Today's Content: 00:00 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 1 02:42 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 2 08:09 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 3 13:14 My Ex Found Out The Truth Of Me Not Cheating 19:17 UPDATE: My Ex Found Out The Truth Of Me Not Cheating Enjoy!!!
The first one is very long. It took her a long time despite all signs/red flags to realize he was cheating on her, that his ex was not his ex, that she was his temporary mistress only. She was blind to the red flags. He did not leave much stuff at her place and it sounds like none of it was important stuff. The Facebook post was never taken down so she should have considered that it was true. She should just give all the stuff he left behind to the Goodwill because to him, it was disposable just like she was disposable. She sounds crazy at times, trying over and over to get a response out of him, but she just refused to believe all the signs that he was done with her, was ghosting her. Who knows, maybe the wife knew all along he was cheating with OP and did not care, so long as he always comes back to her. The whole point of the Facebook post was perhaps to dump OP, who was too in denial to take a hint. She needs to now get on with her life and make sure the man in her next relationship is honest with her and not just cheating with her. I feel like this might happen again to her. I mean she works in television. Those people play games in relationships like it is a game of musical chairs. Even the ones behind the scenes and not in front of the camera.
that my thoughts. in a normal visitation the parents send the kids to each other. not 1 parent goes to the kids and sleeps in the bedroom. think he just got caught.
Story 1: As soon as she said he spent the night "in his kids' room" I rolled my eyes and was like, "Yeah, OK. Gullible, party of 1, your table at Spoiler Alert: You're the Side Chick is ready."
That last story kind of threw me for a loop. The entire friend group conspired to break them up because she was getting serious. I had to replay the video just to make sure I understood the age of the group. I thought this is High School drama type oh crap he's a grown woman literally executing a plan to break up a couple because reasons. Smh
One of my biggest disappointments in life was this. I thought after highschool I naively thought people act like adults, no more none sense highschool drama etc, that was not the case. Later I thought "perhaps after college...?" but in the end I realize it's not the age, it's the mindset of the people that creates these unnecessary bs dramas.
So OP says bf of one year does not have social media but yet she mentions that he had liked and posted to face book during this, also mentions at the end that she had yet to meet the ex or his children and they had been dating for a year ? That in itself should have been a big red flag.
It also sounded like it wasn't unusual for her to go weeks without seeing him. I wonder if he even thought they were dating? Sounds more like the occasional side chick.
She said that he is not the social media type, aka he have an account (s) but he doesn't look at them on daily basis. Completely different to not having an account at all
The last one, she misses the people of who she thought they were. Its not ok for friends to sabotage an otherwise healthy relationship, unless there is abuse or obvious cheating
Unfortunately this is a horrific reality for large number of women. I've lived through this several times where a GF friends sabotaged our relationship. A surprising amount of women both in & out of relationships will sabotage their friend's relationships out of spite, jealousy, or even just cuz they missed hanging out with their friend as much.
@@bhart3321 men too…there’s so many stories here of guys encouraging their friends to cheat/break up bc a woman is successful or making more money snd they are jealous and feed those insecurities to the boyfriends…
@@Sammvoy @B Hart that's why when you committe to someone you have to form a cercle with your bouth hands and don't let anyone else enter this cercle , two opinions are allready hard to make them work on the same path so how about more ? impossible , if i had a GF the first thing i would never accept is her talking to her friends about our realtionship issus and i want her to be the first one to defend me when someone talks crap about me in my back because i would never accept someone disrespecting my partner
Yikes, poor Alice. With “friends” like those, who needs enemies? That’s a seriously messed up thing they all planned out together. And why? Because their “friend” was TOO happy in her relationship too soon? I honestly do not understand why people would ever think their friend’s relationships was up to THEM, not the two people in it.... I was in the opposite situation once. A friend’s boyfriend started lying to her in order to make her rely on him only. He told her awful things like how we all just waited until she went to the bathroom to complain and call her awful names. When she finally told us I remember being so stunned...I mean how do you prove you DIDN’T do something? Luckily there were 5 of us and only 1 of him, and we all told her the same story because it was the truth, whereas the boyfriend kept changing his. In retrospect he was insanely toxic as a person. He moved across the country for her and then alienated her from anyone else in her life because he was so threatened by not being the most important thing to her...even at the time I remember feeling bad for her, because all she knew was that either her boyfriend of 2 years was lying, or her friends of 8 years were lying...and finding out the truth meant that either way she’d lose someone.
Yup classic controlling abusive behavior. Abusers want their partners completely dependent on them, makes it much harder for them to leave. How long was it before he started beating on her? Bet it wasn't long after he got her separated from her support system. Poor girl, this is why everyone could benefit from therapy even if you're well-adjusted it helps you see your blindspots so douchebags like this can't take advantage of them.
@@johnsmith-kt7ef I dont think havign friends influencing your relationship is any more or less mature. The right friends will genuinely have your best interest in mind, So them influencing your relationship so you leave a toxic and horrible person makes sense. But in this case Alice just had a shit friend group who wanted her to suffer
@@onyxstyx9552 Exactly this. She already knew he had cheated on someone once in the past. She accepted that he'd changed since then, but one of her friends saying that he basically *assaulted* her had to sow a lot of doubt in her mind. Then the other friends started backing the supposed victim up. Who was she going to believe? Her long-time friends or the man who had once cheated? I am rather floored by the "too soon" part. My parents knew each other for about a year before marrying. They're still together almost 40 years later. How long people date before "getting serious" isn't a good indication of how stable or healthy the relationship will be moving forward. What has to be taken into consideration is how much effort was made to *actually* get to know each other and address potential problems. This is why pre-marriage classes exist.
The second story reminds me of another one on reddit where a relationship ended due to slander. Only in that story the genders were reversed and the op didn't get back with her ex because she'd already moved on by the time he learned the truth. ... Personally, I'm not sure how I'd react in OP's place. I think I might still feel bitter against her.
Same. But it seems neither did anything extremely wrong or unredeemable. She didn’t cheat, hit him or get revenge. She just believed the wrong people. I think if there is no cheating involved and they happen to break up, it will be a much better breakup. I wish them well and happy for their clean chance without haters. 😊
mammyewok idk usually after getting burned by one type of friend you tend to avoid befriending that type of same toxic like people 🤷♀️ I believe she deserves a chance Because she was friends for years for her last group and they did outweigh him in terms of accusations. She was probably very hurt and couldn’t stand to see him face to face from all the damning evidence other people she trusted handed to her.
@@mammyewok If the GF breaks up after another “friend”says something again. Then no more chances and the lesson is learned from both. But from what I can see they both will have learned and she will be more cautious on what information she is given. For the GF if she ever believes something like that again,“Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”.
On the one hand- he's admitted to cheating in the past so she immediately suspected him. Plus these were people she knew for longer. On the other- she will likrly be walking on thin ice for awhile, that sort of thing breeds resentment. All and all, I hope for the best for the two.
Agreed. Even before op knew he was still with the other woman I was thinking it's possible she was just posting that stuff because she just wanted others to think they were together, like she was embarrassed to be a single mother and it's possible that's all it was. But even if that was it he was still ignoring op and totally disrespecting her feelings.
@@tonyblake7569 Actually, there is no divorce happened there and OP didn't know that she was a sidedished all along. Clearly OP is the victim of deception from a married man.
I was thinking poor OP, that Samantha girl sexually assaulted him and who knows if she had herpes or worse! I think that’s disgusting someone random does that to you! Sure OP got lucky she was clean but someone who sexually assaults you out of no where even with a kiss is very disgusting and deserves to sued for it!
Samantha sounds psychotic. I can't imagine the moral gymnastics required to justify an intention and action like that to yourself. The fact it was a group conspiracy just staggers the mind.
Second story wtf my niece who is in highschool is much more mature than that toxic friends group. I mean seriously it's hard to believe that those girls are in their 20s
I can believe it - hell one of my jobs turned nasty due to the replacement managers behaving more like a 'Mean Girls clique' - insulting and threatening employees that are not in their BFF circle (they have regularly mocked a couple of those BFF employee's behind their back). So not a professional bunch - and regular customers HAVE NOTICED this behavior (a number have already boycotted the place - even before current global situation).
I would find it hard to give Alice a second chance! She hurt the guy without hearing his side and then he spent 2 years being depressed. Very hard choice to make!
true but her entire friend group was filling her head up with lies. if all of your closest friends are telling you that you're being cheated on, i think most people would be inclined to believe them as you would assume they have your best interests at heart. and at least she apologized and realized how fucked up that situation was instead of just trying to act like it never happened lol
i mean, if all my friends who id known my whole life came telling me how he tried to make a move on one of them, knowing hed cheated in a previous relationship, obviously id listen to them over the guy id been with for considerably less time. they completely manipulated her in a psychotic way, even op said it made sense for her to believe them over him
I’m glad you read the updates, Lost Genre. Many other channels leave us hanging. I don’t subscribe to them. Nor do I subscribe to the TTS channels. You’re doing everything right, thank you. 👍 ETA: What a shitty bunch of friends in that last story, playing god with other people’s lives.
Yeah, a lot of reddit reading tend to chase the newest trend and leave us hanging. I actually start listening to lost genre after he waited for the 4th update about the plumber guy who left his manipulative family
@@emilybarclay8831 I've noticed people with just really good souls can't help themselves but give people the benefit of the doubt... even if it's obvious to others. Hindsight is 20/20.
In the whole “set up the guy for cheating” post... why did the idiot friends actually go through with a kiss? I mean... needless convolution of the plan... Like, go hang out with the guy alone, sure, but then just leave... there was never a need to get an actual kiss. Am I missing something? Was that plan just needlessly convoluted?
Chick logic: if they just lie, the friends ha e to realize they are horrible people. If the one girl makes a move, that’s juuuuust enough to kick in plausible deniability and believe they are being legit. Crazy? Of course. Standard for women? In 2020 yes.
I have a sneaking suspicion that her friend group was also there to either take a picture of the kiss and edited it in some way to use as “proof” or to say that they were “witnesses” to the cheating.
I'm just picturing a female version Janitor & the Brain Trust from Scrubs with similarly hilariously idiotic schemes. I've lived through similar situations several times, if your girl is only one in relationship of her friend group just walk away cuz they WILL sabotage you at every turn.
Last story: I understand your feelings for the relationship that was (been there, done that), but ... you've become foolish. She destroyed the old relationship and all trust along with it. She trusted others over you once. It will happen again. Bank on it.
@@theone8789 Huh? I think you're seriously misunderstanding this situation. She wasn't purposefully trying to hurt him or even acting selfishly. She did what would come naturally if she had been cheated on. She believed her lifelong friend instead of her boyfriend of a short period of time who had already admitted to an indiscretion in the past. She didn't even give him a hard time afterwards, just broke up and that was it. Now she's cut out the toxic group already. She reached out without guilting, blaming, deflecting, or minimizing. She acknowledged her error and the impact it had - on both her and him. She apologized profusely both in text and in person. She didn't pressure him, and acknowledged that she would accept if he did not want to continue. Life happens. The friends were shit. He'll need to lay some boundaries with respect to her ever being back in contact with them (including their explicit apology and support for their relationship). But this is a case where reconciliation simply makes sense. There simply isn't a good reason to assume this is "not for long".
@@smallpseudonym2844 yeah she loved him so much she didn't even want to hear his side of the story broke up over the phone and no needs a face to face for closure ....yeah no....he's an idiot for taking her back.
When you have trust issues, you can't see clearly anymore because you overreacted and over interpreted things so often, that you aren't sure what's a red flag and what's normal anymore
The second one is perfect, I mean what happened to OP was horrific(like others are saying who needs enemies with friends like Alice's right) but the ending was wholesome.
@Gi Gi yes. I said I smelled the setup as soon as Samantha said she wanted to be alone with him. What does that have to do with Alice, other than her friends were helping her set him up?
Don't take her back. Unless she proves 1000% that she's not going to be stupid like that again. I'd say the same thing if it were a guy, don't be stupid and believe everything you hear.
#1 there'd be no wedding invitation because he's actually still married. The out-of-state work? The weeks of not seeing him? Staying 'in the kids' room'? The "Celebrating X years!" It's too obvious. OP is the side chick.
Story 2: Keep your relationship private unless you're being abused. Some people will hate on you in secret (family included). When things are going good in your life it's best to keep it to yourself. Be proud of the accomplishments, but keep it to yourself. It's normal to want to share what's going on with you, but everyone doesn't want to see you succeed and go beyond where they are.
The last story was nice to hear. Neither one had done anything wrong but have the wrong "friends" nice to hear when good wins. Love your stories and listen every day. Your delivery is awesome. Thanks sincerely for your efforts and know you are appreciated at least by this lady from Texas! Cheers! 🤠❤
The wife doesn’t know you exist, he isn’t divorced, you’re his side chick and flop house so he doesn’t have to spring for a hotel or apartment when he’s in town
The fact that OP felt nothing in that split second of reading the email tells me that he isn’t trying to protect himself from further hurt. He feels nothing because he has moved on. I don’t see that he will get anything out of meeting up with this chick. I know she could, if only closure, but I’m not so sure OP should open himself up like that again. I think it would be best for him to just move on. She doesn’t sound like a very mature person and her friend group apparently never progressed beyond junior-high school.
Story 1: Honey, she's not the affair here, YOU are. They are still together, as is evidenced by the fact they LIVE together, and you're the side piece he keep at his out of town job.
Don’t meet with her don’t ever see her again she did not have the courtesy to break up with you in person nor to believe you when you told her it never happened I’m sorry this type of person is not worth your time you’re better than that MoveOn be strong
She should have commented "why would you make a post that seems like you're still with my boyfriend? Please dm me this makes me very uncomfortable" before talking to the bf at all. Cuz honestly, if she knows about her like he claims it'll be fine.
He's A Complete Fool! She convicted him without any real proof, just her friends (and I use the term lightly) word. he's got extremely Low self esteem in my opinion. I've seen firsthand what happens to guys like him. so sad!
@Zimi Just because she didn't say it, doesn't mean it didn't happened. And there is no way for OP to know. She says she didn't get into any relationships, but by her group of friends, I wouldn't be surprised if they took her out everynight to get her to just do one night stands to "get over his cheating ass".
@@NuRaLoQi even if that is the case, so what? They were not dating anymore. It doesn't do anything for her to lie about that other than set herself up to be torn down later for lying about it. I can understand being bitter, but she was also a victim here. All the cards were stacked against both of them by her toxic friends who she had no reason to doubt before.
@@NuRaLoQi but she didn't cheat? No one actually cheated in this story. She was lied to by people she trusted. If your going to throw that accusation at someone, the guy is a better fit since he admits he had cheated in the past. That is the only cheating that happened in the story and it was only relevant to explain why she might be quick to accept the lie that he cheated on her. Where is the accusation that she cheated coming from?
@@NuRaLoQi so you would believe the toxic "friends" because the only one who did any cheating was OP years before they meet. You might not be able to tell what cheaters think but you certainly can throw the accusation around like your a pro basketball player that somehow made it onto the team despite being incapable of making a shot
Alice is very kind for knowing that what happened wasn't fair on OP n doesn't push him as she knows he has a valid reason to be stand offish with her along with the relationship. The group of friends acting cold towards u was a big red flag as once a group starts shifting their behaviour especially in a negative sort of way it's a clear sign they are up to something that involves ur downfall. It is especially bad when it comes to girls as they love to mentally manipulate their targets n hold on to them til they feel like they succeeded in breaking them, boys would be alot more straightforward but they can also do the same.
The breakup story... that is awful, they are both victims in this story. I am glad they are dating again because this wasn’t her fault, she trusted her life long friends and they let her down through spite and jealousy. I wish them all the happiness in the world because they deserve it. X
Story 1: Now that his wife knows he's been cheating while telling the OW he's divorced, she needs to assist him in not being a liar anymore by divorcing him. Story 2: It's good that he's giving their relationship another chance. A lot of his GF's so-called friends conspired to sabotage her and end their relationship by setting him up for a false-accusation. That plus his confessed prior-history would make anyone believe the accusation. If anything, it shows how readily women will stab each other in the back. OP and his GF have hopefully learned how duplicitous people some 'friends' can be and are the wiser for it.
About Second Story, and if that story is true, you know... A fruit never falls too far from the tree. Op is saying that the woman was in the middle of a bunch of snakes since childhood, but she was never a snake herself neither she knew that her friends were snakes? From that group of people she was the only good natured and was always the victim and the friends were perfect actresses 24/7... I think this is fiction, or maybe OP is blind.
Even though first OP is terribly and detrimentally naive, she seems like a sweet person so I do feel bad for her. Hopefully she doesn’t get jaded but is also more discerning. Because my goodness all those red flags.
0:19 - Procrastinating: OP tried to build the relationship to trust BF (commendable); however, the question is how long should she wait for a resolution? Here's the lesson: patience has an expiration date. 13:30 - Alice's friends: True friends are people you trust will never hurt you. Alice's tribe was a bunch of toxic vipers. The lesson here is you can learn a lot about SO by the friends she keeps. Toxic friends should have been a huge red flag (GF must keep those former toxic friends out of her inner circle). BTW, evaluate your own "friends" as well.
I love your channel. You have really good commentary AND you do the Follow up/Edit videos. I like knowing what happened after the first Redit. Thank you
Hello LG ---sounds like he has his cake and side piece both? You gave him many, many chances. Time to let go. Send him on down the road. You deserve better. You have had all the red flags flying for a long time. 😣😣😣 #2 what happened at 19 was from an immature quasi ( not quite really adult ) youth. You were set up by her friend. Get rid of her and her toxic behavior and friend group. I really think your gf was in on it. Hope you stay happy with your decision.😉👍💖💖💖💖👵👵👵👵
That last one: I felt so burnt about it, I don't think I would give her the time of day to reply, much less start dating her again. I actually had a deep feeling of repulsion when he stated that they were dating again. This man is not going to be happy with her at all. That trust is broken, he is just confused and wanted to go back the way they were, but won't admit that it is done.
Well he had cheated before. The thing is both of them didn't date for years after. They both must have really liked each other. Now they can learn how to really communicate and respect each other.
Seriously? Isn't that a little much? She trusted the people who were at that point in time her lifelong childhood friends, over someone who admitted to having cheated in his last relationship and that she only knew for a year. By all accounts she made what *should* have been the correct move and is in all accounts an un-faultable one objectively. And when she found out the truth she cut out the lying sacks of shit from her life and set to trying to make amends with the person she loves and unintentionally wronged. She's even restarted their entire relationship over from step one with herself at a heavy disadvantage, which has to be rather painful. I don't think you can do much more else to try and regain anyone's trust regardless of the relationship type. And as for the guy, I honestly seriously doubt he'll ever be truly fully happy with any woman anymore after that experience, he'll always doubt every woman and certainly every woman's friend group now and ultimately unless he can make peace with his old relationship and trauma one way or another he'll never be able to fully move on.
First story, gurl, run. You're the mistress in the relationship. He doesn't need your time. Second story, don't jump into a relationship with her that quickly. If she's willing to destroy her relationship with you because of her friends, who knows what will happen?
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
Kudos to her for coming up with such a brilliantly believable story.... he fell for it hook line and sinker.... only a matter of time before she truly finds what she is looking for and dumps him again
How? He was literally there when she molested him before telling that story and she had no reason not to believe it. If your best friend your whole life told you your ex cheater partner forced themself on them who are you going to believe? And all your friends agree that they weren't acting right? It takes a lot of time and effort to gain trust back and she would have an easier time getting that guy you think she wants
I had a situation similar to the second OP… always remember how she abandoned you. She may not have “dated” but she definitely banged other guys. Can you really marry someone like that? Some who will abandon you at the drop of a hat? Run OP 2 run fast and run far.
Last story op shouldn't get back with his ex, it says alot about you if you choose to believe friends who are intentionally distancing themselves from your so and making them feel out than your so who you spent nearly a year with.
That first story that poor woman didn’t have much self esteem to not just leave him when that pic was put up after the “ex” didn’t take them down. He liked it and he didn’t know what it said? Come on now. We all have a responsibility to take care of ourselves.
I wouldn’t get back with the girl in the second story. If she is so easily swayed, she never really had his back in the first place. She’s weak minded. You want a weak person as your partner? She’s gonna go back to those friends eventually because they’re all she knows. She wasn’t even owed that meeting. OP WILL REGRET TAKING THIS WEAK SAUCE BACK.
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
The reason the word frenemy exists (was coined) is because there really are people like that. If you trust people, it is hard to believe that your friends are not your real friends but are actually sabotaging you. We are reluctant to believe that someone is a frenemy, a friend who is only a friend so they can use and hurt you.
Second story: First intuition is often right, at least for me, so I'd probably either meet with her and put a definitive end to things or don't meet up at all. I'm either interested from the get go or will never be and if I think about it and feel nothing, there probably is nothing. At least this story had a happy ending for a change, doesn't happen too often with these stories.
Story 2. The second there is any kind of drama he will get dumped via a text of a call. I wouldn't go back and date anyone who did that to me prior. She thought very little of him and his character. At least a little of that will be lingering in there somewhere. This happened when she turned to her friends and repeated something he told her in confidence. They then took advantage and used it against them both. I have zero tolerance for being talked about behind my back by an SO. Those conversations are private. In my 28 yr relationship, we both don't do that. We never air our laundry outside.
Obviously the guy in the first story is cheating with his ex. Dump him he has no interest or respect for OP. There's no point in meeting up with Alice. Too much time has gone past, things wouldn't be the same even if they try to get together. My response would be "You chose to believe lies about me and dump me. Things are over between us, I've moved on, get over it."
Yet another story about a woman who has a miserable, destructive "friend" group. Then, she expects to be forgiven for her actions because it's not her, it's her friends. She chose her friends, didn't she?
Finally a story with a nice outcome! That must have been really hard on the woman to have trusted her friends like that and been so badly betrayed! But she moved on and the guy let go of any macho bs and was genuinely mature about it. 👌
2nd story: if they get together again make sure the gf go no contact with her old friends. Then set up each friend to meet individually to confront them one by one, especially Samantha. Also if they actually get married make sure to never invite her old friends, but also piss them off by spreading wedding photos all over their social media.
Story 2: As the saying goes "With friends like that, who needs enemies?"... what a toxic group of horrible people. Dropping them all like a bad habit was the best thing she could have done.
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
Definitely wouldn't have gotten back with the girl that left me. It just goes to show that she would take someone else's word and wouldn't even give me a chance to explain. I'd always expect her not to believe what I say if some other issue would arise.
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
@@Heartrose7 Still, If she felt that way, then she shouldn't have gotten with him in the first place. Especially if she wasn' going to believe him if something like that came up. If she got with him, then it's safe to say she was overlooking whatever he did in the past. But the first sign of trouble, she didn't even give him a chance to properly explain himself. I know it's her life long friends, but she didn't even break up with him like an adult. As the guy above said, as soon as there's another "he's cheating on you" incident, no matter if it's true or not, she's most likely going to believe some else over him. Doesn't matter that he owned up to what he did and wants to be a better person, right? GTFOH I would have told her to kick rocks and go make up with those ass holes that tires to ruin her life.
@@EclipseIsUp You and the other commenter must seriously not have lifelong friends. So allow me to give you context as to why the odds are much lower than you think of that repeating. By letting you understand what she had, has lost and how that affects her and him. For people like me and her who have had friends that we have grown up with and trusted for our entire lives, we don't view them as just friends, they're genuinely family to us, so while we may say "lifelong friends" to prevent confusion when talking to strangers, in reality you're really dealing with a close knit and long lived family unit with ties thicker than blood. And that is why without a proof or a tangibly plausible reason to doubt what they're saying, other parties have very little to no chance of winning against them in a situation like that, regardless of what they try to say in defense. You will need CCTV/video proof and-or the bloodless family admitting to the wrongdoing to convince people like me otherwise, because it is genuinely a family vs an outsider. That was why he initially lost so easily without even another word. How it affects the two of them now is that: she now has no one else other than him (if he accepts her that is) that she can or is willing to trust anymore. Her lifelong friends, her bloodless family, outright betrayed her. For years, to her face and behind her back. Her ability to trust others after a betrayal that significant are now rather crippled, and it's now in her mind that: *if my own family would lie to me about him, then others are almost guaranteed to be lying to me about him*. Now the position is reversed, now, in order for her to believe anything negative about him, the accuser will need a CCTV/video recording and-or admission of guilt from him. I think that's the best way I can explain it. And no, no part of this is overstated or said in jest, what their betrayal did to that woman was second only to certain domestic atrocities.
@@EclipseIsUp Again, the problem here is not that she believed her friends over his versions, that's understandable. The guy had antecedents and it was a good plan on her shitty friends part. What she really did wrong was the way she shut him off. She broke by phone, never giving him the opportunity to explain face to face, that's cowardice and says a lot about her (in a bad way) and her values. She wasn't a teenager, that was an adult woman. She mistreated him without real evidence , because you might believe your friends more than your boyfriend, but for revenge or harsh reactions you need real evidence. You lost the trust on him for what your friends said, that's OK, finish things, but she mistreated him on a "his words against her words" case scenario, never giving him the chance to directly confront her. That's something stupid, and this guy is a SIMP with low self esteem who believes he could not get anything better. Poor guy!
I think that the girl whose friends set up a fake cheating scenario shouldn’t get even a moment of your time, drop her like a hot potato save yourself from future drop from her when something else happens
@Gi Gi Yeah but, she didn't use her head until the truth came out. I would be a little sus when my friend immediately called me and told me she was kissed by my SO.
Normally I would agree to dumping her and leaving her in the dust, but given the circumstances and both her history with her friends and OP's past, I wouldn't blame her for her actions. As long as OP can work through all of this and he's mentally able, i'd say they should get Back together and spite the group for what they did. Revenge on the people who did what they did to sabotage two people's happiness and one of them being a friend, showing you're back together and better off without them seems like the best ending for them. Even better if they can sabotage all of them as payback as a couple.
@Gi Gi she didn't even let him talk to tell his side of the story. That's what bothers me about the whole thing regardless of the circumstances. What if this situation happened again. Is she going to talk to him about it 1st or just remember that he cheated once a few relationships ago.
Second story: There are some things that your new SO just doesn't need (deserve) to know. So much could have been avoided if you had just kept your mouth shut. The fact that it happened once, two years before meeting your current makes it irrelevant or unnecessary info.
@@kitsumekat: If he's a repeat offender, and it's known the SO will find out one way or the other. I get the impression that this was a one time thing and he regrets it. One moment of poor judgement should not cloud the future. All he's doing is instilling doubt before he's had a chance to show his true self.
@@whistlerwind7422 They didn't start treating him badly till he told her about the past cheating. Then they get it in their minds to frame him with that.
Normally I'd say don't give her a chance, she refused to believe you. That being said... this was a conspiracy, with many people intentionally pushing for the break up. I'd say go out and try.
Yeah it never ends well, Either she over compensates & gets real clingy or doesn't call him on shady behavior and he loses respect for her or she starts feeling inadequate & like she doesn't deserve him & ends up cheating on him to prove herself right. Have had both happen to me.
she didn’t give him a chance and took someone else’s word over his with no hesitation. OP should be very cautious because she’s not someone who will have his back.
Today's Content:
00:00 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 1
02:42 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 2
08:09 My Boyfriend Is Cheating On Me With His Ex - Part 3
13:14 My Ex Found Out The Truth Of Me Not Cheating
19:17 UPDATE: My Ex Found Out The Truth Of Me Not Cheating
Enjoy!!!
Thanks my man.
The first one is very long. It took her a long time despite all signs/red flags to realize he was cheating on her, that his ex was not his ex, that she was his temporary mistress only.
She was blind to the red flags. He did not leave much stuff at her place and it sounds like none of it was important stuff. The Facebook post was never taken down so she should have considered that it was true. She should just give all the stuff he left behind to the Goodwill because to him, it was disposable just like she was disposable.
She sounds crazy at times, trying over and over to get a response out of him, but she just refused to believe all the signs that he was done with her, was ghosting her.
Who knows, maybe the wife knew all along he was cheating with OP and did not care, so long as he always comes back to her. The whole point of the Facebook post was perhaps to dump OP, who was too in denial to take a hint.
She needs to now get on with her life and make sure the man in her next relationship is honest with her and not just cheating with her. I feel like this might happen again to her. I mean she works in television. Those people play games in relationships like it is a game of musical chairs. Even the ones behind the scenes and not in front of the camera.
Op get some self respect and morality .....
“We have an update” AKA the 4 sweetest words on UA-cam
Sometimes it is
@@femalepapyrus true sometimes the update is unsatisfying or is a bad one
First OP is really the side chick and doesn't know it
that my thoughts. in a normal visitation the parents send the kids to each other. not 1 parent goes to the kids and sleeps in the bedroom. think he just got caught.
Deffo the side chick
Exactly
Especially since he travels for work. He probably tells his wife he's on business trips when he's seeing her.
Called it too. So sad but happy she found out.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like in the second story
Truth. The whole group. Wow that's ass. This is some jerry springer type shit.
I don't understand their reasoning for spoiling it for her......and him.
@@MrBeevee5 probably jealousy with a misguided/fucked up reasoning of looking out for their friend
Story 1: As soon as she said he spent the night "in his kids' room" I rolled my eyes and was like, "Yeah, OK. Gullible, party of 1, your table at Spoiler Alert: You're the Side Chick is ready."
heard that line before!
Gosh, I was so naive!
Damn I really wanted to believe in him too and that the title was a lie
😂🤣
First story....he isn’t cheating on OP. He’s cheating on his family with OP. Wake uuuppp
there's no difference
He is cheating in both sides, because he lie to both parts
yeah she's so dmb.
She found out that she was the side chick
That last story.... I had to go back to the beginning to see how old they were. You'd swear this was straight outta high school or something. Yesh...
That last story kind of threw me for a loop. The entire friend group conspired to break them up because she was getting serious. I had to replay the video just to make sure I understood the age of the group. I thought this is High School drama type oh crap he's a grown woman literally executing a plan to break up a couple because reasons. Smh
Misery loves company.
One of my biggest disappointments in life was this. I thought after highschool I naively thought people act like adults, no more none sense highschool drama etc, that was not the case. Later I thought "perhaps after college...?" but in the end I realize it's not the age, it's the mindset of the people that creates these unnecessary bs dramas.
He's a grown woman😂😂😂😂😂
my bad to funny
I don't need to know the age. 30 year old women act that way and tons of divorcees do
High school never ends! All the total dicks, all the stuck up chicks, so superficial so immature! Lol
First story; sounds like he's married to the other woman still, and you're the side piece. Maybe true, maybe not. You should have contacted her.
@@julier.1902 both of you have posted this despite the video containing the update? 🤷♀️
Amazing that he even let her know about the "mother of his children".
@@trillionbones89 I normally write my comments while watching, so they are the most honest, off the cuff replies.
So OP says bf of one year does not have social media but yet she mentions that he had liked and posted to face book during this, also mentions at the end that she had yet to meet the ex or his children and they had been dating for a year ? That in itself should have been a big red flag.
It also sounded like it wasn't unusual for her to go weeks without seeing him. I wonder if he even thought they were dating? Sounds more like the occasional side chick.
Yes this is all werid sounds more like a side chick
I thought it said hes not active on social media
She said that he is not the social media type, aka he have an account (s) but he doesn't look at them on daily basis.
Completely different to not having an account at all
@@indiashante1560 Me too
The last one, she misses the people of who she thought they were. Its not ok for friends to sabotage an otherwise healthy relationship, unless there is abuse or obvious cheating
Unfortunately this is a horrific reality for large number of women. I've lived through this several times where a GF friends sabotaged our relationship. A surprising amount of women both in & out of relationships will sabotage their friend's relationships out of spite, jealousy, or even just cuz they missed hanging out with their friend as much.
@@bhart3321 men too…there’s so many stories here of guys encouraging their friends to cheat/break up bc a woman is successful or making more money snd they are jealous and feed those insecurities to the boyfriends…
@@bhart3321 Men too, stop trying to spin the narrative that women are inherently more mean, and catty than men.
@@Sammvoy @B Hart that's why when you committe to someone you have to form a cercle with your bouth hands and don't let anyone else enter this cercle , two opinions are allready hard to make them work on the same path so how about more ? impossible , if i had a GF the first thing i would never accept is her talking to her friends about our realtionship issus and i want her to be the first one to defend me when someone talks crap about me in my back because i would never accept someone disrespecting my partner
Yikes, poor Alice. With “friends” like those, who needs enemies? That’s a seriously messed up thing they all planned out together. And why? Because their “friend” was TOO happy in her relationship too soon? I honestly do not understand why people would ever think their friend’s relationships was up to THEM, not the two people in it....
I was in the opposite situation once. A friend’s boyfriend started lying to her in order to make her rely on him only. He told her awful things like how we all just waited until she went to the bathroom to complain and call her awful names. When she finally told us I remember being so stunned...I mean how do you prove you DIDN’T do something? Luckily there were 5 of us and only 1 of him, and we all told her the same story because it was the truth, whereas the boyfriend kept changing his. In retrospect he was insanely toxic as a person. He moved across the country for her and then alienated her from anyone else in her life because he was so threatened by not being the most important thing to her...even at the time I remember feeling bad for her, because all she knew was that either her boyfriend of 2 years was lying, or her friends of 8 years were lying...and finding out the truth meant that either way she’d lose someone.
So who did she believe?
Yup classic controlling abusive behavior. Abusers want their partners completely dependent on them, makes it much harder for them to leave. How long was it before he started beating on her? Bet it wasn't long after he got her separated from her support system. Poor girl, this is why everyone could benefit from therapy even if you're well-adjusted it helps you see your blindspots so douchebags like this can't take advantage of them.
tbh she is a grown woman and acted lke a 15 year old for allowing her friends to influence her relationship...
@@johnsmith-kt7ef I dont think havign friends influencing your relationship is any more or less mature. The right friends will genuinely have your best interest in mind, So them influencing your relationship so you leave a toxic and horrible person makes sense. But in this case Alice just had a shit friend group who wanted her to suffer
@@onyxstyx9552 Exactly this. She already knew he had cheated on someone once in the past. She accepted that he'd changed since then, but one of her friends saying that he basically *assaulted* her had to sow a lot of doubt in her mind. Then the other friends started backing the supposed victim up. Who was she going to believe? Her long-time friends or the man who had once cheated?
I am rather floored by the "too soon" part. My parents knew each other for about a year before marrying. They're still together almost 40 years later. How long people date before "getting serious" isn't a good indication of how stable or healthy the relationship will be moving forward. What has to be taken into consideration is how much effort was made to *actually* get to know each other and address potential problems. This is why pre-marriage classes exist.
The second story reminds me of another one on reddit where a relationship ended due to slander. Only in that story the genders were reversed and the op didn't get back with her ex because she'd already moved on by the time he learned the truth.
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Personally, I'm not sure how I'd react in OP's place. I think I might still feel bitter against her.
Yeah I wish he do some petty revenge f that b
The last one, well, I hope it works out for him and doesn't regret it later.
Same. But it seems neither did anything extremely wrong or unredeemable. She didn’t cheat, hit him or get revenge. She just believed the wrong people. I think if there is no cheating involved and they happen to break up, it will be a much better breakup. I wish them well and happy for their clean chance without haters. 😊
what if another 'friend' does something similar again?the girl didnt even talk to him.i think ops gonna regret getting back together..
mammyewok idk usually after getting burned by one type of friend you tend to avoid befriending that type of same toxic like people 🤷♀️
I believe she deserves a chance Because she was friends for years for her last group and they did outweigh him in terms of accusations. She was probably very hurt and couldn’t stand to see him face to face from all the damning evidence other people she trusted handed to her.
@@mammyewok If the GF breaks up after another “friend”says something again. Then no more chances and the lesson is learned from both. But from what I can see they both will have learned and she will be more cautious on what information she is given. For the GF if she ever believes something like that again,“Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”.
On the one hand- he's admitted to cheating in the past so she immediately suspected him. Plus these were people she knew for longer. On the other- she will likrly be walking on thin ice for awhile, that sort of thing breeds resentment. All and all, I hope for the best for the two.
The girl in the first story needs to let him go..... he is ignoring you... so ignore him back.... he doesn't care... stop begging him...
Agreed. He's showing you who he really is. Believe him..
Yeah once he didn’t call and took forever answering texts I knew it was a bad sign
@@amyrussell860 Well, in the end she didn't know she was a mistress and that man is still married with their children.
Agreed. Even before op knew he was still with the other woman I was thinking it's possible she was just posting that stuff because she just wanted others to think they were together, like she was embarrassed to be a single mother and it's possible that's all it was. But even if that was it he was still ignoring op and totally disrespecting her feelings.
@@tonyblake7569 Actually, there is no divorce happened there and OP didn't know that she was a sidedished all along. Clearly OP is the victim of deception from a married man.
Dawg are we gonna gloss over the casual sexual assault we just heard in the second story?😭
Amen but we live in a society of double standards as he is a man so it doesn't count. (SARCASM)
It happened to a male so in modern society it doesn't matter
This is when its ok to slap a chick. Like wth? Better be glad that wasnt my boy
We already know that piece of trash got her despicable arse kicked to the curb in the end so that's something I guess?
I was thinking poor OP, that Samantha girl sexually assaulted him and who knows if she had herpes or worse! I think that’s disgusting someone random does that to you! Sure OP got lucky she was clean but someone who sexually assaults you out of no where even with a kiss is very disgusting and deserves to sued for it!
Samantha sounds psychotic. I can't imagine the moral gymnastics required to justify an intention and action like that to yourself. The fact it was a group conspiracy just staggers the mind.
Second story wtf my niece who is in highschool is much more mature than that toxic friends group. I mean seriously it's hard to believe that those girls are in their 20s
It's not. Some people never leave highschool, like people in their 40s still pulling this stuff.
Uh, I know of a few people who I went to college with who have that high-schooler mentality.
Trust me it happens, dealt with it from a 20-year-old bitch.
Not really. I had to deal with that.
I can believe it - hell one of my jobs turned nasty due to the replacement managers behaving more like a 'Mean Girls clique' - insulting and threatening employees that are not in their BFF circle (they have regularly mocked a couple of those BFF employee's behind their back). So not a professional bunch - and regular customers HAVE NOTICED this behavior (a number have already boycotted the place - even before current global situation).
Lol, I can't BELIEVE how long it took OP to realise she was the side piece! 😂
I would find it hard to give Alice a second chance! She hurt the guy without hearing his side and then he spent 2 years being depressed. Very hard choice to make!
Would not take that b back!
true but her entire friend group was filling her head up with lies. if all of your closest friends are telling you that you're being cheated on, i think most people would be inclined to believe them as you would assume they have your best interests at heart. and at least she apologized and realized how fucked up that situation was instead of just trying to act like it never happened lol
i mean, if all my friends who id known my whole life came telling me how he tried to make a move on one of them, knowing hed cheated in a previous relationship, obviously id listen to them over the guy id been with for considerably less time. they completely manipulated her in a psychotic way, even op said it made sense for her to believe them over him
I’m glad you read the updates, Lost Genre. Many other channels leave us hanging. I don’t subscribe to them. Nor do I subscribe to the TTS channels. You’re doing everything right, thank you. 👍
ETA: What a shitty bunch of friends in that last story, playing god with other people’s lives.
Yeah, a lot of reddit reading tend to chase the newest trend and leave us hanging. I actually start listening to lost genre after he waited for the 4th update about the plumber guy who left his manipulative family
@@kos2919 it's been a hot second and can't remember which video that is, do you have the link?
Only meet with the ex if she ghosts all her friends, otherwise it is meaningless
Yep. Or if they confront some of the friends. Record their reaction and see how well they react with their friend backing them up
Sounds like she's cut them all out. Only friends she has left weren't in the original group.
That first op sounds like a awesome lady. I hope she finds the love she deserves
Well I Guess I feel bad for the kids
They are now dealing with this toxic marriage
She sounds thirsty because she's taking to much prioritizing someone who doesn't give af
She seems nice and all but she must be as thick as a brick to not realise she’s the affair partner and his ex was never divorced
@@emilybarclay8831 I've noticed people with just really good souls can't help themselves but give people the benefit of the doubt... even if it's obvious to others. Hindsight is 20/20.
In the whole “set up the guy for cheating” post... why did the idiot friends actually go through with a kiss? I mean... needless convolution of the plan... Like, go hang out with the guy alone, sure, but then just leave... there was never a need to get an actual kiss.
Am I missing something? Was that plan just needlessly convoluted?
I'd say needlessly convoluted, but these people clearly weren't normal because, if they were, they never would've done this in the first place.
Chick logic: if they just lie, the friends ha e to realize they are horrible people. If the one girl makes a move, that’s juuuuust enough to kick in plausible deniability and believe they are being legit. Crazy? Of course. Standard for women? In 2020 yes.
I mean, we are talking about people that wanted to ruin their own "friend's" happiness. We aren't exactly talking about masterminds here
I have a sneaking suspicion that her friend group was also there to either take a picture of the kiss and edited it in some way to use as “proof” or to say that they were “witnesses” to the cheating.
I'm just picturing a female version Janitor & the Brain Trust from Scrubs with similarly hilariously idiotic schemes. I've lived through similar situations several times, if your girl is only one in relationship of her friend group just walk away cuz they WILL sabotage you at every turn.
Last story: I understand your feelings for the relationship that was (been there, done that), but ... you've become foolish. She destroyed the old relationship and all trust along with it. She trusted others over you once. It will happen again. Bank on it.
I wouldn’t have taken back the girlfriend in the last story, but if it works for him I can’t knock it.
Yeah not for long.
@@theone8789 Huh? I think you're seriously misunderstanding this situation. She wasn't purposefully trying to hurt him or even acting selfishly. She did what would come naturally if she had been cheated on. She believed her lifelong friend instead of her boyfriend of a short period of time who had already admitted to an indiscretion in the past. She didn't even give him a hard time afterwards, just broke up and that was it.
Now she's cut out the toxic group already. She reached out without guilting, blaming, deflecting, or minimizing. She acknowledged her error and the impact it had - on both her and him. She apologized profusely both in text and in person. She didn't pressure him, and acknowledged that she would accept if he did not want to continue.
Life happens. The friends were shit. He'll need to lay some boundaries with respect to her ever being back in contact with them (including their explicit apology and support for their relationship). But this is a case where reconciliation simply makes sense. There simply isn't a good reason to assume this is "not for long".
@@smallpseudonym2844 yeah she loved him so much she didn't even want to hear his side of the story broke up over the phone and no needs a face to face for closure ....yeah no....he's an idiot for taking her back.
The first story is so frustrating. Shes so naive. Its OBVIOIS shes the side chick. How can she not get it
When you have trust issues, you can't see clearly anymore because you overreacted and over interpreted things so often, that you aren't sure what's a red flag and what's normal anymore
First story + update: When the slap upside your head, that's heading your way, finally lands, it's gonna be a doozy, cause you can't take a hint.
Right lol
The second one is perfect, I mean what happened to OP was horrific(like others are saying who needs enemies with friends like Alice's right) but the ending was wholesome.
Samantha and the other friends set him up. Don't take Alice back, unless she gets rid of those "friends".
even then,he shouldnt.she showed him who she was..
@Gi Gi I smelled that setup as soon as he mentioned Samantha wanted to be alone with him...
@Gi Gi yes. I said I smelled the setup as soon as Samantha said she wanted to be alone with him. What does that have to do with Alice, other than her friends were helping her set him up?
@Gi Gi OIC. 😁
Don't take her back. Unless she proves 1000% that she's not going to be stupid like that again. I'd say the same thing if it were a guy, don't be stupid and believe everything you hear.
#1 When someone shows you who they really are believe them. Dump him before your invitation to their wedding arrives.
#1 there'd be no wedding invitation because he's actually still married. The out-of-state work? The weeks of not seeing him? Staying 'in the kids' room'? The "Celebrating X years!" It's too obvious. OP is the side chick.
That first story happened to me as well as soon as I found out I dipped and told the wife and his mom.
I’d have not given her a second chance, especially considering she wouldn’t even hear you out.
I agree... I don't think it will last...
Story 2: Keep your relationship private unless you're being abused. Some people will hate on you in secret (family included). When things are going good in your life it's best to keep it to yourself. Be proud of the accomplishments, but keep it to yourself. It's normal to want to share what's going on with you, but everyone doesn't want to see you succeed and go beyond where they are.
I've had people literally try to kill me that treated me better than that supposed friend group.
The last story was nice to hear. Neither one had done anything wrong but have the wrong "friends" nice to hear when good wins.
Love your stories and listen every day. Your delivery is awesome. Thanks sincerely for your efforts and know you are appreciated at least by this lady from Texas!
Cheers!
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Condemning someone without proof isn't exactly doing anything right either...
Wrong friends and possibly too easily manipulated, which could be an issue going forward.
The wife doesn’t know you exist, he isn’t divorced, you’re his side chick and flop house so he doesn’t have to spring for a hotel or apartment when he’s in town
The fact that OP felt nothing in that split second of reading the email tells me that he isn’t trying to protect himself from further hurt. He feels nothing because he has moved on. I don’t see that he will get anything out of meeting up with this chick. I know she could, if only closure, but I’m not so sure OP should open himself up like that again. I think it would be best for him to just move on. She doesn’t sound like a very mature person and her friend group apparently never progressed beyond junior-high school.
Story 1: Honey, she's not the affair here, YOU are. They are still together, as is evidenced by the fact they LIVE together, and you're the side piece he keep at his out of town job.
Don’t meet with her don’t ever see her again she did not have the courtesy to break up with you in person nor to believe you when you told her it never happened I’m sorry this type of person is not worth your time you’re better than that MoveOn be strong
OP in the first story is really dumb for not realizing she’s the side woman and this dude is married, he couldn’t have made it more obvious 💀
She should have commented "why would you make a post that seems like you're still with my boyfriend? Please dm me this makes me very uncomfortable" before talking to the bf at all. Cuz honestly, if she knows about her like he claims it'll be fine.
When a man show you who he is,belive him.
That's people in general. Actions speak louder than words.
He's A Complete Fool! She convicted him without any real proof, just her friends (and I use the term lightly) word. he's got extremely Low self esteem in my opinion. I've seen firsthand what happens to guys like him. so sad!
@Zimi Just because she didn't say it, doesn't mean it didn't happened. And there is no way for OP to know. She says she didn't get into any relationships, but by her group of friends, I wouldn't be surprised if they took her out everynight to get her to just do one night stands to "get over his cheating ass".
@@NuRaLoQi even if that is the case, so what? They were not dating anymore. It doesn't do anything for her to lie about that other than set herself up to be torn down later for lying about it. I can understand being bitter, but she was also a victim here. All the cards were stacked against both of them by her toxic friends who she had no reason to doubt before.
@@Gatesealer89 I don't presume to know how or why a liar and a cheater thinks, other than they lie and cheat constantly
@@NuRaLoQi but she didn't cheat? No one actually cheated in this story. She was lied to by people she trusted. If your going to throw that accusation at someone, the guy is a better fit since he admits he had cheated in the past. That is the only cheating that happened in the story and it was only relevant to explain why she might be quick to accept the lie that he cheated on her. Where is the accusation that she cheated coming from?
@@NuRaLoQi so you would believe the toxic "friends" because the only one who did any cheating was OP years before they meet. You might not be able to tell what cheaters think but you certainly can throw the accusation around like your a pro basketball player that somehow made it onto the team despite being incapable of making a shot
Second op..... Keep it moving... You shouldn't have even replied.
Alice is very kind for knowing that what happened wasn't fair on OP n doesn't push him as she knows he has a valid reason to be stand offish with her along with the relationship. The group of friends acting cold towards u was a big red flag as once a group starts shifting their behaviour especially in a negative sort of way it's a clear sign they are up to something that involves ur downfall. It is especially bad when it comes to girls as they love to mentally manipulate their targets n hold on to them til they feel like they succeeded in breaking them, boys would be alot more straightforward but they can also do the same.
The breakup story... that is awful, they are both victims in this story. I am glad they are dating again because this wasn’t her fault, she trusted her life long friends and they let her down through spite and jealousy. I wish them all the happiness in the world because they deserve it. X
Story 1: Now that his wife knows he's been cheating while telling the OW he's divorced, she needs to assist him in not being a liar anymore by divorcing him.
Story 2: It's good that he's giving their relationship another chance. A lot of his GF's so-called friends conspired to sabotage her and end their relationship by setting him up for a false-accusation. That plus his confessed prior-history would make anyone believe the accusation. If anything, it shows how readily women will stab each other in the back. OP and his GF have hopefully learned how duplicitous people some 'friends' can be and are the wiser for it.
About Second Story, and if that story is true, you know... A fruit never falls too far from the tree.
Op is saying that the woman was in the middle of a bunch of snakes since childhood, but she was never a snake herself neither she knew that her friends were snakes? From that group of people she was the only good natured and was always the victim and the friends were perfect actresses 24/7... I think this is fiction, or maybe OP is blind.
Even though first OP is terribly and detrimentally naive, she seems like a sweet person so I do feel bad for her. Hopefully she doesn’t get jaded but is also more discerning. Because my goodness all those red flags.
0:19 - Procrastinating: OP tried to build the relationship to trust BF (commendable); however, the question is how long should she wait for a resolution? Here's the lesson: patience has an expiration date.
13:30 - Alice's friends: True friends are people you trust will never hurt you. Alice's tribe was a bunch of toxic vipers. The lesson here is you can learn a lot about SO by the friends she keeps. Toxic friends should have been a huge red flag (GF must keep those former toxic friends out of her inner circle). BTW, evaluate your own "friends" as well.
I love your channel. You have really good commentary AND you do the Follow up/Edit videos. I like knowing what happened after the first Redit. Thank you
Thank you Destinations! I hope you keep enjoying my channel :)
Hello LG ---sounds like he has his cake and side piece both? You gave him many, many chances. Time to let go. Send him on down the road. You deserve better. You have had all the red flags flying for a long time. 😣😣😣 #2 what happened at 19 was from an immature quasi ( not quite really adult ) youth. You were set up by her friend. Get rid of her and her toxic behavior and friend group. I really think your gf was in on it. Hope you stay happy with your decision.😉👍💖💖💖💖👵👵👵👵
That last one: I felt so burnt about it, I don't think I would give her the time of day to reply, much less start dating her again. I actually had a deep feeling of repulsion when he stated that they were dating again. This man is not going to be happy with her at all. That trust is broken, he is just confused and wanted to go back the way they were, but won't admit that it is done.
Well he had cheated before. The thing is both of them didn't date for years after. They both must have really liked each other. Now they can learn how to really communicate and respect each other.
Seriously? Isn't that a little much? She trusted the people who were at that point in time her lifelong childhood friends, over someone who admitted to having cheated in his last relationship and that she only knew for a year. By all accounts she made what *should* have been the correct move and is in all accounts an un-faultable one objectively. And when she found out the truth she cut out the lying sacks of shit from her life and set to trying to make amends with the person she loves and unintentionally wronged. She's even restarted their entire relationship over from step one with herself at a heavy disadvantage, which has to be rather painful. I don't think you can do much more else to try and regain anyone's trust regardless of the relationship type.
And as for the guy, I honestly seriously doubt he'll ever be truly fully happy with any woman anymore after that experience, he'll always doubt every woman and certainly every woman's friend group now and ultimately unless he can make peace with his old relationship and trauma one way or another he'll never be able to fully move on.
@Red Pill Panda
I was feeling the same way. Like why bro? I wouldn’t take that bitch back either 🤨
First story, gurl, run. You're the mistress in the relationship. He doesn't need your time.
Second story, don't jump into a relationship with her that quickly. If she's willing to destroy her relationship with you because of her friends, who knows what will happen?
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
Kudos to her for coming up with such a brilliantly believable story.... he fell for it hook line and sinker.... only a matter of time before she truly finds what she is looking for and dumps him again
How? He was literally there when she molested him before telling that story and she had no reason not to believe it. If your best friend your whole life told you your ex cheater partner forced themself on them who are you going to believe? And all your friends agree that they weren't acting right? It takes a lot of time and effort to gain trust back and she would have an easier time getting that guy you think she wants
Say it louder for the people in the back.
I am crying. So happy you 2 got back together. Friends and family can be jealous.💖💝❤️❤️❤️
2nd story: no trust, never again
Story One: Putz, if she's that guilible with her friends, she's not trustworthy.
I had a situation similar to the second OP… always remember how she abandoned you. She may not have “dated” but she definitely banged other guys.
Can you really marry someone like that? Some who will abandon you at the drop of a hat? Run OP 2 run fast and run far.
Major red flags from OP in the first story.
Last story op shouldn't get back with his ex, it says alot about you if you choose to believe friends who are intentionally distancing themselves from your so and making them feel out than your so who you spent nearly a year with.
Damn, last story. Hope it doesn't backfire
That first story that poor woman didn’t have much self esteem to not just leave him when that pic was put up after the “ex” didn’t take them down. He liked it and he didn’t know what it said? Come on now. We all have a responsibility to take care of ourselves.
My Ex Found Out The Truth Of Me Not Cheating: I would respond like she broke up with me with one line "That ship has sailed years ago".
"..., struck an iceberg and sank."
It's better to have just a couple of really good friends than a whole group who will cause drama.
Im sending this from the inside. School is never gonna end
Dang bro I get out of school at 12:55 on mondays
@@0txzay i have an hour and 30 left
Good Stories, Thank you.👍👍👍👍😊👌✌
I wouldn’t get back with the girl in the second story. If she is so easily swayed, she never really had his back in the first place. She’s weak minded. You want a weak person as your partner? She’s gonna go back to those friends eventually because they’re all she knows. She wasn’t even owed that meeting. OP WILL REGRET TAKING THIS WEAK SAUCE BACK.
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
Story 2: it sounds like OP already has the closure he’d seek from a reunion 🤷🏽♀️ and it was so much harder won for him.
Hopefully the ex-wife really didn't know.
The reason the word frenemy exists (was coined) is because there really are people like that. If you trust people, it is hard to believe that your friends are not your real friends but are actually sabotaging you. We are reluctant to believe that someone is a frenemy, a friend who is only a friend so they can use and hurt you.
Well I would not have given that group or Alice a second thought and just walked away.
Second story: First intuition is often right, at least for me, so I'd probably either meet with her and put a definitive end to things or don't meet up at all. I'm either interested from the get go or will never be and if I think about it and feel nothing, there probably is nothing.
At least this story had a happy ending for a change, doesn't happen too often with these stories.
Story 2. The second there is any kind of drama he will get dumped via a text of a call. I wouldn't go back and date anyone who did that to me prior. She thought very little of him and his character. At least a little of that will be lingering in there somewhere. This happened when she turned to her friends and repeated something he told her in confidence. They then took advantage and used it against them both. I have zero tolerance for being talked about behind my back by an SO. Those conversations are private. In my 28 yr relationship, we both don't do that. We never air our laundry outside.
Obviously the guy in the first story is cheating with his ex. Dump him he has no interest or respect for OP.
There's no point in meeting up with Alice. Too much time has gone past, things wouldn't be the same even if they try to get together. My response would be "You chose to believe lies about me and dump me. Things are over between us, I've moved on, get over it."
Yet another story about a woman who has a miserable, destructive "friend" group. Then, she expects to be forgiven for her actions because it's not her, it's her friends.
She chose her friends, didn't she?
Finally a story with a nice outcome! That must have been really hard on the woman to have trusted her friends like that and been so badly betrayed! But she moved on and the guy let go of any macho bs and was genuinely mature about it. 👌
Not any good if she is still friends with them all.
@@bellasmom2597 She isn't. Only friends she has weren't part of the original group.
2nd story: if they get together again make sure the gf go no contact with her old friends. Then set up each friend to meet individually to confront them one by one, especially Samantha. Also if they actually get married make sure to never invite her old friends, but also piss them off by spreading wedding photos all over their social media.
So Op. Is now a floor mat! How refreshing!
Story 2: As the saying goes "With friends like that, who needs enemies?"... what a toxic group of horrible people. Dropping them all like a bad habit was the best thing she could have done.
Story 1: how pathetic. Never beg your SO for attention. If he valued her, he’d make time. She’s the Other Woman.
Second story; No. Never not ever.
You end our relationship because you don't believe me, it's over forever. Do not even think of calling me.
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
The 2nd story sounds like that phrase "single women keep women single"
Definitely wouldn't have gotten back with the girl that left me. It just goes to show that she would take someone else's word and wouldn't even give me a chance to explain. I'd always expect her not to believe what I say if some other issue would arise.
Can't wait for someone to say you cheated again wondering how fast she'll dump you this time😂
Enjoy your time together
Rude much? It was her (up to that point at least) lifelong childhood friends telling her that, not some random bimbos, of course she's going to believe them over someone she has only known for a year and has admitted to cheating years previously.
@@Heartrose7 Still, If she felt that way, then she shouldn't have gotten with him in the first place. Especially if she wasn' going to believe him if something like that came up. If she got with him, then it's safe to say she was overlooking whatever he did in the past. But the first sign of trouble, she didn't even give him a chance to properly explain himself. I know it's her life long friends, but she didn't even break up with him like an adult. As the guy above said, as soon as there's another "he's cheating on you" incident, no matter if it's true or not, she's most likely going to believe some else over him. Doesn't matter that he owned up to what he did and wants to be a better person, right? GTFOH I would have told her to kick rocks and go make up with those ass holes that tires to ruin her life.
@@EclipseIsUp You and the other commenter must seriously not have lifelong friends. So allow me to give you context as to why the odds are much lower than you think of that repeating. By letting you understand what she had, has lost and how that affects her and him.
For people like me and her who have had friends that we have grown up with and trusted for our entire lives, we don't view them as just friends, they're genuinely family to us, so while we may say "lifelong friends" to prevent confusion when talking to strangers, in reality you're really dealing with a close knit and long lived family unit with ties thicker than blood. And that is why without a proof or a tangibly plausible reason to doubt what they're saying, other parties have very little to no chance of winning against them in a situation like that, regardless of what they try to say in defense. You will need CCTV/video proof and-or the bloodless family admitting to the wrongdoing to convince people like me otherwise, because it is genuinely a family vs an outsider. That was why he initially lost so easily without even another word.
How it affects the two of them now is that: she now has no one else other than him (if he accepts her that is) that she can or is willing to trust anymore. Her lifelong friends, her bloodless family, outright betrayed her. For years, to her face and behind her back. Her ability to trust others after a betrayal that significant are now rather crippled, and it's now in her mind that: *if my own family would lie to me about him, then others are almost guaranteed to be lying to me about him*. Now the position is reversed, now, in order for her to believe anything negative about him, the accuser will need a CCTV/video recording and-or admission of guilt from him.
I think that's the best way I can explain it. And no, no part of this is overstated or said in jest, what their betrayal did to that woman was second only to certain domestic atrocities.
@@EclipseIsUp Again, the problem here is not that she believed her friends over his versions, that's understandable. The guy had antecedents and it was a good plan on her shitty friends part. What she really did wrong was the way she shut him off. She broke by phone, never giving him the opportunity to explain face to face, that's cowardice and says a lot about her (in a bad way) and her values. She wasn't a teenager, that was an adult woman. She mistreated him without real evidence , because you might believe your friends more than your boyfriend, but for revenge or harsh reactions you need real evidence. You lost the trust on him for what your friends said, that's OK, finish things, but she mistreated him on a "his words against her words" case scenario, never giving him the chance to directly confront her. That's something stupid, and this guy is a SIMP with low self esteem who believes he could not get anything better. Poor guy!
That ad is hilarious.
These stories make me so mad, they are so stupid
Story 2: Glad that these two are communicating with each other better than before. Here's hoping they go strong from here
I think that the girl whose friends set up a fake cheating scenario shouldn’t get even a moment of your time, drop her like a hot potato save yourself from future drop from her when something else happens
@Gi Gi Yeah but, she didn't use her head until the truth came out.
I would be a little sus when my friend immediately called me and told me she was kissed by my SO.
Normally I would agree to dumping her and leaving her in the dust, but given the circumstances and both her history with her friends and OP's past, I wouldn't blame her for her actions. As long as OP can work through all of this and he's mentally able, i'd say they should get Back together and spite the group for what they did.
Revenge on the people who did what they did to sabotage two people's happiness and one of them being a friend, showing you're back together and better off without them seems like the best ending for them.
Even better if they can sabotage all of them as payback as a couple.
@Gi Gi she didn't even let him talk to tell his side of the story. That's what bothers me about the whole thing regardless of the circumstances. What if this situation happened again. Is she going to talk to him about it 1st or just remember that he cheated once a few relationships ago.
@Gi Gi but if she cared about him, let him talk
At least face to face.
It's crazy how often shit like the last story happens.
Second story: There are some things that your new SO just doesn't need (deserve) to know. So much could have been avoided if you had just kept your mouth shut. The fact that it happened once, two years before meeting your current makes it irrelevant or unnecessary info.
Better to say something before it comes out.
@@kitsumekat: If he's a repeat offender, and it's known the SO will find out one way or the other. I get the impression that this was a one time thing and he regrets it. One moment of poor judgement should not cloud the future. All he's doing is instilling doubt before he's had a chance to show his true self.
Or maybe she doesn't blab about personal stuff to her friends.
@@Dustin81: ???
@@whistlerwind7422 They didn't start treating him badly till he told her about the past cheating. Then they get it in their minds to frame him with that.
Normally I'd say don't give her a chance, she refused to believe you. That being said... this was a conspiracy, with many people intentionally pushing for the break up.
I'd say go out and try.
2nd story: who needs enemies/crab mentality enemies with friends like those
I've been in the 2nd OP'S shoes 😔 i wouldn't have gone to see her, but i'm glad everything worked out 😊
Until someone else days something about him and she believes them and dumps him again.
Yeah it never ends well, Either she over compensates & gets real clingy or doesn't call him on shady behavior and he loses respect for her or she starts feeling inadequate & like she doesn't deserve him & ends up cheating on him to prove herself right. Have had both happen to me.
she didn’t give him a chance and took someone else’s word over his with no hesitation. OP should be very cautious because she’s not someone who will have his back.
Story 2: Caution is important! As much I usually say people shouldn't get back together, OP and Alice acknowledge this, so I can't be mad.
1ST OP, you are being aged. He has 2 lives, 2 homes, 2 girlfriends. I lived through this myself, so I know all the excuses. Dump him
Cheating, not Cheating: Geez, is it possible to sue an entire group for slander.
His lack of communcation shuld tell you all you need to know