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SRIXON Z-STAR, Q-Star, AD333 - Golf Ball Test vs TITLEIST PRO V1
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- It's known industry wide that the Titleist Pro V1 is the best ball in golf - It should be considering the price of them!
Srixon, however, have a range of golf balls priced A LOT cheaper! Do Srixon have a premium golf ball?
In this test, I put the Pro V1 up against; Srixon Z-Star, Z-Star XV, Z-Star Diamond, Q-Star and AD333.
Does the price reflect performance OR are Srixon, the biggest golf ball manufacturer in the world, being fair with their pricing?
I’m using the @FlightScopeGolf Mevo Plus to gather the data for this test!
#golf #golfball #prov1
0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Price of the Balls
2:39 - The Test
3.42 - Montage
4:55 - Test Explained
5:37 - LW Test Results
7:15 - PW Test Results
8:16 - 7i Test Results
10:04 - Driver Test Results
12:27 - Conclusion
13:30 - Outro
What this test shows really is that the AD333 is a brilliant ball and great value.
I totally agree! The price to quality ratio is huge! I don’t throw them away when I find them on the golf course 😂
How would you compare Srixon family of balls to Callaways? 🤔
@@TKGolfYT I haven't used many callaway balls to be honest. I have some in the garage at the moment, but I found they suited one of my mates better than me!
Just durability of ad333 is absolutely terrible. Rather buy qstar tour.
For half the price too. I’ve just brought my 1st dozen to take to the course tomorrow
Brilliant video - you deserve way more views! (Have shared with my golf friends!)
Thank you very much 😊 it’s my first video like this, so with any luck it continues to rack up the views 💪🏻 more videos like this on their way 😊
@maxsecunda - getting somewhere now :) Thank you for sharing!
I've been away from the game for over a decade and i really appreciate this video. I used to play Bridgestone or Callaway balls that are no longer made and my game was so much better back then too. I'm looking for a soft ball that still has good distance but has to stop. Never was a fan of the ProV since I got just as good performance from cheaper balls. Since I rely more on my short game spin and feel are important to me. Nice to see the level of detail you can get from the launch monitors now.
Thank you so much for the feedback! Really glad this video has helped you :) It's tough finding the right golf ball isnt it! Im in the process of filming a video about golf ball compression and what balls are best for certain types of players... so hopefully that video is something you find useful too! Should be live on the channel this week :)
Great video! I switched from ProV1s (cost, losing too many) to the Srixon Q-Star Tour. I didn't notice it spinning much less on the greens, but it felt MUCH softer! Everyone thinks the ProV1s are so soft, because of the Urethane cover, but Srixon's also have Urethane covers! In addition, the Q-Star Tour is only a 67 compression ball vs. the 87 compression on the ProV1s. At 65 years old and a 10 hdcp, I much prefer the Q-Star ball! And in the winter, when it gets a bit colder, the Srixon Soft Feel at 56 compression is perfect!
It really does blow my mind about the cost difference! Over the course of a busy season, it adds up 🤷🏼♂️
Have you used any other brands cheaper balls? 🤔
@@TKGolfYT Yes, my favorite ball is the Bridgestone Tour B RXS balls- soft, and super spin. However, they too are getting expensive, so I changed to the Bridgestone e12 ball. I liked the e12 Soft, but last year Bridgestone combined the e12 Soft and the e12 Distance Ball to produce the e12 Contact, which I didn't like as well. That's when I moved over to the Srixon Q-Star Tour and that's my favorite "cheaper" ball now!
@@jimsaddler942 I’ve been playing the Q-Star myself for about 5 years….. I worked at a golf shops for several years and was able to get and try them all….. the Q-Star is an excellent ball and a good value to boot.
I went through two boxes of XV this year and really liked them. Awesome to see this test validate them. Bought them on sale $34.99. Like the yellow on the Srixon balls as well. Titleist kind of copied it tbh
I played a round with one today and I was so impressed. I didn’t expect them to be as good, but they are… at least that imo 😊 it will be in my bag from now on I think 💪🏻
I found a Z Star XV on the course. Played it along with a few other balls for a week or two. Next thing I know I'm checking out this ball that is longer than any of the others Pro V1 included. And now it is the ball I choose to play! Pretty impressive considering no ball could beat my Pro V1 before.
It’s wild how good they are for the price 😊 I think they get overlooked because they are priced so much lower than the “leading” balls 🤷🏼♂️
Hopefully this video can help people see that there are other balls good enough to play with for less 💪🏻
Played XV plenty of times. For as long as that ball is off the tee, it stops daamn well. I just don't have the swingspeed to get the most benefit
I tend to play Q Star Tour. Here in Australia I can buy them for AUD40 or £22. They are an excellent golf ball with a urethane cover. I was surprised however at the results for the AD333 which here are called Q Star. A very good all rounder that is very popular at my golf club.
I didn’t realise they were called something different in Aus! All round great ball 😊
I learned the game as a teen and learned the differance between balls/brands as my supply of balls came from hunting for lost balls of the country club i caddied at. When i began buying golf balls (around 1989), i quickly stopped using Titleist balls due to cost. Maxfli was the brand for a long time. Then Strata came out and changed everything. my point is there are many options to find an equivalent ball for less. Srixon has been my current ball of choice. Thanks for your work and information.
Thank you for the kind comment 😊 Srixon are great balls! The z-star XV is my go to ball 💪🏻
Great vid .
Funnily enough I just bought my first ever srixon balls last evening, Q Star tour
You won’t regret it 💪🏻 great golf ball! The z-start XV is still in my bag 🙌🏻
Just been playing the Z star XV. for 2 weeks. in Spain, its right up there with my 2 other favourite best priced golf balls, The TM Tour Response and the Wilson Staff -Triad. the Tour response is still my favourite..
I have been meaning to try the Wilson Staff actually 🤔
Peter Finch really likes them.. rating the TP5X the best then the Staff...the next price point lower is the Triad and the Tour Response.@@TKGolfYT
I saw that video actually! There’s so many balls out there now! It’s worth doing these types of videos to show that the ProV1 isn’t as far ahead in the game as they make out 💪🏻
Congratulations, you put in alot of effort there, and the data cant be faulted due to the volume sample, i use srixon q star tour, im 64 years old, moderate swing speed.
They check up and prop due to the urethane cover, and price is great, srixon make great balls and great irons at the right prices
Love love love tge Qstar Tour Divide. I swear I get more distance, too, maybe because they just go straighter. Feels sooo good everywhere too
Thank you very much, I appreciate the feedback 😊
Srixon could be charging a lot more for these golf balls if they wanted to… sign of a great company if they only charge what’s fair!
Love the Q-Star Tour. Feel soft, fly straight, and DO bite on the greens. Srixon runs a buy two dozen, get one dozen free about twice per year, so I load up on them. I also got two others in our golf league hooked on the as well. More people need to put this ball in play!
@@jimsaddler942
Those balls are indestructible too. 3 dozen will be lost before unplayable lol
Interesting and well thought out test 👍
Appreciate that! Thank you 😊
Excellent job. Thank you
Thank you 😊 really appreciate it!
When I feel lazy and week, and gonna be out having fun, QSTAR TOUR Divide is my ball. Hell, I will play that with sone of my competition rounds. Long, great in the wind feels the best everywhere, and they STOP on the green. If I am going premium, ill go Srixon z star. Feels almost as good as the Q star tour but maybe a lil more distance and mYbe a lil nicer in the wind. Really though, that q star feels sooo good
very thorough results, would love to see more brand head to heads
Need to get my hands on some more brands then 💪🏻
Be interesting to get a take on the regular Q Star and the AD333 Tour models as well.
I think they are good balls 😊 but this test showed that they are probably below “premium” status. The AD333 is up there with the best value for money balls out there!
I F -ing LOVE the Q starvtour Divide. Honest to God go try them. Unless your swing speed is 118 mph you will will really enjoy them. They feel better than a pro v1 on any shot and they STOP. Long, straight, DURABILITY will surprise you, putts great, wind is not a factor, and they are fun. Get the Yellow /Orange DIVIDE. Fun as heck in the air. You can work them too. They are like $10 a slave at my course, 100% a great ball.
Same ball according to Srixon. Just named different in the States.
In addition to the cheaper price, usually you can find buy two get one free so that's three dozen for around $72.
Spot on! Saw a Christmas deal like that and jumped on it this week!! 💪🏻
A really good watch , I use Pro v1 as well as AD333 in winter . Bridgestone BRXS seem long . Most golfers should be using the AD333.
Thank you! I appreciate that 😊 I find a lot of AD333 around my home course to be fair 🤔
What would make you consider using one of the z-stars over the Pro V1? 😊
Callaway SuperSoft in the winter! Very low compression ball! However, I prefer the Srixon Soft Feel for winter play.
Srixon is my favorite brand of golf balls to play. The value for what you get is great!
Totally agree! 🙌🏻 makes me think I should be considering their clubs more often 🤔
Appreciate the grind. Wonder if you could do the exact same test but with the prov 1X? I won 3 doz but am currently playing the q star tour and just wondering what the data would show. Thanks!!!
Im planning a video this week around golf ball compressions and will use the Prov 1x in that test. The test will include some of the same data points so you can compare! Keep an eye out for that!
Love this guy ❤
I've been using the XVs for the past 3 years. Can't beat the 2 for 1 Father's Day deals on this premium ball. Good to see it holds up. It would have been nice to see the standard deviations. Titleist tote themselves as being the most consistent performing ball.
I think that’s one start I should have included to be honest. I’ll try to include it going forward 😊 I do find that the XV does always test well but also performs well on the course 😊
Good review. I may try
They are worth a sleeve for testing at least 💪🏻 thank you for the feedback! Hopefully you enjoy other bits of my content too! 😊
Great video 👍
Much appreciated, thank you 😊
Paul
If I recall the srixon soft feel were around £18 a dozen not sure now .
So cheap! Cheaper than the Callaway Supersoft if you need a low compression golf ball 🤔
Great set of data and great approach to the test. The Q-Star Tour… is that the new ball released in spring 2024? If it’s the previous version yours is still interesting data but the 2024 version has a slightly harder compression. Still below 80 but it’s still much lower than the entire Z line and the Pro V line.
Some other subtle changes to the 2024 Q-Star Tour as well but I haven’t played them yet.
I was using the 2023 in this video! Haven’t actually tried a 2024 🤔 I have the z-Star XV (8) in the back at the moment 😊
Thanks, very kool
Thank you 😊 hopefully you found it helpful and entertaining (only my first real video, still getting used to doing this 💪🏻)
i love tp5x but they are expensive so i typically just buy one box of those a year and go for some cheaper options like the q star is 2 dozen for 40 sometimes so thats a sweet deal
Great review and very thought provoking. Srixon have more patent rights than any other ball company and I think in the UK the best selling ball is AD333.
Thank you 😊 really appreciate the feedback! That wouldn’t surprise me to be honest! Great golf balls
Brilliant 👍👍
There is a Qstar tour and Qstar in the US
I would be interested to see what the numbers look like on a 115-120 mph swing speed with the driver. I think the pro v might be a little better at those speeds seeing as the numbers got closer as the speed increased to 100+ mph.
If I could swing it that fast, I’d test it 😂 I think the diamond would start to perform better at those speeds! Srixon staffed players tend to use that ball 🤔
Good review. You've put a lot of time into this test. The question that arises for me is not, why the Z-Star £35 a dozen. It is why the Pro-V1 is £50 a dozen.
Thank you 😊
Yeah, I tend to agree with your questions as well, but other brands are also charging same/similar prices as Titleist 🤔
@@TKGolfYT Same question should be applied to them also. Difficult to imagine such a sharp difference in manufacturing and transportation costs causing it.
Because two reasons: 1) Because they can! And 2) Marketing/Advertising expenses.
@@jimsaddler942 Couldn't those same reasons / excuses, be used by Srixon if they so wished?
Yes, they could, but the advertising budget for Titleist is much higher. @@algernonwolfwhistle6351
Could pricing be aimed at a certain group like cheapest for the occasional player . And do ladies golfballs go further and can males use them.???
I don’t think so 🤔 the balls are good enough to charge the same as titleist, Callaway and TM - they just don’t. I think it’s because they spend less money on marketing 😊
Very useful data but hows about the best ball for seniors who can’t swing driver at 104mph, my swing speed is a miserable 82 but at 76yrs young it ain’t gonna increase. Laying up on par fours is normal for us oldies so we tend to be useful with a wedge, therefore stopping power is a major concern. Our idea ball would be long off the tee but high spinning around the greens.
I uploaded a video to my channel after this one discussing golf ball compression which covers this point 😊 very similar test with various balls at various speeds 😊
You kept asking "why are the Srixon cheaper?". Maybe a better question is "why does Titleist charge so much and keep raising their prices?" I tend to feel Titleist overcharges because they can, not because it's worth it. Titleist is like Rolex. Great product, I own a few. Are they the best? Nope. Have more people just HEARD that they're the best therefore assume it's true? Definitely. I know plenty of 20 handicappers who refuse to play any other ball despite their complete inability to improve or use the features of the ball that they just paid $54.99 a dozen for. Great review.
Thank you for the feedback 😊 I think Titleist can charge what they want unfortunately! The advertising is too good 😂
Any reason you didn’t include the distance ball ? Only reason I’m asking is I’ve just bought 2 dozen and haven’t tried them yet
More than anything, I’d have been testing too many balls. Also, I wanted to see why the z-stars were so much cheaper than the ProV1.
Maybe I should do the same test for “non premium” balls 🤔
@@TKGolfYT having just started playing again after over a decade away Id certainly be interested to see that as I’m not going to be using premium balls any time soon. Certainly appreciate the effort you’ve put into this test though fair play 👍
Here in the United States the cost of Srixon is almost the same as Titleist. A box of Pro V1's is $50 and the Z-Star is $45.
That’s interesting 🤔 I didn’t realise the price was so close! I think Srixon still do the 3 for 2 deal over there as well though? 😊
I bought a dozen Z-Star (not sure which ones) and gave half of them away because they felt like rocks off the putter and I lost all confidence. I'm a bit Srixon-shy now, which is probably just as well as my two playing partners usually play Srixon never check their balls properly on the fairway or in the rough to make sure they are hitting the right ball
That’s interesting 🤔 I haven’t found them to be hard balls to be fair. Out of interest, what golf ball do you prefer to use? 😊
@@TKGolfYT I've just returned to golf after 30 odd years out of the game and have struggled to find my ball thus far....most modern balls feel quite different against my 1980s putter compared with what I used to like (Titleist 90). Last week I finally bought a modern putter with the insert (the final club in my bag to be replaced) so here's hoping finding my ball will be easier. Yes...feel off the putter face is my primary selection criterion and always has been.
I'm currently enjoying Taylor Made's TP5x and also like Bridgestone's Tour B XS. Both balls costing me more money than my game suggests is warranted and my swing speed isn't suited to the XS. Of the more affordable balls, I quite like Taylor Made's BZR but apparently it doesn't stop and I like to carry rather than run on. I tried Titleist's Tru Feel but it felt dead off the putter face
Welcome back to the game! 💪🏻😊 I’ve never used older balls, I’ve “only” been playing for about 10yrs (5yrs more seriously), so wouldn’t be able to comment on the change in feel.
Have you tried any softer balls? The Srixon Ultra Soft perhaps?
@@TKGolfYT Thanks for the welcome back .
I've got a few different Srixons that I've found in the rough. All found balls go into my warm-up bag but maybe I should try some of the newer ones out on the course.
Hopefully you find a ball that works for you 😊 Srixon will always be good value, but there are plenty of other soft balls out there 💪🏻
On corse and on proper greens you’ll notice some difference. The AD333’s do not stop… No comparison to Pro V etc
Are the AD333 called “Soft Feel” in America ? That’s what I’ve been told.
I think it’s called q-star in the US. But I could be wrong 😬
Which of the Srixon balls would you recommend for someone who swings the driver 85mph? I’ve shied away from the Z series because they all promote needing a fast swing speed. Some say that’s a myth and the average golfer can benefit from a higher compression ball, too. What do you think?
So, before I started the channel, I really enjoyed playing with Callaway golf balls. Last winter, I tried the Supersoft and I found that these balls were flying A LOT further than the Chrome Soft I was using. The supersoft is a Low compression golf ball. With that experience, I’m confident you would benefit from a low compression golf ball! 😊 try something like a Srixon Soft Feel, or possibly a Q-Star Tour 😊
I may do a video on low compression golf balls soonish 🤔 would you be ok if I used your comment in my video? 😊
@@TKGolfYT Sure thing! This whole “compression marketing, based on your swing speed” is confusing and there are some saying it’s a myth - that everyone can use a Titleist Pro V1X and benefit. I agree that a urthene covered ball helps an average golfer score better, when it grabs the green, instead of rolling past the hole every time. I just want to figure out the best ball for my game and would welcome more videos on the topic. 👍
@@sscully67 not a problem 😊 I’m going to get some research done and I’ll get a video out as soon as I can! I’m very interested in understanding this topic myself 💪🏻😊
I swear I felt my Qstars were going further a bit than z stars. I get about a full club extra. QSTAR TOUR is tge SHIZZZNIT
I wasn’t quite getting the number with the q-star, but you for sure right about the feel! They are great for that!
I didn’t go into detail about feel because it’s too subjective 😊 a feel I prefer, others might not
Fair point. One thing though, is Q stars tours seem to go straighter. Maybe that's why I feel I get a bit more out of them, not sure.
I will say we play a lot in windy conditions too, and Srixon in general perform better (for me) in winds. I do keep a sleve of Z star in the bag for a few holes that need some shape. QST are to straight sometimes 😂😂😂
Best
PAUL,
I suppose price is for ability. Or as I look at it EVERY BALL IS SAME PRICE WHEN LOST .
😂😂 good way of looking at it!
It appears that any of the five are a good ball its just a matter of cost
Yeah exactly 😊 for me, the conclusion was that the Z-Stars are all comparable to the Pro V1 (one maybe better than another depending on golfer), but considering the price of the Q-Star and AD333… they are great balls for the price!
Z star divide is a pretty good ball. Has a lot of spin compared to others I’ve played. Xxio is better. TaylorMade your soft, response and distance all also very good.
I’ve never actually tested Taylormade balls! They are on my list though 👀
What irons are you using?!
They are the Callaway Mavriks 2017
Another variable that I look for is durability and Srixon balls were not as durable when compared to titleist pro v1 and taylormade TP5
You’re not wrong there, I’ll give you that! I’ll be honest though, I tend to lose a ball before its durability comes into question 😂 in the simulator though, I tend to retire a Srixon ball sooner than a titleist!
What ball do you game as a rule? 😊
You need to see what most other professional coaches say is normal spin rate for a driver. It’s 2000 rpm. So that 1950 with the cheapest ball you said was way off, is actually pretty much dead on with the Z Star XV at just 2100+. The best average over all was the standard Z Star. What you should have shown but did not was which one had the tightest dispersion. Finding fairways is more important than anything. Why not test the chrome soft? And where I live, the Chrome soft are the exact same price as the Pro V1.
The lowest average spin rate on the PGA tour is 2,112 🤔 The average spin rate on the PGA tour is 2,546. Low spin is great for distance, but not good for control 🤷🏼♂️
I don’t really find any premium ball better at hitting fairways than another, so dispersion for golf ball test doesn’t really make sense to me 🤔 there would be a 1-2y difference if that and my dispersion is at least 50y with a driver 😂
The reason for not testing the chrome soft in the video… this was a video about testing the Srixon range of balls against the pro v1. Most consider the pro v1 the best ball in golf. I wanted to show that Srixon had a line up of cheaper options that can compete 😊
I’ve tested the Callaway chrome tour against the pro v1 which may be more suited to you than this video 🤔 I also have plans for a larger test which would include the chrome soft 😊
How are you a 10 handicap with those distances? Should be 6 handicap. 😊
I really struggle off the tee to be honest Neil 😂 also, my clubs are very strong lofted. Still using a set I bought when I was an 18 handicap 😊
New irons are a goal for me this year 💪🏻
Feel off the putter is another often overlooked consideration in these tests. I personally love the feel of the Qstar coming off the putter face.
I totally agree, it’s very subjective though. I try to avoid offering too much of my own option of subjective things 😊
Srixon does the “ Buy 2 get 1 free “ sale so often that they could just lower their price year young and tell the consumer they are on their side and I bet they would triple their sales.
Yeah that’s a good point to be fair! But I wonder if people wouldn’t consider them a premium ball if the price was so low 🤔
descent angle
Oh that’s so annoying 🙈😂 thank you! For sure won’t be changing it… but I’ll spell check in future 😂
AD333 is the winner looking at the stats.
Zstar and zstar diamond are a level above the prov 1 . I have a membership at a private course and can pull off a tee time slot all to myself a couple times a week and put all 3 in play every hole . Prov 1 is not longer then the zstar off the tee , and no ball is even close to the diamond around the greens. Im a 3hcp. Forget your trackman numbers , hence why titleist started making balls just for simulators , because sums dont read normal balls well at all
I agree, I use the Z Star and the Z Star XV. Not. A fan of the Pro V1. It’s a good ball but others are better for me. I love the Callaway Chrome Soft X LS also.
From these results SRIXON should be more in price.
As a scr golfer I've long known that srixon balls are class....sadly tho u concluded that the ad333 isnt there best ball...when clearly is...especially when it's so cheap...no brainer.
I think that the AD333 is probably their best value for money ball 😊 and it probably should be their best selling ball.
I would probably prefer to play the XV though 🤔 still a great price and easily competes with the premium balls - that’s for me though.
I think the diamond results show that certain balls are better for certain players 😊 a ball fitting is overlooked all the time and should really be considered by everyone! 😊
I guess it will all change when the geniuses roll back the ball soon as an average player who doesn’t hit it a mile I’m not happy
I don’t see the point myself 🤷🏼♂️ they can just make the fairways smaller for pros imo
marketing is everything-- I play the q star tour for my 63 yr old swing
I agree! Titleist adverts are everywhere on golf broadcasting!
The q-star is a great ball. I think the compression is a little low for me 🤔 I did a video this week about that and it really opened my eyes! 😊
@@TKGolfYT picked up a sleeve of the z star, going to get at it tomorrow ,excited.
my driver speed is 85... should be interesting .with that number and a higher compression ball.
rainy season in Vancouver BC, here's hoping .
The AD333 is the same ball as the Q Star.
I bot the AD333 and they came from overseas. I called Srixon and asked why they don't sell the AD333 in the states. They told me the AD333 and the Q Star are the exact same ball. Just named different in the States.
Seems strange to call them different names 🤷🏼♂️ but still, a great ball 😊
Your test seems fairly comprehensive but not being ablecto spell "descent" makes it look amateurish.
Good point, well made :) Id blame auto correct, but thats no excuse! Thank you for the feedback :)
He thinks srixon is bigger than titleist? Srixon might be in the top 8 maybe.
Srixon are the biggest golf ball manufacturer 😊 but as a global brand and all round golfing manufacturer, you’re totally right, Titleist are currently way ahead! 😊
@@TKGolfYT I wouldn’t say Titleist is really that far ahead of Srixon/Cleveland/Dunlop. Srixon has better irons and fairway woods imo and wedges, putters, and drivers are very comparable in performance.
Lmfao the xv is the least spiniest ball of all of them, your trackman hasnt bin calibrated in years. You should go by attack angle more so then clubhead speed
I did hit a lot of balls to get to those results to be fair 😂
my favorite ball is the q star has been for years
I can understand why 😊