Manchester Arena bombing: Inquiry criticises emergency response failings

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2022
  • In Manchester, people are trying to make sense of a devasating report into how the emergency services responded on the night of the Manchester Arena bombing .
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    Twenty two people died, hundreds of others were left injured.
    The report found the emergency services made mistake after mistake and that one of the victims, John Atkinson, might have survived if police, ambulance and fire services had responded properly.
    Only three paramedics entered the arena's foyer to help the 91 people lying seriously injured.
    It took over two hours for the fire service to arrive on the scene, and the two most senior police commanders on the night "made no effective contribution".
    We have been speaking to some of the victims and the families of those who died.
    Warning: This report contains distressing details.
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  • @dailygurrilavideos
    @dailygurrilavideos Рік тому +26

    Instead of throwing the emergency services under the bus for doing their jobs why don't we ask why the bomber and members of his family were sent to Libya to overthrow Gadaffi and then allowed back into the UK despite the fact that the local Muslim community raised concerned about the salafi ideology that the Abedi family followed both before and after they were sent and recovered from Libya?
    Why aren't MI5 answering questions?
    Why isn't home secretary at the time Theresa May who signed off on all of this answering questions?

  • @strangelee4400
    @strangelee4400 Рік тому +10

    Guess who the inquiry WON'T criticise...

  • @Scampi95
    @Scampi95 Рік тому +8

    Emergency services need to be trained for disasters ten times the size of this one.

  • @larrydickman5936
    @larrydickman5936 Рік тому +18

    With the benefit of hindsight, I sincerely hope that lessons will be learnt this time and security services will review their policies and procedures throughly and vigorously to ensure that this doesn't occur again on UK soil. Prayers, vigils (with Oasis songs), resolve and meaningful dialogue.

    • @brotherfecil4092
      @brotherfecil4092 Рік тому

      Oh shut up

    • @Embracing01
      @Embracing01 Рік тому +1

      I'd suggest you watch Richard D Hall's excellent independent investigation into the arena attack. Lots of evidence to show this wasn't a terrorist attack. So many things don't add up, including the lack of CCTV of the actual explosion. Abedi was seen running out of the arena building leaving his rucksack beside a wall, he was then pursued by armed police response teams who followed him around the city, this was recorded on their radio coms. The device said to have been used was (according to security services) does not produce a yellow flash, but people witnessed a yellow flash. Many of the witness statements contradict each other, Nick Bickerstaff's camera phone video (said to have been taken during the panic) shows concert goers walking casually past him, and Ariana Grande can be heard in the background, though she was supposed to have stopped performing before the explosion occurred. Ambulances were told not to enter the foyer until later on.

  • @davidz3879
    @davidz3879 Рік тому +20

    This is part of the price of cultural enrichment, which the gov are certain brings great improvements to the UK.

    • @_Snapper
      @_Snapper Рік тому +1

      brings cheap labour after generational indoctrination

    • @annhilator55
      @annhilator55 Рік тому +5

      maybe britain should stop bombing these countries then. It's only karma.

    • @spo666tty
      @spo666tty Рік тому

      @@annhilator55 what sort of mentality is that? You condone killing innocent young children who have no say in the decisions of their government? You literally feel it’s justified to kill children.

    • @catherinejaddii828
      @catherinejaddii828 Рік тому +1

      Feeling enriched right now, anyone else?

    • @annhilator55
      @annhilator55 Рік тому +1

      @@spo666tty reading comprehension of the average brit.. so sad

  • @babbzkash
    @babbzkash Рік тому +22

    A member of the public reported Abedi, wearing black clothes and a large rucksack to Showsec security. A guard observed Abedi but said that he did not intervene in case his concerns about Abedi were wrong and out of fear of being considered a racist. How sad is that. Feared of being called a racist.. This is the true reality of the world we have made.

    • @eddouglas
      @eddouglas Рік тому

      any proof of that?

    • @janolaful
      @janolaful Рік тому

      The guy was out there for hour's there's video he could hardly walk if it was reported it should of been to the police.. when I was there the security had no problems removing a disabled person because he was making a noise.. the toilets are near the entrance which when I went never saw one security guard. Anyone could walk in including the gut who was praised for helping the injured who turned out to be robbing the injured and dying. Has I said the arena and guards need to be held responsible.

    • @eddouglas
      @eddouglas Рік тому

      @@janolaful did he not intervene because he was scared of being a racist though? or because he was underpaid/undertrained/or basically a chancer and needs holding responsible?

    • @mecredi73
      @mecredi73 Рік тому +1

      No one should have been let into an arena with any bag that wasnt searched.

    • @jo18533
      @jo18533 Рік тому

      @@eddouglas Yeah it's confirmed sadly, a brief google search will find you something

  • @luciestorey506
    @luciestorey506 Рік тому +4

    since this happened and i see people with massive back packs in a shopping centre especially manchester shopping centres i always worry and think “i hope there not a bomb in there” it’s given us fears 😢

  • @olufagosebambulagose
    @olufagosebambulagose Рік тому +41

    It's pretty disgusting to blame rescue services for anything that happened there as I'm sure they were definitely doing everything they could and a major terrorist attack is not part of their everyday training. It's like throwing blame at the first responders on 9/11.

    • @johnstain1376
      @johnstain1376 Рік тому

      How can anyone legislate for a nut case with a bomb on his back wer,e not psychic.

    • @freetobeme6013
      @freetobeme6013 Рік тому +3

      Exactly. It’s the fault of the bomber!

    • @fuckbankers
      @fuckbankers Рік тому +3

      They acknowledge that they screwed up

    • @fuckbankers
      @fuckbankers Рік тому

      They acknowledge that they screwed up

    • @chocolatechipkookie3439
      @chocolatechipkookie3439 Рік тому +2

      The bomber is responsible for the tragic deaths not the emergency services.

  • @Nushka23
    @Nushka23 Рік тому +7

    Notice at 0:36 how a call handler states “this sounds genuine”. All calls should be taken as sincere immediately and not pre-judged.

    • @obiitom
      @obiitom Рік тому +4

      it's a not a pre-judgment, it's a statement of fact, every call that comes in on 999 can be one of four possibilities; genuine, false (as in a hoax), a call with good intent but incorrect (reporting someone burgling an address but really it's the bloke that lives there who has lost his keys), or over-exaggerated, that's an unfortunate fact of life. There are tens of thousands of hoax calls to 999 every year across the country, West Yorkshire Police alone received almost 2500 hoax calls 2020-2021, that's over 6 calls a day.

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому +1

      @@obiitom yes, and all, including those believed to be hoaxes, have to be acted upon.

    • @obiitom
      @obiitom Рік тому +2

      @@Nushka23 and they are, but it doesn't mean that an assessment isn't made during the call, it is part of the decision making process and determines the number if resources you send, hoax sounding call send minimal units to check, genuine sounding call send everyone.

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      @@obiitom I appreciate your point but equally feel unease at the subjective nature of what “sounds” genuine. Someone could ring for pizza and be in a situation of abuse or abduction whereby they cannot speak freely.

    • @obiitom
      @obiitom Рік тому

      @@Nushka23 Police don't have the resources to send everyone to what might be some blue light fanatic nor would it be appropriate to divert needed resources from other incidents to what may very well be a bogus call. You'd have a tough time justifying yourself at an inquest over why you let Jane Bloggs receive a shoeing from Joe Bloggs for the final time so she decided to end it all by jumping from the nearest high rise.

  • @KeithRingo
    @KeithRingo Рік тому +18

    Bombers are known to allow enough time to let emergency services rush in the in a second bomb goes off. I don't blame them for not going in until it was cleared by the emergency response unit.

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 Рік тому +1

      the media and politicians would perform much better I'm sure

    • @dogpound7162
      @dogpound7162 Рік тому +2

      The place was not cleared quickly enough, children were left to die because of damn protocol. The emergency services should have a better plan than just standing around with their fingers up their arses until they feel it's SAFE to do their job ffs.

    • @davidz3879
      @davidz3879 Рік тому +4

      That's what al-Shabaab did in Mogadishu on Saturday.

    • @demono1720
      @demono1720 Рік тому

      @@dogpound7162
      It's easy saying that but the security services who made the assessment could very well have assumed that there was more bombers and they were targeting evacuees BECAUSE of where the bomb was detonated.
      Sorry if that bursts your bubble. Don't be so angry.

    • @lewiss626
      @lewiss626 Рік тому

      @@dogpound7162 you think they where standing around outside.... seriously? Why should they just run in they are humans like the rest of us who although it is there job they are also entitled to be safe themselves

  • @jzilla1234
    @jzilla1234 Рік тому +6

    It's time to move on and stop dwelling on victimhood.
    What happened to the British "just get on with it" mentality

    • @nickyb1967
      @nickyb1967 Рік тому +5

      Tell that to the victim's families...

    • @jzilla1234
      @jzilla1234 Рік тому

      @@nickyb1967 i am

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      Tell that to the dead.

  • @petebagwell6666
    @petebagwell6666 Рік тому +3

    I was supposed to work there that night putting away the bands equipment and I took the day off but people that worked there said they didn't even tell our staff to leave the stage and as it was all going on they were oblivious just putting the gear away ffs

  • @speedokds
    @speedokds Рік тому +6

    Blaming emergency services is crass! Had there been adequately funded emergency services perhaps the outcome could have been better…the government have blood on their hands in my opinion! The root cause of this ‘blame’ is their cuts!

    • @speedokds
      @speedokds Рік тому

      @Mike Morris please furnish us all with the citation to back up your comment…and obviously that fire station would have prevented the blast yes? I work In central manchester so just laughing at your 500 yards estimate….lol

    • @speedokds
      @speedokds Рік тому

      Ran away lol, what clown, articles do not suggest that at all…poor reply, very poor…

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers Рік тому +5

    "Lessons will be learnt". Where have I heard that before.

    • @stephenwabaxter
      @stephenwabaxter Рік тому +2

      too often!

    • @Embracing01
      @Embracing01 Рік тому

      @@stephenwabaxter There is lots of evidence to suggest this was staged, and don't my word for it. They stage these attacks to bring about changes either internal changes to the country like changes in the law or as an excuse to blame another country. With Manchester there was immediately talk about lack of security and that more security measures are needed to stop it happening again, well they got what they wanted didn't they. Look at the Nick Bickerstaff video he took and tell me if that shows concert goers panicking. All the concert goers in that video are walking calmly behind Bickerstaff, and Ariana Grande can be heard still singing, but had already stopped performing before the explosion occurred.

  • @janolaful
    @janolaful Рік тому +3

    What about the security in the men where were they my son and I went there 3 weeks before and was searched i even said if this place was attacked you stand no chance why was this man allowed in where was security 🤔 they have to take some responsibility. My heart goes out to all who lost there lives 💔

  • @InterMalager
    @InterMalager Рік тому +1

    This might sound stupid because im still alive, but I was in a position wondering if I was going to die through blood loss, alone in the street, asking myself that question over and over until I thought i was gone! then woke up 4 days later rigged up to machines in Wythenshawe Hospital
    That poor man, I can relate, and sadly he passed away, its so sad

  • @Nath_967
    @Nath_967 Рік тому +1

    This is like Hillsborough all over again obviously different situation but a complete collapse in emergency response to the situation by both police and ambulance and fire brigade 28 years between both lessons should of been learned clearly not R.I.P to the 22 and 97

  • @apollo3396
    @apollo3396 Рік тому +7

    It's nice to hear from all these keyboard heroes...... Perhaps you people would like to join up and see what reality feels like?

    • @mecredi73
      @mecredi73 Рік тому +1

      Doesn't excuse lack of protocol, nor preparation...Any place where thousands of people can gather at one time should have more extensive security protocol and emergency medical necessities in case of a mass casualty event.

    • @SyntaxErr19287
      @SyntaxErr19287 Рік тому

      If this is your job do it right

    • @slyfoxyandalifesaver
      @slyfoxyandalifesaver Рік тому

      But part of the job despite all the training and knowledge is the fact there is a command structure and you are to follow orders give, if not then you or other people could get injured or worse... however it was the people in command who failed.
      At first fire crews were told to rendezvous at a fire station when police requested them to respond to a near car park as a staging area.
      When Fire crews did arrive with the office in command, the Fire OIC wanted permission from the police OIC to enter... Eventually Firefighters went AGAINST THEIR COMMANDING OFFICER'S ORDERS TO WAIT and entered anyway to provide medical aid, but they made this decision too late.
      While the fire crews did the right decisions, That's not their call to make.
      Police did not give Ambulances the signal that it was safe to enter the Areana when they should of... I don't know why... but ambulances were trying left waiting as well.
      The police's commanding officer also was unreachable for a long time for whatever reason. The police's commanding officer also was unreachable for a long time for whatever reason.
      Also I question how prepared Ambulance were considering this is the very reason why the concept of Hazardous Area Response Team (HART) was created.
      Overall, The criticism from the armchair responders do not seem to understand or recognised where the failure is and that it's not the majority of crews on the ground.

  • @RebeccaHails
    @RebeccaHails Рік тому +6

    In my opinion it wasn't the rescue services at fault, it was those at the top being unprepared in every way to deal with the magnitude of what happened. Those in fire, ambulance and police, I am sure wanted to go in and rescue people and had to stay and wait around until they were finally sent in far too late. I don't blame them, I blame those at the top for the inadequacies of that day. It makes me angry and so sad for everyone involved in this. I have lived in Manchester all my life and have never been so disappointed and angry for what all those poor people went through and those that survived still suffer with.
    On the other hand Figan Murray, who is Martyn Hetts mother, has gone on to do amazing and positive things in the aftermath of the terrorist attack that killed her son. She is an inspiration and so are all the other families that have fought for the truth and had the courage to go to these hearings again and again. I hope for better in our future and that lessons have truly been learnt this time..

  • @iangee3311
    @iangee3311 Рік тому +5

    This enquiry blames the emergency services much more than the total lack of professionalism, preparation or training of the Private security personnel on duty.That is unfair on the professionals.Another chance to put the boot into decent medics, Save anger for the perpetrators of the bombing.

  • @Ptr98
    @Ptr98 29 днів тому

    Inquiries are not to blame, are meant to see the things that can improve in future similar situations.
    I don’t think they were blaming emergency services, possibly they are the ones who need to learn more from this, along with the MI5.

  • @nolongerhavetowork
    @nolongerhavetowork 24 дні тому

    How can we rely on them when they let us down?

  • @lewiss626
    @lewiss626 Рік тому +1

    Wow to blame the emergency services who did there absolute best on a day of terror is sick. Stop acting like the NHS was in a good position in 2017 because it certainly wasn't ambulance wait times where just as high then as they are now and yes it might have taken the paramedic 18 minutes to arrive but I expect they where waiting for the police first. I wouldn't dream of slagging them off like this.

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail 2 місяці тому

    So much for running TOWARD danger. Thanks so much, 2nd responders. 😖

  • @aldorfc220
    @aldorfc220 Рік тому +10

    It's only after something bad happens we talk about what could of been done like who's to blame as humans we love to blame instead of trying to stop it before... And sometimes you don't know when it's coming??

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 Рік тому +1

      exactly. the terrorist should never have been here in the first place. a known jihadi terrorist

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 Рік тому

      @@Britpop968 typical, UK's leftist politics over decades lead to this

    • @RebeccaHails
      @RebeccaHails Рік тому

      It's about having strategic emergency protocols and responses in place regardless. Which they clearly didn't have. Is this a country wide issue too as they said 7/7 had a lot of the same failures? So nothing was learnt in the nearly 10 years between these attacks?

    • @fuckbankers
      @fuckbankers Рік тому

      Carrying plasters is not my idea of being prepared.

  • @englishstark6100
    @englishstark6100 Рік тому +1

    No Custom or Security Checks on the arrivals from France by Sea.

  • @caravanstuff2827
    @caravanstuff2827 Рік тому +8

    "COULD OF , SHOULD OF , WOULD OF".. mistakes were made , the world's not perfect!!.🤔💕🇬🇧🇺🇦

    • @dendog13
      @dendog13 Рік тому +1

      I'm sure if someone you knew died when they could have survived you'd have a different opinion 🤦

  • @rafaqatrasheed137
    @rafaqatrasheed137 Рік тому +2

    Hi there if any one read these comments.first of all please don't blamed to anyone....these things no body can think of. secondly no one have right to do such a evil thing.THERE IS NO religion on this planet teaching hurting any other human been .we all matters... please back up your emergency and law enforcement agency.we people don't even know what they deal with everyday.and they Ru doing they best.and lastly this hole world have a lot of more problems please lets stop blaming and come together United no matter about skin colour no about religion or believe or faith we all equal same.this is United Kingdom so let's United against everything which is no good for our kids future...NSH..OR ANY OTHERS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. SALUTE TO Yous...all way keep it up....if I said anything wrong please forgive me.kind regards.Raf

    • @johnlove3771
      @johnlove3771 Рік тому

      DOUBLE STANDARDS.
      ‘Every day the vast majority of our officers behave with professionalism and honesty when serving their local community and behaviour such as this lets us all down.’ N.B. The same thing could be said about the General Public; "‘Every day the vast majority of members of the public behave with professionalism and honesty when going about their business within their local community and those who behave inappropriately lets us all down.’ The Peel Principles include ;
      To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence. Unlike the general public Police officers are under a specific duty as set out in the Standards of Professional Behaviour contained within the Conduct Regulations to challenge and report improper conduct. This responsibility is set out and applied in the Code of Ethics and as such applies to all persons who serve in policing, irrespective of their role or status. The facts you have not considered are inter alia many police officers have a criminal record, the same is true of the public. The difference is obvious, and it is an established fact that those that have failed to comply with the Standards of Professional Behaviour are corrupt themselves and corrupt others. The bulk of Police, Fire, Ambulance responding to Emergencies are satisfactory the problems of inadequate numbers of staff cause failings due to the demands of work and shortage of vehicles and other equipment. The Police Service fails through its failures to uphold and support the rule of law. We are all aware of the rise in criminal conduct and the demands placed on police to record and investigate crime. There are a multitude of reasons for the public concern over the inability of the Police to prevent crime and disorder The principle reason is the loss of the Trust & Confidence in the Police. This is largely due to failure to adhere to the nine peelian principles that are considered the bedrock of our ‘policing by consent’ model of policing. The overreaction in many cases to the use of physical force, and corruption through inadequate conduct and criminal investigations. Trust is hard earned and easily lost. The Question that needs to be resolved is how to regain Trust.

  • @SMcCaskill
    @SMcCaskill 8 місяців тому

    Downright pitiful.... then you had the dispatchers that weren't listening to the callers when they tried to them there was a mass casualty incident.

  • @davidz3879
    @davidz3879 Рік тому +11

    Salman & Hashem Abedi were sure that doing this was the best way to promote their religion.

    • @kelanitweir4994
      @kelanitweir4994 Рік тому

      And they were wrong. Terrorism has no religion! It's only politically driven.

    • @davidz3879
      @davidz3879 Рік тому +1

      @@kelanitweir4994 Not true, because Islamist groups including al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab, Boko Haram & IS are determined to implement an extreme version of Sharia.

    • @kelanitweir4994
      @kelanitweir4994 Рік тому

      @@davidz3879 According to all leading Muslim scholars today, all these hypocrite groups are out of the fold of Islam. Muslims have been the victims of these groups for decades. We also fight against them. They don't impose sharia, the sharia is present in muslim countries for centuries. They try to implement their own rules to govern. Where in the Quran you can find that a man should be forced to not shave his beard or a woman is imposed to wear hijab or a face veil? And if they don't, they will be killed. This is non sense! No were in the 1400 years of Islamic teachings you will find this.

    • @davidz3879
      @davidz3879 Рік тому +1

      @@kelanitweir4994 Interpretations of the Quran vary a lot. It doesn't mandate any head covering, but in some Muslim countries - such as Pakistan - most people think that the hijab is required for all women. In Iran & Afghanistan, it's compulsory. In Turkey, the large majority don't wear a hijab.

    • @kelanitweir4994
      @kelanitweir4994 Рік тому

      @@davidz3879 And that is precisely why you i think you have a misconception about Islam. I will summarize it in 2 points.
      1 The interpretation of the Quran does not vary. In fact, we have the teachings of the prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) recorded in many books, some even memorize it .
      2 you conflicting about what Islam teaches and what some muslims are doing. In Iran, imposing hijab is a way of imposing the religion, and the Quran is clearly against it ( chapter 2 verse 256 there is no compulsion in Islam) . Furthermore, why not focusing on the majority of muslim countries? In Malaysia ( the largest Muslim country) no one is forcing anything on anybody, and there is a big Christian community there. In African Muslim countries we find the same phenomenon. Iran and Afghanistan are using Islam to govern as they pleased. That's all.

  • @dougaldouglas8842
    @dougaldouglas8842 8 місяців тому

    Just watching this and the footage of what we are told is the entrance to the arena, is not the entrance to the arena. This is some other place. If you stand outside the arena entrance doors, glass doors, you face a wall, not according to this footage. And even when you enter, turn to the left, it opens up and is again different than here. We are being conned.

  • @leah1633
    @leah1633 Рік тому

    They should be learning how to stop things like this in the first place ....not criticizing those who risked their own life to help

  • @geordiecanuck2696
    @geordiecanuck2696 9 місяців тому

    Shades of the 96... those there had to made do with improvised kit while senior authorities dithered... J'ACCUSE!!

  • @VaucluseVanguard
    @VaucluseVanguard Рік тому

    Gutless. As a soldier with over 30 years service I do not want to hear again from the emergency services how they take the same risks as members of the armed forces. We sign up for “unlimited liability”. A commander can order us to do something more likely than not to result in our death, injury or capture… potentially all three. We do not have the luxury to hold off in the way they do.

    • @slyfoxyandalifesaver
      @slyfoxyandalifesaver Рік тому

      As a Emergency Responder for 15 years, I'm sure you can relate to the fact Command fucked up!
      Fire crews were told by a commanding officer to wait while getting permission from police to enter, Ambulance crews waited for the scene to be declared safe too.
      I'm sure you know that the medics are some of the easiest targets.

  • @cheekyape
    @cheekyape Рік тому +4

    What I find strange is that in every one of these attacks, everything is blown to bits including the people responsible. But on every occasion, the passports survive and to show the identity of the persons responsible?? How is that possible?

    • @user-yw6qb9tt7t
      @user-yw6qb9tt7t Рік тому +3

      You always carry your passport on a suicide mission

    • @cheekyape
      @cheekyape Рік тому +2

      @@user-yw6qb9tt7t Yes, special "bomb proof" passports

  • @Nushka23
    @Nushka23 Рік тому +3

    Deeply concerned by the woman speaking at 12:30. Do not generalise people. There are plenty of individuals who will have got into their respected professions for the exact reasons she stated.

    • @slyfoxyandalifesaver
      @slyfoxyandalifesaver Рік тому +1

      I disagree, it is NOT a majority of emergency service personnel that go into their respected professions for the glamour or glory.
      Ambulances and Fire Brigade unions are striking. The exception is the police as authority can be perceived wrongly and can attract and deter people in different ways.

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      @@slyfoxyandalifesaver I was mainly referring to the police.

  • @geordiecanuck2696
    @geordiecanuck2696 Рік тому

    Just like the Liverpool tragedy, it was left to regular folk to improvise and do their best because, once again, senior cops were untrained and too political to do their job...at least this time, the press realized that the GOLD OFFICER was the problem regardless of GMP trying to protect their senior girl...BTW, she was quietly transferred back to Northumbria Police THEN promoted to 2IC...due to retire in March 23 with FULL HONOURS AND FULL PENSION...she must have a cabinet full of political and police service destroying dirt to evade being even mildly scorched...however, she's back in Geordieland...something Our Philip's family finds ridiculous...can't and won't speak for the other families from up here...has already been judged as a joke and should find some solitary pursuits as well as familiarizing herself with deliveries...even the well heeled up here find her distasteful...Hexham, Corbridge, all the gated footballer subdivisions, doesn't matter, YOU EPICALLY FAILED, DIDNT DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE TIME OR SINCE, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT WHEREVER YOU GO...if you still have any vestige of a conscience or humanity left from your epic climb through the ranks, you'll take the offered amunity for the truth and give us the chance to forgive you...there is no lateral move, no one left to step over or leverage, it's just you, a cardboard cop who started in a skirt and knows she side stepped the training for the gold bars...BE ASHAMED if you still have it in you...SMH

  • @chriscjad
    @chriscjad Рік тому +12

    The Emergency Services were heroes who did there very best under truly awful circumstances. I disagree completely

    • @demono1720
      @demono1720 Рік тому +1

      it's Manchester, spite is just a part of there culture and entitlement.

    • @elwolf8536
      @elwolf8536 Рік тому

      @@demono1720 true that

  • @transitman5114
    @transitman5114 Рік тому

    People know the real truth

  • @nolongerhavetowork
    @nolongerhavetowork 24 дні тому

    Disgusting behaviour!

  • @livescreaming
    @livescreaming Рік тому

    How are you gonna rag on ambulances when you fail to report that we werent allowed in, most of us would never hesitate to enter and assist people but when armed police would not allow healthcare staff to enter to make an attempt to save lives. The HART medics are allowed into the 'hot zone' but as you noted we were queuing outside because WE WERENT ALLOWED INSIDE by armed police thanks to their senior leadership despite our protests.
    No-one declared a major incident, which should be declared on first arrival so there was no notifying of the fire service who could have been vital and there was then hence no real organisation or comms.
    It feels like you havent even read the report and have taken the chance to just rag on us all.
    'Noone joins for the glamourous and social hours' what are you chatting?

  • @49cchris
    @49cchris 11 місяців тому

    God bless the victims in heaven!!!!!! 🙏

  • @missg3188
    @missg3188 Рік тому +6

    Martins mum spoke a lot of sense.emergency service people do years of uni & training to do jobs that save lives.if mistakes were made,which of course is tragic,how does it help anyone when these inquiries play the blame game.dont persecute the little people as they will have to carry the burden and memories of that night for the rest of there lives.go for the pencil pushing management who,the same as Westminster, are so out of touch with reality,they have no idea whats really required to keep people safe and in turn,save lives!

    • @nikmason6873
      @nikmason6873 Рік тому

      Are you for real?

    • @missg3188
      @missg3188 Рік тому

      @@nikmason6873 of course.why would i make up a false belief then put it on yt?

  • @larrydickman5936
    @larrydickman5936 Рік тому +1

    With the benefit of hindsight, I sincerely hope that lessons will be learnt this time and security service procedures will be reviewed thoroughly and vigorously to ensure that this doesn't occur again on UK soil. Prayers, resolve, vigils ( oasis song) and meaningful dialogue.

  • @flapjackni6221
    @flapjackni6221 Рік тому +2

    Don't blame people who are there to help, over those Muslim extremists who wish to kill.

  • @rajitharajesh9049
    @rajitharajesh9049 Рік тому +3

    Don’t you dare to blame the emergency services !!!

  • @lewisblank9475
    @lewisblank9475 Рік тому +4

    They did the best they could. I’m sure anyone seeing that carnage would
    Struggle.

    • @gitfoad8032
      @gitfoad8032 Рік тому

      What's your purpose? *You one of those 2 most senior cops who screwed-up royally? Give it up - you're pension's safe: failure is no impediment to success in shithole Britain.

    • @lewisblank9475
      @lewisblank9475 Рік тому

      @@gitfoad8032 next time
      A bomb goes off I hope you can rush to the site and manage it and take credit for it my friend for the sake of the peor

  • @hiddenburden5493
    @hiddenburden5493 Рік тому

    Hi
    If anyone could help with my questions
    So he was travelling regularly to Libya to fight on whose side ?
    How was this financed ?
    His brother is shall we say very well known to us, receiving aid from UK to fight in Libya
    Manchester 6
    A cell has existed for a very long time of Libyans In the North why is this not mentioned
    Funding and training from the UK
    The younger brother of one of these murders children and MI6 know nothing
    UTTER BULL

  • @2k10saints
    @2k10saints Рік тому

    I’m sorry but this whole thing is pathetic. berating emergency workers that will forever be scared by this horrific tragedy that will have been scared and confused at what was unfolding in front of them. Yes it’s tragic that people died and what happened but please don’t let this be put on the emergency services that I’m sure did everything they could at that time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but these people didn’t have that and will have been running into absolute carnage

  • @trapset1539
    @trapset1539 Рік тому +9

    I find it utterly disgusting that we try and find blame with our brave emergency services when the real blame lies with those in power who allow mass uncontrolled immigration with no background/security checks.
    RIP those innocent lives who died as a result.

    • @mino-taur
      @mino-taur Рік тому +5

      The person who did that was born British, nothing to do with immigration

  • @frazer1988
    @frazer1988 Рік тому +1

    The dedicated individuals working in the Emergency Services, such as paramedics, firefighters, and police officers, demonstrated remarkable bravery and professionalism in the face of exceptionally challenging and distressing situations. Despite the profoundly unfavorable circumstances they encountered, these heroes gave their utmost effort to protect and serve the public.
    However, I strongly hold a contrary viewpoint and believe that Channel 4, a media organization, should feel deep shame for tarnishing the reputation of these heroic individuals through their slanderous actions. The Emergency Services personnel put their lives on the line to safeguard our communities and respond to emergencies with unwavering commitment and selflessness. By making baseless accusations against them, Channel 4 not only undermines the integrity of these heroes but also disrespects their unwavering dedication to their duty.
    It is essential to acknowledge and appreciate the sacrifices made by the Emergency Services, who tirelessly strive to ensure our safety and well-being. Instead of slandering them, it is our duty as a society to support and honor their extraordinary efforts, recognizing their vital contributions in times of crisis.

  • @crusader8626
    @crusader8626 Рік тому +1

    The only thing i think really went wrong that night was the police who were meant to be keeping an eyeout at the station the bloke came in took an extra 10min break instead of going to their post. The rest of the services did their job to the best of their abilities in that situation. Theres also always a risk of secondary explosives to get the rescuers.

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      The police need to be abolished. Genuinely believe we would be better off without them.

    • @leah1633
      @leah1633 Рік тому

      @@Nushka23 don't ring them when you need them then ...deal with your problems alone . And within the law . Good luck 👍

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      @@leah1633 I won’t and I don’t- been there, done that. 8 times now over the past year. Won’t again. They cause harm, don’t prevent it. Good job for solicitors. I can only assume you have never been on the receiving end of reporting a crime.

    • @leah1633
      @leah1633 Рік тому

      @@Nushka23 I rang them when my mum almost killed my dad when I was a kid. Me doing that calmed the situation immediately and the police were great .
      I was a kid . Ringing the police was the only way I could stop what was happening

    • @Nushka23
      @Nushka23 Рік тому

      @@leah1633 we clearly have different experiences. Mine told my mum “If you don’t leave soon, the consequences will be on you”. The abuse was significant enough to later be police-escorted into emergency accommodation, yet no direct action was ever taken against the perpetrator. What we need are tangible outcomes of situations. Calming individuals is all well and good, may even provide a guise of productivity, a guise of safety; but without action, is futile.

  • @dogpound7162
    @dogpound7162 Рік тому +4

    I can remember a time when the public's safety was more important than the safety of the emergency services, doing risk assessments whilst folk bleed out in agony is not acceptable.

    • @SDrizzy
      @SDrizzy Рік тому

      its not a paramedics job to fkn take on terrists, they dont get paid enough as it is, there is a procedure and they follow it you dont go into a situation like that until you are told to do so, all well and good you saying all this sat on your computer in the real world you follow procedure this isnt a movie. youd be suprised how you act in a situation like this vs what youve always imagined. when i was 16 i watched someone get stabbed and the terror i felt cant be described i even considered jumping out the window to get away from it

    • @obiitom
      @obiitom Рік тому +1

      the emergency services are the public, they have a right to life as much as anyone else, they aren't robots we assemble when we need them and if they break throw them in the bin and order a new on from amazon next day delivery, are soldiers just meant to die needlessly or do generals try and make battle plans that reduces risk and maximises safety for their troops?

    • @dogpound7162
      @dogpound7162 Рік тому

      @@obiitom Any decent medic in the army will put the life of a wounded soldier before his own, we all know exactly what this is about, it's about the new agenda of 'risk assessment' woke bullsh#t that stops emergency services helping folk when they need it most. This "devastating report" has not just been imagined, children were left to bleed to death whilst emergency bosses did their risk assessments, people are fed up with this nonsense, I'm sure, given the chance, medics would have gone in straight away to save lives.

    • @law7974
      @law7974 Рік тому +2

      That comment right there shows how out of touch you are, you expect emergency services all to pile in without assessing risks and end up casualties themselves requiring even more resources 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @dogpound7162
      @dogpound7162 Рік тому

      ​@@law7974

  • @PiglipsMaximus
    @PiglipsMaximus Рік тому +1

    The only people to blame is those security guards inside the entrance part. They didn’t want to look racist my asking the bom*er what was in his gigantic backpack. Well because of THOSE security guards not stopping the individual caused what happened. Anything after that you cannot blame anything else

    • @LittleLoz
      @LittleLoz Рік тому

      So the bomber wasn't to blame then?

  • @bigcreator
    @bigcreator Рік тому +2

    Lesson will be learnt, please dont look back in anger, diversity is our strength.

  • @hoobsgroove
    @hoobsgroove Рік тому

    don't be a paramedic if you can't accept any risk, you sign up for this you take the risk what was none. if your a coward don't apply for the job.
    you can make a tourniquet you don't have to have one in a kit, a piece of material from a shirt can be used same if you want to stop major bleeding out by stuffing in the wound as much as possible.
    A picture diagram in first aid kits how to do this, and should be a map as well of the nearest emergency hospitals. And instructions how to control a crowd in a situation in an emergency, how to take leadership of the situation.

    • @slyfoxyandalifesaver
      @slyfoxyandalifesaver Рік тому

      In basic first aid there is something called the Primary Survey ( DRABC ), it is a tool used to ascertain the condition of the patient.
      The Primary Survey goes as follows:
      D - DANGER: >>> You can't help anyone if you're dead!

  • @leah1633
    @leah1633 Рік тому +3

    Don't look back in anger

  • @saltanataskerova8757
    @saltanataskerova8757 Рік тому

    HERE MADRİD NOV BOMBİNGS THAT COLONGE RİCHESTES
    NOV NATİONAL SİNG SAY AND SİTTT

  • @blacklisted4885
    @blacklisted4885 Рік тому +1

    Don't they train for these things

  • @Cruzeoc101
    @Cruzeoc101 Рік тому +2

    It wasn't the emergency services or the government thst let us down, it was the Muslim community

  • @lukemorgan6166
    @lukemorgan6166 Рік тому

    But at least we got funding for thousands of illegal immigrants looking for handouts

  • @belkentens
    @belkentens Рік тому +4

    But I used to clap on my doorstep for these heroes

  • @williamgillbanks5373
    @williamgillbanks5373 Рік тому +2

    These Incompetent Criminals from the Police, Fire Brigade, and Ambulance Service should be on Criminal Trial, the fact they all denied their Duty of care, it will happen again because you can see most mistake are made again and again.

    • @trapset1539
      @trapset1539 Рік тому

      It will happen again because of a lack of border control and security.

    • @elwolf8536
      @elwolf8536 Рік тому

      Fair weather services

  • @SyntaxErr19287
    @SyntaxErr19287 Рік тому +1

    Import 3rd world get 3rd world

    • @LittleLoz
      @LittleLoz Рік тому

      He was british

    • @SyntaxErr19287
      @SyntaxErr19287 Рік тому +1

      @@LittleLoz Hashem Abedi very British name indeed, may I add his parents fled to Libya where they live a carefree life in the sun after radicalising their child :)

    • @LittleLoz
      @LittleLoz Рік тому

      @@SyntaxErr19287 I'm only stating a fact

    • @SyntaxErr19287
      @SyntaxErr19287 Рік тому

      @@LittleLoz and I am stating that things are not so black and white :) you are not helping with the state of this country maybe you should stay quiet

    • @LittleLoz
      @LittleLoz Рік тому

      @@SyntaxErr19287 Or maybe read up on things before commenting so you don't look so foolish

  • @brownflat8837
    @brownflat8837 Рік тому +4

    I have reservations about this “attack” which has never been proven to have occurred and which nobody can question.

    • @caravanstuff2827
      @caravanstuff2827 Рік тому +3

      OK... YOU'VE REJECTED OUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE YOUR OWN... GOOD FOR YOU!!!.🤔😂😂💕🇬🇧🇺🇦

    • @vicisclips4570
      @vicisclips4570 Рік тому

      I hope this is a troll and someone isn't genuinely this stupid.

    • @Mistermopar
      @Mistermopar Рік тому +1

      So what do you think did happen?

    • @chriscjad
      @chriscjad Рік тому +2

      What do you mean it didn’t happen? Are you on glue?

    • @davidz3879
      @davidz3879 Рік тому +2

      There's plenty of evidence. The damage, the dead & the injured.

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers Рік тому +3

    They screwed up Grenfell Tower too.

    • @siras2
      @siras2 4 місяці тому

      Sadly it was the same clipboard checklist mentality. A refusal by senior officers to deputize decision making to someone on the ground is criminally stupid - ask any military man. As I understand it, in such a situation the system currently in place requires the police to take overall command (of all emergency services) - as we've discovered, this simply did not happen. In summary, we hope and expect such people to be brave - and yes, to take occasional risks on our behalf. It seems that senior officers have lost sight of that.

  • @brotherfecil4092
    @brotherfecil4092 Рік тому +2

    Nah no chance, they don’t have my blame, I praise them for their response