Today’s Content: 00:00 My Wife Cheated On Me And Made... - Original Post 08:30 My Wife Cheated On Me And Made... - UPDATE 11:19 My Girlfriend Cheated On Me With My Brother - Original Post 16:36 My Girlfriend Cheated On Me With My Brother - UPDATE Enjoy!!
There are actually morons that think only married or engage counts for monogamy. Being bf and gf does not.count. they also think bachelor or bachorlette party is guilt free cheating time.
No, that woman doesn't deserve to be as happy as OP and the friend's brother should be held accountable. This woman would have still been cheating on him had he not found out, victim blamed him and gaslit him, and isn't remorseful at all whatsoever.
If there'd been a light in the dark alley behind the bar at closing time ,when he first met her,drunk, he would never have dragged her home in the first place ! Good riddance !
Agreed. It kinda bugs me even tho I don't even know them. Can't rap my head around how relaxed he is keeping this "friend" in his life and that ex in good regards...
@@nela3986 the friend didn't actually do anything wrong. It was the friend's brother, as far as we know the friend does not even know that his brother was the affair partner.
Last story, where the cheater demanded to see the ring. Honey, when you cheated, you lost any and all rights and privileges that that ring would have given you. As OP said, congratulations - you literally F'd your way out of a marriage.
She went from almost engaged to dumped off like trash to jail in 2 weeks. That's epic and awesome. Karma gives no f@#ks! Hope she has fun with those criminal charges.
Lol, I was thinking the same. He discovers she's cheating and is ashamed of the things he said to her. Honestly, there is nothing I would be ashamed of saying at that point. And when I heard that I was certain he was going to be one of those guys groveling at the cheating spouses feet begging her to pick him over her affair partner. I was quite surprised when it ended in divorce and he moved on.
Dude these guys have been cucked simped through their teachers in school and college and the society brainwashes them...and the last part she deserves happiness is stupid and just plain pathetic on his part
But sociopaths don't go around saying they are sociopaths.....they will try to do everything to convince u that they are perfectly normal....what he said should have been a cold and manipulating and calculating person
@@nazmulhaque487 Do u study psichology or something in that area? Do you understand the term high-functioning? Saying that all people diagnosed with a mental illness, like sociopathy are like that is super dangerous, it's just a stereotype and that's why people hate saying their mental health problems or going to a doctor. Besides, OP has the anonimity of the internet, is not like people know who he truly is.
@@nazmulhaque487 Yeah that line was such a “don’t mess with me I’m like The Joker, I can be your angle or your devil, I have a katana collection cringe moment. I’d be 99% positive he a) isn’t one at all and b) self diagnosed himself as one for badass points on the Internet. Shame, as the story didn’t need it, it was already entertaining enough for me not to care if it was true or made up. Ok, the “then she attacked the cop” part stretches credulity.
@@aljones6012 Agreed. That one line practically undercuts the whole story. Because there is too many "I feels" and way too gushy for someone that has a mental condition that prevents them from having feelings and forming emotional bonds.
She said she not sexually attracted to you anymore. Plus she said the bestfriend brother is attractive. This guy ignored 2 major red flags. The relationship is over. There's no reconciliation at this point.
@@thecoolgrandma7208yeah, if the person who claims to love you suddenly gives you a list of things you have to do, to MAKE them attracted to you again, then it's already over and they are likely cheating. The "fix yourself" list is BS and a shitty way for the selfish person to justify their cheating. So gross. 🤮
On the last story and update, it seems the brother had little regard for your girlfriend other than an easy lay. He didn’t stay for her or defend her/his behaviour , declared he’d fallen in love etc., in cases like this of which there are many, all you can do is be thankful everything came to light before you got married.
I could never stay with somebody who cheated whether it was physically or emotionally because once I lose trust in somebody it’s really hard to get it back.
At the point they realise they cannot talk themselves out of it, its all about saving face and creating a narrative where they are innocent/the victim this is then the basis of "their truth" carried forward to the next relationship and used to garner sympathy from others.
Both. Being branded a cheater can have lasting consequences going forward into the future. Esp, if the ex / betrayed person in question is feeling vindictive. So cheaters try to fix their reputation by acting like a victim if they can. Cheaters have to especially try to salvage what they can if they burned their relationship, or their marriage, for an affair. If they don't, well, all that effort would have been completely pointless and 100 percent destructive sabotage. They'd be admitting they gambled and lost out.
1st ex does not deserve a happy life. At all. Deserves to be alone and miserable forever. And of course the 2nd ex blames OP. As if he WANTED her to cheat. I'd show her the ring then pocket it saying I'm selling it now because its used goods like you.
Think of it her now partner got with the married wife of one of his brother buddies. What makes you think he won't get an AP who's also a married woman?
In story 2, I don't get why the ex stated that If she had know OP was planning on asking her to marry him, she wouldn't have cheated. I don't get how the lack of a ring would make her want to cheat, least for all with the brother of her boyfriend. Is it a magic ring that grants anyone who wears it the decency to not cheat on their partner? And without it, she could just not help herself? BS Also, the audacity and entitlement of the ex to demand to see the ring after cheating.
First story, she cheated there is no coming back from that. You will never love her or trust her again. I dealt with a cheating wife for years. It's difficult to divorce her, but you need to do it
Divorce isn't the easy answer... It's probably the hardest answer to actually do. It will cost you a fortune. And it will hurt. But it's the only correct answer. She clearly doesn't love or respect you and even if you attempt to make it better it'll never work
First story: (commenting as the story unfolds) Chaprer1 - Doesn't know what to do? Needs advice? Divorce seems like an easy answer? Has OP ever heard of "Occam's Razor"? My god! She handed you your answer on a silver platter.
People who validate themselves by sleeping around need to learn self-respect. I can’t imagine using people in order to find confidence and feel better about myself.
1) OP is not accountable for his wife's cheating. He followed her requests in the bedroom and did not pressure her into doing something she did not want to do. If she had started to want more, she should have told him do that he could accommodate as he had been doing. When she asked for more he did more but she had already been out there bussing it open for someone else. 2) OP had no control over his girlfriend's lady bits so he is not responsible for what she decided to do with them. If the relationship is working out like you want, get out of it instead of bumping uglies with someone else.
The part where she goes “ i wouldnt have cheated had i known you were going to propose”, yeah, thats complete bullshit. It shouldnt matter either way if a proposal was on the way, cheating is your own responsibility
I find kinda hypocritical that Lost Genre, said in his first comment "that if the guy hadn't tried to be better in the intimacy department the first woman would be justified in cheating" and in the second he says about blame shifting( when someone just blames other like they are not at fault at all. Like instead of cheating and then messy divorce/break up, why not only divorce/break up?
1st story, OP, your wife is a grown adult. If she felt neglected or undesired, then she needed to talk with you about it. Sometimes, couples relationship will feel flat and boring. But that's no excuse for what your wife did by cheating on you. Also, I would see of you could sue your bestfriends brother for interfering in your marriage. It depends where you are. OP NTA.
Dude…seriously, Nobody MAKES someone else cheat. That’s strictly on the person that cheats. If you are that unhappy in the relationship, LEAVE, don’t cheat. That’s an awful thing to do to someone,.
There is no reason for cheating, none. Due to medical reasons our bedroom was dead. I did not once, not once think about cheating on him. Unfortunately he passed and have still not have had sex. And guess what? I'm still alive, go figure.
His cheating wife told him do what you have to do and this fool didn't get the message. She basically told you, she doesn't give a damn about your decision. She's not even trying to apologize the way a remorseful spouse would do if she meant to apologize. To me, it would be the end of it.
Wait did LG just say op could be partially responsible for her cheating if he didnt try to fix the dead bedroom? No lg if her issue is a dead bedroom, you discuss it, not go outside the marriage. Divorce or break up. There is never a valid excuse for cheating. Not one
OP from the second story is a hero. I would be so glad if I were to be friends with someone like him. Somoene tried to mess with you? Well, you have the best counselor when it comes to vengance. Are you bored? He will have lots of epic stories. Hope he can found someone that can make him happy 💫
Ok first off the sex problems OP had been having with his wife supposedly before the cheating shouldn't be exclusively put on him. It take two people to make or break the relationship so he shouldn't be the only one to take the blame. If his wife was truly unhappy with the way things were going in the bedroom then she could have said / done something so the idea that OP might be partially to blame for his spouse's cheating is complete and utter BS. She cheated because she wanted to not because she had no other option. Let's address that the way it needs to be addressed. We all have choices and instead of making the right one she chose infidelity. No one forced this woman to cheat. She also could have chosen to leave the marriage and get a divorce before finding a lover. That too would have been a much more mature and responsible choice but she didn't.
I notice a common theme in a lot of these cheating stories that goes something like this: "We were high school sweethearts. Dated all through HS and college and then got married." There's something to be said for just being a kid in HS and college and dating several people casually. I knew a few serious couples in HS and college and just remember thinking how much it would suck to be in that situation. It just looked like an unhealthy situation, like they were both on a leash.
well think bout yourself at 17-18 then think of yourself at 27-30. myself and alot of people i know changed alot between those ages. my 28yo self wouldnt have even hung out with my 18yo self. so when u get married that young after a decade you realize that u cant stand your SO. so lonely and bored with life they sneak around fukn other people so they can feel that excitement of risk and being found out. thats baby boomer's 2.0.
OP's wife was burning the relationship to the ground. Getting caught and then saying "do what you want to do" is a dead giveaway for that. My ex did the same thing - had an affair with someone I couldn't stand and then decided she could do whatever she wanted. No idea why women do that when it would have been much more humane just to tell their partner to f*ck off.
No one is responsible for their partner cheating on them. It's sad when people with no respect are able to make someone with respect question their worth. Haha "high functioning sociopath" goes hand in hand with the Dunning-Kruger effect.
im sorry but there is no arguement that states you deserve to be cheated on, just as what is is and what isnt isnt, no one deserves it separate or divorce but dont ever fool yourself into thinking cheating is ok, hurt them now and spare them 10x the amount later just dont do it.
Exercise after something awful happens is very important. It's a great way to bring out all the energy and the pain without lowering yourself and assaulting the people who hurt you.
People need to stop that your ashamed at being angry and hurt that your wife betrayed you and blamed you for it this right here is the problem. As a guy your expected to let certain things slide most no longer respect what that means anymore but yes setting certain things aside is just what we do but there's turning the other cheek, and then there's I felt ashamed about confronting the guilty backstabbing party who planned on leaving me with nothing but psychological issues. Whatever "problem" she perceived in you she had plenty of opportunity to tell you but I have no doubt your best friends brother knows ALL ABOUT IT. Not your fault she couldn't be trusted. And just caught the back end and your NOT TELLING THE FRIEND says who you are and when he finally learns this you WILL damage a friendship because he supported you in the divorce of your wife who cheated on you with HIS BROTHER no it wasn't his wife but he will not trust you or him the same way, time is your enemy here.
That “congratulations are in order” one just screams fake: 1) It’s a variant on the old “groom tapes envelopes with pics of new bride cheating with best man to the underside of chairs at reception” story that has been around in many forms for many years. 2) “I’m a high functioning sociopath” is such a lame attempt at “I’m a total badass”. 3) to end with “she went crazy but I was super cool and calm and called the cops and then she punched a cop and then she totally got arrested” is just... come on. But of course his posts are like chum in the water in that forum, so he got tons of awards and karma and the few people questioning his story get downvoted to heck.
Why would you not tell your friend what his brother did? I would want to know that as if his brother would do something like that to you then he will definitely do it to his own brother. Just because you are not blood related does not mean the bond is not strong in both directions. Or dude, maybe your best friend knew about it? You have to test a friendship in these matters, sometimes.
Since, in the first part, OP said "we" (probably meaning him and his then wife) hadn't seen the brother in 8 months since a wedding. That sounds as if the brother lived some ways away from OP (also indicated by only one hook up, but lots of sexting). The friend may not really know much about what his brother did or would do. I didn't know my brother had a girlfriend (now his wife of 25 years) until, when I was talking about my engagement (all my family knew about that relationship), he says he's been talking marriage himself. Stuff happens.
@@nancyjay790 That's not really my question but I understand what you mean? My question was why OP does not tell his best friend what HIS brother did with OP's wife? Keeping it a secret after what happened does not make sense to me.
For the first story, it's very obvious that the OP is a very agreeable person and since, according to him, he never was really challenged like that, he can never really make the right choice in these kinds of scenarios UNTIL he can actually get a therapist (cause you CAN treat extreme agreeableness through some exercises) OR starts feeling REALLY resentful to the point of actually facing the darker side of himself (or his jungian shadow if you prefer). He also doesn't understand that people who cheat and homewreckers, whether they did it once or several times, don't just change in a heartbeat since they don't have the PRINCIPLES to actually guide them into doing something good in the kinds of situations... that means that they'll do it again and they'll continue hurting other people if they don't bear BIG consequences. Only then will they actually start to look themselves in the mirror with disgust and shame and feel empathy towards the people they hurt (or develop some cognitive empathy which is FAR more difficult and challenging but A LOT more correlated with acting up and setting up moral/ethical principles and acting them up).
The OP in story one suddenly decided to have fun and initiate with random women right after he divorced his wife but didn’t in his ten years of marriage with her? At least he admits his fault in the failure of their marriage because wow. Of course she shouldn’t have cheated, she should’ve just divorced him. No attention, no intimacy, no concern for her then all the sudden she cheats they divorce and he’s suddenly a fun guy paying attention to all these women and effing them. 🤷🏼♀️ Hopefully he understands that aspect of the divorce.
Cheaters acting like it's the 1700s when divorce didn't exist and cheating was somewhat tolerated due to it, and not the 2000s, where divorce is an option. There's no longer any somewhat understandable excuse to cheat. You aren't legally stuck anymore, so break up or divorce if you no longer love your SO.
The second story was so great, I mean cheating is always terrible but the fallout where the person cheated on comes out on top like that makes me feel like the world has a way of correcting itself. She lost everything, the respect of her friends and family, her side piece then of course lets not forget the meal ticket. The best part is that OP did nothing malicious or wrong, simply told the truth and watched the world fall apart around her. The blame shifting is cheater 101, and the audacity of asking to see the ring and trying to rationalize that if she knew about the proposal she wouldn't have cheated. And lets not forget the brother, he doesn't deserve anything outside a emasculating open palmed slap across the face out the door of the families life. The coward could even face the repercussions of his part in the cheating, it is way worse when it is family. That loser will never get the support from family ever again and most likely begin to rationalize he is being treated unfairly. The only way I would ever consider not disowning him after I beat him would be a chest tattoo on his dime with the words "I AM A WORTHLESS COWARD" . Then tell him to get out of my sight, that way he can go to family gathering looking like a zoo animal or a man infected by the plague
trust is the most important thing in a marriage and when that's broken it's a real hard thing to earn back and if it is then you have to forgive AND forget that's the only way the marriage will survive
Story one: this OP is so passive. "Oh there's a problem? I guess we'll deal with it in a month or two. Oh, you have no desire for me at all? I totally get that."
About cheaters resorting to blame shifting - not only does it work, it's probably the tactic with the highest success rate sadly... 1. If you've been cheated on your confidence is probably knocked. Not only are you more likely to accept blame, but it can be easier to accept you fucked up rather than the one person you loved and trusted betrayed you 2. Gaslighting is a way to save face in front of friends and family, and if the cheater convinces them, they gain more allies putting pressure on you and you feel more isolated, closing off other options that don't involve forgiving them 3. The cheater probably feels like a bad person. Blaming you makes them feel better about themselves and justifies their actions. It's a toxic behaviour but it is the most successful one, if you're on the receiving end you need to recognise what Gaslighting is and break contact with any mutual friends who side with a cheater over the victim.
Yeah I kinda thought that too when op said the brother was kicked out and the gf was disowned...sadly parents and families for some reason always tend to side with the cheaters and try defending their actions especially the moms.
It still blows my mind that people can let their wife treat them like shot, cheat on them, and then want to stay with her… Have some pride, have some self-respect…
@@moufdoudi1913 i should have looked at the picture but it makes no difference in this case, i did not make any assumption about your gender and my previous comment still stands. hope your next relationship goes fine.
These stories are each an example of vulnerable people being talked into a sexual encounter by a scumbag you can tell with how the tried to blame the ones they cheated it's painful how easy this trick is you just have to be in their ear
The guy in the first story, is already preparing to get back on the plantation, yet he thinks he won. The blue pill is strong with this guy. Maybe after his second divorce he will wake up
Here's some great advice.. never lose the love and respect you have for yourself to love anyone else.. never lose sight of your value to make someone else feel better about their own ego.. love yourself and the answers will come easily
First post. Life expectancy is much longer than it was a few generations ago. Relationships can last a lot longer. So it is difficult for people who get married very young and without much experience in relationships. It is probably not the best idea to get married right out of high school.
At the end of the day, thinking that there is more than each day, relationships are a fantasy. Enjoy each day, grow yourself..be the best you can be. Know that tomorrow your world can be turned upside down. Then if your very lucky, you'll look back and know if you had a partner in crime for any length of time, you been blessed. All anyone can do, is be the best person they can be. We have zero control, nor should we on a s/o. Hope everyone of you, has the greatest in life.. it comes at you one day at a time.
Story 1.Get out. You can't trust her and you will always be wondering what she is up to. And a "business " trip away from you? Assume she is getting it in when and where she can. It's gonna hurt bad but please rip the bandaid off quickly. You will get over this and be wiser for the experience.
no, absolutely not, there is no argument that can be made, don't cheat, talk things out, if that doesn't work then leave or shut up and deal with it, cheating is unnecessary.
Ex gf is a fucking psychopath. “I wouldn’t have cheated if I knew you were going to do that!” So she was going to cheat anyway? The mental gymnastics she did to justify her disgusting behavior is laughable.
There’s a difference between cheating and having an affair. A one time mistake (depending on circumstances and situation) might be reconcilable. But an affair is a betrayal that deserves ending the relationship/marriage. Just my two cents.
just no, a "one time mistake" is not a mistake, it is a decision and this decision is done without any respect or any love for the partner. You speak like if people don´t know what it takes to get to the point of having sex. Having attraction, flirting, sexting, leave the partner for the night, finding a lie to hide the situation, actively get to the other person, kissing, undress each other, more kissing, having sex, more kissing afterwards and maybe some more wine....this is a very long process to have a thinking about what you are doing and saying this is a mistake just plays everything down. It is a big decision and shows everything you need to know what that person thinks about his/her own chosen partner. To betray someone like this is nothing lovers do, this is what enemies do.
Today’s Content:
00:00 My Wife Cheated On Me And Made... - Original Post
08:30 My Wife Cheated On Me And Made... - UPDATE
11:19 My Girlfriend Cheated On Me With My Brother - Original Post
16:36 My Girlfriend Cheated On Me With My Brother - UPDATE
Enjoy!!
The funniest thing is her saying "I wouldn't have done it if I knew you were proposing" Like wtf, it doesn't make sense.
Oh my gosh,I'da held off cheating for a day or two,to get that ring. (And would have pawned it after the break up!}
That is some strange logic indeed, to say the least.
There are actually morons that think only married or engage counts for monogamy. Being bf and gf does not.count. they also think bachelor or bachorlette party is guilt free cheating time.
Cheaters simply lack empathy and can't imagine how others will react.
@@zibix4562 thats just crazy, like wtf?
No, that woman doesn't deserve to be as happy as OP and the friend's brother should be held accountable. This woman would have still been cheating on him had he not found out, victim blamed him and gaslit him, and isn't remorseful at all whatsoever.
If there'd been a light in the dark alley behind the bar at closing time ,when he first met her,drunk, he would never have dragged her home in the first place ! Good riddance !
Agreed. It kinda bugs me even tho I don't even know them. Can't rap my head around how relaxed he is keeping this "friend" in his life and that ex in good regards...
@@nela3986 the friend didn't actually do anything wrong. It was the friend's brother, as far as we know the friend does not even know that his brother was the affair partner.
She’s a 304 lol do expect anything less from her honestly??
Beatings all the way around
Last story, where the cheater demanded to see the ring.
Honey, when you cheated, you lost any and all rights and privileges that that ring would have given you. As OP said, congratulations - you literally F'd your way out of a marriage.
She went from almost engaged to dumped off like trash to jail in 2 weeks. That's epic and awesome. Karma gives no f@#ks! Hope she has fun with those criminal charges.
@@MrJpaynebb if first offence, maybe community service, job loss ?
was it the first time she cheated or much more ?
@@jyvben1520 it depends on the country OP live in, but in my country you would be shot in the leg
1st story....Dude ?? "I was ashamed of what I said to her" really, man you just saw proof of betrayal!! that was restraint, crazy.
Lol, I was thinking the same. He discovers she's cheating and is ashamed of the things he said to her. Honestly, there is nothing I would be ashamed of saying at that point. And when I heard that I was certain he was going to be one of those guys groveling at the cheating spouses feet begging her to pick him over her affair partner. I was quite surprised when it ended in divorce and he moved on.
Dude these guys have been cucked simped through their teachers in school and college and the society brainwashes them...and the last part she deserves happiness is stupid and just plain pathetic on his part
But he called her a floozy! Loljk she deserves much worse, the way that a man with total self respect would handle it
Not everyone likes to hurt others clearly that man has alot of empathy a trait rare in our world
I hope the OP manages to fully overcome his cuck programming one day.
OP of Story 2: I am a high-functioning sociopath
Me: oh, this is gonna be good
But sociopaths don't go around saying they are sociopaths.....they will try to do everything to convince u that they are perfectly normal....what he said should have been a cold and manipulating and calculating person
Yes I thought the same thing lol
@@nazmulhaque487 Do u study psichology or something in that area? Do you understand the term high-functioning? Saying that all people diagnosed with a mental illness, like sociopathy are like that is super dangerous, it's just a stereotype and that's why people hate saying their mental health problems or going to a doctor. Besides, OP has the anonimity of the internet, is not like people know who he truly is.
@@nazmulhaque487 Yeah that line was such a “don’t mess with me I’m like The Joker, I can be your angle or your devil, I have a katana collection cringe moment. I’d be 99% positive he a) isn’t one at all and b) self diagnosed himself as one for badass points on the Internet.
Shame, as the story didn’t need it, it was already entertaining enough for me not to care if it was true or made up. Ok, the “then she attacked the cop” part stretches credulity.
@@aljones6012 Agreed. That one line practically undercuts the whole story. Because there is too many "I feels" and way too gushy for someone that has a mental condition that prevents them from having feelings and forming emotional bonds.
She said she not sexually attracted to you anymore. Plus she said the bestfriend brother is attractive. This guy ignored 2 major red flags. The relationship is over. There's no reconciliation at this point.
Didn't she start cheating before they talked? If yes, all the things she told OP he needed to work on was just an excuse for her cheating.
@@thecoolgrandma7208yeah, if the person who claims to love you suddenly gives you a list of things you have to do, to MAKE them attracted to you again, then it's already over and they are likely cheating. The "fix yourself" list is BS and a shitty way for the selfish person to justify their cheating. So gross. 🤮
And she was not thinking of OP when they were rekindling their romance.
On the last story and update, it seems the brother had little regard for your girlfriend other than an easy lay. He didn’t stay for her or defend her/his behaviour
, declared he’d fallen in love etc., in cases like this of which there are many, all you can do is be thankful everything came to light before you got married.
OP explained it in the comments on the post I think it was something like the brother was afraid of him and just left
Brother ran like a chicken
X-girlfriend came back like a gold-digger
They deserve each other their priceless😂😂😂😂😂
Animal fact! Koala's have similar finger prints to us
So You are telling me that I could just use a Koala's fingers in a crime scene and escape???
@@nogoat yes, because if they aren't in the fingerprinting system it can't get traced back.
@@backstreetspearstm6870 Noice.
Male koalas also passively carry chlamydia!
@@thenecroticraptor8338 Oof. Chlamydia.
If a person is a natural cheater, they would definitely blame their partner.
I could never stay with somebody who cheated whether it was physically or emotionally because once I lose trust in somebody it’s really hard to get it back.
Somehow cheaters find excuses to justify cheating not sure who they try to justify their SO or themselves. 🤔
At the point they realise they cannot talk themselves out of it, its all about saving face and creating a narrative where they are innocent/the victim this is then the basis of "their truth" carried forward to the next relationship and used to garner sympathy from others.
Both. Being branded a cheater can have lasting consequences going forward into the future. Esp, if the ex / betrayed person in question is feeling vindictive. So cheaters try to fix their reputation by acting like a victim if they can. Cheaters have to especially try to salvage what they can if they burned their relationship, or their marriage, for an affair. If they don't, well, all that effort would have been completely pointless and 100 percent destructive sabotage. They'd be admitting they gambled and lost out.
During the Anniversary presentation the guy should have shown a picture of the ring, then a picture of GF and brother.
YASS 😂🙌💯👏
For the first story he should have told his best friend, the brother cannot be trusted and the friend should know that.
Wow you got her arrested by being happy and living your life the way you wanted.
Wow so It's true the best revenge in to live happiest life possible.
“I wouldnt have cheated if i knew you were going to propose”, yeah, thats a big load of bull
1st ex does not deserve a happy life. At all. Deserves to be alone and miserable forever.
And of course the 2nd ex blames OP. As if he WANTED her to cheat. I'd show her the ring then pocket it saying I'm selling it now because its used goods like you.
Think of it her now partner got with the married wife of one of his brother buddies. What makes you think he won't get an AP who's also a married woman?
In story 2, I don't get why the ex stated that If she had know OP was planning on asking her to marry him, she wouldn't have cheated. I don't get how the lack of a ring would make her want to cheat, least for all with the brother of her boyfriend. Is it a magic ring that grants anyone who wears it the decency to not cheat on their partner? And without it, she could just not help herself? BS
Also, the audacity and entitlement of the ex to demand to see the ring after cheating.
When she demanded to see the ring then OP should've just said to her: Nice try Gollum!
First story, she cheated there is no coming back from that. You will never love her or trust her again. I dealt with a cheating wife for years. It's difficult to divorce her, but you need to do it
Divorce isn't the easy answer... It's probably the hardest answer to actually do. It will cost you a fortune. And it will hurt. But it's the only correct answer. She clearly doesn't love or respect you and even if you attempt to make it better it'll never work
First story: (commenting as the story unfolds)
Chaprer1 - Doesn't know what to do? Needs advice? Divorce seems like an easy answer? Has OP ever heard of "Occam's Razor"? My god! She handed you your answer on a silver platter.
People who validate themselves by sleeping around need to learn self-respect. I can’t imagine using people in order to find confidence and feel better about myself.
if my high school sweetheart turned husband cheated on me i wouldn’t even be able to look at him let alone remain in the relationship 🤢
1) OP is not accountable for his wife's cheating. He followed her requests in the bedroom and did not pressure her into doing something she did not want to do. If she had started to want more, she should have told him do that he could accommodate as he had been doing. When she asked for more he did more but she had already been out there bussing it open for someone else.
2) OP had no control over his girlfriend's lady bits so he is not responsible for what she decided to do with them. If the relationship is working out like you want, get out of it instead of bumping uglies with someone else.
No there's NO EXCUSE FOR CHEATING she didn't bring it up until you were like WTF than you fix it. While she's out in the streets no dude.
Gotta love when the cheater blames the person they cheated on for them being a shitty person.
The part where she goes “ i wouldnt have cheated had i known you were going to propose”, yeah, thats complete bullshit. It shouldnt matter either way if a proposal was on the way, cheating is your own responsibility
I find kinda hypocritical that Lost Genre, said in his first comment "that if the guy hadn't tried to be better in the intimacy department the first woman would be justified in cheating" and in the second he says about blame shifting( when someone just blames other like they are not at fault at all. Like instead of cheating and then messy divorce/break up, why not only divorce/break up?
1st story, OP, your wife is a grown adult. If she felt neglected or undesired, then she needed to talk with you about it. Sometimes, couples relationship will feel flat and boring. But that's no excuse for what your wife did by cheating on you. Also, I would see of you could sue your bestfriends brother for interfering in your marriage. It depends where you are. OP NTA.
I love how all these Cheaters try to blame their Partners...Your the One that made me take off all my clothes and do this!! just insane rational
I know. The mental gymnastics that some cheaters(especially when they want to have their cake and eat it too) do is just unbelievable.
Dude…seriously, Nobody MAKES someone else cheat. That’s strictly on the person that cheats. If you are that unhappy in the relationship, LEAVE, don’t cheat. That’s an awful thing to do to someone,.
My thoughts exactly! I don't know why some people just don't talk about their relationship or end it if they're not happy. I just don't understand.
There is no reason for cheating, none. Due to medical reasons our bedroom was dead. I did not once, not once think about cheating on him. Unfortunately he passed and have still not have had sex. And guess what? I'm still alive, go figure.
You want to leave her because if u don't you will always wonder what she's doing and it will mess with u all the time
The fact that she cheated and gave him a to do list like everything was his fault was just manipulative and gross
“Love will always win”. Hurt is only temporary.
His cheating wife told him do what you have to do and this fool didn't get the message. She basically told you, she doesn't give a damn about your decision. She's not even trying to apologize the way a remorseful spouse would do if she meant to apologize. To me, it would be the end of it.
She went away on a work trip. TO CHEAT .
Wait did LG just say op could be partially responsible for her cheating if he didnt try to fix the dead bedroom? No lg if her issue is a dead bedroom, you discuss it, not go outside the marriage. Divorce or break up. There is never a valid excuse for cheating. Not one
OP from the second story is a hero. I would be so glad if I were to be friends with someone like him. Somoene tried to mess with you? Well, you have the best counselor when it comes to vengance. Are you bored? He will have lots of epic stories. Hope he can found someone that can make him happy 💫
"It was not a happy birthday text." I liked that bit.
Ok first off the sex problems OP had been having with his wife supposedly before the cheating shouldn't be exclusively put on him. It take two people to make or break the relationship so he shouldn't be the only one to take the blame. If his wife was truly unhappy with the way things were going in the bedroom then she could have said / done something so the idea that OP might be partially to blame for his spouse's cheating is complete and utter BS. She cheated because she wanted to not because she had no other option. Let's address that the way it needs to be addressed. We all have choices and instead of making the right one she chose infidelity. No one forced this woman to cheat. She also could have chosen to leave the marriage and get a divorce before finding a lover. That too would have been a much more mature and responsible choice but she didn't.
I notice a common theme in a lot of these cheating stories that goes something like this: "We were high school sweethearts. Dated all through HS and college and then got married." There's something to be said for just being a kid in HS and college and dating several people casually. I knew a few serious couples in HS and college and just remember thinking how much it would suck to be in that situation. It just looked like an unhealthy situation, like they were both on a leash.
But that's NOT what TV and movies show. That's not romantic.
Yep, my wife’s cousin married her high school sweetheart. They told us one time that statistically their kind of marriage fails like 70% of the time.
well think bout yourself at 17-18 then think of yourself at 27-30. myself and alot of people i know changed alot between those ages. my 28yo self wouldnt have even hung out with my 18yo self. so when u get married that young after a decade you realize that u cant stand your SO. so lonely and bored with life they sneak around fukn other people so they can feel that excitement of risk and being found out. thats baby boomer's 2.0.
OP's wife was burning the relationship to the ground. Getting caught and then saying "do what you want to do" is a dead giveaway for that. My ex did the same thing - had an affair with someone I couldn't stand and then decided she could do whatever she wanted. No idea why women do that when it would have been much more humane just to tell their partner to f*ck off.
I guess women do that for the same reasons men do it too
@@RaspberryHugsYou may have a point. I've never been in a relationship with a man to find out! ;-)
No one is responsible for their partner cheating on them. It's sad when people with no respect are able to make someone with respect question their worth.
Haha "high functioning sociopath" goes hand in hand with the Dunning-Kruger effect.
im sorry but there is no arguement that states you deserve to be cheated on, just as what is is and what isnt isnt, no one deserves it separate or divorce but dont ever fool yourself into thinking cheating is ok, hurt them now and spare them 10x the amount later just dont do it.
Anyone else have a moment when Lost Genre said "You took your lovelife in your hands..." 🤣🤣🤣😈🤣
Exercise after something awful happens is very important.
It's a great way to bring out all the energy and the pain without lowering yourself and assaulting the people who hurt you.
People need to stop that your ashamed at being angry and hurt that your wife betrayed you and blamed you for it this right here is the problem. As a guy your expected to let certain things slide most no longer respect what that means anymore but yes setting certain things aside is just what we do but there's turning the other cheek, and then there's I felt ashamed about confronting the guilty backstabbing party who planned on leaving me with nothing but psychological issues. Whatever "problem" she perceived in you she had plenty of opportunity to tell you but I have no doubt your best friends brother knows ALL ABOUT IT. Not your fault she couldn't be trusted. And just caught the back end and your NOT TELLING THE FRIEND says who you are and when he finally learns this you WILL damage a friendship because he supported you in the divorce of your wife who cheated on you with HIS BROTHER no it wasn't his wife but he will not trust you or him the same way, time is your enemy here.
That “congratulations are in order” one just screams fake:
1) It’s a variant on the old “groom tapes envelopes with pics of new bride cheating with best man to the underside of chairs at reception” story that has been around in many forms for many years.
2) “I’m a high functioning sociopath” is such a lame attempt at “I’m a total badass”.
3) to end with “she went crazy but I was super cool and calm and called the cops and then she punched a cop and then she totally got arrested” is just... come on.
But of course his posts are like chum in the water in that forum, so he got tons of awards and karma and the few people questioning his story get downvoted to heck.
What I learned from cheating exs "If you're looking for happiness outside of a mirror then you're on a fool's mission
All I can say thank goodness he found out about the cheating before proposal
Why would you not tell your friend what his brother did? I would want to know that as if his brother would do something like that to you then he will definitely do it to his own brother. Just because you are not blood related does not mean the bond is not strong in both directions. Or dude, maybe your best friend knew about it? You have to test a friendship in these matters, sometimes.
Since, in the first part, OP said "we" (probably meaning him and his then wife) hadn't seen the brother in 8 months since a wedding. That sounds as if the brother lived some ways away from OP (also indicated by only one hook up, but lots of sexting). The friend may not really know much about what his brother did or would do. I didn't know my brother had a girlfriend (now his wife of 25 years) until, when I was talking about my engagement (all my family knew about that relationship), he says he's been talking marriage himself. Stuff happens.
@@nancyjay790 That's not really my question but I understand what you mean? My question was why OP does not tell his best friend what HIS brother did with OP's wife? Keeping it a secret after what happened does not make sense to me.
2nd story - hahahahahahah, what a beautiful way to trash your gf and brother :D what a mad lad!
The first guy thinks his wife went on a work trip???😂😂😂
For the first story, it's very obvious that the OP is a very agreeable person and since, according to him, he never was really challenged like that, he can never really make the right choice in these kinds of scenarios UNTIL he can actually get a therapist (cause you CAN treat extreme agreeableness through some exercises) OR starts feeling REALLY resentful to the point of actually facing the darker side of himself (or his jungian shadow if you prefer). He also doesn't understand that people who cheat and homewreckers, whether they did it once or several times, don't just change in a heartbeat since they don't have the PRINCIPLES to actually guide them into doing something good in the kinds of situations... that means that they'll do it again and they'll continue hurting other people if they don't bear BIG consequences. Only then will they actually start to look themselves in the mirror with disgust and shame and feel empathy towards the people they hurt (or develop some cognitive empathy which is FAR more difficult and challenging but A LOT more correlated with acting up and setting up moral/ethical principles and acting them up).
The OP in story one suddenly decided to have fun and initiate with random women right after he divorced his wife but didn’t in his ten years of marriage with her?
At least he admits his fault in the failure of their marriage because wow.
Of course she shouldn’t have cheated, she should’ve just divorced him. No attention, no intimacy, no concern for her then all the sudden she cheats they divorce and he’s suddenly a fun guy paying attention to all these women and effing them. 🤷🏼♀️ Hopefully he understands that aspect of the divorce.
If he hasn’t learned he’ll do the same to his new infatuation lockdown buddy given time.
Story 2
Handled yourself and seems to have worked out in your favor ,you let the cat out of the bag and the two of them did the rest them selfs
Cheaters acting like it's the 1700s when divorce didn't exist and cheating was somewhat tolerated due to it, and not the 2000s, where divorce is an option. There's no longer any somewhat understandable excuse to cheat. You aren't legally stuck anymore, so break up or divorce if you no longer love your SO.
The second story was so great, I mean cheating is always terrible but the fallout where the person cheated on comes out on top like that makes me feel like the world has a way of correcting itself. She lost everything, the respect of her friends and family, her side piece then of course lets not forget the meal ticket. The best part is that OP did nothing malicious or wrong, simply told the truth and watched the world fall apart around her. The blame shifting is cheater 101, and the audacity of asking to see the ring and trying to rationalize that if she knew about the proposal she wouldn't have cheated. And lets not forget the brother, he doesn't deserve anything outside a emasculating open palmed slap across the face out the door of the families life. The coward could even face the repercussions of his part in the cheating, it is way worse when it is family. That loser will never get the support from family ever again and most likely begin to rationalize he is being treated unfairly.
The only way I would ever consider not disowning him after I beat him would be a chest tattoo on his dime with the words "I AM A WORTHLESS COWARD" . Then tell him to get out of my sight, that way he can go to family gathering looking like a zoo animal or a man infected by the plague
trust is the most important thing in a marriage and when that's broken it's a real hard thing to earn back and if it is then you have to forgive AND forget that's the only way the marriage will survive
Story one: this OP is so passive. "Oh there's a problem? I guess we'll deal with it in a month or two. Oh, you have no desire for me at all? I totally get that."
About cheaters resorting to blame shifting - not only does it work, it's probably the tactic with the highest success rate sadly...
1. If you've been cheated on your confidence is probably knocked. Not only are you more likely to accept blame, but it can be easier to accept you fucked up rather than the one person you loved and trusted betrayed you
2. Gaslighting is a way to save face in front of friends and family, and if the cheater convinces them, they gain more allies putting pressure on you and you feel more isolated, closing off other options that don't involve forgiving them
3. The cheater probably feels like a bad person. Blaming you makes them feel better about themselves and justifies their actions.
It's a toxic behaviour but it is the most successful one, if you're on the receiving end you need to recognise what Gaslighting is and break contact with any mutual friends who side with a cheater over the victim.
I read best friend in the title and almost got even more upset
Story 1
Congratulations
“I’m a high functioning sociopath”
-pack it up Sherlock Holmes
You need to get away from her and get counseling for you
I don't believe the second story - too many extreme improbabilities...
Yeah I kinda thought that too when op said the brother was kicked out and the gf was disowned...sadly parents and families for some reason always tend to side with the cheaters and try defending their actions especially the moms.
I hate when they say only she's ever had when she cheated
It still blows my mind that people can let their wife treat them like shot, cheat on them, and then want to stay with her… Have some pride, have some self-respect…
In my 3 relationships wich in all of them i have been cheating on i couldn't grasp why me?? Where i did go wrong?? It hit hard very hard
lack of communication on both sides ? 4th time lucky i hope, learn sign language
@@jyvben1520 no my probleme i give more than i get i trust more then i should so i get burn (i am she not he)
@@moufdoudi1913 i should have looked at the picture but it makes no difference in this case, i did not make any assumption about your gender and my previous comment still stands. hope your next relationship goes fine.
@@jyvben1520 no no, i have enough of that i don't have the energy. Thanks for your input
29 year old wife says she doesn't want to have sex you you ever again... Really?!
And that didn't instantly sound alarm bells! 😳😂
These stories are each an example of vulnerable people being talked into a sexual encounter by a scumbag you can tell with how the tried to blame the ones they cheated it's painful how easy this trick is you just have to be in their ear
Iam glad you won now he dont want her either
I love the word "high functioning sociopath".
Cheaters don't deserve happiness.
Very few cheaters don’t cheat again so I would not risk it.
If you unknowingly are the affair partner it it feels just as bad
The guy in the first story, is already preparing to get back on the plantation, yet he thinks he won. The blue pill is strong with this guy. Maybe after his second divorce he will wake up
Forgiveness does NOT mean you have to be a couple!
If they cheat, they're gone!!
I can't imagine giving up a sibling for a fling
Did Sherlock get cheated on? (High functioning Sociopath)
First story: anyone else thinking the wife was thinking of her AP when she was having fun times with OP?
Here's some great advice.. never lose the love and respect you have for yourself to love anyone else.. never lose sight of your value to make someone else feel better about their own ego.. love yourself and the answers will come easily
First post. Life expectancy is much longer than it was a few generations ago. Relationships can last a lot longer. So it is difficult for people who get married very young and without much experience in relationships. It is probably not the best idea to get married right out of high school.
Dunno about the brother one calling himself a 'high functioning sociopath'. Most sociopaths don't really get intense feelings of rage like that.
You guys will figure it out..can"t change the past..
when he started talkin bout the photo presentation i'm thinking..he's gonna include the fuck pix..ain't he..???
At the end of the day, thinking that there is more than each day, relationships are a fantasy.
Enjoy each day, grow yourself..be the best you can be. Know that tomorrow your world can be turned upside down.
Then if your very lucky, you'll look back and know if you had a partner in crime for any length of time, you been blessed.
All anyone can do, is be the best person they can be. We have zero control, nor should we on a s/o.
Hope everyone of you, has the greatest in life.. it comes at you one day at a time.
Story 1 NTA your wife checked out of the marriage a long time ago divorce her and get the evidence of her cheating
Story 1.Get out. You can't trust her and you will always be wondering what she is up to. And a "business " trip away from you? Assume she is getting it in when and where she can. It's gonna hurt bad but please rip the bandaid off quickly. You will get over this and be wiser for the experience.
no, absolutely not, there is no argument that can be made, don't cheat, talk things out, if that doesn't work then leave or shut up and deal with it, cheating is unnecessary.
Ex gf is a fucking psychopath. “I wouldn’t have cheated if I knew you were going to do that!” So she was going to cheat anyway? The mental gymnastics she did to justify her disgusting behavior is laughable.
The response to " I am not a very sexual person" is " Well I'm not a financially thrifty person"
The "ring" has so much power over trampy women.
There’s a difference between cheating and having an affair. A one time mistake (depending on circumstances and situation) might be reconcilable. But an affair is a betrayal that deserves ending the relationship/marriage.
Just my two cents.
just no, a "one time mistake" is not a mistake, it is a decision and this decision is done without any respect or any love for the partner. You speak like if people don´t know what it takes to get to the point of having sex. Having attraction, flirting, sexting, leave the partner for the night, finding a lie to hide the situation, actively get to the other person, kissing, undress each other, more kissing, having sex, more kissing afterwards and maybe some more wine....this is a very long process to have a thinking about what you are doing and saying this is a mistake just plays everything down. It is a big decision and shows everything you need to know what that person thinks about his/her own chosen partner. To betray someone like this is nothing lovers do, this is what enemies do.
@@insideAdirtyMind flirting and stuff is already an emotional affair. So that is cheating.
Return that ring.
There is no reason to cheat