No Man's Sky VS Starfield | Which Is BEST? | Full Comparison - Gameplay, Graphics, Ships, Combat
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- No Man's Sky and Starfield are in direct competition for the open world, space exploration genre. But which is better? In this video, we break down the similarties and differences between NMS and Starfield,, from their gameplay to graphics, combat, progression and story.
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0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Story + Missions
1:56 - Game Worlds Comparison
3:26 - Graphics Comparison
4:21 - Ground Combat
5:15 - Space Combat
6:39 - Base Building
7:24 - Updates + Support
8:05 - Online
8:23 - VR + Cross Platform
8:38 - Conclusion
9:34 - Outro
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Gee, the VR tips the scales for me…it is outstanding with the PSVR2. The immersion on foot AND flying is unbeatable. I do like the cinematic in Starfield but the loading screens kill it for me ( reminds me of commercials which I won’t watch). The true test is replay ability and I by choice come back to NMS. ( level 105 in Starfield and don’t care to progress beyond that). BTW, you have a GREAT channel and I just subbed!
@@prplehearts The VR support is certainly very impressive, I agree!
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I stopped playing starfield to play No Mans Sky. It just feels right.
Same...starfield feels like it's trying to be NMS and Fallout at the same time and wound up failing at both.
i stopped playin nms and settled on starfield
I played NMS for 15 mins and put it down never to pick it up again. That was 2 years ago.
15 mins on starfield turned in to 51 hrs 🤷🏿♂️
@@4g64spyderI did same when NMS was nothing in the beginning, recently have replayed and the current NMS is a completely different game.
Both are excellent
@@4g64spyderAnd it's a different game now from two years ago. Your point?
I wish No man's sky had Starfield's on foot combat and ship customization.
Then it would be my perfect sci Fi game.
Not being able to fly ships in atmosphere and land where I want makes star field so much worse for me.
If only we could merge the two games...
@@AverageGameReviews Truly. Bethesda could learn a lot from the people at Hello games, the two studios collaborating could make the ultimate sci Fi game.
One day someone else will be inspired by both I guess.
I guess mods can get us part of the way!
@@itcouldbelupus2842 this is what Star Citizen is working to be, just fyi.
The thing i love the most about NMS is there is a chance that the few things you want will find its way into the game in the future…the developers have done enough to have thst hope.
Starfield is a shooting game No Man’s Sky is a exploration game.I Love NMS.❤
Starfield if u watch carefully game has very poor bullet ballistic thus we call it a shooting game
Starfield is a RPG. Totally different game.
@@starberry2705may be different but it’s still shîte compared to no man sky. Of course this is my subjective opinion but the load. Screens alone make Startfield feel less immersive and more disjointed
NMS is a space rpg. Starfield is a rpg in space.
More like talking game
The two games are like 2 halves of an unfulfilled whole. If you played both of them you will begin to wish each game had the pros of the other. You could only imagine how perfect it would be like if it did.
I agree completely!!
Try scam citizen
That is because they are aimed at different things. NMS like Elite suffer from lack of any sort of interaction with NPC or story, as they are sandbox using their planet tech to cover for the lack of that side.
While Starfield went the other way, adding what other games lack, but giving up on what makes these games immersive. It is normal they had to do that, otherwise you would not be able to finish the game in either case (took 8 years to NMS to get to a decent place, after being released... And Elite is basically dead after their first expansion that added planet landing; Starfield just came out)
Personally, I dislike the combat itself, so I wouldn't wanna see more of that.
This is the perfect comment.
I play both games. I think they are very different games. I know one thing for sure, No Man's Sky is my happy place. I like Starfield, but I Love NMS. It takes me away from the woes of the Earth. I like that NMS does not depend on violence. It's very creative.
Depends on violence… you should see my reputations… I’m basically just a space pirate… they all hate me cause I love destroying freighters and cargo pods.
I totally agree it takes you away from competition and violence while making a relaxing experience compared to games that try to siphon cortisol from player's making it a stressful experience.
Difficult settings exist for that reason. It's about time for NMS to have more meaningful and threatening situations. The lack of difficult, threatening battles, real menacing problems to be faced, FREIGHT BATTLES for christ sake. I love NMS, but migrated some months ago to Valheim, and probably will be back to NMS only when it gets some more mature contents. It would be extremely cool to have the need to warp to a base to fend off a pirate or sentinel attack.
@@bruplealIn the latest update now your Freighter fleet can be attacked by another Freighter which will require you to return and defend it.
No Man's Sky is definitly beter then Starfield for a space exploration game.
I'm at 71 hours and just made my Underwater base. Barely touched the storyline and the on going missions. Right now my favorite part are the portals.
No mans sky is 7 years old the fact that it's being compared should be embarrassing for Starfield
Or , it took 7 years for NMS to constantly patch itself with new content to be comparable to a brand new release..maybe not a flex. That Starfield is what it is, at its launch, versus what NMS was at their launch 7 years ago.. not a flex.
@@TheMrSnouts Starfield sucks... loading screen simulator can't hold a candle to NMS.
even at launch nms was better than starfield, it disappointed many people by not delivering what was promised but it was still objectively a good game even at launch. they eventually delivered on their promise through updates each year, so good for them
starfield will never deliver on its promises, the modders will have to do it themselves because bethesda won't@@TheMrSnouts
@@TheMrSnoutsStarfield is missing basic things that even NMS had on release
Not really. Look how old EvE is and yet it (and its systems) are still being compared with more modern titles. Simple.
If No Man’s Sky had around the same on foot combat as Starfield’s. It would be a great game. I feel like the movement can be updated and tweaked a bit.
All that NMS is missing is the humanoid combat even then you have sentinels that are pretty hardcore fights.
@@efxnews4776 agreed, that'd be a huge leap in a great direction for them. More than horrors and sentinels
based on what we have seen with the updates, it might in the near future
@@mathewsjain4458 yep we just had major updates to space battle is only a madder of time before we get to see hopefully on planet combat
I just started NMS a couple weeks ago and I can’t believe I was on the fence about getting it…starfield takes the combat but other than that NMS is eating starfield up. I didn’t know how important it was for me to enter space or a planet without a cut scene before even watching this. Even with the tutorial I felt like I had so much freedom and was actually experiencing what it feels like to be in space…and boy oh boy did I get sidetracked a million times during the tutorial…it took me like 4 hours into the tutorial for my friend to talk some sense into me and tell me to focus on finishing the tutorial to get better stuff lol
No Mans Sky is incredibly immersive. Seemless exploration is mandatory for a "space" game imo.
no man’s sky is still an inherently boring game even after 7 years of features and additions. There are no interesting quests just a large universe sized sandbox and you can build a base and that's literally it.
Starfied beats NMS in pretty much every single department and saying otherwise is laughable
@tnafan Although it is unfair to compare the two, your statement is woefully ignorant.
NMS is a truly open universe with:
Seamless exploration
Seamless combat transitions from planet to orbit to open space
Many different land and sea vehicles
Roleplay variety
Basic law system
An influenceable economy
Trade
Pirating
Class system
Starship variety
Starship salvaging
Anomalies
Freighters
Freighter design hunting
Interior building on freighters
Space walking
Derelict Freighters
Hyperdrive systems
Fuel
Interactable, intelligent alien species
Playable alien species
Alien languages
Mission Board
Expeditions
Multitool, vehicle and starship modification
Multitool and starship design hunting
Atmospheric Survival
Extreme planets
Weather systems
Animals
Tameable animals
Rideable animals
Settlements
Decorating
Manufacturing
Co-op
PVP
Terrain manipulation
I could keep going.
See, No Man's Sky is a real sandbox where you make your own fun using the immense systems and mechanics provided by the game.
Starfield is a narrative driven railroad with sandbox elements and lite roleplay mechanics to distract the player and provide an illusion of freedom.
Starfield has a retarded amount of loading screens.
No Man's Sky has ONE, when hyper jumping and it doesn't load a cutscene or fade to black, you are in your ship. That is immersive.
From Starfield's website:
"In this next generation role-playing game set amongst the stars, create any character you want and explore with unparalleled freedom as you embark on an epic journey to answer humanity’s greatest mystery."
@@TheTennesseeFistMachinecool opinion but you missed out the part where in no man's sky you can colonise planets tame creatures genetically modify them, hang out with friends, get a massive ship and get your own fleet, build a base just about anywhere, no cut scenes every 5 minutes, has an active and loyal fan base, the list goes on but by saying this I'm not hating on you or starfield, it's a good game, but I just prefer no man's sky for the unique and interesting procedurally generated map
@@TheTennesseeFistMachine
Whether a game is interesting or not really just depends on your preferred playing style. Some want to experience a thrilling and immersive story while others prefer to make up their own story, explore freely and don’t really care about quests. I like both story-driven and free-style games so I don’t think either No Man‘s Sky or Starfield can be called a better game - they just cater to different interests.
Starfield had ship customization, which is super awesome.
But I believe the answer to that is No Man's Sky offers infinite ships, just hang out at a trade outpost and purchase the ship you want.
Still would be sick too be able to customize.
Maybe a good idea for a base upgrade in the future.
I think Ship customisation will come to NMS.
@@arronstone177with everything else they’ve added, it’s definitely something they’re aware of
Wouldn’t it take the merit away from finding a cool ship? Just being able to make it.
Good news fellas
Im 90 hours into NMS and have barely done any story missions. Just been building up my base and stockpiling resources.
Doing the same thing now🤣 im at 71 hours
NMS doesn't have a story does it?
@@4g64spyder it does,
@@SuperJj1991 I thought it was just you build and fly around like mine craft in space. Oh ok 👍
@4g64spyder That's part of it. There's 3 main mission, side missions, online missions. Hella shit to unlock. Like the video said it really lacks the combat
I Personally Really Appreciate The Effort That Has Been Put Into Starfield But In All Honesty No Man's Sky Just Has A Much Better Execution Into This Particular Genre But However I Would Love To See The Cities In No Man's Sky!
You Can Make Settlements, Eventually People Move In
No Man's Sky TBH
Starfield turned out to be Fallout 'in space", which is fine BUT is not what it really was hyped to be.
So many of the disaffected ended up playing No Man's Sky for the FIRST TIME.
I have helped so many new players over the last month in No Man's Sky it is ridiculous.
This is me I played starfield and was left wanting a space game. People kept mentioning that NMS was good now so I gave it a shot and holy cow. What a breath of fresh air. Maybe in a few years starfield will step up and become a good game but for now there's just no comparison between the two for me.
@@dagnabit2020 Maybe but Starfield was never meant to be NMS. I think Todd just name dropped No Man's Sky to hype pre-order sales of Starfield, which it did LOL
At least, NMS got free marketing. That game is amazing in 2023.
They are very different games. NMS is more sandbox and lets you basically go nuts and do whatever you want. Starfield is more like a shooter with lite exploration.
People need to get this though there heads NMS= SPACE MINECRAFT SF= RPG
Perhaps the most balanced comparison I have watched so far... Great job 👏 👍
Great to hear, thank you! Tried my best to be objective.
Only have about 24 hrs in NMS but as a former Elite player I'm enjoying this more than Starfield.
when it comes to voiced cutscenes, NMS has a whole system where you learn languages as you talk to different aliens. Adding voiced cutscenes would be daunting at best and near impossible at worst.
It would work great with alien language that could be even AI generated and recorded, without need for translation at all. And just do such through subtitles. Those would be just as now, decoded based on your knowledge.
And they kind of already do that, if you think about it.
The problem with adding cutscenes, other than being the cheapest storytelling device in video-games... after a wall of text, is that the engine, or maybe the resources they have, in regards to actual animations, are very limited.
Huge skryim and fallout 4 fan. That being said i have 200+ hours in no man sky and love it. Waiting on starfield to see what shakes out, dlc, mods etc.
Im on 71 lovely hours
I'm genuinely curious why you haven't played Starfield if you're that big of bgs? And 200 hrs over what time frame?
@No-One.321 200 hours over the past 3 years. With kids and a career my gaming time is limited and no mans sky has become my comfort food of sorts. Log in, play for a bit
Be done. Thought of learning a whole new game especailly when i cant spend much time is just not appealing. Maybe if i tire of nms, or as a goty edition or special edition or something comes out with discount will pick it up. Game looks great though.
I lasted 2 hours with Starfield (GamePass) before the cutscenes and loading screens did me in. It did rekindle my NMS itch though and have been playing it a ton since. Runs great on my relatively old laptop too.
Me too 😂
Maybe you need better pc the loading screens in starfield are only 1 or 2 seconds on my machine not even enough time to consider a loading screen.
@@SoutheastanglerLLC I didn't like the design or look of the game either to be honest so will stick with working through my backlog.
NMS takes a hot & steamy dump on Starfield.
I bet you love watching paint dry too.
@@kyus1974 Not particularly.
@@kyus1974did God Howard pay you for that weak ass comment lol?
@@kyus1974
I bet you love huffing paint.
Not particularly.
Absolutely LOVING NO MAN'S SKY. what this game has become is something really special ♥️😂♥️😂
No Man's Sky simply stole my heart.
You did leave out a lot of what No Man's Sky has to offer. You can be a Pirate in NMS, in fact; there was a whole update dedicated to that idea. If you choose this route however; you are now locked out of using any now pirate faction bases. If you even talk to a none pirated faction NPC; tell will call the Sentinel forces on you. There are also sides missions at Pirate owned Space Stations; as well as bounty hunts for and against pirates.
That's the thing about piracy; if you choose that life, you can never go to a normal star port, space station, or freighter group, as you will get attacked after making contact. It limits where you can go, but that's half the fun of it. Can Starfield say the same? I wouldn't know; as I haven't played it yet. My PC sucks, and can't run the game. But I have played NMS since launch, and the improvements made this game has been amazing. I also know a lot of people are upset with the fact that Starfield has no mapping system when you are in major cities, or areas the game's story take you. I don't know if you mentioned that.
Yes, that's a very good point. There's so much going on in this games that it's impossible to mention everything!
I was struggling to run Starfield with a 3060...it is a shame it's so poorly optimised. I've already seen a mod somewhere that lets you use DLSS!
You're still able to go too space stations. I'm a pirate level 9. You're not able to Teleport from a regular space station to a outlaw space station
Yes, you can be a space pirate, and yes you cannot traverse near normal space while you have a bounty on you. Mind you, you can pay off the Bounty, and each one is faction specific. Like... If you start taking cargo from Freestar vessels, the UC won't care one bit, but... Prepare to not be able to go anywhere near Freestar cities til you square up the bounty. Mind you, piracy is so lucrative you easily get the creds to pay off a bounty.
There is an entire faction for pirates in Starfield, with a big main quest, as well as miscellaneous quests. There are also perks and ship parts made just for the profession. There's even a skill that makes ships far more likely to surrender to you. Also, you can board a ship once you destroy its engines. You can then kill the crew and either loot it, or take the ship for your own.
Once you join the space pirate fleet, none of the pirates are hostile to you anymore. This makes some parts of exploration easier, if the base you discover is taken over by pirates for instance. You can just walk right in, loot, and do your quest with no enemies.
Also, there is a massive space battle at the end of the pirate main quest that is really fun. Starfield did actually do a good job with ship combat and ship building and the space pirate/smuggler trade. You can also be a bounty hunter, but that's not what you were curious about.
1. you only need forged passport and then you can go anywhere, you just need to use the galaxy map to go there and then use the forged passport at the computer very back of the space station to re-enable the ability to teleport there. one simple trick you can do is just make a small base at any galaxy you think you will often revisit, and then you can simply teleport to your base and fly to the space station to use the forged passport
2. you can get a blueprint for a device that hides black market goods from cargo scans
3. if you have a sentinel ship, who cares who comes after you anyway? you are basically untouchable. infra-knife accelerator with 3 black market upgrades + phase beam with the leech shields upgrade and you can't lose
In nms you can do a mission to get a fake passport to restore your reputation and be able to travel freely once again
Wait…
I absolutely cannot believe no man’s sky has such a small crew behind it relative to Bethesda.
Dude, I didn't know that No Man's Sky was developed and has been updated by less then 50 people. That's actually impressive!
That shows even more, that Bethesda has no fing excuse for all those stupid loading screens.
Here is my advice after playing Starfield 245 hours and NMS over 800. Buy both games they are great fun and well worth the investment 👍
Over how long have you played nms?
Agreed. I love both games equally.
Perfect
800 hours? That's a months worth of sitting down since it released
@@TekkLuthor 800 is No mans sky
Nice video! I’ve been enjoying No Mans Sky when I have time to play. I might get Starfield someday, especially when the Modding community takes over. Lately I’ve been having fun with Cyberpunk 2077, with new update and Phantom Liberty. 👍
Good stuff! Think I need to revisit Cyberpunk...
@@AverageGameReviewsThe update 2.0 is really good! The game is much better compared to how it was. I’m on PS5. The one problem that I’m having is that I can’t load any of my old saves. If I try the game crashes right at the title screen. I guess CD Project Red is looking into it. It works beautifully on my new save file though. It just sucks that I can’t load in with my lvl 30 Character.
I’m pretty sure the only loading screens in no man’s sky are going between galaxies, solar systems, and loading into the game. Meanwhile on starfield, almost everything is locked behind a loading screen
I mean it comes down to, No Man Sky came out 10 years ago and the updates made it amazing. I’ve always thought, why the heck don’t they just keep updating an amazing game that came out instead of making a whole new one?… I thought that about a month ago and had to try No Man’s Sky just for that fact. I love it. I also love supporting the David’s of the world. I hope No Man Sky wins the space race😊
No mans sky lore is some heavy shit fr, i have never seen such a complex and deep lore in any other game except maybe stellaris
What about the lore makes it the best lore you've ever seen?
Do you get to the lore just by playing or is there a lot of media about it?
@@houstonscott6205 If youre paying good attention, and recognize the connections you can get it ingame, especially after a recent update that saves all logs. But i personally missed all that and got a large part through media thats also bc i missed a few story related stuff like old expeditions.
@@No-One.321 for short it explains the whole universe of the game and is even breaking the 4th wall, for example your exosuit (telamon) is aware of you (the player). I've never said its the best lore overall, its just the most complex and deep/mindblowing i have experienced so far.
@@LL-gx3yj gotcha! Thanks for the reply
Being able to fly from the ground, thru the atmosphere, and into space is the ish. Or vice versa. Especially in vr. It's what I've been waiting for for many years 🔥
If star field had a vr feature like no mans sky that’s would be sickkkkk
i wish no mans land had actual combat with other humanoid enemies if ti did i prob pick no mans land
I like both games equally. Starfield is more a Fallout style game in space while No Man's Sky is more on space flying and exploring. They are both great space exploration games.
Perfect
Only one of them is an exploration game. Only thing that Starfield really nailed was the skill progression system
no mans sky is better full stop my opinion
Comparing Starfield and No Man's Sky is like apples and oranges. One is an open world RPG, the other is a survival exploration game. One is AAA budget and a massive development team, the other was developed on a tiny budget by an indie studio. Yes they're both set in space but they are two totally different games.
Not even a minute in and i immediately drew toward No Man's Sky.
I bought NMS 4 weeks ago and played 156 Hours on steam till this day. Friends ask if they should buy it and whats it like. I keep telling them i just cant explain whats so good about it but somehow it keeps me pulling back....i blame the Atlas
Although I have yet to try out Starfield, I simply can't see it being better in MOST categories than No Man's Sky for me. Starfield looks decent from an initial standpoint, and if I would have never played NMS before maybe I would be more interested. But, from the plethora of vids and content I've watched about Starfield, it's just a more advanced Mass Effect, with more shooting and less storyline. I do have to admit, the ship building looks fantastic! But even that will get stale after progressing far enough. I may eventually try it out (when bugs are patched and it's on sale), but I also have several new games on the horizon that I suspect will take my time and energy.
For me, personally, NMS is something in a genre all to itself. I luckily didn't play it when it came out, but I know all about the dismal release stigma surrounding it. However, having finally picked it up a few years ago, and seeing the changes since even then, it really is in a class of its own. It's so Zen and satisfying, even after hundreds upon hundreds of hours. I recently started a brand new playthrough and spend even more time now simply exploring and building bases. I just found a low-grav Dissonant moon to build a new base on for echo and inverted mirror farming (making a vid for my channel ASAP about that to be my first entry). I can play for 30 minutes a day or 13 hours. If I get tired of grinding for a specific interceptor ship or multi-tool or whatever, I can simply grab some missions at the Anomaly and do those for hot minute.
Yes, Starfield can SEEM to have a lot of content. And, to be fair, it does have quite a bit compared to any other similar game (except maybe Cyberpunk). But eventually you'll run out. NMS will NEVER run out of content. Some of it can be similar, yes, but then you can simply change your gameplay style and mix things up just for giggles! Delete your base on 1 world that you thought was amazing after you find a new one even better, and build from scratch! Invite strangers in to help you build an entire city at your base. Turn pirate and attack civilian fleets constantly. Go on a nanite kick for weeks on end by surveying every creature on every planet you travel to. Find a companion and genetically modify it for generations. Unlock every single crafting part in the game by farming for buried modules. And, almost like clockwork, by the time you feel like you've done everything, a new major update drops and Hello Games adds an epic $#%@-ton of new content!
TL;DR - yes, Starfield, I'm sure, is still very good. But, as the OP mentioned in the vid, a team of hundreds compared to a team of roughly 50 that have done nothing for over a decade than build this universe of No Man's Sky. There's a REASON No Man's Sky is still in contention with other AAA games being release nowadays. Not many games, if any, can say that. I'm sorry to say, but I don't see Starfield hype lasting much longer than any other initial big release. A year or two, tops.
5:30 i just randomly found this out pressing buttons randomly but i pressed up on the D-Pad in No Man's Sky and I was able to divert power between weapons or shields or engines
Nms has superior exportation, starfield superior most everything else. However I find myself playing nms a lot still just because of random discovery is appealing to me 😊
Personally, i say Starfield. I liked the actual dialogue in game, a real story about us collecting alien artifacts that ends up getting us dragged into a conflict with inter-dimensional travelers, ship building, ground combat is actually fun unlike NMS which is under utilized.
Both are proceedurally generated, but i feel like Starfield has more uniqueness for every planet. It’s like planets with some sort of flora or anything other than barren rock has it’s own textures and creatures, and the game just automatically lays it out. Ship combat is also better imo. Call me a shill for Starfield if you want, but i honestly feel like it’s better than NMS in almost every way. Ship combat in NMS is annoying for me. I turn around slowly, and by the time i’ve got the enemy in my sights they fly right past me. In Starfield if you level up the piloting skill, you turn around and maneuver way better.
Also, this is made by Bethesda, and takes many of the elements from previous games, especially Fallout 4 and Skyrim. And i am an absolute Bethesda fanboy. I hated Fallout 76 but i believe Starfield, while not Bethesda’s best (they could do much better), it’s a return to form over their last garbage.
I got about forty hours into Starfield, & had so many "You DO plan to have space travel & exploration in your space travel & exploration game don't you?" experiences, that it dulled the fun of the graphics.
I reloaded a newly modded NMS (Just some quality of life mods, biome 'fixers' for the Rando Calrissian nature of some things...Nothing too fancy. Certainly nothing that overrides the need to get anything manually in the game.) Knowing that my end game has a VERY large garden home built to suit with many offshoot bases for auto-harvesting the necessary materials to create high end trade items. (one in particular) ...& that by THAT time? I'm literally flying almost NO where any-longer...I am wormhole teleporting from place to place to place... out of necessity... I also play hardcore. If my character dies? I'm screwed...Out time I'll never have back.. & THAT adds flavor to my games.
Once I am thoroughly "burnt" out on the concept of making a billion creds & having a super fancy home & completing the newest iterations (see what I did there?) of the newest questlines having to do with the sentinels? I'll switch back to Starfield, recreate a character, & immerse myself in the graphic chewies... It'll be great because I'll already be "Still tired" with the space exploration & travel, but still ready for a "Fallout in space" adventure...
IF I can get past their rehashed storyline... *laughs* I can't believe they decided to go with what had already been done before....SO well...
No Man's Sky has planets, Starfield has .jpgs that look like planets.
I play NMS on switch…so portable on the go is a win for me 😂
One small correction, it could still be 18 quintillion planets still, but I think it's shrunk in size, it's still ungodly huge, but dont think it's still that.
Have you left the first galaxy, Euclid, yet? I'm on my 5th galaxy and have been for months. It's just as huge, but so far empty of other players. I haven't seen one star system yet in my current galaxy, that was discovered by someone besides myself. If the amount of planets seems smaller, you just might need to change galaxies.
@@sdube001 Euclid, Hilbert, and Eissentam (1, 2, and 10) are the only galaxies with decent player presence. Euclid because... duh, Hilbert because a lot of people go to the center once and don't bother again, and Eissentam because it's the first lush galaxy with high paradise world spawns. Any of the other 252 galaxies are wide open if you want to be a pioneer... though I wish the game had like 12 galaxy types instead of 4 to make them feel different. Imagine a corrupt galaxy type where the majority of planets are exotic. Or an abandoned galaxy type where basically no systems have space stations. There would be a lot more space for people to play in a galaxy they like instead of everyone going lush or norm because empty is boring and harsh is annoying.
@@TooFewSecrets Yeah i wanna get to eissentam. I have found some awesome ones, like a fractured planet
Personally I don't believe SF and NMS are in direct competition. SF is a game made of rooms separated by menus while NMS is a game of solar systems separated by a single menu which we call a map. I think that most people came to SF with great expectations of either Skyrim or NMS and have been greatly disappointed as a result.
I like Bethesda but i can say starfield made me consider giving no man's sky a real try and i play it more than started now.
Arter reading a lot of the comments and replies, i've noticed a lot of people focus on the story aspect of games. While a story is a huge part of a game and its enjoyablity, it's not what makes NMS so much fun, it's the creativity and your willingness to explore a galaxy full of millions of planets. If you focus on the story aspect, you're not going to have as much fun as just playing the game and having a good time with friends, or by yourself.
In No Man Sky’s most recent update, they added ship customizability.
I’m certain they will add more to it over time as usual.
But on the topic of onfoot combat, if they got enough request for better systems, I’m sure they’ll work something out with the UI’s to make it happen.
The No Man Sky devs are really chill and flexible with fan preferences.
Excellent comparison!! I'm loving No Man's Sky. I didn't think I would and then I started to hunt for crashed starships.. LOL
About the topic Online in no man sky. it is possible to randomly meet other players in the universe and also find their bases. This was unknown for a long time and players thought it was impossible. The only problem is that there are 257 different galaxies and together about 18 trillion planets. So it's just extremely unlikely. But not impossible. There are now even community bases and colonies where you can visit. I just love this game for real.
"There's no fine tuning your gun though"
Are you insane? There's like supercharged slots and upgrades for your weapon loadouts, plus buy storage spaces to add the weapon loadouts and their class upgrades. You can hold up to 6 multitools too. What are you talking about?😂
Honestly one has been out for years and much needed addons and content. While starfield just released not really a time for the comparison yet. Give it a year or 2 and do a follow up vs
Maybe if they keep updating starfield can become as good as nms in 7 years, but i dont think bethesda will update their game for 7 years to make it perfect.
They said 5 years
Starfield is already better than nms, but then again they are totally different genre of game.
@@kyus1974 The fact that u get reminded that u are playing a game everytime u walk in or out a building by seeing a black screen breaks the immersion for me, in nms i can play for hours in vr without any black screen, best space game ever until star citizen maybe finishes one day and also get vr support.
@@jefmoesy nothing to do in nms tho.
@@kyus1974 Yeah i just spend the last 6 hours doing nothing alright🤣
Different games but definitely no man's sky. They actually took time to update and fix the game. Bethesda will just hope modders will fix it
I have no man’s sky on PSVR2 and it’s too f****** amazing. Literally obsessed I played for like 10 hours today and 10 hours yesterday and i genuinely feel like I have a different space life inside that game 😂😂
And I swear each new activity just makes the game 10x more deep and more interesting and it’s like an exponential rabbit hole of glory. I thought I was having fun in the beginning but now I’m having 40x the fun I started out with and I’m sure it will only grow
NMS has a more indepth weapon mod system than starfield, hands down. In starfield you get a RNG weapon, that unless its legendary has minimal statistics. Then you rank up so you can reasearch mods, to build mods, to add them to your gun to make them slightly different feeling, but they do look different.
In NMS you also get RNG guns from vendors and activities, but then you also get an RNG mod from a different enemy, and that mod (depending on the enemy and class of mod) can drastically change the feeling of the weapon, as well as technically change it from one type of gun to another, or adds different firing modes if you aren't replacing mods. It may not change how the gun looks, but you can feel confident that your gun is either doing more damage, has a new firing mode, etc.
Personal opinion, i think NMS combat is better. Gun mods, more enemy variants, will actively chase you down, and it gets more intense the more you fight. Again this is all personal opinions.
I also dont believe starfield is movie like, at all. There are no cinematic angles when you are talking to people, or times where they even showcase the genuinely beautiful landscapes in the game. Its always a close up shot on a person, and its usually bugged out with the camera being dragged around as the NPC you're talking to walks around while trying to talk to you. If you want cinematic immersive gameplay, play Cyberpunk 2077, cause starfield hands down aint it.
Also the quests sucked hard. All of them were boring and predictable, especially the main quest line. Again, this is all MY OPINION.
I want to try to play both these games over my winter break from uni. Maybe do some serious gaming like 10 hours one game Monday 10hours in the other on Tuesday and flip like that to get a very clear idea of each strengths and weaknesses.
if you put them together you've got it
Another note on No Mans Sky, all updates are free. There are no paid DLC's for NMS.
There are no DLC's for Starfield (yet) but we know they are coming.
RPG with voiced NPC’s to a Space Sim is very hard to compare. These are apples & oranges. Both games do what both games do & they both do it well. Fruit is tasty, I enjoy most fruit.
I think there is an answer to almost all of Starfields questions in No Mans Sky besides the nice handcrafted rpg elements. The two biggest ones, ship hunting and being a pirate. You may not be able to customize your ship, but the endless amount of 8 types of procedurally generated ships with RNG based elements could be considered better, by allowing for more exploration across galaxies. We may not be able to board ships and become a well-known outlaw, but we still get pirate systems with pirate space stations, smuggling missions, our own squadron, and a few pirate cosmetics.
Different sub-genres imho, however a good video as usual :).
Yes, they are definitely aimed at slightly different audiences! That said, there's quite some overlap so I thought a comparison might be helpful for some people. Glad you liked the video :)
NMS wins
Starfield is a space exploration game, without space exploration. You don't need your ship at all. You just fast travel from one town to another town on a whole other planet.
I got Starfield for free with my new graphics card, but I still want a refund
Looks like you went into the game with the wrong mindset.
I don't think a space game should be DOOM in a space setting. It should be more about flying ships.
NMS leans into the fact it’s not realistic consistently and nails it. Colorful biomes, cool looking and sometimes huge animals. All manner of strange creatures that don’t even resemble animals at all.
Oceans, lakes, volcanoes and the ability to dig into the soil and find caverns. Technology is futuristic and some of it is totally alien. Huge variety of ship styles and freighters actually feel like a base. Grinding is an option but it doesn’t feel necessary.
Starfield leans into the realism of SciFi often at the expense of fun and ends up feeling bland. No sentient alien races, planets look and feel too similar. The biomes of habitable planets do not even come close to the kind of biodiversity we have on Earth, let alone anything more creative than that.
Technology is very inconsistent. Star maps but no city maps. Spaceships but no land vehicles. In-ear comms and interspace comms for a couple missions and RNG events but totally absent every other time where you play messenger. Ship builder but can’t swap parts between ships. Lots of guns, grenades and knives but no dismemberment or space suit leaks.
Major XP/skill system imbalance mandates hundreds of hours to experience full range of gameplay options making grinding necessary or deal with FOMO or tedium. Your choices have consequences except when that choice is to kill a character only to find out they are immortal, again and again and again.
NMS feels like you are playing a video game about survival and exploration in a fun arcade style whose mechanics often have a surprising amount of breadth and a barebones story that exists simply to justify a sandbox and does it well.
Starfield feels like you’re getting immersed in that world except you are regularly pulled out by the logical inconsistencies, loading screens and artificial nature of things. But you love space and the potential of what could be an incredible game so you keep playing along trying to immerse yourself in the many quests and fun shipbuilding no matter how many times you get yanked out.
Eventually you’ll start wishing they spent less time rendering details on sandwiches and resources and focused more on better enemy AI or actually delivering on hyped up locations like the run on the Red Mile or taking more advantage of zero-g combat missions.
Starfield has a bit of an identity crisis. It’s gameplay is pure looter shooter with an RPG skin, because the only role you’ll be playing is essentially a good space vigilante or a good sarcastic space vigilante. Faction missions do broaden that a bit and along with ship building are the saving grace of Starfield. Enjoyed most when played as a linear series of quests.
NMS knows what it is and delivers, a bright space exploration survival game with arcadey combat and a wide variety of activities to fill out the sandbox.
Manage your expectations, play both for what they are and you will have fun.
Hey man, bit of a random one here: would you be interested in providing gameplay clips for a NMS video on the channel? (Paid of course!) Just looking back through old comments to find people who clearly know the game well!
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I like NMS. It has almost everything right, but one thing: purpose.
As in, you can explore, but what do you explore? There are no mysteries. Planets are huge, but the ruins of ancient civilizations and crashed freighters are basically the same on any planet.
There is combat, but why? You can’t conquer a solar system or a planet. There is no immediate danger of anything but storms on very active planets. There might be a huge fish or eye underwater that will attack you out of nowhere, but it won’t necessarily kill you. It feels so lonely…
You can hunt to collect ships and pets, but they are basically the same everywhere.
Now, I’m just starting with Starfield and I can see where it fails. I hate loading screens just as much as anyone else out there. But if it was a multiplayer game, it would be so much different. Let’s hope upcoming updates make the experience much more complete.
I think we can make this very simple: NMS = Fun / Starfield = boring to the hell
As a sci fi fan I am biased towards sci fi games and I do play Starfield, but it feels restricted, like it's missing gameplay. Like being the bad guy. You can join the Crimson Fleet and be a pirate, but the game makes you more of a anti-hero then a villain.
What's also big is the fact that the procedural generation in No Man's Sky is saved somewhat. Most of the time, it saves a good chunk of a world that you have been to and then generates stuff around it you haven't been to. But going to the same place all the time, has the same chunk, but the area around it will be different every time. Not like Starfield that is completely different every time you go to an area
Starfield very fun game and all. But I think no mans sky just offers way more. Is more fun and just overall at this stage is wayyy more refined
Starfield ain't refined at all. And for the pricing is starfield wayyy to expensive
NMS has ground, water and mech vehicles. It also has in planetary flight, terraforming, wingman and Freighter fleets. Starfield can’t compete, except maybe for the inevitable naked Sara Mod.
If Starfield had the space travel of no man’s sky it would be so goated. Sadly it’s extremely hard to beat no man’s sky despite the the better story and combat. That space travel is the most desired feature of space games.
Don't forget the awsome No Man's Sky community, almost everyone is helpfull, there is little to no toxicity. I have been playing for years and only once I was attacked by another random player. You can turn PvP off in the settings. And people gift you random valuable stuff in the Anomaly. All in all NMS is a great game and a great redemtion story for a studio.
Now if we compare the launch version of NMS with Starfield then this comparison would definitely be different. Give starfield a year or two and then we will see how it is
It's not even a question of how it will be. Bgs is supporting Starfield for years and then you have mods. It's going to be nuts.
Exactly!! NMS was utter garbage when it launched...not to mention it was missing half the game on launch. No multi-player when they said there was.
Starfield was made by a team of over 900 people and giant corporate investors, No Mans Sky was made by a team of 15 and a director that even sold his own house to pay to make the game, yet No Mans Sky is still being compared to Starfield 7 years after release lol I know which game I'm rooting for...
@@cacaulaymulkin7724 most ppl I've seen compare the gane to NMS, are the ppl who play it and didn't like it and went back. Me I never gave NMS a second thought after playing this game, because to me this is the better game. 🤷🏿♂️
Bathesda a lazy studio that relies on the modders to complete their incomplete games each time
No Man's sky is better if you have someone to progress with, otherwise I feel like I lost interest too fast. But if you're solo Starfield is the way to go
Can you explore/analyze a planet in starfield without landing on it? Like can you scan it from your ship and figure out if it’s worth landing on it? Because that would minimize the amount of time needed to simply jump to the planets that are actually interesting or useful.
I like how this guy says the hard to run cope for starfield. It's just not optimized todd and his ilk are AAA gaming royalty and it's going to take at least one more flop to knock off them high horse.
Guys try empyrion -> you can build ships block by block, it has good enough graphics, dozen of galaxies to explore and points of interest on planets .. its very additive.
It is unfair to compare No Man Sky at its current version vs Starfield. Lot of you may (or try to) forget that No Man Sky was launched in such a poor condition that Sony had to delist it temporarily (of cause the other game with such "honor" was Cyberpunk). NMS had gone thru many many patches & update before reach its current state.
NMS has gotten to the point where it's exceeded the original E3 trailers and eclipsed the original hype. The amount of work it takes to pull a 180 like that when looking at the game at release is unbelievable. It's the kind of dedication you'll never see at Bethesda. Never. They don't have the talent or the grit or a soul.
I own both games. After 211 hours I uninstalled Starfield and bought NMS. I'm about 30 hours in to NMS and really enjoy the freedom and immersion.
They’re both amazing, both in my top 5
Nine years. That's how long NMS has been out. In nine years this game has seen plenty of patches and updates to address its many problems. Nowadays it's running and looking far better than it did on its initial launch. Comparing NMS to Starfield is really premature seeing as to the fact that Starfield hasn't been out for even six months yet. In nine years and plenty of patches, updates, and DLC I seriously doubt any of us would even recognize this game at its base core anymore. Remember, Bethesda plans for this game to be a generational game and I for one expect huge updates that may rnd up leaving No Man's Sky in the dust.
Just over 7 years.
Yeah if NMS had more dynamic combat it would be the dream game for me! You could choose to shoot em up or stick to exploration, still an awesome game though!
Apples to oranges. The only thing these games have in common is space as a setting. Might as well be comparing Chutes and Ladders to Chess because they both move pieces around a board.
Goodness, they are two COMPLETELY different games.
I've never played Starfield, but admittedly the combat seems like it would be much better than NMS. That said, some of your criticisms of NMS combat aren't really founded. The multi-tool weapon upgrades allow for plenty of weapon fine-tuning. You can combine different weapons into one multi-tool and install upgrades to fine-tune how those weapons perform. You can then start to build a collection of multi-tools (up to six), each with two or three weapons installed and upgraded on them. So there are about 10 multi-tool weapons (including secondaries) and a player can hold all of them on their person and equip them to multi-tools that match the aesthetic they prefer.
NMS is what I wish Destiny 2 was.
No Man’s Sky is definitely way more complicated
The fun part is in your first 10 seconds of the video: They are not in direct competition as NMS is a indie survival game where there is virtually no RPG elements and everything is hinged on the procedural planet tech; while Starfield is a RPG game with some elements of space games. If you want to compare games, at least compare things that are comparable, like Mass Effect and Starfield.
Comparing Starfield to Elite, NMS or Star Citizen is as useful as compare a toaster to a blender.
One thing about No Man's Sky, leave a planet and then return to where you already landed: Same Area.
Starfield, leave and return to the same area: Completely randomized location baring story location spawned upon landing... was in city, moves a half a degree outside of where I was and saw forests beyond map edge for Starfield, landed there, Moon Crag zone with no sign of city... despite half the map having the same coordinates on the same planet as city I had been in 5 minutes prior...
Starfield has little to do with space, or exploration...It is a fast travel simulator to me....Sean Murray and team have done a bang up job bringing what they promised and more.....
N. M. S.. 🤵👰 S. F = Great space game.. make it Happen
NMS does need fuel to fly and recharge weapons too
I couldn't play more than 10 hours of No Man's Sky. Space isn't supposed to look like the inside of a gumball machine, people.
lol exactly little kid gamers
no man's sky, no cutscenes :)
I like No Man’s Sky more.
Because of the colors