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Elite Dangerous Guide | 2024 Thargoid Spire Site Guide | Becoming a Billionaire
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- 28/05/24 Orthus bonds have been nerfed (37.5%): Orthrus 40,000,000 → 15,000,000
How to make easy money in Elite Dangerous (Odyssey Only), the easiest way to become a billionaire. Obviously if you have only been playing for few hours and have only a handful of million then its not for you.
Team work is the only way to make decent money. So join the anti-zeno initiative to find out where the active spire site is, be sure to join their private server too.
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Anti xeno initiative discord / discord
Spire Etiquette: Do not fire upon Orthus until the leader and other team members fire, as random shutdowns ruin it for everyone. Some folk will fire lasers near the Orthus to mark it out for attack, this is not a signal to attack but to prepare for attack. Its best to only hit inbounds until you have enough firepower for outbounds. Do attack scouts at will, Cyclops too, though they will probably fire on you first, but remember that Cyclops fire back and punish you if you're not ready for it. Try not to fly too close to outbound orthus as they too will fire shutdown. Call out targets on discord or in game chat, give a direction from the centre of the spire and mark as inbound (ib) or outbound (ob), ie "360 ib" for north inbound, "230 ob" for southwest outbound, or state landmarks - "4 main spire ob" is an unpopular one. If the spire is plagued by many scouts then focus on them before engaging the next target, or stop hitting so many outbounds. Communicate :)
Shields are useful for higher G planets and in instances with disorganised commanders with lots of random shutdowns, the anaconda is mostly fine shieldless though. You rely more on caustic sinks when shielded though as silent running/burn off will kill your shield anyway, use biweaves with fast charge to help mitigate this.
Guardian weapons: mod-shards and mod-plasmas are best, but they will be destroyed at random from shutdowns, so bring at least 2 AFMUs and only repair to 3-5% each time to save on repair ammo.
**Caustic Sink Module is now unlocked at rescue ship so use a couple of these on your build, engineer their ammo if possible**
**correction you will gain bonds not bounties, these can be doubled with Arisa Lavigny-Duvel or Zachary Hudson power play**
Builds
Chieftain
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FAS
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Krait2
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Corvette
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Anaconda is the best ship: most firepower - swap out a hull reinforcement for a 6C biweave (fast charge) for high G spires or hard instances (shutdown), corrosion cargo rack is only for collecting meta alloy & other Thargoid droppings, replace with another AFMU if not needed. Also, swap the AXMCs for a mod-shard gib build (need more heat sinks though). Here’s the build:
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Asp Explorer
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Vulture
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Or you could use a Viper Mk4 for ~9.5M, one chap was lasting quite a long time in a Sidewinder. A sidewinder build would cost around 1.65M
0:00 Intro
0:23 Chief Build
6:19 Travel Dangers
7:20 Spire Farming
28may2024: Combat bonds have been changed and Orthus hunting now makes less money, so while still lucrative you will make more than 60% less. Here are the changes…
Cyclops 6,500,000 → 8,000,000
Basilisk 20,000,000 → 24,000,000
Medusa 34,000,000 → 40,000,000
Hydra 50,000,000 → 60,000,000
But this is great for interceptor hunters, every cloud…
Orthrus 40,000,000 → 15,000,000
Elite is my top fav game. I always learn something new. Awesome video!
Thank you, I’m a little addicted to elite, I had to change my channel name from GTA as I wanted to do some elite, it’s such a great game, glad you enjoy it too
I love your "laid back" style Cmdr and I too really love this game and I played the original Elite for 2 years in 1984 on a BBC Model B. And since 2020 when I came across it again in the Horizons version on Steam. Now have over 4k+ hrs played. Subbed and liked
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with best regards from Cmdr [BRAVO 2 ZERO] Buur Pit Squadron
Thanks, I played elite on the model B too, though dont remember much about it, shooting up the space stations to get the police out. I spent more time in Frontier on the Amiga, where I got to mine, carry passengers and shoot stuff up. ED takes it to the next level, especially in VR, its still a good game. I read Bravo 2 Zero, its a good account, he does some good fictional books too, easy readers with some interesting details, good egg that McNabb.
@@y_ffordd I took early retirement from the MoD (Hereford) in 2012 and I have a lot of respect for what the Squadrons do when asked.
@@cmdrbravo2zero726 early retirement sounds like the dream, the shifts catch up with you thats for sure.
I'm getting pretty good at Titan dives but have never done a spire. This guide seems pretty good and I plan to use it to attempt one. Thanks for this!
Its worth a go, both are fun, but Ive been finding Titans a bit easier. The Spires can be very easy, it depends on who is there, but if they shoot everything then there can be lots of interceptors, if that happens its not the norm, but lots of commanders do a live stream on antixenoinitiative, so its worth watching that to see the situation, its best when there is a leader organising folk. I hope you enjoy it, they are magnificent structures.
oh you probably know this, but dont forget to put the caustic sinks on.
my only problem with guides like this is you basically need to have some experience with combat (especiallyt against thargoids) in the game. i have none, so the only way for me to really make money is wait for a community event for just hauling materials. kinda sucks too cause i would love to help out with the war, knowing that once we destroy the titans, that'll likely be it and the war will be over, so if you miss out, you miss out.
beyond that, this is a great guide.
Thanks, yes I assume that folk have dabbled in combat, but it depends on how many rebuys you have, and engineering helps too. But you can make it to the titan and spire sites when they are dead with minimum risk, though you still need a quick ship to boost away from interdictions and to not panic, the latter being very important. But if you have notes on what you need to do, you should be able to make it. With the spires hitting the orthus is normally easy as they are very slow, it’s managing the other factors ether can trip you up, caustic management is tricky but once you recognise the sound of caustic then you learn to boost away. Then the shutdown fields can mean you crash, but as long as you don’t travel at speed at the ground you rarely get caught out and it’s not a rebuy. Interceptors can be tricky but there’s usually plenty folk to help out and the chieftain is tanky, again it comes down to keeping on top of repairs so you have the damage capacity. But yes, at first it’s tricky for anyone, oh and pip management, there’s another one, shieldless is better as you don’t need to recharge shields. Oh one thing you could do is crew up with somebody who has a seat on their ship to take in the sights, do some gunning, maybe worth it.
@@y_ffordd thanks for the tips, i'll try to get out there soon
Great guide, thank you!
👍 o7
Thank you, Elite inspired me, o7 chum
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
o7 commander! Try to hit silent running AND your lasers to overheat quicker. You can even boost too. I know, it doesn´t make any sense because the heat should stay inside the ship and should not overheat the hull to burn this nasty caustic slime but somehow it works.
Yes, I thought that was what I showed, lasers and silent running, you can boost too to heat yes. Though now anyone can throw on caustic sinks too.
A fellow South Walien? Instant subscribe, shwmae cmdr!
Diolch, we wont talk about the 6 nations :(
I’ve been looking into doing this recently, just after finally doing successful runs on the Titan with my corvette. Im still fairly new so no engineering parts, and trying this solo… yeah didn’t work, didn’t die but didn’t kill them, was dealing with those small drones too much. Seems it is only viable with teams, but I’m.. to shy to enter a discord/team up with more experienced cmdr’s, since I’m still new.
You can take one down with a corvette or anaconda solo, you want around 4 or more mod-shards or mod-plasma. The anaconda 6 mod-shard build kills them rapidly but I like having one AXMC for scouts.
But, you are better off with chums, you can still join the AXI private server and work with other commanders without discord. I often listen in on discord on mute as I can’t talk, then you can at least listen to instructions from the coordinator, they are friendly. Even if you don’t join discord, then follow other commanders lead, never hit an orthus first, destroy scouts when ever you can though.
Hope you can join in, at the moment all AXI are targeting oya titan which should go down today, but the next spire target will be up soon.
Oh a the titan is very easy solo, you have to make 2M for a sticker, livery etc. here is my video: ua-cam.com/video/dTkJ8z0hpsk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
It won’t make much money but it’s enjoyable for the experience
@@y_ffordd Ye, I went in with buddies for the Titan, I did bombing runs on the core with just ax missiles. But using just ax missiles for the spire didn’t work yeah.
Hi ASB Explorer is it not recommended of Thargoids excursion? And is there a checklist on quickest way to get recommended gear for the ships? And tell us what is to write down so I check them off first time cmdrs please? Thanks.
There’s a list of builds in the description, the chieftain of FAS are safest, you could do it in an Asp but you will do need more rebuys. Depends on how new you are to general piloting and combat how many rebuys you will go through though.
But what time and what day are you on the spire site? XD
I also go to HIP 19870 but I am most of the time alone or sometimes 2.
Normally USA time is best, the weekends are good for open, but to guarantee you have support then log in to the antixenoinitiative private group on elite and join the discord to see if there are commanders at the site, they are normally in one of the active voice groups, join and listen in or ask, some stream videos to show what they are up to
everything is at their website antixenoinitiative.com/
Man i want to take my fully engineered t10 to a site to help out but that rebuy of 15m is gonna hurt
Do a Chieftain build first, as getting past the interdictions is the main tricky part, its a bit chaotic at the moment with many people on it. But you will get a few of your rebuy in the first kill. So try a Chief to get used to it then try the T10, they seem to do ok, though Ive not done a build, but as your engineered it should be good to go.
You mention right up front that you could use the Krait Mk. II or the Chieftain, but there is no build listed for the Krait?
Yep, I didn’t have a spare non engineered Krait to test so didn’t add it, but my build is something like this edsy.org/#/L=HE00000H4C0S40,L5120LYOI-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvLYOH-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvLYOI-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvEjHI07P_W0,EAk10EBD10CjxH02G_W0CjxH02G_W0,9onG05I_W0AAAG03K_W0APoG05I_W0AdtJ05J_W0AsOG02m_W0BAEH03L_W0BOmH05G_W0Bcg00,,0AA006kK1016yG05I_W016yG05I_W023u0013qG05I_W00KU1020m000HM90
I have yet to encounter a Thargoid I'm more focused on getting fully engineered and a cutter, or corvette.
Thargoids are fine even if you do come across them, I like the Corvette, makes pirate massacre easy, spires too. The Cutter is a tricky one for handling, not sure if I like it, but it’s growing on me.
Really great guide mate. New to your channel. Is it still as profitable 2months later
It’s still the most profitable, it depends on the team how much you make, there can be some randoms who don’t communicate, but with the double money power play move you double up so a billion an hour at least, though it takes a few hours to do the power play so I only did that when I had over ten billion in combat bonds (you don’t lose them when you dies)
where are you at to buy all this stuff? i'm at 61 ursae majdirs and i can't seem to find the multi-cannons, scanner, shutdown field, 6A thrusters, 5A life support
I got most at Shinratah Dezrah (elite rank unlock) the caustic sinks, shutdown field neutraliser I got from a rescue megashop. I used to use LHS 20 and Ross 584 before I unlocked Shinratah. Might be worth plugging in the missing components into inara to see if one station does it with discount inara.cz/elite/nearest-outfitting/?formbrief=1&pa3%5B%5D=80536&ps1=Shinrarta+Dezhra&pi18=0&pi19=0&pi17=0
Arissa Lavigny-Duval for bounties, not Aisling
Did I say Aisling-Duval? correct, its not the blue haired one, its her Mam, cheers.
@@y_ffordd 10:43 I need to start working on rank for ALD.
I'm in the market for a second Chief, so I just might try this build and see if I can get some spire site gameplay in before the end of the war. I've been away for a few months, and I'm starting to feel FOMO
You will be happy with the chief at the spire, I use the Challenger as you get an extra medium slot for modshards or modplasma. The transit to the spire site can be tricky, but all you have to do is silent running, heatsink and boost, or just boost away and get back to hypercriuse, that seems to be the part some struggle with. But just listen in on the anti xeno initiative discord, sometimes Im just on mute there so I know what I need to do, it can be quite frenetic at the moment as many folk are larging it up at the spire.
@@y_ffordd I've done a few AXI events, so definitely familiar with that. Forgot about the Challenger, so maybe I'll go that route instead, if I haven't already got a Challenger built lol
@@mbrsart You can swap components across so if the Challenger doesnt suit you can always swap back, depends on what works best.
May I ask if you are using roll on the x axis of the mouse?
I use a joystick now, I think I had the mouse with default settings, but can’t remember off the top of my head
Never use anything but light armor. It doesn't scale up in weight as you engineer it.
You lose a few hundred hull on a chief, that’s pretty significant, on a shielded build you could argue less hull but there is caustic and phasing damage and the Chief has great speed and manoeuvrability so what small losses you make there in the mass gain you more than make up with on hull. But if you are an excellent pilot then fair enough. But for beginners they need all the hull they can get, though all the ships I show here are unengineered, I would engineer them. Also the spire sites can be a real mess at times with many noobs setting off pulse waves, not dealing with scouts and the multi cyclops action, I would do military every time for that reason alone, I even put a shield on my corvette haha.
Not played for ages, maybe its time to dust off the old Anaconda.
I got as far as the menu, I'm so lost as to what I need to do! Been years.
It’s worth getting geared up asap, I heard the orthus are getting nerfed from 40M to 15M per kill, current spire target is HIP 19870 body 3B so get over there with whatever build you can muster, the anaconda is the best for the spires, it may be a free for all so worth using shields to begin, I haven’t checked out the state of play as I’m pretty busy right now, enjoy.
@@Jerecdamn, maybe the spires is a big bridge too far, you have to go there when you’re ready though, very atmospheric. You can do the training again to figure stuff out if you don’t want to risk the ship, think there’s an option in the loading menu when you choose public/solo etc
Wait, what greeting do you use?! It sounds like Cama'i (the Alutiiq word for hello)
It’s Welsh, specifically from the south Walian, shwmae is a general hello.
@@y_ffordd really neat! Thank you? The word I mentioned is pronounced almost identical. A hard ch at the beginning is the major change.
It ends up sounding sort of like (ch)em-eye
It's too bad they obsoleted the Guardian stuff. I was really liking the Salvation stuff, for the short amount of time that it was relevant.
But now they have the guardian engineering to prevent weapon breakage. Though you lose 20% damage. I just keep repairing my mod-shards to 3%, a slight inconvenience
I'm sorry but i'm confused, does using Neutralize prevent guardian weapon from breaking?
With the shutdown field neutraliser you want to bind it to a button then ideally press and hold that button as the wave hits, the release once past, which can be a second or so after the warning message, depending on distance. There is not always a warning too, but if you see the pulse bubble then hit it.
@@y_ffordd Yes i do know that, but if use it does my guardian module not being destroy by orthrus AGF?
@@thanhthai1586I don't know but you won't be able to run that constantly, of course. If you just keep your distance the AGF won't hit you
If you use guardian weapons then you will need to repair them, just repair to 5% or so to give the AFMU more endurance.
Can I use my Corvette for this ? I havent played for many many years, I have no DLC content build, its pretty much a base game decked out. I'm scared of getting destroyed by thargoids.
Yes, the Corvette makes it very easy, at first you might be best off with a shielded build, this means the thargs shoot you with phasing damage on the way in, but you should only lose 10-15% hull max. I use shields when there are lots of randomers and on high G planets, otherwise replace the shield with another hull reinforcement. Here is what I think my build is, though mine is only partially engineered and prob uses mainly guardian hull, you can build an Anaconda similar to this, its very survivable, but make sure you repair regularly and if you run out of caustic sinks then use the decontamination limpets so you dont have to down your shield edsy.org/#/L=Hz00000H4C0S00,L5100LYOG-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvLYOG-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvLYOG-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvLYOG-2G0090y0051Cp98HkDFm0H058K_7YP4JAV700YpXvEhtG07P_W0EhtG07P_W0,EAk00EBD00CjwG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0,9onG05I_W0ADIG07G_W0ARMG05I_W0AfQG05J_W0Aty00BBoG03L_W0BRu00Bcg00,16z0016yG05I_W0,4qI000Bk007WCG09I_W00PA0016yG05I_W016yG05I_W025S0015OG05I_W023u003Gm001-C00,Spire_0Corvette
ps if you dont have either MOD-shards or MOD-plasmas then use either all Enhanced AX multicannon, or a mix of enhanced AX MC and AX missiles. the missiles for the orthus, the MCs for the scouts.
@@y_ffordd thank you very much !
You cant sadly as i found out the hard way in order to do anything against the thargoids you need to own the Odessey DLC
@@EnviousSnake Wait really ?
Do you actually make a billion per hour from this, or is this simply UA-cam jargon? Should I ditch my 100 mil/hour mining?
A billion per hour is possible, depends on how effective the team are your working with. But the power play doubling of the money should make it easy, though as you need to get to level 5 power play to do that you need to factor in more hours (4hour) for that. I don’t do click bait, I’m not a big youtuber, this is the best way of making money in elite. Even in worst case of not doing power play, 500m per hour is far more than anything else.
@@y_ffordd That's nice to hear, looks like I'll be looking for a career change then. How much money do you think a lone (solo play), fully engineered cutter / corvette could do per hour?
How can I find the site please help what system ?
The current spire target is HIP 19870 body 3B, check antixenoinitiative.com to join their private server.
This bullshit doesn't work. I tried for 3 hours with a fully MADMAN engineered and Xeno'd out Conda and couldnt even put a dent in shit at the spire. That was solo. There is NO way to kill the Thargoid ships before they warp out or go in their little hole. Also there is almost no way to avoid the pulse they throw at you.
You spent 3 hours and didn't kill one? what is your MADMAN build? have you watched the video? the most efficient way of doing this is in groups, which is why I recommend joining the AXI group server. Also you can kill them solo in an anaconda, I've done it with 4x mod-shards, but it takes time and is not effective, which is why I don't recommend solo, you need to wait until their shield goes down then shoot. Check out the description if you want more details, or watch the video again.
Hello! How do you lower your shields so the thargoids don't hear you?
Silent running will lower your shields, pop a heatsink as it will heat up your ship, but I don’t use shields, when I have a shielded build I just pop a heatsink and boost away and get back into supercruise ASAP
Thank you!@@y_ffordd
bonds not bounties need to use Zach Hudson to double the bonds
Thanks I added the correction in the description, the image is correct even if the speech isn’t ;)
Everything in every game is just "get on discord" anymore
You don’t have to get on discord, your better off joining the AXI session though, just follow other peoples lead and don’t go hitting random orthus and it’s fine.
@@y_ffordd Do you have a video on this? I really don't feel like doing 100s of passenger runs again. Lol
I literally just started 😂 I’m no where near billionaire from poverty ohwell exploration begins
Yep, I wouldnt worry about the billions then, just enjoy learning to pilot the ships and figure things out. Exobiology should earn you some nice money, you could also see if you could join sombodies multicrew to experience some spire sites, but better to get to the point where you can afford a Chieftain, enjoy.
South Walien eh!
The best part ;)
the discord link is expired :(
Strange, it works for me, try it from their main website antixenoinitiative.com where the discord is on their menu on top left hand side drop down menu
@y_ffordd yeah I had to copy and paste the discord invite from the link in to discord join server thing
So glad I don't do this in open, the amount of panic shields from these idiots constantly spamming lasers must be insane
It’s a mixed bag, it can get worse too, I was chased by 5 interceptors in one session that was full of randomers, tried catching it on video but didn’t work out, I just got blown up, think that was medusas. There’s so many doing AX now, driven by the liveries on offer no doubt, maybe they should do more livery content.
@@y_ffordd clopses should be prioritized over orthuses... You got another reason why I'm glad I do this in the AXI PG... We all coordinate to voice and communicate when we should disengage from orthrus and focus on scouts/interceptors
Nope! Not going to do this waste of time! Inara has crapped out and given me false info 3-5 times ( first time ever had problems), and I tried to do some engineering and I don't get it. I locked one with some metal and they want something that is not known to make them like me more??? This makes no sense, I think I will go back to quitting this game for another 2 years. Hey, good video and the build looks good!
@@the4thj they are changing engineering to make it easier soon, maybe take a month off and come back to it when the engineering has been made easier. Or just fly without engineering, enjoy being a space pilot and avoid the grind. I’ve been doing the Thargoid stuff because of the the war and feeling like I just want to fly my ships around mountains and through canyons, like when I was doing exobiology in my Cobra4 or even better the eagle mk2, I also found just learning fa off in an eagle or sidewinder similarly relaxing, like meditation. I hope you find some peace in your time away from the grind, thanks for the compliment and have the best of weekends.
@@y_ffordd I need a break been playing srtight taking a few days till wednesday, they should really be doing more after 2 years though, I used to by $20 passes and nothing would drop. they seem to for get that, everyone else does too. I am trying not to be negative here
Can you do this with a Mamba?
I did an FDL build, it didn’t die but wasn’t the strongest, the Mamba should get through the interdictions on route, and should do ok, there is a build on anti xeno initiative website, gives 1775 hull, should be ok but don’t hang around in the caustic, it’s engineered though edsy.org/#/L=HC00000H4C0S00,L5100L5100L5100EhtG07P_W0EhtG07P_W0,EAk00EB400CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjxG02G_W0CjwG-2G002P000S_00,9onG05I_W0AAAG05K_W0AOEG05I_W0AcIG05J_W0AsOG02G_W0B8gG03L_W0BLAG04W_W0BZY00,,6kK0015OG05I_W005U000Iw0020m001-C00,Maelstrom_0mamba,AXIN
Poverty to rebuy in 12 minutes or less.
I would not call this the quickest or easiest way to make billions. I'm sure it works. It's just way too complicated for just "anybody" to try.
It’s not aimed at absolute beginners, it’s assumed you will have some combat experience as you would expect with most Thargoid activity. This video was made before the nerf.
I don’t think I had any rebuys on the Chieftain or FAS builds, so while your title idea is catchy, it doesn’t reflect my experience, but you can probably see it’s not unrealistic that you could make money very fast, sure it’s less fast now, maybe I should change the title, any more suggestions?
Also, what is the quickest and easiest way to make money now?
Promo SM
>poverty to billionaire guide
>needs ship worth 60 million to begin with
It’s a bit of a UA-cam exaggeration. But you could make it to a Spire with a Cobra mk3, with a few rebuys, then tag a few orthus and you have a chieftain, it depends on risk appetite. Just be sure you get in the anti xeno initiative discord and session.
@@y_ffordd that process wouldn't take an hour but likely weeks of playing...
@@sidremus Its entry level AX but its still AX, its not for folk who have been playing Elite for few hours, I could have gone for millionaire to billionaire, but it doesnt have the same ring to it. But the prices are clear from the very start of the video, a billion/hour is achievable once you get to the Spire site, some videos quote 2B/hour, which I could have used but didnt as it's aimed at beginners to Spires and I thought this would be a stretch. The cheapest ship that I had was the asp explorer at 33 M, this ship is easily achievable for beginners, the Chieftain too when you look at the high payouts of exobiology. And the poverty to billionaire in an hour, its doable from the point you get to the spire with the gear, I didnt include transit time, which for an experienced commander could be weeks if they are out in the black. But if you think this video is entirely dishonest then you should make your own to set things right, thanks for the feedback.
Horizon legacy player be like = ☠☠
Yep, one of the few times that console got the bum deal.
@@y_ffordd i dont know if i want to play the Live Horizon again, i hear it require new progress and im wondering if all Carrier at Horizon legacy are active or not since i do diamond mining on offline. this sad, the dev split playerbase
I don't care what they do but if they don't put VR in the whole game there will be no money for anything from me.
I like the vr, the cockpit in vr is amazing. It’s a bit sad that the on foot bit doesn’t work but I don’t do much of that.
Okay, bye then.
Im kinda surpriced there is still some creator that making content on Elite. I see that game already dead... Sadly.
It's not dead.
It’s not dead, there’s still a very active community, the game is still supported and gets updated. Maybe you shouldn’t believe everything the popular UA-camrs publish. Have you ever played elite?
I do on console sadly
My advice? Get your eyes checked.
@@plaguedoctor03 shame they couldnt keep up the console support to keep the community involved.