MI5 had intelligence linking Manchester Arena attacker to bomb plot - BBC Newsnight
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2023
- Newsnight has been told the Security Service’s failure to prevent the Manchester Arena bomb attack in 2017 centred on a mistake so serious that it could be viewed as negligent.
Two sources told the BBC that MI5 received intelligence in the months before the 2017 attack, linking Salman Abedi to a bomb plot.
Earlier this month, the public inquiry into the attack concluded a significant opportunity to stop the attack was missed.
Newsnight’s Richard Watson has the story.
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Condolences to all deceased
@@RyanE01 when did he say he was speaking on behalf of you?
@@RyanE01😂🤡
I'm not really good at english, but is it correct to use word "deceased" here?
@@cruella7387 Yes
LOOL
His family came from Libya to take refuge in Manchester, yet that was how he repaid the city
His mental state? America and Europe destroy everything. If they stayed away this kind of incident would never happen. Iam speaking of experience seeing my loved one killed in front of me as an 7yrs old child. I have nightmare every night. Its important to understand mental health here.
@@shugs20 If you're talking about the US' bombing of Libya in 1986, it was to retaliate the West Berlin discotheque bombing. If his family and he resented the West so much, they should've gone to Middle East to take refuge
@@containedhurricane name a place where a western country hasn’t and will never be bombed into oblivion that will take him in ?
@@containedhurricane I think 🤔 🤔 of not the 1986 and more so oon when the west took actions and funded the downfall of Gaddafi thats where the mistakes where made, If I'm not mistaken the West worked with people like this scum to defeat Gaddafi which was a bad person but we have many bad people here,, The point is the west worked with and funded these animals it was only a matter of time they we the west got bitt ....
@@shugs20 he should of fucked off to a middle eastern country, why bother coming to Europe if those Muslims hate the west so much
There used to be MI5 agents who would go rogue to stop bomb plots before they happened. Not anymore sadly.
Not they encourage it and use it as a scare tactic 🥴
Any credible references for that claim?
@@PsyOps404 here you go. A credible reference. ua-cam.com/video/R76eRnLzAb8/v-deo.html
@@Musclehustlerz I know what you meant by that sentence so don't worry about correcting it. I wouldn't say that they allow bomb plots as part of a scare tactic to the public. I would just say that the bureaucracy is probably much stronger. I would hope that the MI5 agents wouldn't be afraid of losing their job by saving people's lives, that would be crazy wouldn't it?
You don’t need evidence that’s how mi5/6 work they follow and develop targets they don’t often arrest them they want to turn them for their own benefit or expose the network. That is the nature of intelligence but often results in mistakes! The perception is they save lives and stop things happening but this is misguided! If the act can be used for their advantage and fits their narrative they will let it happen. Remember these Libyans were encouraged, assisted and trained to go back to Libya.
Picked a concert full of young girls as well, and sat through the whole thing before doing it. Probably sweating on the way out thinking it’s now or never.
Wait he sat through an entire Ariana Grande concert? No wonder he blew himself up
@@waynejohnson1786 low blow
@@waynejohnson1786 that’s not a bad joke but people died so it’s a bit off
Will at least he chose a trashy concert over a good one
He didn’t attend the concert, he waited outside.
Absolutely disgusting that they had opportunities to stop this from happening and they did nothing . 7 years they were aware of him it's crazy as if they allowed it to happen . They had so much information on him his movements and how it all occurred how could they let it continue . It's crazy someone reported it before it happened and yet ignored . Someone should be held accountable . Even if there was a chance it was a false threat so atleast send a few officers as a precaution keeping a lookout for the person. Major failings took place from the intelligence service . This isn't the first time this has happened . Imagine what other intelligence they had they didn't disclose . Absolutely disgusting. There are two sides to blame here the attacker and the intelligence service that allowed it to happen due to clear negligence and ignoring or information they recieved .
My Condolences to relatives and family of the deceased
It’s amazing how many people say I’m sorry after there caught. It means nothing unless you say sorry before it has to come out in the news
Condolences to every victim, when evil blinds the human, turns him to monster like this one
Religion of peace...
why does someones wrongdoing straight away pin towards religion when its the greater minority
Saffie Rose is such a beautiful name for a beautiful girl. So sad for all the victims lost and survivors 😢
Stop making it worse
@@Way-M 🤬you
@@Way-M how is that making it worse?? Are you dumb?
@@Way-M go away
@@TOOTHLESS666 thank you because I meant my comment in the most loving way and not to make anything worse. 💕✌️😊
A whistleblower once mentioned that that tat up the initial investigations and can't catch up quick enough.
Condolences to the family's 😢
1:28 "Might have; could have; possibly; if..." Hindsight is 20/20.
M.i.5 should be shut down.A new security group consisting of army,police and public input would be better looking after the security of the UK.
Reminder one of the cops who COULD have stopped him left her post early to stuff her face with Greggs
They’re allowed to eat as they’re humans too
who’d pass on greggs though
The father was heartbreakingly magnanimous towards M15.
His father was probably an mi5/6 asset
@@gartnait1 they had already used the fathers group in Libya to try to assassinate Gaddafi many years before, he was known to them and also aided him to go back to Libya. Him and his group were trapped in Saudi Arabia years ago in exile and were allowed to come to Manchester as a sweetener to a UK Saudi arms deal. All facts I know a lot about this case have read extensively and watched the whole court case. This is all open source info
@@Woody10UK The more you know … I feel like a lot of things will start coming out about these types of incidents as time goes on.
The inquiry heard PC Jessica Bullough and PCSO Mark Renshaw took a two-hour meal break that evening - which included a five-mile trip for a kebab - which PC Bullough said was "unacceptable".
How could they release someone like him???
Scandalous
the left made it so these people get VIP treatment in the uk we have terrorists in council houses with police guards so no one can harm them thanks lefties
@@Anicius_ bro he bombed himself
A true muslim will never kill themselves or take innocents life. This is against the commandment of Allah. A major sin is murder.
Then why did Muhammad violate a peace treaty he had with the Jewish Banu Quaryzu Tribe and then order the beheadings of all the Men, Young Boys and atleast one Woman? Surviving Women and Children were then taken into slavery.
It's done.
Have you ever sat in a meeting, any meeting, with some concerning information doing circles in your mind, but for fear of being wrong or in the presence of influential superiors or a bulldozing chairperson, you say nothing and the meeting ends? 😑
What makes a person do this? There is a total failure in eradicating violence and the processes are inadequate! Action needs to be taken!
He was trained by NATO and him and his brother were saved and repatriated by a British Naval ship from Libya, it was stated they were debriefed (you don’t debrief enemies) they worked for us and mi5/6 knew exactly who the two brothers were. They also knew their father who had fought with Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Russians, he was part of a group that had tried to assassinate Gaddafi in the past. Something happened and this act was blow back. Mi5/6 failed and this is being covered up! The story of the family and many others from Manchester exposes the illegal regime change in Libya and the inner workings of the intelligence services and Government. The Libyan families were brought to Manchester as part of an arms deal with Saudi Arabia
Yet we house them, appalling...
In some countries, you can be charged with such negligence. Shame they couldn’t prevent it.
There is alot of evidence to show this was a staged hoax, no evidence of any bomb going off only reports of a "bang", which according to some eyewitnesses sounded like speakers and balloons popping. The type of device that Abedi was said to have used does not match what was seen or heard. Many things don't add up with the witnesses, like Nick Bickerstaff and his camera phone video he took where he is filming himself shouting out for his daughter (supposedly after the bomb has gone off), and yet you can clearly see concert goers walking past him acting normal. They said that the glass roof had been shattered, but this is not true as footage was taken from a drone shortly after showing the glass room to be intact, and none of the glass doors leading to the station where damaged, contrary to what the media says that they were. Abedi was seen leaving his bag beside a wall in the concourse and then fleeing the arena building, he was then followed by car by armed police response teams.
Incompetent mi5 and police. Whats new?
Yet sometime in your life you’ll end up crying and begging on the phone for the police to help you 😂😂
@@iEX3CUT1ON3R yeah and theyll still probably arrive 2 hours late 😂😂
I remember I was 6 or 7 and seeing this on the that everyone running down the stairs and running for there life’s I didn’t know what was going on but I was asking so many questions, I couldn’t tell it then but now I could tell my dad was horrified
Even the Mumbai blast attack in India they were spotted same luggage bag on their shoulders, relatively same as this person seen wearing.
Next time that’s a note to make if someone wear such shoulder bag and acts very suspicious
He believed he was a hero. Hitler thought so, too. This is a complicated problem, not solved by security measures, but by philosophical arguments. When we are addicted to smartphones, and so many suffer alone, we lose.
The innocent killed will have justice, any child killed will have justice. Simply killing yourself does not mean the one ☝️ that created you cannot bring you back to life to hold you accountable.
it was no mistake. he was a patsy.
Attach could be prevented by different measures . Intelligence services doing their job better would mean that they have to monitor everybody in the whole planet and taking actions . Isn't that a bit too much ? Somebody might be frustrated by knowing that he and everybody around him is constantly being watched . Do the intelligence service like to be a god or something who knows everything what you are doing ? I think that's a job for a god not for a mortal people .
They do have access to most information that we provide so let’s not pretend that we are not tracked by law enforcement agencies and mi5 knowing he’s apart of the Islamic state and had a bomb plot like cmon. I could search how to make a bomb on Google and I’d get shit for it
We need to protect Britain and our people our children. Regardless of political correctness and bs ~ that young girl had a whole life to live. Gone bc of a foolish thought. Evil.
Prayers
Wow..how heavy is that backpack
Terrible incident!
MI 5 do not have enough resources to follow up on every scrap of information they have unfortunately. They felt the info was unreliable and they were wrong. Hindsight is a fine thing.
Ultimately the bomber and his handlers were responsible.
I don't get the point of the spooky music
Whoa that's pretty accurate
Still bringing this up bloody hell its like use want it to happen again. 🔮
there's a special place in hell for cowards who kill kids and innocent people by blowing themselves up? and any person who is found to of helped these cowards should be charged and sent to prison.
Poor kids
The UK has a 24 year old California-educated graduate leading the country against domestic threats… God help all of y’all
Lol better then a Boris, and that weird woman
Salman Abedi was brought to the UK by the Royal Navy as a refugee from Libya. Cultural Enrichment I guess
Nothing like piggybacking the death of kids as a soapbox to push your own political agenda, well done.
Yea Europe is gone and soon America with joetato Biden in charge of immigration
This man is unprofessional at all the apologies are not helping to back all the innocents peoples lifes
We are monitoring him
CAREFUL. Sometimes looking back can blind you of the future.
Richard d hall - the night of the bang
Yep. It was proven to be a staged event.
Yep, Richard D Hall's work on the arena "attack" is excellent, so much to show this was a staged hoax, and the BBC have been going after him. Shame most of the comments here are just believing the official story.
“Information was unreliable” what a joke
Anyone on the watchlist ought to be jailed or deported immediately.
@Giga Chad more like you
Just charge it
The REAL question is why didn't they confess to this right away?....... Why did they cover this up for so long.
Diversity is our strength 💪
MI5 also let him go Syria 🇸🇾 to get trained and fight
We need to be a damned sight more stringent with all potential terrorists and crime in general! People aren’t scared, and we almost need to go back in time whereby the punishments were severe! If we don’t, this country will continue to degenerate further on a daily basis!
Rip to the lil gal 🤜🏻🤛🏻
This terrible act was blow back for something the British Government did to their family, friends or fellow Libyans? We encouraged them to go back but what did they gain? Why was the father never arrested?
There have always been major issues with the recruitment policy IMO. It's always been very much an "old boy's club" and only in recent years has it started to diversify, and emply people with talent!
Fuck off with your worthless, forced diversification bullshit - get a grip on reality and focus on REAL PROBLEMS
Y r u telling us this now
It's irrelevant in the sense that the lives lost ,eternal wound.... can not be taken back
Is 22 fewer northerners really a bad thing?
Your name is certainly accurate
' Intelligence ' Service MI5 ???!!! 🤔🧐
22 martyrs, Lee Rigby(British solider), Samuel Paty (French teacher who dared to have an open discussion about Islam) and martyrs of Charlie Hebo will forever linger in the mind of this lowly 3rd world person who was not even born in Europe but desire for its welfare. Hope you "British" remember these fallen!
The head of mi5 should be personally held to account ! If they knew everything why was he still on the streets ?
Apologies will not bring back all the people lost !!!!!
Challenge! Every single suspect was known to the intelligence service...
Go and do your research
Let us turn our backs to hatred and start living as a unified human grouping #GlobalUnity 🙏
MI5 do know everything
mi5 had to work for bbc then like now and future
Let down by their own
Whether it be mass shootings or domestic terrorism the common thread is that law enforcement is very much aware of these perpetrators prior to their actions.
Law enforcement need to change their policies and intercept these people as soon as a threat is detected and not take the wait-and-see approach.
THEY ALWAYS SAY THEY WERE BEING WATCHED...
What good is that when YOU just let them do it
What is the point of MI5.
It's like it needed to happen to escalate service recruits as well as political tension against people from those regions but you know...honesty is a b**ch 🍷🍷
Also it is not on for people who have been there protecting the country to have their children state kidnapped
I recon Interpol U.K. headquarters will know why .
INTELLIGENCE:
Our separation policies will no longer work, in order to establish the same effect we need to turn 180 degrees, we need to reckon with a collective force of evil, an axis bound to destroy democracy and boost one man leadership.
We are being led like a hundred year old woman runs the show, she basically wants the show to run till her life ends, not caring if the show must go on afterwards.
In order to maintain our level of life, our supreme economy, because that is where it all is about, it is time to flex our military muscles.
The time of the oldies is gone, the time the young ones take over has come, we are fighting for our future, not for the prestige on your burials.
Not wanting to be rude but isn’t this a bit random.
Why?
I was there 2 days ago
Didn’t he travel to Sirte at the time where IS we’re in control of that part of Libya
Surprise surprise
It could of been stoped if proper people had more information on the intelligence
It should be undercover eyes to every single event that check step by step every single gate , by looking for some potential individuals it can be possible maybe stop the person before that happens.... but being real is also something to take in consideration and explosives and material for build this kind of things is today sadly even in the hands of children's... this can make in the hands of extremists vulnerable adults and even for mi5 find a crazy lone individual who get inside a stadium with a weapon ( in uk ten's of event every week ) ... for the % of numbers I think that MI5 is doing very very well , but I repeat , it's difficult deal nowadays with this crazy extremists, they are monsters .
The security services are second to none in what they do. 37 late stage terror attacks prevented since 2017 so they obviously are good at what they do. It’s unfortunate and unacceptable but Manchester wasn’t the first and statistically it certainly won’t be the last. Scrutiny is great because it helps identify where they went wrong but the public has to be aware that occasionally some will slip through the net.
I don’t think it’s fair to ever fully pin the failure on a single organisation but they owned it and will be sharper next time.
All the dirty judges need to be cleaned out and shut down
Repeat after me : Potential and actual terrorists deserve no human rights and should be dealt with outside of X country's laws .
Security guards saw his suspicious behavior, but didn't want to stop him because they didn't want to appear racist.
The security guards had gone for a Kebab
Had nothing to do with racism, they didn't want to look stupid if they got it wrong!
@@LambsyLamb no, it was to do with racism - one of the security guards said so
Source?
@@PennyWenny224 It's easy to use the race card, I would've approached him. Given my duty of care to the patrons of the venue. If someone is behaving suspiciously investigate! They maybe having a medical emergency or they maybe carrying a bomb! I don't know until I check.
why didnt this report bring up the police who could of all so stopped this but couldn't as they had left the sean for all most 2hrs to get food
100% could have been stopped, then people wouldn't of
lost their lives because of it.
I don't wanna tell this but who lost loved ones just having same situation as people in Afghanistan Iraq Libya Syria so it is probably ok
Yes it definitely wasn't a psyop
Mi5 really
PoV: Taco Bell
David Shayler
My blood boils watching this serial killer on camera, cant watch on
TOTALWOGDEATH
People need to start sueing the government
BUT Y?... dumb
manchester arena attacker ? just call it UK ariana concert attacker , draw more attention from angry viewers 👿👿😠😠👿👿👿
find a thicko to voice the words of judgement to make the views enganged?
Of course they did.. they always do
Just like whits shoot up skls?
Baphomet t shirt hmmmm
love for all hatred for none .
Beautifully said 🙂