9:23 since he already has prime material on field, he can revive a white stone with redmd then synchro into exploder wing dragon, lvl 7 synchro that requires a dragon as synchro material, auto kills anything with same attack or less(similar to catastor but instead of anything that isnt dark, it is, anything else that is 2400 attack or less)
Idk if exploderdragonwing is out. If it is NOBODY AT EPIK know about the card but me. Dragon players probably refuse to make room for it because its too situational.But i hear ya
@@DMCEagles05 part of that is becuz most people dont main deck prime material dragon, both ghostrider and hydropump dont. And only some side deck prime, some dont even main or side. In my opinion, if the dragon player main decks prime, exploder dragon wing is mandatory.
@@LegacyRetroFormats prime material has the same problem as red eyes wyvern, its not a trade in target or a cards of consonance target. Prime is even worse becuz u cant normal summon it then banish it to summon redmd, at least wyvern can do that. So prime is a dead draw. A brick. Its only good if u draw future fusion and didnt draw prime/wyvern, then u mill them with FF so that u will never draw them
Grepher pitch vayu or sirrocco is a 2 turn clock. Vayu has easier access to ddv and making 3 darks. Gotta give it to vayu over bw for ceiling. However, bw cards all do damage and younwont open a hand of rykos and hamsters, making bw lower damage ceiling with higher damage per turn average.
Ddv isn’t actually good vs dragon turbo, u hit white stones but they replace themselves into blue eyes, which is great becuz that means the dragon player wont ded draw into vanilla monsters since i searched them into his hand for him. Ddv hits vortex trooper but that triggers its effect to draw a card. So ddv only hits debri dragon
@shadowdraqon2479 we can agree ddv isn't the "best" vs turbo. I would like to suggest that lingering effects are some of the only interaction points with turbo. While vortex and white stone generate new cards they are not counter as discarded and are not available for cards of consenance or other discard spells. Again, I agree it's not the best, but it's better than a bth.
surprised more dragon players dont try that frog ftk exodus that frogslicer top a big tournament with. Idk how to play it confusing asf but your first turn can take 10 mins so right up advance format players alley prolly too big brain for most advance players tho :D I been liking reaper in vayu alot, a lot of times late gamer when resources are gone he can stall or early game discards usually just end the game.
One thing I noticed about modern yugioh players is that they literally have to check their grave right after they just did. Not shade, but it's like they have the memory of a goldfish lol
BW is stronger then vayu turbo against dragon turbo. Sura can destroy low attack monsters like vortex trooper to summon other bw and kalut is a big problem too.
This is the best match up for dragon turbo imo, u have prime material dragon(or stardust if u can make it) to negate ryko, u have koaki meiru drago to shit on vayu/hamster. Redmd runs over the blackwing synchros.
Also, even if they side in fossil dyna, u can sit on debri dragon/flamvell’s 2000 def and the opponent cant do anything, sirroco/dark grepher/armageddon knight cant run it over. So u get turns to draw into monsters removal, either lightning vortex or treacherous trap hole
This is why I think this mu is so bad. Reaper walls you and give you time. Dyna along oppression and deck devi. So many things that vayu can do that beat dragon turbo. The dragon deck can high roll and win if they see the nuts. It's so damn hard otherwise
Usually hate watching dragon turbo, but a pleasure to occasionally watch them struggle .
I think people want to see it lose
Shout out to dads who play yugioh! I feel those guys.
We have alot of fathers that play Edison at our local
9:23 since he already has prime material on field, he can revive a white stone with redmd then synchro into exploder wing dragon, lvl 7 synchro that requires a dragon as synchro material, auto kills anything with same attack or less(similar to catastor but instead of anything that isnt dark, it is, anything else that is 2400 attack or less)
Idk if exploderdragonwing is out. If it is NOBODY AT EPIK know about the card but me. Dragon players probably refuse to make room for it because its too situational.But i hear ya
@@DMCEagles05 part of that is becuz most people dont main deck prime material dragon, both ghostrider and hydropump dont. And only some side deck prime, some dont even main or side. In my opinion, if the dragon player main decks prime, exploder dragon wing is mandatory.
Really I thought prime material was standard in all dragon turbo decks
@@LegacyRetroFormats prime material has the same problem as red eyes wyvern, its not a trade in target or a cards of consonance target. Prime is even worse becuz u cant normal summon it then banish it to summon redmd, at least wyvern can do that. So prime is a dead draw. A brick. Its only good if u draw future fusion and didnt draw prime/wyvern, then u mill them with FF so that u will never draw them
@@shadowdraqon2479 ah I understand another dead draw
Grepher pitch vayu or sirrocco is a 2 turn clock. Vayu has easier access to ddv and making 3 darks. Gotta give it to vayu over bw for ceiling. However, bw cards all do damage and younwont open a hand of rykos and hamsters, making bw lower damage ceiling with higher damage per turn average.
Great explanation thank you 😊
Ddv isn’t actually good vs dragon turbo, u hit white stones but they replace themselves into blue eyes, which is great becuz that means the dragon player wont ded draw into vanilla monsters since i searched them into his hand for him. Ddv hits vortex trooper but that triggers its effect to draw a card. So ddv only hits debri dragon
@shadowdraqon2479 we can agree ddv isn't the "best" vs turbo. I would like to suggest that lingering effects are some of the only interaction points with turbo. While vortex and white stone generate new cards they are not counter as discarded and are not available for cards of consenance or other discard spells. Again, I agree it's not the best, but it's better than a bth.
surprised more dragon players dont try that frog ftk exodus that frogslicer top a big tournament with. Idk how to play it confusing asf but your first turn can take 10 mins so right up advance format players alley prolly too big brain for most advance players tho :D
I been liking reaper in vayu alot, a lot of times late gamer when resources are gone he can stall or early game discards usually just end the game.
My friend Javi was paired against that frogslicer deck in an online rbet more than a year ago it was a very threatening deck
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One thing I noticed about modern yugioh players is that they literally have to check their grave right after they just did. Not shade, but it's like they have the memory of a goldfish lol
I think it’s because in modern yugioh you constantly have to check your graveyard
BW is stronger then vayu turbo against dragon turbo. Sura can destroy low attack monsters like vortex trooper to summon other bw and kalut is a big problem too.
I’ve struggled against dragon turbo more with vayu then I do with Blackwings
Dragon turbo is just unfair for people playing it, bricks a lot, draws so many cards and still loses
Yup when it goes off it’s the best deck
@@LegacyRetroFormats and that doesn't happen very often, most of time loses for bricking 🧱
This is the best match up for dragon turbo imo, u have prime material dragon(or stardust if u can make it) to negate ryko, u have koaki meiru drago to shit on vayu/hamster. Redmd runs over the blackwing synchros.
Also, even if they side in fossil dyna, u can sit on debri dragon/flamvell’s 2000 def and the opponent cant do anything, sirroco/dark grepher/armageddon knight cant run it over. So u get turns to draw into monsters removal, either lightning vortex or treacherous trap hole
Thanks for you input I appreciate it
Bro got sacked
The reaper hit hurt me 😂
Dyna or oppression both destroy dragon turbo.
What else can we side vs dragon turbo
This is why I think this mu is so bad. Reaper walls you and give you time. Dyna along oppression and deck devi. So many things that vayu can do that beat dragon turbo. The dragon deck can high roll and win if they see the nuts. It's so damn hard otherwise
Yes your the reason I asked the question
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