At first, I thought “we all know how to fly right?” But the last 2 entire battlefield games that didn’t have choppers… this actually could be people’s first experience with them
@Samuel Navas because its beta, and the beta is literally there for people like you. Give them feedback and maybe they'll change it in the finished game. Also, its not BF4.
Yeah, I’m honestly not a fan of the new helicopter first person UI. It feels like a downgrade of how detailed and interactive the older UI for Helicopters used to be. In BF3/BF4, I really enjoyed the “I” shaped reticle that was used to aim rockets for the attack helicopter. The UI is definitely a lot less interactive in 2042.
@@JohnDoe69986 Wrong. 90% of the old BF3/BF4 team is gone (modders who made Desert Combat/Conflict and knew their shit). I play since 1942, played the mods (probably the best heli control ever) and got 3500h in BF3, mainly being a heli pilot. BF 2042 looks way too arcady to me. Just heard it doesn't even keep its yaw, it's leveling out itself, typically an arcade thing (hope I'm wrong).
The flight model is fine for a beta... but it's incredibly simplified. I much prefer BF4's helicopter model at the very least. I felt more in control, I think.
Nah the controls in 2042 is way better because of how simple it is, before in BF4 I never liked helicopters because of how hard it was to fly even after 2 weeks i was shit in the sky, but now in 2042 the controls seem so much easier to understand and now i can fly really well just in 1 day.
@@TheGuyThatEnjoysArguments I think the point is that the skill gap was bigger and thus more rewarding. It actually took more skill to be good in the air, whereas in this bf 2042 beta, basically anyone can be good after only flying for 15 minutes
@@IanLesiuk yeah but they wanted to change that for battlefield 2042 I believe, as the games have never been competitive and so made little sense to make a vehicle which only a small number of people could use well, especially since when they're used right they can be really powerful which would just add to the frustration of anyone that just played the game casually
The flying in this game is shit. its such a joke the way the chopper and planes move. This coming from some one who flew all day long in every other BF game. the controls are so messed up. the physics are like ridiculous. I hope its just beta issues. :(
@@FalcoINC for me even if it's shit there is no game like it that can replace the hole in my heart. But dice will tune the vehicles in some shape or form.
I don't get why are people keeping to hate something that's not even a flaw. I don't care what's problematic from the game. But i know what's with the community: they can never accept changes. Every changes no matter minor or major is a big problem to their eyes. And that's STUPID
No you’re right I have hundreds of hours on bf4 basically just flying hellos and this game feels like a completely babied down version of that like an extremely assisted version
It’d be nice if the options menu gave you a schematic of the controller as you changed settings so you know what that setting does in terms of buttons….. lol
At the moment it doesn't even matter, after testing I've discovered all 3 stick settings are identical... Must be bugged because Collective, Roll, Pitch, and yaw are exactly the same.. And the default is messed up I literally cannot fly atm even though I racked up 3000 kills on BF3
There's 3 settings under heli sticks but as far as I can tell they change nothing. I've spent hundreds of hours in BF3 and BF4 in choppers but 2042 I can't even fly in a straight line
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z 3500h in BF3 here :) Desert Combat had the best (but hardest) heli controls, BF2 were good, BF3 are awesome, BF4 is "okay" ...now the old team and DC modders are mainly gone at DICE ...and all they care for is money, eh, I mean accessibility, so every 10y can have his 30 minutes of "fun" in the heli blowing shit up - yay. I'm not optimistic. Mastering the heli in BF3 is art. When you "feel" when the missile is gonna hit you and if it's an AA or Igla lock ...the "connection" between pilot and gunner after many hours flying together - without voice chat - and you know exactly of each other what they're thinking, looking at, doing in a second etc. - I very very much doubt we'll ever get that again in a BF.
I am beyond frustrated that I can't use the triggers to control throttle like bf4 and br3. The use of both sticks for all control of the helicopter is just stupid. If they don't have a scheme for this in the main game, I think it's a deal breaker for me. Helicopter flying is a must for me.
Throttle with the triggers is a must. In BF4 I could circle the tip of a capture flag endlessly with the front of the heli almost touching the top of the flag pole. Pissed it’s not in the beta!
Ty for this tutorial. I've never played any of the BF franchise nor ever played air vehicles. And I feel so much more confident flying. I wasn't able to stay for 10 seconds in air before haha. But all of these tricks helps me understand how the helicopter works. Thanks so much again.
Its horrible, I used the triggers to go up/down and I can barely fly in this one. it feels like they thought, lets make flying really counterintuitive and clunky because it was fine before.
Lol, I crashed my first helicopter and someone on the other team saw it and teabagged me. Just like the good old days, trying to learn how to fly a helicopter in battlefield 3
I've always been more of a A/D roll, Mouse X yaw and Mouse Y pitch sorta person so when my keybinds were bugged in the beta I found it really weird to fly the helicopters
I recommend using left shift for going down with the chopper as it allows you to press up and down at the same time. Whilst most of them not knowing that you can benefit from that, at least in bf3 and bf4
Really? In the beta they completely neglected the settings tab. You cannot tell what does what unless you already know what they do and it doesn't even seem like every setting Is there.
@@truth.honesty The whole thing was a mess. I especially loved the "custom" option, with no ability to set "custom". Also it turned out that the alternate chopper button controls were the ones under "fixed wing"... go figure.
I just want it to tell me the direction I’m being locked on from before I get hit. The last battlefield with helicopters had a little arrow so you knew where to go or what to duck behind to avoid being hit. So in this game you have to be hit, then see what part of your helicopter was damaged?
because vehicles need to be able to be destroyed by ground troops. Do you not understand the very delicate balance between vehicles and ground warfare in a video game to make it fun for everyone?
@@MadRabbit0wnzu ground troops with lock on rocket launchers are fine. They had them in battlefield 4 and could take out choppers just like the AA tank. All I’m saying is in Battlefield 4 it would show you which direction you were being locked on from, to give the PILOT a chance to evade. With no indicator telling the direction there is no balance. If you are in the air you are getting locked onto by troops, other choppers, AA tanks, and jets. Where is your balance there? At least let the pilot know the missile lock on is coming from behind so we can either try to put some distance between us and them, or fly around a building to dodge. If “you” put any time into flying a helicopter you would realize it’s something important that should of been carried over from the previous game. Apparently more people agree with me than you, not saying that in a “haha” way but in a “this matters” way. Especially since 2042 only has the one map available right now, there is nothing you can do if you are being locked onto except flares which have a cooldown. If anything the choppers need a buff on damage. If I’m in the Apache helicopter it takes over 20 missiles to destroy a tank. That means I have to hit it with every missile, then turn around and do it again, without the entire enemy team who have the easy capability of shooting me down noticing me. It also takes this many missiles to destroy the anti-air tank. Which is impossible unless you have a gunner, because it can lock onto you over and over and shoot bullets at you while you have to hit it with over 20 missiles. The attack chopper should be able to destroy all vehicles if you have the element of surprise, but instead it’s a slaughter if you are spotted by the AA tank.
The fact that there is no class based system and add the fact of 64 other enemies compared to the older 32 system. Most infantry is running around with an AA, then the AA tank, and then the jet, and don't forget about the other attack choppers. Then your cool down timer for the flares when you have 10 people locking on 1 after the other..... this seems to happen in about 75% of the matches I have been in. Maybe with the full release more people will have other gadgets besides mostly AA missiles.
If you never flied before, practice in the conquest solo/co up mode. While testing you will also unlock all the upgrades you will need to survive longer.
Yes. Right until the bot one shot you with recoiless m5 like an aimbot. 🤣 I got so frustrated with this. Even on the easiest difficulty, AI are very OP in vehicles especially in the Wild Cat. They seems never miss.
I don't know if these are the actual controls on console but for controller I would suggest this as a translation. Left Stick left and right rolls the helicopter, right stick left and right controls turning. Left stick up and down controls the orientation of the nose, while right stick up and down controls the elevation up and down. Hopefully this works for some people.
I tested in BF2042 and thought I had lost it completely, ran a round in BF 4 and there it worked perfectly. May review the keyboard settings because as it is now I get no feeling on the flight
@@baconatoromg6062 Yeah. If you understood how helicopters fly in real life, (Not saying you know nothing about helicopters) you'd see how realistic they are in both BF3 and 4. Its awesome
It became so easy to control heli these times. You can pitch down without pressing W and heli will not move forward. In BF3 it was way more challenging and skillfull.
I think it's harder for people to fly in BF2042 when they came from other games with much better flight models. Being entirely unable to proper use my flightstick is definitely not helping me any.
@@iilhares Yeah they’ll probably add that feature but flying just felt boring. BFV & BF4 aren’t flight sims by any means, but I at least felt that some physics were involved and that made it fun. Flying helicopters in 2042 was like flying hot air balloons and planes were rendered unusable for me due to paired controls with the heli and lack of flight stick support.
Do you really want someone that has been only using helicopters for over a decade to get kills on battlefield 2042 that easily? Your opinion would destroy the game for anyone thats trying to switch from other games, meaning your precious battlefield will fail in the end from your perspective. Try growing up and using guns, you might just have some real fun playing this beta
Thats gota be the most wack logic I have heard. "Do you really want fans of this franchise, who have supported it for "a decade" to be able to port their skills to the next game? -- nO bEcAuSE TheY WoUlD be TO gOoD at ThE GamE". I dont even play BF and trying to fly those heli's is super unfun.
Then new players might have to spend more time to learn how to fly compare to veteran like you. Coming from BF4, not everyone can fly like you do. I like BF2042 make it easier to fly versus spending 100 hours to get used to it.
@@zhen1763 How is it making it easier? You mean making it harder for everyone to hit anything? BF3 and BF4 had consistent mechanic. Now it is a game for 6 year olds. Maybe with controller it is easier, but with Keyboard and mouse it is disaster.
@@MadRabbit0wnzu Dumb logic. I'm a BF3 chopper vet and that has nothing to do with it. It has to do with realism, fun, consistency and balance. BF3 choppers were OP for pilots like me who regularly racked up 50+ kill streaks. BF4 put a stop to that by balancing everything correctly. BF2042 physics and controls are just wack, like Warzone choppers, no one wants that apart from 10 year olds
Circle strafing isnt really possible for sustained circles in BF due to the lack of momentum and drift when youre flying level. With the contant nose down, youre going to eventuallypitch up or risk getting too close and/or overshooting your intended flight path.
I thought that at first but I then increased my circular strafe distance from the target which helps to not overshoot, and the closer you you want to get to that target you use more roll angle for that tighter turn & circle. Granted there are times when you're having to pitch around adjusting that circular strafe (and thus you're not centred on your target whilst that's happening) so use that time to reload rockets whilst always keeping a few in reserve when you really have no choice but to attack (couple more hits for the kill). The most common times it goes awry is when you're fixated on the target instead of concentrating on continuing your perfect circular strafe which ultimately makes you have to compensate losing precious reticule acquisition.
What did you reassign E and Q to in the key binding settings? Just tried out this combo and it's great. Thanks so much for your video. Made a massive difference to my outcome.
Maybe a nice add for your great video : Tip 1 : Add/customise ping/common rose button on your d-pad➡️( the same as your standard repair button,(activate equipment slot 2). (menu-options-contoller-controller schemes-edit controller mappings-pilot-ping commonrose[HOLD] So that you repair button has 2 functions at the same time,ping and repair.( on pc you can add it on any button you feel fine with)This way you can ping the distance for the sweatspot for the miniguns.(The sweatspot is about 50m) This is also very helpfull for your jets to ping enemy vehicles for your second attack run with the air to ground missiles for example. And very helpfull for the hind,condor and attack chopper so your teammates in the transport gunner seats know where the pilots target is and help you to destroy the enemy threat(choppers jets vehicles) etc. Tip 2 : Make sure the helicopter control assist is set off.(Menu-options-controller-vehicles) Ill make a video to explain,cheers thanks for your video
I haven't played a bf game since bf3 and I started flying that chopper like i never stopped playing in a couple of hours. The scout heli is my favorite.
If somebody struggle with default control settings of heli in bf. Try to switch from left-right on mouse to left-right on keyboard. E.g. Roll Left - A-key, Roll Right D-key and Yaw Left Mouse-Left, Yaw-Right Mouse-Right. That's work perfectly for me even on jets.)))
I say don’t fix what isn’t broken. I’m not sure why the BF4 experience wasn’t simply imported. Momentum and low speed maneuverability specially makes a lot of the fun, high precision close quarter flying possible in BF4 no longer be possible. The spin up delay on the little birds miniguns also suggests this to me. Quick hit and dip really doesn’t feel possible any more. Both helicopters seem to have better weapons and are much faster overall. Damage feedback, as in all vehicles is terrible. I have mixed feelings. Looking forward to more maps with better physical cover to play around in the helis.
Do you think that the flying is way more sluggish than in BF4? I certainly felt that way. In BF4 I got use to pumping almost constantly up and down small movements to keep the accuracy but that now wasn't possible as changing direction from up to down takes almost a second. and then strafing felt like it now has way more momentum to it and therefore is way less accurate. Has anyone else felt that way?
Definitely, they also changed the fire rate for the little bird machine guns. Something's fucky with the aiming being locked to accelerating and decelerating too. Wish they kept the bf4 controls.
@@AnonymusHippopotamus yeah they are terrible. I was so used to the BF4 miniguns that were instantanious. These new ones takes like allmost a second to wind up. That truly fuck with the aim as I previously allready would have killed them in that time.
@@gamofin3447 it's a bit hard to put into words what's so weird about them, but anyone who spent significant time flying in bf4 will notice it right away. Hopefully enough people say something to the devs so they can adjust that before full launch.
I think flying in this game is more difficult to do than any other game I've played. Which I'm happy for that, they made it more skill based rather than simplified.
xD, I played it and it's just like a little feather on the sky, bruh, play arma 3, or any simulator of war and you'll see what's really a helicopter. Btw I hate the fact this game doesn't have a joystick support, there's no fun in flying without a joystick.
As someone whos vaguely flew in bf4 despite having abt 1500hrs, i really enjoy the bf 2042 flying experience, its rewarding for new pilots and easy to learn.
it sucks that the key binding in the beta is broken. In battlefield 4 I switched my roll and yaw controls so that I controlled yaw with the mouse and roll with the keyboard, in the beta its bugged so when you do this either you cant yaw left or cant yaw right. I'm back to square 1 in the beta learning to aim with the default flight controls. Good thing the new scout heli has free-kills dumb fire rockets, don't even need to be accurate lol.
Kiiwiin lol Gta helicopter controls make is hard to strafe because the helicopter keeps trying to pull up when you pull the nose down. It’s like a swing of death,
Yaw left does not work if you want to yaw with mouse, and this is triggering me, they have to fix it ASAP, i saw that i am not the only one with this problem.
Flying heli in BF4 feel more precise but also more free and agile. BF6 Beta felt like a free to play combination of Cod and BF for me. I will continue playing BF4, my favourite one.
I just checked your Battlefield 3 tutorial and had to double check whether it is the same person because you sounded differently 10 years ago! lol Thanks anyways, nice tutorial!
To anyone whos serious about aircraft gameplay I highly suggest to buy a joystick or use a controller. M&K is inferior (compared to sticks) when it comes to air vehicles imo.
Yeah I had the same problem. I feel like it would be so much more intuitive to just do all my aiming with the mouse. I keep trying to and forgetting that mouse is roll, and then I about flip myself over lol.
I have soooo many problems with planes and helicopters in Battlefield.. I had always a natural talent in flying in GTA 5. I didnt have to practice and still felt like a pro, seeing others fail to control their planes/helicopters. But surprisingly thats not the case in Battlefield for me. I always crash. I just can't deal with my plane/helicopter tilting/rotating when I use the mouse to aim on a target :(
This video is magnificent. I've always fared much better in armour than in the sky in BF games and I'm known in my squad for being the "Plx get me out of the pilot seat ASAP" chap 😅 I've watched a few vids and this is by far the most concise and direct explanation of flight mechanics, especially for a fellow old skoolin' inverted Y-axis person. Thank you. The only constructive criticism that I can give is that this vid would also benefit from a quick rundown of the keybindings and settings at the beginning, inc stuff like increasing 3rd person FOV and sensitivity sliders which would make this proper comprehensive...but then I don't know if you've covered this in another video lol Thank you for this, Imma gonna see what my M(inutes) to D ratio is like after flying in solo! 😁
I'm so confused I was a master of the little bird in BF3, >3000k kills and multiple 50+ kill streaks 2042? I still cant figure out how to spawn in a heli... I've even Googled it... Still can't figure it out 😂
@@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319 Thank you, I finally did it, only to find there's no Veteran controls so it's completely unplayable for me. Worse still the physics are now more arcadey and closer to Warzone than BF3..... RIP Battlefield
Hey y'all... there is only keyboard as well (which I use in all BF).. using wasd and up/down/left/right arrows on the right... would love to hear advantages and disadvantages by using this technique vs mouse and keyboard... thank you in advance and keep the great work!
Which button is used to activate free look around in the helicopter ? Through the gun sights? I had free movement with the gun sight. How do you turn it on? I can't find it? Where does the helicopter's free-range weapon sight turn on? Where is menu-option please ? ughh
so if you're doing Q and E for barrel role, what are you using to enter and exit the vehicle? I can just foresee the game throwing me out of the chopper with E still bound to entering a vehicle....
first time in BF with KB/M...and holy crap i suck in choppers. I don't know if i have a settings issue or what, but as soon as the plane starts going towards the ground, nothing i do with the KB or mouse saves it...it just goes right into the ground
How do you call in the helicopter? I know the field vehicle is ground vehicles but I don’t know how to call in air vehicles. Is it on the deployment screen?
I've played every game since BF3 and I never got into using any vehicles, tanks being an exception. I maybe have 5 kills in total with airplanes/helicopters.
What annoys me is that I have no indication where the lock on is coming from. The damage area on the heli model on the hud sort of helps but it’s not entirely clear. I really like that BF4 had this and I wish they’d bring it back and hope they do. It’s made even more annoying by the fact that wildcats blend in pretty well to the ground, making my hatred for them even more intense
Nice, I suck at flying in BF4, this guide helps. Looks like BF2042 make flying easier for keyboard and mouse, I know some people hate it because the controls is crap. I wonder did they change the learning curve for jets or attacker aircraft as well.
I like to get higher elevation than the enemy chopper in a helicopter fight. In the little bird, you can simply barrel roll as the missile is on its way and it'll miss you without needing flares
I never used knd piloting before and kept crashing for quiet a few games. I was starting to wonder if I should get a controller for my pc? Now I can get 30+ kills doe after a lot of grinding, but wondering if anyone has a "qualified" opinion on pros and cons of piloting with mnk vs controller? Are you missing maneuverability with mnk since you miss all the the angles beween wasd on knd compared to 360 degree movement on a stick?
they should have added seperate key bindings for the helo so you can get comfy with both the jet and the helo. now i've got controls for both while the workings of them are totaly different
what did they change compared to bf3 and bf4? because i cant fly for shit in bf2042 and i was pretty good in bf3 and bf4. did they invert something? something just doesnt feel right but i cant figure out what
Bro. I have been raging alllllll day about this. THIS IS THE ONEEEE FUCKING thing I have been dealing with. Something so fucking small. I tried all the settings. Flying with the sticks is for retards. Bf3 and 4 used the triggers for throttle. I can't fly this dogshit.
@@MrDionstarrr I was hoping I was missing something but looks like setting is missing in general. It was called "Veteran" setting before. This is crap I say
@@cyber_sek I really hope they correct this. It's like learning how to walk again for me. It's so non intuitive to use both sticks. It's like driving with a foot on the brake and a foot on the gas.
@@cyber_sek yeah I have managed to not crash anymore. But my immaculate maneuvering and ability to engage ground targets effectively is pretty much gone
The fact that the first ever video I've seen from you is a chopper guide on BF3 and now this in 2042. Damn time flies haha...
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At first, I thought “we all know how to fly right?” But the last 2 entire battlefield games that didn’t have choppers… this actually could be people’s first experience with them
bf 2042 is the first battlefield i've ever played but this vid def helped lol
It is
And the flight controls are different, if not then the Helis feel different
It’s my first time (call of duty player here) I’ve not played any battlefields and die every time I get in an aircraft on battlefield lol
The flying mechanics are also significantly different from battlefield 4. Definitely not easy like bf4 imo.
I hate that attack chopper pilots do not have a directional indicator where the gunner is looking!
@Samuel Navas because its beta, and the beta is literally there for people like you. Give them feedback and maybe they'll change it in the finished game. Also, its not BF4.
Yeah, I’m honestly not a fan of the new helicopter first person UI. It feels like a downgrade of how detailed and interactive the older UI for Helicopters used to be. In BF3/BF4, I really enjoyed the “I” shaped reticle that was used to aim rockets for the attack helicopter. The UI is definitely a lot less interactive in 2042.
@@captainvaughn5692 idk dude they should just know half of this shit. We can’t hold their fucking hands, shit they’re the ones who made the old ones.
@@JohnDoe69986 Wrong. 90% of the old BF3/BF4 team is gone (modders who made Desert Combat/Conflict and knew their shit). I play since 1942, played the mods (probably the best heli control ever) and got 3500h in BF3, mainly being a heli pilot. BF 2042 looks way too arcady to me. Just heard it doesn't even keep its yaw, it's leveling out itself, typically an arcade thing (hope I'm wrong).
Same thing with the tanks :(
The flight model is fine for a beta... but it's incredibly simplified. I much prefer BF4's helicopter model at the very least. I felt more in control, I think.
Nah the controls in 2042 is way better because of how simple it is, before in BF4 I never liked helicopters because of how hard it was to fly even after 2 weeks i was shit in the sky, but now in 2042 the controls seem so much easier to understand and now i can fly really well just in 1 day.
You can disable that
@@TheGuyThatEnjoysArguments I think the point is that the skill gap was bigger and thus more rewarding. It actually took more skill to be good in the air, whereas in this bf 2042 beta, basically anyone can be good after only flying for 15 minutes
Man I can’t fly for shit, like 7 diff buttons lol
@@IanLesiuk yeah but they wanted to change that for battlefield 2042 I believe, as the games have never been competitive and so made little sense to make a vehicle which only a small number of people could use well, especially since when they're used right they can be really powerful which would just add to the frustration of anyone that just played the game casually
Helicopter feel floaty, meaning you do crazy maneuvers with out Reprocussion unlike bf4 where you keep alot of your momentum.
The flying in this game is shit. its such a joke the way the chopper and planes move. This coming from some one who flew all day long in every other BF game. the controls are so messed up. the physics are like ridiculous. I hope its just beta issues. :(
@@FalcoINC "just beta issues" naa that's baked physics, that's how the game will play.
@@visiblehiggs130 Sorry to hear if it is. I probably wont buy the game if thats the way it stays. Too bad. I was ready for a new BF
@@FalcoINC for me even if it's shit there is no game like it that can replace the hole in my heart. But dice will tune the vehicles in some shape or form.
I don't get why are people keeping to hate something that's not even a flaw. I don't care what's problematic from the game. But i know what's with the community: they can never accept changes. Every changes no matter minor or major is a big problem to their eyes. And that's STUPID
I’ve flown helicopters in a lot of different games and this has to be one of the least intuitive but maybe it’s just me
No you’re right I have hundreds of hours on bf4 basically just flying hellos and this game feels like a completely babied down version of that like an extremely assisted version
@@marioroman7188 i feel like they should have 2 modes 1 for gods at flying which you can do super fancy stuff with and a basic one like this
@@marioroman7188 it feels a lot more cod like man I hate to say it but if war zone had a AH-64 this would be how it performs
@@marioroman7188 bro bf4 helicopter mechanics were literally perfect.
@@SuperWubDub that’s actually what I was going to say lol I played warzone like twice I used a helli and it felt like this.
It’d be nice if the options menu gave you a schematic of the controller as you changed settings so you know what that setting does in terms of buttons….. lol
THIS. Was literally just talking about this tonight, Id be more than happy to change button layouts and play around…. If I knew what they were
At the moment it doesn't even matter, after testing I've discovered all 3 stick settings are identical... Must be bugged because Collective, Roll, Pitch, and yaw are exactly the same.. And the default is messed up I literally cannot fly atm even though I racked up 3000 kills on BF3
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z Agree, utter garbage on heli controls
the controls for helis are so bad in this game. they make no sense.
I agree, they need to bring back the classic controls.
There's 3 settings under heli sticks but as far as I can tell they change nothing. I've spent hundreds of hours in BF3 and BF4 in choppers but 2042 I can't even fly in a straight line
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z I think it’s bugged. There’s no difference between legacy and default from what I can tell right now
@@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z 3500h in BF3 here :) Desert Combat had the best (but hardest) heli controls, BF2 were good, BF3 are awesome, BF4 is "okay" ...now the old team and DC modders are mainly gone at DICE ...and all they care for is money, eh, I mean accessibility, so every 10y can have his 30 minutes of "fun" in the heli blowing shit up - yay. I'm not optimistic. Mastering the heli in BF3 is art. When you "feel" when the missile is gonna hit you and if it's an AA or Igla lock ...the "connection" between pilot and gunner after many hours flying together - without voice chat - and you know exactly of each other what they're thinking, looking at, doing in a second etc. - I very very much doubt we'll ever get that again in a BF.
mechanics is shit for helis and jets
I am beyond frustrated that I can't use the triggers to control throttle like bf4 and br3. The use of both sticks for all control of the helicopter is just stupid. If they don't have a scheme for this in the main game, I think it's a deal breaker for me. Helicopter flying is a must for me.
THIS 100 TIMES OVER
Bruh. Select vehicle buttons as "alternate"
@@MKMR sticks are still totally screwed
Throttle with the triggers is a must. In BF4 I could circle the tip of a capture flag endlessly with the front of the heli almost touching the top of the flag pole. Pissed it’s not in the beta!
I need the triggers to be ascend and descend. These controls are dogshit and it pisses me off that the geniuses at DICE change them every time!
Ty for this tutorial. I've never played any of the BF franchise nor ever played air vehicles. And I feel so much more confident flying. I wasn't able to stay for 10 seconds in air before haha. But all of these tricks helps me understand how the helicopter works. Thanks so much again.
The flying feels so weird it’s like battlefield 4 with extreme assist
I want bf4 controls back.
hopefully its just a beta thing it feels way to arcadey at present
@@marlinanenomeposeidonthdar4677 feels almost like the flying in games like far cry
Hm I find flying way better in BF2042 than BF4
The guy that likes arguments Judging by your name I think you aren’t actually serious about that.
Can’t wait to start flying
Takes some getting used to - it's like a mix of BF4 and GTAV flying?
It works, loving it
Its horrible, I used the triggers to go up/down and I can barely fly in this one. it feels like they thought, lets make flying really counterintuitive and clunky because it was fine before.
@@shaneo6383 ya it was the best in bf4
Lol, I crashed my first helicopter and someone on the other team saw it and teabagged me. Just like the good old days, trying to learn how to fly a helicopter in battlefield 3
Lol, ive crashed atleast over 20 times learning to fly in 2042
The AI will also Teabag you
Probably me lol I always tea bag enemy’s lol 😂
I've always been more of a A/D roll, Mouse X yaw and Mouse Y pitch sorta person so when my keybinds were bugged in the beta I found it really weird to fly the helicopters
I’m starting to get into air vehicles more after fighting on the ground (or on buildings) so this is a good starting point for me
I recommend using left shift for going down with the chopper as it allows you to press up and down at the same time. Whilst most of them not knowing that you can benefit from that, at least in bf3 and bf4
On console, changing your vehicle buttons to "Alternate" is much easier and is the classic vehicle controls from previous games.
Not the same, you can't invert the lift, which completely f's up the flying for veterans. You also can't assign the triggers to lift and drop.
@@id3admani981 Alternate makes the triggers do this instead of the stick.
Really? In the beta they completely neglected the settings tab. You cannot tell what does what unless you already know what they do and it doesn't even seem like every setting Is there.
@@truth.honesty The whole thing was a mess. I especially loved the "custom" option, with no ability to set "custom". Also it turned out that the alternate chopper button controls were the ones under "fixed wing"... go figure.
I like small tutorial channels that get right into the topic and only passively hint at subscribing instead of begging.
I just want it to tell me the direction I’m being locked on from before I get hit. The last battlefield with helicopters had a little arrow so you knew where to go or what to duck behind to avoid being hit. So in this game you have to be hit, then see what part of your helicopter was damaged?
because vehicles need to be able to be destroyed by ground troops. Do you not understand the very delicate balance between vehicles and ground warfare in a video game to make it fun for everyone?
@@MadRabbit0wnzu ground troops with lock on rocket launchers are fine. They had them in battlefield 4 and could take out choppers just like the AA tank. All I’m saying is in Battlefield 4 it would show you which direction you were being locked on from, to give the PILOT a chance to evade. With no indicator telling the direction there is no balance. If you are in the air you are getting locked onto by troops, other choppers, AA tanks, and jets. Where is your balance there? At least let the pilot know the missile lock on is coming from behind so we can either try to put some distance between us and them, or fly around a building to dodge. If “you” put any time into flying a helicopter you would realize it’s something important that should of been carried over from the previous game. Apparently more people agree with me than you, not saying that in a “haha” way but in a “this matters” way. Especially since 2042 only has the one map available right now, there is nothing you can do if you are being locked onto except flares which have a cooldown. If anything the choppers need a buff on damage. If I’m in the Apache helicopter it takes over 20 missiles to destroy a tank. That means I have to hit it with every missile, then turn around and do it again, without the entire enemy team who have the easy capability of shooting me down noticing me. It also takes this many missiles to destroy the anti-air tank. Which is impossible unless you have a gunner, because it can lock onto you over and over and shoot bullets at you while you have to hit it with over 20 missiles. The attack chopper should be able to destroy all vehicles if you have the element of surprise, but instead it’s a slaughter if you are spotted by the AA tank.
@@IrishMonkeyIrishmonkey an experienced pilot will always be able to guess the direction and I dont see a problem here
The fact that there is no class based system and add the fact of 64 other enemies compared to the older 32 system. Most infantry is running around with an AA, then the AA tank, and then the jet, and don't forget about the other attack choppers. Then your cool down timer for the flares when you have 10 people locking on 1 after the other..... this seems to happen in about 75% of the matches I have been in. Maybe with the full release more people will have other gadgets besides mostly AA missiles.
@@madagascar9407 lmao what kind of bs is that :D how should you be able to tell are you a wizard?
If you never flied before, practice in the conquest solo/co up mode. While testing you will also unlock all the upgrades you will need to survive longer.
Yes. Right until the bot one shot you with recoiless m5 like an aimbot. 🤣
I got so frustrated with this. Even on the easiest difficulty, AI are very OP in vehicles especially in the Wild Cat. They seems never miss.
I don't know if these are the actual controls on console but for controller I would suggest this as a translation. Left Stick left and right rolls the helicopter, right stick left and right controls turning. Left stick up and down controls the orientation of the nose, while right stick up and down controls the elevation up and down. Hopefully this works for some people.
I tested in BF2042 and thought I had lost it completely, ran a round in BF 4 and there it worked perfectly.
May review the keyboard settings because as it is now I get no feeling on the flight
did you solved your problem cause i have the same one
Please do an entire video on flares, dodging rockets, the capabilities of each aircraft.
This ^
They finally added the Apache and the Alligator. Im hyped
Yes, I was very pleased that they added those iconic heli’s as well, but the flight physics in this build are completely fucked in my opinion.
@@lejenddairy I loved the flight physics in 3 and 4. They are the epitome of realistic to me
@@supernova8604 it's about as realistic as helicopters can get in video games without making them frustrating
@@baconatoromg6062 Yeah. If you understood how helicopters fly in real life, (Not saying you know nothing about helicopters) you'd see how realistic they are in both BF3 and 4. Its awesome
Did kinda decent first time flying. Still remember basics from Battlefield Vietnam. Didn't play fb3 or bf4.
It became so easy to control heli these times. You can pitch down without pressing W and heli will not move forward. In BF3 it was way more challenging and skillfull.
I set my keybinds for rolling to A & D and use the mouse for all of my aiming is so much more precise.
Doom im gonna fucking cry man you just appeared in my recommended after years without watching you man, the nostalgia of the bf3 days holy fuck
everyone goes like 'it's super easy to fly in this game' and me, I die when trying >.
For me, it’s so easy that it’s hard. The gravity is like your on the moon and it completely breaks my brain.
Try to fly in bf4
I think it's harder for people to fly in BF2042 when they came from other games with much better flight models. Being entirely unable to proper use my flightstick is definitely not helping me any.
@@iilhares Yeah they’ll probably add that feature but flying just felt boring. BFV & BF4 aren’t flight sims by any means, but I at least felt that some physics were involved and that made it fun. Flying helicopters in 2042 was like flying hot air balloons and planes were rendered unusable for me due to paired controls with the heli and lack of flight stick support.
Heli controls are crap. Bf3 and 4 are masterpieces compared to this.
Do you really want someone that has been only using helicopters for over a decade to get kills on battlefield 2042 that easily? Your opinion would destroy the game for anyone thats trying to switch from other games, meaning your precious battlefield will fail in the end from your perspective. Try growing up and using guns, you might just have some real fun playing this beta
Thats gota be the most wack logic I have heard. "Do you really want fans of this franchise, who have supported it for "a decade" to be able to port their skills to the next game? -- nO bEcAuSE TheY WoUlD be TO gOoD at ThE GamE". I dont even play BF and trying to fly those heli's is super unfun.
Then new players might have to spend more time to learn how to fly compare to veteran like you. Coming from BF4, not everyone can fly like you do. I like BF2042 make it easier to fly versus spending 100 hours to get used to it.
@@zhen1763 How is it making it easier? You mean making it harder for everyone to hit anything? BF3 and BF4 had consistent mechanic. Now it is a game for 6 year olds. Maybe with controller it is easier, but with Keyboard and mouse it is disaster.
@@MadRabbit0wnzu Dumb logic. I'm a BF3 chopper vet and that has nothing to do with it. It has to do with realism, fun, consistency and balance. BF3 choppers were OP for pilots like me who regularly racked up 50+ kill streaks. BF4 put a stop to that by balancing everything correctly. BF2042 physics and controls are just wack, like Warzone choppers, no one wants that apart from 10 year olds
thank you, finally I know how to turn fast
Awesome! Thank you. I really needed this. I keep crashing those helicopters randomly xD
thank you so much. i had no idea how to use helicopters and they are a really hard to fly
Circle strafing isnt really possible for sustained circles in BF due to the lack of momentum and drift when youre flying level. With the contant nose down, youre going to eventuallypitch up or risk getting too close and/or overshooting your intended flight path.
I thought that at first but I then increased my circular strafe distance from the target which helps to not overshoot, and the closer you you want to get to that target you use more roll angle for that tighter turn & circle. Granted there are times when you're having to pitch around adjusting that circular strafe (and thus you're not centred on your target whilst that's happening) so use that time to reload rockets whilst always keeping a few in reserve when you really have no choice but to attack (couple more hits for the kill). The most common times it goes awry is when you're fixated on the target instead of concentrating on continuing your perfect circular strafe which ultimately makes you have to compensate losing precious reticule acquisition.
very nice video thank you going to practice the roll with Q and E seems like game changer
What did you reassign E and Q to in the key binding settings? Just tried out this combo and it's great. Thanks so much for your video. Made a massive difference to my outcome.
had no idea you could bind barrel roll, you are my hero
Maybe a nice add for your great video :
Tip 1 : Add/customise ping/common rose button on your d-pad➡️( the same as your standard repair button,(activate equipment slot 2).
(menu-options-contoller-controller schemes-edit controller mappings-pilot-ping commonrose[HOLD]
So that you repair button has 2 functions at the same time,ping and repair.( on pc you can add it on any button you feel fine with)This way you can ping the distance for the sweatspot for the miniguns.(The sweatspot is about 50m)
This is also very helpfull for your jets to ping enemy vehicles for your second attack run with the air to ground missiles for example.
And very helpfull for the hind,condor and attack chopper so your teammates in the transport gunner seats know where the pilots target is and help you to destroy the enemy threat(choppers jets vehicles) etc.
Tip 2 : Make sure the helicopter control assist is set off.(Menu-options-controller-vehicles)
Ill make a video to explain,cheers thanks for your video
I haven't played a bf game since bf3 and I started flying that chopper like i never stopped playing in a couple of hours. The scout heli is my favorite.
If somebody struggle with default control settings of heli in bf. Try to switch from left-right on mouse to left-right on keyboard. E.g. Roll Left - A-key, Roll Right D-key and Yaw Left Mouse-Left, Yaw-Right Mouse-Right. That's work perfectly for me even on jets.)))
I say don’t fix what isn’t broken. I’m not sure why the BF4 experience wasn’t simply imported. Momentum and low speed maneuverability specially makes a lot of the fun, high precision close quarter flying possible in BF4 no longer be possible.
The spin up delay on the little birds miniguns also suggests this to me. Quick hit and dip really doesn’t feel possible any more.
Both helicopters seem to have better weapons and are much faster overall.
Damage feedback, as in all vehicles is terrible.
I have mixed feelings. Looking forward to more maps with better physical cover to play around in the helis.
the bf4 helis were just to hard to fly for the casuals... it is sad man
You: so now you understand the basic controls
Me: lives 45 seconds
This is the video I been waiting for…
Do you think that the flying is way more sluggish than in BF4? I certainly felt that way. In BF4 I got use to pumping almost constantly up and down small movements to keep the accuracy but that now wasn't possible as changing direction from up to down takes almost a second. and then strafing felt like it now has way more momentum to it and therefore is way less accurate.
Has anyone else felt that way?
Definitely, they also changed the fire rate for the little bird machine guns. Something's fucky with the aiming being locked to accelerating and decelerating too. Wish they kept the bf4 controls.
Ever since hardline the helicopters have felt sluggish
@@AnonymusHippopotamus yeah they are terrible. I was so used to the BF4 miniguns that were instantanious. These new ones takes like allmost a second to wind up. That truly fuck with the aim as I previously allready would have killed them in that time.
@@gamofin3447 it's a bit hard to put into words what's so weird about them, but anyone who spent significant time flying in bf4 will notice it right away. Hopefully enough people say something to the devs so they can adjust that before full launch.
@@AnonymusHippopotamus Agreed. And honestly the choppers look like shit. So fat and clumsy. Nothing like BF4s sleak beautys.
This got me up and running quickly. 2042 controls are odd. Been playing BF since 1942
I think flying in this game is more difficult to do than any other game I've played. Which I'm happy for that, they made it more skill based rather than simplified.
xD, I played it and it's just like a little feather on the sky, bruh, play arma 3, or any simulator of war and you'll see what's really a helicopter. Btw I hate the fact this game doesn't have a joystick support, there's no fun in flying without a joystick.
As someone whos vaguely flew in bf4 despite having abt 1500hrs, i really enjoy the bf 2042 flying experience, its rewarding for new pilots and easy to learn.
flying is a joke in this game lol.
it sucks that the key binding in the beta is broken. In battlefield 4 I switched my roll and yaw controls so that I controlled yaw with the mouse and roll with the keyboard, in the beta its bugged so when you do this either you cant yaw left or cant yaw right. I'm back to square 1 in the beta learning to aim with the default flight controls. Good thing the new scout heli has free-kills dumb fire rockets, don't even need to be accurate lol.
I had key binding issues as well but I turned off my logitech mouse settings that automatically detect games. Seems to cause a lot of binding issues.
Console flight controls are so ass omg 💀
I assume we’ll be able to change to customs in the full release tho
Bro I'm telling you. All I want is to use the triggers for throttle like days of old
@@MrDionstarrr just gimme Gta5 controls tbh
@@hightiergod2182 idk bout GTA controls. Don't remember liking those. I just want bf3/4 controls back
Kiiwiin lol Gta helicopter controls make is hard to strafe because the helicopter keeps trying to pull up when you pull the nose down. It’s like a swing of death,
@@marlinanenomeposeidonthdar4677 I mean like without auto stabilization. Just the keybinds yk
What about "Shift" button? Assistant Flight. I can not fully understand how it works and when to use
I've got to relearn how to fly from the past battlefield games they changed the way the pitch and yaw are mapped on controller
You can change heli stick setting in game... Its just bugged atm
Another tip is if you like the feel when steering with the mouse, you can instead use the arrow keys
Yaw left does not work if you want to yaw with mouse, and this is triggering me, they have to fix it ASAP, i saw that i am not the only one with this problem.
Me in GTA5: Ace Pilot
Me in Battlefield: A miracle I can get off the ground
Thank you for the video. Please make more.
This overview of helicopter flying was great - please make another video with tips on flying!
When you roll and yaw at the same time to engage a turn that called making a coordinated turn.
Flying heli in BF4 feel more precise but also more free and agile.
BF6 Beta felt like a free to play combination of Cod and BF for me.
I will continue playing BF4, my favourite one.
Awesome video this helps me allot i gonne practice more ☺️
I just checked your Battlefield 3 tutorial and had to double check whether it is the same person because you sounded differently 10 years ago! lol Thanks anyways, nice tutorial!
To anyone whos serious about aircraft gameplay I highly suggest to buy a joystick or use a controller. M&K is inferior (compared to sticks) when it comes to air vehicles imo.
actualy it better to do the rolls on A and D and yawing on the mouse, but i have a bug which lets me yawn only 1 side, i hope they fix it... =\
Yeah I had the same problem. I feel like it would be so much more intuitive to just do all my aiming with the mouse. I keep trying to and forgetting that mouse is roll, and then I about flip myself over lol.
Is there a thing called assisted flight in 2042 I keep seeing ppl talking about it. If so I want it off
it is always on. thats how it will be. they lost me with that i will give the game back
This is probably the best guide about helis I’ve seen so far, would love to see one about jets too
This is a very cool video. Boasted my confidence in chopper. Thanks.
That sharp turn thing could be really usefull in a dogfight
nice one... I'm new to flying and I'm searching for it... i need more for aircraft, planes and vehicles tutos ...
I have soooo many problems with planes and helicopters in Battlefield..
I had always a natural talent in flying in GTA 5. I didnt have to practice and still felt like a pro, seeing others fail to control their planes/helicopters. But surprisingly thats not the case in Battlefield for me. I always crash. I just can't deal with my plane/helicopter tilting/rotating when I use the mouse to aim on a target :(
Flying a helicopter is battlefield is seriously some hard shit I can't even comprehend how people can do this shit naturally
Super helpful thanks a bunch
Hello if i put Yaw right and yaw left with my mouse, it Will only yaw right…. Left is not working at all……..
You Guys have the same problem?
Its a known bug, got fixed in the current build of the game but I doubt they'll fix it in the beta.
This video is magnificent. I've always fared much better in armour than in the sky in BF games and I'm known in my squad for being the "Plx get me out of the pilot seat ASAP" chap 😅
I've watched a few vids and this is by far the most concise and direct explanation of flight mechanics, especially for a fellow old skoolin' inverted Y-axis person. Thank you. The only constructive criticism that I can give is that this vid would also benefit from a quick rundown of the keybindings and settings at the beginning, inc stuff like increasing 3rd person FOV and sensitivity sliders which would make this proper comprehensive...but then I don't know if you've covered this in another video lol
Thank you for this, Imma gonna see what my M(inutes) to D ratio is like after flying in solo! 😁
Can you do a jet video ? Are the keys and controls the same for a jet ?
Thanks Doom, I'm switching from console to pc, and this helped me out a lot 🤘😁
I'm so confused
I was a master of the little bird in BF3, >3000k kills and multiple 50+ kill streaks
2042? I still cant figure out how to spawn in a heli... I've even Googled it... Still can't figure it out 😂
When you are on deploy screen, you can see a car icon under the deploy button in the hq there you can select different vehicles
@@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319 the problem is it doesnt spawn me in that vehicle
Go into the settings and try different control settings
@@s13zenki it just happens, it doesn't deploy you. You just need to go as infantry and die, same bug was in bf1 aswell
@@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319 Thank you, I finally did it, only to find there's no Veteran controls so it's completely unplayable for me. Worse still the physics are now more arcadey and closer to Warzone than BF3..... RIP Battlefield
Hey y'all... there is only keyboard as well (which I use in all BF).. using wasd and up/down/left/right arrows on the right... would love to hear advantages and disadvantages by using this technique vs mouse and keyboard... thank you in advance and keep the great work!
It took me one round to learn how to fly a helicopter, Muscle memory at its finest
Which button is used to activate free look around in the helicopter ? Through the gun sights?
I had free movement with the gun sight. How do you turn it on? I can't find it? Where does the helicopter's free-range weapon sight turn on?
Where is menu-option please ? ughh
so if you're doing Q and E for barrel role, what are you using to enter and exit the vehicle? I can just foresee the game throwing me out of the chopper with E still bound to entering a vehicle....
first time in BF with KB/M...and holy crap i suck in choppers. I don't know if i have a settings issue or what, but as soon as the plane starts going towards the ground, nothing i do with the KB or mouse saves it...it just goes right into the ground
I kinda expected gunsight keybinds all things considered.
Maybe once they add a heli keybind tab
i love how it flies but what’s assisted flight? i don’t feel a difference
Thanks, more info on being locked and how to best use flare would have been handy
BF3 Heli controls are still by far the best for me.
If you vind Q and E to roll, Wich buttons do u use for exit and spot?
How do you call in the helicopter? I know the field vehicle is ground vehicles but I don’t know how to call in air vehicles. Is it on the deployment screen?
You have to get it via the vehicle spawn just under your home spawn point as far as I know.
I've played every game since BF3 and I never got into using any vehicles, tanks being an exception. I maybe have 5 kills in total with airplanes/helicopters.
Nice video. I gotta find a controller guide now.
What annoys me is that I have no indication where the lock on is coming from. The damage area on the heli model on the hud sort of helps but it’s not entirely clear. I really like that BF4 had this and I wish they’d bring it back and hope they do. It’s made even more annoying by the fact that wildcats blend in pretty well to the ground, making my hatred for them even more intense
Stop. Complaining.
Nice, I suck at flying in BF4, this guide helps. Looks like BF2042 make flying easier for keyboard and mouse, I know some people hate it because the controls is crap. I wonder did they change the learning curve for jets or attacker aircraft as well.
Show us techniques to shake a locking on pilot, and how to dodge an incoming missile in the chopper.
I like to get higher elevation than the enemy chopper in a helicopter fight. In the little bird, you can simply barrel roll as the missile is on its way and it'll miss you without needing flares
You are amazing. Great video ty
Ok Q and E to roll but E is bound to jumping in and out of vehicles what did you bind to?
I never used knd piloting before and kept crashing for quiet a few games. I was starting to wonder if I should get a controller for my pc? Now I can get 30+ kills doe after a lot of grinding, but wondering if anyone has a "qualified" opinion on pros and cons of piloting with mnk vs controller? Are you missing maneuverability with mnk since you miss all the the angles beween wasd on knd compared to 360 degree movement on a stick?
Great video. Yes please! More helicopter content! I need to get gud and love flying them in BF, I just struggle getting kills with them.
they should have added seperate key bindings for the helo so you can get comfy with both the jet and the helo. now i've got controls for both while the workings of them are totaly different
what did they change compared to bf3 and bf4? because i cant fly for shit in bf2042 and i was pretty good in bf3 and bf4. did they invert something? something just doesnt feel right but i cant figure out what
I use Keyboard, Keyboard and have done since BF2, I find it way better thou flight controls have become more simple with each version of BF
Is it possible to switch controls back on ps5 to go up and down with R2/L2?
Bro. I have been raging alllllll day about this. THIS IS THE ONEEEE FUCKING thing I have been dealing with. Something so fucking small. I tried all the settings. Flying with the sticks is for retards. Bf3 and 4 used the triggers for throttle. I can't fly this dogshit.
@@MrDionstarrr I was hoping I was missing something but looks like setting is missing in general. It was called "Veteran" setting before. This is crap I say
@@cyber_sek I really hope they correct this. It's like learning how to walk again for me. It's so non intuitive to use both sticks. It's like driving with a foot on the brake and a foot on the gas.
@@MrDionstarrr i got a bit used to it but it's nowhere as good as before. I am missing the precision in maneuvers
@@cyber_sek yeah I have managed to not crash anymore. But my immaculate maneuvering and ability to engage ground targets effectively is pretty much gone
Great tutorial and yes would like to see more of these tutorials