Asustor Flashstor Gen 2 NVMe NAS Revealed - GAME CHANGER!
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00:00 - SSD NAS - I'm Not Angry
00:57 - Video Start
01:16 - Why Was the Flashstor 6 and 12 Pro So Popular?
02:10 - Asustor Flashstor Gen 2 NAS Reveal
03:16 - The HOLY GRAIL of SSD NAS?
04:00 - Why The Flashstor Gen 1 was NOT Perfect...
04:40 - Flashstor Gen 2 Specifications
08:13 - Flashstor Gen 2 Ports and Connections
10:15 - TrueNAS and UnRAID Support?
11:42 - Price and Release Date of the Flashstor Gen2
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Lol, I don't need any of the products you review but I keep coming back because you are great entertainment. Always positive vibes, always current information, always excellent advice to the consumer. Thank you.
0:37 You caught us in our plot to compete against Synology! Red handed!
You just took the qnap and ugreen behind the shed and shot them. I've been waiting for your G2. As a photographer and videographer, I have large files to work across my network. Glad I have been patient
well done for listening to the users and adding more lanes + opening up the OS choice, it means a LOT to serious users. It's an impressive little machine guess I should reconsider it since I passed on the first one for the above reasons
@@testshoot Lmao.
@@LiLBitsDK I fight hard for the customer. Opening up the OS was hard and they were very reluctant. But I had the backing of you guys.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Without video output, I am curious how to get a third party OS on the device?
been watching your channel more and more, thanks for keeping eyes on all things NAS for us! truly the most helpful channel when it comes to considering the numerous variables and use-cases, so thank you for your efforts!
Amazing stuff!! Thanks a lot for this highlight to ring in the weekend, very much looking forward to the final specs, but this is quite promising already!
You are a really great presenter, i enjoy hearing you talk haha and obviously learning about NAS and DAS's from you has been super informative, really appreciate this channel
I watched the whole deal.. i want a nas thats low power , upgradable and well supported the opensource software is appealing
Thanks!
Thank you for being amazing bud. You could have just trusted YT to pay enough for the ads and been on your way. But you went the extra mile. Frankly, you made my Friday! Cheers bud
Ryzen VC314 is a 4c/8t embedded version of Zen 3+ “Rembrandt”. The Rembrandt iGPU is disabled.
Dude, I love your channel. Your charisma, energy, knowledge and you're straight to the point. I appreciate that you don't pontificate on the fluff. You're clearly my favorite and my go to for all things NAS'. Many blessings to you.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Looking forward to some detailed testing on it. That said, with the PCIE4x1 and 12 of them, it needs to be able to fully saturate for both reads and writes the 10gb network ports and honestly both network ports since it has 2 of them. We are seeing a lot of these new devices with SSDs not really perform as you might expect over a 10gb port. Maybe this one will do it.
We think we can attain up to 2 GB/s with these two ports combined. The thing is, we still only get 20 lanes. We can split the lanes a certain way but all CPUs have allocated sets of lanes as well and we can't just split lanes willy nilly. As well because it's 10GbE either we give 4 lanes to a few M.2 slots which gives us a big bottleneck over the Ethernet ports, or we spread the performance out so that you get the maximum use out of the device as possible with the performance roughly equalling all of the buses in the NAS. Our philosophy is to avoid bottlenecks and increase the use.
I can't wait to get my All Flash nas !! SOON !!
SPEED!!!!!!!
Can’t decide if i should go for this or synology ds923+ ….any thoughts which usertype is gonna benefit more? I am indecisive
I might actually buy one if they could make their NAS with the sides straight up and down and not all slanty and wonky.
That's not a selling point for me either. It wouldn't stop me buying one if the performance is right, but I'd far rather see a deeper unit, square, with space for a 120mm fan. Same with mini-PCs. They're great, but the form factor is begging to be tweaked so you can just slap a normal fan in them for cooling. Although I would still buy this finances permitting because its the current best entry level choice for an NVME NAS.
I was kind of kidding around but I definitely don't like the slanted design. At some point in the near future I will probably be experimenting with an all flash NAS. I'm hoping QNAP comes out with a V2 of their tbs-h574tx with at least 64 GB ram.
Yes and with a rack mount face plate kit!
Love the watch! I'm rocking a Casio OCW-T200. I enjoy your videos very much. I also just realized I haven't been subscribed. 😆
My gen 1 Flashstor Pro was a huge night and day upgrade from the Drobo spinning disk NAS that I was running in my home for backup and serving media. I am not editing/rendering 8K video so not sure how much I need all that Gen 2 goodness but great to hear my favorite NAS of all time is getting an upgrade.
Thank you for your support!
I bought my Flashtor6 on your recomandations last year, absalutly love it to death. I use it as my every day driver, only fire up my Truenas servers on the weekend for my 1,2,3 backups. Excited for Asustor with there gen 2, as true compition in the NAS enviroment will only produce better quality products and cheaper prices. ( Keep the bigger NAS companys honest !! ) Thanks for the update.
Thank you for your support!
THIS! I was hoping Gen 2 would come out before next Christmas. This is definitely something I am interested in. Was going down the DIY road for a flash nas...but Asustor comes through big time with this one!
you beat me to a nearly identical comment :)
So close but for now i'll stick with my diy approach. Really wish there was a low power epyc 7000 embedded, it would probably bring the cost up but you would have enough pcie lanes and embedded graphics. This honestly isn't bad for gen2 though, it really does address most of the issues with the original. I wonder how long it's going to take before we see some 'custom' ARM chips for NAS/homelab use.
Just for info, the additional check-bits in memory ECC schemes *are* known as parity bits because that is how they are calculated and checked. Checksums are different, and not great at finding errors on a word by word basis. Interesting NAS box too.
Brillant upgrade - will get one myself. They fixed it all. Amazing.
I never got around to buying the first gen because it was always sold out or selling for 20-50% over MSRP.
Now this comes out (hopefully by Q3) but flash storage costs 50% more than it did a year ago, which is wild.
We just need 24TB M2s and I'll be smiling. Once its under £200 an M2 chip that is. Its good looking otherwise though, just 3k or so for a NAS and i'd be there but no quite yet.
24TB M.2s... You sir... have a data problem!
@@nascompares or a data retention challenge to be solved 😉
FYI your 'Asustor Flashstor Gen 2 NAS News' post has this line in it: "That said, Asustor have shit a very clear and confident ‘first shot’ in the Flashstor Gen 2 and given the popularity, dominance and good will that was achieved with their Flashstor pipping everyone else to the post, it’s a very smart move to expand this series as soon as possible." ... The typo me giggle, so thanks for that. ;-)
Hope that doesn't hit the fan!
(just corrected) I mean - I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, WHAT A TYPO! But on the other hand, I'm flattered you clearly read the article. Cheers for the heads up on the mistake bud!
Plex would be sub-par on this system compared with CPU with integrated graphics?
Good to see the Flashstor v1 was a success and they are coming back for a second gen
Thank you!
How do you enable the password on a self-encrypting enterprise drive?
I just got an Exos x24 SED and was going to just put it straight into my PC, but there seem to be no way to activate the SED functionality. Do you have to put them in a NAS to enable the encryption? Been a long time since you've talked about the Exos series of drives. I've been unable to find anyone who talks in dept of the SED functionality of enterprise drives.
Could I edit videos directly from this? And, if I can, could I sit the unit about 60 feet away? (as I already have Cat6 Ethernet installed)
Can someone explain to me how I would utilize the two 10gig Ethernet ports? Like what would my set up be? I was picturing plugging this into my eero pro router but now I feel like that’s too simple.
It'll be interesting to find out how to install alternate os'es on these without graphics output...
lets see how it comprares to ugreen offer... I remember it was cheaper than this, albeit in that version pre-release pricing scheme. Can it be used as a plex player and server...
FINALLY!!!!!! ECC in a more budget friendly product. I always knew it was possible while everyone else said it was not, at least at a decent price point. As long as you can still load TureNAS/Unraid on these Gen 2 models, they will be pretty much everything I could have wanted!! Too bad I just built my all flash setup. This Gen 2 model will probably be more power efficient than mine. Great to see Asustor thinking about consumers in a tier other than the lowest common denominator.
It's possible if you use the right CPU. None of Intel's offerings in this class support ECC except the Denverton CPUs.
*smells like Intel Atom*
Wait what! That's awesome news!
I wanted to mention this on the call earlier (THIS was the video I was processing!) but thought your TVS-h574TX fan noise issues were priority. It'll be interesting to see how this system handles TWELVE BAYS cranking out 4x1 speeds and stays quiet...
How does the system manage TRIM requests with a RAID setup?
Im waiting for a rackmount version of this. M.2 storage is not considered enterprise grade due to low TBW, but for many write-once-read-many style applications this would be absolutely perfect. Especially considering the price of m2 storage it would be quite easy to just install 12x2TB sticks while you may only effectively need a part of that - to up the TBW of the array that way.
We've had users take our Gen1 device and place it in a rack plate to make it compatible for a rackmount setup.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Yes, it is alway possible to put the unit on a shelf in a rack. But rackmounting an appliance is not just about the shelf, it's about easily accessing the buttons and ports.
Some manufacturers are actually offering a rackmount adapter for their desktop appliances that bring all the ports in front. Netgate is one of them. The chassis of the appliance it only designed with additional screw hole at the bottom to fasten the appliance to the shelf. Other systems may work too, as long as the desktop unit is solidly attached to the rack.
It is just unfortunate that the height of the unit is 1.9 inches, which is slightly more than 1RU, it would require 2RU of space in a rack.
It's good news that they were happy enough with the previous products that they're doing more. It'll probably be the Gen 3 version by the time I can get one but it's great to see the line progressing so fast. I'm sure it'll encourage the competition to crack on as well. I severely doubt I'd actually need anything more than the previous version - I'd be going from a Western Digital 2 bay NAS that's horribly loud and slow, to a huge speed improvement and noise improvement. I'd guess that would feel like a much bigger leap. Given the minimal price difference between Gen 3 and 4 NVME it'd be nice to be able to take advantage of the extra speed and more modern hardware, even if you aren't maxing it out.
Figures this situation would develop almost immediately after receiving my gen 1 12 driver Flashstor. Now I have to have the hard decision tree of "return it and wait for the new one" or keep and see how the new one shakes out.
Holy sh_t! Ecc memory too? Those specs are impressive!
Are you sure? Often they just mean on die ecc from ddr5
@@MasterMind187b No. It's specifically ECC.
Ryzon (its what you said) does not have transcoding (GPU) does it?
No iGPU.
Question: Can you use Google Coral NVME to run Frigate? Alongside with standard NVMEs?
I very much doubt it, but will ask Asustor in the 'almost certain' follow up Q&A
Say I start out with 500g M2 cards and want to do in place 'hot swap' updrade to 2 TB cards. Assume ALL card slots are populated and configed as ONE large volume so no empty slots in my example. How difficult is that process?
Bob
I doubt this supports hot swap.
Please ask Asustore if they can make a semi enterprise model that uses off the shelf Ryzen processors and can support up to 24 U.2 drives. Even at 1x PCIe for each drive would be great. Essentially this would be a competitor to the Qnap TS-h1290FX
I jumped and cringed every time you threw those SSD's....😂😂
Yeah, I don't feel great about it...
So this would be bad for plex 4k streaming?
If they continue along this path, maybe we'll see a decent u.2 nas with sfp28 and a gpu in a year or two... Now that will be an absolute killer
That's a tall order, but maybe. Tbh I see QNAP tackling this first though.
First time I've ever been interested in buying a flash server for less than 32k, should be a perfect little storage unit for a Plex Server.
I mean...I have so many Q's... 32K, come on Elon! Go on!
you must test the speeds and behavior with pcie 3.0 vs 4.0 /vs 5.0 would be nice too/, also if it has 20 lanes free and uses only 4 to communicate with the motherboard there are 16 lanes free? it could have 16 m.2s using one lane each
We will definitely send one to him when it's ready.
And Computex! Don't go forgetting Computex, people!
I have Asustor flashstor 12 pro Gen1. If I buy flashstor 12 Gen2 will it be possible to insert SSD from Flashtor Gen1 into Flashtor Gen2 and make previously created RAID work automatically without losing data? Or I need to create a full backup, insert SSDs into Gen2, reinitialize RAID and then copy all the data to new RAID?
Backup and restore.
You should always have backups no matter what. But SSDs should transfer over without issue and act like nothing happened.
Can i install omv or any other Nass software here like in normal pc?
Sure! But you're on your own.
Meanwhile on Synology...
Ouch!!!!!! Burn
🤣
Can't believe Synology has not even attempted one yet. At least QNAP has 2 different systems already, even if they are not perfect.
@@burkec33 I'm sure they will.
Of course with quad 1G ports and 1 proprietary 10GbE upgrade, paired with heavily vendor taxed expansion units because "hYbRiD ExPaNsIoN". Don't forget vendor locked SSD&RAM upgrade, no quicksync with an aging Xeon D from 2015 as cherry on top.
Reference: FS1018 and DS3622xs+
@@burkec33 Synology feel like they're targeting more of the SMB/enterprise sector of late than the consumer/pro-sumer market, and as someone who runs the IT for a seven figure turnover company, I'd rather have stability and support and be a bit behind the curve features wise, than bleeding edge features of unknown stability or longevity. They do have all-flash systems, but they're quite specialised and are currently SATA only (I'd expect them to move on to U.2 or whatever the 2.5" hotswap NVME format is called this week, in the next couple of years).
There's absolutely a market for kit like this at the consumer level, but Synology simply aren't interested in entering it.
Does it support an external GPU (for Plex transcoding)?
I am working hard to push them to add eGPU support!
RIP Ugreen Flash NAS 💀
LMAO! Have fun! It periodically drops from the network and requires a hard reboot to get back. Its a MESS!
@@Francisco-ke4lx it does sound very much like you have a unit you should have sent back under warranty.
Better processor with GPU could still be wort it for some people and you can also use some of there devices with extensions or 2.5" SSDs to achieve 24 TB of SSD storage.
no Thunderbolt
@@TechnoNates Yes Thunderbolt capability.
Does not having an iGPU cause any issues? What are the drawbacks?
The only drawback is that it does not support transcoding.
If we were to use a similar Intel CPU, we'd lose:
11 PCI Express lanes
PCI Express 4.0
Dual 10GbE
USB4
ECC RAM
The ability to add more than 16 GB of RAM.
I wish they would sell a rack mounted version of these. Would be epic
I would doubt it, but I hope they do make available a way to rack or wall-mount the FLASHSTOR. Making the model natively rackmount would require to completely re-engineer the chassis with metal instead of plastic, that will add some cost that many users may not be interested in.
However, it would be nice to see a rackmount adapter, just like Netgate is offering as an option for their desktop appliances.
Just a heads up on ddr5 and ecc. All ddr5 are ecc to handle the higher speeds.
No no. Our DDR5 is officially ECC. With parity chips.
Sad no integrated graphic so i will keep their Gen 1.... However waiting for your Plex test on the Gen 2.
100% agree, means no sale from me.
@@keithmiller9665 The problem is, Intel doesn't have any good offerings for an all flash NAS.
If I use a similar Intel CPU:
I lose 11 PCI Express lanes
I lose PCI Express 4.0
I lose ECC RAM
I lose the ability to put more than 16 GB of RAM
I lose USB4
I lose 10GbE
It's not worth it. We sell NAS devices with Quicksync, but for this NAS, it's a no brainer for us.
I want this ONLY for my Plex Server!!!
This would have been perfect if it included an HDMI output for an easier way of accessing the bios. I would maybe have considered getting it then.
That said, I don't see much use for this for me after backing the 6-bay and 8-bay UGreen NAS'es recently on Kickstarter as those also have dual 10GbE ports and dual m.2 Nvme SSD support and that's more than enough for me since I don't run many VMs.
When it's released, I'll make a guide on how to access the BIOS.
@@ASUSTOR_YT That would be great! Thanks! 😁
*Everybody Liked That*
@@ASUSTOR_YT I'm guessing there is a header with a serial (RS-232 or UART) port on the board?
@@marcogenovesi8570 No. Gotta wait for the release :D Can't spoil the fun!
Can I ask where the OS is supposed to be one? 1 of the 6 NVMEs? or where?
The ADM OS is stored on a built-in 8GB eMMC drive, which is independent of the NVME slots. So all the NVME drive can be used exclusively for content storage.
For those who plan to install a different NAS OS (TrueNAS, UNRaid, etc.) it is recommended to disable the eMMC and use one of the NVME drive to store the OS.
This is one of the best content providers.
Amazing device if youre on SSDs and have big workloads. But need bulk capacity and HDDs are still the way to go at this point.
All true, but there are plenty of good HDD server options in the turnkey market, just glad to see a 12 bay NVMe option tbh
I was certain they will release a new version soon. Lets hope this trend continues.
Yep, they would have been mad to not capitalize on the first gen's popularity. Plus (and I should have said this in the video) I really respect that the brand clearly reinvested the $ made in gen 1 back into the business and future of the series and didn't just cash out and make this a 1 off.
My biggest problem with Gen 1 is the heat. The unit didn't last long and m.2 drive died 1 after another due to overheat. 100 Cpu and 70c m.2 while idle is not acceptable. And Asustor has been silent with the design flaw.
The odd thing here is that you say that the lower model has 2x5G Ethernet and the higher model has 2x 10G Ethernet. According to AMD's product sheet on their website, all models in this range have 2x 10G Ethernet.
Since you can run 3rd party O/S's, how about running DSM ? Or is that a bridge too far ?
We don't have access to Synology's code to even think about doing that.
*dances merrily on a legal tightrope*
It can probably run Xpenology (which is a repack of DSM for normal PC usage done by third party community)
Will they make a version that can be mounted in a rack?
I would doubt it, but I hope they do make available a way to rack or wall-mount the FLASHSTOR. Making the model natively rackmount would require to completely re-engineer the chassis with metal instead of plastic, that will add some cost that many users may not be interested in.
However, it would be nice to see a rackmount adapter, just like Netgate is offering as an option for their desktop appliances.
I cannot put this on my ups-lan-nas place because it is 20x110cm shelf. It is perfect other than that.
Also even 6 bay is overkill for my needs as specs. I just want a low power (means ssd), silent (means ssd), fast (means ssd) nas. I only need 4 ssds two on raid 1 to be safe. One raid 1 for my personal data and other for work. So 8gb ram, enough performing cpu, 4 ssd slots (pcie 4 x2), 2,5 gig lan, silent, low power nas is what i need. I will backup my photos and stream files for my cad. I wont use any cloud sh!t or any other stuff. I even wont connect it to internet because of security. It will directly connect my computers one 2,5 g and not to the internet. Also i like one button backup.
Does it also cost 900€ for the blank product? Home NAS without cheap old server stuff would never be that popular nowadays. The Qnap and so on stuff with a reasonably performant CPU and the chance to upgrade RAM will inevitably cost you a fortune. The Flashtor 6 needs 10 GbE. What inetrests me, would you need to sacrifice slots for parity or can you manage with other RAID options. Especially on the 6-Bay version.
Nice try, but no Intel Quicksync = No Sale. I need video hardware encoding/decoding. This means AT LEAST an Intel n100 CPU. Stick a n100 CPU in this and I will buy INSTANTLY!
I absolutely agree that QuickSync is a must have…but it doesn’t necessarily have to be one the same device. Get a micro Optiplex with an i3-7100 (HD 630), chuck that anywhere on your network….and you’re done. When adding quick sync to your network can be done for under £50, I don’t understand why people are so laser focused on having it all in one solution.
If we stick an N100 into this, we lose ECC RAM, a good memory controller, 10GbE, numerous independent M.2 slots and more.
Now I'm kind of regretting going with U.2 SSDs for my server machine instead of M.2.
Secondhand enterprise drives were cheaper than they would've been on M.2, but they don't fit in devices like this.
But U2 DOES open the door to bigger capacities, better durability and sata compatibility with adapters (just trying to 'silver lining ' this for you a bit
At first I was bummed about only one lane per drive, but then I realized that there are plenty of situations in which an NVMe fails saturate 4 Gen 3 lanes much less 4 Gen 4 lanes.
i think it's time to move on from 10G to faster networks because it's too easy to saturate the 10G connection, and nvmes operate at so much faster speeds, it's such a shame not to be able to remotely utilize all this speed over ethernet connection. i'm still not sure whether it's better to get a device like this or a device with pcie slot where you can place a 40/100G network adapters. even a usb connection is four times faster. the NAS situation nowadays are kind of sad that sometimes directly attaching an SSD over thunderbolt (so about 2800MB/s) is a better way to go if you're looking for speed.
Tbh it's the CPU that needs to be highlights as the network overhead too. Sure, slap in a 2x 25G/50G card in a server and 12 Gen 4 SSDs... technically... TECHNICALLY those SSD at 7K each should be able to saturate...but the CPU would need to be hench as F! That's when we are tip toing into the real dull scale Ryzens and Xeons
Make a square box and give me a rack mount faceplate kit!
Ask me anything!
What's the idle power consumption? Thinking about where to put it. Also how much heat are we talking about?
@@makatron While we will be displaying this at Computex, we're still tweaking the design to attain maximum balance between performance and silence. Since the board and software are being tweaked, we don't have official numbers just yet.
How much and when? Specifically EMEA/Ireland.
@@ASUSTOR_YTkeep us posted, I'm in serious need of one of these for event coverage since having things in a single place for people to edit works best.
@@vonEitzen RIght now our focus is on the Lockerstor Gen3 first and Flashstor Pro Gen2 is next. Let me ask on Monday when back in the office.
I do Wish on the none pro it was just 1 10g port instead of 2 5g i and so wish they picked a different cpu
We didn't say anything about using 5G ports on the Flashstor.
Wait ， no igp means no hardware accrelated decode encode ?????
Whyyyyyy
This is not a plex… this is tool to people who handle big files and need some serious speed!
Plex systems don`t need these speeds.. any slow speed nas is good enough for that task.
Some of us are on the cutting edge and just want to drop the spinning disks at this point.
I was all NVME in my desktop a decade ago. Now I’m trying to go all NVME in my storage. I have eight 4TB NVME drives just laying around at this point. I’d love to get rid of my QNAP NAS and i7 mini PC and consolidate it to an all flash NAS but no one is hitting all the marks yet.
If the UGreen had eight slots I’d already have my order in.
WOOO ECC support
Thank you!
Would prefer SFP+ ports for networking instead of RJ45.
Was gonna buy Gen 1 gonna hold off
It's a pretty good product. I would greatly prefer a system with a nice big 120MM, slow moving fan. Fanless systems are bogus unless they use a metal heatsink chassis. Heat is a killer, and temperature changes cause circuits to fail. If this has RAID 60, it will be a game changer for sure.
It's not fanless.
Why not a single 10gig for the 6 version?
We haven't even announced if we are doing a 6 version lmao.
@@ASUSTOR_YT Well in that case - please consider a 10gbe nic on the 6 version, in fact - a more square chassis would make it easier to fit in a case. Otherwise it's perfect! Oh, maybe usb-c power in, if i get to make wishes.
@@seethe639 It wouldn't make sense to include 5GbE anyways. Dual 10GbE is built into the CPU and it would cost PCI Express lanes to implement 5GbE.
USB-C power in would be impossible. It just doesn't support the power requirements needed.
Exciting..wish this came out before the Ugreen Kickstarter closed😔
Will keep an eye on this for a second node... Looks promising...v1 of this was disappointing 🙂
Why only one usb4 port and no thunderbolt?
Two USB4 ports. Supports Thunderbolt features.
Thunderbolt also!!? BADASS
Guys, Asustor…we need quick sync in this machines…any intel version please
We have Quicksync. In our other products.
But, for a new NAS, there are no good modern options from Intel. This one in particular is not a plex machine. It's a super fast all SSD content creation machine.
If we used the Intel offerings, we'd lose PCI Express 4.0, 11 PCI Express lanes, 10GbE, ECC RAM, the ability to add more than 16 GB of RAM.
How about a rack mount kit to sweeten the system!!! I don't know about you, but that case look like a smatch case when you put your super computer on top of a NAS and crush it. Thank you. Please continue the great reviews.
Got a Q&A with Asustor on this + Lockerstor Gen 3, I'll try and add your Q about rack mounts if it's not too late
I agree! Unfortunately, the height of the desktop unit is 1.9 inches, just above the 1RU threshold. ASUSTOR has clearly not taken the rackmountability into consideration when designing the chassis.
So clearly 12x4 is 48 lanes. I’m assuming there is a pci switch chip. Is there a lane diagram anywhere? What pci switch chip are they using?
Not all slots will have 4 lanes. Some slots will even stay at PCIe Gen 3
- Gen 4×4 = 1 Slot
- Gen 4×1 = 4 Slots
- Gen 4×2 = 3 Slots
- Gen 3×4 = 1 Slot
- Gen 3×2 = 1 Slot
- Gen 3×1 = 2 Slot
@@viaujoc well that’s worse than a switch chip :(
The reveal of the reveal.
...of the reveal
@@nascompares Lol. Sorry if I sounded rude. I love your energy in the videos, and loved the Flashstor Gen 2 specs. Just frustrated that it'll take sometime to be available.
@@rael_gc We'll have more info at Computex.
Need one with a plexable Intel CPU now.
We have one? Original Flashstor has an Intel CPU.
Does it have an SHR compatible raid mode?
Afraid not. *looks over shoulders* not entirely sure why Asustor don't have one of those yet.
@@nascompares Really disappointing that all of these NAS makers don't offer this one killer feature of Synology. Especially considering SHR isn't actually anything that special, it's just Raid5/6 MDADM software array isn't it? I don't see the point of buying these NAS machines if they aren't super straight forward and simple to manage the array. And upgrading the array is one of the most troublesome and frustrating spots of network storage. SHR makes this so simple.
Thoughts?
Once again, no rack mount version...
BURNER+++
I'd buy the 12 Slot version if it had a better CPU.
Due to bit decay, hard drives will not be abandoned;
Nvme is super fast, but it simply is not long lasting. Buyer beware.
And massive capacity. Don't forget massive capacity!
아니 사자마자 후속이 나온다고??
Two decades ago, it will be cost literally millions, and now it's reasonable SOHO-line product! I like it, but have no tasks for this device today.
Why any manufacturer would release a home/SMB NAS without Intel Quick Sync or a PCIe slot escapes me. Don't something like 80 percent of home NAS uses run Plex or Jellyfin or something like that? It's a misshapen thing, isn't it?
It has USB4. It can function like a PCI Express socket. The problem is, Intel doesn't have any good offerings.
If I use a similar Intel CPU:
I lose 11 PCI Express lanes
I lose PCI Express 4.0
I lose ECC RAM
I lose the ability to put more than 16 GB of RAM
I lose USB4
I lose 10GbE
It's not worth it. We sell NAS devices with Quicksync, but for this NAS, it's a no brainer for us.
Will no doubt cover this in our follow up Q&A, but aside from the ECC support, why was the Emb.Ryzenb opted for over an intel Core (eg the i5-1235U that's getting bandied about at the moment? The chip support by AMD?
@@ASUSTOR_YT I'm sorry, but UGREEN is about to mass-ship an all-flash NAS that uses an Intel processor, has USB4 with Thunderbolt support, takes up to 64GB RAM and has 10G Ethernet. If you build around DDR5 instead of DDR4, you gain on-chip ECC. Not server class ECC, but probably fine for marketing purposes.
@@jeffnew1213 We use DDR5, Have thunderbolt support, dual 10GbE and up to 96 GB of RAM support with ECC. UGreen has nothing on us lmao.
@@jeffnew1213 Some of us - I'd say most of us in this audience - want something a bit better than 'marketing' ECC.
That you think that DDR5 ECC should be used for marketing says everything anyone needs to know about people pushing uGreen kit.
DDR5 onboard ECC verifies the integrity of the data on the DIMM - and nowhere else. It's a requirement as NAND speeds and capacities increase.
Full ECC as per this device, verifies the integrity of the data between the DIMM and the memory controller on the CPU.
These two are not the same. DDR5 ECC will gladly allow flipped bits to eat your software defined storage array, it's only *marginally* better than no ECC at all.
TAKE MY GODDAMNED MONEY!!! 💸 When can we buy this?? I’m ready to put some 8TB Sabrents in this badboy!!!
I really couldn't imagine buying it with this (I think) incredibly low quality looking plastic chassis. 🙈 Looks like a TV console from the 90s. They made a gen 2 and didn't occur to them to improve the design?
I mean, it DOES look like a PS4... but also, clearly they are sticking to their guns with the aesthetic. I respect that
I agree it looks hideous but it's a computer for storage data, not a piece of art to hang on your wall. Frankly if it's in your eyeline anyway, you're probably doing something wrong. Not that I think that excuses it not being a decent looking aluminium box, with space for a 120m fan but even the mini-PC crowd have only got halfway to that design point.
My Gen1 sits in a fan cooled cabinet well out of sight. It could be pink with sparkles and I wouldn't care.
The lack of plex transcoding is bothersome.
We have one with transcoding. Flashstor Gen1 series.
Wait, the Gen2 won’t or can’t run as my Plex server?
I want to fight the NASCompares guy at a bar
My word we have alot to unpack here *clicks pens and picks up notepad*, so why a bar?
@@nascompares 😁
video starts at 2:19
He, Robbie. I don't think you have enough NAS devices in your office there. When are you going to get serious and get some more hardware?
Point taken! Building a new studio as we speak and it's surprising tidier........for now
@@nascompares You should do like Linus Sebastian and do a yard sale and sell to the lowest bidders 😜
asus woken up to ms-01 and realised that all of their offering stinks and they have to start being tad more pro customer 😂
We're not ASUS. We're ASUSTOR and we are run separately. We've planned this product for months.
@@ASUSTOR_YT ms-01 been out for months and in the pipeline for over a year. Nice try. But hey, I’m sure I’m just hallucinating the fact that even corporate is starting to procure cheap minipc from china because those do the job, are fairly flexible and hobbyist can mod them to their heart content. My business procured 4 ms-01 as cluster nodes (mostly witness nodes), just as a fluke, not because it gives fair performance costing 1/20 of any near alternative.
@@tommybronze3451 I have no idea what you are talking about. After the release of the Flashstor Gen1, we immediately got to work on our second generation. It takes at least a year to release a successor.