In 1960 when I was 8 , my family drove from upstate new york to orlando fl. It was the first time I saw the shacks along the road. This was before rt 95 was complete , maybe rt 17 in ga. Much later as an adult in business around 1995 . We had some military contracts near savannah. From there, I went cross country to Tallahassee Fl . I saw the same shacks next to white mansions just different addresses. My New York survival mode kicked in and I kept driving. Will it ever change , I just do not know.
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Neil Young, in his 2012 memoir," Waging Heavy Peace", wrote this about his song "Southern Man", "I don't like my words when I listen to it today. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, too easy to misconstrue.
Extended quote: "Alabama richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don’t like my words when I listen to it today. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, too easy to misconstrue." And: "I’d rather play ‘Sweet Home Alabama’ than ‘Southern Man’ anytime"
@White Devil Yeah he definitely didn't say he was embarrassed. Like he's always done, he spoke what was on his mind. Whether you agree with that is up to you. He regretted the way he put it.
Sori you're 100% wrong, WOW please research both songs before you make such a blatant comment.! It really upsets me when people whom I thought were smarter than this make such ignorant comments...........IF you would've researched this song and SHA you would understand that its not racist at all, and VIN seriously stating that this song is relatively UNKNOWN?????????????? OMGOSH EDIT: this album has sold over 6 million albums.......
The meaning of some of the lyrics in Sweet Home Alabama are just the opposite of what you think. It's celebrating putting the racism and segregation behind and moving forward as a southerner from Alabama.. 1974 when the song came out, Wallace won re-election on renouncing racism and segregation, Watergate scandal was left behind. Does your conscience bother you? As the lyrics go, move past the past.
Andrew Brorherton. Yes, yes, yes, - musically it is more akin to what they would usually review, and lyrically as true now as when it was written (maybe more so).
Timothy McCann, I’m a little late getting in on this but this song was just as popular as SHA. There is no one my age that hasn’t heard this song and most of us still know the lyrics. They were both equally popular IMO. They are two different genres, LS is southern rock and NY is folk rock. Folk rock and protest type of music was very popular back then.
@@jaquespasquinel8711 I believe it was both songs because both came across as pretty accusatory towards those of us that live in the South and Ronnie and Lynyrd Skynyrd was having none of that having band members born and raised in the south
The guys in Skynyrd we’re friends with Neil Young. There is a famous Skynyrd performance where Ronnie Van Zandt is wearing a Neil Young shirt. Please check out The Ballad Of Curtis Loew by Skynyrd. It paints a broader picture of Skynyrd’s view on race.
This song is not relatively unknown! It plays every 5 minutes on classic rock radio! Neil Young is known as one of the greatest song writers ever! You guys are in Maine, how do you not hear Neil Young everywhere you go?
I first heard Southern Man on the Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young album 4 Way Street. It is on the second lp performed with electric guitars. The first lp was all acoustic. At that time Protest Songs were very popular.
It's not fair for you to say this is "SJW-ish" when this was released during a completely different time period where this was controversial. It's easy to look from a modern lens and say, "Oh, this isn't brave, people talk about this all of the time now," when the discourse is different now. If this song were released today, I'd completely agree that this is self-affirming garbage, but context is important when looking at any piece of art.
Nicolas Deep right on! These kids a product of the educational system that doesn't teach " history" anymore, they get some facts but mostly commentary ....also the delicate " don't offend me, snow flake mentality". Yeah, not a channel I can get into, man.
@@negf22 You think you were taught real history? 😂😂😂😂😂 You were taught the MYTH of America. And apparently swallowed every drop. We've never taught history in this country. We've only ever taught an American folktale that reinforces the status quo and discourages critical thinking. One that invariably places the descendants of colonizers above the descendants of natives and slaves. One that encourages wealth consolidation and unquestioning loyalty. "Swear fealty to those who pick your pockets." That's not history, that's propaganda.
You do realize that Skynyrd supported the most liberal Presidential candidate of that era in Jimmy Carter, right? I don't think you got the message of Sweet Home Alabama. Ronnie was condemning both Wallace and Neil Young painting all Southerners with a broad brush.
Neil Young released his 40th solo album "Peace Trail," in 2016. Young returned to his folk roots, taking on a role as musical storyteller as he raises his voice for the environment and the rights of indigenous people.
Lynyrd Skynyrd's Sweet Home Alabama was a reply to Neil Young that not all Southerners are portrayed in Neil Young's song Southern Man. And the Confederate flag that you see in their videos in the 70's were just to represent the South and before the flag became a racist symbol. Ronnie Van Zant was not a racist. He was from Northern Florida. Just to clarify, Lynyrd Skynyrd were "booing" Governor George Wallace. Look at the lyrics. They say: "In Birmingham They Love The Governor...Boo Boo Boo" Also, FYI, Skynyrd and Neil Young were actually friends.
After everything you said then you call Neil Young a sjw? And go back to Canada? This could be one of the most ignorant reviews I have ever listened to.
Absolutely. He's saying that you can't get involved in global injustice because "America". I guess we can't criticize any other country's actions then. So if we want to talk about the abuse of women in a lot of Middle Eastern countries, NOPE, because we weren't born there. Although I'm sure he's ranted, and ranted, about his opinions of other countries. He should do the channel a favor and delete this video. I unsubscribed. I don't need this trashy nationalistic bullshit popping up on my radar.
Neil was a Canadian and was responding mostly to what he observed by touring the South. Actually I believe that the song Alabama that was on Neil's Harvest album, along with Southern Man were the inspiration.
Okay, so Young's song is a blanket statement against all southern men as if everyone in the south is for racism and like that. But Skynyrd is saying they're not ashamed to love where they're from despite the connotation. It's like today, we're not going to be ashamed of being white because liberals want us to feel that 'white guilt'. I'm not ashamed to be a white man, nor do I feel white guilt. I'm proud of where I came from. Just because you're southern doesn't mean you're holding the whip. That's what Skynyrd is saying to me. I live in Michigan, my family fought for the north, I'm of Irish heritage, so I know we didn't own any slaves. But I grew up in the Houston area. Everyone I knew down there had strong southern heritage, waved the confederate flag, but they weren't racist. It wasn't a symbol of racism for them.
Exactly, well stated. Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!" Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives? Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on. Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war} Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical. As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}. Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}. Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents? And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}?
People used to use religion to justify their racism. So it would be ok to discriminate and such and even to have slaves. What you said about slavery is correct. It was not just in the south and most of the shipping industry to bring slaves over was in the north. It was more prevalent in the south because they needed farm labor.
HAHA, Neil Young and "Southern Man" are NOT "relatively unknown", Wow Vin, you're just talking out of your ass again. I understand you guys wanting to do and honest reaction to a song, but sometimes, a little research would do you some good. You totally missed the mark with SHA and have done it again with Southern Man.
@@billrobertjoe I like Skynyrd, but they're not in the same category as Neil. Not even close. Neil has 1180 copyrighted songs and counting. Neil networth $200,000,000. Skynyrd networth $75,000,000 Neil, solo artist. Skynyrd 8 piece band.
Civil Rights Act of 1960 Civil Rights Act of 1964 Voting Rights Act of 1965 Fair Housing Act of 1968 Civil Rights Act of 1968 Neil Young calls every man, woman and child in the entire southern United States "racists" 1970 Skynyrd gives Young the middle finger in a lyric, defending the beauty of the land and the hospitality of the people (which isn't even close to saying that slavery is okay, or that folks of any color are superior or inferior to anyone else) 1974 45 years later folks all over still can't pull their cabezas from their culos and just admit Skynyrd was awesome, the song is great, and your keyboard squabbling will never change those facts. 2019
I'm Canadian and did not take offense to your view on Neil Young talking shit, I will say that he did in fact, a couple of years ago, show his support for the indigenous people and wrote a protest song about the pipeline called Indian Givers. In that song he touches on how awful they have been treated historically and present day.
I'm a Canadian Too and Neil Young is a brainwashed, useful idiot shill hypocrite. Anyways; Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!" Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives? Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on. Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war} Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical. As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}. Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}. Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents? And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}?
The reason they were making Alabama out to be such a great place is they were saying the south isn't ALL horrible and horrible sights like Neil was saying. Don't judge the entire south by the actions of the racists because not all southerners are racist. Blanket assumptions are not ok ever, that is all the Skynyrd song was saying. It's really not that complex. - Lisa
Disclaimer: this is my opinion, not something that is attacking people. I am just expressing my thoughts as is perfectly permissible by the 1st amendment to the Constitution, and is a right given by my Creator. If you have a problem with it, express your opinion so others can see it, rather than attacking mine. Be mature, and civil in your reply, and we'll be just fine. If you see anything attacking in my comment, PLEASE tell me in a reasonable manner, and I will look in to it and change accordingly. It is not my goal to cause anger. While I am not saying that the things that went on then were not wrong, they most certainly were, I do think it is not right for black people who weren't ever slaves, or proponents of such people, to hold people who happen to live in a certain area accountable or blame them for things they themselves didn't do. That is the entire reason why we used to have prisons for those who couldn't pay taxes and would keep them there till they payed the taxes, and prisons where if the father died in prison because of a life sentence, the children would serve the sentence until it was up. The reason you don't hear about those is because they are ridiculous, and the mentality this song shows is along the same lines of thinking as those prisons were. Once again, everything that went on back then in relation to slavery was abhorrent, and terrible, but it shouldn't be the responsibility of the generations following to fix or "repay" the issues of the past generations.
Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!" Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives? Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on. Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war} Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical. As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}. Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}. Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents? And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}? BTW, there are blacks in Southern States who are not offended by the flag, who are proud to be southerners and who realize everything I just pointed out and who like the flag and even fly/use it
You guys are so thoughtful and analytical with your interpretations, you almost always make me see things from a new perspective and I love it! And I think you have an interesting take on this song and it may be valid in a vacuum, however I believe the foundation of your argument (that he is Canadian and should not weigh in on the matter) is incorrect for a few reasons: 1: Artists, Neil Young in particular don't sit down and say "I'm going to write a song today, hmm what subject should I write about?" it almost always hits them in a wave of inspiration brought on by something they hear, see or read about. Maybe he was talking to someone who had in-depth knowledge or firsthand experience of racism in the south and that just sent his mind into a whirlwind of emotions and ideas. Maybe while on tour in the late 60s, when he wrote the song, he actually saw injustice in the south. 2: You can't be sure what perspective he is writing and singing from, who knows where the artists mind goes once they're inspired by a thought. Maybe his mind takes him to the 1800s and he's visualizing these things through the eyes of a slave, maybe he's looking at it from the daughter of the plantation owner, Lilly Belle who is horrified by it. He mentions the bible, maybe he is looking through a biblical lens. He wrote a song called Revolution Blues on the "On the Beach" album about Charles Manson and actually sings it from Manson's perspective, it's an interesting song and quite chilling actually (especially because he and many other musicians from Laurel Canyon knew Manson}. 3 Probably most relevant of all is he wrote this whole album as a soundtrack for a movie. Dean Stockwell and Dennis Hopper gave him a screenplay to read, and he was so inspired by it he asked if he could write the soundtrack. The movie never got made and the screenplay was lost but it's impossible to know what part of the movie script inspired this song or what the context was within the movie. I wish the movie (After the Goldrush) would have gotten made, I think it would be interesting to see, if for no other reason than to see how this album relates to it. Once again, I love your videos and the different ways you make me think about things. Keep up the great work.
"Relatively unknown"? That would be an untrue in every sense. This song was very popular. And this country also prospered greatly off of the backs of the Irish and Italians too. Your whole interpretation of this scenario is whacked.
1972: Neil Young’s Alabama “What are you doing Alabama? You got the rest of the union To help you along What's going wrong?” 1973: Lynyrd Skynrd’s Sweet Home Alabama “Well I heard Mister Young sing about her Well I heard ol’ Neil put her down Well, I hope Neil Young will remember A southern man don't need him around anyhow” The song Southern Man is relatively unknown??? Like like uh what?
Sweet home Alabamas point is just because some people in the south are evil dont mean we all are. We should be able to be proud of the south at the same time separating ourselves from those who are racist. It is just as Racist to assume all southern folk are racist... the point Skynyrd was trying to make to Neil.
Their problem with what Young said had to do with how he was lumping all southern people together. He was just hating on southern people like everyone else does. That's why southern people like to use the flag in the first place. It's a fuck you to people who shit on the south. Southern people get really defensive because that is their home and their people. It's also worth noting that the singer for Lynyrd Skynyrd idolized Muhammad Ali. If you were racist that probably wouldn't be your idol. Also, they didn't really hate each other. It was more of a disagreement. Believe it or not, Young sang Sweet Home Alabama as a tribute to them at one point.
A very powerful song, although Ronnie Van Zant and the other members of the band had a friendly relationship with Neil Young. Skynyrd's reference to Young, in "Sweet Home Alabama" was done in jest.
Neil young has covered the the treatment of those indigenous to Canada. He has done a lot for social awareness of many people that have been wrongfully oppressed and massacred. I don't want to hear you talk shit about Nazi Germany, because you are not German. To say atrocities are not allowed to be spoken out against by people in countries where they did not happen, is ridiculous.
This song was right in the middle of the civil Rights movement. I was in the army when this came out. It was true that the guys from the south in my platoon were leaning towards racist! I was from San Diego and it seemed so out of touch to me. And no, California never had slaves! I was All for making the south pay! But I didn't feel I should pay.
the way I see it, neil is painting all of the south with the same brush, and combined with the song alabama, skynyrd had no choice but to respond to defend the south. Vin maybe I misunderstood your position, but it seems you think all the whites in the south had slaves... you couldn't be more wrong, only the wealthy did, as with the north. it's dishonest to claim the entire south is guilty. the three songs are obviously referencing Alabama's stance on segregation, and as I said before, you can't judge it based on todays standard... at the time many people even in the north had a difficult time doing away with segregation. it was a different time. If you still think Lynyrd Skynyrd was racist, I urge you to listen to "the ballad of curtis lowe"
and not even all the wealthy did; in both the south and north only a tiny, single digit, couple percentage of wealthy landowners did. the issue is blown WAAAY out of proportion by progrssives and globalists to scapegoat and demonize any and all whites and especially any and all whites from the southern u.s. it's absurd; while they ignore that every race and culture in human history have done these same and other crimes and wrongs to each other/others for aeons, andit was whites in the west that were ther first to officialy outlaw slavery and racism and create a comprehensive philosophy and system of laws against it
@@Iconoclastithon I agree with alot of that man, it's absurd to tie the battle flag to slavery, the only racist use of the flag was by racist group later, never by the confederate states.
Sweet Home Alabama was written in respons to Southern Man and a song called Alabama. Neil Young is one of the best songwriters ever. The godfather of grunge 😉 check out Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)
Ronnie Van Zandt loved Neil Young and his music, his response to Neil's Southern Man lyrics was to point out that not all southern men are racist, there are good and bad in the North and South, that's why Ronnie referenced you have Watergate and we have Wallace, so focus on your own problems instead of painting the south with one broad brush. We have good people here too.
this is getting out of hand guys. skynyrd are proud southerners. they are not racist. they respect southern values. southern values do no equal racism or hate or anything like that. all southern metal bands have and sing about same kind of thing. down, corrosion of conformity, pantera, eyehategod, etc etc etc.
The Confederate Flag that everybody is calling a racist flag, is actually the Battle Flag. If a flag is a racist flag, then the American Flag is racist. ALL SLAVES (all races) was brought here under the American Flag. Did you know that the Irish slave was considered less of human than a Black was? The Irish slave was cheaper than a Black slave. The Irish slave owners didn't care about their slaves because they was a "dime a dozen". Slavery wasn't brought into the Civil war until the middle of the war when Abe Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation (executive order). The Proclamation applied only to slaves in Confederate-held lands; it did not apply to those in the four slave states that were not in rebellion (Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and Missouri), nor to Tennessee (occupied by Union troops since 1862) and lower Louisiana (also under occupation), and specifically excluded those counties of Virginia soon to form the state of West Virginia. Also specifically excluded were some regions already controlled by the Union army. The Union got to keep their slaves. The initial cause for the war was tariffs and States rights. The South was bringing in most of the money that the U.S. was running on and most of that money went to the North and the South was getting the shaft. The war started when things was getting so hot that Abe Lincoln finally egged the South into firing the first shot at Fort Sumter in 1861. Two years later (1863) the Emancipation Proclamation two years after that (1865), the end of the war.
Bruce Dickenson - King in crimson from The Chemical Wedding album. It is so unbelievably heavy. They used bass strings on the guitars to make it sound thicker.
Showing your ass much... This whole discussion is in regards to both songs. In such a case, the north would be the northern USA to which I am referring.
I was just pointing out that Slavery was ended in Canada by a act of legislation not by war. Also Canada won its independence by legislation not by war. Who do you think is the more civilized country.
@@locusmortis rebel what? Lol we have far less problems than the USA. We don't start wars with other countries over oil. We are a peace keeping country not like how the USA still. Continues to take whatever it wants from other nations and will slaughter just for what they want. Really not much has changes since colonialism of the USA. They took what they wanted and slaughtered the people that were there before them. Please don't even try and to compare the USA and Canada. Whole different ball game of countries and people.
My family came from Ukraine and were starved by a government imposed famine which went on for years...they saw canabalism and killed to eat. They saw people dig up dead bodies and cook them. It ruined them, scared their souls and they lost everything and so many of their loved ones died. It is a sorrowful past. This hurts me ( I was born in the US) and it only went on for a few decades....slavery in the USA went on for generations. Sorrow!!!!
Neil Young is very well known. He was in Buffalo Springfield, who had a big hit called, "For What it's Worth." A really big Vietnam protest song. He was in Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. He toured on the same bill as Pearl Jam and went on stage last, after them. I saw him on that tour.
Slavery has been around since the beginning of humanity.one tribe has raided another tribe raped and pillaged. Taking of slaves has been the norm since the building of the pyramids in Egypt which is in Africa.sad but true slaves still exists in the world today
This song is about Lillie Belle Allen and her father who was a preacher. Lillie was African American and ambushed during the race riots in York, PA in 1969. 🎶 Lily Belle your hair is golden brown ... 🎶. You can search the whole story on line.
"Relatively unknown" song mainly because Neil Young is Canadian. Canada's hands weren't completely clean, heck the First Nations people themselves enslaved members of rival tribes long before Europeans arrived in 1604. Among some Pacific Northwest tribes about a quarter of the population were slaves. In 1628 the first recorded black slave in Canada was brought by a British convoy to New France. In 1759, there were approximately 4000 slaves, of which 2,472 were aboriginal people, and 1,132 blacks. Slavery in Canada was abolished in 1833. Neil Young began his first band in the mid 1960s and like many performers on both sides of the border, he wrote about anti-racism and anti-violence among other social injustices. Today, all those bands might be painted as "social justice warriors", which has become a slur of sorts lately, but that was not how they were perceived at that time.They were a voice for the downtrodden and marginalized parts of society.
You continue to mention Canada and slaves together. There was no Canada then. Canada was formed in 1867. Before that it was a British Colony. Get your facts straight.
I believe it was the song ALABAMA. Alabama lyrics by Neil Young.... [Verse 1] Oh, Alabama The devil fools With the best laid plan Swing low, Alabama You got the spare change You got to feel strange And now, the moment Is all that it meant [Chorus] Alabama You got the weight on your shoulders That's breaking your back Your Cadillac Has got a wheel in the ditch And a wheel on the track [Verse 2] Oh, Alabama Banjos playing through the broken glass Windows, down in Alabama See the old folks Tied in white robes Hear the banjo Don't it take you down home? [Solo] Alabama You got the weight on your shoulders That's breaking your back Your Cadillac Has got a wheel in the ditch And a wheel on the track [Verse 3] Oh, Alabama Can I see you and shake your hand? Make friends down in Alabama I'm from a new land I come to you and see all this ruin What are you doing, Alabama? You got the rest of the Union To help you along What's going wrong? FeaturingThe Stray Gators Produced ByNeil Young & Elliot Mazer Written ByNeil Young Release DateFebruary 1, 1972
The underground railroad ended in Canada. Neil Young has done a lot for first nations including songs about them. Also Neil Young recently got his US Citizenship and is now duel citizen.
Untofrunatelly, both of you got it all wrong (Sori did get the Boo! Boo! Boo! in the first song but you both didnt get the Irony of the lyrics). Musically, i like "southern man" a lot more, but lyrically, Young was wrong generalizing and THATS why the song remained "relatively unknown". Even if you cant get the lyrics of Sweet home Alabama, you should listen to "The Ballad of Curtis Loew" and then you will at least agree that a man that loves burning crosses and slavery cant have a black man as his idol at the same time.. Last but not least, Van Zant used to wear a t-shirt of Neil Young in many of his concerts and Neil Young paid tribute in 1977 singing Sweet home alabama. You know why? they were friends... The song was not the answer for Southern Man only but also for the Neil Young's song "Alabama" (1972 so it took a little more than 1 year and not 4 to answer to both songs) and the exact words of Van Zant was "We thought Neil was shooting all the ducks in order to kill one or two" and he was actually right.. In 2012 Young said "My own song 'Alabama' richly *deserved* the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don't like my words when I listen to it. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, and too easy to misconstrue". Also in 1975 Van Zant said "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor." and that "where the governor's true" at the end was Irony. Better do some research next time before you deside to escalate something that people are pointing is wrong..
Stathis s. That was such a convoluted reaction. What better person to write about what he sees than an outsider not blinded by “patriotism”? All one had to do was take a ride through the segregated south in 1968 to see how F’ed up it all was, especially Alabama. A songwriter has a few lines to convey his feelings or message and I think he hit it hard and accurately.... Harsh ? Yes Accurate? Yes
Amazing. Just shows the relevance of Neil Young and his song writing that this topic is getting long, well thought out comments almost 2 yrs later. I personally don't agree with Vin on really any of his points but it is a complex, emotional topic and I get this is not an academic or debate setting. In the end, I think Sori's honest, initial reaction spoke volumes about this song, particularly at 4:26 when she read/heard the verse about miscegenation and grabs Vin's arm. Subtle but intense moment. And its still a powerful and engaging song without offending this Southern Man.
Southern Man was not unknown. This song was huge among rockers in the 70s. Neil Young is an icon and was in two huge groups Buffalo Springfield and Crosby Stills Nash and Young.Also must note Neil Young was Canadian not from the North of the USA
He was in crosby stills and nash and david crosby said "neil is nothing like people think the way he treated others was terrible and i was glad to get away from him,"
Regardless of how these songs are interpreted by everyone, what a great era to be in the middle of this kind of music. Music is meant to not only inspired by the notes and instruments but by the thoughts expressed in the lyrics. You don’t see that anymore.
Actually, you folks should also listen to "Alabama" by Neil Young which is in context, the companion piece to this song. It uses the metaphor of Alabama being a big luxury car in the way of progress. Much more powerful song.
Another point of reference w/ regard to Sori mentioning "why Alabama?", is that Neil Young not only had the Southern Man tune, but he had another song called "Alabama", which also had similar references to which the song Sweet Home Alabama may have also been countering in it lyrics.
Sori gets it. She pointed out your hypocrisy, Vin, when it comes to commenting on other countries or groups woes. You are not German, Middle Eastern, Russian etc, "How dare you" comment on their past evils. LOL I think when artists create their music they expect people to be a little more discerning and not jump to the conclusion he is talking about all people, just the people that hold the bad beliefs. As to Neil Young being a SJW. Yes he is and it is not a bad thing. I find it very annoying when generally good or neutral terms are used pejoratively. What is wrong with social justice? I do get what you mean about SJW's coming to Sori's defense, as if she needs defending. LOL Social justice can be taken too far but lets not put everyone into the "bad" SJW camp. Keep up the great work. Definitely the best music reaction channel on UA-cam.
Putting the racial stuff aside, you guys should react to some more Lynyrd Skynyrd. They have so many amazing songs that don’t have the same kind of controversy that Sweet Home Alabama has. Some great songs to check out are “Simple Man”, “Tuesday’s Gone”, “The Ballad of Curtis Loew”, “On The Hunt”, and “That Smell”.
nah they need to hear the deep cuts like "things goin' on", "mr. banker", and "four walls of raiford" skynyrd were a lot more politically deep than people give them credit for
So I'm curious if you all would see Ghost's Ghuleh/Zombie Queen as sticking to their standard formula or standing out a bit...for entertainment purposes the live SiriusXM version is an amusing insight into the bands personality IMO as well :)
The song "Ronnie and Neil" by Drive-by Truckers does a good job of covering the relationship between these songs and the song writers. "Ronnie and Neil" was written by Patterson Hood the son of David Hood who was one of the Swampers name checked in Sweet Home Alabama. The Swampers were the Muscle Shoals rhythm section the Atlantic records often used on their soul records by artists like Aretha Franklin and Wilson Pickett.
Lynyrd Skynyrd’s retort is a huge factor in deciding to not be a fan of theirs. Hate is taught and ignorance (especially the willful variety) is not an excuse.
There was absolutely no feud between the 2. It's been documented by both for years now. Some people just can't interpret lyrics correctly. If your "feuding" with neil young, why you rockin a rust in steel t shirt on your album cover
I just watched both your Lynyrd Skynyrd videos and this one. I was born and raised in Lynchburg, Tennessee and I'm a proud southerner who flies the confederate flag. I've got to be honest with you, I agree with pretty much everything you've said in these three videos. I think the main reason that Skynyrd had a problem with this Neil Young song was that it felt like it was portraying all southerners as racist, which obviously isn't the case. But growing up in the south I've seen lots of this "unintentional" racism. Where people don't think they're being racist, that's just the way they were raised. I think you two are a beautiful couple and I hope the best for you.
Niel has probably lived in the U.S longer than you two have been on the planet and has dual citizenship. He's well read and is entitled to his view on injustice regardless of who is on the receiving end of the oppression he speaks against. If he sees hypocrisy ("Don't forget what your good book said") he's not long in addressing it and is not attempting to be a spokesman for either side.
Actually it was two songs by Neil Young that Lynyrd Skynyrd was responding to with Sweet Home Alabama. Southern Man was recorded on After the Gold Rush in 1970. In 1972 Neil released the Harvest album with the song Alabama which was even more critical of the South's Jim Crow laws. I don't think Ronnie Van Zant and Lynyrd Skynyrd were in favor of what was going on in the South, but their song might make you think otherwise.
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Once again your review would have benefitted from some research ahead of time. Your social commentary is worthwhile on its own but the assumptions you’ve made about Skynyrd are off base.
Neil wrote another song Titled Alabama, and as far as how popular the song is, up here in Canada it plays everyday on classic rock stations, sweet home doesn't play nearly as much.
Neil was a very important artist in the time of the civil rights movement, along with cats like Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell etc... and don't forget that Canada was the end of the underground railroad
I feel Sweet Home Alabama is a big hit becaue of the musicianship. It is a huge success globally where people are not aware much about American politics.
Keep in mind that neil is canadian. Born in Toronto. He was part of Crosby stills Nash and young. But went solo then he really exploded. He's very rock/ folk very heavy writing. Canada played a part in regards to the underground railroad to get slaves out of the USA to Canada. . We have our horrible history too unfortunately.
@@VinAndSori I hear you vin and I would not like a person from another country doing a song like that or criticizing us as well. We have had our horrific history with indigenous pple plus is asian imigrants that were forced to build our cross country railroad. Many died along the way. No one country or pple can say they are better that any one else. Once you star digging we all are guilty. .
In 1960 when I was 8 , my family drove from upstate new york to orlando fl. It was the first time I saw the shacks along the road. This was before rt 95 was complete , maybe rt 17 in ga. Much later as an adult in business around 1995 . We had some military contracts near savannah. From there, I went cross country to Tallahassee Fl . I saw the same shacks next to white mansions just different addresses.
My New York survival mode kicked in and I kept driving. Will it ever change , I just do not know.
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Neil Young is from Canada, but he has lived in Cali forever. He tends to write songs about oppressed people.
Neil Young, in his 2012 memoir," Waging Heavy Peace", wrote this about his song "Southern Man", "I don't like my words when I listen to it today. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, too easy to misconstrue.
Extended quote: "Alabama richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don’t like my words when I listen to it today. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, too easy to misconstrue."
And: "I’d rather play ‘Sweet Home Alabama’ than ‘Southern Man’ anytime"
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I think Neil Young was trying to say that he's like all the rest of us. We grow, we learn, we evolve into better human being.
@White Devil Yeah he definitely didn't say he was embarrassed. Like he's always done, he spoke what was on his mind. Whether you agree with that is up to you. He regretted the way he put it.
That's absolutely stupid. The "south" is still to be Accused.
Neil Young is one of the top 3 greatest song writers of all time, for my money.
And yet Vin thinks he could have written better. Amazing. Vin's ego is off the chain, he needs to wind it in and read some more.
@@BongEyedBastard and then compared it to a Nicki Minaj diss track... *cringe*
Yep Neil has 1180 plus, copyrighted songs.
Sori you're 100% wrong, WOW please research both songs before you make such a blatant comment.! It really upsets me when people whom I thought were smarter than this make such ignorant comments...........IF you would've researched this song and SHA you would understand that its not racist at all, and VIN seriously stating that this song is relatively UNKNOWN?????????????? OMGOSH EDIT: this album has sold over 6 million albums.......
The meaning of some of the lyrics in Sweet Home Alabama are just the opposite of what you think. It's celebrating putting the racism and segregation behind and moving forward as a southerner from Alabama.. 1974 when the song came out, Wallace won re-election on renouncing racism and segregation, Watergate scandal was left behind. Does your conscience bother you? As the lyrics go, move past the past.
Exactly, Vin needs to learn before talking shit.
This Song is far from relatively unknown this is a huge song....There is a second song "Alabama" by Neil Young
exactly... and probably the song Skynyrd was referring to...who knows...rock music can be very interpretive
I've watched quite a few of their vids and I have to say without being offensive, they are pretty clueless. God bless Ameria! Lol
@@jaquespasquinel8711 he was referring to Southern Man. But they both liked eachothers songs.
I really don’t like it at all. He needs to go stand up for the Natives of Canada. Clean up your own yard Neil Young.
@@sissy9393He has. Musically and Physically. Don’t make ignorant comments if you don’t know anything about him 🤣
Since you mentioned Neil Young who happens to be a badass. How about Rockin In The Free World? Great song as well.
Andrew Brorherton. Yes, yes, yes, - musically it is more akin to what they would usually review, and lyrically as true now as when it was written (maybe more so).
So they can misinterpret that song too? SMH
Cιʂ Iɳ Sure shaking my head
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Old Neil also did a song just called Alabama. He's also from Canada. Sometimes outsiders can be more insightful than insiders.
Neil Young's "Southern Man" is hardly "unknown"
Shawn Loeffler it is relatively unknown as he said compared to Sweet Home Alabama. One is known by everyone one is known by certain music fans.
Is that ridiculous
Cmon man...not everyone loves Neil like us. Compared to Sweet Home Alabama, this song is completely unknown. EVERYONE knows Sweet Home Alabama.
...neil young is..canadian
Timothy McCann, I’m a little late getting in on this but this song was just as popular as SHA. There is no one my age that hasn’t heard this song and most of us still know the lyrics. They were both equally popular IMO. They are two different genres, LS is southern rock and NY is folk rock. Folk rock and protest type of music was very popular back then.
Don't forget the song 'Alabama' Neil Young made in 1972.
no offence to the reveiwers but I think this song Alabama your referring to is what Skynyrd was taking a shot at...
@@jaquespasquinel8711 I believe it was both songs because both came across as pretty accusatory towards those of us that live in the South and Ronnie and Lynyrd Skynyrd was having none of that having band members born and raised in the south
The guys in Skynyrd we’re friends with Neil Young. There is a famous Skynyrd performance where Ronnie Van Zandt is wearing a Neil Young shirt. Please check out The Ballad Of Curtis Loew by Skynyrd. It paints a broader picture of Skynyrd’s view on race.
And Neil performed Sweet Home Alabama many times himself
Neil wrote Powderfinger for Lynyrd Skynyrd but then the plane crash happened.
Curtis loew you are the finest picker to ever play the blues
This song is not relatively unknown! It plays every 5 minutes on classic rock radio! Neil Young is known as one of the greatest song writers ever! You guys are in Maine, how do you not hear Neil Young everywhere you go?
Spot on. Anyone who says Southern Man is an unknown song is just displaying their ignorance.
They said this comparing it to Sweet Home Alabama, and this is true! Sweet HA is a big hit, Southern Man is not, simple.
I first heard Southern Man on the Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young album 4 Way Street. It is on the second lp performed with electric guitars. The first lp was all acoustic.
At that time Protest Songs were very popular.
Yup but they redid this review and original said Neil wasn't important because he was Canadian!!! Yet 2 years later you loved Ohio
It's not fair for you to say this is "SJW-ish" when this was released during a completely different time period where this was controversial. It's easy to look from a modern lens and say, "Oh, this isn't brave, people talk about this all of the time now," when the discourse is different now. If this song were released today, I'd completely agree that this is self-affirming garbage, but context is important when looking at any piece of art.
Wow considering what is happening in june of 2020 this comment really did NOT hold up.
Agreed this was an embarrassing take
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Nicolas Deep right on! These kids a product of the educational system that doesn't teach " history" anymore, they get some facts but mostly commentary ....also the delicate " don't offend me, snow flake mentality". Yeah, not a channel I can get into, man.
@@negf22 You think you were taught real history? 😂😂😂😂😂
You were taught the MYTH of America. And apparently swallowed every drop. We've never taught history in this country. We've only ever taught an American folktale that reinforces the status quo and discourages critical thinking. One that invariably places the descendants of colonizers above the descendants of natives and slaves. One that encourages wealth consolidation and unquestioning loyalty. "Swear fealty to those who pick your pockets." That's not history, that's propaganda.
You do realize that Skynyrd supported the most liberal Presidential candidate of that era in Jimmy Carter, right? I don't think you got the message of Sweet Home Alabama. Ronnie was condemning both Wallace and Neil Young painting all Southerners with a broad brush.
Neil Young released his 40th solo album "Peace Trail," in 2016. Young returned to his folk roots, taking on a role as musical storyteller as he raises his voice for the environment and the rights of indigenous people.
I've always loved Neil Young. I hope that you will do more of him in the future.
Actually it is a pretty popular song ..but I’m 58 sooo I guess for my age group that listened to rock music
Lynyrd Skynyrd's Sweet Home Alabama was a reply to Neil Young that not all Southerners are portrayed in Neil Young's song Southern Man. And the Confederate flag that you see in their videos in the 70's were just to represent the South and before the flag became a racist symbol. Ronnie Van Zant was not a racist. He was from Northern Florida. Just to clarify, Lynyrd Skynyrd were "booing" Governor George Wallace. Look at the lyrics.
They say: "In Birmingham They Love The Governor...Boo Boo Boo"
Also, FYI, Skynyrd and Neil Young were actually friends.
That is true, doesn't Van Zant wear a Neil Young shirt on a cover?
After everything you said then you call Neil Young a sjw? And go back to Canada? This could be one of the most ignorant reviews I have ever listened to.
Thank you.
Nope. If it's based on ignorance, then this is unbelievable ignorance 😒
Absolutely. He's saying that you can't get involved in global injustice because "America". I guess we can't criticize any other country's actions then. So if we want to talk about the abuse of women in a lot of Middle Eastern countries, NOPE, because we weren't born there. Although I'm sure he's ranted, and ranted, about his opinions of other countries.
He should do the channel a favor and delete this video. I unsubscribed. I don't need this trashy nationalistic bullshit popping up on my radar.
Neil was a Canadian and was responding mostly to what he observed by touring the South. Actually I believe that the song Alabama that was on Neil's Harvest album, along with Southern Man were the inspiration.
The anger in his guitar, especially when he slams that note....is palpable. Neil really can get anger out. Ohio is same.
This song is angry.
Okay, so Young's song is a blanket statement against all southern men as if everyone in the south is for racism and like that. But Skynyrd is saying they're not ashamed to love where they're from despite the connotation. It's like today, we're not going to be ashamed of being white because liberals want us to feel that 'white guilt'. I'm not ashamed to be a white man, nor do I feel white guilt. I'm proud of where I came from. Just because you're southern doesn't mean you're holding the whip. That's what Skynyrd is saying to me. I live in Michigan, my family fought for the north, I'm of Irish heritage, so I know we didn't own any slaves. But I grew up in the Houston area. Everyone I knew down there had strong southern heritage, waved the confederate flag, but they weren't racist. It wasn't a symbol of racism for them.
Exactly, well stated.
Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!"
Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives?
Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on.
Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war}
Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical.
As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}.
Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}.
Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents?
And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}?
Pretty sure that should be taken as whatever Southern Man is partaking in the actions he described in the song.
Not racism, but a symbol of southern pride. Sadly that's so misunderstood today
I think that's what Neil came to regret. He has said in interviews he regrets the blanket statement.
People used to use religion to justify their racism. So it would be ok to discriminate and such and even to have slaves.
What you said about slavery is correct. It was not just in the south and most of the shipping industry to bring slaves over was in the north. It was more prevalent in the south because they needed farm labor.
Of the two songs, I vastly prefer Southern Man. But Skynyrd loved and respected Neil Young.
HAHA, Neil Young and "Southern Man" are NOT "relatively unknown", Wow Vin, you're just talking out of your ass again. I understand you guys wanting to do and honest reaction to a song, but sometimes, a little research would do you some good. You totally missed the mark with SHA and have done it again with Southern Man.
Southern Man is the better song IMO, lyrics aside. The bass work is super on point in this track and I love Neil Young's voice!
Skynyrd is better
young's voice sounds weak
@@billrobertjoe never
@@billrobertjoe
I like Skynyrd, but they're not in the same category as Neil. Not even close.
Neil has 1180 copyrighted songs and counting. Neil networth $200,000,000.
Skynyrd networth $75,000,000
Neil, solo artist. Skynyrd 8 piece band.
@@artvallejos1460 success=quality, most stupid mindset ever
Civil Rights Act of 1960
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Fair Housing Act of 1968
Civil Rights Act of 1968
Neil Young calls every man, woman and child in the entire southern United States "racists" 1970
Skynyrd gives Young the middle finger in a lyric, defending the beauty of the land and the hospitality of the people (which isn't even close to saying that slavery is okay, or that folks of any color are superior or inferior to anyone else) 1974
45 years later folks all over still can't pull their cabezas from their culos and just admit Skynyrd was awesome, the song is great, and your keyboard squabbling will never change those facts. 2019
You guys are wrong about Sweet Home Alabama.
They just arent listening.
The swipe at Neal Young by Lynyrd Skynyrd was all in good fun.
You guys were better when Vin didn't constantly talk out of his ass and allowed Sori to have her own opinions.
I'm Canadian and did not take offense to your view on Neil Young talking shit, I will say that he did in fact, a couple of years ago, show his support for the indigenous people and wrote a protest song about the pipeline called Indian Givers. In that song he touches on how awful they have been treated historically and present day.
Ok I co-sign that!!
I'm a Canadian Too and Neil Young is a brainwashed, useful idiot shill hypocrite.
Anyways;
Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!"
Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives?
Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on.
Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war}
Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical.
As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}.
Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}.
Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents?
And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}?
I agree abbie I'm a canuck as well
Well said Will!
The reason they were making Alabama out to be such a great place is they were saying the south isn't ALL horrible and horrible sights like Neil was saying. Don't judge the entire south by the actions of the racists because not all southerners are racist. Blanket assumptions are not ok ever, that is all the Skynyrd song was saying. It's really not that complex. - Lisa
Disclaimer: this is my opinion, not something that is attacking people. I am just expressing my thoughts as is perfectly permissible by the 1st amendment to the Constitution, and is a right given by my Creator. If you have a problem with it, express your opinion so others can see it, rather than attacking mine. Be mature, and civil in your reply, and we'll be just fine. If you see anything attacking in my comment, PLEASE tell me in a reasonable manner, and I will look in to it and change accordingly. It is not my goal to cause anger.
While I am not saying that the things that went on then were not wrong, they most certainly were, I do think it is not right for black people who weren't ever slaves, or proponents of such people, to hold people who happen to live in a certain area accountable or blame them for things they themselves didn't do. That is the entire reason why we used to have prisons for those who couldn't pay taxes and would keep them there till they payed the taxes, and prisons where if the father died in prison because of a life sentence, the children would serve the sentence until it was up. The reason you don't hear about those is because they are ridiculous, and the mentality this song shows is along the same lines of thinking as those prisons were. Once again, everything that went on back then in relation to slavery was abhorrent, and terrible, but it shouldn't be the responsibility of the generations following to fix or "repay" the issues of the past generations.
I hear you. I’m not mad at you for having a differing opinion. Much love to you my guy!
@@VinAndSori and to you both as well.
I couldn't have said it any better.
Firstly, what is with this race baiting, lazy click-baity title "Interracial Couple Reacts To LYNYRD SKYNYRD Sweet Home Alabama!!"
Why even use that as a tile, so Vn can play the victim of something that never happened to him[or any other black person in America alive today or for the lats few generations- most if not all those who did suffer during the era are dead and gone)? The band is not racists, there is nothing racist about the song. What gives?
Secondly. If you're gonna focus on only ONE{bad} aspect of the culture that the confederate flag was part of for a time- and thus declare the flag "evil", you have to do the same with every other flag and every other symbol{including religious ones; including the cross/etc}. Pretty much every flag has been used during times which the culture or country thereof was doing some bad things{and some good}. The stars and stripes must be "evil" then because under it's cover America dropped the a-bomb/H-bombs on Hiroshima and nagasaki, did the CIA's mk-ultra and agent orange, invaded Iraq under Dubya, list goes on. You have to demonize it them too. You also would have to demonize the flags of say south Africa because currently horrible things are being done In racist attitudes against the Boards{white/Danish descended farmers whop feed the people; look up Lauren Southerns new documentary "farmlands" on youtube ad watch it and also look up/watch some of Stefan Molyneux's vides on yuotube dealing with this topic}. You have to call their flag "evil" then. You also have to call Canadas maple leaf flag 'evil" because under it in the past aboriginals had children taken from them and forced into abusive residential schools{not to mention demonize the Christian cross as "evil" because it was Christian churches/sects that did the evils}. You have to call every aboriginal tribes symbols or flags 'evil" because in the past the various tribes did horrible shit to each other. You have to call Russias flags and symbols 'evi;" because of Stalinist commie USSR's body count{50 millionish}- same with Chinas flags and symbols because of Maos communist mass murdering and the current communist govts mistreatment of it's people. You have to call Britians flag/sym,bols "evil" because of the current Orwellian climate there and because of it's being slaves to monarchy for centuries and Britains past crimes. You have to call the Christian cross symbol "evil" because of the many crimes commited under this symbol over the last 1700 years until recently{not so much anymore admittedly} , the same with Israels flag and jewish symbols, same with arab and muslim religion and countries flags and symbols. List goes on ad on.
Not to mention the stars and stripes- of the North U.S. because during slavery of blacks period, both the north and south engaged in slavery under their flags and symbols{however it must be noted that only a couple percent of very wealthy land owners, not even all of them, let alone the average whites therein; owned slaves or promoted and wanted it; most whites rejected ad condemned slavery and racism in both the north and south; why do you think when the war/revolution happened it was over fairly quickly and freedom for the slaves won? Because most white people in the north-under stars and stripes and the south- under the confederate flag, opposed slavery and fought and lost their lives to win that war}
Or else you are being double standarded and hypocritical.
As to the confederate flag and the south particularly{and also Lynard Skynards song here; in which all they are doing is showing love for their home, family and community and state- alabama- and the people thereof; what's so wrong about that?}.
Newsflash: the confederacy existed and their flag/symbol symbolized, more than slavery{which only a small number of wealthy land owners in the south wanted to keep- btw so did a small number of wealthy land-owners in the north} - it represented several different things and causes of the people of the southern states; part of the reason why they rebelled against the north was partly due to the norths hypocrisy is scapegoating only them for slavery{and all of them- which is still happening today quite unfairly and a lot of northern states and federal propaganda pushed through Hollywood, academe, Hollywood, establishment comedians and so on is bigotry against the people of southern states- still aleblling them all racist monsters and ignorant hillbillies,etc}, and aklso moreso because the south did not want globalist elites controlled federal govts totalitarian rule to rule over them and their independent states, they opposed the feds absurd extremer taxes, and many other things; slavery was such a small part of it all that the confederate flag{and southern pride} is and was always about much more, it was about the aforementioned independence causes I just talked about. Slavery was such a tiny component of it, and most southerners who back then and today love their flag and ove their people and their states were and are anti-slavery and anti-racism. Hell, even General Robert E Lee{despite the disinformation history revisionism propaganda by the globalist controlled feds and neo-Marxist influenced north} was against slavery. he owned some slaves, only because he had inherited them, andhe actually wanted them to be free from slavery. His reasons for fighting the north were not about keeping slavery, it was about the other reasons/causes I mentioned{he had some racist views about blacks, but he did not hate them, he basically did the same thing as the soft bigotry of low expectations left does today- infantilized them}.
Regardless of Lee. Fact is that all flags have been used during times when all countries and cultures have done some evil shit in history{same with all symbols of all religions}, why scapegoat only the confederate flag as 'evil", overcous on the slavery aspects and ignore the majority of reasons why the flag exists and majority of what it represented and represents?
And more importantly here, why use that race baiting, playing the victim, intellectually and morally lazy clickbaity title in reference to this band and this son{when the band is not racist and the song is not racist}?
BTW, there are blacks in Southern States who are not offended by the flag, who are proud to be southerners and who realize everything I just pointed out and who like the flag and even fly/use it
I pray there will be a day where there is no more Bigotry. God Bless!
You guys are so thoughtful and analytical with your interpretations, you almost always make me see things from a new perspective and I love it! And I think you have an interesting take on this song and it may be valid in a vacuum, however I believe the foundation of your argument (that he is Canadian and should not weigh in on the matter) is incorrect for a few reasons: 1: Artists, Neil Young in particular don't sit down and say "I'm going to write a song today, hmm what subject should I write about?" it almost always hits them in a wave of inspiration brought on by something they hear, see or read about. Maybe he was talking to someone who had in-depth knowledge or firsthand experience of racism in the south and that just sent his mind into a whirlwind of emotions and ideas. Maybe while on tour in the late 60s, when he wrote the song, he actually saw injustice in the south. 2: You can't be sure what perspective he is writing and singing from, who knows where the artists mind goes once they're inspired by a thought. Maybe his mind takes him to the 1800s and he's visualizing these things through the eyes of a slave, maybe he's looking at it from the daughter of the plantation owner, Lilly Belle who is horrified by it. He mentions the bible, maybe he is looking through a biblical lens. He wrote a song called Revolution Blues on the "On the Beach" album about Charles Manson and actually sings it from Manson's perspective, it's an interesting song and quite chilling actually (especially because he and many other musicians from Laurel Canyon knew Manson}. 3 Probably most relevant of all is he wrote this whole album as a soundtrack for a movie. Dean Stockwell and Dennis Hopper gave him a screenplay to read, and he was so inspired by it he asked if he could write the soundtrack. The movie never got made and the screenplay was lost but it's impossible to know what part of the movie script inspired this song or what the context was within the movie. I wish the movie (After the Goldrush) would have gotten made, I think it would be interesting to see, if for no other reason than to see how this album relates to it. Once again, I love your videos and the different ways you make me think about things. Keep up the great work.
"Relatively unknown"? That would be an untrue in every sense. This song was very popular. And this country also prospered greatly off of the backs of the Irish and Italians too. Your whole interpretation of this scenario is whacked.
I agree with you the native americans paid a whole lot bigger price then the blacks.
1972: Neil Young’s Alabama
“What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union
To help you along
What's going wrong?”
1973: Lynyrd Skynrd’s Sweet Home Alabama
“Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard ol’ Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow”
The song Southern Man is relatively unknown??? Like like uh what?
Sweet home Alabamas point is just because some people in the south are evil dont mean we all are. We should be able to be proud of the south at the same time separating ourselves from those who are racist. It is just as Racist to assume all southern folk are racist... the point Skynyrd was trying to make to Neil.
Their problem with what Young said had to do with how he was lumping all southern people together. He was just hating on southern people like everyone else does. That's why southern people like to use the flag in the first place. It's a fuck you to people who shit on the south. Southern people get really defensive because that is their home and their people.
It's also worth noting that the singer for Lynyrd Skynyrd idolized Muhammad Ali. If you were racist that probably wouldn't be your idol.
Also, they didn't really hate each other. It was more of a disagreement. Believe it or not, Young sang Sweet Home Alabama as a tribute to them at one point.
A very powerful song, although Ronnie Van Zant and the other members of the band had a friendly relationship with Neil Young. Skynyrd's reference to Young, in "Sweet Home Alabama" was done in jest.
Neil young has covered the the treatment of those indigenous to Canada. He has done a lot for social awareness of many people that have been wrongfully oppressed and massacred. I don't want to hear you talk shit about Nazi Germany, because you are not German. To say atrocities are not allowed to be spoken out against by people in countries where they did not happen, is ridiculous.
I've always loved how outspoken he and the guys from Crosby, Stills, and Nash have been. Always speaking out.
Yeah fantastic music by their Politics suck!!!
Always thought Alabama by Neil Young was what caused The Sweet Home Alabama come back.Listen too it please.
This song was right in the middle of the civil Rights movement. I was in the army when this came out. It was true that the guys from the south in my platoon were leaning towards racist! I was from San Diego and it seemed so out of touch to me. And no, California never had slaves! I was All for making the south pay! But I didn't feel I should pay.
the way I see it, neil is painting all of the south with the same brush, and combined with the song alabama, skynyrd had no choice but to respond to defend the south.
Vin maybe I misunderstood your position, but it seems you think all the whites in the south had slaves... you couldn't be more wrong, only the wealthy did, as with the north.
it's dishonest to claim the entire south is guilty.
the three songs are obviously referencing Alabama's stance on segregation, and as I said before, you can't judge it based on todays standard... at the time many people even in the north had a difficult time doing away with segregation. it was a different time.
If you still think Lynyrd Skynyrd was racist, I urge you to listen to "the ballad of curtis lowe"
and not even all the wealthy did; in both the south and north only a tiny, single digit, couple percentage of wealthy landowners did. the issue is blown WAAAY out of proportion by progrssives and globalists to scapegoat and demonize any and all whites and especially any and all whites from the southern u.s. it's absurd; while they ignore that every race and culture in human history have done these same and other crimes and wrongs to each other/others for aeons, andit was whites in the west that were ther first to officialy outlaw slavery and racism and create a comprehensive philosophy and system of laws against it
@@Iconoclastithon I agree with alot of that man, it's absurd to tie the battle flag to slavery, the only racist use of the flag was by racist group later, never by the confederate states.
Krust bag I think many are taking this thing way too literally. He was 25 yrs old when he wrote this song. Both songs are awesome classics, enjoy.
Sweet Home Alabama was written in respons to Southern Man and a song called Alabama. Neil Young is one of the best songwriters ever. The godfather of grunge 😉 check out Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)
Sorry to see you guys are so wrong on this one..
Ronnie Van Zandt loved Neil Young and his music, his response to Neil's Southern Man lyrics was to point out that not all southern men are racist, there are good and bad in the North and South, that's why Ronnie referenced you have Watergate and we have Wallace, so focus on your own problems instead of painting the south with one broad brush. We have good people here too.
this is getting out of hand guys. skynyrd are proud southerners. they are not racist. they respect southern values. southern values do no equal racism or hate or anything like that. all southern metal bands have and sing about same kind of thing. down, corrosion of conformity, pantera, eyehategod, etc etc etc.
Unfortunately,being proud of your heritage if you're white,is now considered being racist,like these 2 brainwashed fools.
People like to think that Sweet Home Alabama is in response to this song...its actually in response to the Neil Young song "Alabama". Or both.
According to Neil Young himself it was in response to "Alabama".
The Confederate Flag that everybody is calling a racist flag, is actually the Battle Flag. If a flag is a racist flag, then the American Flag is racist. ALL SLAVES (all races) was brought here under the American Flag. Did you know that the Irish slave was considered less of human than a Black was? The Irish slave was cheaper than a Black slave. The Irish slave owners didn't care about their slaves because they was a "dime a dozen". Slavery wasn't brought into the Civil war until the middle of the war when Abe Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation (executive order). The Proclamation applied only to slaves in Confederate-held lands; it did not apply to those in the four slave states that were not in rebellion (Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and Missouri), nor to Tennessee (occupied by Union troops since 1862) and lower Louisiana (also under occupation), and specifically excluded those counties of Virginia soon to form the state of West Virginia. Also specifically excluded were some regions already controlled by the Union army. The Union got to keep their slaves. The initial cause for the war was tariffs and States rights. The South was bringing in most of the money that the U.S. was running on and most of that money went to the North and the South was getting the shaft. The war started when things was getting so hot that Abe Lincoln finally egged the South into firing the first shot at Fort Sumter in 1861. Two years later (1863) the Emancipation Proclamation two years after that (1865), the end of the war.
Bruce Dickenson - King in crimson from The Chemical Wedding album. It is so unbelievably heavy. They used bass strings on the guitars to make it sound thicker.
You had to research the Neil Young song??? Where have you been?
Northern man needs to remember that the North kept slaves longer than the South after the Proclamation.
Slavery was ended in the British Empire in 1833. So it was ended in the north in 1833. The North being Canada.
Showing your ass much... This whole discussion is in regards to both songs. In such a case, the north would be the northern USA to which I am referring.
I was just pointing out that Slavery was ended in Canada by a act of legislation not by war. Also Canada won its independence by legislation not by war. Who do you think is the more civilized country.
@@locusmortis rebel what? Lol we have far less problems than the USA. We don't start wars with other countries over oil. We are a peace keeping country not like how the USA still. Continues to take whatever it wants from other nations and will slaughter just for what they want. Really not much has changes since colonialism of the USA. They took what they wanted and slaughtered the people that were there before them. Please don't even try and to compare the USA and Canada. Whole different ball game of countries and people.
@@locusmortis we also solve our problems like intelligent people not with weapons and no brains 😂
also, Southern Man, has been a Neil Young classic since After the Gold Rush.
My family came from Ukraine and were starved by a government imposed famine which went on for years...they saw canabalism and killed to eat. They saw people dig up dead bodies and cook them. It ruined them, scared their souls and they lost everything and so many of their loved ones died. It is a sorrowful past. This hurts me ( I was born in the US) and it only went on for a few decades....slavery in the USA went on for generations. Sorrow!!!!
Neil Young is very well known. He was in Buffalo Springfield, who had a big hit called, "For What it's Worth." A really big Vietnam protest song. He was in Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. He toured on the same bill as Pearl Jam and went on stage last, after them. I saw him on that tour.
He has also been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice. Once solo and once with Buffalo Springfield.
Slavery has been around since the beginning of humanity.one tribe has raided another tribe raped and pillaged. Taking of slaves has been the norm since the building of the pyramids in Egypt which is in Africa.sad but true slaves still exists in the world today
Well, we know now the pyramids weren't actually built by slaves.
what if your decendant is the one chopping off peoples limbs in the ivory coast? Then shouldn't you pay repairations for blood diamonds?
Southern man kicks the shit out of sweet home Alabama. Keep your head is kind of like you better check yourself
This song is about Lillie Belle Allen and her father who was a preacher. Lillie was African American and ambushed during the race riots in York, PA in 1969. 🎶 Lily Belle your hair is golden brown ... 🎶. You can search the whole story on line.
"Relatively unknown" song mainly because Neil Young is Canadian. Canada's hands weren't completely clean, heck the First Nations people themselves enslaved members of rival tribes long before Europeans arrived in 1604. Among some Pacific Northwest tribes about a quarter of the population were slaves. In 1628 the first recorded black slave in Canada was brought by a British convoy to New France. In 1759, there were approximately 4000 slaves, of which 2,472 were aboriginal people, and 1,132 blacks. Slavery in Canada was abolished in 1833. Neil Young began his first band in the mid 1960s and like many performers on both sides of the border, he wrote about anti-racism and anti-violence among other social injustices. Today, all those bands might be painted as "social justice warriors", which has become a slur of sorts lately, but that was not how they were perceived at that time.They were a voice for the downtrodden and marginalized parts of society.
You continue to mention Canada and slaves together.
There was no Canada then.
Canada was formed in 1867. Before that it was a British Colony.
Get your facts straight.
And Black's kept slaves...in fact some kept Indians as slaves
Released in 1970 and you're only hearing it now? Have you been stranded on a desert island? You know so little about American music.
I believe it was the song ALABAMA.
Alabama lyrics by Neil Young....
[Verse 1]
Oh, Alabama
The devil fools
With the best laid plan
Swing low, Alabama
You got the spare change
You got to feel strange
And now, the moment
Is all that it meant
[Chorus]
Alabama
You got the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track
[Verse 2]
Oh, Alabama
Banjos playing through the broken glass
Windows, down in Alabama
See the old folks
Tied in white robes
Hear the banjo
Don't it take you down home?
[Solo]
Alabama
You got the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back
Your Cadillac
Has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track
[Verse 3]
Oh, Alabama
Can I see you and shake your hand?
Make friends down in Alabama
I'm from a new land
I come to you and see all this ruin
What are you doing, Alabama?
You got the rest of the Union
To help you along
What's going wrong?
FeaturingThe Stray Gators
Produced ByNeil Young & Elliot Mazer
Written ByNeil Young
Release DateFebruary 1, 1972
A.en brother. I've always thought that too.
Yeah we know how it goes STOP
The underground railroad ended in Canada. Neil Young has done a lot for first nations including songs about them. Also Neil Young recently got his US Citizenship and is now duel citizen.
Give Alabama (Neil Young) a listen. Neil Young is the greatest living North American songwriter.
And he's quite old now.
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Untofrunatelly, both of you got it all wrong (Sori did get the Boo! Boo! Boo! in the first song but you both didnt get the Irony of the lyrics). Musically, i like "southern man" a lot more, but lyrically, Young was wrong generalizing and THATS why the song remained "relatively unknown". Even if you cant get the lyrics of Sweet home Alabama, you should listen to "The Ballad of Curtis Loew" and then you will at least agree that a man that loves burning crosses and slavery cant have a black man as his idol at the same time.. Last but not least, Van Zant used to wear a t-shirt of Neil Young in many of his concerts and Neil Young paid tribute in 1977 singing Sweet home alabama. You know why? they were friends... The song was not the answer for Southern Man only but also for the Neil Young's song "Alabama" (1972 so it took a little more than 1 year and not 4 to answer to both songs) and the exact words of Van Zant was "We thought Neil was shooting all the ducks in order to kill one or two" and he was actually right.. In 2012 Young said "My own song 'Alabama' richly *deserved* the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don't like my words when I listen to it. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, and too easy to misconstrue". Also in 1975 Van Zant said "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor." and that "where the governor's true" at the end was Irony. Better do some research next time before you deside to escalate something that people are pointing is wrong..
Stathis s. That was such a convoluted reaction. What better person to write about what he sees than an outsider not blinded by “patriotism”? All one had to do was take a ride through the segregated south in 1968 to see how F’ed up it all was, especially Alabama. A songwriter has a few lines to convey his feelings or message and I think he hit it hard and accurately....
Harsh ? Yes
Accurate? Yes
Amazing. Just shows the relevance of Neil Young and his song writing that this topic is getting long, well thought out comments almost 2 yrs later. I personally don't agree with Vin on really any of his points but it is a complex, emotional topic and I get this is not an academic or debate setting. In the end, I think Sori's honest, initial reaction spoke volumes about this song, particularly at 4:26 when she read/heard the verse about miscegenation and grabs Vin's arm. Subtle but intense moment. And its still a powerful and engaging song without offending this Southern Man.
Southern Man was not unknown. This song was huge among rockers in the 70s. Neil Young is an icon and was in two huge groups Buffalo Springfield and Crosby Stills Nash and Young.Also must note Neil Young was Canadian not from the North of the USA
He was in crosby stills and nash and david crosby said "neil is nothing like people think the way he treated others was terrible and i was glad to get away from him,"
Regardless of how these songs are interpreted by everyone, what a great era to be in the middle of this kind of music. Music is meant to not only inspired by the notes and instruments but by the thoughts expressed in the lyrics. You don’t see that anymore.
Actually, you folks should also listen to "Alabama" by Neil Young which is in context, the companion piece to this song. It uses the metaphor of Alabama being a big luxury car in the way of progress. Much more powerful song.
Another point of reference w/ regard to Sori mentioning "why Alabama?", is that Neil Young not only had the Southern Man tune, but he had another song called "Alabama", which also had similar references to which the song Sweet Home Alabama may have also been countering in it lyrics.
Sori gets it. She pointed out your hypocrisy, Vin, when it comes to commenting on other countries or groups woes. You are not German, Middle Eastern, Russian etc, "How dare you" comment on their past evils. LOL I think when artists create their music they expect people to be a little more discerning and not jump to the conclusion he is talking about all people, just the people that hold the bad beliefs. As to Neil Young being a SJW. Yes he is and it is not a bad thing. I find it very annoying when generally good or neutral terms are used pejoratively. What is wrong with social justice? I do get what you mean about SJW's coming to Sori's defense, as if she needs defending. LOL Social justice can be taken too far but lets not put everyone into the "bad" SJW camp.
Keep up the great work. Definitely the best music reaction channel on UA-cam.
Neil young also did a song called Alabama in 1972
Putting the racial stuff aside, you guys should react to some more Lynyrd Skynyrd. They have so many amazing songs that don’t have the same kind of controversy that Sweet Home Alabama has. Some great songs to check out are “Simple Man”, “Tuesday’s Gone”, “The Ballad of Curtis Loew”, “On The Hunt”, and “That Smell”.
nah they need to hear the deep cuts like "things goin' on", "mr. banker", and "four walls of raiford"
skynyrd were a lot more politically deep than people give them credit for
Brings to mind Molly Hatchet - Gator Country. When Southern Rock were subtle battling each other through music.
That Elliott win yesterday was gnarly
Good Ol' USA Hell yeah bro!
I think it was more Alabama rather than Southern Man that caused the response from Skynyrd
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So I'm curious if you all would see Ghost's Ghuleh/Zombie Queen as sticking to their standard formula or standing out a bit...for entertainment purposes the live SiriusXM version is an amusing insight into the bands personality IMO as well :)
He had another song specifically called "Alabama". People forget that. It was that song more than this one that did it.
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Neil Young has another song called Alabama, which I believe is what SHA was in retaliation to
The song "Ronnie and Neil" by Drive-by Truckers does a good job of covering the relationship between these songs and the song writers. "Ronnie and Neil" was written by Patterson Hood the son of David Hood who was one of the Swampers name checked in Sweet Home Alabama. The Swampers were the Muscle Shoals rhythm section the Atlantic records often used on their soul records by artists like Aretha Franklin and Wilson Pickett.
Lynyrd Skynyrd’s retort is a huge factor in deciding to not be a fan of theirs. Hate is taught and ignorance (especially the willful variety) is not an excuse.
There was absolutely no feud between the 2. It's been documented by both for years now. Some people just can't interpret lyrics correctly. If your "feuding" with neil young, why you rockin a rust in steel t shirt on your album cover
I just watched both your Lynyrd Skynyrd videos and this one. I was born and raised in Lynchburg, Tennessee and I'm a proud southerner who flies the confederate flag. I've got to be honest with you, I agree with pretty much everything you've said in these three videos. I think the main reason that Skynyrd had a problem with this Neil Young song was that it felt like it was portraying all southerners as racist, which obviously isn't the case. But growing up in the south I've seen lots of this "unintentional" racism. Where people don't think they're being racist, that's just the way they were raised. I think you two are a beautiful couple and I hope the best for you.
Niel has probably lived in the U.S longer than you two have been on the planet and has dual citizenship. He's well read and is entitled to his view on injustice regardless of who is on the receiving end of the oppression he speaks against. If he sees hypocrisy ("Don't forget what your good book said") he's not long in addressing it and is not attempting to be a spokesman for either side.
The song your trying to guess is probably The South's Gonna Do It Again by The Charlie Daniels Band.
Actually it was two songs by Neil Young that Lynyrd Skynyrd was responding to with Sweet Home Alabama. Southern Man was recorded on After the Gold Rush in 1970. In 1972 Neil released the Harvest album with the song Alabama which was even more critical of the South's Jim Crow laws. I don't think Ronnie Van Zant and Lynyrd Skynyrd were in favor of what was going on in the South, but their song might make you think otherwise.
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Once again your review would have benefitted from some research ahead of time. Your social commentary is worthwhile on its own but the assumptions you’ve made about Skynyrd are off base.
Sweet Home Alabama primarily was a response to Neil Young's song Alabama, although there is a Southern Man reference thrown in.
As a Canadian, we listened to Southern Man way more than Sweet Home Alabama and we saw Alabama the same way. How could you not?
Neil told the truth. By the way, Neil Young is very well known, especially for his song "Heart of Gold".
Wimpy little top 40 song his rock much better
The US has already paid that debt... the men who died during that war paid the price.
I think that one thing you need to keep in perspective is Neil is a Canadian, and therefore the entirety of the US is southern men
Neil wrote another song Titled Alabama, and as far as how popular the song is, up here in Canada it plays everyday on classic rock stations, sweet home doesn't play nearly as much.
Neil was a very important artist in the time of the civil rights movement, along with cats like Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell etc... and don't forget that Canada was the end of the underground railroad
I feel Sweet Home Alabama is a big hit becaue of the musicianship. It is a huge success globally where people are not aware much about American politics.
Keep in mind that neil is canadian. Born in Toronto. He was part of Crosby stills Nash and young. But went solo then he really exploded. He's very rock/ folk very heavy writing. Canada played a part in regards to the underground railroad to get slaves out of the USA to Canada. . We have our horrible history too unfortunately.
That was my point !
Interesting fun fact: Neil Young & Rick James were (briefly) in a band together in 1966 :)
@@VinAndSori I hear you vin and I would not like a person from another country doing a song like that or criticizing us as well. We have had our horrific history with indigenous pple plus is asian imigrants that were forced to build our cross country railroad. Many died along the way. No one country or pple can say they are better that any one else. Once you star digging we all are guilty. .
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