@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
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@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
Very interesting. We still have an older custom-built RAID-6 server using hi-end spinning drives and 60 TB. It is reliable and only had 2 drive failures in 8 years. But it is a pain with sharing on the network. It uses one Mac as the gateway for any other users to connect. One attractive thing originally was connecting with Thunderbolt 2 for extra speed, but the optical cables proved to be very flaky and very sensitive to heat and if you looked at the cables wrong, it would disconnect. If that gateway Mac needs a reboot, everyone using the server needs to save and log off until that Mac is back up. It also needs special drivers and other issues that make it a pain. It does have 2-drive redundancy and are hot-swapable which is nice. Just have to use the exact same type of drive and if you use larger drives, I guess it's hard wired into not seeing the extra storage. How reliable, long-term, are current SSDs? Would this be a good option to replace my current mostly-custom server?
BTRFS would have probably been a better choice of file system. BTRFS is a modern copy-on-write file system that supports bit healing, snapshots, and other features.
Nice! 1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS? 2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful? 3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
I have 3 85” tvs and none are LG. I know it’s a decent brand but after this ad showed me more about LG than I ever know. I will certainly look at LG for my next update. This is a good product video.
The issue with these systems is that you can never saturate the LAN port. Just one SSD does over 4.5GB in read which equals 45Gb. You can better opt with a solution with cheap standard 2.5" SSDs like a NAS or external enclosure. 4 SSDs in RAID-5 equal max 23TB in net storage.
The issue is, SATA SSDs provide lower random IO. It is true that the sequential performance of NVMe SSDs is limited by the architecture of the NAS, but the random performance of NVMe SSDs is not bottlenecked and much higher.
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
This is an average machine that doesn't draw too many watts. The SFF is the main selling point but it runs incredibly hot up to 80C on the cpu if some mods are not made to add fans. Currently Running ZFS on this machine and only Read and write about 100Mb/s
Don't fall for it, unless you have a pretty fast network and you just want storage. The price is good, but the thermals, the lmited functionality, the slow CPU, the lack of proper software like the one you find in a Synology or Qnap, the lack of true hotswap etc. But if you just want shared storage it seems to be an interesting platform. You will get no benefit from the gen 4 ssd, so if you can get 3 generation it will be better (not only for price but heat).
lol I just saw you video and I already had this wishlisted for Christmas on amazon after doing research a couple of months ago, flash SSD storage is king compared to old mechanical SATA hard drives. Thank you for you review and insight, now for sure I am going to buy it. This will be my media server (I have not decided jellyfin or plex yet). I would be curious what software you would use for a media server, mabey a next video.
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
The 10G NIC means it is not much faster than a single SSD. If you just want "one very high capacity SSD" which you can share on the network, then this is fine. Assuming the Mac is running each SSD at full speed, it will be twice as fast, at least and I presume Mac's can still share their disks. You could plug in multiple SSD's as USB devices and share them. Just as fast for the network, much faster for the local device.
ServeTheHome did a review and found that "on average, each drive here has roughly the bandwidth equivalent of a PCIe Gen2 x1 lane" due to the pcie mux switches employed in this configuration or roughly 500MB/s which is TERRIBLE in terms of performance. pcie4x4 hard drives should be in the 7gb/s range.
looks nice, however that is something I rather have standing up, and with the weird shape of the box, just sucks. So it looks more as a part for a DIY project, take the electronics out, 3d print a different case, put some serious heatsinks and fans.
this looks like it would be great for high speed video editing and fast data access stuff as long as the network is fully 10 gigabit or at lest 2.5 not so much for long term storage.
If this came with a Thunderbolt 3/4 interface, then I would be impressed. There's no way I'm going to be able to push multi-4k or 6k digital cinema streams through that for editing. For my needs, I'm still stuck with spinning disks.
this only seems like a small niche of uses. Unless someone has a ton of money to blow on at least 6 - 8 TB drives, it still feels like sure video editing off that or using it as a temp solution of work flow until it is archived off to a bigger nas.
The major part i think he missed is it is a NAS and redundancy is the name of the game then. Yeah if you go with JBOD you can get 96TB of storage but when you are going with that much storage having redundancy is probably good so cut 1/3 out with RAID 6. In that the ASUSTOR Flashstor 6 is better due to redundant network ports. Yes a little slower but for video editing and back ups the change from 2500Mbps to 10Gbps isn't that big mostly due to the CPU in the NAS is the bottleneck. It is also NOT Cloud storage it is local network storage. Why the air quotes when saying "Operating System"? It is the operating system for the NAS as it custom for the NAS like most other NAS companies it comes with a custom OS.
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Hi. No background whatsoever on this, but would the system be gradually upgradable storage wise? Like, can I buy just 2 2TB drives for now then add another 2 2TB later without having to redo the settings/setup??? And do the storage drives have to be the same sizes or not??? THANKS. I pay for GoogleDrive, OneDrive, and for Apple's iCloud so my monthly fees together over a few months would actually cover the cost for this system.
11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
What file system is this using? ZFS? BTRFS? EXT4? If it’s proprietary is useless for any commercial operation, and unwise for individuals because if your NAS goes down you have to go to the manufacturer to retrieve your data (often accompanied by high retrieval fees). Why this information is important is that different file systems have different degrees of data rot. So knowing how the system works helps guide the user on proper maintenance procedures to minimize loss.
If it was a DAS via TB4 then it would be ok but still way slower than the internal storage in a Mac. Since its only connectivity is 10gb, you don't get to take advantage of NVME speed.
you could do this .. OR you could get google fiber 8GB/s service, buy a much cheaper and more expandable surplus enterprise server with sata drives and ram cache running truenas. Then you can have NAS from anywhere for multiple people. Mine has no problem saturating 10gig. This would be much more impressive if it had a local thunderbolt/usb4 direct connection in addition to smb/10gig
Ultimate DNS cache server. If one PlayStation or Windows box downloads a software package, everything else on the network can call the same file and get it at LAN speeds.
Thank you for this video, gained some knowledge. OMG! In Bharat- This costs ₹96000, and way too expensive, unimaginably expensive. HDD is cost effective as it will cost ₹28000 to ₹33000 for 80TB. RAID with this is surely way faster for rebuilding but expensive. If HDD rebuilding takes 12hrs this will be reduced to 4hrs with SSD. If want to use RAID I would go for HDD as it is cost effective, but if I want to use NAS, then I would go for SSD.
The more we grow the Tech ecosystems it is equally essential we have the compatibility across the brands! Steer clear those don't as they'll slowly corner you to their own ecosystem and rip you off. Always ask for better compatibility!
- Windows Copy is slow, use maybe TeraCopy - That 10Gb LAN port is good, but this needs USB 40mbps or TB or PCI slot for them to use as attached storage to actually use better the speed potential off those SSDs. As someone said, being a very niche product, the price is way too much for what it is (motherboard with cheap Intel cpu and 6 or 12 m2 slots and some ports) Let's hope someone else comes up with more refined and cheaper version.
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
Thanks for the video! I'm considering building my next storage PC (movies, tv shows,etc.) I'm running low on space on my 160GB RAID 5 PC. I only need a little more space for the next 5 years or so as my data use as decreased dramatically over the past several years. Any thoughts on a RAID 6 SSD affordable solution? I definitely want at least 10gbit ethernet.
FYI forgot to mention that the MP44 SSD has VERY high TBW Spec As well!
TBW comparable to the more expensive Kingston KC3000 which you said was very good for video editing?
24TB= more than 6× 7.5TB? 😅
Maybe a little overlay edit in the intro of the vid... 😅
OH, even more than Kingston, a lot more :)
@@theTechNotice That’s good to know. I’m not sure if you’re aware but Sonnet Technologies manufacturers a really great Thunderbolt Dock that has two (2) NVME SSD slots with 40gbps bandwidth plus some more USB-C ports for Mac and Windows machines. It’s great and has the same speed as those single-drive enclosures you reviewed in your “Storage Guide for Mac” video which I absolutely loved!
Raid use space lot too I believe.
$800 for a file server is insane. Wait until there are competition on the market and this thing should not be more than $400.
yep, i should be around $500
obviously you've never used one 10gbe, and have no idea what you're talking about
@@ShortStoryInspiration Obviously you don't understand the concept of competition.
@@jakesmith527810gb ports aren’t cheap…
He is initially aiming this at apple users though, it isn't meant to be a smart purchase.
This feels kind of misleading. Yes you can get 96 TB of SSD storage in this NAS but the cost is going to be almost $11,000. so comparing it to Apple is not really in line with the title.
Unless he changed the title, then the title is fine. You get 4 times as much storage for $200 less + future expansion available.
Clickbait is how they get people to watch. Anyway, I'm not watching.
Comments saying you're not watching count as engagement too so no worries!
@@nikolarajkovic3558 you can't carry with you ... the power consumption is like 10x ... running it off the laptop will suck up all the juice in like 1hr LOL
@RunForPeace-hk1cu it’s been 3 months, so I don't remember fully, but isn't this a NAS? You don't carry a nas with you. And you don't attach it to a computer directly. You connect it to your network, and then you connect it to any devices you need. You can access the nas anywhere you have internet as long as you set up a vpn on your network and set up port forwarding.
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Thanks again!
Y'all should make a budget one that regular people can afford
What's the budget?
@@theTechNotice I can grab a CM3588 NAS kit for under $200 bucks and a 3d printed case for it is like $15. That has quad core, NPU, 16GB of RAM, 64GB EMMC, 4x PCIE 3.0x1, HDMI in and out, and a 2.5g NIC. If you can match or beat those specs by a bit, I'd be willing to go up to $300-350, considering the warranty plus fit and finish of an injection molded case.
Any idea when the new version will be available?
So, this is technically an ASUS shill channel right?
I’m buying this beast for my birthday! I’ve been looking for something just like this! Saved!
I'm gonna wait
I have to say this is the best instructional on setting up a NAS I have seen. Better than the branded NAS systems I even own. I would suggest if one could do a episode on all things on setting up, trouble shooting NAS systems. Really great stuff.
Don't forget that RAID is not a backup.
Indeed, yet many people still use parity instead of just striping + proper backup.
Its not but think about it that way 99% of peopl dont back up anything at all so even just a raid is better then nothing
Very little data is worth backing up for a residential user
@@chrism6880It’s kind of the other way around? Residential users are the only ones with their personal data at stake. Large Enterprises are just risking other people’s data, and their own revenue.
@@chrism6880 what a dumb comment
People with small businesses or family photos exist
I saw that a new version is coming to market soon with two 10g rj45. I am holding out for that
This guy ain't gonna stop dropping banger intros!
thats why i dont subscribe...
Paying $1000+ for 5TB is wild.
Titling a video thumbnail "96Tb (affordable)" and not building it is even wilder.....
LOL exactly what I was thinking. 96tb….. “Here is 6TB, well 5 cause raid 5. 😅 Thought I was about to see a contender for my r740 with 85tb ..
especially when you only needed one more TB.
I use MacBooks, exclusively. But, I don't think Apple got the memo: storage is a commodity, with pricing; ding-dongs.
Would NEVER pay for their storage.
Intro King💯🔥.... Really Good Offer.
Glad you like it
@@theTechNoticeKeep them coming 💯
oh wow now thats cool! Thanks for the videos! i enjoy watching them Keep up the amazing work!!
I would never use parities on nand. I use raid 0 and I do backups in SSD backup enclosures. Huge performance and saving resources. And it’s always important to consider the type of data you backup. For private usage or even for some business cases ssd enclosure is the way to go but in some business cases I go for tape enclosures or a combo splitting long and short term backups. Anyways great video.
At 22:46 , the internal SSD of a first gen MBA M1 has already 2.5 GByte/s. In that box you put in NVME SSD having 4 GByte/s or even more and slow it down with that bottle neck 10 Gbits network interface. That is NOT a replacement for the internal storage. ICY Box has inexpensive boxes having Thunderbolt4/USB4 interfaces, building external storage with them is a competing external storage extension. As slow backup devices, a RAID5 storage makes sense. Using RAID5, I recommend to set it up with at least one hot spare disk and not only by the mandatory parity disk. For that, you can use directly RAID6, makes administration and handling much easier 😅.
Anyone who wants quiet and large and fast storage knows that there’s very little out there that cover all three externally. This will do that nicely.
You should take a look at the CM3588 NAS Kit for something more budget friendly. You can get that for Less than $200, and slap it in a $20 3d printed case.
I am sure we are just waiting for the V2 of this unit. Looks great and all that but I will wait till we see the the V2 tests results
Thanks so much for the walk-thru. Very precis and exactly what I needed. This is something that I am going to migrate to in the near future.
Wow!!! Incredible. I appreciate the tech you open up for us. I was surprised the speed was a little lower than I thought it would be over a 10G LAN... but 500 to 700 MB/s is still useful, plus the point you made that it's a fast NAS with redundancy. You could have configured RAID 10, which delivers the write speed of RAID 0 but is backed up with RAID 1 mirroring. Of course, that's 50% of available storage because of the mirror backup redundancy. Love your channel, you just get down to the nuts and bolts of the tech without the fanfare. I think, if you try RAID 10, you might experience faster writes... perhaps even hitting 1 GB/s?
@@KozureOkami888 Well, yes, now that you mention it! Good point!
Very interesting. We still have an older custom-built RAID-6 server using hi-end spinning drives and 60 TB. It is reliable and only had 2 drive failures in 8 years. But it is a pain with sharing on the network. It uses one Mac as the gateway for any other users to connect. One attractive thing originally was connecting with Thunderbolt 2 for extra speed, but the optical cables proved to be very flaky and very sensitive to heat and if you looked at the cables wrong, it would disconnect. If that gateway Mac needs a reboot, everyone using the server needs to save and log off until that Mac is back up. It also needs special drivers and other issues that make it a pain. It does have 2-drive redundancy and are hot-swapable which is nice. Just have to use the exact same type of drive and if you use larger drives, I guess it's hard wired into not seeing the extra storage. How reliable, long-term, are current SSDs? Would this be a good option to replace my current mostly-custom server?
BTRFS would have probably been a better choice of file system. BTRFS is a modern copy-on-write file system that supports bit healing, snapshots, and other features.
Nice!
1. Is there any real advantage in upgrading the RAM if you stay with Asus OS?
2. Should I replace the M.2 fan with something quieter and/or more powerful?
3. Or are maybe good coolers for the sticks a better idea?
Excellent video as had my eye on one these for a while. Just waiting for 8tb drives to come down in price a bit more as need a lot of storage
Thank you my friend.
What keyboard are you using . I like the typing sound which one are they ?
Thank you for the review, well done. I was kinda expecting better performance and a lower price.
Great vid! Can this be connected directly to the computer instead of using the Ethernet and Wifi?
Fantastic walkthru. Thank you for doing this at the level you did and explaining the basics the way you did. Sub'd and Liked.
I am planning to buy this and thanks a lot for this video. I had already selected some random M.2 SSDs but fortunately for me I found out from the NAS site that they are incompatible so I had to replace with the compatible one. I have one question: Is it possible to use this NAS with only one SSD to start with? Ideally one 2GB SSD?
Nice to see the BtrFS option available there! Does it also support BtrFS compression (and other features) ?
Great vid.
One wonders how the value proposition stacks up if we factor in durability n reliability 🧐🧐
I have 3 85” tvs and none are LG. I know it’s a decent brand but after this ad showed me more about LG than I ever know. I will certainly look at LG for my next update. This is a good product video.
I wish they would a thunderbolt version of this! I would buy it in a heartbeat!
My xbox,ps, and laptop will want this
The issue with these systems is that you can never saturate the LAN port. Just one SSD does over 4.5GB in read which equals 45Gb. You can better opt with a solution with cheap standard 2.5" SSDs like a NAS or external enclosure. 4 SSDs in RAID-5 equal max 23TB in net storage.
The issue is, SATA SSDs provide lower random IO. It is true that the sequential performance of NVMe SSDs is limited by the architecture of the NAS, but the random performance of NVMe SSDs is not bottlenecked and much higher.
Very nice video as always! ❤ Not so easy to install on the software side, no thunderbolt or usb-c for my macbook😅
Looks like a good product. Thanks for the video. Can we configure it so that we can access this private cloud from the web? Like how we are using Dropbox?
Don’t need speed for backups, just massive space
Dude amazing video keep it up
This is an average machine that doesn't draw too many watts. The SFF is the main selling point but it runs incredibly hot up to 80C on the cpu if some mods are not made to add fans. Currently Running ZFS on this machine and only Read and write about 100Mb/s
Thanks for this informative video
I USE MP33 SSD 1TB (PCIE GEN-3)
AND IT'S PERFORMANCE IS NICE
Don't fall for it, unless you have a pretty fast network and you just want storage. The price is good, but the thermals, the lmited functionality, the slow CPU, the lack of proper software like the one you find in a Synology or Qnap, the lack of true hotswap etc. But if you just want shared storage it seems to be an interesting platform. You will get no benefit from the gen 4 ssd, so if you can get 3 generation it will be better (not only for price but heat).
Imagine paying this much for a portable drive with no thunderbolt.
Interesting, but definitely waiting to see the Gen 2 FS6812X before deciding...
lol I just saw you video and I already had this wishlisted for Christmas on amazon after doing research a couple of months ago, flash SSD storage is king compared to old mechanical SATA hard drives. Thank you for you review and insight, now for sure I am going to buy it. This will be my media server (I have not decided jellyfin or plex yet). I would be curious what software you would use for a media server, mabey a next video.
Wait for the Second Version End of the year
Whats that beautiful\strange keyboard on your desk?
Teamgroup MP44 4TB is my go to NVMe for all my setups
Nice analysis; the read speeds, I dare say, are at the limit of the 10GBe network. I wonder if there is a way to connect via a faster medium such as Thunderbolt or USB. Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question; I am not a pro at this :)
I agree…the lack of at least one of these two ports is amazing.
I want a system that can use multiple thunderbolt ports on the Mac’s and have transfer speed of about 28000MBps
Am i asking for too much
Thank you for this. Few questions. If we are using all 12 slots, we should do RAID 6 correct? Also can you use of the drives/slots to be the time machine backup location for my Mac Studio?
The 10G NIC means it is not much faster than a single SSD. If you just want "one very high capacity SSD" which you can share on the network, then this is fine. Assuming the Mac is running each SSD at full speed, it will be twice as fast, at least and I presume Mac's can still share their disks. You could plug in multiple SSD's as USB devices and share them. Just as fast for the network, much faster for the local device.
Is this a media player as well? Android based? Like a shield? Dont see why else they would of included fiber audio out
Who stores on SSD? Not me. Only HDD. 😊
ServeTheHome did a review and found that "on average, each drive here has roughly the bandwidth equivalent of a PCIe Gen2 x1 lane" due to the pcie mux switches employed in this configuration or roughly 500MB/s which is TERRIBLE in terms of performance. pcie4x4 hard drives should be in the 7gb/s range.
looks nice, however that is something I rather have standing up, and with the weird shape of the box, just sucks. So it looks more as a part for a DIY project, take the electronics out, 3d print a different case, put some serious heatsinks and fans.
I need some of that for all my digital library. But m2 are really expensive xD. Imagine having the money to fill that with 96 tb
this looks like it would be great for high speed video editing and fast data access stuff as long as the network is fully 10 gigabit or at lest 2.5
not so much for long term storage.
What keyboard are you using??
This might be a good investment now that flash is an appreciating asset.
it’s Mac not MAC btw, it’s not an acronym it’s short for Macintosh.
If this came with a Thunderbolt 3/4 interface, then I would be impressed. There's no way I'm going to be able to push multi-4k or 6k digital cinema streams through that for editing. For my needs, I'm still stuck with spinning disks.
pretty underwhelming. Can probably reach the same speeds with SATA SSD's and save a boatload over having to buy NVME.
Yeah without a faster interface like Thunderbolt, this is a dud. But with Thunderbolt this could be amazing.
Ordered.
What is the keyboard you are using in this video?
this only seems like a small niche of uses. Unless someone has a ton of money to blow on at least 6 - 8 TB drives, it still feels like sure video editing off that or using it as a temp solution of work flow until it is archived off to a bigger nas.
You can do mostly what this does with a conventional NAS with a couple of M.2 SSDs as cache and 10G ethernet port.
Can you do lower end cpu reviews like i3 and r3 ?
Is it good for video editing
The major part i think he missed is it is a NAS and redundancy is the name of the game then. Yeah if you go with JBOD you can get 96TB of storage but when you are going with that much storage having redundancy is probably good so cut 1/3 out with RAID 6. In that the ASUSTOR Flashstor 6 is better due to redundant network ports. Yes a little slower but for video editing and back ups the change from 2500Mbps to 10Gbps isn't that big mostly due to the CPU in the NAS is the bottleneck.
It is also NOT Cloud storage it is local network storage. Why the air quotes when saying "Operating System"? It is the operating system for the NAS as it custom for the NAS like most other NAS companies it comes with a custom OS.
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I think modern home/office routers should have at least one NVMe storage option.
Can this be used with Direct Storage.. I don't want a storage device that requires internet to use
Did you always have the terra?
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@@theTechNotice The silver Fractal Terra in the back, when did you get that? Was wondering if you made a video about it.
Hi, is this the flashtor gen 2? If not I would love a comparison with the previous gen, and ugreen alternative...
Gen1. Gen2 is not released yet. Will send one when we have it!
I plan to purchase that item.
I plan to appreciate you for your support!
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Hi. No background whatsoever on this, but would the system be gradually upgradable storage wise? Like, can I buy just 2 2TB drives for now then add another 2 2TB later without having to redo the settings/setup??? And do the storage drives have to be the same sizes or not??? THANKS. I pay for GoogleDrive, OneDrive, and for Apple's iCloud so my monthly fees together over a few months would actually cover the cost for this system.
Hi! Yes. The system is gradually upgradeable in exactly the way you described. Storage drives need to be the same size.
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What camera do you use for the video?
What's the keyboard that you're using in this video?
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11:00 I'll respectfully disagree on "Obtain IP Address Automatically", especially if you're planning to use your NAS as a media server. If the router ever decides to give it a different IP, you'll now have to reconfigure any device that needs to connect via IP with the new one. If you have a static one for the NAS, you know what the IP is at any given time.
What file system is this using? ZFS? BTRFS? EXT4? If it’s proprietary is useless for any commercial operation, and unwise for individuals because if your NAS goes down you have to go to the manufacturer to retrieve your data (often accompanied by high retrieval fees). Why this information is important is that different file systems have different degrees of data rot. So knowing how the system works helps guide the user on proper maintenance procedures to minimize loss.
ext4 and Btrfs
This stuff is so expensive that it's out of reach for the average person. That is, for 99.9% of the population. But I'm glad it exists... really...
Ssd drives have limited writes no? Wouldn’t it be better to stick with Sata hard drive based SAn?
At ~$850/NVMe, a 96TB setup is $10,000 plus the Asus enclosure. Going to have to pass until I get richer and stupider. Well, I'm halfway there!
Can you start with 2 drives, and add later more to same volume ?
If it was a DAS via TB4 then it would be ok but still way slower than the internal storage in a Mac. Since its only connectivity is 10gb, you don't get to take advantage of NVME speed.
you could do this .. OR you could get google fiber 8GB/s service, buy a much cheaper and more expandable surplus enterprise server with sata drives and ram cache running truenas. Then you can have NAS from anywhere for multiple people. Mine has no problem saturating 10gig.
This would be much more impressive if it had a local thunderbolt/usb4 direct connection in addition to smb/10gig
My dream is to be able to play on my different gaming computers directly from a NAS
Ultimate DNS cache server.
If one PlayStation or Windows box downloads a software package, everything else on the network can call the same file and get it at LAN speeds.
how about your keyboard? Where do I find it?
Thank you for this video, gained some knowledge.
OMG! In Bharat- This costs ₹96000, and way too expensive, unimaginably expensive. HDD is cost effective as it will cost ₹28000 to ₹33000 for 80TB.
RAID with this is surely way faster for rebuilding but expensive. If HDD rebuilding takes 12hrs this will be reduced to 4hrs with SSD.
If want to use RAID I would go for HDD as it is cost effective, but if I want to use NAS, then I would go for SSD.
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The more we grow the Tech ecosystems it is equally essential we have the compatibility across the brands! Steer clear those don't as they'll slowly corner you to their own ecosystem and rip you off. Always ask for better compatibility!
- Windows Copy is slow, use maybe TeraCopy
- That 10Gb LAN port is good, but this needs USB 40mbps or TB or PCI slot for them to use as attached storage to actually use better the speed potential off those SSDs.
As someone said, being a very niche product, the price is way too much for what it is (motherboard with cheap Intel cpu and 6 or 12 m2 slots and some ports)
Let's hope someone else comes up with more refined and cheaper version.
or film makes who want to do feature film in full raw 4k and especially 8k movies then this is plausible!
heatsinks added? when the platform cripples the potential performance to about 1000 mbits only? faster than sata but slower than cheapest nvme.... hopefully high capacity 16 TB m.2 will be affordable and out soon, the next gen of this device might be interesting if they solve the bottleneck
Add this to an old PC/Laptop/Raspberry Pi and run Owncloud (making sure that everything is backed up)
Thanks for the video! I'm considering building my next storage PC (movies, tv shows,etc.) I'm running low on space on my 160GB RAID 5 PC. I only need a little more space for the next 5 years or so as my data use as decreased dramatically over the past several years. Any thoughts on a RAID 6 SSD affordable solution? I definitely want at least 10gbit ethernet.
You just have to pay up there is no way around that if you want a 1 botton setup solution .
Why ssd? What you are describing would be perfect for Hdd, and way more affordable.
Is this designed to run 24/7?