RGB Ruined My Life: MiRage Mechanical Keyboard Mk2
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- With hotswap Cherry AND Choc AND RGB AND e-paper!
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The original MiRage modular mechanical keyboard had an incredible response - over 2000 people want to clack like Zack. I refocused on making the keyboard accessible to everyone, fix hardware mistakes, and make some improvements. Join my struggle to cram Cherry MX, Kailh Choc, RGB LED, epaper, and more into a single cutting-edge keyboard. It's got big problems, but opens up bigger possibilities. There will be a MiRage Mk3!
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I love the option of just having an open space for Eink, knobs, etc. A gridfinity-esc part of the keyboard where people mod it to fit who knows what peripherals; like (not good ideas->) A pcb solder heat plate, a peltier module drink holder, (better ideas->) A grid-eye sensor for gesture and light dimming control, a flight controller flash and setup plate with mini servos to calibrate it. The possibilities!
Have you thought about just straight up using an RJ45 jack? :D
I do think the possibility of a swappable module where the e-paper screen is would be a good idea. I don't want to give up those cyberpunk OLEDs as much as you, so even if I have to separate the buttons or give them up entirely, I'd like the chance to have to make such a module of my own
“Indie hardware development is an unrelenting bleak money pit” are the words that ring most true in my skull. Stay strong, and may your magic pixies never escape ✊🏻
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It is bleak, but also vivid with opportunity.
Hey Maks!
Yea but its soooooo cool.
make it so that each individual key is the keyboard, and each key is on its own using magnets to stick together to form any shaped keyboard you want. I WANT MORE OPTIONS!
gridfinity keyboard, but then mini gridfinity, like LEGO's are to DUPLOs
i could make that happen....
That's going to get expensive real quick, and they'd have to be really strong, but I'd love to see something like this.
I switched from saying "the most hackable keyboard" to "the most hacktical keyboard" because Adafruit released that numberpad where every row is a breakaway strip. There's a point of diminishing returns...
@@Noah-ek8hp aight show me😜
Listening to Zack feels like someone has taken my ADHD inner monologue and weaponized it.
I mean this as the highest compliment.
this. ☝️
boy, I really hope this project doesn't get cloned by some Chinese company before it's even finished. looks great though!
how dare you invoke the forces of irony like that
its already cloned, though those companies do not know or are not aware of the BAD PCB design, that is prone to failure under normal usage conditions. [AKA plugging in a Sata cable]
Oh it will, but I want a Zack board, so he'll still make plenty of money. :)
That would save me a lot of work
It most likely wouldn’t be nearly as good as Zacks finished keyboard
Looking forward to the Gridfinity mount that holds a full Mirage MK3 with all the additions. It’s the VoidStar Labs version of an MCU crossover event.
Gridfinnty based cyberdeck when?
Beware ordering the microcontrollers with lots of pins when building a custom keyboard.
You'll find yourself doing wacky crap like throwing in a trackpoint and an analog stick and 4 rotary encoders. Then you have to write the software to make 4 rotary encoders and an analog stick do something useful. Ew, desktop apps. Gross.
adding hardware then thinking about what to do with it, sounds like me xD Right know I'm building handwired ortholinear Preonic-like keeb with RP2040-Zero with KMK.
I'm looking at all the bits and bobs I have on my desk, various encoders, analog sticks, so on, and thinking all the wonderful human interface devices I could make from them that I 100% know I would never use
ZACHHH FRIEDMAN! You can run the IO Expanders off of 5V as far as I know! I2C is a pull-down communication protocol, so all it detects communication through lows, not highs so this difference in voltage between the expander and the microprocessor won't matter.
but double check you won't end up as a Fried-man, man.
Except that his last name is actually spelled "FrEEdman," so you know, he'd end up as a "Freed-man," which isn't exactly PC, ya know?
would love to see qmk support for this. (it supports rgb per key, without running the data line for rgb)
You could switch from sata to rj45. It has 8 instead of 7, but that's just expandability for the future.
They probably thought it was too thic to fit. But Id prefer the reduced costs of it tbh
@@slep1654 it would be taller than the sata, but no taller than most keycaps. So the overall form factor wouldn't take a hit.
You can put any amount of wires from 1 to 8 in an RJ45 connector. Regardless, the problem is there aren't a lot of pretty ethernet cables out there.
@@pastellexists on the other hand, they're pretty easy to DIY so it does open up the ability to sheath and crimp your own custom lengths
I was thinking the same thing. My keyboardio model 01 uses this, and I'm pretty sure the model 100 uses the same. And I don't know about you, but I have far more spare Ethernet cables kicking around than sata cables.
Amazing work! As a keybard enthusiast myself I will definitely try to buy one to costimuze monstrously.
However I would like to add that north facing LEDs/switches are generally not recomended because some very popular keycap profiles interfere with most chery style switches when northfacing.
I need to collect feedback on this. South-facing LEDs make shine-thru legends visibly dimmer, and printable shims can prevent Cherry cap collisions. The MiRage will likely be most users' first mech keebs, as well.
@@ZackFreedman it's only cherry profile keycaps and only some of them, tho. newer ones tend to have slightly different inner supports and work with north facing leds too
I don't take enough time to appreciate how much time, work, and money Zack puts into this videos, with all the humor sprinkled throughout.
And of course also much appreciation to the lovely Patreons and their glorious usernames.
Zack! - but your sponsor transition is no longer smooth like butter the moment you mention how smooth like butter it was!
Ok hear me out…
Gridfinity keyboard
If you make the center post hole a little bit larger and add a hole for the alignment pin, you could also support choc v2 switches. This will give folks the option to have a low profile switch with an MX keycap. The regular switch pins are in the same places as choc v1 switches, which means that they're compatible with the same hotswap sockets.
Ooh, I currently have a separate numpad on the left despite being right-handed.
So this keyboard would be great for me, if it releases.
👀 I took a shot every time he said MiRage and I'm dead now
The last keyboard I would need! Amazing hardware and hopefully powerful and accessible software to match!
I fucking love all the nerdiness and flowing dialogue in your videos, it’s just *chef’s kiss*
This rocks! Thanks for not giving up on the I-O after the first week!
I've had an idea bouncing around in my head for a while, if you like it, please run with it: each module (which like you said can work independently or together) can be connected to one another via magnets and spring loaded pins (aka pogo pins). Super fast and modular hot swap!
I might experiment with this in the next version. My gut check is that most people will want to "set it and forget it" instead of regularly switching between configurations.
@@ZackFreedman thanks for the reply! My original idea for wanting it is for a modular number pad which I can add or remove when I need, and to also be able to take it and use solo with my laptop when I'm away from my main PC.
Very nice work mate! I built the Sick-68 for the wife after seeing your video way back when and the Redox Handwire for myself.
On other projects I generally use the mini-e LED’s simply because I can solder them on the under side of the board and they protrude through an opening in the PCB which (as you stated) keeps them flat.
I think an optional third half could be really cool. It would be super useful for audio/video editing too. Keep the footprint small for the first two halves, move the cool stuff to the third one.
I did the same mistake with the internally connected ground in design, was great.
As someone that has been a tech for 20 years and LOVE your videos, I have no idea what you're talking about. At all.
I hope that this mighty modular beast will one day grace the desks of Britain! Finally a device worthy of my tea cup ridden realm of robotics!
The Baudrillard reference in the middle of a keyboard video made this explicitly for me
Due to capitalization, I read this as My Rage. I now see that was perfectly correct. Looking spiffy!
New drinking game: Take a shot whenever he says "Mirage". I bet half of you will be blackout drunk before the intro even finishes lmfao
wow that transition was way too smooth, didn't even see it coming!
Gotta say Zack, I really enjoy your channel, a large part of that is your freestylin' cybertalk! 🙂
Put the screens on the left! If they're on the right, they add distance from your mouse to your keyboard. Whereas if they're on the left, they're useful and out of the way.
Is there a possibility for a version with south-facing LEDs? I know it hurts RGB a bit, but north-facing switches interfere with cherry profile key caps, removing compatibility with a large portion of key cap sets.
Hey, if you want to connect the two halves of the keyboards together, use USB-C with alternative mode negotiation, and that'll make it possible to connect the two halves with usb cables, while talking between each other with whatever protocol you would like to use. As a bonus, you can then use the same usb-c port to connect directly to a PC.
Even if I am not particularly interested in the video topic, I always watch your videos for the puns, word play and overall fantastic scripts.
Ahhh, and now it's off the playlist and I'm guessing unlisted. Well, hi I suppose!
Edit: Oh! This isn't even on the Patreon, very neat. I get super secret early access by complete accident.
FYI, other connectors that also have multiple ground wires connected to each other are: usb 3.0 and usb-c, hdmi, displayport, and probably a bunch of other high speed serial interfaces.
I once got some cheap VGA cable for a project thinking "I need 9 cables, this one has 15, so there should be no problem, right?" WRONG!! Several pints were not connected, others were shortened together, which in the end gave me less lines than I needed. All this was discovered after hours of frustration. Later it turned out that fully wired VGA cables do in fact exist but are rare and expensive AF
I see you’ve taken the “melt your circuits” advice onboard
Thought I'd share a quick tip for those like me who don't have access to a 3D printer, You can use things like Cigar Flight Cases and make the nostalgic "Cigar Box Computer". I use 2 small flight cases(Mayitr New Waterproof Dust-proof Shockproof Travel 5 Cigars Caddy Case Box with Black Humidor 230*125*49mm) as clamshell holders for my Dual 7" HDMI Touch Panels and a larger one to hold the Rpi and associated tangle of wires fans Hdd's speakers batteries and power regulators. The ingredients sound simple but the results are professional looking. I don't even alter the Cigar boxes so they retain their waterproof capability and can be used for other purposes if need be.
As for the E-paper display, I would maybe try putting a touch panel there like the ones laptops use for their mice, would be interesting if you could maybe put a touch panel membrane over the e-paper and increase it's usefulness exponentially. Maybe even integrate the Mouse into the Keyboard laptop style, perhaps adding a nipple mouse as an option as well?
The removal of the display buttons is a mistake 😭😭😭 I can understand your e ink idea, but I want display buttons.
How about making them tactile by placing small vibration motors under the display so it’s simulate a click like the trackpad of MacBooks or newer iPhones do? Then you could mount them static
Hopefully it will become a module you can attach. That would be cool
Great video, I made a Sick68, naturally I am now addicted. Bring on MiRage!
I, personally, would love the idea of a small screen integrated into my keyboard. I'd personally use it to monitor my PC's vitals: temps, usage, fan speeds, etc.
Zack, I only was able to stand 47 seconds before *SMACHING THE LIKE 👍 BUTTON*. I liked so much your intro that, I don't know and don't care if the rest in trash, you deserved it for your outstanding intro ! Kudoz 🏆 !
And I have now watched the full vid. No ragrets. One of your best ! 😘
Make cutouts in the PCB for the LEDs and solder them onto the other side -- LEDs recessed into the holes. This way there's no interference with the the switches.
you could probably 3d print a hinge system to keep using OLED displays as buttons with less click to avoid putting too much pressure on them
I'd personally separate the buttons from the bezels entirely, maybe have two to the left and two to the right of each OLED.
Best sponsorship segment I've seen in a while! Keep it up!
I would love to get one of these, but I can't do ortholinear for the same reason I never tried to learn Colemak or Dvorak - most of my typing is done at hot desks I can't control the configuration of, so getting used to using a non standard format would make it harder for me to type most of the time
Great opening. Poetry doesn't begin to describe...
This seems like an amazing backbone for a media keyboard using the epaper as a touchpad (just using the rage half to control VLC for example). Wonder how hard it would be to add bluetooth and a battery.
Hahaha I lost it when I noticed you Googled "help I swallowed a tennis ball"
Previously the right half became the Rage Board, now you can line up 4 of the left half and build an MX cherry synthesizer called the Mi Mi Mi Mi!
hot take: the E-paper pad would be best used in place OF the full size num-pad with the option of acting AS the num-pad.
the arrow keys could be entirely replaced by a physical joystick/D-Pad, leaving only "insert, Delete, Home, and End" to be merged with the left-hand board.
the E-paper should have something extra rigid behind it like a small chunk of fiberglass, with a layer of foam between that and the PCB to boost height and add impact absorption against users fingers.
with something like that, this would become something i would 10000% buy.
NXP does make a chip that is the I2C equivalent of a network switch. I use this all the time when I need to control more than one device on the same I2C address. I put each one on essentially it’s own I2C bus. With this you can multiplex the bus almost an infinite number of ways. There is a bit of I2C over head for the micro because it has to tell the “switch” which port to push the following data out.
Wasn't expecting a Baudrillard joke. How do I like this video twice?!
Rather than 2 separate board designs, it would be awesome if the one PCB design had both sides of the board. Left side on the front and the right side on the back. Just flip the board and use the otherside. Most PCB manufacturers make you order 5 minimum that's 10 boards if you just want to build one.
Just have to avoid the extra mirrored hotswap holes.
Really good conceptual progress, I like the idea of just making the e-ink part effectively a breadboard either directly connected to the micros extra pins or left with footprints for 0R bridges and bodge wires selectively for maximum modularity - so many off the shelf dev boards that are good on breadboard pinspacing.
Okay, so the evil of the split keyboard is that sometimes people want the center keys on both sides of the split, so you can reach the y from your left hand or the six from your right... So with your design a 1-column keyboard strip could let you support that by adding one to each half...Just a thought.
Fun fact, MiRage is the name of an Italian Electronics Music group or sole member.
Make the display a module you can put at an angle like the rpi400 cyberdeck display from adafruit
I've always wanted a macro style mechanical keyboard. I like the straight key rows that macro keyboard use.
Zack, buddy this isn’t the first time I’ve heard you mention making an error when you made the footprint. If you need someone to double check your footprints I have a long win streak of error free footprints. I’m happy to double check them for you. 8 eyes are better than 4.
Anyone else notice that the rows of keys aren't offset like they are on a standard keyboard? Looks like you would have a hard time transitioning back and forth from a standard keyboard and this one. But I will remember this and quote you "But in practice the difference between theory and practice is greater in practice than in theory. "
Well two things
1. 100% yes
2. If the modular thingy where you can put knobs and stuff could be like sitting on the left (with the numpad) so that the mouse doesn't have to sit 1000km from the keyboard, that'd be great
My favorite part of this channel is how well he knows the audience and slams them at the same time.
For the MK3 maybe use a pico w, raspberry pi announced a pico with LAN
This project looks amazing.
The touchscreen is awesome! Like using it as password or macro manager, using it as a sound mixer or whatever is awesome!!!
There's connectors named "magnetic pogo pin connector" that are great if you can get a stable base to connect them it's basically the connector used in tablets to connect keyboards but diy
You may consider this "Hacktic" feedback. The splitable keyboard is still a good idea, thought I would have gone with USB-C rather than SATA cables. If you add a USB hub and simply map the keys to their appropriate counterpart it should work.
Looking forward to the 2x2 key mount component and keyboard gridfinity backplane so that I can easily swap my keys around. Add another gridfinity component that houses the e-ink display and I can lay out my keys in whatever insane order I desire!
I have not gotten into programming on your level but love your projects
So.. you just made a joycon keyboard. I love it!
OMG!!!! I finally found you back!!! I saw your MiRage video a while back.. a few months later, I've try 10 key less keyboards and I fell in love, but they are far less ergonomical than my good old ergonomic key board that is way to large.
So I wanted to try a split keyboard and I wasn't able to find the MiRage back! I lost hope and bought an commercially available one and I'm happy with the split... I just hate the layout of the keys and I miss my mecanical keys....
Funny enough last week youtube proposed me your DLP video, I liked it and subscribed to your crazyness.. Today I just wanted to watch your old content and what did I see the MiRage!!!!!! Now.. let's find how to make/buy one!
Thanks!
OK now that I've finished the video about the Mark II, I'm so stoked! I love the idea of making the keyboard infinity expandable and change the order of the boards. I want to split my key board so I can have the pads inline with my shoulders and that's why I was looking into a 10 key less design because I don't want the mouse to be pushed too far. The biggest problem I had with the design with the e-ink screen and the macro was the extra space used ~around~ the keybooard, now, if I can switch the left and right board, I can have the e-ink screen and macro keys in the center of my board, you know, where there's free space that I use to put my phone or my food plate because it's empty!
I can't wait to get my hand on one. In the mean time tho, I have projects to test with that e-ink touch screen! Thanks for the design files, not to build it in it's totally unusable state, but to make a prototype e-ink touch screen setup so I can write code for it and maybe, if that work, make that code public for everyone to use, but not before a working prototype.
Thanks alot for fuelling my "totally not caused by you" new passion about custom keyboard and my real need for a split keyboard.
if you go with the right side modules I really hope someone makes a tiny beatmania controller for it. 9 keys and an encoder so it's also pop'n compatible.
I want a track pad (with physical buttons) and a scroll wheel.
You know what invisible sea creatures park their cars in? A Mer-'rage
_~sHiMmEr TrAnSiTiOn AwAy~_
Your video about custom mechanical keebs sent me down a rabbit whole which I nor my wallet can ever forgive you.. that said I was hyped from v1 and I'm even more hyped from v2, can't wait to see v3.
6:15 you forgot the feature where a typo gives you a mild electrical shock
I chose the right time to start researching building my first keyboard
Zack, you always speak-a-my-language.
A joy to see. Love your face. Best of luck!
We need motorized faders that Support midi
very excited to build one whenever this project is done
idk why but I was pleasantly surprised to hear Baudrillard referenced
10:20 regularly-spaced hole grid for mounting screen/knob/joystick/slider PCBs on standoff pillars to provide custom functionality anywhere within the key grid at an adjustable height that matches the height of the keyswitches and keycaps you've installed.
your advertisment was the first I ever fully watched
I feel like there should be a Void Star X System76 collab a few years down the road for a splitable version of their Launch keyboard
Good luck Zack, I wish you a speedy recovery on having swallowed a tennis ball
just a note on SATA, it's only rated for only 50 insertions!
The only plausible explanation for your insane hackabilities is witchcraft. Super impressive.
Have you heard of the Dygma Raise keyboard? it's a split keyboard which uses usb-c to connect them but has a "hub" that as a brain for communication.
E-ink module for functional keys sound very interesting. But it's abhorrent to place it on the right side. One of my personal reasons to switching to the mechanical and later diy keyboards was 70% and less layouts. the 3u wide display on the right is a total no go.
For the V3 you should add some drainage holes. If you can print a clam shell that actually protects your keys major step forward
What about a magnetic pogo pin interface on the sides and some sort of lock to lock the “halves” together or for a more split look use a braided x-pin din type cable with adapters that mag to the mag pogo pin connectors.
12:40 - I knew some cables had internal connections for grounds / shields.
I did NOT know the 80-wire UDMA (IDE) cables had some pins connected inside the plugs until about six years after first using them. lol
It makes sense now, though, so the motherboard can detect a UDMA-capable cable, then each drive can be forced into Master or Slave mode, depending on which colour of plug is used.
13:24 - What about making the cutout in the main board fit larger, so the whole MCU/USB module fits flush "into" the main PCB?
I've seen some projects do that successfully, with the ESP8266 or ESP32 module.
It's somewhat impractical to not use a backplate with mechanical switches. It improves sound profile, rigidity, weight and pcb longevity without bloating height of a device. And it's possible to 3d print one.
Great video as always and the progress is great. Seeing the headaches you went through and the bodged wire is standard for the path you are taking. Think back to the old days and how many units came with wires added on! Still happens in a lot of China knockoffs too. Thankfully, most seemed to figure out the difference in power rails between countries, so stuff doesn't catch on fire as much.
The eink touch pad would be a game changer. I've integrated a pimoroni trackball to my custom keyboard running QMK and that's okay, not the best. Blackberry mouse resolution on a 4k monitor is a bit meh.
That I2C issue is an... interesting oversight.
I really like this project! I've been subscribed for a long time but haven't been watching as actively lately and this is super cool/keeps you in the back of mind to check in if the YT algorithm fails me
"It works just fine for me..." How do I give this a TRIPLE THUMBS UP?