@@paperstacks8353 That was their business. He should've handle it behind the scene instead of using his Twitter fingers. Ppl don't even know how to communicate face to face to their partner anymore
Welp… when Usher attempted to serenade Winnie Harlow she denied him due to being in a relationship with Kyle Kuzma; going so far as to sit in his lap. She understood the assignment. To pretend that Keke wasn’t out of bound is wild. However, I wouldn’t have aired her out publicly.
They get mad when you hold the door for a women, tip the waiter, let a women over in traffic. The mental gymnastics of women is old a tired. Focus on yourself young men.
Listening to analysis from these grown people is amazing. This is how stupid we have become. No limits , just plain stupid There are limits in relationships if you actually care for your partner.
You have to realize you’re listening to people that have zero aspirations to be in a seriously commuted relationship…. These folks just wanna fuck and lay up. Don’t get relationship advice from these types of people. 😂
He should've told kiki before she left the house......you don't let your woman leave the house with her butt completely out. He isn't a man, if he was she wouldn't have done that. Men are weak now
Women who defend this and see him as insecure, need to go all they way up the "secure" scale and view Adam 22 letting his wife do what she did as the benchmark for being secure in the relationship. . .( Meaning, really, yall just wanna do whatever the hell yall wanna do)
Ngl bro if I was in that same situation with SZA then I'm sorry, I should have some leeway. Same shit with her too tho, that's why is important to communicate on shit like that.
I think the conparison to the Chance situation is valid. Both actions are hella inappropiate in a vacuum, but I think context should give them some leeway. Chance was at a caribbean carnival where dancing like that is commonplace and seen as normal while Keke was being sung to by one of the most legendary R&B artists ever and probably someone she grew up loving. If you disagree then you should disagree with both and viceversa, you can't be cool with one and not cool with the other.
Egggxactly, each person just caught up in the moment of the circumstance. And her outfit wasn't too much at all. To Mel's point, they were in Vegas! I've seen women in stripper attire getting walked with a dog leash casually walking the strip. The dress code in vegas is outlandish, keke's fit was normal club attire
I'm tired of all of these terms to shame Men whenever we want women to respect boundaries like they do with us. "Policing a woman's body". GTFOH. If Men start walking around with our meat print showing, all of that "policing someone's body" will go out of the window.
Both genders are doing this bs if it’s not in their favor mtfs come up with reason why things are ok and shouldn’t be a boundary are we literally forgetting man we’re just trying to convince with me cheating wasn’t a big of a deal, and they should accept it and forgive
That's ridiculous too tho bro. I think policing your partner's outfits just reeks of insecurity unless they hella foul. Men shouldn't be able to tell women to not wear a sexy dress just like women shouldn't be able to tell men that they can't wear grey sweatpants or some shit.
@@ptyten9718I agree bro. It really wasn't about her outfit it was because tht nxgga usher was serenading her while she had tht outfit on😂😂😂we know what tht was. Nxggas get more done to us at a $trip club than he did with Keke...I wouldn't be trippin
He wack for taking it to the internet. But if we being real every woman would of lost their minds if the shoe was on the other foot. They was all on JT side after she publicly abused Uzi. We can’t even like a picture on instagram without getting chopped up.
A lot of y’all don’t want a good man. Y’all want a trick or a simp!! Y’all want a yes man. A man whose only purpose is to serve you and not himself or goals!! Y’all couldn’t handle a “real good man.” Y’all can’t handle a man correcting you. or calling you out on yo bs and habits and holding you accountable. Y’all want a sponsor. A real man is going to lead and not be led. A real man isn’t going to allow you to have those same habits you been having. A real man is going to stand up for himself and know his worth. A lot of y’all definitions of a good man is a man that y’all can control.
That boy was 100% intimidated that the person she danced with was Usher. She has shown her body before and he has hyped it up lol. Anyways he just shouldn’t have attracted all of the internet’s projection to her footstep. So many people were projecting their simple relationship issues to a specific entertainment situation they will never experience with Usher.
Even if he was intimidated he should be able to express how he feels. The public shit ain't cool but we've seemed to have adopted this " if the offense is done in public, then the outrage can be public as well" mentality and this applies to that. Chance the Rapper's wife did the exact same thing to Chance and she received no backlash. Let's be as loud no matter the gender.
@@sin2tymes65 Personally thought she overreacted over a dance but they’re married so it’s different and Chance has cheated so the trust was already shaky. I guess it’s just subjective
It’s because he really loves her he said something. He wants to have a respectable relationship. She can show her curves out all night long . He proud. But to go on stage grinning and laughing at some guy and then turn around and show the world you wearing a thong in public; that is not his vibe. Ice T might have been cool with it and his wife. But Darius is a different person and Keke knows that. They have not been together just like that. They have been together for a bit (before she publicly stated she was pregnant).
Relationships should have boundaries, she knows what he like and don’t like. So he has to right to say what he want cause she has the right to dress that way she want.
@@Okkotsu86275Yeah these dudes simping on the net this bit just showed her cakes to the world Publicly and caressed a dude on national tv my boys would not let me live it down neither would my mind.
@@thekingsson1757 Correct, dude was in a lose lose situation regardless of how he responded. I personally didn’t see anything wrong with what he said. But apparently I’m not a “real man “ so what do I know 🤣🤣 Joe and them are kind of wack for their takes. And Mel is super wack.
Policing what men wear is hella stupid too tho. I seen all these convos about how we can't wear grey sweatpants and I think that reeks of insecurity. Some women are gonna be attracted to us just like some men are gonna be attracted to our girl, that's part of life.
I couldn't have said it better I would think the point of dating is to be in a forever relationship or married at the end.....Lets be honest no man is going to be ok with their women doing this. Especially when you speak to her about it and her response is dont be insecure ill do what I want to do. That woman is going to be single and stay single the rest of her life. People not talking about Saweetie who was there who whole persona and music career is all about get money, use ninjas and keep it pushing. she dating YG now she knew she better not do anything suspect with Usher or its going to be an issue. So I dont want to hear oh it was harmless because there are plenty of women who knew how they actions were going to off looking.
😂😂 This argument is for entertainers in relationships!! If you arguing with ya chick that work down at the hospital about a dress like that, you already lost bro-bro.. she for the streets
This the era where women don’t wanna be held accountable & think they can do anything they want with no consequence, bottom line the dude has standards, the only thing he did wrong was go on social media about it like a female
notice since not a celebrity he has no voice about his family ,that why women cant lead relationships they disrespect the man all round ,but expect him to take it and keep it moving
The thing is... if the situation was reversed.... The internet would've dude 100x over.... while lifting Keke to God tier "you a queen and deserve better" status...smh
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😂 and Keke's not worried about men nor women shaming her because she's not a shame. Stop being biased and one sided..... TOP SHAMING TACTICS BY WOMEN 😂🤣🤦. You funny because those lines can and have been used by men as well.
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@@QueenSuga405and why is that? Why do women feel like they can tell men what a man is? This ain’t woman behavior it’s hoe behavior! If that’s the case! Ya laughing at him while the world constantly laughing at us! Straight up embarrassing! Out of all his concerts her hot ass did the most!
What she did at that concert was like playing a role in a movie it wasn't this much uproar when Beyonce gave Terrance a lap dance. It was for entertainment
I'm seeing a lot about Darius approaching it wrong. Keke is the one that posted that ish first, making it free game. Ef taking an L for the sake of it.
It definitely wasn't about the dress. He probably doesn't say anything if she was merely shown in the dress minding her own business. It was the salivating and body language hugging up on another dude that's the problem. She punked that dude in front of the world with all that.
@@rehn4529 I’m married mam I’m speaking from experience…People push the envelope in most relationships to see how far they can go… He should have spoken up like a real Man would before she left out of the house… He sounds like a beta male…. Fix your life
For the sake of the argument let's say roles where reversed and Keke's BD was at a Cardi B and Meg concert and they brought a chair up and Keke's BD was danced basically "serenaded" to WAP. Y'all don't think Keke would be pressed. IMO it's not so much as a man trying to control a woman and what she can't or can do but the BD in a really bad way told the world " I'm disappointed my PARTNER chose to put themselves in a situation that looks bad or can lead others to misinterpret how our relationship is" Serenades are typically between a man and his lover at night or serenading can be seen a romantic gesture. If you are thinking that the BD should have passed up going on stage while thinking Keke is okay because it's Usher..... You are part of the problem.
On one end of the spectrum Adam22 is getting clowned for transcending his jealousy and letting his wife get piped by another man (she does porn, but so does he). At the other end Keke Palmer's partner is getting clowned for expressing his jealousy at another man (Usher) serenading his wife in skimpy clothes. NUANCE? Jealousy is a natural, biological response. You don’t have to act on it or express that jealousy but you’ll probably feel it. Adam admitted feeling jealous but he lived with it (he does porn, she does porn, they have an agreement.) He's in public so he's gonna get clowned but he did nothing morally WRONG. Maybe he did something wrong to his spirit but that’s for him to decide, in my opinion they upheld their agreement and maintained honesty in their relationship. Could I do it. Probably but I usually prefer monogamy. I’ve been in open relationships in the past and as I say I think jealousy is unavoidable for most but you do not have to act on it. Ethical non-monogamy has a multitude of ways it can manifest and could make sense in various situations with different personalities. Keke's partner should have said something in PRIVATE BEFORE she left the house… ...not something in public after. Publicly shaming was wrong imho. So it's not wrong to feel jealous, it's natural. If you and your partner are honest with each other and respect agreed boundaries it's cool. If you don't set boundaries it's on you to improve communication... But ultimately I SHOULDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS SHIT. I only know because they became podcast topics for two weeks. I don't care about celebrities but I do care about the dating environment and the assumptions or expectations a partner may have in the future. So let's talk among ourselves to have reasonable expectations.
@@kevthepoet Naw you good, the double standards of society is crazy. Knowing damn well if the tables were turn people would be killing the dude. Homie was in lose lose situation no matter how he responded, like you said about Adam22.
Exactly! All the women were overwhelmingly in favor of Keke showing her butt cheeks to the world and loving the moment. But since it’s a man objecting there’s going to be heavy criticism to shut him down.
15:26 man HELL NAWL. You are a mom, ppl like Keke cause of her image. Folks seen her as a classy, mature, black queen. Which is hard to do in hollywood but she did it up until now. She the acting Janielle Monet now
Keke is a Sister Activist. She has always shared her highs & lows; skin, career, body. She’s been a hostess & completed interviews. She is an entertainer 🎉
Bruh. I usually love hearing from Mel but Joe takes up so much space, it’s overwhelming lol. Love Joe but chillll. Let these awesome additions to the podcast say their piece 😭
I get womens rights...I am a woman but she the only woman I've ever seen pop out a baby then never stay home, start going out dressing more naked than ever then be all up rubbing on another man in front of the world while ur man at home watching on TV. I would never disrespect my husband or a boyfriend like that...same as I wouldn't appreciate him doing it to me. Like go learn ya son chile! These days are precious.
Come to Baltimore (really don’t come, but you get the point). Watch how Chrisean Rock show out when she drop that baby. These “celebrities” are nothing but the ghetto chicks with more resources to act ghetto.
2:20 Smh mothers aren't allowed to be an adult? She has a life that she can't lose just because she is a mother. Same for fathers or any guardian. Its up to that that individual to pick where they chose to hang out or do when they spend time away from their children.
@@mayeezy254 Excuse the way I explain. I had edited the statement and added a question mark. After that question mark hopefully i explain myself better.
Keke wasn't the first woman to get serenaded by Usher at his Vegas residency show. Him serenading women IS PART OF THE ACT, just like the guys on the Pod wanna compare to Janets show. It's the same thing. Second of all, Ive seen usher serenade young, Old and even grandmas at his show in Vegas, some with their spouse present. He even kisses them as well. Keke's BOYFRIEND is just a BOYFRIEND. You can't expect WIFELY commitments from a GIRLFRIEND. You can't expect a girlfriend to wash, cook and clean and you haven't committed to them to be or is married. Thirdly, she's an entertainer is who is wearing a DESIGNER dress in which SHE is an ambassador for, so her wearing, twirling in the dress, however you find it inappropriate it, is promotion. It's her job. Which pays her bills and feeds her child. Good day!
Maybe only me, but if my husband doesn’t feel comfortable me wearing some clothes I’m not wearing it…he should’ve called her and not post it though lol
when she said she didnt see a problem with what she wore and that he shouldn't "police womens bodies" i just rolled tf out of my eyes....they make excuses all day for their wickedness but will crucify a men if he did the same smh
@@TopFlightSecurity415 of course! I also noticed a whole panel of men who had no problem calling buddy out on what he did wrong but as soon as it’s on the other foot now she passionate! Smh
Ok I appreciate the way y’all “Men” handled that. Mellissa was trying to get us to just be ok with woman doing what they wanna do while in a relationship and compare it to men. We are not the same.
Keke Palmer is fine fine, and she didn't do anything wrong. If that's how he felt he should have waited till she got home to say something. Now if it was not about the outfit, and it was really about Usher Raymond he should have kept it playa. 🤐🤫
Yall do not know these people "Thats why shes not married" And thats why youre in the comments section speaking on people you dont know... Relax, go pay your bills 😂😂😂
I don’t care about her being a mother. It was disrespectful. He was disrespectful to the dude that she was with. She has no history of this. Jennifer Lopez had a history of this before she got married and had children. This woman didn’t have a history of this and so it’s really disrespectful. Never mind with money she has. We get this straight, after this if it happens again, I’m done. I’m not putting up with any shit like this that’s for gotdamn sure.
Nobody cares about men having standards and preferences for their women... He was wrong for using a public forum to try to correct her behavior. He has her number, I'm sure - she IS a mother, HIS child's mother, and he should have had more respect for her than to try to publically chastise her to get public support in his beliefs. We shouldn't know his preference for her in their relationship. It was childish behavior
Idk if it’s the presence of the woman or what, but this podcast has been overly cautious and sensitive whenever topics like this come up. Joe used to be the dude that speaks freely, now he’s mr. “I’m not gonna police womens bodies”. Is this him changing, or is he just putting up a front? I can’t even tell anymore.
I think it was the "you a mom" comment that rubbed a lot of women the wrong way, but other than that he was well within his right to feel a way. I don't think he's necessarily wrong for publicly calling out her behavior because the behavior she displayed was a lil too much and it was ALSO public. Saweetie didnt do the most and neither did Winnie Harlow who was there with HER MAN. There's nothing wrong with having a good time but she was doing too much all up on him and she definitely showed him her butt lol
@@Smartkid2387exactly he's posted pictures of her ass on his socials for his own clout, talking about having my baby gave my girl a fat ass. Posting pictures of her in bathing suits and shit lol nows he's mad at the outfit SMH he's so insecure and lame
Remember when Keke face use to look like the walking dead? That Ninja was with her back then. So the fact that because her face cleared up she thinks she bad. Homie need to leave now
She never wanted him, just wanted to have a baby. I’ve got chicks who I dodged who had babies by other men who still chase me to this day. Told one of ‘em straight up, I feel sorry for your baby daddy. I’m not stupid, the games she plays will get me and her killed, yo not even like that but dudes will catch their first body over a manipulative female.
*Keke said he saw the outfit and slapped her booty. His issue was the actions. Keke can wear what she wants but that dress did come with a short dress under it, she chose to wear a thong bodysuit.*
Meanwhile she online reposting and on Live showing her making faces like 😮and drooling all over another man lol for her whole fanbase to see. Including him.
This is such a stupid take. Who cares if the man is a nobody, and won’t get another woman on the career level of keke. She disrespected him in public. Period. My God, This world is so damn back wards right now.
Keke & Usher have been friends for years. Theygo way back cause they`re in the SAME INDUSTRY! it`s hard for a normie like her ex (in this case) to understand those relationships... yes she fangirls over Usher and had a good time but thats it, basically. Usher is like a One Man Chippendales Show & the ex fell for the trap.
Where he fucked up at is airing his feelings out on social media,the salt in those posts makes me thinks he told social media before even speaking to her about it.
What's crazy about this is all the goal post shifting! If a married man with a kid was getting serenated by another woman like this, that woman would be pissed and all women online would also be pissed! She should have been a responsible woman and turned down the offer! Also do better Melissa! No husband minds. Their woman wanting to feel sexy and be perceived as being sexy to outward people. But this is definitely crossing the line! If my girl knows this is wrong then the rest of y'all need to do better! But maybe that's why my girl is married and going to stay married😂!
The only thing that I can say he messed up on was include the world by tweeting an in-house conversation between a couple.
Facts, Beyonce danced on terrance Howard and you never seen her do it again. These new niggas don't know how to handle things behind close doors.
Did she have that same courtesy for him?
@@paperstacks8353 That was their business. He should've handle it behind the scene instead of using his Twitter fingers. Ppl don't even know how to communicate face to face to their partner anymore
@@AngeBiampandouPublic disrespect calls for public shaming. I'm tired of y'all trying to put this on that man
@@AngeBiampandou I agree, but she was way out of line. If the roles were reversed, everyone would’ve called him a 🤡. You don’t think she was extra?
Welp… when Usher attempted to serenade Winnie Harlow she denied him due to being in a relationship with Kyle Kuzma; going so far as to sit in his lap. She understood the assignment. To pretend that Keke wasn’t out of bound is wild. However, I wouldn’t have aired her out publicly.
If you’re not allow to have boundaries because you’re the bread winner then you shouldn’t be in that relationship 🤷🏽♂️
If you not allowed to have Boundaries period
*You're not
Them therapy buzzwords got some of ya'll brains fried. Not every boundary is reasonable and mad of them are just insecurities disguised as boundaries.
@@ptyten9718It's subjective. You don't get to tell someone what's a boundary or insecurity
@@ptyten9718I bet 100k you’re a women. Every time a man has a boundary he has to be insecure. Why?
“that concert was giving her life” 😂🤣😂🤣
All the women calling him insecure get mad when they dude likes another girls IG post
They get mad when you hold the door for a women, tip the waiter, let a women over in traffic. The mental gymnastics of women is old a tired. Focus on yourself young men.
Women are walking balls of insecurity. Let a guy show some insecurity and he gotta be called a bitch ass nigga and all kinds of stuff.
Listening to analysis from these grown people is amazing.
This is how stupid we have become.
No limits , just plain stupid
There are limits in relationships if you actually care for your partner.
You have to realize you’re listening to people that have zero aspirations to be in a seriously commuted relationship…. These folks just wanna fuck and lay up. Don’t get relationship advice from these types of people. 😂
Right !!! It’s so stupid joe just scared of being cancelled so they’re trying to be politically correct. It’s embarrassing.
Joe dates mostly th0ts...let that sink in
He should've told kiki before she left the house......you don't let your woman leave the house with her butt completely out. He isn't a man, if he was she wouldn't have done that. Men are weak now
@@GoldenKingdom-kp6dt You're right. But what if he didn't know??
Women who defend this and see him as insecure, need to go all they way up the "secure" scale and view Adam 22 letting his wife do what she did as the benchmark for being secure in the relationship. . .( Meaning, really, yall just wanna do whatever the hell yall wanna do)
You make a solid case and point. Adam 22 has been getting eviscerated online, but honestly think it comes from others own insecurities and jealousy.
Couldn’t have said it better
This is a dumbass take. Adam literally encourages his wife to do PORN. Stfu and just say you a small man.
Pretty much..
That’s honestly what they expect
If she willing to risk her relationship by doing something that stupid then he should break up with her
You make a fair point.
Ngl bro if I was in that same situation with SZA then I'm sorry, I should have some leeway. Same shit with her too tho, that's why is important to communicate on shit like that.
then why it was the other way around....lmfao
@@claualexis1737 what you mean
@@ptyten9718the difference is KeKe is a celebrity as well.
This is the equivalent of flirting with a coworker
I think the conparison to the Chance situation is valid. Both actions are hella inappropiate in a vacuum, but I think context should give them some leeway. Chance was at a caribbean carnival where dancing like that is commonplace and seen as normal while Keke was being sung to by one of the most legendary R&B artists ever and probably someone she grew up loving. If you disagree then you should disagree with both and viceversa, you can't be cool with one and not cool with the other.
Egggxactly, each person just caught up in the moment of the circumstance. And her outfit wasn't too much at all. To Mel's point, they were in Vegas! I've seen women in stripper attire getting walked with a dog leash casually walking the strip. The dress code in vegas is outlandish, keke's fit was normal club attire
@@sims4610593Only she was at a concert in a Casino not in a club lmaoo
There’s no excuse for unacceptable actions. The setting doesn’t matter.
@BostonBori92 Bro come on, they dress like that at concerts too. It be plenty of women with they ass and titties out.
That’s nowhere near the same
She was Nickelodeon not Disney
LOL! Best comment on here! 😂🤣
Actually both, she was in the Disney movie Jump In as well.
He’s right for what he did but the way he went about it and posted it online was goofy
Why not? She would of lied about the breakup anyway made him out to be a alcoholic woman beater.....
At the end of the day she still did him wrong
Meanwhile she online reposting and on Live showing her making faces like 😮and drooling all over another man lol for her whole fanbase to see
@@brudderstyles3479exactly, it’s always a lose lose dealing with Black women.
Exactly
I'm tired of all of these terms to shame Men whenever we want women to respect boundaries like they do with us. "Policing a woman's body". GTFOH. If Men start walking around with our meat print showing, all of that "policing someone's body" will go out of the window.
Both genders are doing this bs if it’s not in their favor mtfs come up with reason why things are ok and shouldn’t be a boundary are we literally forgetting man we’re just trying to convince with me cheating wasn’t a big of a deal, and they should accept it and forgive
I thought the same thing but I don’t want to be seen has toxic or problematic 😅😅
That's ridiculous too tho bro. I think policing your partner's outfits just reeks of insecurity unless they hella foul. Men shouldn't be able to tell women to not wear a sexy dress just like women shouldn't be able to tell men that they can't wear grey sweatpants or some shit.
@@ptyten9718 yes but if it's see thru all that goes out the window because u know damg well it's inappropriate
@@ptyten9718I agree bro. It really wasn't about her outfit it was because tht nxgga usher was serenading her while she had tht outfit on😂😂😂we know what tht was. Nxggas get more done to us at a $trip club than he did with Keke...I wouldn't be trippin
Leaving money on the end table is crazy💀 Told Blood to order pizza and shut up😭
I felt hurt and I’m not even him😂😂😂
Told who? Stfu you internet gang member
🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
Feed the cats & dogs🤣🤣
Thought this was going to be a good debate but seems like if you the man not making more money, no boundaries
He wack for taking it to the internet. But if we being real every woman would of lost their minds if the shoe was on the other foot. They was all on JT side after she publicly abused Uzi. We can’t even like a picture on instagram without getting chopped up.
A lot of y’all don’t want a good man. Y’all want a trick or a simp!! Y’all want a yes man. A man whose only purpose is to serve you and not himself or goals!! Y’all couldn’t handle a “real good man.” Y’all can’t handle a man correcting you. or calling you out on yo bs and habits and holding you accountable. Y’all want a sponsor. A real man is going to lead and not be led. A real man isn’t going to allow you to have those same habits you been having. A real man is going to stand up for himself and know his worth. A lot of y’all definitions of a good man is a man that y’all can control.
This comment needs more likes 💯
They don’t want to hear the truth. 🙌🏼
@@anthonyt425 facts, humility is non-existent nowadays
Real good and “man” don’t go in the same sentence. Women have realized this by now
That boy was 100% intimidated that the person she danced with was Usher. She has shown her body before and he has hyped it up lol. Anyways he just shouldn’t have attracted all of the internet’s projection to her footstep. So many people were projecting their simple relationship issues to a specific entertainment situation they will never experience with Usher.
Even if he was intimidated he should be able to express how he feels. The public shit ain't cool but we've seemed to have adopted this " if the offense is done in public, then the outrage can be public as well" mentality and this applies to that. Chance the Rapper's wife did the exact same thing to Chance and she received no backlash. Let's be as loud no matter the gender.
@@sin2tymes65 Personally thought she overreacted over a dance but they’re married so it’s different and Chance has cheated so the trust was already shaky. I guess it’s just subjective
@@sin2tymes65facts!
It’s because he really loves her he said something. He wants to have a respectable relationship. She can show her curves out all night long . He proud. But to go on stage grinning and laughing at some guy and then turn around and show the world you wearing a thong in public; that is not his vibe. Ice T might have been cool with it and his wife. But Darius is a different person and Keke knows that. They have not been together just like that. They have been together for a bit (before she publicly stated she was pregnant).
You are a clown woman he need to dump that Thot! Before him what men wanted to date her 😂😂😂
Relationships should have boundaries, she knows what he like and don’t like. So he has to right to say what he want cause she has the right to dress that way she want.
And I don’t agree with the whole Vegas shit.
Atp boundaries is just buzzword niggas is using to excuse their insecurities dawg. Mad niggas don't even know the definition.
she publicly embarrass that man so she got publicly embarrassed
Never that, she’s a woman and them and accountability don’t mix.
@@Okkotsu86275Yeah these dudes simping on the net this bit just showed her cakes to the world Publicly and caressed a dude on national tv my boys would not let me live it down neither would my mind.
@@thekingsson1757 Correct, dude was in a lose lose situation regardless of how he responded. I personally didn’t see anything wrong with what he said. But apparently I’m not a “real man “ so what do I know 🤣🤣 Joe and them are kind of wack for their takes. And Mel is super wack.
I don't think she was embarrassed bro lmao, most of the internet defending her 😭
He was wrong for speaking on it publicly that was very female like behavior, he could of told her privately, he’s the man not the female
Policing what women wears is stupid, well ma’am this is why you are not married 😂
Yet women police damn near everything about men and it’s seen has alright.
She gon be single forever with her mentality
Policing what men wear is hella stupid too tho. I seen all these convos about how we can't wear grey sweatpants and I think that reeks of insecurity. Some women are gonna be attracted to us just like some men are gonna be attracted to our girl, that's part of life.
I couldn't have said it better I would think the point of dating is to be in a forever relationship or married at the end.....Lets be honest no man is going to be ok with their women doing this. Especially when you speak to her about it and her response is dont be insecure ill do what I want to do. That woman is going to be single and stay single the rest of her life. People not talking about Saweetie who was there who whole persona and music career is all about get money, use ninjas and keep it pushing. she dating YG now she knew she better not do anything suspect with Usher or its going to be an issue. So I dont want to hear oh it was harmless because there are plenty of women who knew how they actions were going to off looking.
Said the same shit 😂
😂😂 This argument is for entertainers in relationships!!
If you arguing with ya chick that work down at the hospital about a dress like that, you already lost bro-bro.. she for the streets
This the era where women don’t wanna be held accountable & think they can do anything they want with no consequence, bottom line the dude has standards, the only thing he did wrong was go on social media about it like a female
If he had “standards” he wouldn’t be a baby daddy
@@chiefqueef1591 it’s more easier said than done but I feel u
I don't know how you do it Mel! 😂
notice since not a celebrity he has no voice about his family ,that why women cant lead relationships they disrespect the man all round ,but expect him to take it and keep it moving
He disrespected himself. He ain’t no man
@@QueenSuga405How so
@@Okkotsu86275 if I have to explain, you’re not one either.
@@QueenSuga405 And I’m guessing your not one either, by the way you talk.
@@Okkotsu86275 probably more of one than you are 😂😂
The thing is... if the situation was reversed.... The internet would've dude 100x over.... while lifting Keke to God tier "you a queen and deserve better" status...smh
Absolute Facts 🎯 💯
What did she do?? Have sex with usher?? 😂😂😂
He can be salty but doin ya bm like that publicly is lame
Arguments need to stay in the house; no one should not know what couples are arguing about.
Lame is he outting her in the first place
She kept it all REAL private.
@@wpdjs626 Super private
@@Thisndat80noone should see you disrespecting your partner either sure most people cheat but do it across town not up the street
Top Shaming Tactics by Women.
1. "Who Hurt you?"
2. " you're insecure"
3. "You're Controlling"
4. The list Goes on.
Don't let women shame you. It's not a shaming tactic if you don't feel the shame. Women will always try to lower you.
“I’m not doing this right now, you can leave. You’re doing too much”
😂 and Keke's not worried about men nor women shaming her because she's not a shame. Stop being biased and one sided..... TOP SHAMING TACTICS BY WOMEN 😂🤣🤦. You funny because those lines can and have been used by men as well.
@blkporcelaindoll stop taking up for black women that walk around half naked... then complain when they get stereotyped
@blkporcelaindoll ADVICE TO BLACK MEN
Female Shaming Tactics:
-"Weirdo!"
-"Are you gay?"
-"Stop whining!"
-"Who hurt you?"
-"You are a loser"
-"You are in Incel"
-"You have issues"
-"You need therapy"
-"Man up,You pussy!"
-"You misogynist creep!"
-"You’re just bitter cause you can’t get laid"
Beware Of Women Who Uses These Phrases And Arguments On You Anytime You Speak The Truth, Stand Your Ground, Or Express Yourself As A Man. She Does This To EMASCULATE You.⚠️
Hes has every right to be salty
He also has a right to be a man, which he’s not 😂😂
@@QueenSuga405he’s more successful than the ppl on the internet
@@QueenSuga405and why is that? Why do women feel like they can tell men what a man is? This ain’t woman behavior it’s hoe behavior! If that’s the case! Ya laughing at him while the world constantly laughing at us! Straight up embarrassing! Out of all his concerts her hot ass did the most!
@@isaiahh4108 I highly doubt it, but ok 😂😂
@@isaiahh4108 successfully getting bitzh by his baby momma 😂😂
She was more happy to get that moment with usher than he ever seen her. That’s the issue.
I can’t believe this is a topic. He said what he said. I don’t care what your profession is-boundaries are boundaries.
What she did at that concert was like playing a role in a movie it wasn't this much uproar when Beyonce gave Terrance a lap dance. It was for entertainment
Beyonce the performer. They talked about janet same thing.
Uproar? Didn't need it, bet you never seen her dance on another man again
she gettin paid for this "role"? lol goofy.
Keke wasn't getting paid tho
@@Neolove2.0she danced on men for an entire tour 😂 while in a relationship with Jay Z. The delusion
I'm seeing a lot about Darius approaching it wrong. Keke is the one that posted that ish first, making it free game. Ef taking an L for the sake of it.
This is what happens when there are no boundaries and respect for each other in a relationship.
The Usher show giving Joe life is WILD👀🤣🤣
It wasn't about the dress, it's her hanging all on usher. If he tweeted that, no one will be getting on him.
Really?
It was definitely about the dress
It definitely wasn't about the dress. He probably doesn't say anything if she was merely shown in the dress minding her own business. It was the salivating and body language hugging up on another dude that's the problem. She punked that dude in front of the world with all that.
Joes symptom explanation was so accurate 😂😂😂
He should’ve spoke up after she put that outfit on and asked him “how do I look?” Before she left out the door
@@rehn4529 I’m married mam I’m speaking from experience…People push the envelope in most relationships to see how far they can go… He should have spoken up like a real Man would before she left out of the house… He sounds like a beta male…. Fix your life
She was in Vegas. Out thotting without him.
They had some serious issues already because that was a convo for a call or face to face.
For the sake of the argument let's say roles where reversed and Keke's BD was at a Cardi B and Meg concert and they brought a chair up and Keke's BD was danced basically "serenaded" to WAP. Y'all don't think Keke would be pressed. IMO it's not so much as a man trying to control a woman and what she can't or can do but the BD in a really bad way told the world " I'm disappointed my PARTNER chose to put themselves in a situation that looks bad or can lead others to misinterpret how our relationship is" Serenades are typically between a man and his lover at night or serenading can be seen a romantic gesture. If you are thinking that the BD should have passed up going on stage while thinking Keke is okay because it's Usher..... You are part of the problem.
On one end of the spectrum Adam22 is getting clowned for transcending his jealousy and letting his wife get piped by another man (she does porn, but so does he).
At the other end Keke Palmer's partner is getting clowned for expressing his jealousy at another man (Usher) serenading his wife in skimpy clothes. NUANCE?
Jealousy is a natural, biological response. You don’t have to act on it or express that jealousy but you’ll probably feel it. Adam admitted feeling jealous but he lived with it (he does porn, she does porn, they have an agreement.) He's in public so he's gonna get clowned but he did nothing morally WRONG. Maybe he did something wrong to his spirit but that’s for him to decide, in my opinion they upheld their agreement and maintained honesty in their relationship. Could I do it. Probably but I usually prefer monogamy. I’ve been in open relationships in the past and as I say I think jealousy is unavoidable for most but you do not have to act on it. Ethical non-monogamy has a multitude of ways it can manifest and could make sense in various situations with different personalities.
Keke's partner should have said something in PRIVATE BEFORE she left the house… ...not something in public after. Publicly shaming was wrong imho.
So it's not wrong to feel jealous, it's natural. If you and your partner are honest with each other and respect agreed boundaries it's cool. If you don't set boundaries it's on you to improve communication...
But ultimately I SHOULDN'T KNOW ANY OF THIS SHIT. I only know because they became podcast topics for two weeks. I don't care about celebrities but I do care about the dating environment and the assumptions or expectations a partner may have in the future. So let's talk among ourselves to have reasonable expectations.
Very very well said
@@Okkotsu86275 Thank you. I just had to rant somewhere!
@@kevthepoet Naw you good, the double standards of society is crazy. Knowing damn well if the tables were turn people would be killing the dude. Homie was in lose lose situation no matter how he responded, like you said about Adam22.
loved your opinion and insight
@@cherylbrown5758 Thank you!
We gotta get these tunnel vision people off these podcast! U know damn well keke was feeling that way to much stop the 🧢
Agreed, Miss Palmer was foul for this one.
*too
I thought the men on this show were gonna give more intellectual responses, especially Joe. I’m surprised by his response in this clip.
Yeap they said a whole bunch of nothing & barely let Mel speak
When do they ever speak intellectually?
“Policing women” anything is code for saying “Lemme be a hoe and you better celebrate it!”
Exactly! All the women were overwhelmingly in favor of Keke showing her butt cheeks to the world and loving the moment. But since it’s a man objecting there’s going to be heavy criticism to shut him down.
home eatin spaghetti Os is crazy! 😂😂😂
15:26 man HELL NAWL. You are a mom, ppl like Keke cause of her image. Folks seen her as a classy, mature, black queen. Which is hard to do in hollywood but she did it up until now. She the acting Janielle Monet now
Keke is a Sister Activist. She has always shared her highs & lows; skin, career, body. She’s been a hostess & completed interviews. She is an entertainer 🎉
*Hoestess
Tell the truth and shame the devil
Bruh. I usually love hearing from Mel but Joe takes up so much space, it’s overwhelming lol. Love Joe but chillll. Let these awesome additions to the podcast say their piece 😭
I get womens rights...I am a woman but she the only woman I've ever seen pop out a baby then never stay home, start going out dressing more naked than ever then be all up rubbing on another man in front of the world while ur man at home watching on TV. I would never disrespect my husband or a boyfriend like that...same as I wouldn't appreciate him doing it to me. Like go learn ya son chile! These days are precious.
Come to Baltimore (really don’t come, but you get the point). Watch how Chrisean Rock show out when she drop that baby. These “celebrities” are nothing but the ghetto chicks with more resources to act ghetto.
What he wanted to say 😂
2:20 Smh mothers aren't allowed to be an adult? She has a life that she can't lose just because she is a mother. Same for fathers or any guardian. Its up to that that individual to pick where they chose to hang out or do when they spend time away from their children.
Who’s this giving permission to people to be adults, I thought that comes with turning 18
@@mayeezy254 Excuse the way I explain. I had edited the statement and added a question mark. After that question mark hopefully i explain myself better.
Any woman that says you can’t police what women wear is a not someone you wanna deal with besides jumping up and down on.
Keke wasn't the first woman to get serenaded by Usher at his Vegas residency show. Him serenading women IS PART OF THE ACT, just like the guys on the Pod wanna compare to Janets show. It's the same thing. Second of all, Ive seen usher serenade young, Old and even grandmas at his show in Vegas, some with their spouse present. He even kisses them as well. Keke's BOYFRIEND is just a BOYFRIEND. You can't expect WIFELY commitments from a GIRLFRIEND. You can't expect a girlfriend to wash, cook and clean and you haven't committed to them to be or is married. Thirdly, she's an entertainer is who is wearing a DESIGNER dress in which SHE is an ambassador for, so her wearing, twirling in the dress, however you find it inappropriate it, is promotion. It's her job. Which pays her bills and feeds her child. Good day!
Maybe only me, but if my husband doesn’t feel comfortable me wearing some clothes I’m not wearing it…he should’ve called her and not post it though lol
I love Keke Palmer is a star all of a sudden, what does she have going on? She ain't award winning anything outside of her child acting phase.
Dawg🤣🤣🤣 I see no lie told, but people will say she was in NOPE.
Mel is a 40+ year old single former video vixen and now I see why!
The only thing that changed is she upgraded from a Honda accord to a Jeep
Most very attractive women have this mentality. You cant fall in love with them you gotta deal with them and move on when its time to go.
U don’t see why u assume y
when she said she didnt see a problem with what she wore and that he shouldn't "police womens bodies" i just rolled tf out of my eyes....they make excuses all day for their wickedness but will crucify a men if he did the same smh
@@TopFlightSecurity415 of course! I also noticed a whole panel of men who had no problem calling buddy out on what he did wrong but as soon as it’s on the other foot now she passionate! Smh
"No......... I Get On The Board" lololololol!!!
Y’all sound like usher bent her over on stage and had his way 😂😂😂😂😂
He did with his eyes
@HolidaySeasonGaming ...that is not the point..
Ok I appreciate the way y’all “Men” handled that. Mellissa was trying to get us to just be ok with woman doing what they wanna do while in a relationship and compare it to men. We are not the same.
Keke Palmer is fine fine, and she didn't do anything wrong. If that's how he felt he should have waited till she got home to say something. Now if it was not about the outfit, and it was really about Usher Raymond he should have kept it playa. 🤐🤫
This clip tells you exactly why M Ford is still out here single and dating at 40 odd years old. The mindset of some of these women is crazy!
Exactly
Yall do not know these people
"Thats why shes not married"
And thats why youre in the comments section speaking on people you dont know...
Relax, go pay your bills 😂😂😂
1:50 yeaaaa😂
I love you Joe B!!! Always keeping it raw.
I don’t care about her being a mother. It was disrespectful. He was disrespectful to the dude that she was with. She has no history of this. Jennifer Lopez had a history of this before she got married and had children. This woman didn’t have a history of this and so it’s really disrespectful. Never mind with money she has. We get this straight, after this if it happens again, I’m done. I’m not putting up with any shit like this that’s for gotdamn sure.
Nobody cares about men having standards and preferences for their women... He was wrong for using a public forum to try to correct her behavior. He has her number, I'm sure - she IS a mother, HIS child's mother, and he should have had more respect for her than to try to publically chastise her to get public support in his beliefs. We shouldn't know his preference for her in their relationship. It was childish behavior
The fact ppl say the outfit is ok is amazing 😂
Exactly....this is why I dont take these clowns seriously
They argued about everything but what Keke’s baby dad said
There was nothing to argue, they all agreed he was wrong
@@Micisme86they're clearly pandering.
But then again,seeing the type of th0tties joe usually dates, I'm not surprised he's okay with this
Joe know damn well his toxic ass would spazz if this happened to him.She was wrong
Idk if it’s the presence of the woman or what, but this podcast has been overly cautious and sensitive whenever topics like this come up. Joe used to be the dude that speaks freely, now he’s mr. “I’m not gonna police womens bodies”. Is this him changing, or is he just putting up a front? I can’t even tell anymore.
I think it was the "you a mom" comment that rubbed a lot of women the wrong way, but other than that he was well within his right to feel a way. I don't think he's necessarily wrong for publicly calling out her behavior because the behavior she displayed was a lil too much and it was ALSO public. Saweetie didnt do the most and neither did Winnie Harlow who was there with HER MAN. There's nothing wrong with having a good time but she was doing too much all up on him and she definitely showed him her butt lol
But she is a mom and maybe moms shouldnt dress like that. The child gone see it too one day.
@@Abandoned2377he took a video of her on his Tik Tok with her shaking her ass. He don’t give af about her image. He just mad Usher sung to her.
@@Smartkid2387exactly he's posted pictures of her ass on his socials for his own clout, talking about having my baby gave my girl a fat ass. Posting pictures of her in bathing suits and shit lol nows he's mad at the outfit SMH he's so insecure and lame
Said keep the dishes washed lmaooo
Remember when Keke face use to look like the walking dead? That Ninja was with her back then. So the fact that because her face cleared up she thinks she bad. Homie need to leave now
Usha still a real heart crusha 😂😂
She revealed by herself just how I'm sure she let's him know I got this by myself
She never wanted him, just wanted to have a baby. I’ve got chicks who I dodged who had babies by other men who still chase me to this day. Told one of ‘em straight up, I feel sorry for your baby daddy. I’m not stupid, the games she plays will get me and her killed, yo not even like that but dudes will catch their first body over a manipulative female.
🥴🥴
See my thing is this…
“What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” is NON-NEGOTIABLE.
Cameras should NEVER be out in Vegas.
Of course the non married chic is going to defend the thottery
She mooned him😂😂 but Keke was wrong
lunch money on the end table is absolutely insane
The flint tropics fit 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Broski took the L from jump just letting her leave the house with that on.
*Keke said he saw the outfit and slapped her booty. His issue was the actions. Keke can wear what she wants but that dress did come with a short dress under it, she chose to wear a thong bodysuit.*
Mel’s face says a lot during this KeKe breakdown. Especially when they spoke on her outfit.
As many times as women have put their exes on blast in public, I know we're not going to criticize this man for airing out Keke.
But here we are
Men are policed as hell
All iHave to say is, he could have discussed his views to her in person instead of the internet but it’s their lives 🤷🏾♀️
Y’all don’t have that same energy when women celebrities bash their men online
He should dump her goofy ass
@@TheIcemanthomas that’s not all women.
@@TheIcemanthomasthat's a fact they really don't but at the same time I know me as a man I would of wait till I seen her fuck posting it
Meanwhile she online reposting and on Live showing her making faces like 😮and drooling all over another man lol for her whole fanbase to see. Including him.
Sometimes I wanna reach through the screen and say 👋🏽 tap me in M4😂 cause mannnnnn listen
These old people keep saying Disney, it was Nickelodeon 😂😂😂 True Jackson VP
“Rent a movie if you like”😂
Lunch money on the end table is crazy!!! 😂
This is to much of an immature group to have this kind of conversation.
I agree
idc im policing what my women wears no way u got respect for your man doing all that shit foh 🤣🤣😂😂
This is such a stupid take. Who cares if the man is a nobody, and won’t get another woman on the career level of keke. She disrespected him in public. Period. My God, This world is so damn back wards right now.
Go find some other women with similar values.
@@jessp8238 im sure he will, and I bet she will cry about it too.
Keke & Usher have been friends for years.
Theygo way back cause they`re in the SAME INDUSTRY!
it`s hard for a normie like her ex (in this case) to understand those relationships...
yes she fangirls over Usher and had a good time but thats it, basically.
Usher is like a One Man Chippendales Show & the ex fell for the trap.
why are Joe's toes out?? 🤣🤣
Let Mel talk without interrupting please
Lunchables in the freezer LOL 😆
Where he fucked up at is airing his feelings out on social media,the salt in those posts makes me thinks he told social media before even speaking to her about it.
He been popped up on the scene. 😭
It was before the baby. A lot of people just didn’t know.
What's crazy about this is all the goal post shifting! If a married man with a kid was getting serenated by another woman like this, that woman would be pissed and all women online would also be pissed! She should have been a responsible woman and turned down the offer! Also do better Melissa! No husband minds. Their woman wanting to feel sexy and be perceived as being sexy to outward people. But this is definitely crossing the line! If my girl knows this is wrong then the rest of y'all need to do better! But maybe that's why my girl is married and going to stay married😂!