This Computer is making Surround Sound AV Receivers and AV Processors obsolete
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2023
- Today we're talking about why this PC is making Surround Sound AV Receivers and Processors obsolete. The Trinnov Altitude 16 is a 20 channel pre-amp processor, based on an Intel PC.
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So it’s $20k just to start with the processor. Then you need to throw in another $20-25k for the matching amplifier. Then you have the rest of the equipment you have to get to complete the setup. This is for someone that has the cash to burn for no other reason, and builds a home theater for the cost of what normal people pay for a whole house with property.
whatchya mean matching i notice random power amps on ebay for a couple hundred or less all the time that are just like mine, and this thing has XLR outs. wouldn't that work fine if i had enough of them? unit cost is wayy too high for me though. im more interested in finding the modules inside it on aliexpress or something and whipping up a custom pc case, but its hard to beat a $40 used receiver from this perspective if youre not in it for bells and whistles and just need surround decoding
while without a doubt not an accessible product, you have to understand that this is legit the most advanced av processor any home theater enthusiast could get, ignoring the proper big dick altitude 32 (roughly 30k usd) with the 48 extension (extra 23k). Trinnov is not audiophile bullshit like Boulder or Bryston or Accuphase or whatever other furniture-fi chain coper brands, they are real acousticians trying to solve problems and extremely avid enjoyers of immersive surround sound.
The Altitude 32 released back in 2014. It's almost a decade old and the only thing that it doesn't have that everyday receivers are starting to get is HDMI 2.1 (OEM issues, it's in planning).
Other than that, it is still the most advanced av processor, it is capable of decoding 34 channels of Atmos and the entire 30.2 DTS X Pro configuration. Even if it didn't have the Optimizer room correction that would make it a literal one-of-a-kind product, but there's more. This is not a product for people who ask whether something like this is worth it.
That short is kick ass I love it 😍😍😍
Dude, that was an amazing presentation and you had me over the top excited. I was all in hook line and sinker...until you dropped that $18,000 price tag. A few years ago, I would have been ordering one by now, but I have twins in college junior year...and that can make $18,000 evaporate in minutes.. Its indeed a better mousetrap, but I remember rpaying $1400 for a Plain Jane Blu ray back in the day. I'm going to hang a while an wait for competition and a price drop, but this is truly the way to go and a game changer. Awesome video, and now I will be obsessed until I get one.
Love the shirt!!!!
What are your thoughts when it comes to what Amps to use?
Outside using the Trinnov Amps, would using my Anthem MCA 525 5ch 225w per channel work well or not??
I'm currently using the Anthem AVM90 and I'm not sure if the switch to Trinnov is worth it.
Thanks for your insight
I just spent $3200 for new Anthem AVM70 and thought that was way too much. But I will say my system sounds better than it ever has since I got it. Trinnov is best right now, no doubt. but I would like to hear it so see if it's worth the price of brand new car. Really too bad they don't make something around $10,000 so more people could afford one.
Been waiting for something like this to come out for almost 20 years now! Ive always wanted to build a pre/proc with a PC & OTS parts. My Technics SH-AC500D circa 1997 still does the job just fine for me though. Atmos is awesome, but im still A OK with my simple 5.1 setup.
Great video!!!! What's the name of that intro song?
Thanks 😊
What miniDSP unit can I buy that can connect to my Simple low cost entry level atmos reciever that will have Dirac and come close to trinov
I have multichannel Hypex amps to power the system
Halo products like these will never make conventional AVR's obsolete.
All this is pre processor is, is off the shelf computer components with a couple custom daughter boards for intputs/outputs, dap chips and some custom kernel of Linux. That's it. The fact the company is charging 18k for a product like this just goes to show how out of it the audio industry is. I am willing to put money on it that between R&D and manufacturing costs that unit barely costs over $1500. As long as these dumb prices stay this way a product like this will never hit mainstream, it just won't happen.
Licensing is a big part of the cost. When you spit the cost among 10s of thousands of chips, it’s going to be more cost effective than splitting between a low volume product
Yo Villaman my man hope all is well with you buddy.
Hey! All is well, thanks! Hope all is well with you too
Congrats on an endgame processor🤘🤘🤘
That would be like saying Ferrari’s are making regular cars obsolete.
Your videos are awesome! Thank you - I’m learning so much 😊
I just hope for Arcam to do an update with latest Dirac Art - that’s pretty substantial update.
really great video and review!
You have to pay for the Best… Trinnov is the best today and hopefully tomorrow. It should last you many years, hats off!!!😊😊
I have the anthem avm70 and a anthem mca 525 amp with klipsch speakers here in Australia.
Very nice!
While its definitely a fantastic high end HT experience, I doubt this will "obsolete" AV receivers or processors anytime soon. Its a niche product and cost prohibitive for the average HT enthusiast.
Great voice and interesting topic. But I can’t figure out how to get one. Your link has no information on cost. Is this 32 bit?
Give them a call, they’re awesome folks.
Theta digital had a modular processor 20 years ago. Unfortunately they appear to have gone out of business. And that had really hi audiophile specs for less than this.
Still around. Casablanca V best version $30000.
I recently read the trinnov speaker placement white paper.
Their products are for people with 3 row of HT seats in a huge room. If I remember correctly dolbys highest supported format is 11.1.8. Also, dolby, nor DTS. Or Auro have official speaker layouts that are capable with each other.
So trinnov takes all these 3 seperate speaker placement standards, and does their own mapping according to your room, and their products shine when you have a room that has more speakers than the standard allows, like the 32 channel processor.
But, I don't think trinnov is a reference product. It sounds like it changes too much. It's a niche product for rich people with crazy amounts of speakers in mega sized home theathers.
If you want the cheaper sound mapping to happen, the new Sony ES receivers can also sound map according to the dolby standard and dolby speaker placement rules. But with sony you only get to map dolby, unlike trinnov where you can map to all three, dolby, dts, and auro.
Auro is dead and irrelevant.
Can the Trinnov do five front speakers (Todd-AO) setup. Can it do Dolby Stereo 4.2.4. matrix and Perspecta Stereo Sound ?
If you want to, you could. That’s the beauty of its flexibility
@@tHAvIlLaMaN i'm curious if trinnov 32 can do , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system , set of standards £28k is a lot and looking at it with lid removed it looks cheaply made that thin chassis is a joke on the quality build
Welcome to the club!
It’s a great one, too
am pretty sure it sounds good but not 18k better lol thanks for the video
As with a lot of things, there are diminishing returns. All that matter is being happy with what you have
@@tHAvIlLaMaN yeah diminishing is big in the audio world i change soo many spaekers and at the end is just the sound Profile that change from one brand to another ,am sticking with my last one 😎
@@eddietours3728 Mann ain't that the truth 👍🏾👍🏾
Congrats😉😉😉!!! Are you planning to do any in-depth videos on the Trinnov Altitude 16?
This is certainly Endgame Status! A wonderful gift.👊🏾😉👊🏾
2.0 hdmi Damn
Great video. Thanks.
I’ve heard rooms with Trinov and Lyngdorf and older Storm Audio, its meh. It’s not bad but doesn’t blow me away, professionally installed high dollar systems. Some of the best HT audio I’ve head came from of all processors Anthem, Denon/Marantz and Monoprice. It came down to how they treated the room, selected and placed speakers and calibrated. Trinov is innovative for sure, Room Perfect is great but sometimes KISS wins.
What amp was the Altitude hooked up to that you heard? The amp is an integral part of the Altitude package. For me, I would only go with the Trinnov Amplitude to power and maximize the Altitude performance.
Theta Digital Casablanca V with extreme DACs .$30000. Has Dirac as well.
I put my money where my mouth is and bought the latest Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (HDMI2.1/Sabre DAC), I then added 4 more subwoofers and still not getting the same performance as my Marantz AV8805A. There’s something with Audyssey Multi-EQ XT32 that I like with their bass management that I can’t seem to replicate yet with the Trinnov. Hopefully in August when Wave Forming has its public release will it change. I still stand by my initial assessment, the everyday Joe offerings are high performing for the dollar vs a high priced very customizable systems, where you need to spend $5k for a professional calibration just to get similar performance. I’m already tens of thousands into it so I may as well keep it but if I had it to do over again, is the investment worth it? Questionable, I’ve already gone down the rabbit hole. @jeremey the I’m were not Amplitude, but some other integrator brand. For me I kept my amps which are the Apollon NC500 11ch premium Amp and Rotel RB-1590 as well as two Martin Logan MP500 monoblocks, they’re all gain matched pre-calibration to be roughly 78-82dB from the Trinnov mic with the volume set to -15 in the optimization measurements.
Not to long ago I finally retired my 12 years old Pioneer AVR to the Marantz Cinema 50. Sounds pretty amazing, no complaints here. 👍
Awesome, congratulations!
I good way to look at the cost factor of top of line equipment and home theatre is,,, wait for it, how much time do you spend watching movies and tv??? A new truck today is about $40,000 plus. How long does the wow factor last in a new automobile or truck?
Not near as long as the smiles you get when being wowed by your equipment!!!
My opinion
Sure, Lotto win and I'm there but a big part of that win would have to go toward a pro installation. We like to think we can scan a manual, blaze through the setup and be done - for a processor this expensive I would want someone who really knew what they were doing. Sure, it would cost a bomb, but remember that Lotto win we just celebrated ? ;)
im curious can u just buy the i7 equivalent cpu(dont know which genetation) and just replace the i5. and add more channels via the external dac?
im new at this stuff, but isnt that a possibility instead of paying 36k
No because the BIOS, software, and components are designed around specific hardware
oh and another thing is the 4K disc that you get, are not up to stuff, meaning the we are at the mercy of the mixing engineers, if they are good at mixing dolby atmos, or if the budget for the movie allowed for use of dolby atmos, so you have spent all this money and nothing your experience comes down to the 4k disc
Can you hear the cooling on this since the CPU has a fan?
Nope. Not one bit
Thanks for the great video. I have AVM90 and I think is the end game for me.
That’s very nice. Congrats!
I wish I could have gotten this over my marantz. Even though my marantz has 15 outputs it can only process 13 channels. So I can’t have 9.2.6 even though I have the outputs on the unit. Then they came out a year later with a processor that could do that 🤦🏾♂️
With Trinnov, that wouldn’t have happened and had it happened they would have offered that upgrade to me for free via software update.
It's a Trinnov. That's it. Saved you a watch.
Cool idea, and about time. Yes it will be expensive, that is a given. But the worry is what is Trinnov's commitment to keeping up with HDMI switching changes for instance as that is a constant moving target. I like the room correction, and calibration facilities. You showed the XLR connections speaker connections. That is incorrect. Those are line outputs to external amplifiers as you mentioned later. $18,000.00 is a heck of a commitment. One of the reasons this is such a niche product, not many will buy. Now if this was truly scalable, and you get what you want, than maybe. My needs are easy. Don't care about Atmos, don't need extensive HDMI switching or pass-through. Just a great 5.1 experience. I use currently an Anthem AVM-30. I love this. No gimmicks, no HDMI anything, no Atmos. Just add amplifiers and speakers, and subwoofer and go. I want better facilities for room calibration and I am going to use REW, but I feel the eq functions of my Anthem maybe a limiting factor. Since my needs are so easy, obsolescence is not an issue. Good room correction facilities are. Really easy. I don't need to spend $18,000.00, and never going too.
This is right up my alley but at $20k is certainly makes it less wife and budget friendly even if you had a considerable budget..
That said, how does it do with the feature set of a regular Home theater receiver? Does it handle casting for UA-cam videos from my iPad or mobile? How is it’s network audio handling? The brief shots of the interface look a little simplistic but how well and intuitive is it?
So, that’s before amplification, right? So suddenly those $6 -$8K flagship AVRs fro Yammy, Marantz, etc are absolute bargains.
Hi, geiles unboxing und tolle Aufnahmen vom Innenleben. Gerne mehr von deiner neuen Trinnov. Auch das Einmessen würde mich sehr interessieren.
Grüße aus Germany 🇩🇪
Yo Villa that equipment is serious u make laugh with bed time reading material 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Great video! Any chance you’ll be able to audition an emotiva processor like the XMC-2 or the RMC-1 and provide a comparison?
XLR speaker outputs? I never heard of XLR for a speaker connection - is that for a certain brand of speaker?
I’m sure you know what I meant…
@@tHAvIlLaMaN I don't know what you meant. That looks like 3 wires, my speakers have 2 wires...how do I connect that or do I need to get different speakers.
@fredjohnson9856
That's just a processor. The XLR connections are for shielded signal cables that you connect to an amp.
@Fred I thought you were being facetious- my bad.
XLRs are balanced connectors that are meant as outputs to an amplifier. Each connector goes to a single channel on the amplifier, which would then power your speakers, once connected directly to the amp. They accomplish the same thing as RCA connectors, but with a cleaner signal
@@tHAvIlLaMaN thank is a lot of freakin' amps.... thanks
I’m really looking forward to the Denon X4800H. My current AVR-2310CI can’t decode Dolby Atmos so it’s long overdue for an upgrade. I looked at the Marantz Cinema series but the consensus seems to be that Denons still sound better if movies & TV are my primary input sources.
I loved my X4300H so I can’t wait to see how the X4800H performs
Congratulations on the purchase..Life is about enjoymentn happiness..cant put a price tag on that.compared to the maestro x7 u said as if the speakers disappear and the objects what remains..Do you still get the effect with the trinnov?
Even more so. It’s like turning everything up to 11. Bass is fuller and more impactful at lower levels and since the speaker calibration is more precise, they blend even better
Just installed a brand new Marantz Cinema 50 and my better-half says that I need to consider myself lucky that I got it! Fortunately she can sense the improvement so I can rest easy . . . for now. Meanwhile, Do you still feel Elite Screens Aeon Cinegray 3D is the best choice for the price? Haven’t discussed that choice with her … yet. Meanwhile, I have hinted at a new Sony projector. That didn’t go over too well, yet. 🥶🥳😅 I have often wondered what the Trinnov is all about and your review was the first I have heard that properly explains what it does. I am learning that there is no amount of money that one can spend on the home theatre hobby. Meanwhile, A budget approach is good enough for me. (The family could care less i.e. “Gee dad - thanks for the movie . . . see ya, bye . . . 😂🤣👏👍)
That’s the thing… there will always be some manufacturer there willing to make a product to relieve you of that extra cash. You just have to be judicious with a what you invest in. Glad you got the change to get what you want, so far… good luck on the rest of it tho! 😆
The Marantz Cinema 50 feature set is quite impressive compared to my previous 2017 / Marantz 5012. Their engineers really put some effort into it making everything you need - adjustable. At $3300 CDN - its good enough! Waiting on Sony to fix its base-black issue with its new Sony laser projectors before my spousal sweet-talking begins. 😄😂
Heres the frusrating thjing, that looks like a compaq i had in the 90s! I dont feel like this thing is amazing i think its a hilarious statement on how far behind audio tech is. Why only hardware ive been asking myself since i bought my first reciever in the 90s.
Pretty wild that an owner can't take full advantage of a modern GPU or console running through this thing. If they want to play PC games at 4k120 with HDR, 10-12 bit depth, and full RGB/4:4:4, this $18K box is no better than a door stop. PS5 and Xbox Series X have slightly more limited lower bandwidth 2.1 implementations, but valuable features like VRR are still out the window.
They'll add hdmi support not sure price of upgrade
very interesting man! now you are coming from a Maestro M9 correct? Altitude 16 a significant upgrade in sound from there?
I wish I could afford a Trinnov just because I like the computer idea of it better. Currently have an Arcam avr20 in my system which sounds great
Bedtime reading material, lol
Cano use only processor, like processor connect it direct to my speakers.
No. A processor only processes. It needs an amplifier to power the speakers
Thank you very much my boss
Impressive , but i just got the Anthem AVM 70 and no way i am changing in the next 5yrs
This processor was probably the single best upgrade I made in my room. Nice video, well explained :)
Thanks and I definitely agree.
I'm glad I got 2 kidneys because I have to sell one to get this pre pro lol
Haha 😆
What's the difference from STD computer with a 2.1 HDMI (beside dedicated software, cool microphone and D to A ?). If those analog outputs would be amplified, now that would be the game changer.
You have never heard surround sound until you've heard it through a Trinnov. I had a top of the line Denon 8500 thinking it was great. Wrong. OMG. The Trinnov processing is what surround was supposed to sound like. I know it's expensive, but you will likely never need another one. Get off the 'upgrade AVR merrygoround' and get one of these. Everything else is just a toy.
Storm audio ❤
which in ceiling speakers are you running with the arendale speakers looking for some good soft dome to match with
One thing to note, the Altitude 16 is a distilled, more budget friendly Altitude 32. And the 32 released almost a decade ago - back in 2014. And the 16 came out in 2017
To add to that, Trinnov still tests all their software on an even older prototype, so future updates are to be expected for years to come.
Still rockin the UST bruh?
Yup, until I can find a new house
the parasound amp is gone ?
Nope it’s still there
Love the potential a Trinnov can be. Hate that I am a loser who can only dream of affording after winning the dream lottery.
Don't think like that my boy. You'll be in the position to own a Trinnov one day 💪
Bruh. Only rich people and streamers can afford something like that. It's not even in the middle. That's for the 1%.
I’m sorry…how much?😮
At the 8 minute mark (price reveal) I had a heart attack, died, and was reincarnated as a grasshopper. I can finally eat gluten! $0.02
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So you spend $20,000 on something that can be upgraded. Or you just upgrade to a new processor many times over for 1/10th the cost.
You can get the new Denon or Sony 13.2 receivers, $5-7K each, 5 times throughout the net 20 -25 years with upgrades and still be ahead financially and have the best receiver with every upgrade. What you are talking about here makes no sense anymore, even if you have a lot of money.
So why can’t we just use our own 16 core 32 thread computers for 1/3 the price and do the same sound decoding? All we would need is the software and a breakout box with XLR outputs for each channel.
Those are some pretty big ‘all we would needs’. Don’t forget the DACs. Software is definitely the biggest factor in the price
yeah I was looking for a comment about diy home cpu setups and wondering if that would be possible. With a group of us pc guys who keep up with cpu's it would be so cool to have a way to make our own. Unfortunately, the software is non existent and hdmi switching and equipment is not available.
As a pc gamer I cringe when I see that intel fan. I wonder if they would switch to ARM.
Damn this thing is expensive.
It is. Worth it to some
If someone could make software and sound cards with the same tech I'd buy for a decent price
I'm sure the unit is overpriced. Probably the components inside are only a few hundred dollars wholesale.
@@ramonbmovies It's probably a bit more than that with custom PCBs, Dolby licensing, etc. However, I agree that it's still overpriced. Especially as it's only a processor. I'm sure those who spend $18k on a processor will disagree. 😆
@@dirkmanderin I will say that the processor is quite fancy. I see that format - w/ the intel chip - as ideal. It's almost like putting a surround sound processor in a desktop computer.
Arcan, Audio Control or Anthem ?? Which on do you prefer ??
I’ve only used the AudioControl. Really liked it, despite the occasional software bug
Now let's see the $5000 version
No dice.
When you said the price I am stopping video
Speaker outputs? I connect those directly to my speakers? Hmm..interesting.
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Sadly wife will not let me sell one of her kidney
Interesting but expensive product. I would love to see someone break out of the expensive custom hardware game and bring this kind of software/pc based processor to enthusiasts with less $$$. A pc with this units software and a few hdmi outputs only could do all this unit could do for much less as every mass market second hard consumer AVR can be turned into a simple 7.1 channel digital DAC and amplifier. Connect 2-3 of these to the PC processor via hdmi and you have up to 21.3 channels of high quality output without investing in any hardware design and hardware costs of 1/10th of this solution because you are able to reuse older AVR's that you already own or are out of date. A truely modular solution that has better upgrade paths as well.
You can’t discount the software licensing part which is a huge part of the cost
@@tHAvIlLaMaN yeah the software only would probably cost several thousand dollars and have to include the price of optional licensed features for each technology from Dolby, DTS etc.
Definitely not for your "Avg. Joe"...like me. 💸💸💸
Nothing says high tech like ide ribbon cables
The results speaks for itself
I love it, but @$18K I'll never buy it. Basically just for the rich or for actual theaters.
Where is the music test? 🔊🔊🤔🔊🔊
The first speaker review with it is coming really soon
Not until they cost less than $3k.
Nope... Wrong. It's the other way around. With Emotiva, Marantz, Denon, Monoprice, Anthem, Arcam, etc., getting into the 16-channel and higher game without costing as much as a used car, the Trinnov is looking less and less attractive. Throw in Dirac and ARC room correction, and there will be less and less desire for the Trinnov.
I have both an AudioControl Maestro X7 with Dirac and the Altitude right now and I can say the sound from the Altitude is next level. Granted the Maestro gets gets you most of the way there, but Trinnov does things it just can’t
Nope wrong!... actually the Altitude 16 costs more than a new 2023 Nissan Versa, 2023 Chevy Spark, 2023 Kia Rio and many other brand new cars. Furthermore I've owned a Emotiva RMC1 plus I literally just sold my Marantz SR8012 and I can say from experience as soon as you turn on the Trinnov Altitude 16 and turn on the surround channels via laptop or tablet there's a huge difference in sound quality and clarity. You literally hear things on the Trinnov Altitude 16 thats not even audible on lesser receivers and processors. What shocked me is how you can have the volume down low and still hear every small minute detail.
Don't believe me about the detail that can't be heard on lesser products, Not even the AVM90?
ua-cam.com/video/SnN0H-uN_p4/v-deo.html
Point proven.
By the way the Altitude 16 is a 20 channel processor now since the update. The others don't even have a 20 channel offering.
@@Menard892000 For most people, going beyond 9.4.6 is overkill. It will not take too much effort to produce a 20-channel processor and keep the price under $9000.
@Kev_ON The only 20 Channel processor I can think of off hand is the Acurus ACT 4 20 channel processor and its a long way away from being less than 9k. I get what your saying about the price of the Trinnov but everyone who's into home theater or even hifi audio knows this isn't exactly the cheapest hobby to have in the first place 😄
like everyone says, who can afford this,
Solid. I just bought the Emotiva RMC-1L. haven't installed it yet. soon as I get the XPA-7 & Elac Carinas 🫠 Bless Up Bredda 🇯🇲
Not really. It is ridiculously expensive.
It really is. It may be worth it tho
Buy once, cry once.
But it's a new technology,eventually it might get cheaper
When your pushing $18k for just your processor you are in the $200k range for entire home theater... no thank you. I'm in the hole $20k and the entire family has a great time and I can shake the entire house or listen to 2 channel audio with enjoyment. The cost of audio gear is heading the same direction of cars. It's time for reviewers to be honest and say honestly, you created an amazing product but who cares... its too expensive to even bother with.
@@Breakinlife007 True that it’s expensive, but you are buying once and it’s future-proofed. The audio quality is also much better, even than the ~$5k top of the line Denon 8500 that I had before the Trinnov - really no comparison. So it’s not about “who cares”, but the reality is that it sounds so much better, that’s why it’s worth it.
Title is misleading and click-baity. Trinnov is pc based av processor, not a pc...
And knowing the price, it better be good, lol
A PC made for audio processing is still a PC
@@tHAvIlLaMaN Really, so you can open browser on Trinnov? Can you install applications? Will you do a video how to run Excel on Trinnov?
A PC is a Personal Computer, which means I can do with it whatever I want and it does not have a single application / purpose - to decode sound.
My first reaction seeing the title was that there is a custom built PC, with a Dac or sound card which can decode sound and is better then a AV Processor, but nope, its actually Trinnov, one of the best AV Processors, which should the title say.
So then ps5 or xbox is a PC as well? Because it uses PC parts, and is a PC built for gaming, so is it a PC?
@@sneikiusas did you forget your medicine today, chill out , ive seen worse click bait already 10 times today and its 9am, you just sound mad at the world
@@mainsource8030 its 6pm, and I dont need no medicine. So if you've seen more clickbiats, so its ok with this one?
I agree, It's a misleading title. I was expecting something like a home theater PC, certainly not a Trinnov.
Lol not at that price
i wouldn't touch that trinnov32 with a barge pole the chassis looks cheap rubbish , made in china parts for french , plus the french come into british waters and steal our fish . stuff trinnov snobby 16 32 i wouldn't even put trinnov32 into a dog cat recuse shelter
i wouldn't touch that trinnov32 with a barge pole the chassis looks cheap rubbish , made in china parts for french , plus the french come into british waters and steal our fish . stuff trinnov snobby 16 32 i wouldn't even put trinnov32 into a dog cat recuse shelter
Ah yes. For the people with more money than sense.
Ok.
1:24 bro, upgrade the ram and drop a water cooler on that thing.
lol it’s not that kinda PC
😴 Promo`SM
WTF....yeah, I'll me run out real quick to get a few of these... Guess I need to start following a different AV channel.
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Bye Snowflake
You should have started with the price, so I could skip the video. No thanks, that price is utterly absurd for common folks HT 😅😅
It’s all relative. At some point you may think it’s worth it
@@tHAvIlLaMaN Not in this life. Nope.
My jaw plummeted to the floor at record speeds when I saw the price was as much as a brand new car. And I thought a 9.2ch receiver was expensive lmao
trinnov 16 32 is dumpster fire woke for garbage trash woke 4k atmos that are near field mixes not even proper theatrical mixes just tampered with soundtracks and £28k for this woke made rubbish trinnov
@@andysummers485 why is it woke?
@@ProfOfficial i read that trinnov32 manual 6 times , once would have been enough .
it can do proper for serious theatrical mixes owners , that only exist on laserdisc .
trinnov can't do Dolby pro-logic 4.2.4 nor does it even have manual Lt Rt or even auto-balance .
i have crap Denon AVC-X8500H does heights 1 2 3 , dolby dsu dolby surround is flawed and distracting piece of garbage trash in past 36 years
£28k is a lot for rubbish processors that looks cheap made , so what if software upgrade so what . i bet designed in france , made in china at way the inside looked , tacky rubbish , plus french come into british waters and they steal our fish .
as ex professional projectionist i wouldn't touch trinnov32 16 with a barge pole . i wouldn't even put a trinnov32 into a dog cat rescue shelter
@@andysummers485 I understand that the product is way overpriced, I'm not planning on buying it anyway. But I was just confused why you were calling it "woke" lmao as if it had blue hair and a twitter account
@@ProfOfficial i sniff smell youtube shills here
Surround sound is ultimately wireless powered speakers with a tiny handshake box. But the AV industry is backwards and loves over-engineered expensive big boxes and spaghetti cables. Totally useless.
$18k usd.... I stopped watching
$500 i7 computer and because they are all in house designs and have no economy of scale you are paying over 18K for proprietary software and licensing fees...
Exactly
Sorry but this video is basically an ad for value electronics. Same with Shane Lee. Not dissing the trinnov platform though it truly is a wonderful piece of equipment but what pisses me off is when I see youtubers who have obviously got a significant discount promoting a product that less than 1% of their viewers can actually afford let alone buy. Sorry Villaman not trying to attack you personally you are just playing the game. I hate the game.
I am happy for you that you got hold of a trinnov but wont be watching any content you make on it.
What? This is in no way an ad for VE. I got a component that I and many others would love to have in our system, and I’m sharing (in my view) insightful information about said device, while bringing awareness to the place I got it from.
Value Electronics not only sold it to me, but is also kind enough to lend me TVs and other items that rarely any other company would, so that I can make videos that you and others watch.
Why WOULDN’T I mention them and give credit to a small business, where that credit is due? Or would it be better if I was to only make content about devices I buy outright?