E3D made an impressive HIGH FLOW nozzle!

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    E3D finally released their new High Flow nozzle where they partnered up with Bondtech and their Core Heating Technology. But at almost $50 is it even any good?
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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +26

    What's your take on E3Ds new High Flow nozzle? Too expensive or exactly what you've been waiting for?
    Oh, and check out our CNC Kitchen products at cnckitchen.store/ or at our resellers www.cnckitchen.com/reseller

    • @ok0_0
      @ok0_0 Рік тому +1

      It looks nice

    • @EricYanush
      @EricYanush Рік тому +4

      Are you not concerned that the Teflon tape insulated the CHT nozzle and prevented it from performing at its full potential?

    • @twanheijkoop6753
      @twanheijkoop6753 Рік тому +6

      Considering the price of a revo + hf nozzle comes pretty close to a Goliath I think it's a bit expensive for how little flow it actually offers.

    • @ericlotze7724
      @ericlotze7724 Рік тому +3

      @@twanheijkoop6753 a Goliath Hotend review would be great once those come out!

    • @BizaroStormy88
      @BizaroStormy88 Рік тому +1

      @@EricYanush This! Lets compare these two cars but on the competitors car we are going to put an artificial restriction in the exhaust system! WOW look how fast the new car is!

  • @ShadowDrakken
    @ShadowDrakken Рік тому +171

    Now we just need Obsidian HF for PETG to prevent the curling caused by PETG's love of sticking to copper. :D

    • @ericlotze7724
      @ericlotze7724 Рік тому +12

      I want a HF Diamondback !

    • @BladeWalker91
      @BladeWalker91 Рік тому +6

      I thought PETG sticking and build-up was solved with nickel plating, as well as improving abrasion resistance.

    • @Daepilin
      @Daepilin Рік тому +8

      @@ericlotze7724 I want diamondback in germany without exorbitant shipping/import tax :(

    • @ShadowDrakken
      @ShadowDrakken Рік тому +3

      @@BladeWalker91 helped maybe, but I wouldn't say solved.

    • @frankearl9285
      @frankearl9285 Рік тому

      @@ShadowDrakken : Indeed. But then I also want a HF for Obxidian so I can do high-flow abrasives as well. I strongly suspect that's coming in light of how they got to HF with the Brass nozzles.

  • @Ally-Oop
    @Ally-Oop Рік тому +26

    I don’t have anything to do with 3D printing at all but the cadence, the content, and the quality of his videos are always super enjoyable. It’s a great day when a new CNC Kitchen video drops.

    • @sail4life
      @sail4life Рік тому +2

      Fess up, you know you want one...

  • @jasperbarnett6819
    @jasperbarnett6819 Рік тому +107

    Yeah this continues to demonstrate why I have no plans to ever "upgrade" to Revo. I can get a hardened steel CHT nozzle today, and I still don't see the benefit of rapid nozzle changes as someone who is MAYBE using his printer 25% of the time, so just having a wear resistant 0.4mm nozzle is really all I need. Especially since so much of what I make is structural parts, where printing fast can be a really bad thing for part strength, I'll happily trade the 50% longer print times for just knowing that my printer will happily handle everything from PLA to carbon filled PC with zero issues...

    • @ericlotze7724
      @ericlotze7724 Рік тому +14

      It would be nice in my opinion, but between the Closed Source Nature, and like you said how an abrasive resistant 0.4mm (or whatever your “standard nozzle size” is) nozzle will work 75% of the time, I don’t see much of a need there.

    • @spindlywebs
      @spindlywebs Рік тому +2

      that's also what I'm interested in, though I've heard larger nozzles actually make stronger parts? like what if you printed 0.8 on PAHT-CF or GF-PC? that's what i want to know 😭

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 Рік тому

      cool story

    • @dn275
      @dn275 Рік тому +7

      I still don't understand the sales pitch for this system. Nozzle changes are already easy and quick. Nozzle choice is limiting. How often and for what reason is there to change nozzles often enough to warrant locking yourself into this ecosystem? I see it being aimed at people who are new to 3D printing and selling them on the simplicity. Even then, is unscrewing something and screwing something else in that high of a bar?

    • @jasperbarnett6819
      @jasperbarnett6819 Рік тому +3

      @@dn275 I guess people have issues with stripping their heater blocks or bending the heat brake when hot tightening? But like, that can be much more easily solved by just using a copper block and adding a couple screws through the block and into the heatsink, Mosquito-style... Or just by not over-tightening the nozzle... There are even PRINTABLE TORQUE WRENCHES that folks have designed for exactly this purpose. I honestly don't understand the Revo hype when I could just get a Mosquito, with better performance, full compatibility with any of my old nozzles, a higher max temperature, and only VERY marginally more difficult nozzle swaps (oh no I'll need to get a socket wrench and be careful not to touch the hot bits). The retraction trick in the end gcode to make Revo fully cold-swappable is just as doable on a standard setup, and you only need the heater block to be hot when you're screwing the new nozzle in, so you can be unscrewing the old nozzle, putting it away, and getting out the new one while stuff heats up...

  • @sebastianriecker3402
    @sebastianriecker3402 Рік тому +6

    Just love your scientific, systematic and straight forward approach every time you analyze new components, printing settings or materials. Well done, as always!

  • @ProtonOne11
    @ProtonOne11 Рік тому +35

    I get that pressfitting that core in there makes sense to get the best thermal transfer and makes it completely tight and rock solid. And it's probably easier and cheaper to manufacture than a threaded version. If you could unscrew that center core piece however, it would make cleaning/repairing or even replacing a worn out nozzle tip so much easier and cheaper.

    • @MisterkeTube
      @MisterkeTube Рік тому +13

      I had the same thought: how the hell would you unclog that thing? You will not be able to push a needle through it, right? Also cold-pulling won't work, I guess ... So, how do you unclog this if some cooked plastic gets stuck in that bottom cavity? Lemme guess, you have to buy another one of those expensive nozzles?

    • @TheWoeggil
      @TheWoeggil Рік тому +4

      Lining up the holes would be a nightmare with threads.

    • @023douwebakker
      @023douwebakker Рік тому +4

      ​@@MisterkeTube Probaly burning it out by heating the nozzle with a torch

    • @yschroder
      @yschroder Рік тому +2

      And you could just replace the threaded insert to change the diameter! Wait we just designed a V6 hotend... My point is: by making it a threaded insert you would invalidate the whole design...

    • @specialingu
      @specialingu Рік тому +1

      @@MisterkeTube the needles ive used have some flex/bend in them, but if you suspect one channel is clogged, its hard to know if your poking the right one (with a cht, anyways, and this and the clones would be the same)

  • @ErtsenPlayGames
    @ErtsenPlayGames Рік тому +2

    0:35 that intro music ..... i instantly think about noctua fan comparison xD

  • @haenselundgretel654
    @haenselundgretel654 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video delivering even great values for designing own hotends. Thanks a lot!

  • @corlissmedia2.0
    @corlissmedia2.0 Рік тому

    Great report. Thanks for providing the additional insights at the end of this video!

  • @derbacksteinbacker4942
    @derbacksteinbacker4942 Рік тому +23

    This is all cool and impressive… for people who already have Revos. I personally run my Vorons up to 200-250mm/s and specifically tune my profiles to max out the hotend as best as I can. As someone who looks for performance it’s hard to imagine me ever getting a revo high flow, I think the convenience of changing a nozzle in probably 10 sek less just isn’t worth getting yourself into this ecosystem wich is limiting in many ways. I have to walk over into another room to change my printers nozzle anyways, I don’t care if I change it in 20 or 30 seconds and with the auto z calibration adjusting the z offset is also a non issue

  • @schm4704
    @schm4704 Рік тому

    Thanks Stefan, these are quality insights as always.

  • @reverse_engineered
    @reverse_engineered Рік тому +2

    "So make sure to not lose your socks." Well played, sir. Thumbs up!

  • @JacobProbasco
    @JacobProbasco 11 місяців тому

    Loved this overview. Thanks for sharing!

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 Рік тому +2

    Great coverage!
    Looking forward to your Matias V6 adapter review.

  • @WhamBamSystems
    @WhamBamSystems Рік тому +1

    simply amazing and thorough testing as always, sold me!

  • @frijoli9579
    @frijoli9579 Рік тому

    I really enjoy your test videos!

  • @jaytea2140
    @jaytea2140 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for adding print speed.

  • @dwilliam16
    @dwilliam16 Рік тому

    Yay. That formula will be helpful. Great video value as always.

  • @gerthddyn
    @gerthddyn Рік тому +38

    I was waiting for your review of this! I didn't realize the price, that is insane on a wear part. The regular nozzles were bad enough. I would have liked to have seen how it fares against that drop in Chinese part that you used before, but given the issues you had with the CHT, I get why you didn't.

    • @TheSanpletext
      @TheSanpletext Рік тому +3

      My jaw literally dropped when I heard the price. That's insane.

    • @thomaskletzl6493
      @thomaskletzl6493 Рік тому +4

      i dont really see the problem with that price its not really expensiv i mean how often do you need a new nozzel

    • @lawlcake8788
      @lawlcake8788 Рік тому +1

      @@thomaskletzl6493 if you print non Glowing CF or white filaments then yea i suppose you dont need to replace very often

    • @MrPeloseco
      @MrPeloseco Рік тому +2

      @@thomaskletzl6493 thinking that a new Revo Voron with a standard nozzle is $85...
      why do I need to pay $45 for a nozzle and another $45 for the heat element??

    • @frankearl9285
      @frankearl9285 Рік тому +2

      @@lawlcake8788 : Ding! You'd be buying an Obxidian nozzle in that case for that. Seriously, folks, everyone keeps going on about price there- unless you're doing something stupid or using cheap parts (Heh...hint...hint...) that nozzle isn't as much of a wear part as everyone keeps going on about it as.
      I mean, y'all aren't driving the tip into your bed all the time, riiiight?
      You know that glow in the dark, CF and glass, etc. are SUPER abrasive and you needed a steel, ruby or similar hardened nozzle riiiight?
      What're y'all doing that makes these THAT painful, hm?

  • @MirageDU
    @MirageDU Рік тому +7

    I like that they kept the formfactor for easy switching. But on the other hand I would have liked a UHF version with an extended meltzone. Maybe that will come next year.

    • @frankearl9285
      @frankearl9285 Рік тому

      I suspect so. This is a nice system they've come up with. It's more robust in several ways to stock on most printers- and it's easy to change nozzles out.

  • @ChrisBigBad
    @ChrisBigBad Рік тому

    maximum science ahead! Excellent content.

  • @MrTree421
    @MrTree421 Рік тому +1

    "You know who doesn't need a salespitch?" ...proceeds to give a salespitch. I don't know if that ironic humor was intended.

  • @skylersowers7715
    @skylersowers7715 Рік тому +1

    "You know what doesn't need a sales pitch the thing I'm doing a sales pitch for" had to laugh

  • @EIEIOOOOO241
    @EIEIOOOOO241 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! A little off topic but I noticed that the prints off the Voron looked great! I was planning to build one myself but was wondering how the print quality compared to like a Prusa Mk3 (Mk4)?

  • @corlissmedia2.0
    @corlissmedia2.0 Рік тому

    You can learn many things about a person by watching their eyes while they speak. For instance, if, as a person is speaking, they close their eyes, this can be interpreted to mean they are inventing what they are saying instead of reciting something they know for a fact. When a person closes their eyes AND looks away (sometimes this is called "falling asleep"), we can interpret that as meaning they are unhappy or even ashamed of themselves because they know that have misspoke (another word for this is lie). I'm writing this here because of something I saw in your pitch for Skill Share. I don't doubt for a moment that many of the people are sincere and very creative / experienced. But then there are the hucksters. Being able to recognize that our eyes reveal our truth, I'll call it, is very helpful when you're putting together a team. Now, back to watching this GREAT VIDEO!

  • @RomanoPRODUCTION
    @RomanoPRODUCTION Рік тому

    100% adorable 🤩

  • @Yanceyray
    @Yanceyray Рік тому +6

    Great video and appreciate your work. Please put it on consideration to test 0.6 nozzles with ABS to see what the flow rates are. The heater capacity analysis was also informative. Based on your findings I suspect a 60w is required for 0.6.

    • @frankearl9285
      @frankearl9285 Рік тому

      I'd say it depends on the material. You'll probably do okay with PLA/PETG/ABS/ASA. PC and Nylon will likely need the 60W to gain maximal advantages of the nozzle design.

  • @Flagazz
    @Flagazz Рік тому

    Fantastic review!!! I’m very curious to know how was the ambient temperature during those heater test… with and withou the silicon sock

  • @ManWithBeard1990
    @ManWithBeard1990 Рік тому +17

    Looks neat. Only problem might be that they are harder to unclog when needed.

    • @infernaldaedra
      @infernaldaedra Рік тому

      If the insert could be removed separately you could open it so clean it and you would actually be able to remove the just the nozzle tip wear surface 🤔 E3D has pretty good engineering and they seem close to a really competitive solution

    • @peterkn2
      @peterkn2 Рік тому

      This was my thought the entire video. I guess these high flow nozzles are only good for lab or professional environments using high quality filament.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому

      Become a cold-pull champ and then you might be able to unclog it ;-) Maybe cleaning filament might also help.

    • @ManWithBeard1990
      @ManWithBeard1990 Рік тому

      @@CNCKitchen That's the thing. the shape in the middle creates an undercut so I don't think you can do cold pulls with one of these.

    • @hotends
      @hotends Рік тому

      @@ManWithBeard1990 if you do succeed it would look quite alien like for sure! haha

  • @MFEeee
    @MFEeee 9 місяців тому

    Great video. Explained a lot. Now I understand my nozzles better. Need a better fan that doesn’t blow into my heater block and instead blows on the print

  • @redkingrauri3769
    @redkingrauri3769 Рік тому +1

    Maybe instead of cold pulling try using a noclogger and see if that helps. The split might be more difficult for the metal rod but it might also push through instead of having to risk damage to the nozzle.

  • @TheMightyZwom
    @TheMightyZwom Рік тому +2

    Hearing the music at the beginning of the video I was - kind of - expecting smoke to flow through the screen. But... no smoke. And no fan tried to win against "The Cheater" xD

    • @PeterTremonti
      @PeterTremonti Рік тому

      That's a good show. I thought the wrong video loaded after I clicked on it

    • @denisj4996
      @denisj4996 Рік тому

      me too :D

  • @WereCatf
    @WereCatf Рік тому +3

    I have no use for a high flow nozzle, but I definitely am loving the quick-swap feature of the Revos. I've got a Revo Micro in my Prusa Mini+ and it's just simply wonderful and, rather surprisingly, reduces stringing somewhat compared to the original setup.

    • @shapshooter7769
      @shapshooter7769 Рік тому

      It's called the Trianglelabs TUN nozzle lmao.

    • @WereCatf
      @WereCatf Рік тому

      @@shapshooter7769 Did you reply to the wrong comment or something?

  • @HoldenArt
    @HoldenArt Рік тому +14

    The channel that every 3d printing company watches.

  • @Jeal0usJelly
    @Jeal0usJelly 10 місяців тому

    sudden Journey Across Japan vibes with the intro 😄

  • @gryzman
    @gryzman Рік тому

    drink every time Stefan says "yet"

  • @repsajpower2000
    @repsajpower2000 Рік тому

    Great video as always. What's your take on high-flow filament, like BambuLab's? What'd happen if we combined this Revo High flow nozzle and Bambu filament?

  • @MinnesotaHomesteading
    @MinnesotaHomesteading Рік тому +2

    With this, I'll be buying into the Revo ecosystem. I have installed the micro on my Prusa Mini, and I'm looking at possibly a Revo hemera for my mk3s.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому

      Now's finally a good time to jump on the band wagon.

  •  Рік тому

    I've tried the CHT clone some time ago, but I had problem where dust from filament got stuck inside the nozzle and I was unable to clean it. 1 of the 3 channels is clogged. So you should always use filament sponge filter or smiliar when using these kinds of nozzles.

  • @QuinnMorley
    @QuinnMorley 11 місяців тому

    The limiting factor with the power isn't steady state, it's when suddenly you hit a fat bridge area, double the print speed, and max the fan out at the same time. It isn't that you don't have enough power for that situation, it's a question of whether your PID will sort it out before the thermal protection kills your print. This was with a brass volcano block that was just suuuper sensitive to cooling. Really a struggle to PID tune for high-flow and fan on/off, even with a sock, so it's good to have some margin on the power if you are going with high flow rates.

  • @zarster
    @zarster Рік тому

    Could you consider to sandpaper away enough material on the tip to change the sealing point on the adapter and test it again?

  • @novicereloader
    @novicereloader Рік тому

    Every once in a while I like to watch something like this to see what I cannot justify spending money on. You do great videos, though. Excellent job.

  • @lasskinn474
    @lasskinn474 Рік тому

    it's an insert(the nozzle side is machine separately and press fit inserted into the 'holder', midway of the path split).

  • @darrenscruggs8832
    @darrenscruggs8832 Рік тому

    What’s the nozzle camera setup that you have on your Voron that was showing in your mainsail? Most of the commercial options I see are too close to the nozzle, but your setup looks perfect

  • @lajoyalobos2009
    @lajoyalobos2009 Рік тому

    I'm holding out for Obsidian High Flow. Once that comes out, they can take my money!!

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil 6 місяців тому

    theyve started making CHT nozzles in hardened steel, i got em on amazon for like 15 each, for anyone who needs em for carbon and such.

  • @ok0_0
    @ok0_0 Рік тому +1

    Lovely new vid. Hype

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 7 місяців тому

    I’m super curious about print quality improvements from this as I wanted to write software to compensate for the flow variations

  • @Javierm0n0
    @Javierm0n0 Рік тому

    Even though i am a budget 3d printer enthusiast if i were to get a highflow nozzle i'd probably end up getting one nozzle per plastic type if i was switching filaments and printing at a high volume. Currently i just push some filament through and clear out a diff type that way.
    I do love these HF designs though.

  • @filiggoo5526
    @filiggoo5526 Рік тому

    Hi CNC Kitchen, could you please look into the issue of E3D revo clogging? Plasament PLA is the only one that clogs. Other brands are okay. A lot of people have this problem and I can´t find a fix. I have a Prusa Mini+ with the 2nd gen Revo mount. My friend with a MK3s+ has the same problem too.

  • @Teajam
    @Teajam 10 місяців тому

    You used the same music for your into as @MajorHardware uses for his fan smoke tests, Thats awesome haha!

  • @TheAtomicSoul
    @TheAtomicSoul Рік тому +16

    Looking at the cutaway, the new nozzle seems to have a "flat area" before it enters the thin section to be extruded. (As opposed to it smoothly narrowing to a point.)
    This looks like an issue with how it's manufactured, but could that effect it's flow?

    • @smokeysify
      @smokeysify Рік тому +1

      I wonder if its more efficient than a sharp tip

    • @OscarOliu
      @OscarOliu Рік тому +1

      Looking at the entire nozzle, it looks like it might be stepping down the size to smooth melt path, if I were to guess anwyway, I am no engineer lol

    • @andreask87
      @andreask87 Рік тому +1

      Yeah that could become an issue over time and especially with obxidian variant + filled filaments...
      When you just look at the insert part standing on the outflow tip (like in the picture on the right side @ 1:45), the 4 bores that converge to the center have flat areas between them and the bore-edges are sharp and not chamferd or rounded, like with bondtech CHT.
      Theoretically those areas could act like flow dead zones and over time build-up of burned filament and other debris might occur until a natural flow-curve builts itself out.
      However, i guess E3D tested those long enough that this is not an issue with normal Filaments.
      Those flat areas coupled with the comparatively big widening of the filament path around the dome is most likely also the reason why Stefan could perform a proper cold pull.
      The plastic just gets spread to wide in diameter so you can't pull it through the typicall 2mm heatbrake/PTFE tube in a non-molten state.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +2

      It will definitely affect flow yet if you read the E3D blogpost you'll see that they played around with various different designs and deemed this to be the best.

    • @TheAtomicSoul
      @TheAtomicSoul Рік тому

      Wait, @CNCKitchen: If the four diverted tunnels are 1mm each, then the path goes from 1.75mm to 4mm, to nozzle diameter. This not only explains why cold pulling didn't work (4mm down to 1.75mm), but doesn't that effect the flow rate when it starts and stops? Would it work better if each section was closer to 0.43mm to keep the area the same size?

  • @Voyajer.
    @Voyajer. Рік тому +5

    I'm still not enthused by encumbered/not open access designs infiltrating the hobby. FOSS is what got us to where we are now. Same shit has been happening in my other hobbies too.

    • @DUIofPhysics
      @DUIofPhysics Рік тому +3

      It's a challenge, because when you spend 6 months at tens of thousands of generic currency units to develop and something, then release all the info on how it's made... you end up with a pile of asian manufacturers coming along and copying it all and undercutting you heavily.

    • @MinnesotaHomesteading
      @MinnesotaHomesteading Рік тому

      This isn't basic COTS stuff, nowhere close. The v6 ecosystem took us 95% of the way to a perfect print. It takes a lot of time and money to chase the last 5%.

  • @TheEngineerC
    @TheEngineerC Рік тому

    Are the specific heats of all polymers around the same as pla?

  • @Hooahboard
    @Hooahboard Рік тому

    Can this parallel switch deal with regenerative breaking.
    I know there are many of these on the market but they all have the same thing in common, they are used with scooters and ebikes that have manual breaks, and they can't support regenerative setup.
    Please let me know and thank you for your help!

  • @matanarbell2134
    @matanarbell2134 Рік тому

    you had a segment on the CHT that showed them to have 30mm^3 speed...

  • @lawlcake8788
    @lawlcake8788 Рік тому

    Would tungsten carbide high flow nozzles ever be a thing? Been looking for something like that for ages but cant seem to find anything.

  • @DesignPrototypeTest
    @DesignPrototypeTest Рік тому +2

    As always, this is a great video Stefan.

  • @antoniocross5956
    @antoniocross5956 Рік тому

    can you maybe show how to install it on the prusa mini?

  • @DarrenGerbrandt
    @DarrenGerbrandt Рік тому

    I like my Revo and will be upgrading my Ender 3 Max but the socks on the nozzles suck, both of the socks on my 0.4 and 0.6 only lasted about 2 weeks each before breaking off when I went to switch nozzles. Will I get a high flow, maybe someday down the road as my next purchase will be an obxidian nozzle or 2.

  • @3D_Printing
    @3D_Printing 2 місяці тому

    We need more than just a nozzle

  • @Beateau
    @Beateau Рік тому

    For a half second during that into I expected smoke to start pouring towards a 3D printed fan.

  • @DigitalArtisan77
    @DigitalArtisan77 Рік тому

    From the cross section it looks like they mill from nozzle end before freezeplugging or pressing a piece in then milling that part to finish.

  • @jothain
    @jothain Рік тому

    What good it's to split flow as it can't be heated from center anyway?

  • @whatif8741
    @whatif8741 Рік тому +1

    i wonder if the mass added(thumbscrew)on the end of the revo hf is part of the reason why it got a higher flow than CHT. The only way to find out is to make a chonkey CHT nozzle

  • @BestKosmakCZ
    @BestKosmakCZ Рік тому +1

    I think you might not have considered different fans for part cooling in your heater wattage comparison.
    Have you seen what fan comes stock with ratrig machines? (They use 20W server fan for layer cooling)
    Not to mention VZbot, or hevort where their cooling systems are really impressive.
    Other than that, this video was amazing! Thank you for the job you do.

    • @Unscientifically
      @Unscientifically Рік тому

      yea, on my ratrig with a server fan and with 40w revo, I cannot print temps higher than 255C. Otherwise the hotend just cools down and cannot maintain temps.

  • @Made_by_Henne
    @Made_by_Henne Рік тому

    Kannst du mal testen wie groß der Effekt von High-Flow-Düsen auf die Bauteilstabilität bei verschiedenen Extrusionsraten ist?

  • @soulsbreaker
    @soulsbreaker 4 місяці тому

    do I need to get an E3D V6 Adaptor for Prusa MK4/XL to use these rev HF on a prusa mk4?

  • @Random9rA9
    @Random9rA9 Рік тому +2

    Can you please make a Video about recycled PLA and annealing? I'm really interested if Filament from Recycling Fabrik has the same benefits of annealing

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому

      You'll be able to anneal their PLA just like any other with all the warping problems.

    • @Random9rA9
      @Random9rA9 Рік тому

      @@CNCKitchen My question is if recycled filament is stronger than normal filament

  • @trkoo
    @trkoo Рік тому +2

    What about retention? Doesnt the Complex geometry make it harder to pull back? Resulting in stringing with flexible and pet materials?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +1

      Haven't seen more stringing on it, so far.

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 Рік тому

    I've been having trouble with PETG prints on my MK3S+ with revo. I found that cutting the overall printer speed to 70% makes a huge difference. Maybe that means I need more cooling rather than the stock profile? So this is interesting, but I rarely print over 100% speed anyway. I might get the hardened revo......but honestly since I have an mk4 kit ordered I'll probably get a hardened nozzle for that once they become available. I'm really hoping for diamond back, but anway.....

  • @gabriell4031
    @gabriell4031 Рік тому

    Wouldn’t it be better for E3d to make a 60w slightly extended heater? How much more would it be to make the heater 2-3mm taller? What kind of effect would that have on cost vs flow?

  • @jvcubing6137
    @jvcubing6137 Рік тому +6

    have you tested vez3ds goliath hotend yet?, if not this would be increadibly interesting!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +2

      I have not. Gotta ask Mello3D to send one over.

    • @jvcubing6137
      @jvcubing6137 Рік тому

      @@CNCKitchen would be so awesome to see!!!

    • @ShelleyD1
      @ShelleyD1 Рік тому

      @@CNCKitchen the review I've been waiting for

  • @dsp4392
    @dsp4392 Рік тому +3

    Fantastic analysis. I think the value proposition might make sense for some very niche applications. I personally never change nozzle sizes, and a cheap knock off Volcano hotend with a CHT nozzle will outperform the Revo HT. At the price they're going for, I'd rather just buy a separate printer if I ever needed to print with a larger nozzle size.

    • @frankearl9285
      @frankearl9285 Рік тому

      That requires space...and if you're modding for specific things, you'd need to replicate that over multiple printers.
      Like the others, you felt the need to comment. Thankfully, you're more reasonable than the more mouthy in this discussion thread set.

  • @ErtsenPlayGames
    @ErtsenPlayGames Рік тому

    6:55
    YES , IT AFFECT THE FLOW OF CHT !!!!
    try it with just sanding 1mm of the adapter so it will seal it or cut 1-2mm thick spacer from ptfe that you will insert inside to seal it (use filament as a guide before you screw the nozzle in so the spacer wont move around when you squeeze it
    should work great ...you can even use slice engineering Boron Nitride paste to get some extra few mm3s of flow :)
    or better ...go with bondtech vulcano and 1-2 m6 nuts (maybe out of copper or bronze .... im curiouse how it will work )

  • @bps3374
    @bps3374 Рік тому

    genau wie die KSS Bohrung im Wendelbohrer =) So wird das gemacht

  • @Da-Real-Gigachad
    @Da-Real-Gigachad Рік тому +1

    whenever you get the 60w version can you make a tutorial vid on how to install it on the voron? Im not sure how you would change the software when going from the 40w to 60w.

    • @MrTimElmore
      @MrTimElmore Рік тому

      Just a PID tune, no other changes needed.

  • @denisj4996
    @denisj4996 Рік тому

    when i heard the intro music, i thought for second i watching fan testing video xD

  • @jhc500
    @jhc500 Рік тому

    I love my revo nozzles. I change frequently, and I have edited my end gcode to retract enough to allow nozzle and filament changes with the machine off. Is that still going to work on these HF nozzles?

  • @DiThi
    @DiThi Рік тому +1

    For that price it's cheaper to just have multiple hotends to hot swap with the voron's afterburner (which I use on a prusa i3).

  • @t_c5266
    @t_c5266 Рік тому

    Does the bondtech cht fit in a standard ender 3 pro?

  • @martinlacher7932
    @martinlacher7932 Рік тому

    Have you done the same tests with the rapido hf or uhf? I‘m interested in the concrete results. Btw afaik „rapido“ is Spanish and has the accent (Betonung) on the first syllable.

  • @Joyntie
    @Joyntie Рік тому

    maybe this will work for me, for some reasone i never got the CHT to work, it always clocked up....

  • @shy-Denise
    @shy-Denise 10 місяців тому

    I want this nozzle in my Bambu X1c 🙈

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 Рік тому

    Hmm, I've been able to run my Axi 2 with a cht insert type knockoff nozzle and I get 25mm^3 with good extrusion.

  • @crosswindjones
    @crosswindjones 11 місяців тому

    That looks like a modified stealthburner front cover -at least. Would you be able to share that mod?

  • @kurtnelle
    @kurtnelle Рік тому

    @CNC Kitchen, is anyone out there preheating the filament before it goes through the nozzle? I can't find a single project that's doing that. Perhaps you know of one?

  • @michaeld954
    @michaeld954 Рік тому

    will this cause more cloging?

  • @bleach_drink_me
    @bleach_drink_me Рік тому

    At that price I will keep waiting on the revo. That adapter to use a normal nozzle on a revo would be welcomed.

  • @evafpv
    @evafpv Рік тому

    Curious what issues you've heard of with printing TPU with a CHT. I'm a FPV pilot so almost all of my printing these days is TPU for drone parts like GoPro mounts and using a 0.5mm CHT nozzle has allowed me to push speeds up to 50mm/s for printing some parts on my Voron V0 with standard 95A TPU. Cosmetic quality isn't "perfect" at this speed, there's some very minor surface defects, but I'll trade that for being able to print parts in just over 1/3 of the time any day.
    Always impressed with your vids! The level of care you put into each one is inspiring. I've been trying to devise a guide to TPU printing since I've been less than satisfied with what's out there on the subject but it's daunting.

    • @specialingu
      @specialingu Рік тому

      i think i had trouble with some tpe 83 shore and a cht or cht clone nozzle.... id get very very thin walls, and then it would stop. i switched to a larger normal nozzle, and it behaved much better. im guessing its because the center of the filament is running head first into a obstruction.

  • @D0J0Master
    @D0J0Master Рік тому

    Might have been in the vid but I couldnt find it, how much faster in % terms is this new nozzel in comparison to a standard? And you think there will be a mod for bambu systems?

  • @realgoose
    @realgoose Рік тому +5

    Vector3D had different conclusions than you Stefan. He found the high flow Revo is better than their stock, which was lower than a stock V6. The CHT won overall with a better flow rate. He used your test print as well.
    Wonder if the adapter contributed to worse results?

    • @jamesclive-smith3383
      @jamesclive-smith3383 Рік тому

      Vector3D found its lower than a Pheatus Rapido with a stock V6 nozzle. The Rapido is way longer which is why it performs as well as it does

    • @realgoose
      @realgoose Рік тому

      @@jamesclive-smith3383 Am I wrong about the CHT nozzle having a better flow rate vs the Revo high flow.

    • @jaro6985
      @jaro6985 Рік тому +2

      The issue was probably the teflon tape, insulating the tip.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +3

      Adam used different hotends which makes "nozzles" hard to compare. Yet his results go hand in hand with my conclusion. Revo HF is good for it's size but if you want max flow, get another hotend.

    • @realgoose
      @realgoose Рік тому

      @@CNCKitchen thanks for clarifying. You were attempting to make an apples to apples comparison. So if someone took the Revo HF nozzle design and put it on a traditional V6 style hotend… It would beat the CHT head to head? So Revo’s shortcoming is the length of the heat zone/break?

  • @thorgraum1462
    @thorgraum1462 Рік тому

    where do you get that adapter?

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x Рік тому

    a teflon washer ,acting as a gasket , would be a quick fix for that leak

  • @marcusbuschbeck1121
    @marcusbuschbeck1121 Рік тому +3

    Wow what a beautiful engineered design! The CHT v6 0.4 is my everyday Nozzle for the Flsun Q5, give me melting gives me security and relieves the extruder printing PCTG and PETG. This 20€ was worth it.

  • @Eluderatnight
    @Eluderatnight Рік тому

    Have you seen the VZbot with goliath hot end?

  • @IsaacNewtongue
    @IsaacNewtongue 7 місяців тому

    I wonder if this type of nozzle affects the multi- colour effect of bi-colour and tri-colour filaments?

  • @pahvalrehljkov
    @pahvalrehljkov 11 місяців тому

    how do they heat dome in middle? first outer part, then filament then dome gets heated. so it doesnt heat from inside until it receives enough heat from filament tube part.

    • @vipervidsgamingplus5723
      @vipervidsgamingplus5723 3 місяці тому

      That dome piece is connected physically to the nozzle at the very end of the extruder. So when it heats up, the whole thing heats up all at once.

  •  Рік тому

    Doesnt the bambu lab x1c and the creality k1 need higher flow rates for printing at high speeds. How do they achieve that without these expensive nozzles?

  • @AmaroqStarwind
    @AmaroqStarwind Рік тому

    You should see if you can find or make an aerogel-infused sock.