The MOTHERS of Horror

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
  • Happy Mother's Day, Boneheads! Today, we talk about some mothers who make your own look even better by comparison.
    This video was edited by / josephsmkpng , who also made the thumbnail!
    Thank you all so much for 19k subscribers. We're unbelievably close to 20k, barely half a year after I started posting. What a crazy time it has been...
    (a minor note- when referring to the Other Mother in the intro, we accidentally used the word "Beldum" instead of "Beldam". I just want to clarify that the other mother is a malicious old woman, and not a Pokemon.)

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  • @CybenX_yt
    @CybenX_yt 6 місяців тому +373

    happy mother's day, connor's mom!

  • @TheAbigailDee
    @TheAbigailDee 6 місяців тому +319

    The true horror of all of these stories is the knowledge that Toni Collette and Essie Davis were not SHOWERED with awards and accolades from major institutions for their performances in Hereditary and The Babadook respectively!!

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +21

      you’re so right

  • @lyna7614
    @lyna7614 3 місяці тому +55

    As a Hereditary fan, and, yes, this is harsh. I believe Charlie's death is Annie's fault. Not only did she brush off under a rug the fact that the party Peter would attend would be unsafe, but she also got argumentative when both Charlie and her son said it would be unsafe. Charlie did not want to be there, as Peter said during that iconic argument scene.
    Byt what I can't help to see is a mother so immature and incapable of keeping her children safe, that she switches the blame upon everyone but her

    • @diamond9030
      @diamond9030 2 місяці тому +5

      Yes! Thank you! I was starting to think I was the only one who thought this way

    • @zeroace323
      @zeroace323 24 дні тому +1

      exactly this, there's genuinely no other place to try and shift blame which is why I think she's SO eager and aggressive in pushing the blame onto peter cause if it's not HIS fault then whose fault would it be, yaknow ? it's such a heavy weight to try and carry as a parent that it almost feels impossible for her to try and accept the fact that she directly pushed and pushed and pushed for peter to take charlie and in turn it ended up getting her own daughter killed 😭 ultimately though, everyone else was against charlie going with peter to that party and she was the only one with the power to force him to take charlie there... like yes he should've watched her better but overall she wouldn't and shouldn't have been there in the first place

  • @StuffedPillows
    @StuffedPillows 6 місяців тому +256

    There’s a manga I read a long time ago that for the life of me I can’t remember what it’s about or what it’s called but a series of panels has stuck with me for years. A child, maybe a toddler or close to that age, is walking with their mother though a park and is having trouble keeping up. From the perspective of the child you see the figure of the mother get smaller and smaller as she gets farther away until you can’t see her anymore and the fear of being lost settles in. But then you do catch up to her. I think she stopped to wait and she’s facing away. When she turns around the look of hatred and anger on her face feels like being struck. The relief of reuniting and feeling safe is completely blown away with an ever starker feeling of dread from having that perceived safety net of your parents love and care being suddenly torn away without any warning. Even though I can’t remember anything else from that manga I think about that feeling all the time

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +59

      I think I heard about that in a Super Eyepatch Wolf vid!

    • @Nameless-ny8nk
      @Nameless-ny8nk 6 місяців тому +35

      That kinda sounds like Chi no wadachi / Blood on the tracks to me, but I haven't read it in years so I'm not sure

    • @feliciaroseantonia
      @feliciaroseantonia 6 місяців тому +39

      This is honestly such a perfect illustration of abusive parents, more specifically abusive mothers. It's obviously the mother's responsibility to make sure the child doesn't get lost; there's nothing stopping her from holding her child's hand, having them walk in front of her, or perhaps even just carrying them for some time. So the way the child is literally just left behind just goes to show that she does not care about their well-being. She knows that, God forbid, someone could have snatched her child away, but she's still willing to put them in that sort of danger just for the sake of her own selfishness.
      Then there's the rage she directs towards her child once they've caught up to and found her again. The, what sounds like, extreme scolding, as if the whole situation was the child's fault, even though it is very obviously the other way around. But that's where the horror really comes in (well, aside from the part where, again, the child could have been kidnapped or something moments prior).
      The horror being that, from our perspective as adults or perhaps teenagers, we know the logic of the situation & thus can tell it's her fault, not the child's. But there's no way a child in that situation would be able to know that. And from the child's perspective, their mother is basically kind of lowkey God to them, in a sense. So imagine you're so small and helpless, still so emotionally raw to all of the senses of this humongous world around you, and the ONE person (if not one of the only people) you have constantly been told to listen to & trust, the ONE person who has always made it seem like they love you more than anything, even if only when other people are around.
      That one person... isn't relieved to see you're safe and sound. Because if she was, then her first reaction upon seeing you would have been something along the lines of hugging you and going, _"Oh my God, thank goodness you're okay! Don't scare me like that again, please, alright? I'm so sorry I lost sight of you. Let's do our best to make sure this doesn't happen again."_ But instead, her immediate first reaction is to be hostile and brutal, completely shattering any sense of security the child thought they had in their home life (more or less, depending on whatever other relatives they may have). It makes it clear that she values people THINKING she's a good mother _much_ more than the actual safety of her child. Meaning, she was never concerned about actually being a good mother; she just wants everyone to praise her for being one, even though she's clearly not one, and she knows it.
      And yes, I'll just go ahead and say it, since by this point it's probably pretty obvious given how I've phrased things & such; I say this from my own experience of having grown up with a biological mother that turned out to be a straight up predator. I got out of that situation years ago, thankfully. -(And before you ask, yes, the cops were called multiple times throughout the years, and nothing was done. I tried to move out as early as when I was 15 but couldn't do so until I was 20. I was then homeless for two and a half years living in shelters until I finally got my own apartment at 22. I'm now 24; I've been in therapy basically since I was 16 but unfortunately have had to stop somewhat recently due to insurance issues. It's a long story. I've been working on it though with some assistance thankfully & hope to start up therapy again soon.)-
      This exact same thing can also happen just as much in fathers, of course, but that tends to be overlooked by folks a lot (not saying that about anyone here though); it's a misogynistic double standard that it's normal for men to more or less abandon their kids because they "can't help it" or something, meanwhile women (of color especially) are sometimes seen as neglectful for just simply not being of upper-middle class wealth. But perhaps that's a different conversation for a different time.

    • @msross4424
      @msross4424 6 місяців тому +4

      I believe that scene is from Inside Mari!

    • @s0Shi
      @s0Shi 6 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like Trail of Blood (or Blood on the Tracks as someone already pointed out)

  • @PercivalQyou
    @PercivalQyou 6 місяців тому +226

    Coraline absolutely disturbed me as a teenager

    • @derekmatzek9551
      @derekmatzek9551 6 місяців тому +8

      I showed that movie to my cousin when she was like 5, I don’t know why I thought that was a good idea

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@derekmatzek9551😂😂😂 that's like my cousins showing my some of the Leprechaun movies!!

    • @HunterAllen-jb7hl
      @HunterAllen-jb7hl 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@RealBradMilleromg my nanna showed me those when i was like 6 😂 you just unlocked a memory for me thank you man.

  • @mikeleddyphoto
    @mikeleddyphoto 6 місяців тому +108

    “Take a longer look near O”
    P is the next letter, and the demon in the film is Paimon!

  • @troin3925
    @troin3925 6 місяців тому +148

    _mother!_ is definitely supposed to be a religious allegory (specifically the Book of Genesis, the atrocities of human history and God's relationship with Mother Earth), in a way, it's almost kind of like a reimagining of Begotten even though the similarity is a coincidence (the movie is simultaneously more down to Earth than Begotten, at least in terms of presentation, but is also just as dreamlike and nightmarish but in a completely different way). If you look at the credits, you'll notice that Him is the only character with a capital letter, which is supposed to make it clear that he's God. A lot of people in the comments thought that Rosemary's Baby would've been a more appropriate choice than _mother!,_ but what's kind of funny is that the marketing for the movie gave the impression that it would have a similar premise, with even one of the posters being an homage to the poster for Rosemary's Baby.

  • @theearthboundsatyr
    @theearthboundsatyr 6 місяців тому +64

    I was an adult in my 20s already when Coraline was published, but it reminded me of my parents. I have a PTSD diagnosis from my childhood abuse.

    • @theearthboundsatyr
      @theearthboundsatyr 6 місяців тому +13

      And that dinner table monologue in Hereditary feels exactly like something my mother would do. I was nauseous and shaky after I saw it for the first time.

  • @VinusseyBeats
    @VinusseyBeats 6 місяців тому +62

    For me, something that makes mothers so important in our lives is the sense of protection that they bring, and i think that that aspect really shines in stories like Stranger Things, in wich Will's mom does everything in her power to save her son. So for me, what makes stories like Coraline so scary is that giant twist in the concept of motherhood, when the figure that brings safety is suddenly the villain. Taking something that should protect you and use it to hunt you.

  • @renmage2311
    @renmage2311 6 місяців тому +64

    I wasnt scared by the Coraline movie, though I do love it, but I was TERRIFIED by the book. It was the other-mother's disembodied hand. It kept me up at night for months.

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +14

      The book is a whole different beast…

    • @DFTBA221B
      @DFTBA221B 6 місяців тому +7

      Someone bought Coraline for me for my 12th birthday. My mom decided to read it first because the cover looked "A bit spooky"...and promptly held the book out of reach on top of her dresser for the next two years. She was absolutely right to do so.

    • @penusbutter4182
      @penusbutter4182 2 місяці тому +1

      I finished the book alone in my house, as my mother was out for a walk and my siblings were at there dad's house.
      After i had closed the book i heard the front door open, and i was afraid my mum had come home.
      Truly masterful writing*

  • @lurkingmoth
    @lurkingmoth 6 місяців тому +81

    I haven't finished the video yet so idk if there's a tma tangent but I love the portrayals of cruel mothers in TMA. There's such a complex variety of unhealthy parental relationships in this show and what I really love is that all of them are nuanced, and written like real people rather than just villains or accessories to a character's unhappy backstory. The fact that they're capable of being normal in some situations and cruel on others makes that cruelty feel grounded.

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +17

      oh that’s such a good point. i usually find a way to include Magnus stuff, but not this one- you’re so right tho!

    • @gh.stb12rd
      @gh.stb12rd 6 місяців тому

      mary keay absolute evil piece of shit i LOVEEEE YOUUUU

    • @gh.stb12rd
      @gh.stb12rd 6 місяців тому +5

      Also agnes' mother. That episode was crayyyy cray. I need to relisten to magpod

    • @ollieno971
      @ollieno971 5 місяців тому +2

      I love the magnus archives!

  • @Beeyo176
    @Beeyo176 6 місяців тому +39

    Hereditary has nested in my brain. Just a glimpse of Toni Collette and I get a tight feeling in my chest.

  • @Productions547
    @Productions547 6 місяців тому +57

    “Their relationship came with an asterisk.”
    You’re a great writer! Another very enjoyable video, please keep it up!

  • @jastheunfriendlyghost
    @jastheunfriendlyghost 4 місяці тому +17

    It’s a shame that you didn’t talk about the role the mother played in Carrie. The religious imagery in it is beautiful and really shows how a parent’s influence can lead to their child’s downfall. I’d recommend talking about it!

    • @one-onessadhalf3393
      @one-onessadhalf3393 2 місяці тому +1

      I literally clicked on the video with the expectation he’d talk about it lol

    • @shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
      @shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 2 місяці тому

      I was hoping Carrie's mother would show up too. She's scary as hell

  • @troin3925
    @troin3925 6 місяців тому +35

    _mother!_ is one of my favorite horror films of all time. It also perfectly replicates anxiety in a way that not many other horror movies I've seen have been able to do.

  • @FinalFantasmagorie
    @FinalFantasmagorie 6 місяців тому +33

    There is one other party potentially at play in Charlie's death from Hereditary, and, thematically, I think it's the most important one: Paimon When they past the light post for the first time on the way to the party, we can see the sigil of Paimon carved into it, which appears all over the film. We also know that Paimon desperately desires a male host, which is why Charlie needs to be removed before he can be completely comfortable. With all these factors combined it seems very likely that, somehow, the cult, or even Paimon himself, was also responsible for Charlie's death, which plays significantly into the film's themes of responsibility and control. There's an intentional feeling throughout the film that the family are not in control of their lives, whether it be the parallels between the miniatures and themselves or the intentionally doll-house like set, which all leaves us to wonder if any of the characters can be blamed for what happened.
    TLDR: Maybe nobody is to blame for Charlie's death, save for a demon that wanted a new host.

    • @Nameless-ny8nk
      @Nameless-ny8nk 6 місяців тому +4

      I don't remember if it's a theory or confirmed, but I remember hearing that Charlie's soul was taken by Paimon since she was born, that's she behaves so “weirdly”, she's just an empty husk acting on the impulses of the demon who took her soul, and seeing it that way you could say it was Paimon who made her eat the cake as part of ensuring her death, because Paimon needed a male host for reasons I can't remember rn

  • @marvellousmocha1386
    @marvellousmocha1386 5 місяців тому +11

    Olivia Crain was so tragic because she truly truly became someone I couldn’t empathise with by the end of the season. I was obviously heartbroken for her but the deaths of Nellie and Abigail and the multiple attempts at killing Luke turned all of my sadness for her into pure horror and I was too caught up in the pain I felt for the other characters to see her as sympathetic.
    I think the reason this feeling was so palpable for me was because as you said, Olivia would have been horrified at herself if she only knew what she was doing, and because of the reaction Hugh had to what she did and to her death. He loved her more than anything and even he begins to lose that when he sees what she’s becoming. (For me this is cemented when he comes back to Hill House once again and Olivia’s ghost tells him that he hasn’t been talking to her all those years, not really. He remembered her as she was before she went mad, but as awful as it was that person just didn’t exist anymore.)
    In the end he doesn’t stay because he wants to be with her forever, he stays to save his children from their own mother who is trying to take their lives away from them and who succeeded in killing their youngest child.

  • @sydney9011
    @sydney9011 4 місяці тому +5

    I'm SO glad you talked about Mother! That movie never gets talked about like I feel it should, it makes you want to crawl out of your skin and scream near the end!!!

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  4 місяці тому +1

      that’s a great way of putting it

    • @sydney9011
      @sydney9011 4 місяці тому

      @@spookymcg that movie has a way with anxiety that I've never experienced in another movie!

  • @Snowwhitetheprince
    @Snowwhitetheprince 6 місяців тому +8

    I love the aspects of children and parents in horror, being a child is very vulnerable as your supposed to have someone guiding and teaching you how to support yourself so the idea of that person harming you brings an entirely unique feeling of betrayal, entrapment, and complex emotions like blaming yourself for said mistreatment. On the other hand being a parent is also terrifying, it’s also extremely unique, you have to care for, bring up, and protect an entire other human and the idea that you’ll fail is scary but also the idea of that child changing and turning into an adult may also be scary. Relationships are just so complex I love it

  • @sunnyquinn3888
    @sunnyquinn3888 5 місяців тому +17

    I always felt slightly to blame for my family breaking up. I was a "caboose baby", my parents' youngest child had just graduated high school when I was born. He was kind of mother's favorite, partly because he was a miracle baby, born very premature after three days of labor. Also because he inherited our mom's gift for music, especially playing the piano. He and I had always been close too, he loved having this silly little kid to play with and I loved the attention from my big brother.
    When my 4th birthday rolled around, he was away at college but he was coming home for my birthday party. But as he was driving back home, he got in a terrible car crash. He almost died from damage to his heart and the doctors took a little too long to fix it in surgery, such that his brain was deprived of oxygen for too long and was damaged. He lost a lot of memories and his personality totally changed.
    Both of his arms and hands were broken in several places and the doctors said he would never be able to play piano again, or at least not the way he did before. In the aftermath of the crash, it came out that my brother had dropped out of college and moved in with his girlfriend (which to our Conservative Christian parents was an awful thing). On top of everything else, my other brother (who our mom has referred to as "the poster child for abortion") kept salting the wound saying things like "I bet you wish it was me who had the accident instead of the Golden Child".
    Just a few weeks later my sister was in a bad car wreck and while she did make a full recovery, it was touch and go with her for awhile too. And it came out that she was high when she had the accident.
    So between the disheartening revelations, financial losses, and the general emotional trauma of it all, my family basically blew up and we never got it back again. So sometimes I feel like I unintentionally cursed my family by coming into it.

    • @bumbabees
      @bumbabees 2 місяці тому

      _none_ of that was your fault, hon. you were a child. you cant blame yourself for decisions other, older people in your life made. i know thats easier said than done, because i get it. i was unplanned and my family is ridiculous. but nobody asks to be born. i didnt, you didnt, nobody did. thats a decision adults made, and its ultimately on _them_ for whatever bad things come from that decision. theres more nuance to it than that obviously, but my point is, focus on the things you _can_ control. makes you feel a lot less crazy, believe me. whatever happens, happens. just keep going and remember to take care of yourself. theres always light at the end of the tunnel.

  • @EyeSea4VseMoHajaEsAi
    @EyeSea4VseMoHajaEsAi 6 місяців тому +17

    Thoughts about missing rosemary’s baby aside (which I was expecting n would have loved, but I still rlly enjoyed the Mother analysis)
    I did love the flow of this, starting with a children's movie, then different examples of horrific motherhood
    (and honestly the paranormal aspects are almost a relief than wholly facing head on the reality of abusive parenting, which is of course a very heavy topic) before the essay then ends with horror of pregnancy/ birth, going full circle

  • @schininglossofhope5184
    @schininglossofhope5184 6 місяців тому +14

    i was so terrified of coraline cause i hate spiders it genuinely gave me nightmares that i would be stuck in her web unable to escape

  • @transrightsdinosaur
    @transrightsdinosaur 6 місяців тому +9

    Thanks for another great video! I'm glad your mother inspired you to write. You're very good at it.

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +4

      She has always been so supportive

  • @The_CatZ_System
    @The_CatZ_System 3 місяці тому +2

    As someone who absolutely loved horror when they were younger, and lived with an abusive step mum for 13 years of my life, I've always had such a deep connection with Coraline

  • @Hsereal
    @Hsereal 6 місяців тому +10

    I know it's a very small portion of the video, but I found this excerpt disappointing:
    22:05 "...and women constantly find themselves victimized and disempowered by the decisions of completely-removed men..."
    This seems like a serious oversimplification. Remember that a woman helped directly decide _Dobbs,_ and many of its most vocal supporters are women. Indeed, those women have given the forced-birth movement some of its most powerful political capital and ideological cover -- frequently while _they_ are shielded from its worst effects by their class-status. Similarly, the gender-gap between men and women regarding forced-birth advocacy is surprisingly small (35% of women vs. 41% of men, according to Pew in 2022).
    If we ignore the contributions of women to the forced-birth movement, we are working with a thoroughly inadequate understanding of it. We're also erasing the agency -- and therefore the personhood -- of those women. None of these seem like good ways to address the problem.
    Other than that, I thought the video was excellent. Well done.

  • @NickOleksiakMusic
    @NickOleksiakMusic 6 місяців тому +6

    You're actually a solid voice actor as well - good job with that Hereditary dinner scene bit!

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +1

      thank you, I tried!

  • @TheMournfulGhost
    @TheMournfulGhost 2 місяці тому +1

    Happy Mother’s Day Connor’s mom!!!!!

  • @WytchKat
    @WytchKat Місяць тому

    When people talk about Coraline scaring them as kids, I feel so old. That movie came out when I was an adult but I still love it!

  • @reveuse.04
    @reveuse.04 6 місяців тому +5

    best mother's day youtube video to watch

  • @lizzyrank5405
    @lizzyrank5405 2 місяці тому +1

    From what I got from the cake scene in Hereditary, is that Charlie didnt know there were nuts in the cake. The family is very adimany that she knows not to eat nuts. Peter is the one that told her to eat the cake so she can mingle and get out of his hair. She didnt want to only because she didnt know if she was allowed to eat some elses cake.

  • @nishitaiyengar
    @nishitaiyengar 6 місяців тому +2

    Man, I found this channel on my FYP and UA-cam algorithm is FINALLY working well. I love your content!!!! Please please make more horror film/media based video essays!!! You're great at analysing them

  • @ollieno971
    @ollieno971 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m reaching house of the dragon in preparation for season 2 and that along with game of thrones has a lot of really interesting looks into motherhood and different types of mothers

  • @JuliaH-c6f
    @JuliaH-c6f Місяць тому

    I, too, wasn't afraid of Coraline growing up. Until my dad said the Other Mother was going to get me if I didn't go to bed. So now I'm only comfortable watching it during the day.
    The Other Mother doesn't frighten me much. She's just familiar because she reminds of my birth mom who was very much the other mother in my mind.

  • @slimegod9693
    @slimegod9693 2 місяці тому +1

    Fun fact, the book suggests that the beldam sort of lives inside a much larger cosmic entity that she's terrified of

  • @derekmatzek9551
    @derekmatzek9551 6 місяців тому +10

    Not sure if I’m disappointed you didn’t have a section of this video dedicated to rosemary’s baby or impressed you when a whole video on this topic without mentioning the mother of all mother horror films

    • @EyeSea4VseMoHajaEsAi
      @EyeSea4VseMoHajaEsAi 6 місяців тому +3

      I was totally expecting rosemary’s baby in the set up for Mother lol. Granted, I know the latter is more recent like the other ones here, but holy hell does RB exemplify the horror of pregnancy/birth so amazingly

    • @troin3925
      @troin3925 6 місяців тому +1

      @@EyeSea4VseMoHajaEsAi Ironically, the marketing made it seem like it would be similar to Rosemary's Baby with even one of the posters being an homage to the poster for Rosemary's Baby.

  • @procrastinator99
    @procrastinator99 2 місяці тому

    “When you were a little kid, were you scared by Coraline?”
    Fucking christ that makes me feel old…

  • @penandpapercliche
    @penandpapercliche Місяць тому

    Aww omg Connor's mom, you're awesome! Great job raising a very thoughtful person!

  • @Whightknight16
    @Whightknight16 6 місяців тому +14

    Boy, now I get to think about my complicated feelings about my mother and the language she used against me and how she diminished my autism as me using an "excuse"

  • @ImNotAWitchImYourWIFI
    @ImNotAWitchImYourWIFI 6 місяців тому +4

    me, a mom, watching this horror lol.
    Also happy mothers day connor's mom!!!

  • @lizzyrank5405
    @lizzyrank5405 2 місяці тому +1

    What i dont like abput Billys mom is that she left, which then sparked tlthe whole scream event to begin with. And now she wants to take "revenge"when technically it was her own fault. Who knows maybe something else would have pushed Billy into doing what he did anyways.

  • @allisond1645
    @allisond1645 2 місяці тому

    I watched Hereditary on a plane and that scene with the dinner table argument was so distressing that I had to turn off the movie. I never finished watching it.

  • @someoneawesome8717
    @someoneawesome8717 6 місяців тому +3

    Thinking about sending this to my own mom, she likes horror

  • @lizzyrank5405
    @lizzyrank5405 2 місяці тому

    I have a mom that has blind rage. When shes angry its scarry but then she forgets the events ever happened. Part of me thinks she does remember but doesnt want to acknowledging it because I too have those moments but I remember everything. Of course everyone is different and shes been through so much in her past thay maybe her brain clouds her memories on purpose BECAUSE she loves us so much. Shes always wanted multiple children but my younger brother needs nkre attention so the stopped after him.
    Shes nice most of my childhood and and honestly has good patience. But those burst of anger is really scary. She even choked me and alscratched my neck in the process but she doesnt remember any of it even though she hurt her knee when it went through the wall and my dad had to patch it up. She gets it from her mom whose was very handsy when it came to discipline and she was a single mom with multiple kids. She then got it from her fmaily dynamoc with her father beating on her mom all her life. Ive had the same rage myself and almost put my hands on my younger brother. Ive never wanted to be that perosn and I believe that neither would my mom and grandmother, idk about my GGF cause hes dead long before I came about. It kinda feels like I have a dark beast deep inside that thrives on the pain of others and jot caring about the comes. Im glad I was able to stop myself and I apologize as well as explaining what he said to be was not a respectful thing to say, especially since we (me and my siblings) have never talked to each other that way in all our time together. But this is one of the reasons why I never want to be a mother, unless its completley necessary to take someone in. The fear is too strong even though I have worked through it. Generational truama is weird. It lingers over the next gen, slowly eroding away those with good natures until they either becomes what they dislike, do a complete 180 with their own fanily dynamocs or steer clear completely from it.
    Logically I know what to do but the emotional fear still lingers. Honestly Collete did a awsome job of protraying a parents rage. Even if my circumstances were different, the fear of your paternal garudian turing on you is very jarring. Like I know my mom would never intentionally hurt me, but its almost worse because its not intentional and its one of the reasons why its hard to lean on her and why my older brother no longer talks to her. At times ypu neve know ehich version you'd get and its very stressful.

  • @indigoslife1202
    @indigoslife1202 5 місяців тому +1

    There is also Rosemary from "Rosemary's baby". She wanted to be a mother, but due to the third party she delivered something evil into this world. She knew her creation was evil, but still her mother instincts kicked in. Unfortunately for the world, but fortunately for the cult, they had chosen the perfect mother. A mother that would love and care for her baby. The mother's unconditional love.

  • @Snowwhitetheprince
    @Snowwhitetheprince 6 місяців тому

    I love the way you explain and give your opinions on these concepts in horror, there are a million things I would love to hear about from you honestly

  • @haasztamas
    @haasztamas 6 місяців тому

    I absolutely love all the movies and shows you talked about in this video. Thank you for highlighting the complex family dinamics and maternal influence in these media. Profoundly said and well researched, as always. It's a pleasure watching your videos! Thank you! ❤

  • @thecoolaxolotlnova8523
    @thecoolaxolotlnova8523 4 місяці тому

    to answer the intro question before i watch the video, the idea of losing my family is what scared me.

  • @arenomusic
    @arenomusic 5 місяців тому

    Really enjoying your videos, your writing style is super easy to follow and you set up arguments and points very well. Love it!

  • @Endangered.angel.
    @Endangered.angel. 5 місяців тому

    Idk why I’m getting recommended so many underrated UA-camrs but I love it, these are the best videos

  • @vnom84
    @vnom84 5 місяців тому

    I know this video was mostly about the crazy mothers of horror, but not talking about Lynn Peltzer from Gremlins in this video is an oversight IMO. Top tier horror mom. A bunch of little goblins invaded her house and she hits them with the old "I'm not lokced in here with you, you're locked in here with me."

  • @babybeans434
    @babybeans434 6 місяців тому

    this is so awesome i have no clue how you aren’t a bigger channel!

  • @thesixfootsixexperience8781
    @thesixfootsixexperience8781 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video, mate. Really cool topic to explore

  • @Morally_Ambiguous
    @Morally_Ambiguous 5 місяців тому

    ‘When you were little were you scared by the movie Coraline’: Me Aged 18 who loves horror movies yet Still terrified of Coraline

  • @mimik222
    @mimik222 6 місяців тому

    I related so much to Coraline as a child because my mother was very similar to Coralines real mother 😭 I wanted so badly to have another place to go where I flet “loved” thinking back on it now as an adult I realize that my mother was a single 20 something with an 8 year old in the middle of a recession and her dismissiveness makes sense. Although parents may not seem like they care, they show it in different ways.

    • @mimik222
      @mimik222 6 місяців тому

      Woah yappachino over here

  • @HallowIsSmol
    @HallowIsSmol 3 місяці тому

    a few years ago, my mom had a bad reaction to Keflex, a common antibiotic. she entered into a delirium that lasted a year. that fear, that worry and anxiety about both her and myself, i can only compare to some of these horror movies.
    i love my mom, shes a great person, but fuck. it was truly a scary time for me. she wasnt right. she wasnt my mom.

    • @Sofarinrunning
      @Sofarinrunning 2 місяці тому

      I had a similar experience, just far, far scaled down. My mother took melatonin but had forgotten she had taken it and took at least two doses and this caused her to wander my house for hours, not speaking coherently and culminating in her laying down in my bed and sleeping, which is weirdly disturbing for a kid. I had to call 911 and when they came they said she looked like she was having a stroke. The fear that she was going to be stuck like this forever compounded with the fact that my nana who i lived with at the time, had dementia and was not super coherent herself, i was terrified of being left alone. Luckily enough for me after a few days in the hospital she was fine; but none of us are even allowed to have melatonin in the house anymore. I am so sorry that happened to you, i can't imagine what that must have been like.

  • @scriptmonkey7812
    @scriptmonkey7812 6 місяців тому

    11:49 - Ain't no party like a Walnut Party!

  • @helpmeImpoor5314
    @helpmeImpoor5314 6 місяців тому +1

    Charlie's death was also the fault of the cult...everything that happened was predestined (remember the cult symbol on the pole?).

  • @EpicAirhead
    @EpicAirhead 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so, so much for this very well-written analysis of motherhood in horror. I feel like despite the mother always being considered the parent with the most influence on a child´s developement, we tend to overlook just how big that influence actually is, and what can happen when it isn´t a positive one. Women don´t have a "maternal instinct". Yes, there are lots of hormonal and developemental mechanisms that make sure a mom quickly forms a bond with her newborn, but building that relationship still takes a lot of time, work and energy. Not to mention the process of giving birth, or being pregnant for that matter. As a midwifery student, I´ve seen my fair share of births, and as beautiful and fascinating as they are, there is no denying the fact that they are scary, painful and that we still know concerningly little about them. I really appreciate your take at the matter in the "mother!" segment of the video. While I haven´t watched the movie yet, some of the things you described hit really close to home, especially people trying to control and influence the mother to a point where she has no agency over her own body, and how everyone focuses on the child. I loved both Hereditary and the Babadook because they both shifted that focus to the mothers, and their very complex relationships with that role. While in many classic horror movies (Friday like you said, Carrie, Psycho, Halloween and many more) a strained relationship with their mother serves as an "origin story" for the villains, these "monstrous" mothers themselves very rarely take the center stage, or are even acknowledged. That theme is extremely fascinating to me, and I really hope filmmakers continue this trend of exploring the horrors of childhood, parenting and femininity.

  • @spookyjones6577
    @spookyjones6577 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m not gonna lie. I really, really hate and despise the moms from the babadook and hereditary.
    Maybe it’s because I’ve seen the same evil in them that has been disguised as love and care under emotional duress when it’s actually just pure hate and evil for someone so young and vulnerable and naive.
    It would be kinder to just abandoned children they don’t love, but instead they burden their offspring with their presence.

  • @rylands4289
    @rylands4289 6 місяців тому

    7:02 the youngest child

  • @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
    @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 2 місяці тому

    Will that explain why there are fewer bad mothers than bad fathers ?

  • @hitbyatank
    @hitbyatank 6 місяців тому

    I just thought coraline was cool. I remember dreaming about what the other world would look like for me

  • @Guernica0000
    @Guernica0000 5 місяців тому

    My mom fr

  • @m.c.a.2699
    @m.c.a.2699 6 місяців тому

    *anything they've done

  • @mikeleddyphoto
    @mikeleddyphoto 6 місяців тому +1

    Hereditary

  • @Justtrollingyoulosers
    @Justtrollingyoulosers 5 місяців тому

    Mothers are truly the worst.

  • @michaelsilver253
    @michaelsilver253 6 місяців тому +3

    Whoa, can't believe the incredible Hill House Netflix series was made by the same person who made the dogshit adaption of Gerald's Game into a Netflix movie. That's an insane range of quality

  • @littlewhiterabbit202
    @littlewhiterabbit202 6 місяців тому +1

    I really hope all the good Mothers out there had a great Mother’s Day. I really disagree with how you casted fathers to the side in this video if it wasn’t for mine I wasn’t be here, loved or taken care of, he is very thing you described a mother is supposed to be and father at the same time. the women that give birth to me was the worst person in my life and I’m glad she doesn’t get to be a part of it now. But still I enjoyed your outlook on this subject.

  • @PercivalQyou
    @PercivalQyou 6 місяців тому +3

    First comment

  • @b33viemm
    @b33viemm 6 місяців тому +1

    Please credit sarcasticscribbles for that drawing of a person at the very beginning of the video

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +1

      she is credited in community posts for my banner and in the description of some earlier videos!

    • @spookymcg
      @spookymcg  6 місяців тому +1

      i love working with her

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx 5 місяців тому

    hereditary was such a disappointment to me... same with midsommar

  • @yowindz
    @yowindz 6 місяців тому

    Hereditary is a must watch, first time I watched it I wasn’t able to sleep it’s so good 🤌