The ArchCast Special! With Razorfist! A Tale Of BattleTech And 40k Of Female Custodes And Pride

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  • @themalcontent100
    @themalcontent100 6 місяців тому +269

    I am disappointed that Arch isn't more pissed that Sargon became a 40k cannon character before him.

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus 6 місяців тому +18

      Arch isnt the jelouse type.

    • @themalcontent100
      @themalcontent100 6 місяців тому +47

      @@malaficus knowing the writers they'll turn him into the most baddass creation that they have ever made and call it their win.
      Like a planetary governor with a complete alien heram.

    • @thorveim1174
      @thorveim1174 6 місяців тому +45

      It makes sense he didnt become one: remember he is voldemort, to mention him at all is forbidden in the GW circles; sargon doesnt have such a ban

    • @themalcontent100
      @themalcontent100 6 місяців тому +17

      @@thorveim1174 Haha I can see Razorfist as either an ork or vampire pirate in warhammer fantasy.
      I can also see them turning Vee into a real troll character. a Romanian troll.

    • @individual7046
      @individual7046 6 місяців тому +15

      GW has some sort of employee agreement where they can't mention arch , because it would cause a shit show in the community. Honeslty Sargon was probably the woke guys second option.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 6 місяців тому +213

    The alphabet people should have Slaanesh as their symbol. It’s a lot simpler and to the point.

    • @misterfevillord1588
      @misterfevillord1588 6 місяців тому +35

      Or nurgle, they corrupt everything. Or tzeench, they want to change everything. Or khorne, they always rage.

    • @themalcontent100
      @themalcontent100 6 місяців тому +13

      And shockingly dark eldar and slaanesh aren't getting more models.

    • @popedassalxvi5375
      @popedassalxvi5375 6 місяців тому +18

      they are slaves to darkness

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 6 місяців тому

      I feel for the good-faith Skittleheads... but it seems like they are the 1% of the 1%.

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 6 місяців тому +12

      No.
      They get their own faction: the Epstonians for their obsession with children

  • @Akimbo411
    @Akimbo411 6 місяців тому +99

    Guys, it happened. I actually saw a real life woman playing 40K at my LGS yesterday. Amazingly, she was actually fit, pretty, and friendly. Her Tyranids were beautiful.

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus 6 місяців тому +29

      What is it woman and tyranids.

    • @GeordieSwordsman
      @GeordieSwordsman 6 місяців тому +25

      @@malaficus Tyranids or Dark Eldar in my experience.

    •  6 місяців тому +20

      @@GeordieSwordsman The odd Ork player too.
      But mainly Bugs and BDSM Space Elves.

    • @deens51
      @deens51 6 місяців тому +7

      @@malaficus You just know

    • @abcdeabcde4877
      @abcdeabcde4877 6 місяців тому +3

      Did you score?

  • @nadrewod999
    @nadrewod999 6 місяців тому +195

    FUCK YEAH, it's Raz0rfist!
    ...fuck, yeah, it's Dev...
    "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" indeed. .

    • @fat_2627
      @fat_2627 6 місяців тому +22

      At this point I'm unsubbing; I want to hear to fans talk about the decline of the Warhammer and BattleTech communities.
      I'd even like to have on a fan who says the opposite point of view.
      Dev isn't a fan and brings nothing to the conversation.

    • @superdarklink
      @superdarklink 6 місяців тому +8

      Hes not going to get rid of dev until he stops making money off him.

    • @InquisitorJack
      @InquisitorJack 6 місяців тому +10

      @@superdarklink People need to stop super chatting on streams with Dev and give the money via alternative channels

    • @superdarklink
      @superdarklink 6 місяців тому +7

      @@InquisitorJack yeah pretty much. Dev isn't gonna go away till Arch's bottom line starts getting affected by it. And that would require people to stop being rage baited by devs bad takes

    • @InquisitorJack
      @InquisitorJack 6 місяців тому +9

      @@superdarklink The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference.
      Coming from a guy whose boycotted GW since 2020

  • @micros112
    @micros112 6 місяців тому +125

    I audibly groan every time Dev opens his mouth to play down leftist cultural vandalism.

    • @whisped8145
      @whisped8145 6 місяців тому +21

      Where between "useful idiot" and "controlled opposition" does he range?

    • @tenanaciouz
      @tenanaciouz 6 місяців тому

      Dev has always been a mealy mouth spineless fuck who just wants to be "in" and since he has some dumb insistence on being a "centrist" and the overturn window has slipped further and further to the left he slides along with it and is now just protecting the left openly since he refuses to speak the truth. He's no longer worth anybodies time

    • @micros112
      @micros112 6 місяців тому +33

      @whisped8145 great point. Even his own fans are beginning to lose patience with DEV's blatant Manchurian candidat-ism.
      It's time he is thrown up against the metaphorical wall and made to explain himself.

    • @superdarklink
      @superdarklink 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@whisped8145Yes

    • @JosephStalin-cv5gf
      @JosephStalin-cv5gf 6 місяців тому +3

      I don’t see a problem with that 🤷‍♂️

  • @wiilov
    @wiilov 6 місяців тому +70

    Man, what Harley Quinn did to Nora and Victor Fries is one of the reasons I expelled that poor-man's Venture Brothers from my memory.

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov 6 місяців тому +9

      @@KiraSlith Nerd Correction incoming; Prepare for the scent of Dorito dust.
      Fries. That's how their name is spelled. Freeze is the Villainous pun-name used when one or both of them get thematically appropriate Ice Powers.

    • @johannesstephanusroos4969
      @johannesstephanusroos4969 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@wiilov+1 his villain name is Mr. Freeze, but his civilian name is Viktor Fries

    • @baldeagle1171
      @baldeagle1171 6 місяців тому +2

      Mecha Shiva!

    • @dormarch186
      @dormarch186 6 місяців тому +2

      People keep tearing apart Nora in the “adaptations” with stuff like Victor being delusional or her otherwise shitting on him

  • @Toactwithoutthinking
    @Toactwithoutthinking 6 місяців тому +49

    Razor's gonna have some fun rants after this for sure

  • @requestcontainsinvalidargu6073
    @requestcontainsinvalidargu6073 6 місяців тому +65

    Oh shit finally Razorfist!!!!

  • @techpriest6962
    @techpriest6962 6 місяців тому +73

    *Everything isn't political, but anything can be made political.*

    • @bloodbarage
      @bloodbarage 6 місяців тому +1

      Everything is political in the political age.

    • @picklefathernurgle2719
      @picklefathernurgle2719 6 місяців тому +11

      Think UA-cam deleted this comment originally, for some reason: Re-posting.
      > Finally! Jesus Christ. Its not like someone's politics and view of the world, along with the culture they've lived in, doesn't bleed into their work, but rather that people are real good at looking past all that to the essence of the narrative.
      This is why many tales are considered timeless classics. Its because the stories, themes, characters and lessons that they teach transcend culture, transcend politics, and communicate ideas that can resonate with anyone who reads them, regardless of where you come from and what your views on the world are.
      Ceding ground on this topic only serves to validate people who thrive off confusing you by inherently poisoning the well and making it so that the words used to discuss something already set them up for victory. You don't fend off a bear by trying to beat it in melee; you grab a rifle, aim for the head and pray you don't miss.

    • @techpriest6962
      @techpriest6962 6 місяців тому +6

      @@picklefathernurgle2719 As a game writer myself, I see nothing wrong with that comment. It may be a bit flowery, but what matters most is that it is true.
      Though maybe that is why %#^} decide to {%*#} it.

    • @whisped8145
      @whisped8145 6 місяців тому +3

      You're the only other person in years figuring this out and posting it somewhere I could see.
      Maybe there is yet hope...
      Keep going!

  • @FrenchyMcToast
    @FrenchyMcToast 6 місяців тому +20

    I recently ordered a new box spring for my bed online. I did not realize that it would arrive unassembled in a flat pack. It's currently leaned up against the wall in the corner because every time I look at it I get this heavy dragging sensation in my mind, that feeling of "I just don't want to deal with this right now."
    I got that same sensation when I clicked on this and saw Dev.

  • @Nomadic_Gaming
    @Nomadic_Gaming 6 місяців тому +58

    i can tolerate dev for this episode because the anathema for him in raz0rfist is here
    i still say kick dev or convert him finally
    bring back and breed kibs also

    • @ganjagank4787
      @ganjagank4787 5 місяців тому +2

      Breed kibs so there is more kibs to go around

  • @thegentlemanfish7504
    @thegentlemanfish7504 6 місяців тому +57

    Speaking about the Trump float, i had to explain Warhammer lore about the God-Emperor, the song Carolus Rex, and how they related to Trump to a group of boomers. It was an experience.

    • @N0tAlpharius
      @N0tAlpharius 6 місяців тому +13

      Reminds me of when i tried to explain to my boss why he saw a bunch of young men watching barbie and what "Hes literally me" means

    • @InquisitorJack
      @InquisitorJack 6 місяців тому +7

      @@N0tAlpharius Because even Ryan Gosling is an incel in modernity

  • @erickelly1323
    @erickelly1323 6 місяців тому +8

    Arch I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks for having Razor on as a guest. Especially since you both are talking about a topic that really interests me (Big 40k and Mechwarrior lore fanboy). I'm happy that my superchat was able to make you guys crack a smile. Looking forward to your next live stream.

  • @MikeP5830
    @MikeP5830 6 місяців тому +207

    SFO needs to figure out what time it is and stop deluding his audience into thinking going back to 90s liberalism is possible

    • @InquisitorJack
      @InquisitorJack 6 місяців тому +1

      90s liberalism was the final stage of dissolving the vestiges of sanity so we could get where we are, only briefly delayed by Bush’s wars as a distraction. We got King Barry of Bathhouse immediately afterwards for a reason.
      Liberalism is societal AIDS

    • @007accessb4
      @007accessb4 6 місяців тому +6

      and returning to conservatism is?

    • @RoboChocobo
      @RoboChocobo 6 місяців тому +41

      @@007accessb4if neither is possible, will you simply lie on the ground and await the inevitable?

    • @007accessb4
      @007accessb4 6 місяців тому +3

      @@RoboChocobo nah, far from it.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 6 місяців тому +35

      He also needs to remember that, for at least 70-80% of the '90s, being a liberal meant being a "Friend of the Clintons"...

  • @wangusbeef86
    @wangusbeef86 6 місяців тому +114

    You know who would've been a better cohost here than Dev?
    KIBS! Who actually happens to be a fan of Battletech as well! Dropped the effin' ball here Arch

    • @TherealTenmanI
      @TherealTenmanI 6 місяців тому +64

      You know what would be better than getting Dev?
      An inanimate carbon rod.

    • @victoriencharnot555
      @victoriencharnot555 6 місяців тому +47

      ​@@TherealTenmanI Hey show some respect ! The Inanimate Carbon Rod saved Homer Simpson and the astronauts in Space !

    • @forkittens
      @forkittens 6 місяців тому +4

      why not all of them?

    • @forkittens
      @forkittens 6 місяців тому +25

      @@victoriencharnot555 far more useful that dev then. lol

    • @bloodbarage
      @bloodbarage 6 місяців тому +1

      SFO is right though.

  • @thorshammer8033
    @thorshammer8033 6 місяців тому +33

    Catalyst can eat crap. I have zero interest in their current story line, I have hundreds of older mech minis, the old source books, a decent amount of the new plastics, and finally , a mate who can 3D print me whatever I want in the future. Game , Set, Match.

  • @catman-hi5cn
    @catman-hi5cn 6 місяців тому +38

    One of the top voted posts on the 40k sub this week is “caiphus Cain says trans rights”, makes me so sad

    • @Fenris86
      @Fenris86 6 місяців тому +16

      Tbf. with that audience, maybe Cain would say it, and once he is out of the room frantically dial Inquisitor Vail to bring in the Ordo Hereticus...

    • @humanbeans4498
      @humanbeans4498 6 місяців тому +8

      Yeah it's reddit, leftist echochamber extraordinaire

    • @Elenrai
      @Elenrai 5 місяців тому

      @@Fenris86 Bro does know how to bamboozle followers of chaos!
      Also that paticular inquisitor has a smashing pair of tits so clearly Cain has good Patrician tastes, truly a man mocking the barbarians outside the gate!

    • @kieranadamson3224
      @kieranadamson3224 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Fenris86Cain straight up would do that. He's definitely far too hard on himself when it comes to describing his "true motivations" behind his legendary deeds. But at the same time Cain's a survivor and the social equivalent of an eel dunked in a barrel of lubricant.

  • @AShockToTheSystem
    @AShockToTheSystem 6 місяців тому +41

    I don't see anything wrong with Sargon becoming a Khornate Berserker. I remember Sargon's paladin and monk in Vee's campaign, and he played both pretty much as violent and ruthless berserkers. He really seems to enjoy playing those in fiction.
    If i didn't know this was made out of spite, i would think that someone did Sargon a favor. So if Arch will also become a WH40k character, i hope he'll also get something that is unintentionally fitting him. Something along the lines of a space skaven.

    • @pocketmarmots
      @pocketmarmots 6 місяців тому +4

      But the Space Skaven are the Tau

    • @Ozzystrayroo
      @Ozzystrayroo 6 місяців тому +5

      If someone wanted to piss off arch, they better make him A Tau of the Water Caste

    • @myriad9597
      @myriad9597 6 місяців тому

      Stryxies arch?

    • @TheBananamonger
      @TheBananamonger 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Ozzystrayroothey’ll make him an educated, conniving, and convincing tau water caste who averts a war or something and saves trillions in the process but they’ll frame it as being a betrayal of the tau by negotiating peace with the imperium in that sector

  • @whisped8145
    @whisped8145 6 місяців тому +31

    40:40 No Dev, this is not the only way you can defend against it.
    You can never defend against the manipulative malicious game of narcissists and psychopaths (which is what this entire ideology is and how it operates) by playing its manipulative game back at it. That's how you lose. You have to reject their game and play another, proper one. There is no reasoning with the irrational. Liars already know the truth.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 6 місяців тому +3

      You aren't reasoning with them you are giving them a taste of their own medicine... which is a saying for a reason. Any way you cut it if you want to win here you have to get down and roll in the slop.

  • @kenupton4084
    @kenupton4084 6 місяців тому +35

    Sometimes, when Arch talks about how he is Persona Non Grata at GW, I wonder if my artwork still hangs in the GW art department and if they have any idea that it was drawn by a right wing conservative that disapproves of most of their business decisions.

    • @Vihara2
      @Vihara2 6 місяців тому +4

      No chance, spite and pettiness defines these npcs, they 100% purged any art that doesnt fit their agenda. I'm amazed they haven't tried to make sanguinius gay yet.

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 6 місяців тому +189

    Nobody likes the new lore, because it's so obnoxiously politically charged it's hard to not notice it. When you have a troon colored mech with a troon flag on it, piloted by a they/them who's out to fight the patriarchy...when does the fiction start and the politics end? I hate SFO's insistence on "everything is political" precisely for this reason. It kills art, it's designed to kill free expression, and that's exactly what's been happening the last decade.
    How can you truly make beautiful or thought provoking art when you can only view everything you produce in a political lens?

    • @reclaimerbear6760
      @reclaimerbear6760 6 місяців тому +32

      It is more like, your views and beliefs create your politics. So, when you create art, it is an expression of your views and beliefs. Which is your politics. So, if the art is bad or terrible because of your views embodied in it, it is because your politics are bad. And you can't create good art with bad politics.

    • @walkingcontradiction223
      @walkingcontradiction223 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@reclaimerbear6760That's actually quite insightful.

    • @reclaimerbear6760
      @reclaimerbear6760 6 місяців тому +5

      @@walkingcontradiction223 ty, I try

    • @honorguard7616
      @honorguard7616 6 місяців тому +1

      SFO?

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@honorguard7616 Been trying to figure that out, too.

  • @Zhentarim
    @Zhentarim 6 місяців тому +14

    56:00 In Brazil they made "Tropa de Elite", Elite Squad, with the intention of criticizing the police, but ended up elevating BOPE, the real-life police depicted in the film, as national heroes due to the fact that at least justice was being done

  • @9365fall
    @9365fall 6 місяців тому +12

    FUCK YEAH, it's Raz0rfist!

  • @GrannyGoddy
    @GrannyGoddy 6 місяців тому +7

    43:20 - It's the distinction between 'Being political' and 'Having politics'.
    'Having politics' is things like... the constant feuding betwee the various factions of the Inquisition, or the that none bar the Emperor or Primarch can order an Astartes chapter around.
    It's there being an Imperial Senate until the Emperor dissolved it. It's the Federation and the Klingon Empire being at loggaheads until Praxis forced everyone's hand.
    'Being political' is casting Sargon as a Khorne Beserker, or having every male characyer be shite and every female character be an amazing girl boss.
    If we keep that distinction, then when someone says "It was always political!", you can answer "No, it had politics", and not have to justify how 'Empire bad, rebels good' isn't politics.

  • @oktoberbabyfee
    @oktoberbabyfee 6 місяців тому +23

    GW already turned woke about ten years ago.

  • @Alexander_Kale
    @Alexander_Kale 6 місяців тому +8

    I joked jears ago, when it was just "lgbt" and they added the "Q", that the alphabet crowd would just keep picking up new letters.
    Then they did. And eventually came the + and I laughed my ass off...
    But this is truly ridiculous.

  • @evolvedpotatoe866
    @evolvedpotatoe866 6 місяців тому +43

    I don't think arguing that everything is political is the correct way to beat them. Don't let them make the argument to begin with. Use their original tactics. They say it's all leftist, say no and call them racists and sexists. Call them evil.

    • @tristanrussell448
      @tristanrussell448 6 місяців тому +12

      Yea i was also wondering if excessive gatekeeping is the better path

    • @abcdeabcde4877
      @abcdeabcde4877 6 місяців тому

      You're trying to engage them on their terms and hold them to standards they define. You accept their antiracism and antisexism frame of reference and try to out-virtue the leftists in a virtue contest they invented and perfected. You're playing their game, they will beat you every single time.

    • @slurmsmckenziesboombox8580
      @slurmsmckenziesboombox8580 6 місяців тому +20

      ​@@tristanrussell448 That is not even a question. It is the only solution.

    • @tristanrussell448
      @tristanrussell448 6 місяців тому +4

      @@slurmsmckenziesboombox8580 u know thats fair

    • @picklefathernurgle2719
      @picklefathernurgle2719 6 місяців тому +9

      Yeah. He's real dumb on this one topic. I legit almost always agree with the Dev-man, since I can at the *very least* always see the logic behind his arguments, even if I would prefer different solutions. But that is definitely not the case here. All you do when you agree to look at something through their framework is allow them to set you up for failure.
      "Everything is political" serves two purposes:
      > One, it allows them to take something that is a-political, or at the very least attempts to be universalist in its themes and messages, and then taint it.
      > Two, it allows them to assert that the reason you would *ever* deny something being political is because you're trying to push your own politics.
      With a singular, three word sentence they poison the well and then attack by holding a bucket of death-touched water up to your mouth. You don't fight that buy opening up your trap to rebut them: you smack the bucket away, punch them in the face and then go American History X on them until they stop twitching.

  • @slurmsmckenziesboombox8580
    @slurmsmckenziesboombox8580 6 місяців тому +95

    As always, Dev has the wrong understanding but insists on being told he is right. There is an important distinction between everything being political and the cultural marxist trying to make everything political. Dev has accepted the premise and therefore given them the win by moving the argument to their terms. By deciding that you already lose, you gave them what they wanted. They correct path is to call them out and reject their attempt to politicize anything that doesn't need to be political. Gatekeep that f out of everything.

    • @Nomadic_Gaming
      @Nomadic_Gaming 6 місяців тому

      thats because dev is one of them and constantly try’s to subvert or corrupt or derail stuff to push things to his bent
      god i still wish louie had nuked him like he alluded to he was gunna
      the sheer mountain of shit on dev a year or so ago w his commie rants and his “age is a number” bs he now has tried to ignore and cover up and his fans will cover for is disgusting
      he is vaush levels of leftoid degenerate and belongs on breadtube w his former buddies armored skeptic and shoe vs being on archs show and ruining it repeatedly

    • @Ozzystrayroo
      @Ozzystrayroo 6 місяців тому +27

      Both arch and razor did adress this point in the discussion by mentioning It is okay to discuss politics in the given setting as it is relevant to the setting but it is malicious when someone tried to enforce real world politics into the setting.

    • @wiggawithattitude
      @wiggawithattitude 6 місяців тому +5

      The guys clueless.

    • @chrism.1421
      @chrism.1421 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, everyone on this video is missing the point. The essential point to make is that people make things and people maintain things, and if the people in charge insist on putting their politics in everything, then their politics will be in everything, and if you don't want that, it is absolutely essential that other people are in charge. No book or written constitution has the power to resist or combat anything - it's people that make the difference.
      If expressing a worldview is a political act, then everything is political. But 'politics' is essentially ideological battle, and not everything has to be a battle.

    • @HERITAGE12
      @HERITAGE12 6 місяців тому +16

      Sargon had a good take on this . When they throw the "everything is political" line at ya say " YES and we LIKE it this way so much it's called "normal" , keep you weirdo takes to yourself " .
      Too many don't push back to protect what they love

  • @Abyssal86
    @Abyssal86 6 місяців тому +21

    Dev leaves at 2:03:19

  • @Gunnberg85
    @Gunnberg85 6 місяців тому +7

    "Heresy is the question. Fire is the answer. Tee hee."
    "Heresy is the question. Fire is the answer. Tee hee."
    "Heresy is the question. Fire is the answer. Tee hee."
    "Heresy is the question. Fire is the answer. Tee hee."
    Can we not do this, please?

    • @heartsickruben
      @heartsickruben 6 місяців тому +1

      It's high brow humor. You wouldn't understand

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus 6 місяців тому +2

      @@heartsickruben No it is just anoying.

    • @heartsickruben
      @heartsickruben 6 місяців тому

      it was sarcastic

  • @weirdguy564
    @weirdguy564 6 місяців тому +10

    I play BattleTech since I was a kid decades ago. I now play it with my young son. I only really like the earliest setting of 3025, aka the 3rd Succession War. Even the Clans don't really interest me. Just give me mechs and a hex map. I don't need the bloat.

    • @thorveim1174
      @thorveim1174 6 місяців тому +2

      I still really like the clans myself, be it for only one reason: they manage both to still be human, while at the same time affecting the setting like an alien invasion would, with even their society being alien by our standards.
      That, and gameplay-wise... I heard they were bad before, but nowadays as a newbish player I really have a hard time winning with them against the sphere XD when a timberwolf with a clan pilot is almost the same cost as two annihilators...

    • @iller3
      @iller3 6 місяців тому

      FedCom civil war is pretty alright because it's essentially just a "5th succession war" vibe given off. It just doesn't really have anything to offer to people who either love or hate Kurita as they're spending all of it recovering from "Cat scratches"

  • @jasonwright6657
    @jasonwright6657 6 місяців тому +2

    Back in January I bought a collection of metal Grey Knights models. About 35 regular Grey Knights and 15 Terminators. I've been in the process of stripping and painting them for three and a half months now, and these models are beautiful! I love them so much!

  • @BobMcBobJr
    @BobMcBobJr 6 місяців тому +2

    Need-to-Add lore for Sarkon of Aggad
    - A gay, black, female, inquisitor, by the name of Kime Braks (MIke Brooks), started a xenos integration program where "compatible" xenos where allowed residence in the imperium
    - Sarkon, that horrible racist, was infuriated when several of the invited Drukhari kidnapped a bunch of children and turned them into meat-lamps and meat-sofas, as is only their nature, and declares his intention to stop this.
    - Opposing an inquisitor gets him branded a heretic and traitor so this conflict immediately devolves into a civil war.
    - Sarkon steals some of a new line of female space marine armor and has it modified so it fits and works for him. Also, a pair of chain axes.
    - Sarkon eventually discovers that Kime Braks is actually in the thrall of one Jorj Soarus, a Tau Ethereal that has learned to influence the minds of humans as well as Tau.

  • @picklefathernurgle2719
    @picklefathernurgle2719 6 місяців тому +44

    I genuinely don't get what Dev is saying when he says "everything is political." Actually, scratch that. I understand what he's saying, but I vehemently disagree with the logic and intent behind the statement. What is political about writing a poem, story or song about not wanting to die? Or the suffering of starvation? What's political about the human condition and what it means to know hope and joy, along with despair and sorrow? Not everything is political because many things are universal. Not just to humanity, but to life in general.
    Parroting their phrases in order to beat them at their own game is not necessary when you can just tell them to shut up, that you understand what they're trying to do and that you not only disagree, but that you reject their framing of the issue. This is simple enough to do, Dev, without ceding ground to them on their inherently warped and hostile foundational view of reality. You're talking about beating them at their own game, whereas I and many others would agree that the only way to shut them down is to call them on their bullsh!t and call it a day.
    You can't defeat these people by levelling with them and trying to beat them at an argument. They will never cede a point, never admit they've lost or look stupid. Nothing you do or say when you engage with them in this way will stick or affect any real change. You're effectively trying to engage in melee with a rabid honey badger, and all you're gonna get for your trouble is a free transition as they wrangle themselves out of your grasp and go for your balls.

    • @SoverineSR
      @SoverineSR 6 місяців тому +13

      It's not too far from the truth - in that anything with a story is painted by culture and politics. But to mistake 'being painted by politics' as 'being political' is so room-temp IQ thinking they're brilliant it's not even funny. And to try to spin the political inspiration visible in games without a story, like Pacman, is just pure self-humiliation. He'd be right if he stopped at 'politics influence everything', but he doesn't understand that there is a distinction, and thinks it's just a nicer way of saying the same thing.

    • @UMTongo
      @UMTongo 6 місяців тому +2

      Everything that you write is apart of your experiences through your culture and culture is political

    • @9365fall
      @9365fall 6 місяців тому +1

      politics is when two people exist. Everything is political in that human beings are political animals. Every thing written has an intent, and audience, a motive. As soon as something exist and two goons argue about it enters that realm.
      When good folk say, " I don't want things to be political" what they mean is that they don't want an agenda to political agenda to be center piece. I don't want your obtuse special interest agenda to invade my fucking hobby and take center stage at the cost of destroying the things i enjoy.
      look at dune for instance, it's obviously political in the sense it has a clear message, it uses arab inspired fremen and spice as a stand in for oil, clearly is has a political motivated message but the characters aren't a stand in for putin or bush, it has a message but it doesn't put the chart before the horse and attack anyone who questions the validity of resting on the moral arc of the universe to carry the day. the characters and the setting are fully realized unto themselves and are just a hack jawed stand in for the author to pigeon hole thinly veiled and poorly telegraphed takes, there's an enjoyable story conveyed and the ideas are carried by it.
      Another instance, lets take star trek before it was dog trash. In the original series, it was political to have a blackwomen as the equal to a white man on the bridge, but the show was a vehicle to tell stories, and these stories were entertaining first and foremost while also carrying roddenberry message of a hopeful future.

    • @picklefathernurgle2719
      @picklefathernurgle2719 6 місяців тому +3

      @@SoverineSR The definition of "Politics" - the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
      Where exactly does this definition mention the Little Mermaid?

    • @picklefathernurgle2719
      @picklefathernurgle2719 6 місяців тому +5

      @@9365fall I disagree. What you're doing is taking politics and applying it to something it stands apart from because people inherently have political ideas and leanings. Not every aspect of human cognition is occupied by the societal apparatus of running a state.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith 6 місяців тому +36

    I love that 1/3rd of all comments are literally people being just as tired of Dev as I am. Please, stop inviting him to anything. He's so fake it's painful to watch.
    Edit: Or it WAS 1/3rd, until Arch started nuking and spam filtering threads every time anyone explains WHY Dev is fake.

    • @deadj4731
      @deadj4731 6 місяців тому +4

      Go away tourist. Arch has made it clear he is friends with Dev and will vouch for his authenticity. You ignoring that shows what a non fan of Arxh you are. Go away.

    • @spacejunk2186
      @spacejunk2186 6 місяців тому +4

      You guys sounds more and more like the cringe insane leftists you hate so much. Stop.

    • @legolinc4443
      @legolinc4443 6 місяців тому +9

      @@deadj4731Does that mean that 1/3rd of all the comments are all tourists? That is an awful lot of tourists, yeah Arch says Dev is authentic but look at the damage Dev is causing. Sargon doesn’t come around very often anymore, Kibs doesn’t come anymore, and Vee has indirectly stated that he doesn’t like coming in anymore because of Dev’s attitude.
      I don’t think we are tourists for stating Dev is bringing harm to Arch

    • @lanereynolds4567
      @lanereynolds4567 6 місяців тому +12

      @@deadj4731 simply because people are correctly calling out Dev and his infiltrator ways, doesn't mean that anyone's a tourist. Arch is great at lore, and he has funny ways of wording things. But pointing out subversives is not his strong suit. After all, look at all the people who's put knives in his back. Dev will do the same, unless arch kicks dev and cuts all ties.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 6 місяців тому

      @@deadj4731 Guy had a great time here on Archcast with Kirche only to hop to EFAP and talk shit. Dev is not authentic, he's a snake.

  • @Damienx247
    @Damienx247 6 місяців тому +7

    The reason Arch isn't canonized is because GW doesn't want to admit he exists.

  • @bluekashus2499
    @bluekashus2499 6 місяців тому +5

    I was doing this since the early 2000s, people would just roll their eyes or say "you don't know the intention of the director". I've been calling out liberal commie programming for awhile and even occult symbology.
    I crafted a theory years ago that modern entertainment has three layers, the first layer being the colorful candy coating of the entertainment value, 2nd layer being the geo-social and political messaging, and finally the occult subversive programming.

    • @johannesstephanusroos4969
      @johannesstephanusroos4969 6 місяців тому +3

      Some of it may not even be on purpose, but it still accomplishes the same purposes in the end...

    • @bluekashus2499
      @bluekashus2499 6 місяців тому +1

      @@johannesstephanusroos4969 I agree. I think sometimes people are influenced or inspired from outside sources.

  • @whisped8145
    @whisped8145 6 місяців тому +11

    28:50 Oh Dev, don't pretend. YOU don't know what it even is, because you make excuses for the whole shabang in the same breath.

  • @ahel4523
    @ahel4523 6 місяців тому +5

    Sargon gets immortalised in 40K. Arch lift your game your losing.
    47:03: The pastel pink and blue represent fans of the playground.

  • @thegeneralmitch
    @thegeneralmitch 6 місяців тому +5

    If Sargon is in 40k he needs an urbanmech style trashcan servitor follow him around.

  • @bentinbama1
    @bentinbama1 6 місяців тому +1

    Really enjoyed this coversation. Thanks arch razor and dev 😀

  • @forkittens
    @forkittens 6 місяців тому +14

    razor is such a gent... and so is dev.... if dev wasn't, razor would unleash... that razor was so quiet, speaks to the kind of man he is.

    • @Ozzystrayroo
      @Ozzystrayroo 6 місяців тому +1

      He is a very tactful guest indeed

  • @Jwnorton
    @Jwnorton 6 місяців тому

    Nice. Thanks for this - three good minds that work well together. More - please!

  • @PeterBaker-w3m
    @PeterBaker-w3m 6 місяців тому +1

    The brilliance of ideology is often saughtered on the alter of reality.. which explains the workers making the games being normal but the middle management being woke and clueless with the upper management being aloof not knowing what is going on until the bottom line happens. Of note I did not type the ( and clueless ) on the middle management it just showed up So if the A. I. Or a programer did domething to weighi in . Thank you for that good point

  • @retroman3252
    @retroman3252 6 місяців тому +29

    I feel sorry for Dev, imagine you got a new mental disorder where you believe the universe is made out of politics instead of atom. And your friends can't do nothing about it but watch.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 6 місяців тому

      Or sorry for arch where you went through a bit of Rosetta language learning and then pretend that you know japanese and then make an excuse that you can't speak well but understand everything.... that is some serious nonsense there.

  • @LordEriolTolkien
    @LordEriolTolkien 6 місяців тому +5

    What were the big smooth brains thinking by immortalizing Sargon in lore?

  • @oteris2924
    @oteris2924 6 місяців тому +7

    "Orcs are BLACK!"
    I blame Warcraft for this tomfoolery. Blizzard(not activision) not only had them be slaves but they also decided to have the males do the hammer dance and females twerk in WoW. THEEEEN they made the Mag'har, aka Brown Orcs in the Burning Crusade. Before all this Orcs were mostly Mongolian Viking raiders. They were just a generic savage raiding "race" of people that everyone from around the world has dealt with at some point in their culture's history. From Europe, down to Africa, over there in Asia, all the way to the Native American peoples, but now they are "coded" black and it brings up a whole lotta..."problematic" things. You know, with Orcs being literally non humans that loot and burn down cities of humans just because they can.
    Never the less, Garrosh did nothing wrong and is the hero the Warcraft universe needs.

    • @johannesstephanusroos4969
      @johannesstephanusroos4969 6 місяців тому +1

      Orks are Bri'ish football hooligans, and Warcraft Orcs are their own shamanic inspired race... soooo, more like Apache/Comanche

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 6 місяців тому +2

      Wow orcs were Native American/Mongolians.
      Orc black comparisons have always been BS

  • @Danielzabojca
    @Danielzabojca 6 місяців тому +3

    Wait so @arch has a Mercedes?!
    Lets quiz him!
    Question 1: Do you know what a turn signal is?

  • @zsedcftglkjh
    @zsedcftglkjh 4 місяці тому

    How did I miss this livestream? HOW?! Godspeed!

  • @JakeQRook
    @JakeQRook 6 місяців тому +1

    RazorFist, I’m an Arch fan and am just now listening to you for the first time, but I bet your trucker fanbase comes from the same reason I listen to Arch on the road… Informative, yet easy listening for long drives…

  • @rkzenrage
    @rkzenrage 6 місяців тому +2

    My wife plays Warhammer & is an excellent mini painter as well as an amazing D&D DM. She's never injected any b.s. into any of it. However, we're in our 50's.

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus 6 місяців тому +1

      Part of the woke multi generational plan.
      Indoctrinate the next generation.
      Your going to dead in 50 years.
      You don't matter to them.

  • @thekingofhistory4360
    @thekingofhistory4360 6 місяців тому +2

    1:28:30 the only two possible exception for the government providing drugs is in the case of if someone is detoxing at a recovery clinic because once you get to a certain point you can't just stop because it will kill you. You have to slowly come down from it. Also, if you get to a certain age and you don't manage to kick an addiction, you have to keep doing. I know a lot of old school hollywood actors had that with alcohol. So there are or should be two exceptions to no providing drugs policy.

    • @fwuffymilk8369
      @fwuffymilk8369 6 місяців тому

      I think only alcohol addiction would kill you if you did cold turkey

    • @thekingofhistory4360
      @thekingofhistory4360 2 місяці тому

      ​@fwuffymilk8369, no, some drugs can do that too.

  • @wombraider7796
    @wombraider7796 6 місяців тому +2

    It would be awesome if you guys had Kirche on with you all as she has the scoop on all the BRIDGE stuff going on for DEI

  • @10011110011
    @10011110011 6 місяців тому +26

    I know dev does not have a life thus always available, but could you atleast not invite him when topics are discussed that is outside of his "scope of expertise"?

  • @Alastorm8
    @Alastorm8 6 місяців тому +1

    Loved to see razor on here. Hope to see more.

  • @dominicbrady1539
    @dominicbrady1539 6 місяців тому +19

    Dev was itching for an opportunity to tell Razorfist that he is gay

  • @jameshunter3867
    @jameshunter3867 6 місяців тому +1

    ...Been hoping for a stream with Arch & Razorfist for a while now! 😎

  • @LunaProtege
    @LunaProtege 6 місяців тому +2

    This talk of the frost wife considering his love "suffocating" and turning her into a certain garden implement so to speak... Reminds me of something I stumbled across on the YT shorts, where The Punisher was given a chance to have his wife back, and they made his wife be on the verge of divorcing him before she died, and she decides "you've turned into a monster and not the man I once loved" once she sees what he became to bring her back and/or avenge her... And I can't help but think its turning into a pattern of the writers being spiteful of love and marriage, and I imagine there's more cases of this I just haven't noticed/remembered.

    • @Andri474
      @Andri474 6 місяців тому +1

      Must be from personal experience of their disastrous love life. We aren't the only people they hate.

    • @malaficus
      @malaficus 6 місяців тому +1

      Evil hates good.
      Before the woke i thought people where just different.
      After the woke i believe in the devil and there its playthings.

  • @giguyjoe
    @giguyjoe 6 місяців тому

    3:10:45 I mean to be fair it's been rebooted a number of times. It's just that Lauren Faust's generation 4 was the one that stuck the most. But yeah looking at how Gen 5 was handled both by the Barbie-esque animation studio AND IDW comics, I don't think Hasbro's above going back to Gen 4 and picking up where the show stopped to flesh out the world more.

  • @squishyhunter1744
    @squishyhunter1744 6 місяців тому +1

    Blaine Pardoe is now a semiregular guest in the Council on Future Conflict, and has book 5 of his Blue Dawn series coming out in two weeks.

  • @thorshammer8033
    @thorshammer8033 6 місяців тому +14

    Clan Wolf are the Ultramarines of Battletech

    • @thorveim1174
      @thorveim1174 6 місяців тому +3

      This is so true... And sad because there was a good reason they were more effective than other clans during the invasion era (being the one clan that didnt neglect their logistics and not pissing off the populations of the worlds they conquered, same for their tukkayid win, its because they both dropped in dead last against an already tired opposition on purpose and because comstar went easy on them, seeing they were against the invasion, just forced to partake in it). I always like to say that clan wolf is what happens when clanners use their brain instead of their inadequate honor code and dont overestimate themselves.
      Nowadays though they are pure mary sues, getting completely undeserved wins (like, how the hell is the ungarrisoned wolf empire STILL not taken over even in a book that was supposed to be all about it?)

    • @iller3
      @iller3 6 місяців тому +1

      to the point that even us lifelong Wolf simps started to find it as Tex put it: "ehh, it's a bit Much..."

    • @thorshammer8033
      @thorshammer8033 6 місяців тому

      @@iller3 yep.

  • @GamingWithSpoons
    @GamingWithSpoons 6 місяців тому

    I've started diving into video games myself and analyzing video games stories.

  • @CanuckWolfman
    @CanuckWolfman 6 місяців тому +2

    How right wing is BattleTech? This is the setting with private ownership of fusion-powered, walking tanks. Just as the Founding Fathers intended...

  • @Wastelandman7000
    @Wastelandman7000 6 місяців тому +1

    And they are right, a Death Corps being a perpetual would be hell for the Kriieger LOL

  • @tubetorpedo
    @tubetorpedo 6 місяців тому

    Whan Razor was talking about modern solutions for food delivery boxes, I was thinking on the lines of automated weapon system, not decoy boxes with job applications. 😁

  • @jessicalacasse6205
    @jessicalacasse6205 6 місяців тому +1

    homelander is the emperor during terra and the sup are the thunderwarrior

  • @thesteellegionnaire4570
    @thesteellegionnaire4570 6 місяців тому +1

    Good to know me and my friends aren’t the only ones to disregard everything Gathering Storm onwards.

  • @pedrogorostiza6703
    @pedrogorostiza6703 6 місяців тому +2

    Amazing stream guys subscribed to razor

  • @CanuckWolfman
    @CanuckWolfman 6 місяців тому

    *"...And to do that, they need to hit every single level."*
    They struck like lightning, attacking our society on every level at once. But they made one mistake: *they attacked MY autistic interest!*
    Now, in the spirit of the Star League, ancient grognards have reunited. And we're gonna take back our galaxy!

  • @Minnesota_Fatts
    @Minnesota_Fatts 6 місяців тому +1

    Ohhh this should be GOOOD.

  • @gowankommando
    @gowankommando 6 місяців тому +2

    The statue at Bohemian Grove is that of Moloch, not Baphomet

  • @RedwolfDogrocket
    @RedwolfDogrocket 6 місяців тому +8

    I was on a big battle tech server for the kek.
    They had a rainbow mech for degen month.
    I said I identify as a mech and does this mean I can walk on to any battlefield and they have to acknowledge my pew-pew noises or thats oppression?
    Instant hate speech from the battletech rainbow mob who refused to affirm my identity as a mech and then banned me!
    Such bigoted hatred from the battle tech rainbow alliance!

  • @michaelmcgrath6427
    @michaelmcgrath6427 6 місяців тому

    I am in the machining industry. Metal infused filaments and 3d printers and that use powdered steel and iron are used already. Just wait for the price drop

  • @Karthig1987
    @Karthig1987 6 місяців тому +1

    Mr freeze was ruined for the Arkham games? I. Thought he was good there. The Batman beyond show episode was amazing too.

  • @RyanEX2000
    @RyanEX2000 6 місяців тому

    To be fair to Battletech.
    The earlier Clan invasions were by individual Clans that relied on speed and their superior mechs to push them forward. Once they got bogged down or outran their supply chains they hit a fall pretty fast.
    The exceptiion of course being Mary Sue Wolves. Hell, the main reason the Clans lost at Tukayiid was because of their fighting style of using a few as possible vs the Inner Sphere style of throw everything at it and Comstar used that against them.
    The IlClan era is where the Clans basically throw aside their idea of honor to the point where the Wolf leader refuses a batchall and the Wolves and Falcons work together.
    It's still fanfictiony, but the story did have potential...if it wasn't mostly just another Clan Wolf fanwank.

    • @spartanonxy
      @spartanonxy 6 місяців тому

      Thing is in the end they just threw the board back to zero AGAIN. Oh sure now it is the Wolf Empire and not Comstar or the Republic but the balance of power is once again back to zero. Pretty much after Fedcom fell I checked out of the lore. Because rather then a lore of political intrigue, espionage and conflict as everyone tries to grapple with the 800 pound bear in the room they just reset the board once their then current storyline ended.
      I think in the end the constant resets of the board are what has people checking out of IlClan more then anything. As at this point we know any major world changes beyond adding different paint schemes will be erased within 4 or 5 years for all intents and purposes.
      TLDR less the Wolves and more the writers not allowing stakes to exist in the overarching lore.

  • @jesse3086
    @jesse3086 6 місяців тому +18

    If its another dev stream... oh..

    • @jesse3086
      @jesse3086 6 місяців тому +17

      Honestly. Stop inviting him on when theres something interesting to discuss. Blaghh Blahh lefty canadian position Blaghh Blaghhh we got it.

    • @iller3
      @iller3 6 місяців тому

      it really wasn't though, he didn't full lib-regarded like he did with Sargon

    • @jesse3086
      @jesse3086 6 місяців тому

      @iller3 I'm still so salty over him ruining that last stream. If I see him, I just watch something else. F that annoying, self-centered clown.

  • @alexanderm8880
    @alexanderm8880 6 місяців тому +1

    I ended up preordering the Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra. GW pushed me past the point of no return lol

  • @giguyjoe
    @giguyjoe 6 місяців тому

    1:11:05 That one was more a Maxor invention but yeah Armstrong definitely steals the whole show by game's end.

  • @veameal9725
    @veameal9725 5 місяців тому

    If I can I'll 3d print some Tzeentch custodes.
    You know what I am going for ;)

  • @xedrickOG
    @xedrickOG 6 місяців тому

    The only time gw partially digitized its buisiness was when you could order your custom built freeblade imperial knight through the mobile game warhammer 40k freeblade

  • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0
    @zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0 5 місяців тому +1

    The beta dude being on the left seemed very appropriated.

  • @SicFromTheKush
    @SicFromTheKush Місяць тому

    Razor said it best in the past. You gotta fight them on the existing fields and build strongholds without them

  • @H_Hold
    @H_Hold 6 місяців тому +6

    Raaaaaayzorfist 🤙

  • @Beard_Hood
    @Beard_Hood 6 місяців тому

    Arch and Razor are a really good combo. Toss in SFO for contrast and it becomes interesting.
    Me ne feugo us my biggest fear. I don't want scocity to no longer care about being perceived as racist, but I think its inevitable at this point

  • @user-do1kg1py1d
    @user-do1kg1py1d 3 місяці тому

    Luetin is pretty cool dont hate :) arch is bit grimmer in tone and way of telling lore.

  • @xxCrapNamexx
    @xxCrapNamexx 6 місяців тому +5

    The big problem stopping 3d printers being in every house isn't the technical side of it but it's the fact the resin is toxic so you need a well ventilated space to use it. A lot of home printing hobbyists will probably be getting lung cancer 10 years down the road imho. That said indie and 'aa' miniature companies having printer farms for production is cutting down on costs whilst delivering higher quality products than traditional metal, resin and newer pvc/siocast moulding, especially with new flexible resin formulas designed for tabletop play.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 6 місяців тому

      How often do you think they print? Things smell much worse when I use paint. My printer has a filter and a hole where it vents that I can vent to outside. You clearly don't know what you are talking about and a pretty vile person gor basically wishing cancer on people that probably aren't going to get cancer.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 6 місяців тому

      Flexible resin? Wow you are slow... yeah you want resin that flexes so you can put paint on it and it cracks... you should stop talking

  • @whisped8145
    @whisped8145 6 місяців тому

    2:09:30 Not Minerva... Moloch. Look him up. Canaanite thing. Canaanite history and culture is relevant to know about. You'd love it. I have a book of anecdotes about and from the greatest post-war chancellor of Germany, Helmut Schmidt, in which he too reminisces about having been invited to the Bohemian Grove. He only commented on it as he "didn't like it and didn't go again" - which is the most diplomatic way to go about that madness.

  • @fencserx9423
    @fencserx9423 6 місяців тому +5

    Suffer not
    Suffer not
    Suffer not

  • @williambellamy1024
    @williambellamy1024 6 місяців тому +1

    Batman as steampunk guy? Is that a reference to Gotham by Gaslight? That came out in 1989 originally and I will admit I liked it. I liked the animated film a little better. Is there another portrayal of Batman in a steampunk setting?

  • @philomathist6899
    @philomathist6899 6 місяців тому +1

    Razorfist would be the best corn follower! All you need to do is annoy the writer enough.

  • @ArnoModelstate
    @ArnoModelstate 6 місяців тому +1

    36:00 So seeing that they made Carl into their IP, wouldn't he be able to sue them out rite by also being in the UK ?

  • @coureurdesbois6754
    @coureurdesbois6754 6 місяців тому +3

    "people are dying because they put rat poison in the drugs."
    IDK, have you tried not doing any drugs? That would reduce the arm a whole lot.
    The "I'm not hurting anyone but myself" argument is also weird because you're basically hurting everyone around you and the entire society.

  • @MadMechanica
    @MadMechanica 5 місяців тому +1

    No, not everything is political. Everything is political to THEM, it’s all a matter of perception and whether or not you’re indoctrinated to the cult.
    If one has been hard wired and programmed to believe politics everywhere, they will see it everywhere.

  • @Weeklong_Seagull
    @Weeklong_Seagull 5 місяців тому

    Everybody knows Carl is an iron warrior. Lotus within lotus without

  • @Bigotsandwich1995
    @Bigotsandwich1995 6 місяців тому

    I take it you have heard about bo-ing?
    (Laser appears on your foreheads)
    NO!!! I HAVENT HEARD A DAMN THING!!!

  • @captainteutonica5474
    @captainteutonica5474 6 місяців тому

    20:28 I understood that reference

  • @Silenthero66
    @Silenthero66 5 місяців тому +1

    Not everything is political, but everything is *cultural*

  • @owlsayssouth
    @owlsayssouth 6 місяців тому

    do not tempt fate Arch, we don't need a fucking remake of MLP:FIM to happen just to spite the people who like it.
    also: read the fanfiction "StarDust", a MLP / X-Com crossover fic. it's fantastic. sadly the sequel story stalled out and the author has been silent for some years. but as with other fanfictions, there is always the chance of the author returning to it. but it does a good job of maintaining the characters, while introducing the dark elements of X-com in a reasonable way. quite enjoy the X-com characters as well.
    i am so glad i gave MLP a watch back in the day. only because of Q being in it, was why i watched out of curiosity. but it's got some fun stories in canon, and more importantly some great Fan works. never watched all of the show, though i should probably give the other episodes / seasons a chance, and not just the scattering i watched.

  • @DarkKnightCuron
    @DarkKnightCuron 6 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @Giriko3490
    @Giriko3490 4 місяці тому

    34:40 see that makes more sense. One could also make a case for nurgle, given his weight (I am admittedly p fat tho)