi-, and I lived there for many years... That is not common at all, not representative...
Introducing new series: Walking with the guiri / Paseando con el guiri. Someone get that guiri a coffee / Que alguien le traiga un cafe a ese guiri.
So many guiris in Spain, living for so many years and not even able to speak the local languague, they are the negative guiris.
Any little slang word to describe people has a nasty sense, no question about it. They wouldn't dare use a little slang word against someone from Africa or Asia.
I often go to the US , and i know perfectly that in US soil i became a GUIRI!! Hahaha
Guiri is not negative....It describes a funny look of a typical tourist in a beach resort....Moro, I think it´s more negative. They cause more problems, so the word, in most cases is like an insult
Although "guiri" is used to refer to foreigners, I would say it is more limited to identify northern European people, also people of Anglo origins, including Australians. I would never, for example, call French, Italian, Portuguese, Greek people "guiris" because there are cultural similarities to our culture, or Latin Americans for that matter (we have a different name for these). But Norwegians, Swedes, British, German, etc., definitely.
I wonder if the locals want the guiris to go home now ? €€€€€€€€ ?
We always will 😘
Igual que nos llamais spaniards no hay a ofenderse jajajaja
i am Spanish american and my family we use the word guiri we use it to call a non Spanish person.
We Spanish are not going to stop using the word guiri because it is not an insult, it is just our slang to say North European foreigner
My Spanish wife calls me a Guiri (with affection) for the way that I dress whenever we go to Spain.
Guiri can totally be an insult, but I had the advantage I was actively learning to speak Spanish. As such, I owned it and it became a nice ice breaker to say that people needed to speak a little slower and clearer haha.
No. "Guiri" has not bad connotations. It is a simple word to convey many ideas. Do not be misled by the political correctness of the english speaking culture. We are much more easy going and relaxed than that obssesion with words.
@@cinderelladevil1687 We're in agreement mate. "guiri" is a highly contextual word that I have seen used as an insult yet I have also used it in an affectionate way with friends.
@@justcallmefrank I have never heard "guiri" as an insult. If we talk about foreigners in an insulting way we say that some of them are hoolingans, o "barbaros", or other much worse things, like "gabacho" for the french or other terms for the British. I am not denying we may have prejudices against other countries, what I say is that guiri is not an insult. Guiris es un termino simplista, que resume muchas caracteristicas, pero no es peyorativo. La ofensa está en quien lo recibe mal, no en quienes lo utilizamos. Si es usted britanico y le quieren insultar, le aseguro que le dirian una expresion que de verdad le doleria, y que no voy a escribir aquí.
@@cinderelladevil1687 creo que es tu verdad, pero en mi experiencia despues de un año viviendo en Madrid y viajando por España, no es lo mismo para todos los españoles. He oido muchas veces la palabra "guiri" usado en contextos peyorativos, no hacia yo, pero principalmente con gente del Reino Unido o EE.UU. Es una palabra que requiere contexto para entender lo que significa, pero uno de esos contextos es malo. De hecho, fueron como los ejemplos de Stuart. Perdoname por mi español, es muy dificil mantenerlo en Australia jaja
@@justcallmefrank si un español quiere hacer un comentario ofensivo sobre un británico, no le llama guiri. Se lo digo yo que son mis códigos culturales. Guiri es nombre con matiz simpatico que se refiere a un anglosajon que cree que España está para beber alcohol hasta perder el conocimiento y quemarse la piel en la playa. Describe un hecho innegable, porque esos visitantes existen. Si un extranjero pasa a ofendernos les aplicamos otros términos según su lugar de origen, que usted no ha oido.
Su español es bueno. No se preocupe. Un saludo. Y si viene y oye "guiri", piense que casi siempre es un nombre jocoso y cariñoso. For all the guiris in the world, do not take offence if you are called guiri.
I am a proud "Moro" 😄
In the Netherlands we say Mocro
Is it similar to gringo? If so, it's not pejorative.
We spaniards have the ability to use the same swear words for bad or good things, depending on context, like the expression "De puta madre". By itself, can mean different things, just depending on the tone
In Greece they do the same Malaka can mean gilipollas or a term of affection depending the tone and to who they day it.
Nosotros al menos no os atacamos por hablar ingles en España, como hacéis vosotros en Gran Bretaña a españoles por hablar entre nosotros en español. Guiri es el que viene a beber, hacer balconin, molestar, pelearse, armar escándalo, mear en las calles y los portales de las viviendas, que estafan a los hoteles con denuncias falsas de intoxicación, son personas sin educación que dificultan enormemente la convivencia, no se molestan en aprender nada de español aunque viven 20 años en España, a los que tenemos que poner traductores en los hospitales, eso es un Guiri.
I totally agree that those people are arseholes and I loathe them as much as you. I just don't like the term 'Guiri' because that's often used for the good visitors that love and respect your country too
What about gringo?
that's only used in mexico. maybe other southamerican countries.
Well, you can just wear a Great Big Mask now.. 'Pom' used to be as pejorative as the speaker intended - sometimes really contemptible!
The Mexicans have a word for Anglos & it is Gringo....It means an American Anglo, protestant, that only speaks English.....
Guiri is like Gringo in Mexico and Central America.
I am guiri friendly, I think I have created this exprrssion!!
For me. Be called "spaniard" is an offense, I AM SPANISH from Spain!!!
No, I never got called a Guiri when I lived in Spain. Well, if I did I didn't understand what they were saying because I don't speak Spanish. No intiendo, no habla Espanol, solo inglis.
El problema de todo término o idea, es el uso que se le da. Si alguien inventa una palabra, y la introduce en frases con adjetivos peyorativos orientados hacia un receptor de la frase, pues automáticamente, esa nueva palabra, arrastra consigo una serie de términos negativos. La palabra guiri, a mi juicio, es una palabra de libre interpretación que normalmente usamos para describir a alguien que no es autóctono. Y claro está, ser o no ser autóctono, puede ser elevado al extremo, por ejemplo, alguien de madrid llamar guiri a un valenciano, por no ser de madrid... es un ejemplo tonto, lo sé, pero lo que pretendo decir con el mismo, es que la palabra guiri, no es más que una etiqueta que señala, bajo nuestro criterio subjetivo, quién es de qué parte y quién no. En cuanto al término moro, jamás lo he visto u oído como un término positivo, así que, para mí, siempre tiene connotaciones negativas.
Big up us guiris...
Moro is not a pejorative word. It comes from "Mauro" (people of old Roman Mauritania (current Marruecos), indeed you can realize easily it also comes from "Moro-cco". Actually, is the tone of the words what can offend. Anyway most of the people think is offensive nowadays.
As far as I know "Guiri" is used mainly for British but some people use it for any person who looks British, Center or North European. We usually call guiris a special kind of British tourists, very rude, always drunk and mainly young people. There is a big problem in some touristic zones of Spain such as Salou, Magaluf or Ibiza with them.
Of course it's offensive these days. Moro is a term used historically in Spain for every person, regardless of their nation, from Africa and specifically North Africa.
@@welshtoro3256 That's obvious and I've said in my comment. BTW! Moro is ONLY used for two North African countries. Morocco and Algerie. The rest of Africa isn't included at all. And it isn't always offensive, it depends on the context of the conversation. Indeed, there is a saint (Santiago or Saint Jacques)who is still called Santiago Matamoros (killer moors). Don't forget that throughout the last 1,400 years Spain and North Africa were in constant wars. It is something that is deeply rooted in our heritage. It is not only for war but for culture and religion.
FFF Would you call a Moroccan “moro” to his face? You don’t just use guiri for the hooligan tourists either, you use it for all north european tourists, light skinned ‘anglosaxons’ as you strangely like to call us
@@JackR772 Obviously no, it's used between us but not to call those people like that. But it is very used between us and obviously, it's not to offend given that it is said between Spanish people.
It's true I don't live in a famous touristic place for foreign tourists. Maybe on the Mediterranean coast, they do as you say. Have I written the word "Anglo-Saxons" anywhere? I don't remember but... If I had done, would it be wrong or offensive? I've read somewhere "guiri" comes from "guiri-gay" a Spanish word that identifies a "dark language and difficult to understand", according to the RAE, like the one that foreigners speak.
FFF I wasn’t accusing you of anything but spaniards for some reason call angloparlantes ‘anglosajones’ for some reason, much to my amusement. My wife is spanish and she told me a similar story that the word guiri comes from catalan or basque can’t remember
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ademas que no se escribe guiri, se escribe GIRI, porque foneticamente es literal.
p.d.
conozco algun GIRI criado en españa, que ellos mismos aplicar este concepto a los Turistas norteños. en conversaciones coloquiales.
You will always be a foreigner in a foreign country even if you live there for so msny years
I got called guiri as a slur on a video game, from America. lmao had to look it up, the irony tho