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AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs Intel i5-9600K - CPU Comparison
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2019
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How does AMD’s new Ryzen 5 3600 CPU compare against Intel’s i5-9600K? I’ve benchmarked games at 1080p and 1440p resolutions to show you the gaming differences, both at stock settings and while overclocked.
I’ve also tested a number of other applications including rendering and video editing software suites like Adobe Premiere. We’ll also compare temperatures and power draw to help you decide which CPU is worth it for you.
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Please note in the graphs at 19:37 the total price is listed as $240 for a 9600K with cooler, this is a mistake and should be $290 like the graphs before it, the dollar per frame value is correct however.
So... what you're saying is... your presentation is "essentially useless." ;0)
Well as much as i agree the 2080Ti to reduce GPU bottle neck is important, i'm puzzled why no reviewer seems to double check with an AMD card. Same thing with Threadripper where Threadripper results were skewed due to a bug in the Nvidia drivers which was fixed months later.
@@Astravall The highest AMD graphics I own is a RX 580, would be pretty pointless to test. The 2080 Ti is the best at the moment, I was willing to buy the best just to do these CPU channels. If AMD ever have the best available, I will happily change, I don't care one way or the other what company makes it.
At Microcenter both CPUs are same price, $199. Bought with a motherboard bundle and it's even cheaper. A hyper 212 evo does very well at cooling the i5-9600k as well, which is usually anywhere from from 25-40$. Just to spread the word... I'm a HUGE supporter of the 9600k for gaming.
www.microcenter.com/product/512485/core-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-37-ghz-lga-1151-boxed-processor
www.microcenter.com/product/608320/ryzen-5-3600-36ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler
u can buy a 9600k at Best Buy for $215 all the time in the US
This is one of the best Ryzen 5 3600 vs Intel i5-9600K - CPU Comparison
so far, all the aspects cover nice and clear. Trust me I have seen so many comparisons.
Thanks!
which CPU would you purchase?
@@Humanoid38 i7 9700k , Aours Master z390 ,corsair 8*2 ddr4 3200, 512 ssd nvme , psu corsair 750w , i want a only gaming pc if u want multitasking go for ryzen 3600 for gaming intel is the best.
@@dickyking7015 but your gaming PC has no GPU. so you game with iGPU?
Yeah iam tired searching so many comparison. This is the best
intel next step :
10th gen core i5 = rebranding i7 8700k
Hell I'd buy it if it were 250 or under.
Same lol
@@hwstar9416 Yup, I was able to buy one from microcenter for 220 and its been great
@@toke9352 yup, but keep in mind the 3600 retails $199. The performance is unparalleled at that price
@@roger5438 8700k is better at gaming tho, so it'll be good competition.
AMD is doing a great job, more competition!
Yeah good to see, we win!
I wish it also did a great job in laptops
@@TabalugaDragon they are doing it now
@@timothysmith30 so how many cores will Zen 2 laptops have?
The Intel CPU looks ugly beside that Ryzen.. That's a big enough warning IMO.
These 'same tier' head to heads with multiple settings & resolutions are awesome. It's a nice way to see the data for two chips.
👍👍👍
Thank you for including scenarios with pbo and manual overclock too.
Ryzen 3600+radeon 5700
My future cpu gpu combo xD
Nice!
under volt to 1.0 and use the bios that was shown on another channel and you will dominate.
jagsfanrick can you share a link please?
@@MrVardano no i posted fake news my bad
@@jagsfanrick only the gpu and not the cpu
Ryzen is ahead in cost/performance ratio, and the MOBO prices weren't even included in the price! Now that's a real winner
Exactly, with the platform cost factored in, it's looking even better for Ryzen. A top grade MSI B450 Tomahawk is only 110, but a similar quality Z390 would cost ~180
And don’t forget CPU cooler. That’s another $30 or so
@@soapa4279 I was about to say that
Can you get 5.1 on a 30$ cooler?
@uP-Andre And then it becomes obsolete in a short amount of time when it starts struggling with newer games because the CPU usage is over the place
I know the leaks were fake, but Intel really does need to enable hyperthreading across their full stack, or at the very least for the mid range and above.
They should release 10nm architecture
It will beat ryzen
I would like to see i5 10600K vs R5 3600X
@@draravindamarched9944 pretty sure the 10K series will be on 14+++. their only hope until 10nm is that they saved all the best 14nm silicon for last and those chips can reach the speeds they need on a lot lest power than their predecessors. that's doubtful. they'll probably cut their losses best they can until they feel comfortable releasing 10nm products.
@@halistinejenkins5289 intel only need to refresh the current mid tier i5 series and i7 9700K.. with HT unlocked and BOOM.. breaks the market .. sighly decrease the price about 20% and atomic bomb, intel doesnt need to match the price with ryzen.. they are better brand, better support overall, full compatibility, bios 100% OK.
Hyperthreading actually hurts my performance while bringing up temps in most of the games that I play like league of legends or path of exile
@@draravindamarched9944 Well yea it will beat current ryzen, but in 2 years amd will be on 5nm and that's probably when intel will launch 10nm
Amazing AMD, keep the competition high and keep kicking ass!
fight fight fight
Pretty comprehensive review! Good job!
For anyone who plays games with Chrome, Discord, Spotify etc in the background can run Ryzen without a hiccup. Probably you'll be able to stream smoothly too. And for lower.
Yeah those extra threads will hold up better long term in actual multi tasking scenarios.
How would this go for heavier productivity tasks with multiple programs open? Say for work or students. Most recommendations i saw said to get at least an i5, so how would the ryzen stack up?
Lars a ryzen 5 3600 is better for multi tasking than the i5 because of the extra threads
No bullsh*t, straight to benchmark results. I love this channel!
Best review ever.
This video deserves more than a million likes.
Just got the 3600 , blown away over the improvements over my r5 1600 , I play alot of older games and the single core performance was limited on 1600 but drastically improved on 3600 , also I can finally play AC origins and Odyssey wirh consistent frametimes and solid minimum fps, gg Amd
And I have a b350 tomahawk (msi) which has 0 issues with 3rd gen
Nice, good to hear!
Thank you for listing the CAS timings of the memory with the MHz speed. One is useless without the other. Well done.
No problem
Why is he always lowering his voice to every end of a sentence?
That gives me anxiety attacks!
Maybe he just sounds like that, I dunno it's really annoying tho, I unsubscribed.
Jarrod'sTech “I unsubscribed “ LOL
I thought he was an AI voice at first, like the male version of Siri ;)
I didnt notice about it until i saw your comment man! Youre right!! I saw it again with no sound
its literally how they taught us English , well for me atleast teachers always told us to lower our voices once we reach a period idk why...
I got nice value and great experience because before upgrade i was b350 user with ryzen apu , going to ryzen 5 3600 it soo dank in gaming no more stuter again
Hey what is your b350 model?
If all you care about is gaming: Intel i5 9600K > AMD Ryzen 3600
I guess.
Meteor Media the 3600 is less and is not that much better in gaming and not worth the extra money
19:55 it's worth mentioning that for a 5.1 GHz overclock on the 9600K you'll probably need a more expensive cooling than 40$, driving the cost up even further.
I did mention that :~)
Just built my first pc featuring a 3600 and rtx 2060 :D
Sounds good!
TX3_ Roby that’s what I was thinking of getting what’s your average FPS on the games you play and what games are they ?
^
TX3_ Roby what cpu cooler did you choose?
What motherboard did you use. I am concerned that the motherboard I get will not be updated to the latest BIOS so it will not work.
I just upgraded my two gaming PCs with the 3600 and gaming is so much smoother and faster than my old 1600 and 1700x. I used to get FPS drops, with gpu usage staying low indicating a CPU bottleneck, especially in ubisoft games like AC Origins/Odyssey and now with the 3600 they are locked at 60 fps nearly all the time. Now when the FPS dips below 60 the GPU usage is 99 i know its because of the GPU and not the CPU.
Nice!
I'm looking to upgrade to r5 3600 and b450 board as well. But I gotta say, even my i5 6600K is still doing good in 2019.
I run Odyssey on high/very high locked to 50 FPS all the time. 1080p with gtx 1660 and 16 gb of ddr4 RAM.
Shadow of the tomb raider as well. 50 FPS locked at ultra.
Games like metro exodus and far cry new dawn also play at ultra but 60 FPS locked.
Even though I overclocked it a bit to 4.2 ghz, I gotta say I'm suprised how well 6600K performs in modern titles with just 4 threads...
This is a GREAT video!
Clear explanations, mastered speech, professional protocols and more.
Thank you so much
+1 sub
Cheers, welcome to the channel!
I don't get why people don't do these benchmarks with more demanding games like Warhammer 2, or games that the CPU actually matters much more on..
Feel free to be the one that does that on your channel.
This guy answered almost 1000 comments from his video, keep up the good work, god!
B450+ryzen 3600 is enough for me
Yeah good combo
@@JarrodsTech is b450 good for 3600 or do You need flash bios can You give me some mother board names And some cheap 470 If no flash bios update would be nice too many choises internet And store i am getting are mostly noobs dont know anything ☺️
@@iamthegamer908 if you basically dont know much i think you just wait for b550 later, or you can buy b450 from MSI (mortar or pro carbon especially) then open youtube to see how to flash bios. I actually didnt know whether it need flash bios or just plug and play for b450.
@Musherva yeah for me i should wait b550, so later b450 will having price drop, then it will really good for budget gamer like me 🤣
I have build my own pc abaut 10 years know What So many difrent answers on internet know i did my last mb bios flash update its easy but many say You need update And others say tou dont need update bios 🤔😱😁
you can get a 3700x for the price of 9600k + cooler. Plus a 110 usd b450 tomahawk is plenty for that cpu :D
Nice, didn't consider that upgrade as a point
I would still argue putting money into a better gpu at that point would be better, but I'm thinking having 2 more cores maybe is better for the future(in the case of 3700x). Also aren't AMD coolers louder ? I'd buy a good quiet cooler anyway, just so I can also use it during the next upgrade cycle.
@@pulkmees This is the most biased comment, just admit that the 3600 is better overall.
9600K is 200 gbp on amazon.
3700x is 250 gbp on amazon.
u wot?
@@ricekoo4831 it's not actually. The 3600 comes with a crappier cooler than the 1600 did to save money. Less pipes so it is louder which being a newer model looks bad imo.
Most games don't use hyper threading, but when you add streaming and video recording when playing. Then you will see the 5 3600 pull head of the i5 9600k.
Thanks for your video.
I ended up buying the 3600X as they had no 3700X in stock... Seems good enough so far. I got 2X 8GB 3200mhz ram sticks and the gigabyte b450 aorus elite motherboard and the GPU is the gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 TI, was playing Forza Motorsport 6 apex and Forza Horizon 3 today on high graphics and they both run really smooth and look amazing. I set FH3 to 60fps but trying to setup msi afterburner to display live on screen display.. Seems like a nice build so far. I used my old liquid CPU cooler too.
No problem! Good to hear it's going well, sounds like a good combo you have there.
Great thorough comparison (honestly the best I've seen so far) 👌
Gaming: i5 | Gaming+Streaming/Everything else: Ryzen
Sounds reasonable 🤔
@Sot rru I'll make it less confusing
Intel's Core i5 = Gaming
Ryzen: Gaming + Streaming and Everything else
Going to upgrade my I7 2600K to a Ryzen 5 3600 once they come back in stock, it and some motherboards have been kinda hard to find recently. Guess I'm not the only one upgrading!
Nice, let us know how it goes!
Buying a 6c/6t CPU is just not a good idea in 2019.
Unless you get it for free :)
@@pocpc1788 buying, dude.
If you upgrade and sell your CPU every year it's not a big deal. 6 cores 12 threads more than enough for gaming right now
If you only game it's still decent.
@@Rasyad95 I bought it for free
Very nice review like always, gonna buy the 3600 with a second hand 1080 ti.
It's a good combo. It's what I'm currently running.
@@lunchbox437 Lol Same setup here too! Rocking a Asus Prime x470 pro Mobo as well.
I have this setup and it is awesome, I got a gigibite x570 too for some futureproofing
gonna be running a very similar setup with a 3600 and 2080.
Nick B really tempted in getting an MSI x570 but i might wait for b550 which should come out around the 3950x
Thanks for the good comparison, as always!
That was very helpful.
I'm on Ryzen 1600 now, and thought about switching to i5 9600K with new motherboard, but I see now that Ryzen 3600 is more preferable for me, with lower cost and not much lower results in games.
So thank you!
No problem at all!
i'm only a fanboy of Price & Performance & when i walked into my local Micro center i managed to put together for $926.- Ny dollars : deepcool matrexx 55 tempered glass with 4 Rgb decent fans Atx Case + Ryzen 5 3600 CPU + 16gb ddr4 3000 + Asrock b450m pro4 gaming + intel 660p 512gb Mvne M.2 ssd + Evga 600w 80+ gold Psu + Msi Rtx 2060 8gb Super Ventus Gpu + few other features that i couldn't do in early 2019 & in return i got a Sweet 1440p / 1080p beast at under 1 Grand 🎮 Just amazing what Competition can do for us end users & Thanx for Posting 🇵🇹
Nice!
excellent work man. i may grab a next gen ryzen chip if they take the gaming crown next time around. curious to see intel's answer or if they even have one before the "next" ryzen release. thumbs up as always!
Thanks!
Asrock phantom gaming 6 z390
Rtx 2070 super
i5 9600k
I went with intel because the motherboard that had all the features that I want was cheaper than the x570 counterpart and I really don’t do anything other than gaming and homework
Fair enough
Bottleneck
Ryzen CPUs are now the perfect for production works. Much affordable and faster.
Yeah decent pick for that
well……… not perfect for surface laptop 3
wait i thought he boost clock was 4.2 ghz for the ryzen and you said it was overclocked, i think there was a mistake at 2:22
Got myself b450i + 3600 + 2070 super.
If you try to buy used pc now, all you can get is intel cpu-s and low end 2080's for higher price than buying this combination brand new.
What kind of fps are you getting in games? This was my plan too
How bout the temps of the cpu do share
not bad i would have went 3600x for better cooler and some extra mhz or more likely 3700x(for threads cuz i do stuff besides gaming) and 5700xt.(powerplay table overclocking is awesome) I was acually going to get 2070s but now i'm waiting for 5700xt aib card or any info on 5800/xt
So true, I am on 1151and wanted to upgrade my weak-ass i5 6500. Used i7 6700 and 7700 are _more expensive_ then _new_ 2600 and 3600!!! Those sad people think these processors are still some sort of top tier like 2-3 years a go.
Intel - Gaming
Amd - Literally each and every other thing perfectly balanced hmm.. this makes me so confused but I’m going with the ryzen 5 3600 because of multitasking, better streaming experience but ofc with a nvidia gpu ( rtx 2060 super oc 8gb)
Fair enough, sounds like a reasonable choice!
Just purchased a 3600 myself :) upgrading from a 2200g
Nice! Same motherboard I assume? Such a cool upgrade path, bios update and drop in replacement
Jarrod'sTech if I play games and use google chrome should i go with Intel then?
I'm switching from the 2600 to the 3600
Not worth lol :d
@@deadscene1 true
Angel Petrov if u sell the other one for 110 bucks it’s only a 100 bucks.
imma wait for 3990x xdd
@Jarrod's Tech Thank you very much for this detailed video. You were shared to us even Lowest and Medium settings Gaming Benchmark Results. SUBSCRIBED !!! :)
No problem, welcome to the channel!
Saw first time JT ❤️ the way you did the comparison loved it specially for including lowest settings for e-sports games ... Would definitely recommend to others ... Keep it up 👍 dude
Another advantage of the Ryzen 5 3600: If you are on a budget and care more about productivity than gaming, you can get the R 5 2600 for quite good prices now - new or used. While it's not as powerful as the 3600, it is still a budget performance beast.
Yeah that's a good point, will probably compare those two later too 😎
Standing ovation for the making such a deatiled comparison video. This must have consumed so much time.
Thank you for this very complete benchmark. Great work.
Thanks!
Upgraded GPU from GTX 1050ti to RTX 2070 and will upgrade from Fx-6300 to R5 3600 next month. Had the Fx-6300 for over 6 years now and i was happy with it but now it's really old and outdated.
First use will be Skyrim modding, although the I5 would be slightly better for this because of better single core performance, but the R5 3600 will be better overall. Gotta need a new Mainboard and Ram too though.
Thank you for the video.
Nice, big upgrade! Happy to help 👍
No one:
Intel Years Later : 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It be like that
Do Zen 2 CPU's work with B450 motherboards? I'm confused.
Yes, after a BIOS update, which may depend on the vendor and whether they've provided updates.
@@JarrodsTech I see. Thank you and keep up the great work mate.
No problem, cheers!
Even some a320 boards will work.
@@BudgetGamerz Thanks man. I'm thinking of building a PC later this year, that's why I asked
Nice review. I heard Ryzen 3600 will have better 0.1% lows than the i5 which will make less likely to get a stutter now and in future games. That’s my reason for choosing 3600. Just wonder how it competes to 3600x.
Fair enough, yeah will be interesting to see, unfortunately I couldn't justify buying both so picked the cheaper one
Jarrod'sTech good content. Keep em coming. Subscribed.
Thanks, welcome to the channel! I actually heard that I will be able to borrow a 3600X from AMD once I return from holiday, so should be able to compare in future.
I appreciate your effort to ensure that you try to limit the variables establishing a pretty good control across the two different configurations. Props.
I5 9600k best choice for overclockers gamers 3600 or 3600x best choice for gaming/rendering without big overclocks
i5 9600k OC is also the better choice if you play mainly Paradox games
@@byRapt0r why tho literally the same per clock power.
I'm still waiting for a good priced M.2 NvME 1TB SSD drive to replace my old 256 go drive
check out the adata XPG SX8200, same performance as the top tier samsung but a lot less money!
Transcend 220S, HP EX920, XPG SX8200 Pro are all good and reasonably priced.
Sabrent 1tb $109 on Amazon
@@Z34_TR Umm interesting. Is it reliable? My friend suggested me SN750 by WD Black and Samsung 970 Evo/Evo Plus 1TB
Richard Zhang yup 2 of my buddies are running them and one had an older sabrent ssd he had for 3 years until he just upgraded theyre honestly a great deal i wish i wouldve boughten two instead of my 970 evo nvme 250gb and 860 evo sata ssd that i have I couldve had more storage and higher read and write speeds for the same price
I have selfbuild desktop of which 9600K (at (+/-)5.2 GHz) & 2080Ti (with +/-150 MHz@core and 1000 MHz@memory overclock's) are rammed on MAXIMUS XI GENE. Parts were chosen a while back: before started to see articles about 8 or more cores optimized games. It still seems to be working properly on gaming at 100 Hz with 3440 x 1440 resolution though, but only if temp files deleted and all programs closed on background. Both CPU & GPU also having their own cooling circulation, but as XI GENE is mATX there's room for pumps etc 15x 120mm fans inside the case.
Although FPS is (still) amazing, I believe it's about to change when more and more new AAA games are optimized to utilize over 6 cores.
It's not a bad CPU generally for gaming (and works wonders in games I normally avoid) with it's 6 cores and threads, as it overclocks so well. I doubt it would OC with 12 threads without too much heat and so small cache (L3 being only 9MBytes)
5.35GHz is when my equipment threw it's hands up but I'm sure it would stay stable at 5.5 GHz with correct equipment. But I've always had Intel it has sort of become a religion for me, with its own savior that created my faith on the brand and stuff but starting to run out of excuses to not denounce "the religion" soon...
...Even though the new threadripper with 64 cores/128 threads costs some $3 500 so it's not spreading widely enough for game manufacturers to begin optimizing games to utilize for like, 50 cores...
(The savior is obviously my about 6 years old i7-5960X that's still perfectly capable of throwing frames at 100Hz 1440p even after it's been OC'd to 4.5 GHz ((basic 3 GHz + 1.5 GHz OC, or 50% CPU basic clock increase!)) for 6 years soon. That heroic and stable little genius CPU also been on the liquid nitrogen boarding aka LN2 torture on several occasions in the past, as being tested by the machine God, so if there's slight dementia it only becomes martyrdom... 😅)
It's funny that people keep crying about "Intel always breaking its TDP", but when 65w TDP Ryzen draws 20w more than 95w TDP Intel CPU (obv stock vs stock), they say nothing.
(I know that TDP isn't even supposed to indicate the maximum power draw, and that the 3600 is way more efficient).
ryzen tdp rating at boost clock while intel rating at base clock (info from ltt/hardware unboxed . i forget which 1)
they also mention if using x570 will consume more power in total system usage due to x570 chipset consume about 15w
thats why u see intel power draw jump up more significantly than ryzen when overclock
@@burgerlicious1727 Ryzen's TDP is clearly not at boost clock. Look at Gamers Nexus' R5 3600 review. They measured power draw numbers straight from the EPS12v connector, so it's only CPU draw.
The 65w 3600 draws 79.2w at stock in Blender, which is 21.6w more than the power draw of 95w 8600k's 57.6w.
Similar story with other Ryzen CPUs, 65w TDP R7 3700x draws 87w (4.2w less than 95w 9900k, which draws 91.2w).
105w TDP 3900x draws 147.6w too.
87k subscribers these days? I remember you having a few k subscribers.
Me too!
Nice to see him grow 50% extra in 4 months.
is it ok to go with card like rtx 2080 ti with entry level r5 3600? I think it should be at least r7 3700x
if u play at 1440p is ok, the 3600 is very strong cpu.
Yeah, for 1080p 240Hz it might actually be better to go Intel, but for literally anything else the ryzen 5 works well. Even then, if you're getting 260fps on Intel and 240fps on AMD, and your screen only hits 240Hz, there's no difference in gameplay, and zen is cheaper too.
I think you should be fine with an r5 but if you're going as far as a 2080ti i think you might as well go all the way to an r7. Do keep in mind though that the new 3000 series are meant to be used on the new x570 mdb's, which are somewhat costly. You can get away with an b450 or something as long as you upgrade the bios, but due to the higher power pulled by the cpu in comparison to the "old" 2k models, this might effect the lifespan of the board. This is probably less of a problem on the r5 3k's then the r7 3k's, but of this i'm not 100% sure.
StaleCoffee real gamers have discord open sometimes stream music so Ryzen wins
@@stalecoffee6454 AMD is also very good for 240hz
How much core voltage did u give for the 5.1 ghz?
my 9600k runs fine on 1.3v with 5.0ghz
but anything more than 1.3v is too hot for my cpu set up...
Honestly don't recall at this point, maybe 1.35, I often use that a lot.
I don’t unterstand why everybody says the 3600x is better than the i5. The Fps are better on the i5. If you want to game buy a i5 if you want to do rendering and stuff go for a 3600x i guess. In my County they cost the same so I will go for i5 9600k + 5700xt even though I do appreciate Amd‘s work and thought long about buying an amd processor
Life isn't just about FPS though, many people do more than just play games. Even if you do game, not everyone is willing to pay more money for a little extra performance. The 3600 is better value in terms of dollar per frame and still runs games just fine, not everyone needs to pay more for the best.
Jarrod'sTech you are right :) and it is good That there is competition
For me I’ll go for AMD for more competition that will make Intel products lesser on price. I chose Ryzen 5 2600 since it’s mid end and Tomahawk Max B450M
(I chose AMD for its price and performance not just for competition)
Fair enough!
Got my i5 9600k for 200 at microcenter, also may look at upgrading the wife's machine from a 2600 to maybe a 3600 or 3700, may do my own comparison also!
Just to make fan boys eyes bleed I pair an Intel CPU with an amd GPU (sapphire Vega 64) and an amd cpu with an Nvidia GPU (msi gaming x gtx 1660 ti)
Nice!
Good review. A few interesting Points: Don`t know about the prices where you live, but translated to USD the cheapest combo you can get With the 3600 beats the 9600K by a large margin where I live. Most A320-boards have now gotten BIOSes that supports the 3600 and it runs without throttling on the ones I have seen, ram-OC Works fine aswell, for instance running 3733cl18 micron-ram on a Asus A320m-K worked fine in a video I saw. The absolute cheapest Z390-board that really supports good OC (Gigabyte Z390UD) where I live costs 150 USD where I live, decent cooler about 50USD, and the 9600K costs 270USD so 470USD for the Whole package With OC-potential up to about 5GHz. The cheapest A320 Board cost 60USD, 3600 cost 240USD so a total of 300 vs 470USD With about 5% higher gamingperformance since the setups I chose performs very similar to a X570-board. You can make the 9600K a lot cheaper With a B360 for 80USD, a 20USD cooler, but there is no overclocking and ram is Limited to running max 2666 (you can tweak timings, but compared to higher speed it provides Limited gains. The absolute cheapest I can go where I live is about 370USD and then the performance of the 3600 is better due to no OC and slow ram. In my point of view the 3600 is extremely impressive for it`s price and Intel has nothing even Close in terms of performance vs price :)
I would get a b450 for 3600 , a320 is just... Cheap.
so for video editing and 3dDesign considering my low budget should i go for AMD ?
because i heard that the stuff you have to combine with AMD will cost you more then intel
motherboard prices for example i dont know ..
Yeah the higher thread count will probably be an advantage for rendering workloads. You can still run the 3600 on a cheaper B450 motherboard as long as it's been updated for Ryzen 3000 series support, you don't necessarily need an expensive X570.
I suggest you go for Tomahawk Max or Mortar Max
The problem is that the cl14 ram are very expensives too.
Thanks AMD because Now I can buy my Intel Chips at better price! 😆
and... here i am with intel pentium dual core with 2gb ram and 1gb gpu 🤣
big oof
@@JarrodsTech forgot to add it runs on arch with i3wm = 🔥
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Is i5 10300h good enough for schoolwork, browsing at high speeds and gaming?
Hey jarrod! What about medium range GPUs? Since most of the gamers here pair the r5 and i5 with rtx 2060 or gtx 1070. Would a ryzen 5 3600 still be needed as an upgrade if you have a ryzen 5 2600?
If the 2600 still does fine for you then no, though I'd expect it to still be a fair upgrade as I'm seeing the 3600 even beat my 2700x, unfortunately I don't own a 2600 to compare with though. As for lower end GPU hard to talk specifics as have not tried yet
@@JarrodsTech good point, but what about if you pair it with medium range gpus? I've been checking on 2600 vs 3600 benchmarks with rtx 2060 and gtx 1070 and it seems like there's little to no difference in fps increase. If i upgrade soon, is it better if i just upgrade my gpu instead? I mainly game and do some light editing
Couldn't say, have only tested with 2080 Ti to reduce GPU bottleneck and show CPU differences.
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and i love how the 3600 has a stable fps in all settings XD thats a bit troll
I don't know how Intel's next release will be, but the choice is obvious. R5 3600 for gaming and rendering unless you really want to overclock to 5GHz+ for gaming.
Yeah seems like it
@@JarrodsTech Yay I didn't think you would reply!
awesome review with detailed information thanks mate!
Cheers!
Thanks AMD so that I can afford Intel
heh
Intel HQ: Reduce all the prices dammit! NOW!
Ur amazing when you comes to tecH !!!
Cheers!
@@JarrodsTech cheers 🍻
@@JarrodsTech hey overall ryzen is better ? In my country both are similar in prize !!
Depends what you're doing, between these CPUs there's not much difference in gaming, and outside of gaming the Ryzen is ahead.
With the effort you put in this video you deserve much more likes
Thanks!
I’m going with a R5 3600 and a 2060 super, Can’t wait!
Wokko nice I’m gonna go R5 3600 rtx 2070 😊
Jay Galbraith oh niceeee I’ve just upgraded to the 2070 super as well, gonna love it 🤩
Theyre gonna make an i12 with 16 cores watch
lol
i11
amd is the way better value, hands down!!!
Yeah seems to be the case.
Actually no.
Yeah definitely. Intel is now the enthusiast choice (for gaming), where value doesn't matter anymore and you want the best regardless.
@@sonic344ify Actually yes.
Take care about how expensive cl14 ram are
I got a used 8600K for 150€ compared to 180€ for a 3600 and didn't have to switch to an AM4 motherboard. I'm just gaming so the i5 wins for me. I would probably have gone for AMD if I didn't already have a reall good Intel motherboard. I love what AMD is doing right now though and hope their Single-Core performance improves to match Intels with the next generation.
Nice one, yeah fair enough makes sense.
I've come across a very good deal for a TUF B450M Gaming (asus) motherboard and a 3600X for literally 40% off on both and went ahead and got them for the sake of "why not". Man, this cheap MB and the 3600X really ran like clockwork with a pair of Predator RAM at 3600Mhz. I would have never believed how far you can go with just a small amount of cash now that AMD has stepped in and challenged Intel! Honestly for about $350 you can go a loooong way with regards to gaming nowadays.
Nice deal!
The 9600k is definitely not worth it for 100€ more if we include the cooler.
Yeah agreed
But what about the cl14 ram. They are the expensives
lol 5.1ghz oc how unlikely for the rest of us
Can't say, mine worked no problem so 🤷♂️
I have Ryzen 5 3600x. Just perfect for my work and I can do gaming too.
Sounds good!
Greetings Jarrod. Are you planning to review the i9 variant of either the AERO 15 or XPS 15? So far I have heard that the AERO 15 i9 is absolutely horrendous at thermals. Would definately appreciate your take on this.
Laughing my butt off at the way you start every sentence high and your pitch falls through it, ending low. 😁
This video is a comedy.
6 threads, yuk.
A lot of AMD CPU owners get really defensive when benchmarks come up. Just look at the dislikes. Can anyone explain this phenomenon? Disclaimer: I use an AMD CPU. but like, I don't feel threatened but other CPUs. Hahaha.
Excellent work btw Jarrod, since I figure you'll probably see this. Awesome stuff. PC people don't deserve you
im so confused these benchmarks for the most part basically show how much better amd is for the money so why would amd users get mad?
@@SuperKorenman blue bar on graph longer than red bar, I guess
@@kylerclarke2689 it took longer then half the video for Intel to be slightly better still for the money amd is obviously better only in a few instances did Intel beat out amd in a way that wasnt negligible
This is all good, but we have to give Ryzen 3rd gen chips few months to mature, because it may enahnce their performance significantly.
someone has already under volted the 3900x and wow it boosted performance at 1.0 volts...crazy good.
@@jagsfanrick can you give me the link, please ?
@@feixas6961 his channel name is "Optimum tech", but it seems he has removed the video
@@jagsfanrick he took it down because there were performance drops at that voltage
@@rdmz135 Yep my bad
50$ for 4 fps...lul...
Exactly, yet people are still commenting "Intel better for gaming" lol
That's a bit weird, why would the i5 pull ahead at 1440p, compared to 1080p, you'd think you're more gpu bound.
yea, even linus is bit skeptical about the benchmarks.
The only logical explanation I can think of, is that some games are designed towards Intel’s architecture (also because of their shitty monopoly the past decade.) Otherwise yes that makes no sense.
Oh and maybe something is weird with Jarrod’s testing methodology.
Great test. There is difficult to find hardware comparison in aps, not only games!
I'm working with vector graphic aps, like Adobe illustrator, or CAD's. The aps uses single thread for 95% operations. But it is hard to find single thread CPU tests.
On cpubenchmark . net I found also single thread scores. But I'm not sure about they testing method. R5-3600 and other R have very high rating. 3600 has 2813 points and i5-9600K has 2680 points.
You should use 3600X, to compare overclocked CPUs. Now the comparison of overclocked 9600K to 3600 has no sense.
I don't understand what you're suggesting, you can overclock the 3600, the X doesn't = overclock capabilities. I've ocverclocked both and done the same tests comparing the 3600 and 3600X here, the conclusion was basically the 3600X is a waste of money: ua-cam.com/video/3cjbBDCJxRk/v-deo.html
this fellas accent is getting to me haha. it's cool i mean.
he says to and two, in the same sentence and they sound so much different.
cheers Jarrod
Welcome to the Australian accent 😎
@@JarrodsTech since I have your attention. Should I upgrade my 2600 to a 3600 for that single core performance and boosted performance in all the e sports type games i play?
Wiggy Pop Nope, you don’t have his attention lol
@@JarrodsTech I thought you were British
So, to summarize, the R5 3600 costs less, comes with a decent cooler, performs around 40% better in productivity tasks (25% once both are overclocked).
The i5 9600K on the other hand costs more initially, comes without a cooler, so that brings the cost up immediately, and the only thing going for it is that it is around 5% better at stock for gaming which increases a bit once OC'd but then again both of them deliver the exact same experience, and the numbers we see are only relevant for testing purposes. No one is going to notice that one CPU runs at something like 150fps and the other at 130fps, since it's not the same percentage as if it was something like 60fps vs 40fps which is huge. Once your FPS is in the hundreds the experience is smooth no matter how you look at it.
On top if it, you literally have to OC the 9600K in order for that CPU to have any sense and to keep things competitive, and at that point it even sucks quite a bit more power.
I guess 9600K is a decent product and a good performer on its own, but it just doesn't hold up against 3600 at its price point.
Sounds like a fair summary!
@@JarrodsTech ❤️
What about ONLINE games that are notorious for leaning way more to the CPU side rather than the GPU ??? Also I' ve read that with intel although you get more fps you're more likely to experience stuttering ?? great video btw ^__^
Not sure, there's a reason people don't test games like that often, difficult to accurately reproduce for comparable results. Not sure about the stuttering thing, I guess depends if the game actually utilizes more threads or not.
Here's the basic guide:
Gaming with other tasks such as everyday use, maybe some video editing or rendering from time to time - I5 8600K
Rendering and Video Editing a lot and some gaming - Ryzen 5 3600
Intel is better in terms of gaming, and still does fine with things like video editing, rendering, daily usage etc, but if gaming is not the priority, I'd go for the AMD, as it's still fine in games, but the threads are really useful.
Sounds like a reasonable summary
why do u come up with the 8600k exactly? 9th gen is the timeline accurate pairing to the 3600
@@lemusz9750 Because the 9600K is no different than the 8600K. It's literally 1fps higher.
Many PC builders here in my country were like "AMD YES", "AMD nice" etc. Even though I am using a Intel chip, I still agree that AMD does better in terms of pricing and performance.
What ever works for you, as long as it's going good that's all that really matters.
I even purchased the Red Devil 5700xt with my Ryzen 3600x. Most system builders don't really know the finer points of a PC. Of course, I've had zero driver issues with my AMD GPU. Beast of a machine, especially with a gen 4.0 M.2 on X570.
Your info chart at the start says Ryzen comes with a cooler yet you didn't put down that Intel comes with inbuilt graphics for emergency situations
Realistically, you'll never really need the integrated graphics but the cooler is something that everyone can benefit from
@@dumbdickler670 Idiot, I'm saying it should be on the chart because that chart and these videos are Ryzen biased if its missing useful info
@@BlueBird-wb6kb nice, I see you beat me because I'm an idiot
I did not see it as relevant to the comparison, especially when I said you could get the KF version too.
Now that the i5 9600k is around $20 cheaper than the 3600, is it worth picking up instead of 3600? Or is the lack of hyperthreading a no go? What is hyperthreading anyway and what does it affect?
Talking about great video
This must have taken you so much time
Good job 👍
Thanks!
Between Ryzen 5 or 6 and Intel i5 9th or 10th, which one is much better for data science or big data analysis? Please give me advice. Thanks.