Yet, our history is chock-full of instances where political violence has fixed such issues throughout history. The Boston Tea Party, American Civil War, The French Revolution, you can easily find instances throughout America's History. You don't have to support it, but to say you've never seen it fix systems in history, come on David you are better than that.
United Healthcare denied surgery for my wife to have a cancerous tumor removed; luckily for her, the hospital performed the surgery anyway to save her life and went after United Healthcare afterward. She has been doing fantastic 8 years later. United Healthcare would rather have you die to save them money.
They are a business for profit like all businesses corporations companies. But they will do and say anything to take your money anyway they can, and deny you everything they can, to enrich themselves and the stockholders at any expense, including killing people by denying the care they need. They are licensed Legalized murderers and can and will get away with it. And our own traitors government politicians criminals traitors cheats liers theives crooks know about it, but won't do anything about it.
People simping for these corpos by saying it’s legal and that they’re doing nothing wrong. I hope they never get to feel what it’s like to be denied help because you’re too poor
@@johnheaton5058then let me put it in different word If you make your money out of the misery of other people expect some karma Do you think a baker 👨🍳 would have been shot ?
What is the value of a human life? Is it infinite? If it took all of the money in the world to save one person would it be worth it? In a capitalist society there is a value attached to everything, including human life. Some lives are deemed worth more than others and there is a top limit to which a corporation will pay to save any one particular person. In this case UNH is being cheap and callous but every last health insurance company has a limit.
I was visiting a Scandinavian country 2 years ago, as a tourist. I fell ill few days before my scheduled departure, and took a cab to the ER. I had high fever, I was vomiting, everything was spinning. They started to work on me immediately. They did the blood work, urine analysis, scans, etc. When I was better they asked me about my insurance. Next day, after taking medicine and few bottles of IV, I felt good enough to leave. They told me they were unable to contact my insurance back in USA. I asked to see the bill. It was $ 67. That's it, for everything. I paid on the spot and felt extreme anger and disgust toward USA and the way it is governed...
Similar story. Every couple of years I and a group of friends go on a cycling trip in Austria. Last year one of the group had an accident and broke her ankle, and she ended up having a lot of hardware installed to rebuild the ankle there in Austria. My mom had a similar injury many years ago in Florida and ended up paying tens of thousands of dollars even with good insurance. The charge in Austria without insurance? $1,300. Just over a thousand dollars. It's really amazing how inexpensive medical care is in Europe compared to the US, yet there are lots of people in this country who would rather be denied medical care or overpay for it.
I married a Swede over 40 years ago and followed her home, because she steadfastedly _refused_ to live in the US. I do too. My two adult offspring don't mind visiting relatives back in the States, but have zero interest in living in such a scammocracy.
@@GRDwasherenot really. It was never intended to function like this when it was set up. The corporations and companies slowly lobbied and entrenched themselves into making it be how it is now...
There is a saying in logic which states:" The purpose of a system is what it does, it makes no sense to argue that a system was designed to do something other than what it does"@@cameronspence4977
My friend is a pharmacist and has told me that he will usually send a claim, it will be rejected, he'll send the same thing 10 minutes later, and it will be approved because according to him, "They always reject the first claim."
A few years ago I had a blepharoplasty. My doctor told me the same thing - they always reject the first claim. UHC approved it when it was re submitted.
@@iananddaniwell realistically its more like 650 patients, for their entire life assuming they live to 85-90 years old. But I think its the principle of it is whats upsetting people.
@@peterbills4129 every other industrialized country doesn't have this problem with their Healthcare, it's just the US. Healthcare shouldn't be for profit.
Whats particularly disgusting about this story is UHC denies the claim not because they don't think its medically necessary, but becasue they're trying to stall in hopes the patient passes away before they have to cover it.
Unironically, I'll say to someone, "We don't have healthcare." And they'll respond, "What do you mean? We have health insurance companies and hospitals." That's how far gone we are oml
Obamacare ACA still has improvements that many still rely on eg preexisting conditions and age 26 for kids etc. republicans gutted so many provisions over the years that it’s only a shell of its former self.
I remember years ago there was an unscripted British comedy show called Bremner, Bird and Fortune and one of the sketches had characters of a journalist interviewing an executive from a train leasing company and the journalist asked the executive if it was right to say they provided the trains for the British rail system and the executive said "I think system is a strong word to use".
The system is literally designed for them to do that though. You should sue the Republican voters who keep voting for politicians who block reform and lie about better health care systems.
They should be sued because they deny based solely on their opinion. They don’t deny biased on a medical background. They deny because Rebecca doesn’t think Maria needs surgery. And that’s wrong in its self.
Whenever somebody says “but the CEO had a family,” I say yeah, and so did all the other people who lost their battles with chronic diseases because of the claims his company denied Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying what happened to the CEO is good, just that there’s a disproportionate amount of grief and outrage over the loss of that life but almost no attention in the media to all the other lives lost as a result of the practices of United and these other huge companies
And even of they did go to the hospital for shits and giggles, doctors and nurses have more than enough real work to do, rather than waste time on people without issues.
@@brandonjade2146 It's entirely political. Denial is how we got here. Get ready for years of shit while billionaires buy up media to further dilute facts.
I needed a surgery last year that cost 10'000 swiss. I was charged with 10%/1'000 by my health insurance company which was covered by the governement because I'm retired. I had to pay zero! I live in Switzerland. I didn't have to answer ANY questions when delivered to the emergency. My surgeon was german, the anesthisist from Türkiye and the nurse was from Sri Lanka. The cab driver that took me home was Egyptian and covered by insurance. The nice old lady at the desk in the hospital was swiss. I paid health insurance all my life (mandatory, reasonable rates) and now I got it all back! We don't call this socialsim, we call this HEALTH CARE !!
So many of us wish we were from Switzerland at the moment, or another sane country that actually operates to the benefit of it's people and the world. We most definitely do not.
My relatives in Geneva used to complain about having (almost nothing compared to America)to pay for insurance. Then we told them how expensive our insurance and health costs are, and they shut up!
It’s like $500 a year in tax in Australia for the Medicare levy and the Americans all lose their mind when our free hospital and heavily subsidised medicines are mentioned like we’re paying tens of thousands for it.
I hear your point. My thoughts are slavery has never ended it was just repackaged. A black man walking down the street is worth nothing to the system, put him in prison and he's worth up to 307k a year. Cost varies state to state and private prisons are required to charge 10% less than state prisons. The 307k I mentioned is for one inmate in a Massachusetts State Penitentiary per year. Statistically more black men are imprisoned than any other race. Our system is so broken.
After watching Michael Moote's "Sicko" for the second time, it finally clicked. Health insurance companies exist because we allow them to exist! If Americans would just stand up and say "No more of this insanity" and protested like we've never protested before, we can make universal health care possible. We could make a lot of things better!
I’m a retired physician. On one occasion I was arguing with an insurance company functionary who was denying my appealling on behalf of my patient. When I accused her of practicing medicine without a license, she replied that she wasn’t saying the patient didn’t need the care, just that the insurance company wouldn’t pay for it. There are endless stories. Personally I feel the system is beyond repair. The question is how many people will die before it changes. Sadly I am not sure it will come peacefully or in my lifetime
@@Me-fy8ue As someone who has worked on AI for 15 years I can wholeheartedly say this is the worst implementation of AI that I have seen. It's like using a sword for stitching
@@connielentz1114 don't you have laws that private hospitals can't turn away anyone regardless if they can pay ... And if you require outpatient or long term care there are church hospitals who except everyone.... What is your problem
My daughter has a terminal illness and has been denied multiple times for infusion. She currently has a surgery scheduled for the 16th of January but we are still waiting on approval. F this company and everything they stand for
@@JessicaDaineseNo health care is not considered a right. You don’t have the money or insurance you may not get any health care or you may get poor care. 1/2 of all bankruptcies in the US are due to medical debt.
@@JessicaDainese In the United States politicians are more concerned about ensuring that guns and large corporations have rights than about ensuring that human beings have rights.
So while Dr. Oz insists that ppl without insurance do not have a right to healthcare, insurance companies are saying that comatose people *with* insurance ALSO do not have a right to healthcare. So basically, no one has a right to healthcare. As if we needed another reason to Free Luigi.
Same, seeing more and more tests not being covered by insurance has been infuriating. Having to have my pts sign ABNs because tests like A1C or vitamin d aren't covered is getting depressing.
Same, I work in Hospice and I see patients who have had strokes because a blood thinner wasn’t covered 5 years ago. It should be criminal, our “healthcare” system!
As a UK surgeon I’m aware I earn around a 1/4 of what my doctor friends in the USA do (put away the tiny violins!) However my children have had healthcare which would have cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars. We’ve paid £0. I feel well rewarded to live in a country that looks after all of its citizens, you’ll hear no complaints from me! I’m proud to work for the NHS and feel well rewarded!
Exactly. I’m American and fled that thug of a country years ago. And all the other Americans who condone it. I was an educator at the same place for a decade and couldn’t get full time or health insurance. Only ONE insurance offering tenure position was available in that decade. And the department chairs don’t fight for it. They let the bean counters take over and write stories about about the failure of the education system. Happy living in Europe. 😊
Doctor, eight years ago in Quebec, Canada, over 700 doctors signed a petition to the government turning down the raise they had just received. They asked instead that those funds go to nursing and other patient support, so that they, the doctors, could do their work more effectively. I feel these are doctors I can trust to look after my needs. Thank you for caring more about people than about money!
As a Scottish citizen of U.K. can i urge you to move too a national health service such as we have here. My daughter developed kidney failure at the age of 17. She had years of dialysis, two transplants and superb care following a stroke which she suffered from at the age of 35. The mere thought of payment or any other thought about money for her care did not even enter my head. My heart goes out to anyone in the U.S. who has to deal with how too pay for illness. Sadly my daughter passed away aged 38. I shall be forever grateful to the National Health Service for the care she recieved.
Sorry for your loss - I am glad though she was cared for (medically) without having to worry about costs or finances. And the NHS is pretty good - however, American's can look at virtually any developed country for a better system than they have. The NHS focuses on lower costs and high quality, at the expense of speed; the French system is expensive (though not as expensive as the US's system) but has fast and high quality care. Every country has different focuses and ways of achieving universal coverage, but the US system seems to have the worst aspects of most other systems.
Canada has it's issues too. There are long wait times but if it's an emergency, you'll be looked after and I don't have to go bankrupt paying for the bill.
When I was in the Army, my son had a serious injury, had to go to the ER. Military Healthcare pays 100%. I had *ZERO* concerns for cost just for his well being. This is the way it *should* be in the US.
@@mariomario1462 she didn't threaten them and threats are sadly not a crime. That's what officers always tell to women that suffer stalking and harassment, they don't do anything until someone commits the crime.
@@Sam.1tolv well actually yes it was a crime which is why she's in jail. She threatened them as any reasonable person would understand it to be. You trying to glaze a murderer doesn't make it not a crime and unethical
I just got off the phone with an elderly lady whose insurance company ends TONIGHT their payment for her necessary stay at a rehab center. She has to either sell her piano -- she is a musician and composer -- in order to stay ONE more month, or go home where she desperately needs 24-hour care in order to live. We discussed the fact that the "American Dream" today is that white picket fence UNTIL you finally need healthcare as a senior citizen at which point, as an American, you are expected to sell everything you have in order to pay for healthcare. Once you are penniless and homeless, your American Dream in this country is to die on your own, in the gutter without a home or food. That has literally become the American Dream. Her story is not unique. I've witnessed many others -- people who lived their lives, as she did (full-time school teacher) working full time for a full career only to be bled into poverty, as a literal guarantee, by the healthcare system we now live with in America. That is now the American Dream.
Few weeks ago my wife was sick with a respiratory bug and we went to a Urgent Care. After waiting for an hour her turn came up and the office girl told her it was going to cost $280 for the visit. We were surprised by how much it was. We asked why so high and the girl said it’s what UHC contracted the price. At that moment I understood why the CEO was murdered. Such BS the cost of healthcare in this country.
What alternative is there? Our "System" has shown time and time again that it isn't going to fix anything. The atrocities of the insurance industry is a product of the system I guess David thinks is somehow going to participate in fixing the problems it's designed to create.
I’m Australian. If you go in to a public hospital emergency department and have surgery, it costs us nothing except any prescription medications on discharge, and they are normal price. My Dad got a pacemaker that saved his life, at no cost. We do pay in to universal healthcare through our taxes, relative to income. Do people like paying for it, not always, but lives are saved every day and that’s how a decent, civil society should work.
Same in Finland. I have chronic issues and the only thing I have to pay for is my meds whenever my bottle empties. And it's like 30 bucks per bottle of 200 pills. I can't even begin to imagine how expensive that would be in USA money
@Batz-on-paws IN the UK, a lot of peopel are even exempt from paying for drugs. IN Scotland an Wales, nobody does. IN England the poorest don't pay, for prescriptions, the over 60s don't pay, diabetics don't pay, cancer patients don't either. Even if you do it's only about £9 a prescription.
My father who had an accident and became a quadriplegic who also had united for nearly 15 years and when he needed them, they denied and dropped him after a month, and shortly after being bounced around hospital to hospital he ended up in hospice where he passed away at 47. This all happened in a span of 3 months after his accident, and before they dropped him he was making progress and as actually able to breathe and talk on his own. I don’t have sympathy for that CEO, I do feel for his family, but not him or any other health insurance ceo shaking right now.
I worked in a children's icu for many years. I saw denied claims for children, who were sent hone to die. This has been going on for absolutely years. Time to wake up, and change the system!
I was scheduled for an mri. I went to see a primary care doctor in Anaheim hills named Jason. I went to get my knee checked out and the doctor grabbed my knee and twisted it making the injury far worst. His only solution was to say sorry he shouldn’t have done that and he can prescribe me pain meds 🤮. Pos American typical doctor. A few weeks later my insurance kicked me off which has never happened before. I hate the American healthcare system! Evil scumbags!
Yes, and if something happened and they needed to do sudden, emergency other surgeries while the appendectomy is happening, you'd still pay zero, even if the net total is well over 50k in tests, blood, man hours, and machinery. As far as I know, I've never paid 50k in a single year's taxes, but the Canadian Govmt would spend that on me if needed. I'm fine with NEVER needing healthcare and STILL paying my share so someone else can benefit.
I’m Canadian and 5 years ago I almost lost my life. I was placed in a medically induced coma and was transferred to a larger city 90 miles away. I had suffered a pulmonary embolism. I had severe double pneumonia and that’s when they found a very large hole in my heart. It was touch and go everyday until I finally woke up. I couldn’t talk, walk, eat, drink etc and had to relearn it all. I was in the hospital for a month in the critical care ICU. 8 months later I had open heart surgery at the same hospital. I can’t imagine how much that would have cost me if I lived in the U.S. I really don’t know how I could have focused on my healing and recovery if I had all of those hospital bills. My heart aches for everyone who has experienced such unbelievable costs just to save their lives and then try to recover.
Yes, we have a term for the stress caused financial stress due to medical cost-it is truly only a US phenomenon: "Financial Toxicity". Heavily studied and shaved at least 1-2 years off of cancer patients who do not have their care completely covered.
There is a way to avoid paying everything as an American, but it would result in the inability to get financial loans, a nice place to live, and leasing quite literally anything: throw away the bills 😂
As an academic historian with significant post-graduate work in American and European history, anyone who says that there isn’t historical precedent for violence to produce real and lasting change is actually telling you that they’re ignorant of the histories of France, America, China, Russia, Italy, and many many many other nations.
I've been struggling to think of an incident in US history where a brazen assassination on the sidewalk had such spontaneous support. Especially this support from both sides of the aisle. Can you think of a comparable assassination or some such that _united_ the left and the right like this? ...even outside of the US nothing comes to my mind
My doctor quit a few years ago, they were tired of having to spend so much time at the computer, trying to get patients health coverage to actually cover their treatments. 100% insanity.
@LightSoundGeometryFxI completely understand your frustrations but please, please for your sake delete your comment. I understand it's none of my business and Imo you said nothing wrong but legally it might be to your benefit to delete it.
I am an RN. I was scolded because I recommended sending a suicidal patient to a facility closer to her family in order to aid in a better transition. This would have delayed discharge which the “Case Managers” did not like. They sent the patient to a facility 3 hours from loved ones. This is just a minor incident. The health care system is broken.
A lesser-discussed aspect of this is just how much time doctors and nurses waste dealing with denials, we don't have enough professionals as it is, their time and ability are worth so much more.
Our nurses in NZ would strike if they had to deal with insurance. That's not what they trained to do. The nurses union is one of our most powerful, along with the teachers union.
@ When I lived in Germany there was a brief period 2000s/10s where they tried implementing a small copay (10 bucks) so the insurance companies would get more money. It caused legit mental breakdowns for these poor doctors to have to suddenly have a register and nurses as cashiers. Many older ones, including mine, retired early bc it was too much. They did away with it but the threat always looms. Even when we get our healthcare for all, we'll have to defend it to keep it, greed knows no bounds with these billionaires.
This is why the “war of attrition” that covid 19 was, was ultimately lost before it began. We are bogged down with evil corpos screwing doctors over and over again and idiots denying covid back then no wonder so many quit the medical profession.
David, I have been a nurse for 18yrs, and you did an excellent job explaining the ridiculous medical system and the charges! Many years ago before I became disabled I was a GI nurse for a liver and GI cancer specialist and spent most of my days fighting insurance companies tooth and nail. The games insurance played were disgusting (this was pre- Obama Care Act). I appreciate that you mentioned that the bills are made higher at hospitals for private insurance patients due to non-paying, delinquent patients, as well as Medicaid and Medicare not reimbursing as well as private insurance. Thus when a private insurance patient arrives the hospital will charge MORE for the exact same items "because they can". Imagine if the grocery store could do what hospitals do and charge different customers different prices for the same brand gallon of milk ranging from $2- $200 for one gallon? How is that a fair system? It is all sick on so many levels.
The worst is paying when you don't have insurance. I think a physical cost 300 dollars or something like that. I joked that was an expensive letter saying that everything was fine. It bothers me when people blame people without insurance when I always paid my medical bills immediately. Then, I started having to sit on them and wait for my insurance and doctor's office to finish fighting.
@@tracycraft in most places it is in fact cheaper to pay out of pocket as it is less then the deductible. sick people are taken advantage of but you can literally haggle the cost down as the listed price is the insured price which has the 10,000% mark up
Some weeks ago I was complaining to my friends about having to pay 55 euros for an important vaccine I needed, which is not entirely covered by my insurance. But then I watch American news, and I suddenly feel completely fine again by having to pay only 55 euros...
Yeah… I went to get bloodwork and my ear looked at and was charged $1700…and that’s with a discount.. 😢 America is all about profit. They don’t care about lives. That’s why they allow toxins in our food. They want us sick.
No, the US itself. Doesnt matter if they are R or D. The US is a egocentric Society. The US is always cutting costs and it's all for profit. Except Nazi Israel
@@mikestock969Joe Biden is responsible for the way the entire history of America has played out? Wow, that’s an interesting take there buddy. You know that you can disagree with political policies without sounding like a completely out of your mind weirdo? No one is out to get you, make you live a life you don’t want to live, and we can compromise on policies, but that requires logical and levelheaded thinking - not whatever your comment was.
We look at the world the British screwed over well into the 20th Century , from slavery in the US to Iran, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, India, China with disgust as well.
I'm in Canada, never had a claim denied. Never paid a dime in healthcare costs, no monthly premiums, no copay, no deductable, never saw a doctors bill. universal healthcare works. why, because its simply the right thing to do.
@@jinglejazz7537 No, you DO pay for healthcare in Canada. Everyone does, through tax revenue. Healthcare in Canada isn't free-the citzens collectively pay for it. The only difference is the mechanism in how it is paid for. Remember that.
@@a.girouard2988 Not the only difference. The BIGGEST difference is that there are no parasites sucking massive profits out of it, so it costs less for everyone.
@@a.girouard2988 Sure. But here's the difference. I make minimum wage, and struggle to pay my daily bills. But I pay my taxes. And when (not if), I fall sick or get injured, I go to the hospital. And they help me. And I pay nothing at that moment (or next to nothing) In the States I can be in the exact same situation but when I need medical care I end up paying tens of thousands of dollars to be treated. Which I just don't have. Worse, I've been paying into medical insurance so that when I got sick or injured someone would cover my bill for me. And then they just refuse to cover it, meaning I'm even worse off because I spent all that money for insurance that is refusing to do what I paid for it. Basically poor, elderly, and vulnerable people can be sick in Canada without it being ruinous to their lives. In the States it can be a flat out death sentence.
@@a.girouard2988 read my email. I know we pay through taxes. however I never have to pay when I go to hospital, doctor, have surgery, ambulance rides. meds are covered 100%. However what I pay in taxes is a whole lot less than what americans pay. Peace of mind.
UHC denied me open heart surgery at the hospital 5 minutes from home forced a transfer to a different hospital then denied both hospital claims and ambulance bills. Make it make sense.
@@elxarrallke Nah m8. Stop blaming the medical professionals. That's smoke and mirrors from the real culprits: The for profit health care companies. Yes some doctors are greedy. Big deal. Most do an awesome job with the scraps they are giving paying off their USD600000+ educational debt.
The Tylenol charge is true. I had a nurse deny me Tylenol in front of her supervisor, only to return later with one from her purse. She said she did this all the time because she was ashamed of their charging practices. It was just a Tylenol but I think she is a quiet hero.
While I don't agree with murder I am not exactly upset either. He's the ONLY reason our healthcare system is in the headlines right now. I have yet to share any of my feelings about this whole situation. We need universal health care.
you should be, you americans are utterly pathetic, beyond pathetic the fact you arent upset that a man was MURDERED leaving a wife and kids behind is disgusting, you guys dont deserve universal healthcare if youre this grotesque. You have nothing in common with us europeans, we give affordable healthcare for all because its morally right, not because some pathetic child murdered someone.
Even with tory underfunding and wrecking of the NHS for 14 years ( to please their US donors, some of which are 'healthcare' companies) having our NHS means we live longer in the UK than they do in the US. We need to get behind the current plans to rebuild it again. It's infuriating that Labour always come in, fix it (with the support and hard work of those working in the NHS), then the tories come in and trash it. Voters (including NHS workers) never learn and just vote tory again when it's fixed.
@@alisonwilson9749I agree 100%, I’m actually a kiwi who lived in Canada for 17 years before coming to Scotland. The nhs, (even stripped as it has become) is the best system that I’ve experienced. Perhaps the New Zealand midwifery, pregnancy care and early start programs are preferable to what I’ve seen in the UK. But other than that the nhs absolutely needs to be protected and restored.
I live in Australia, we have national healthcare (which the conservative party constantly attacks and undermines). September 2024 I had major abdominal surgery. The total cost for that, including five days in a private hospital and all care was AU$1000 (which was the surgeon's fee - everything else was free). Had it been emergency surgery or had I gone for a public hospital the cost would have been zero. This is what socialised medicine looks like. It isn't "communism", it's civilisation. Fight for a proper healthcare system.
I had a similar experience, I fell from my bicycle, broke a hip. Free ambulance ride to ED, free xrays, free surgery (hip replacement), free anaesthetic, free ward stay. This is what a civilised country does.
Saffer here who similarly enjoys free national healthcare from the safety and comfort of the third world. You'll have a hard time getting the Americans to let go of their ingrained (inbred?) sound-alike knee-jerk whenever they encounter a word or phrase starting with social.
@@DavidLucas-zq8gb No it isn't, it's a privatized for-profit scheme that doesn't load balance shared risk amongst its members, it load balances its moral hazard (look it up) on external actors to the detriment of the members who actually foot the bill.
God forbid you're a senior citizen in our country and find yourself sick in the hospital. Our healthcare companies would rather you die than accept your claim.
They are a private business that rips people off. If you pay for a service, it needs to be provided. Particularly when it involves peoples lives. In other words, Its bad to choose greed over lives. That is bad. @russellmiles2861
It's sickening what's going on other countries are so ahead of us in so many aspects and we're supposed to be the leader of the free world but don't have universal healthcare is wild
Leader of the free world? As an Aussie in Europe I gotta say that is something Americans tell themselves, none of us think that about you guys - having said that many of us are horrified at how bad these insurance companies treat your people and it makes me so angry good honest people have such a difficult time getting the Care they need in your country. Solidarity my friends!
@@lisasteel6817 The 2A protects you from the government -- not private corporations. Now, they are the same thing, but the laws haven't changed accordingly.
I have been a type 1 diabetic since 1994 (30 years) and more than once I have received letters from my health insurance company (different ones over the year) telling me that my insulin pump is NOT medically necessary. I was dumbfounded. My doctor prescribed it. Not my pcp, my endocrinologist. I appealed it each time and got the pump. But these devices are only good for 5 years then you have to get another one (unless it is a disposable pump like Omnipod). So this fight is not a one time fight. And pumps are around $5000, not counting the supplies that go with them. As a diabetic, i am tired of fighting every time I need supplies and even with insurance, it is very expensive. I am 52 years old and this fight will continue until I die. And I am not alone. This is unacceptable.
My stay in the hospital for 2 days was 15k a day for the room. This did not include my gall bladder surgery not a single penny. The room, a cheeseburger, fries, 2 bags of saline, and no pain meds was 15k a day.
Insurance companies are practicing medicine without a license every time they deem what is and what is not is a necessity. They should be sued for malpractice.
I'm an inpatient RN, and a vocal critic of our despicable, for-profit healthcare system. I did medical insurance billing prior to becoming a nurse for psychiatric providers. I once saw an insurer approve 20 additional mental health visits for a patient who desperately needed them only to revoke them after the patient used them. The doctor appealed TWICE (I personally handled it) but the pathetic excuse given after 2 appeals was "We never should have approved them under his particular policy." An already fragile patient then had to be billed for 20 visits at the provider's rate, and even 20+ years ago, that was well over 2 grand. I've watched people die slowly because they can't afford medications, food, and clean spaces to live at once. This is WRONG, full-stop. We have bastardized healthcare into a money-making system that further enriches already rich people. It can't be for-profit and patient-centered.
Insurance companies don’t practice medicine. They are a payment company in essence. Just because they deny coverage for something doesn’t mean that you cannot ultimately get medical care if you were willing to pay for it. Of course most won’t and I wouldn’t blame them.
@@purelogarithm It's not so much about being "willing." A huge percentage of Americans can't afford a $400 emergency. A lot of them are willing to lose their homes and accumulate a lot of debt to stay alive, but many don't have that option, and anyway that's a very bad option, and it doesn't need to be the only choice. All the other developed nations use their taxes for delivering healthcare, because it's MUCH CHEAPER for everyone this way. Turns out choosing to let people lose their homes and jobs is actually really bad for the economy.
@bigdaddystovepipe People vote so Juan and Juanita cannot get a license or medical care because of Ignorance and prejudice of some American people.Meanwhile Juan and Juanita is paying taxes and social security he can never collect Its not the Immigrants breaking us. It's the billionaires.
First thing they ask for when going to the doctor or hospital is your insurance, your SS number and many other questions regarding your ability to pay the bill(s). Meanwhile you're dying and suffering... They should take care of the patient first, then worry about the payment... Things used to be worse, believe it or not. My grandfather was removed from his hospital bed once they found out he had no money to pay for the treatment.
Yup and you often have to pay an additional co pay before you can even see the doctor. My brother has to pay $100 in addition to his insurance before they let him see his doctor.
Exactly. It’s all about the corrupt political system that Americans don’t have universal health care. These huge companies lobby (bribe} the politicians to ensure their complicity in this outrageous system. Wake up USA. It’s great out here in the true democratic countries.
@@6361kris "More than 26 000 Americans die each year because of lack of health insurance"...this is the title of a scientific paper on pubmed What's worse?
No. Vigilante justice is not justice. We need journalists to get out of their stupid rich people/good health insurance bubble and understand what America is like for regular citizens. We need to use our words, like grown-ups. Lots of words.
@@Sarcasticronif those words fail will we keep using words until maybe somehow they might consider listening to a few of those words? Not the strongly worded letter! That's going too far!
I am an individual medical insurance agent that does NOT work for ANY carrier (I work for an agency). I've been in this field for about 40 years. I work/am licensed in WA state. I don't just help people pick their plans, I help them understand them. I've been through the 'pre ObamaCare' as well as now (I'm 60 years old atm). I've helped thousands of people 'navigate the horrors of healthcare' for this reason. I've also had dozens and dozens of conversations with clients that say they wish we had single payor/medicare for all etc and I tell them SO DO I! Some have said "wouldn't that put you out of a job?". YES - and likely put me out of a career and I AM TOTALLY ok with that, I would welcome it!. I mean every word of it too. I've seen it help people (ObamaCare with subsidy mostly) and I've cried with people trying to figure out how to pay or deal with denials, push backs etc from the carrier/insurance companies. I tell them I am in this field because soooo many people struggle with insurance and I help them navigate it. I have said 'I can't change rules or laws but I can damn sure help you learn to jump through their hoops'. ObamaCare did some much needed things but it is still a very broken system. I help my clients with appeals and go over bills and EOBs with them. We need single payor and we need it like decades ago.
@@DONUT2858 Not even close. I don't work for any insurance company and my service is FREE to clients so... just trying to help them navigate the craziness. wow....
People always say that they don't want a politician between them and healthcare. My question to them is then "you prefer to have prefer to have a CEO in between you and your healtcare, whose entire job is to deny care so they have more money for them?
$743/month premium plus endless copays just to beg insurance companies for 'medical necessity' approval? As an outsider, it's mind-boggling that one of the world's richest nations lets profit-driven companies play god with people's lives. While the state-by-state solution makes sense given the political gridlock, it's heartbreaking that Americans have to wait years for what most developed countries consider a basic human right. The system isn't just broken - it's morally bankrupt. 😐
I was scheduled for an mri. I went to see a primary care doctor in Anaheim hills named Jason. I went to get my knee checked out and the doctor grabbed my knee and twisted it making the injury far worst. His only solution was to say sorry he shouldn’t have done that and he can prescribe me pain meds 🤮. Pos American typical doctor. A few weeks later my insurance kicked me off which has never happened before. I hate the American healthcare system! Evil scumbags!
@@elxarrallke Unfortunately the practitioner's own limb-sparing surgery claims got denied by United Healthcare after being diagnosed with a very painful chondrosarcoma.
How do we fight the legalized corruption that exists with healthcare and pharmacy companies legally, through lobbyists, paying off senators and congress to keep everything the way it is?
As someone from the UK, this is shocking to me. I will never understand why America has ended up with a health system which puts profit before people. I am so grateful I live in a country where we have universal healthcare (NHS) 🙏 . I've been to hospital several times, including the use of an ambulance, and never had to worry about how much it will cost and can I afford it.
There are several things here. One, the US leads the world in access and outcomes in advanced care. Two, you don't have a large group of illegals plugging up your system like we do.
Because the billionaires sell it to Americans that in order for them to have it, they have to pay way more in taxes. People who are healthy get pissed and say I’m not paying so and so’s healthcare. They say countries that cover it via taxes have majority of their paychecks taken with horrific taxes and long wait times. A lot of Americans believe this BS because they have never traveled outside USA or met anyone foreign that they trust as foreigners are demonized to keep the masses dumb.
My daughter-in-law was in hospital for 6 weeks as she was a high-risk pregnancy. My granddaughter was born 9 weeks early and spent two months in the NICU and was only home for 3 weeks when she was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of leukemia. She was in hospital for 9 months in a room where her parents were able to live with her. She died just after her first birthday. There was no bill for her parents as the cost of all the care was zero. Why? Canada has national health care and as imperfect as it presently is, Canadians never go bankrupt or do without medical care because of money.
Was she at sick kids? I used to work there and met so many parents in that situation (in a research capacity), and people just talk to me for some reason. It was always so heartbreaking to hear these stories. I can't imagine parents having to deal with insurance while going through this.
So I'm genuinely asking. Idk if this is just propaganda or what but I've been told people in Canada when they try and get medical care are sometimes having to wait far too long. I'm just wondering how true that is.
@@breezybee777 If something *needs* to happen immediately, it does- full stop. There are problems with long waits if something isn't urgent, but pretty much every post I've seen about it is either greatly exaggerated, or people don't understand how bad waits for specialist can be in the states as well. It can be a very long time to see a specialist, and that can have a negative impact on your quality of life of course- but only when there isn't any reasonable possibility of danger to you. Also, there can be issues if you live in really remote regions getting access, but there are docs and nurses who's entire job is to travel to those areas to help serve them (and they have telemedicine access as well). My province will even pay for your travel and lodging (within reason) if you need to travel to a city to see a specialist. When you hear about people going to states for quicker care, it's *usually* just impatience.
Tell Biden to go all-out before Trump gets back into office! atadvocacy.com/biden-allout-117?ref=dp
@@thedavidpakmanshow
The democrats have had ample time to start the process and done basically nothing.
Stop looking to them for a solution.
Yet, our history is chock-full of instances where political violence has fixed such issues throughout history. The Boston Tea Party, American Civil War, The French Revolution, you can easily find instances throughout America's History. You don't have to support it, but to say you've never seen it fix systems in history, come on David you are better than that.
Signed
The only country with privatized for-profit healthcare, due to lobbying (aka bribery). That is the problem.
@@ladydeerheart1 Biden only has 17 days - I hope he has fast roller skates!
United Healthcare denied surgery for my wife to have a cancerous tumor removed; luckily for her, the hospital performed the surgery anyway to save her life and went after United Healthcare afterward. She has been doing fantastic 8 years later. United Healthcare would rather have you die to save them money.
Sue them and refuse to sign an nda. Thats how you make them pay.
So sad 😢
They are a business for profit like all businesses corporations companies. But they will do and say anything to take your money anyway they can, and deny you everything they can, to enrich themselves and the stockholders at any expense, including killing people by denying the care they need. They are licensed Legalized murderers and can and will get away with it. And our own traitors government politicians criminals traitors cheats liers theives crooks know about it, but won't do anything about it.
@@kitten7258-s3b It's despicable.
Thanks, capitalism.
Just because the murder weapon is paperwork doesn’t mean it isn’t murder.
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People simping for these corpos by saying it’s legal and that they’re doing nothing wrong. I hope they never get to feel what it’s like to be denied help because you’re too poor
@@johnheaton5058then let me put it in different word
If you make your money out of the misery of other people expect some karma
Do you think a baker 👨🍳 would have been shot ?
What is the value of a human life? Is it infinite? If it took all of the money in the world to save one person would it be worth it? In a capitalist society there is a value attached to everything, including human life. Some lives are deemed worth more than others and there is a top limit to which a corporation will pay to save any one particular person. In this case UNH is being cheap and callous but every last health insurance company has a limit.
Absolutely!
There needs to be a class action lawsuit against United Healthcare
Holy shit.
They’re all like this. I work at a call center and anthem is always reducing benefits on the elderly needy for no reason out of nowhere
@@kimkardashianjong-un6299 I guarantee you it isnt "no reason out of nowhere" and you just have no clue how things work.
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I want to be that lawyer
I was visiting a Scandinavian country 2 years ago, as a tourist. I fell ill few days before my scheduled departure, and took a cab to the ER. I had high fever, I was vomiting, everything was spinning. They started to work on me immediately. They did the blood work, urine analysis, scans, etc. When I was better they asked me about my insurance. Next day, after taking medicine and few bottles of IV, I felt good enough to leave. They told me they were unable to contact my insurance back in USA. I asked to see the bill. It was $ 67. That's it, for everything. I paid on the spot and felt extreme anger and disgust toward USA and the way it is governed...
Jep you basicly have an extreme right party and a center right party. Bernie sanders would be considered centrist here.
Bernie sanders would be considered centrist in most western european countries. That is why everything sucks in the USA
Similar story. Every couple of years I and a group of friends go on a cycling trip in Austria. Last year one of the group had an accident and broke her ankle, and she ended up having a lot of hardware installed to rebuild the ankle there in Austria. My mom had a similar injury many years ago in Florida and ended up paying tens of thousands of dollars even with good insurance. The charge in Austria without insurance? $1,300. Just over a thousand dollars. It's really amazing how inexpensive medical care is in Europe compared to the US, yet there are lots of people in this country who would rather be denied medical care or overpay for it.
I married a Swede over 40 years ago and followed her home, because she steadfastedly _refused_ to live in the US. I do too. My two adult offspring don't mind visiting relatives back in the States, but have zero interest in living in such a scammocracy.
The American dream is an nightmare for most Americans 😢
The system isn't broken, David. It is working exactly the way it was intended. That is the problem.
The sooner people realise this the sooner they will start to understand that they live under an oligarchy and have done so for quite some time now.
New system 🆕
THIS.
@@GRDwasherenot really. It was never intended to function like this when it was set up. The corporations and companies slowly lobbied and entrenched themselves into making it be how it is now...
There is a saying in logic which states:" The purpose of a system is what it does, it makes no sense to argue that a system was designed to do something other than what it does"@@cameronspence4977
How do the people of the U.S. tolerate this? NO OTHER NATION faces this. NONE.
No choice. Corporations own the process that allows these entities to exist.
Yeah but you don't live in the greatest country in the world. 😅😅
@@davezad you do have a choice. STOP VOTING REPUBLIANS!!!!
@@michaelwynne4346In your opinion
@@michaelwynne4346 The United States is not even in to top 20. It is borderline a s**thole nation. I left and have never looked back.
A for profit healthcare industry will never be patient centered.
You need to emigrate to Australia. Best health care in the world . Private and public 🥳
@@swarti2036 communists
Not when it's profit over People. It's no different than in the wild. Only the strongest survive.
Closest they can do is be patent centered.
@@swarti2036I would love to!
My friend is a pharmacist and has told me that he will usually send a claim, it will be rejected, he'll send the same thing 10 minutes later, and it will be approved because according to him, "They always reject the first claim."
Exactly. Because they know a certain portion of providers won't bother to bill again or won't realize it was denied until months later.
Look, I work for UHC. That is absolutely true.
A few years ago I had a blepharoplasty. My doctor told me the same thing - they always reject the first claim. UHC approved it when it was re submitted.
You know what would make America great? Healthcare as a right, not a luxury.
More like know what you are signing up and not what you can afford.
@kito1san more like people shouldn't shill for billionaires who see them as costs not people.
A constitutional and universal right.I just liked your comment as well.
@@kito1santhat is giving in to the system. The US population seems to love the concept of medical bankruptcy. Lack of brain cells
As well as housing and a college education
it also covers the cost of the CEO getting $65 million a year.
Mic dropped 🎤
Thats only like 60 patients
@@iananddaniwell realistically its more like 650 patients, for their entire life assuming they live to 85-90 years old. But I think its the principle of it is whats upsetting people.
Bingo
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I honestly dont believe its as low as 65 million
And with straight faces Billionaires are wondering why no one's giving a crap about them.
88 Billionaires gave to the Harris campaign/PACS.
55 Billionaires gave to the Trump campaign/PACS.
@@peterbills4129Bc Elonia already put 250 million to pay for the election. Bought and paid for. FAFO.
@peterbills4129 where to start with this trash talking point nonsense. 🤡
So billionaires put a woman in a coma???
@@peterbills4129 do you have a citation
These non-doctors denying claims should be charged for practicing medicine without a license.
yes this is very correct.
Absolutely!!!!
This is what happens when you believe the private sector should be in charge of your healthcare.
This is the result of Nixon allowing insurance companies to become a for profit industry! That's when all this BS started!.
No, this is what happens when Govt gets involved in prvt economics.
It's no different than Fed student college loans.
@@peterbills4129 every other industrialized country doesn't have this problem with their Healthcare, it's just the US. Healthcare shouldn't be for profit.
@@peterbills4129 What a load of crap.
@@peterbills4129 Is this opposite world? Are we on the same planet? Wtf is ur problem??
Whats particularly disgusting about this story is UHC denies the claim not because they don't think its medically necessary, but becasue they're trying to stall in hopes the patient passes away before they have to cover it.
That’s exactly correct.
SOP
Or it went through their AI and we know about how that is working for UHC.
They did this to my uncle as well. Trying to keep him from receiving Chemo for long enough so he would die.
DELAY
Bingo
The problem with the US healthcare system is that we DON’T HAVE ONE.
Unironically, I'll say to someone, "We don't have healthcare."
And they'll respond, "What do you mean? We have health insurance companies and hospitals."
That's how far gone we are oml
Exactly
Obamacare ACA still has improvements that many still rely on eg preexisting conditions and age 26 for kids etc. republicans gutted so many provisions over the years that it’s only a shell of its former self.
RIGHT it is NOT united for us or a healthcare. They don't really want us healed anyway.
I remember years ago there was an unscripted British comedy show called Bremner, Bird and Fortune and one of the sketches had characters of a journalist interviewing an executive from a train leasing company and the journalist asked the executive if it was right to say they provided the trains for the British rail system and the executive said "I think system is a strong word to use".
It’s not Health Care. It’s Wealth Care for them
They should be sued into oblivion for deciding medical procedures when not medical doctors.
We just got rejected from Humana
If they settle out of court or lose, then they raise the premiums for the rest of us.
@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr to mean oblivion means they don't exist anymore, any of them, and the system changes.
The system is literally designed for them to do that though. You should sue the Republican voters who keep voting for politicians who block reform and lie about better health care systems.
They should be sued because they deny based solely on their opinion. They don’t deny biased on a medical background. They deny because Rebecca doesn’t think Maria needs surgery. And that’s wrong in its self.
Whenever somebody says “but the CEO had a family,” I say yeah, and so did all the other people who lost their battles with chronic diseases because of the claims his company denied
Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying what happened to the CEO is good, just that there’s a disproportionate amount of grief and outrage over the loss of that life but almost no attention in the media to all the other lives lost as a result of the practices of United and these other huge companies
@pensivepenguin3000…Luigi should be freed and given a gold medal
You mean 1000s of other people
I only spare sympathy for young children and not the multiple adults that were inherently complicit
Exactly. While I do feel for the wife and kids, they now know what his customers feel like.
Exactly!
If someone is in a hospital getting care, it's medically necessary. No one goes to the hospital for shits and giggles.
(Maybe for the first one...) :p
Doc's account is gone. I wonder if they'll make David disappear for talking about it too.
And even of they did go to the hospital for shits and giggles, doctors and nurses have more than enough real work to do, rather than waste time on people without issues.
cosmetic surgery?
@@wadestantonthose can be medically necessary too
Putting a for-profit layer between care providers and people needing medical care is the problem. It needs to be removed.
Where are all the pro lifers and their outrage about this?
Hoping their United Healthcare share values don't fall.
Sending their thoughts and prayers as hard as they can. At a furious rate.
they were never prolife but hypocrites and charlatans
Dont make this abt politics there’s literally basically no issue we more unanimously agree on, dont ruin this
@@brandonjade2146 It's entirely political. Denial is how we got here. Get ready for years of shit while billionaires buy up media to further dilute facts.
I needed a surgery last year that cost 10'000 swiss. I was charged with 10%/1'000 by my health insurance company which was covered by the governement because I'm retired. I had to pay zero! I live in Switzerland. I didn't have to answer ANY questions when delivered to the emergency. My surgeon was german, the anesthisist from Türkiye and the nurse was from Sri Lanka. The cab driver that took me home was Egyptian and covered by insurance. The nice old lady at the desk in the hospital was swiss. I paid health insurance all my life (mandatory, reasonable rates) and now I got it all back! We don't call this socialsim, we call this HEALTH CARE !!
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So many of us wish we were from Switzerland at the moment, or another sane country that actually operates to the benefit of it's people and the world. We most definitely do not.
My relatives in Geneva used to complain about having (almost nothing compared to America)to pay for insurance. Then we told them how expensive our insurance and health costs are, and they shut up!
It’s like $500 a year in tax in Australia for the Medicare levy and the Americans all lose their mind when our free hospital and heavily subsidised medicines are mentioned like we’re paying tens of thousands for it.
Reasonable rates, you say? Well, we in the US can't run a healthcare system on magical leprechauns and unicorns now, can we?
"Violence hasn't fixed any system"
I mean it took a war to stop slavery here, but ok
And, lest we forget, the French Revolution!
I hear your point. My thoughts are slavery has never ended it was just repackaged. A black man walking down the street is worth nothing to the system, put him in prison and he's worth up to 307k a year. Cost varies state to state and private prisons are required to charge 10% less than state prisons. The 307k I mentioned is for one inmate in a Massachusetts State Penitentiary per year. Statistically more black men are imprisoned than any other race. Our system is so broken.
And the American revolution
Current generation is uneducated thanks to Ronnie Raygun's tax policy
He has to say stupid crap like that to protect his channel and his income. IOW, he's a paid propagandist.
@@timjefferson2137 Or maybe just maybe it's just his personal opinion we can discuss without demonizing him because we didn't take our meds? ;)
After watching Michael Moote's "Sicko" for the second time, it finally clicked. Health insurance companies exist because we allow them to exist! If Americans would just stand up and say "No more of this insanity" and protested like we've never protested before, we can make universal health care possible. We could make a lot of things better!
The Far Right are brainwashed and fight this! We need to make "News" Stations unable to LIE!
I’m a retired physician. On one occasion I was arguing with an insurance company functionary who was denying my appealling on behalf of my patient. When I accused her of practicing medicine without a license, she replied that she wasn’t saying the patient didn’t need the care, just that the insurance company wouldn’t pay for it. There are endless stories. Personally I feel the system is beyond repair. The question is how many people will die before it changes. Sadly I am not sure it will come peacefully or in my lifetime
AI denial
@@Me-fy8ue As someone who has worked on AI for 15 years I can wholeheartedly say this is the worst implementation of AI that I have seen. It's like using a sword for stitching
@@connielentz1114 don't you have laws that private hospitals can't turn away anyone regardless if they can pay ... And if you require outpatient or long term care there are church hospitals who except everyone.... What is your problem
At least you didn't write that Mangione is going to save the day like his stans. I swear the U.S. was smarter twenty years ago.
@@maryjaneshoe-fm4yr He won't save the day, but his actions have undoubtedly opened this subject up in a way that nothing ever has before.
My daughter has a terminal illness and has been denied multiple times for infusion. She currently has a surgery scheduled for the 16th of January but we are still waiting on approval. F this company and everything they stand for
Please don't give up, I'm sure you keep fighting their denials..make it public!!!
Make this story go viral!!!! Keep fighting!
they only stand for profits
They only stand for the maximum they can get in the next quarter.
That is pure evil. 🤬
Universal health care should be consudered a right.
It is, in the Italian Constitution. Does the American Constitution say anything about healthcare being a human right?
A lot of countries view it as a right
@@JessicaDaineseNo health care is not considered a right. You don’t have the money or insurance you may not get any health care or you may get poor care. 1/2 of all bankruptcies in the US are due to medical debt.
In the developed civilised world it is.....Healthcare free at the point of need.
@@JessicaDainese
In the United States politicians are more concerned about ensuring that guns and
large corporations have rights than about ensuring that human beings have rights.
Deny, depose, defend.
So while Dr. Oz insists that ppl without insurance do not have a right to healthcare, insurance companies are saying that comatose people *with* insurance ALSO do not have a right to healthcare. So basically, no one has a right to healthcare. As if we needed another reason to Free Luigi.
Who said that? Which insurance said this?
@mariomario1462 did you watch this video AT ALL???
@@mariomario1462 did you watch the video?
@@mariomario1462United. The one with the dead CEO.
@@mariomario1462 try watching the video perhaps
As a healthcare professional it sickens me to see this happening but I’m thankful that it’s finally being given the attention it deserves
It only took a 187 and national news coverage. Not like it's never been brought up before. /s
Same, seeing more and more tests not being covered by insurance has been infuriating. Having to have my pts sign ABNs because tests like A1C or vitamin d aren't covered is getting depressing.
Same, I work in Hospice and I see patients who have had strokes because a blood thinner wasn’t covered 5 years ago. It should be criminal, our “healthcare” system!
@@elxarrallkedidn't she just meant exactly that!
Thanks to Luigi Mangione
As a UK surgeon I’m aware I earn around a 1/4 of what my doctor friends in the USA do (put away the tiny violins!)
However my children have had healthcare which would have cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars.
We’ve paid £0.
I feel well rewarded to live in a country that looks after all of its citizens, you’ll hear no complaints from me!
I’m proud to work for the NHS and feel well rewarded!
Exactly. I’m American and fled that thug of a country years ago. And all the other Americans who condone it. I was an educator at the same place for a decade and couldn’t get full time or health insurance. Only ONE insurance offering tenure position was available in that decade. And the department chairs don’t fight for it. They let the bean counters take over and write stories about about the failure of the education system. Happy living in Europe. 😊
Perfect Dr, Bless you!!!
appreciated
Doctor, eight years ago in Quebec, Canada, over 700 doctors signed a petition to the government turning down the raise they had just received. They asked instead that those funds go to nursing and other patient support, so that they, the doctors, could do their work more effectively. I feel these are doctors I can trust to look after my needs. Thank you for caring more about people than about money!
To be fair most Americans pay £0 in healthcare too 🙃
UHC doesn’t believe that keeping the patient alive is medically necessary.
Congress, get off your butts And do something about PRIVATIZED HEALTHCARE!!!😡😡
Not while led by the GOP--It won't happen any time soon.
They will call you a communist
You mean…the do nothing congress? Don’t hold your breath
They get their own form of socialized medicine, so, I’m not sure how many of them actually care.
@@terrymckenzie8786Meanwhile, they all happily take the bribes from the insurance lobbyists.
I think these claim denials should be highlighted in mainstream media as a regular segment.
They won't allow it...
NPR just shut down their fantastic column about this issue.
not gonna happen. their owners also own corporations profiting from this sh^t
As a Scottish citizen of U.K. can i urge you to move too a national health service such as we have here.
My daughter developed kidney failure at the age of 17. She had years of dialysis, two transplants and superb care following a stroke which she suffered from at the age of 35.
The mere thought of payment or any other thought about money for her care did not even enter my head.
My heart goes out to anyone in the U.S. who has to deal with how too pay for illness.
Sadly my daughter passed away aged 38. I shall be forever grateful to the National Health Service for the care she recieved.
Our capitalist oppressive medical industrial complex of murder will never ever allow it.....wish I lived in a civilized nation.
My heart aches for your loss. Thank you for sharing such a poignant and compelling example of NOT-for-profit healthcare.
Sorry for your loss - I am glad though she was cared for (medically) without having to worry about costs or finances.
And the NHS is pretty good - however, American's can look at virtually any developed country for a better system than they have. The NHS focuses on lower costs and high quality, at the expense of speed; the French system is expensive (though not as expensive as the US's system) but has fast and high quality care. Every country has different focuses and ways of achieving universal coverage, but the US system seems to have the worst aspects of most other systems.
Canada has it's issues too. There are long wait times but if it's an emergency, you'll be looked after and I don't have to go bankrupt paying for the bill.
Thank you for sharing your story. Condolences doesn't seem nearly enough when someone has lost their child. You are in my prayers. ❤️💔❤️
When I was in the Army, my son had a serious injury, had to go to the ER. Military Healthcare pays 100%. I had *ZERO* concerns for cost just for his well being. This is the way it *should* be in the US.
Ironically TriCare Reserve Select also uses UHC.
@shootingbricks8554 ugh. I don't think it was like that before I retired. Privatization = corporate greed
Rich against the poor. Murica.
Let's not forget they made an example out of a mother saying "deny defend depose" over the phone.
I think everyone should end their call to these companies, no police force can handle to follow up that number.
They didn't. She threatened them. That's a crime. Try again
@@mariomario1462 she didn't threaten them and threats are sadly not a crime. That's what officers always tell to women that suffer stalking and harassment, they don't do anything until someone commits the crime.
@@Sam.1tolv well actually yes it was a crime which is why she's in jail. She threatened them as any reasonable person would understand it to be. You trying to glaze a murderer doesn't make it not a crime and unethical
@@Sam.1tolv do not waste time responding to this idiot, he keeps posting nonsense in defence of the criminal 'healthcare' system.
looks like they didn't learn their lesson
Level 2.
@@Paelmoon you first
Sometimes it takes two.
@@TeoGoYo Two thousand you say? I agree!
They might need to be reminded.
It’s basically legal murder. We’ve just become complacent to it.
Mr Luigi Mangione = Freedom fighter for fair healthcare.
I just got off the phone with an elderly lady whose insurance company ends TONIGHT their payment for her necessary stay at a rehab center. She has to either sell her piano -- she is a musician and composer -- in order to stay ONE more month, or go home where she desperately needs 24-hour care in order to live. We discussed the fact that the "American Dream" today is that white picket fence UNTIL you finally need healthcare as a senior citizen at which point, as an American, you are expected to sell everything you have in order to pay for healthcare. Once you are penniless and homeless, your American Dream in this country is to die on your own, in the gutter without a home or food. That has literally become the American Dream. Her story is not unique. I've witnessed many others -- people who lived their lives, as she did (full-time school teacher) working full time for a full career only to be bled into poverty, as a literal guarantee, by the healthcare system we now live with in America. That is now the American Dream.
I hope she doesn't have to sell her piano, I'm not sure if I can help in any way but I do hope she is able to continue getting the help she needs.
Sickening and disgusting
Deny defend depose
LMFAO! You ain't gonna do shit hiding behind your screen so stop talking like your some sort tough guy. Go sit down.
Dealive
Defy
Defeat
Destroy
Few weeks ago my wife was sick with a respiratory bug and we went to a Urgent Care. After waiting for an hour her turn came up and the office girl told her it was going to cost $280 for the visit. We were surprised by how much it was. We asked why so high and the girl said it’s what UHC contracted the price. At that moment I understood why the CEO was murdered. Such BS the cost of healthcare in this country.
Just to clarify, my wife’s insurance changed this past year and so was her first time using it. What was normally a $50 copay to $280 is bs.
They're not scared enough yet. Let's keep it going.
Eat the rich.
agreed
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson"
What alternative is there? Our "System" has shown time and time again that it isn't going to fix anything. The atrocities of the insurance industry is a product of the system I guess David thinks is somehow going to participate in fixing the problems it's designed to create.
@@Halloween111 The commentators sadly ultimately have to denounce it to keep the feds from knocking at their door
I’m Australian. If you go in to a public hospital emergency department and have surgery, it costs us nothing except any prescription medications on discharge, and they are normal price. My Dad got a pacemaker that saved his life, at no cost. We do pay in to universal healthcare through our taxes, relative to income. Do people like paying for it, not always, but lives are saved every day and that’s how a decent, civil society should work.
The meds are actually cheap.
You are correct
@@Lily-Loveberry Sounds the same as here in Canada!
Same in Finland. I have chronic issues and the only thing I have to pay for is my meds whenever my bottle empties. And it's like 30 bucks per bottle of 200 pills. I can't even begin to imagine how expensive that would be in USA money
@Batz-on-paws IN the UK, a lot of peopel are even exempt from paying for drugs. IN Scotland an Wales, nobody does. IN England the poorest don't pay, for prescriptions, the over 60s don't pay, diabetics don't pay, cancer patients don't either. Even if you do it's only about £9 a prescription.
My father who had an accident and became a quadriplegic who also had united for nearly 15 years and when he needed them, they denied and dropped him after a month, and shortly after being bounced around hospital to hospital he ended up in hospice where he passed away at 47.
This all happened in a span of 3 months after his accident, and before they dropped him he was making progress and as actually able to breathe and talk on his own.
I don’t have sympathy for that CEO, I do feel for his family, but not him or any other health insurance ceo shaking right now.
Im sorry for your father's struggle, and your loss.
btw his family were estranged from him, so they didnt feel much for him either
I worked in a children's icu for many years. I saw denied claims for children, who were sent hone to die. This has been going on for absolutely years. Time to wake up, and change the system!
I was scheduled for an mri. I went to see a primary care doctor in Anaheim hills named Jason. I went to get my knee checked out and the doctor grabbed my knee and twisted it making the injury far worst. His only solution was to say sorry he shouldn’t have done that and he can prescribe me pain meds 🤮. Pos American typical doctor. A few weeks later my insurance kicked me off which has never happened before. I hate the American healthcare system! Evil scumbags!
the 1st letter from UHC would have been written by an computer. Remember, Deny, Delay, Dispute...
How sad. If you had an appendectomy in Canada, you would pay $0 because we have our health care paid for through our taxes. 🇨🇦
Same in Australia 🇦🇺
@ maybe because we live in civilized countries 😃
Yes, and if something happened and they needed to do sudden, emergency other surgeries while the appendectomy is happening, you'd still pay zero, even if the net total is well over 50k in tests, blood, man hours, and machinery. As far as I know, I've never paid 50k in a single year's taxes, but the Canadian Govmt would spend that on me if needed. I'm fine with NEVER needing healthcare and STILL paying my share so someone else can benefit.
Canada? Australia? Even Botswana and Burkina Faso provide free healthcare. The USA are living in a backwards parallel reality.
@ yes I agree. My ex husband had a heart issue, underwent surgery and was in hospital about 10 days. $0 except for parking fees while visiting him. 😀
I’m Canadian and 5 years ago I almost lost my life. I was placed in a medically induced coma and was transferred to a larger city 90 miles away. I had suffered a pulmonary embolism. I had severe double pneumonia and that’s when they found a very large hole in my heart. It was touch and go everyday until I finally woke up. I couldn’t talk, walk, eat, drink etc and had to relearn it all. I was in the hospital for a month in the critical care ICU. 8 months later I had open heart surgery at the same hospital. I can’t imagine how much that would have cost me if I lived in the U.S. I really don’t know how I could have focused on my healing and recovery if I had all of those hospital bills. My heart aches for everyone who has experienced such unbelievable costs just to save their lives and then try to recover.
Yep, from Canberra Australia. Capitalism seems to outweigh humanism in the US.
Yes, we have a term for the stress caused financial stress due to medical cost-it is truly only a US phenomenon: "Financial Toxicity". Heavily studied and shaved at least 1-2 years off of cancer patients who do not have their care completely covered.
Easily a quarter million dollars, at the very least. In the US there is official paperwork to place your house as collateral for medical expenses.
There is a way to avoid paying everything as an American, but it would result in the inability to get financial loans, a nice place to live, and leasing quite literally anything:
throw away the bills 😂
Don't even worry about hospital bills, there are plenty of non profita who pay the bills, like, March of Dimes
As an academic historian with significant post-graduate work in American and European history, anyone who says that there isn’t historical precedent for violence to produce real and lasting change is actually telling you that they’re ignorant of the histories of France, America, China, Russia, Italy, and many many many other nations.
You don't really have to look that far: everyone knows how WWI began, right? Everyone knows why we have strict airport security?
damn straight! However, Murica is a country where its wealthy, famous industrialists call history 'bunk' and are lauded
Yes, the opening comments were ahistorical UA-cam proforma.
I've been struggling to think of an incident in US history where a brazen assassination on the sidewalk had such spontaneous support. Especially this support from both sides of the aisle.
Can you think of a comparable assassination or some such that _united_ the left and the right like this?
...even outside of the US nothing comes to my mind
@@hipsabadend of history 07
Court should release him.
A "not guilty verdict" would be a lot more official.
Here in Canada being in a coma costs you nothing.
In America it doesn’t cost you anything to “ be IN a coma” either. It just cost you to “ try” to get out of one ( if they don’t let you die first).
That makes so much more sense than here in the US!! I'm so tired of the US refusing to see what works in other countries.
@@tinalevesque5772 That's right, because healthcare is paid for by tax revenue collected from the public.
@@a.girouard2988 and the costs decline rapidly
Wouldn't they put you off the ventilator?
My doctor quit a few years ago, they were tired of having to spend so much time at the computer, trying to get patients health coverage to actually cover their treatments. 100% insanity.
Yes some of us do quit to soon. Single payer will fix this
Free Luigi, Jail UHC execs.
Agreed!
If you want society to be safe and prosperous, you have to jail them both.
@LightSoundGeometryFxI completely understand your frustrations but please, please for your sake delete your comment. I understand it's none of my business and Imo you said nothing wrong but legally it might be to your benefit to delete it.
@bobbun9630 I agree, jail both Trump and UHC execs.
@ no just the CEO’s!!!!!
I am an RN. I was scolded because I recommended sending a suicidal patient to a facility closer to her family in order to aid in a better transition. This would have delayed discharge which the “Case Managers” did not like. They sent the patient to a facility 3 hours from loved ones. This is just a minor incident. The health care system is broken.
A lesser-discussed aspect of this is just how much time doctors and nurses waste dealing with denials, we don't have enough professionals as it is, their time and ability are worth so much more.
Exactly, this is why your doctor only has 12 minutes to talk to you/examine you at appointments. Disgusting.
Our nurses in NZ would strike if they had to deal with insurance. That's not what they trained to do. The nurses union is one of our most powerful, along with the teachers union.
@ When I lived in Germany there was a brief period 2000s/10s where they tried implementing a small copay (10 bucks) so the insurance companies would get more money. It caused legit mental breakdowns for these poor doctors to have to suddenly have a register and nurses as cashiers. Many older ones, including mine, retired early bc it was too much. They did away with it but the threat always looms. Even when we get our healthcare for all, we'll have to defend it to keep it, greed knows no bounds with these billionaires.
hence why the hospital has an overpopulation of middle management to deal with insurance and the price climbs with it
This is why the “war of attrition” that covid 19 was, was ultimately lost before it began. We are bogged down with evil corpos screwing doctors over and over again and idiots denying covid back then no wonder so many quit the medical profession.
Despicable
David, I have been a nurse for 18yrs, and you did an excellent job explaining the ridiculous medical system and the charges! Many years ago before I became disabled I was a GI nurse for a liver and GI cancer specialist and spent most of my days fighting insurance companies tooth and nail. The games insurance played were disgusting (this was pre- Obama Care Act).
I appreciate that you mentioned that the bills are made higher at hospitals for private insurance patients due to non-paying, delinquent patients, as well as Medicaid and Medicare not reimbursing as well as private insurance. Thus when a private insurance patient arrives the hospital will charge MORE for the exact same items "because they can".
Imagine if the grocery store could do what hospitals do and charge different customers different prices for the same brand gallon of milk ranging from $2- $200 for one gallon? How is that a fair system? It is all sick on so many levels.
The worst is paying when you don't have insurance. I think a physical cost 300 dollars or something like that. I joked that was an expensive letter saying that everything was fine. It bothers me when people blame people without insurance when I always paid my medical bills immediately. Then, I started having to sit on them and wait for my insurance and doctor's office to finish fighting.
@@tracycraft in most places it is in fact cheaper to pay out of pocket as it is less then the deductible. sick people are taken advantage of but you can literally haggle the cost down as the listed price is the insured price which has the 10,000% mark up
Some weeks ago I was complaining to my friends about having to pay 55 euros for an important vaccine I needed, which is not entirely covered by my insurance. But then I watch American news, and I suddenly feel completely fine again by having to pay only 55 euros...
Yeah… I went to get bloodwork and my ear looked at and was charged $1700…and that’s with a discount.. 😢
America is all about profit. They don’t care about lives. That’s why they allow toxins in our food. They want us sick.
I'm British, and we look at America with disgust.
We have Joe Biden to Thank for the way we turned out.
No, the US itself. Doesnt matter if they are R or D. The US is a egocentric Society. The US is always cutting costs and it's all for profit. Except Nazi Israel
@@mikestock969Joe Biden is responsible for the way the entire history of America has played out? Wow, that’s an interesting take there buddy.
You know that you can disagree with political policies without sounding like a completely out of your mind weirdo? No one is out to get you, make you live a life you don’t want to live, and we can compromise on policies, but that requires logical and levelheaded thinking - not whatever your comment was.
Bots are often used to hack old yt accounts and use them to spew decenting points of view.@bumblingbe
We look at the world the British screwed over well into the 20th Century , from slavery in the US to Iran, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, India, China with disgust as well.
If that comatose patient wants healthcare, she should go get a job!
Deny Defend Depose.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm sure her insurance ended when she didn't pay cobra to keep it.
ikr?
IF she doesn't qualify for healthcare insurance payout,who does?
no point in health insurance if they don't pay out
BINGO! @@PaulRumbold-wk5re
UnitedHealthcare should be criminally charged. They are murdering people for profit. No wonder Luigi went on revenge.
I'm in Canada, never had a claim denied. Never paid a dime in healthcare costs, no monthly premiums, no copay, no deductable, never saw a doctors bill. universal healthcare works. why, because its simply the right thing to do.
I wish more people here in the US would realize this!!!
@@jinglejazz7537 No, you DO pay for healthcare in Canada. Everyone does, through tax revenue. Healthcare in Canada isn't free-the citzens collectively pay for it. The only difference is the mechanism in how it is paid for. Remember that.
@@a.girouard2988 Not the only difference. The BIGGEST difference is that there are no parasites sucking massive profits out of it, so it costs less for everyone.
@@a.girouard2988 Sure. But here's the difference. I make minimum wage, and struggle to pay my daily bills. But I pay my taxes. And when (not if), I fall sick or get injured, I go to the hospital. And they help me. And I pay nothing at that moment (or next to nothing)
In the States I can be in the exact same situation but when I need medical care I end up paying tens of thousands of dollars to be treated. Which I just don't have. Worse, I've been paying into medical insurance so that when I got sick or injured someone would cover my bill for me. And then they just refuse to cover it, meaning I'm even worse off because I spent all that money for insurance that is refusing to do what I paid for it.
Basically poor, elderly, and vulnerable people can be sick in Canada without it being ruinous to their lives. In the States it can be a flat out death sentence.
@@a.girouard2988 read my email. I know we pay through taxes. however I never have to pay when I go to hospital, doctor, have surgery, ambulance rides. meds are covered 100%. However what I pay in taxes is a whole lot less than what americans pay. Peace of mind.
UHC denied me open heart surgery at the hospital 5 minutes from home forced a transfer to a different hospital then denied both hospital claims and ambulance bills. Make it make sense.
Having to pay for an ambulance is diabolical, I used to think this was a myth about the US.
@elxarrallke out of network and deductible not fully paid. Absolute BS
@@elxarrallke Nah m8. Stop blaming the medical professionals. That's smoke and mirrors from the real culprits: The for profit health care companies. Yes some doctors are greedy. Big deal. Most do an awesome job with the scraps they are giving paying off their USD600000+ educational debt.
When Healthcare involved shareholders thats the problem period......anything else is a by product
The Tylenol charge is true. I had a nurse deny me Tylenol in front of her supervisor, only to return later with one from her purse. She said she did this all the time because she was ashamed of their charging practices. It was just a Tylenol but I think she is a quiet hero.
That's madness. A black market for over the counter medication.
They will charge you $40 for an aspirin. And when you get one every 6 hours they charge you each time.
That’s kind but she could lose her licence for that. SMH.
@@terrymckenzie8786 Seriously?!
@loiscassels8966 If that happened someone would need to turn on the Luigi signal.
This is why we aren't mad at Luigi.
While I don't agree with murder I am not exactly upset either. He's the ONLY reason our healthcare system is in the headlines right now. I have yet to share any of my feelings about this whole situation. We need universal health care.
@@marciarobertson7618here here!
you should be, you americans are utterly pathetic, beyond pathetic the fact you arent upset that a man was MURDERED leaving a wife and kids behind is disgusting, you guys dont deserve universal healthcare if youre this grotesque. You have nothing in common with us europeans, we give affordable healthcare for all because its morally right, not because some pathetic child murdered someone.
💯
You should be grateful. Period.
I’m in the UK, how are you supposed to heal and recover when you have this medical debt breathing down your neck?!
Even with tory underfunding and wrecking of the NHS for 14 years ( to please their US donors, some of which are 'healthcare' companies) having our NHS means we live longer in the UK than they do in the US. We need to get behind the current plans to rebuild it again. It's infuriating that Labour always come in, fix it (with the support and hard work of those working in the NHS), then the tories come in and trash it. Voters (including NHS workers) never learn and just vote tory again when it's fixed.
@@alisonwilson9749I agree 100%, I’m actually a kiwi who lived in Canada for 17 years before coming to Scotland.
The nhs, (even stripped as it has become) is the best system that I’ve experienced.
Perhaps the New Zealand midwifery, pregnancy care and early start programs are preferable to what I’ve seen in the UK.
But other than that the nhs absolutely needs to be protected and restored.
I live in Australia, we have national healthcare (which the conservative party constantly attacks and undermines). September 2024 I had major abdominal surgery. The total cost for that, including five days in a private hospital and all care was AU$1000 (which was the surgeon's fee - everything else was free). Had it been emergency surgery or had I gone for a public hospital the cost would have been zero. This is what socialised medicine looks like. It isn't "communism", it's civilisation. Fight for a proper healthcare system.
I had a similar experience, I fell from my bicycle, broke a hip. Free ambulance ride to ED, free xrays, free surgery (hip replacement), free anaesthetic, free ward stay. This is what a civilised country does.
Insurance IS socialized medicine, that's the problem.
Saffer here who similarly enjoys free national healthcare from the safety and comfort of the third world. You'll have a hard time getting the Americans to let go of their ingrained (inbred?) sound-alike knee-jerk whenever they encounter a word or phrase starting with social.
@@DavidLucas-zq8gb No it isn't, it's a privatized for-profit scheme that doesn't load balance shared risk amongst its members, it load balances its moral hazard (look it up) on external actors to the detriment of the members who actually foot the bill.
There is NOTHING WRONG with the "C word". We don't need to adhere to McCarthyism.
God forbid you're a senior citizen in our country and find yourself sick in the hospital. Our healthcare companies would rather you die than accept your claim.
Thank God I'm not with United Healthcare.
They are private business: not charities. Just go to a church hospital if you need medical care and in need of charity
They are a private business that rips people off. If you pay for a service, it needs to be provided. Particularly when it involves peoples lives. In other words, Its bad to choose greed over lives. That is bad. @russellmiles2861
@@russellmiles2861 Did you spawn out of the pits of hell? People pay for this coverage a*"*****.
Or take your home and all you own!
And this is exactly why Luigi needs to either be pardoned, or the jury needs to nullify his verdict.
Trump will never parson him, nor any president. Gotta go for that nullification.
Hell no
I’m 65. A Canadian. I would have been dead 6 years ago. Thank you 🇨🇦
It's sickening what's going on other countries are so ahead of us in so many aspects and we're supposed to be the leader of the free world but don't have universal healthcare is wild
Preach!! I say this ALL the time.
The almighty dollar is all that matters in this garbage country.
What's stopping you from leaving?
Leader of the free world? As an Aussie in Europe I gotta say that is something Americans tell themselves, none of us think that about you guys - having said that many of us are horrified at how bad these insurance companies treat your people and it makes me so angry good honest people have such a difficult time getting the Care they need in your country. Solidarity my friends!
@@peterbills4129 What's stopping YOU? The ones that tell others to leave are the very ones that should!
If Peaceful Protests don't work then WHAT will? Answer that...
It is beyond protest and voting at this time
Didn't the lovely and vivacious MTG say "The 2A is in place to fight tyranny." She was actually right for once, but not about what tyranny really is.
This is exactly what your second amendment is for.
@@lisasteel6817 The 2A protects you from the government -- not private corporations. Now, they are the same thing, but the laws haven't changed accordingly.
@ yes
I have been a type 1 diabetic since 1994 (30 years) and more than once I have received letters from my health insurance company (different ones over the year) telling me that my insulin pump is NOT medically necessary. I was dumbfounded. My doctor prescribed it. Not my pcp, my endocrinologist. I appealed it each time and got the pump. But these devices are only good for 5 years then you have to get another one (unless it is a disposable pump like Omnipod). So this fight is not a one time fight. And pumps are around $5000, not counting the supplies that go with them. As a diabetic, i am tired of fighting every time I need supplies and even with insurance, it is very expensive. I am 52 years old and this fight will continue until I die. And I am not alone. This is unacceptable.
Crikey the amount of stress that must be causing you! It can not be doing your health any good at all.
My stay in the hospital for 2 days was 15k a day for the room. This did not include my gall bladder surgery not a single penny. The room, a cheeseburger, fries, 2 bags of saline, and no pain meds was 15k a day.
Insurance companies are practicing medicine without a license every time they deem what is and what is not is a necessity. They should be sued for malpractice.
I'm an inpatient RN, and a vocal critic of our despicable, for-profit healthcare system. I did medical insurance billing prior to becoming a nurse for psychiatric providers. I once saw an insurer approve 20 additional mental health visits for a patient who desperately needed them only to revoke them after the patient used them. The doctor appealed TWICE (I personally handled it) but the pathetic excuse given after 2 appeals was "We never should have approved them under his particular policy." An already fragile patient then had to be billed for 20 visits at the provider's rate, and even 20+ years ago, that was well over 2 grand. I've watched people die slowly because they can't afford medications, food, and clean spaces to live at once. This is WRONG, full-stop. We have bastardized healthcare into a money-making system that further enriches already rich people. It can't be for-profit and patient-centered.
I thought practicing medicine without a license was illegal.
Apparently not. The Republicans have been doing it since Roe v Wade was overturned.
Driving without a license is illegal, unless your name is Jaun!!!
Insurance companies don’t practice medicine. They are a payment company in essence. Just because they deny coverage for something doesn’t mean that you cannot ultimately get medical care if you were willing to pay for it.
Of course most won’t and I wouldn’t blame them.
@@purelogarithm It's not so much about being "willing." A huge percentage of Americans can't afford a $400 emergency. A lot of them are willing to lose their homes and accumulate a lot of debt to stay alive, but many don't have that option, and anyway that's a very bad option, and it doesn't need to be the only choice. All the other developed nations use their taxes for delivering healthcare, because it's MUCH CHEAPER for everyone this way. Turns out choosing to let people lose their homes and jobs is actually really bad for the economy.
@bigdaddystovepipe People vote so Juan and Juanita cannot get a license or medical care because of Ignorance and prejudice of some American people.Meanwhile Juan and Juanita is paying taxes and social security he can never collect
Its not the Immigrants breaking us. It's the billionaires.
First thing they ask for when going to the doctor or hospital is your insurance, your SS number and many other questions regarding your ability to pay the bill(s). Meanwhile you're dying and suffering...
They should take care of the patient first, then worry about the payment...
Things used to be worse, believe it or not. My grandfather was removed from his hospital bed once they found out he had no money to pay for the treatment.
Yup and you often have to pay an additional co pay before you can even see the doctor. My brother has to pay $100 in addition to his insurance before they let him see his doctor.
The POLITICIANS are the enablers. BOTH parties!! The American people should hold politicians accountable for accepting blood money.
Exactly. It’s all about the corrupt political system that Americans don’t have universal health care. These huge companies lobby (bribe} the politicians to ensure their complicity in this outrageous system. Wake up USA. It’s great out here in the true democratic countries.
We need Mario Mangione now.
😂 your comment & pic omg
@@6361kris He killed bowser, get over it
@@6361kris "More than 26 000 Americans die each year because of lack of health insurance"...this is the title of a scientific paper on pubmed
What's worse?
No. Vigilante justice is not justice. We need journalists to get out of their stupid rich people/good health insurance bubble and understand what America is like for regular citizens. We need to use our words, like grown-ups. Lots of words.
@@Sarcasticronif those words fail will we keep using words until maybe somehow they might consider listening to a few of those words?
Not the strongly worded letter! That's going too far!
I recently had major surgery. The hospitals are now discharging patients the same day, or the next day.
This is why Luigi is the people's hero.
#FixThisBrokenSystem
He is making the issue worst.
@@1987BillyBob how??
@@1987BillyBob😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 K
@@1987BillyBob Hard disagree, David and we wouldn't be talking about these monsters if not for Luigi.
@1987BillyBob He brought the justice the authorities could never be bothered to bring themselves
I am an individual medical insurance agent that does NOT work for ANY carrier (I work for an agency). I've been in this field for about 40 years. I work/am licensed in WA state. I don't just help people pick their plans, I help them understand them. I've been through the 'pre ObamaCare' as well as now (I'm 60 years old atm). I've helped thousands of people 'navigate the horrors of healthcare' for this reason. I've also had dozens and dozens of conversations with clients that say they wish we had single payor/medicare for all etc and I tell them SO DO I! Some have said "wouldn't that put you out of a job?". YES - and likely put me out of a career and I AM TOTALLY ok with that, I would welcome it!. I mean every word of it too. I've seen it help people (ObamaCare with subsidy mostly) and I've cried with people trying to figure out how to pay or deal with denials, push backs etc from the carrier/insurance companies. I tell them I am in this field because soooo many people struggle with insurance and I help them navigate it. I have said 'I can't change rules or laws but I can damn sure help you learn to jump through their hoops'. ObamaCare did some much needed things but it is still a very broken system. I help my clients with appeals and go over bills and EOBs with them. We need single payor and we need it like decades ago.
And you laugh all the way to the bank too😂😂
@@DONUT2858 Not even close. I don't work for any insurance company and my service is FREE to clients so... just trying to help them navigate the craziness. wow....
Make it illegal to deny coverage if it directly leads to the patients death
People always say that they don't want a politician between them and healthcare.
My question to them is then "you prefer to have prefer to have a CEO in between you and your healtcare, whose entire job is to deny care so they have more money for them?
UHC didn't learn their lesson
Why would they, when they have politicians like Adams and Tisch on their side -- we all know what they are doing to Luigi
$743/month premium plus endless copays just to beg insurance companies for 'medical necessity' approval? As an outsider, it's mind-boggling that one of the world's richest nations lets profit-driven companies play god with people's lives. While the state-by-state solution makes sense given the political gridlock, it's heartbreaking that Americans have to wait years for what most developed countries consider a basic human right. The system isn't just broken - it's morally bankrupt. 😐
I was scheduled for an mri. I went to see a primary care doctor in Anaheim hills named Jason. I went to get my knee checked out and the doctor grabbed my knee and twisted it making the injury far worst. His only solution was to say sorry he shouldn’t have done that and he can prescribe me pain meds 🤮. Pos American typical doctor. A few weeks later my insurance kicked me off which has never happened before. I hate the American healthcare system! Evil scumbags!
Why does anyone buy it just to get denied everyone should stop buying it
This is shocking. The medical treatment was necessary to keep the patient from dying. Can't get anymore necessary than that!
@@elxarrallke Unfortunately the practitioner's own limb-sparing surgery claims got denied by United Healthcare after being diagnosed with a very painful chondrosarcoma.
How do we fight the legalized corruption that exists with healthcare and pharmacy companies legally, through lobbyists, paying off senators and congress to keep everything the way it is?
As someone from the UK, this is shocking to me. I will never understand why America has ended up with a health system which puts profit before people. I am so grateful I live in a country where we have universal healthcare (NHS) 🙏 . I've been to hospital several times, including the use of an ambulance, and never had to worry about how much it will cost and can I afford it.
There are several things here. One, the US leads the world in access and outcomes in advanced care. Two, you don't have a large group of illegals plugging up your system like we do.
can you convince your government to maybe take us back? Let by gones be by gones?
Because the billionaires sell it to Americans that in order for them to have it, they have to pay way more in taxes. People who are healthy get pissed and say I’m not paying so and so’s healthcare. They say countries that cover it via taxes have majority of their paychecks taken with horrific taxes and long wait times. A lot of Americans believe this BS because they have never traveled outside USA or met anyone foreign that they trust as foreigners are demonized to keep the masses dumb.
RISE UP AMERICA.
My daughter-in-law was in hospital for 6 weeks as she was a high-risk pregnancy. My granddaughter was born 9 weeks early and spent two months in the NICU and was only home for 3 weeks when she was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of leukemia. She was in hospital for 9 months in a room where her parents were able to live with her. She died just after her first birthday. There was no bill for her parents as the cost of all the care was zero. Why? Canada has national health care and as imperfect as it presently is, Canadians never go bankrupt or do without medical care because of money.
And Trump thinks we'd become a state. Sorry for your
It should be the same here in the USA too. I don’t see a need for health insurance companies.
Was she at sick kids? I used to work there and met so many parents in that situation (in a research capacity), and people just talk to me for some reason. It was always so heartbreaking to hear these stories. I can't imagine parents having to deal with insurance while going through this.
So I'm genuinely asking. Idk if this is just propaganda or what but I've been told people in Canada when they try and get medical care are sometimes having to wait far too long. I'm just wondering how true that is.
@@breezybee777 If something *needs* to happen immediately, it does- full stop. There are problems with long waits if something isn't urgent, but pretty much every post I've seen about it is either greatly exaggerated, or people don't understand how bad waits for specialist can be in the states as well. It can be a very long time to see a specialist, and that can have a negative impact on your quality of life of course- but only when there isn't any reasonable possibility of danger to you.
Also, there can be issues if you live in really remote regions getting access, but there are docs and nurses who's entire job is to travel to those areas to help serve them (and they have telemedicine access as well). My province will even pay for your travel and lodging (within reason) if you need to travel to a city to see a specialist.
When you hear about people going to states for quicker care, it's *usually* just impatience.
Canada 🇨🇦 is sad for your healthcare system.😢
Depose billionaires. Deny big stores your money.
*dispose of
Healthcare NOW! Single payer NOW!
Universal Healthcare!!
I don't support violence, nor do I support greed. Because this is what it is, greed.
Makes me so angry!