@tti1254 Nancy in Oliver Twist was pretty tragic as well. One of the characters in Dicken's novel David Copperfield alleged to be a prostitute dies from sinking in quicksand after being shunned by everyone and driven to poverty. The Victorian's loved giving gruesome deaths to their fictional prostitutes.
@cmm5542 I remember there being a victorian novel where a prostitute dies a gruesome death by drowning in sand, I've read so many. Their fates are quite melodramatic. It might have been Nicolas Nickelby, but there was definitely one.
It's so annoying every time I read people complaining 'Where are the songs!' Guys you do know that Les Miserables was originally a novel written by Victor Hugo before they even considered making it into a musical. The musical is just one adaption. This TV production is focusing on the novel and I think they already made it clear that it wasn't going to be another musical adaption! So if you only want the songs, watch the musical but if you really want to see a new adaption that focuses more on the book and more detail of the character background, then enjoy this new TV series!
@Lizzie Wilson, I totally agree. Read the book long ago. This is a wonderful television presentation📺. Don't need any music. My number one villain so far, the older women from the factory. Who went in search of information and found it. Just to get rid of pretty Fantine. Had to release that.😤 Have a good evening.
I hated the musical sooo much as I knew of the books before . I didn't enjoy it at all and they made Cosette such a vain character eww she was so much more interesting in the books they ruined her and it made her relationship with Marius very questionable
Still Searching Fantine was an orphan, she did not want to abandon her child. And adoption back then is not like the formal adoption system that you have now. Cosette was two in the book when Felix left them.
@Onion Face I’m not defending him, but Fantine gave herself to blind passion and was judged for it. I’m not saying it’s her fault, but that her own naivety was her undoing.
There was a bit in the book where they describe Fantine and baby as Fantine looks for work, and what really stood out was that the baby was dressed in very fancy, expensive clothes (for a baby), that indicate the father knew and had purchased the items for the child. So, he had been totally aware he had a child, and ghosted anyways.
Elsa Molarsky Today, that might be true, but in the past and still in many countries, they wouldn't as the woman should not have had sex before marriage arbre children outside of mariage wouldn't be recognised
Nah, she doesn't want to dress her child in rags, so she spends all her money on making sure Cosette is well presented, while she wears rags herself. Felix didn't know about the child in the book. Fantine gets herself into serious debt sells all her furniture and etc, and once she finally cant possibly afford nice clothes for Cosette anymore, she's devastated. But they never got anything off Felix -- it was all Fantine.
As I said, that makes him worse than Louis the 14th (the Sun King) - he cheated on his wife multiple times and most of his mistresses either faded away into oblivion or ended up in a convent, but he at least provided for his children. It was probably all for politics and I'd be surprised if he actually spent any time with any of his children (even the ones he had with his wife) but most of them he actually legitimized, gave them a title and arranged a good marriage for them. He was a tyrant who dropped women at a moments notice, but unlike Felix here he did something for his children. It's a pretty grim day for you when the Sun King comes out looking better than you.
This Les Miserables is a faithful adaptation of Victor Hugo's iconic novel, it has the essence, the spirit and the tone of the book, the first episode is really great. There's no boring part, and I love how they've given Fantine an equal amount of screentime as Valjean. Her backstory is not fully discussed in the musical, and I'm glad they stick with the book. The Pontmercy subplot is also well-executed and David Bradley is so convincing as Marius's Grandpa. As for Jean Valjean, Dominic West is superb. Overall I gave the first episode an 8.5/10
I agree, the first episode is very good. But I do not like the fact that they made Valjean attempt to kill a guard with a rock - there is so much happening in the book, I don’t see the point of making stuff up. I am reluctant to say I enjoyed it because of the way the director has acted towards the musical, calling it dreadful with bad songs. The reason he was allowed to make this series is because of the huge success of the musical, his budget would be a lot smaller if it had only been riding on the fame of the book.
JM CG I couldn't agree more! This was my favorite version of the story. It took the time for one to get to bond with each character! It was over Sunday and her I am Tuesday still reeling in the aftermath of sadness and satisfaction of the story. So well done! Your comment is so spot on!
I remember reading this part (except when he left he didn’t even know she was pregnant) and it shook me to my core. It really made the reality that this actually happens to women sink in, and it still gets to me sometimes to this day. There’s a reason I was very cautious of who I married, and I’m beyond grateful that I know I’ll never have to raise our babies alone. There’s a special place in hell for parents that abandon their child and the other parent.
The note was more insulting of them in the book. It talked about how the women knew nothing of the concept of having parents. And more insulting things.
The fact that Fantine was 17 and Felix was 30 ( when they met and then Fantine died at the age of 25) and such an age gap was probably normal always gets me.
I don't recall Felix being that old; wasn't he a student? I thought the book said he LOOKED closer to 30 because of his cynical expression and manner, but it's been a while since I read the book. Such age gaps weren't actually normal for boyfriends and girlfriends, though. Many women MARRIED older men for financial reasons, but unless a guy was very very rich he wouldn't be able to get a younger woman's interest for just an affair. Those were more common between young people of the same age, or older experienced 'demi-mondaines' with older men. There was a lot of nuance to the societal expectations. But of course there were exceptions to all of them, and as I said I don't actually recall whether Fantine was significantly younger.
Outstanding performance...she just gave everything for the role of Fantine...I cried with her when she had to sell her front teeth and had to sell her body in order to send money for her child...
He actually didn't. In the book, she is pregnant and no one knows, so the girls laugh it off when they learn about the "surprise". She wrote to him to let him know about their daughter but he didn't reply. This is not really true to the novel.
@@raina2319 The older girls knew that rich provincial guys came to Paris during their study breaks to mess around with women from the lower social classes but poor Fantine never realised it because she was younger and less experienced than they. I remember that in the novel she writes to him but he never replies or supports her finanically after Cosette is born.
@@adeel-eh7xq yes and they were smarter than fantine because they never committed fully to those men, except fantine. She tteated tholomyes as her husband
When I heard they were doing a Les Miserable with Ann Hathaway and Russel Crowe, I never guessed it would be a musical. This is the sorta thing I was wishing for.
@@devon6236oh, então se prepare para o final Spoiler No final, a barricada perde, a guarda encurrala Enjolras em um quarto, e Grantaire ( que havia passado a guerra toda dormindo em um canto após ter descontado na bebida uma briga com Enjolras) acorda, sobe as escadas correndo, se coloca ao lado dele diante do pelotão de tiro e os dois morrem de mãos dadas.
@@cheyennebrennan966 They choose to sign the divorce papers ultimately making them single mothers then the father pays thousands in alimony and child support while seeing his kids twice a year in holidays,they choose the single mother path on their own.
After all it's a very famous book and Victor Hugo is one of the greatest french writers (he has the same place as Shakespear for Americans and english ppl) and Les misérables is like Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet
If y'all are wondering why didn't Fantine just give Cosette up for adoption or smth, you gotta know that Fantine was an orphan herself, she didn't know her parents and the name "Fantine" was just used when a random passerby named her when she was a kid. She wanted to give Cosette what she wasn't able to receive from her own parents, parental care and love.
I do find it very funny that, while the writers have been saying how they've been massively faithful to the book, they haven't given Cosette her real name - Euphrasie!
As someone who has read the book, it really annoys me when people expect Les Misérables to be only about songs. I like the Musical starring Amanda Seyfried and Hugh Jackman but there have been a lot of adaptations before and they weren't musicals
The fact that her life spirals so tragically shows the brutal impact of being a fallen woman in those days. They are able to flee without a proper goodbye, go home, get married and have successful jobs. Meanwhile Fantine is left struggling with a child, trapped in increasingly worse minimum-wage jobs due to the stigma and no poor chances of finding a husband, which would have, besides making her happy, be easiest way to make her financially secure.
It’s even worse it’s not even minimum wage. Minimum wage was put in place to protect workers, there’s no protection for workers during this time period.
Being in America, I haven’t been able to watch the full episodes. I am thrilled this scene is in the series, as I’ve never seen it in any adaptation and it’s so crucial to understanding the story. The sting of this scene though is much harsher in the book. The letter is just cruel and condescending in the novel saying “we have parents, they are called mothers and fathers” insinuated these girls would not have parents. Also, the other two women find the letter and situation funny, as they seemed to always know the men where just stringing them along. Fantine laughs along. She then cries alone and the chapter ends with the cliffhanger that she has a child with Felix. This was a decent scene, but a few tiny changes would have added to the depths of Fantine’s pain.
I love the musical versions and I love the older film without music, with Liam Neeson, and Geoffrey Rush. This tv mini-series captured the story and stories of the characters so beautifully.💜 I really need to read the book!
One of my favorite books. If you want to understand the French revolution, read les Misreables' and a Tale of Two Cities. But more than an historical, les is environmentalist, psychological and spiritual.
@@eva7340 Actually it tells a story of events leading up to the June Rebellion that took place a couple of years after the 1830 revolution. Either way it's not about the French revolution that took place in the last decade of the 1700's that is the backdrop for Tale of Two Cities
There were 3 (successfull) revolutions in France. The big revolution of 1789 (the one everybody know), the revolution of 1830, the revolution of 1848. Les Miserables is about the REBELLION (Paris uprising) of 1832. It was not a revolution (a revolution is successfull). It was crushed, so it's called a rebellion. Also, if you followed the story and are now totally uneducated about History, you should now that the books begins just after the Napoleonic wars (so 25 years after the revolution of 1789). But it's a bit confusing because there was a (successfull) revolution in 1830 which overthrew the Bourbon king Charles X and replaced him by his more liberal cousin the duke of Orleans, who agreed to rule as a constitutional monarch. To resume: - the book begins at the end of the Napoleonic wars in 1815 with the Bourbon dynasty restored and the end of Napoleon's empire (all the story with Fantine and Cosette as a child takes place in this period) - then there was another revolution in 1830 (not covered in the story, but the book probably mention it). - to finish there is the actual rebellion covered in Les Miserables (when Cosette is a young lady) that takes place in 1832 (2 years after the revolution of 1830). This rebellion happened because republicans and bonapartists were pissed off that the monarchy didn't end with the revolution that happened 2 years before which just replaced one king by another king even if he was more liberal. So they felt robbed by the "liberal monarchists" (those who take part on their side during the revolution of 1830 but only wanted a constitutional monarchy) and decided to start another revolution which was crushed. Note that outside Paris, nobody gave a shit about this rebellion. This rebellion was a fiasco, only supported by some Parisian workers and students, and had very limited support. So here are the different "parties" (over-simplified description): - the legitimists (supported by the old nobility and the bigots and of course the other monarchies in Europe, they were popular in the countryside) who supported the Bourbon dynasty and wanted to restore the old order, they were in charge from 1815 (end of Napoleon) to 1830 (revolution) -> they "old order" party - the orleanists (supported by the bourgeoisie, the industrial class, the middle-class, the merchant class, popular in cities) who wanted a constitutional monarchy (they basically wanted exactly the same kind of monarchy there was in Great Britain) and took power thanks to the revolution of 1830 -> the "money" party - the bonapartists (who were nostalgics of Napoleon's Empire, mostly supported by the veterans and nationalists, popular in the countryside) -> the "military" party - the republicans (who wanted equality for all, mostly supported by students or urban workers, popular in cities) -> the "socialist" party (they were the leaders of the rebellion of 1832 covered in the book). Yes, it's complicated.
Actually I was pretty confused when reading the book because I also thought that she didn’t know she was pregnant, however later when she’s talking to the Thenardiers she says the Cosette is “going on three” and that it had been 10 months since their “farce” (him leaving her) so the only way that that could work is of Cosette had already been born
She lied to not be accused of having a child out of wedlock. I remember it mentions in the novel that Fantine did not know much about sex and the ways of the world being young, vulnerable and without a mother to guide and explain things to her.
The fact that the 2 values Fantine has are her pearl teeth and gold hair. And the actress has dark hair. I mean there are only 2 things decribes Fantine and you didn't even care when you choose actress ? WHY ?
I wonder why Fantine didn't take Cosette to his house in the country and show her to his parents. I think they would have given her money just to keep her away at the least and possibly paid for Cosette's keep and education the way many illegitimate children were supported in the past.
Denis Gauthier the musical was based of the book by Victor Hugo. That book is what this series is portraying. I like to see the book, musical, and now this new series as the epitome of human artistry- you’ve got music, storytelling, masterful writing, acting, costumery... all existing together. I guess what I’m saying is that one need not be thought superior. Fans of both can enjoy the other.
Why is Fantine brunette? She's a blonde in the book. Victor Hugo makes a big deal about her golden locks and the reason why they're so prized. I was annoyed that Anne Hathaway's Fantine had brown hair in the movie musical. How ordinary! I hope it didn't start a trend of dark-haired Fantines.
Yeah I feel like people are too focused on “ Blondes get everything” that they don’t realize how demeaning some roles are for blondes and they forget what’s important in character appearance. That’s why I love the musical. I mean make cosette a brunette for all I care but get fantine right for once.
This story just kills me every time. I'm reading the book for school and I need to read it again to remember important parts but it's too sad to read again!!😭😭😭
I read the comments before watching the whole thing and was like of course it’s based on a book and I still somehow thought she’d end up breaking out into song 😂🤦🏻♀️
Normally, while I'm for the Revolution, I'm against the guillotine and the reign of terror (yes I know this happened decades after both the revolution and the terror). But if these three dandies were led to the guillotine I don't think I'd be that sorry to see the blade fall.
I really love this series as a whole... really, EVERY adaptation brings something both familiar and different. This adaptation changes quite a bit, but I still love it ^^ This scene just... the build up; you the audience KNOWS these guys are freaking boner-driven scumbags, totally pulling the rug out of these young girls by pretending they have basic decency... and you dread when they're gonna find out... HOW are they gonna find out? Well... they just get smashed and say the "surprise" is them ditching... :( I dunno HOW they're gonna wrap up the rest of this story with 2 episodes @ an hour long each; we're BARELY at the half-way point in the story and A LOT has to happen... can't wait! XD
I really like this compared to the musical. There was a new song like every other 2 minutes! It was so annoying it took me a whole week to finish the movies because there was just TOO much singing.
This is so much better without the music.You can see,feel raw emotion in a realistic setting.When someone is dying for example the last thing I want to see is singing with their last breath
Bini Official It is hard for people to retain their accent when they get emotional. I understand that. With an English accent, I’m rather quite good but of you asked me to do a dialect I have not worked on, say, South African for example, then no, not yet.
People complaining about the lack of songs are going to be shocked when they learn that its based on a book
Wait there are actually people on the Les Mis fandom who don't know it's based on a book?
TheEastieA Wait, how do people not know that it’s based on a book?
I love the musical and this show but I don’t mind that it doesn’t have songs!
Park ChimMin because people don’t read 😹
I'm new to the 'fandom', but knew it was based on a book lmaooooo
Fantine will always one of the most tragic characters in littérature history.
And dumbest
Absolutely true
@tti1254 Nancy in Oliver Twist was pretty tragic as well. One of the characters in Dicken's novel David Copperfield alleged to be a prostitute dies from sinking in quicksand after being shunned by everyone and driven to poverty. The Victorian's loved giving gruesome deaths to their fictional prostitutes.
@@adeel-eh7xqHold on, I've read David Copperfield. I think that quicksand bit must have been added to a film version; it's not in the book?
@cmm5542 I remember there being a victorian novel where a prostitute dies a gruesome death by drowning in sand, I've read so many. Their fates are quite melodramatic. It might have been Nicolas Nickelby, but there was definitely one.
At one point I forgot what this is and legitimately waited for one of them to sing as in the musical
I was waiting for I Dreamed A Dream lol
Lmao same
Lmao we're too used to the musical 😂😂
@@Kage_Yurei IM AUTISTIC AND ADHD ITS MY LIFE 😂
It's so annoying every time I read people complaining 'Where are the songs!' Guys you do know that Les Miserables was originally a novel written by Victor Hugo before they even considered making it into a musical. The musical is just one adaption. This TV production is focusing on the novel and I think they already made it clear that it wasn't going to be another musical adaption! So if you only want the songs, watch the musical but if you really want to see a new adaption that focuses more on the book and more detail of the character background, then enjoy this new TV series!
your answer is so sensible
@Lizzie Wilson, I totally agree.
Read the book long ago. This is a wonderful television presentation📺. Don't need any music. My number one villain so far, the older women from the factory. Who went in search of information and found it. Just to get rid of pretty Fantine. Had to release that.😤
Have a good evening.
I am in 🖐🏽
There’s nothing to enjoy to be honest haha
I hated the musical sooo much as I knew of the books before . I didn't enjoy it at all and they made Cosette such a vain character eww she was so much more interesting in the books they ruined her and it made her relationship with Marius very questionable
He ruined her life.
But sadly back then there was no paternity court where he would be forced to provide aid to his child.
Couldn't she have given her up for adoption?
Still Searching Fantine was an orphan, she did not want to abandon her child. And adoption back then is not like the formal adoption system that you have now. Cosette was two in the book when Felix left them.
@Onion Face I’m not defending him, but Fantine gave herself to blind passion and was judged for it. I’m not saying it’s her fault, but that her own naivety was her undoing.
Ya think ? The ,an was worthless but Fanning is not blames. She was young and stupid and trusted the wrong guy to stack her life on
There was a bit in the book where they describe Fantine and baby as Fantine looks for work, and what really stood out was that the baby was dressed in very fancy, expensive clothes (for a baby), that indicate the father knew and had purchased the items for the child. So, he had been totally aware he had a child, and ghosted anyways.
I mean, it happens. Lots of guys act like they're ready for the kid and then abandon ship when the baby actually gets there.
Elsa Molarsky Today, that might be true, but in the past and still in many countries, they wouldn't as the woman should not have had sex before marriage arbre children outside of mariage wouldn't be recognised
Nah, she doesn't want to dress her child in rags, so she spends all her money on making sure Cosette is well presented, while she wears rags herself. Felix didn't know about the child in the book. Fantine gets herself into serious debt sells all her furniture and etc, and once she finally cant possibly afford nice clothes for Cosette anymore, she's devastated. But they never got anything off Felix -- it was all Fantine.
As I said, that makes him worse than Louis the 14th (the Sun King) - he cheated on his wife multiple times and most of his mistresses either faded away into oblivion or ended up in a convent, but he at least provided for his children. It was probably all for politics and I'd be surprised if he actually spent any time with any of his children (even the ones he had with his wife) but most of them he actually legitimized, gave them a title and arranged a good marriage for them. He was a tyrant who dropped women at a moments notice, but unlike Felix here he did something for his children. It's a pretty grim day for you when the Sun King comes out looking better than you.
bundi bird he was with her for three years, how did he *not* know?
This Les Miserables is a faithful adaptation of Victor Hugo's iconic novel, it has the essence, the spirit and the tone of the book, the first episode is really great. There's no boring part, and I love how they've given Fantine an equal amount of screentime as Valjean. Her backstory is not fully discussed in the musical, and I'm glad they stick with the book. The Pontmercy subplot is also well-executed and David Bradley is so convincing as Marius's Grandpa. As for Jean Valjean, Dominic West is superb. Overall I gave the first episode an 8.5/10
I agree, the first episode is very good. But I do not like the fact that they made Valjean attempt to kill a guard with a rock - there is so much happening in the book, I don’t see the point of making stuff up.
I am reluctant to say I enjoyed it because of the way the director has acted towards the musical, calling it dreadful with bad songs. The reason he was allowed to make this series is because of the huge success of the musical, his budget would be a lot smaller if it had only been riding on the fame of the book.
Faithful adaptation of the book🧐???With a black Javert in napoleonic times🤔???Ok😏
JM CG o
Astrid Holly Well said😏
JM CG I couldn't agree more! This was my favorite version of the story. It took the time for one to get to bond with each character! It was over Sunday and her I am Tuesday still reeling in the aftermath of sadness and satisfaction of the story. So well done! Your comment is so spot on!
I remember reading this part (except when he left he didn’t even know she was pregnant) and it shook me to my core. It really made the reality that this actually happens to women sink in, and it still gets to me sometimes to this day. There’s a reason I was very cautious of who I married, and I’m beyond grateful that I know I’ll never have to raise our babies alone. There’s a special place in hell for parents that abandon their child and the other parent.
In the book Cossette was already born and wearing nice baby clothes her father had bought for her, got dumped anyways.
@@Seek1878No, Fantine sold all she had to buy Cosette nice clothes; the father never knew.
The baby was 2 when he left.
The note was more insulting of them in the book. It talked about how the women knew nothing of the concept of having parents. And more insulting things.
The fact that Fantine was 17 and Felix was 30 ( when they met and then Fantine died at the age of 25) and such an age gap was probably normal always gets me.
I don't recall Felix being that old; wasn't he a student? I thought the book said he LOOKED closer to 30 because of his cynical expression and manner, but it's been a while since I read the book.
Such age gaps weren't actually normal for boyfriends and girlfriends, though. Many women MARRIED older men for financial reasons, but unless a guy was very very rich he wouldn't be able to get a younger woman's interest for just an affair. Those were more common between young people of the same age, or older experienced 'demi-mondaines' with older men. There was a lot of nuance to the societal expectations.
But of course there were exceptions to all of them, and as I said I don't actually recall whether Fantine was significantly younger.
Outstanding performance...she just gave everything for the role of Fantine...I cried with her when she had to sell her front teeth and had to sell her body in order to send money for her child...
Anca A. True, Lily Collins played the character with so much passion, that it's hard to imagine anyone else in the role.
Anca A. I’ve sets loved her acting, but damn this role for her blew me away.
was hilarious!
😂😂so lame
Lily Collins and Anne Hathaway both really brought depth to the character Fantine they were my favorite portrayals of the character.
He was with her for three years! Till Cosette was two! How did he expect her to handle it?!
He didn't expect anything because he never thought of her. He only ever thought of himself. He wasn't worth her time or her heart.
He actually didn't. In the book, she is pregnant and no one knows, so the girls laugh it off when they learn about the "surprise". She wrote to him to let him know about their daughter but he didn't reply. This is not really true to the novel.
@@raina2319 Exactly
In the novel she was about to tell him when he left
@@raina2319 The older girls knew that rich provincial guys came to Paris during their study breaks to mess around with women from the lower social classes but poor Fantine never realised it because she was younger and less experienced than they. I remember that in the novel she writes to him but he never replies or supports her finanically after Cosette is born.
@@adeel-eh7xq yes and they were smarter than fantine because they never committed fully to those men, except fantine. She tteated tholomyes as her husband
In my heart Lily won an Emmy for this role. Absolutely breaktaking and painful to watch her play this character so well.
This scene is so heartbreaking 😭 Poor Fantine 💔 She loved him 😔
StellaMovieSeries Sometimes being forever single is better.
When I heard they were doing a Les Miserable with Ann Hathaway and Russel Crowe, I never guessed it would be a musical. This is the sorta thing I was wishing for.
The worst part is he probably did the same to other girls and left their lives in turmoil as well
At least her friends seemed more sympathetic here while in the book, they just laughed it off while Fantine merely pretended to.
He spent a summer by my siiiiiide
but he was gone when Autumn came
Devon more like three years (according to the book and not the musical)
@@AmethystEyes Didn't read the book yet lol but I'm gonna get it at the library when I'm done with the one I'm reading now :)
Devon great! Just a heads up: it is very, very long.
@@AmethystEyes Oof yeah. I'm just excited for Grantaire lol
@@devon6236oh, então se prepare para o final
Spoiler
No final, a barricada perde, a guarda encurrala Enjolras em um quarto, e Grantaire ( que havia passado a guerra toda dormindo em um canto após ter descontado na bebida uma briga com Enjolras) acorda, sobe as escadas correndo, se coloca ao lado dele diante do pelotão de tiro e os dois morrem de mãos dadas.
I really can be out having fun and suddenly my brain goes "FANTINE DESERVED BETTER" and yeap.....Her story haunts me!
Lily Collins is fully committed to the single mother role...
Ikr loll
Yasss maybe that's the way she gives herself heads up not to be a single mother
@@guesswhoiam1875 More than likely she will be one in the future lol just like her own mother
@@patrickbateman1540 😂Possibly! And I bet she has cold feet all the time
@@cheyennebrennan966 They choose to sign the divorce papers ultimately making them single mothers then the father pays thousands in alimony and child support while seeing his kids twice a year in holidays,they choose the single mother path on their own.
A book, a musical, an anime, a comic, a movie, and now a serie ? please !
TAKE ALL MY MONEY BBC
It's not just a movie there is a few movies based on Les Mis
After all it's a very famous book and Victor Hugo is one of the greatest french writers (he has the same place as Shakespear for Americans and english ppl) and Les misérables is like Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet
@@Mystic-wq8xt Yeah I know, I'm french too
@@Ani-pl2dv Oh okay lol
Anime?????
I dreamed a dream of time gone by..
who else was waiting for her to break out into song? I momentarily forgot this was a non-musical version.
Well the musical is based on the novel.
I wish there was a shorter version of I dreamed a dream in this like the ending part” now life has killed the dream I dreamed....”
And according to the novel, it was most likely Felix’s idea. He was with her for three years and Cosette was two by that time!
If y'all are wondering why didn't Fantine just give Cosette up for adoption or smth, you gotta know that Fantine was an orphan herself, she didn't know her parents and the name "Fantine" was just used when a random passerby named her when she was a kid. She wanted to give Cosette what she wasn't able to receive from her own parents, parental care and love.
Plus, not every mother is willing to give up their baby
Also adoption back then meant a crappy crowded orphanage until they came of age.
@@Seek1878yes! And they didn’t even teach them to read.
@@Seek1878yes! And they didn’t even teach them to read.
Lily Collins is an excellent in this. I couldn't help crying after her downfall in episode 2. What a moving performance!
Pls where can I watch the video in full? Or where can I see the book
I do find it very funny that, while the writers have been saying how they've been massively faithful to the book, they haven't given Cosette her real name - Euphrasie!
Actually, while it's true that Cosette's real name is Euphrasie, it's also clearly stated that Fantine called her Cosette.
And they have a brunette Fantine
@@erikabautista7072 and a black Javert
As someone who has read the book, it really annoys me when people expect Les Misérables to be only about songs. I like the Musical starring Amanda Seyfried and Hugh Jackman but there have been a lot of adaptations before and they weren't musicals
For me, both Lilly Collins and Anne Hathaway made the BEST portrayals of Fantine
The fact that her life spirals so tragically shows the brutal impact of being a fallen woman in those days. They are able to flee without a proper goodbye, go home, get married and have successful jobs. Meanwhile Fantine is left struggling with a child, trapped in increasingly worse minimum-wage jobs due to the stigma and no poor chances of finding a husband, which would have, besides making her happy, be easiest way to make her financially secure.
It’s even worse it’s not even minimum wage. Minimum wage was put in place to protect workers, there’s no protection for workers during this time period.
As a single mother this scene is so hard to watch, in whichever reincarnations of Fantine this happens to.
This is heartbreaking
Being in America, I haven’t been able to watch the full episodes. I am thrilled this scene is in the series, as I’ve never seen it in any adaptation and it’s so crucial to understanding the story. The sting of this scene though is much harsher in the book. The letter is just cruel and condescending in the novel saying “we have parents, they are called mothers and fathers” insinuated these girls would not have parents. Also, the other two women find the letter and situation funny, as they seemed to always know the men where just stringing them along. Fantine laughs along. She then cries alone and the chapter ends with the cliffhanger that she has a child with Felix. This was a decent scene, but a few tiny changes would have added to the depths of Fantine’s pain.
It's coming to America and many other countries, so we'll all be able to watch this masterpiece. Coming to PBS next month. 😊
Unpopular opinion: I love it when no one sings in Les Mis
Fantastic drama. This and War and Peace have and are blowing me away.
I swear she is the perfect Fantine, she moved me like hanne hateway never could
Hanne Hateway???😄😄😄😄😄
I love the musical versions and I love the older film without music, with Liam Neeson, and Geoffrey Rush. This tv mini-series captured the story and stories of the characters so beautifully.💜
I really need to read the book!
He slept a summer by my side,
He filled my days with endless wonder...
He took my childhood in his stride,
But he was gone when autumn came!
don't cry my dear Jean Valjean will come !!
And then she'll die
And she'll lose her teeth and hair
Josefa C. All of those things.
@@josefalc29 At last her daughter’s future is going to be perfect
@@aronsmith2688 not perfect at all
It’s interesting that when Felix says the word die, the camera is on Fantine, possibly foreshadowing her death.
What a great actress lily is
Mr Knightley, how dare you!
One of my favorite books. If you want to understand the French revolution, read les Misreables' and a Tale of Two Cities. But more than an historical, les is environmentalist, psychological and spiritual.
I hate to be that person but Les Miserables is about a rebellion which took place decades after the French revolution
But it took place during another French Revolution: there were many at this time: 1830, 1848...I think it is the 1830 one
@@eva7340 Actually it tells a story of events leading up to the June Rebellion that took place a couple of years after the 1830 revolution. Either way it's not about the French revolution that took place in the last decade of the 1700's that is the backdrop for Tale of Two Cities
@@LuxLisbon26 I agree with you. However in France we are talking about Revolution for 1789 that one and the other in 1848.
There were 3 (successfull) revolutions in France. The big revolution of 1789 (the one everybody know), the revolution of 1830, the revolution of 1848.
Les Miserables is about the REBELLION (Paris uprising) of 1832. It was not a revolution (a revolution is successfull). It was crushed, so it's called a rebellion.
Also, if you followed the story and are now totally uneducated about History, you should now that the books begins just after the Napoleonic wars (so 25 years after the revolution of 1789).
But it's a bit confusing because there was a (successfull) revolution in 1830 which overthrew the Bourbon king Charles X and replaced him by his more liberal cousin the duke of Orleans, who agreed to rule as a constitutional monarch.
To resume:
- the book begins at the end of the Napoleonic wars in 1815 with the Bourbon dynasty restored and the end of Napoleon's empire (all the story with Fantine and Cosette as a child takes place in this period)
- then there was another revolution in 1830 (not covered in the story, but the book probably mention it).
- to finish there is the actual rebellion covered in Les Miserables (when Cosette is a young lady) that takes place in 1832 (2 years after the revolution of 1830). This rebellion happened because republicans and bonapartists were pissed off that the monarchy didn't end with the revolution that happened 2 years before which just replaced one king by another king even if he was more liberal. So they felt robbed by the "liberal monarchists" (those who take part on their side during the revolution of 1830 but only wanted a constitutional monarchy) and decided to start another revolution which was crushed. Note that outside Paris, nobody gave a shit about this rebellion. This rebellion was a fiasco, only supported by some Parisian workers and students, and had very limited support.
So here are the different "parties" (over-simplified description):
- the legitimists (supported by the old nobility and the bigots and of course the other monarchies in Europe, they were popular in the countryside) who supported the Bourbon dynasty and wanted to restore the old order, they were in charge from 1815 (end of Napoleon) to 1830 (revolution) -> they "old order" party
- the orleanists (supported by the bourgeoisie, the industrial class, the middle-class, the merchant class, popular in cities) who wanted a constitutional monarchy (they basically wanted exactly the same kind of monarchy there was in Great Britain) and took power thanks to the revolution of 1830 -> the "money" party
- the bonapartists (who were nostalgics of Napoleon's Empire, mostly supported by the veterans and nationalists, popular in the countryside) -> the "military" party
- the republicans (who wanted equality for all, mostly supported by students or urban workers, popular in cities) -> the "socialist" party (they were the leaders of the rebellion of 1832 covered in the book).
Yes, it's complicated.
I could genuinely feel her dissapointment
:( great acting ...
Actually I was pretty confused when reading the book because I also thought that she didn’t know she was pregnant, however later when she’s talking to the Thenardiers she says the Cosette is “going on three” and that it had been 10 months since their “farce” (him leaving her) so the only way that that could work is of Cosette had already been born
She lied to not be accused of having a child out of wedlock. I remember it mentions in the novel that Fantine did not know much about sex and the ways of the world being young, vulnerable and without a mother to guide and explain things to her.
4:08 Aw baby Cossette
Uhp, lesson learned. Not going to give a man anything until he will give back. Ladies!
learned this lesson 20 years late but now as a older lady been celibate for 14 years being more cautious around men.
The fact that the 2 values Fantine has are her pearl teeth and gold hair. And the actress has dark hair. I mean there are only 2 things decribes Fantine and you didn't even care when you choose actress ? WHY ?
this is the best Les Miserables I have ever seen so far.
Poor fantien this was her first strike
the cuts are a bit rough
Alejandra Rodrígues that’s exactly what I thought.
do you think they did it stylistically?
I like this better as the musical the lighting is really great in this btw.
DanceTweety Looney Tune I agree. Great cinematography! Something quite rare in TV shows.
Its so sad. Many women ended up like fantine
I wonder why Fantine didn't take Cosette to his house in the country and show her to his parents. I think they would have given her money just to keep her away at the least and possibly paid for Cosette's keep and education the way many illegitimate children were supported in the past.
She most likely didn’t know where he lived. And there were no paternity tests back then to prove parentage
1:44 that was a goodbye kiss on his part.
I like this much better as a musical
Denis Gauthier the musical was based of the book by Victor Hugo. That book is what this series is portraying. I like to see the book, musical, and now this new series as the epitome of human artistry- you’ve got music, storytelling, masterful writing, acting, costumery... all existing together. I guess what I’m saying is that one need not be thought superior. Fans of both can enjoy the other.
Why is Fantine brunette? She's a blonde in the book. Victor Hugo makes a big deal about her golden locks and the reason why they're so prized. I was annoyed that Anne Hathaway's Fantine had brown hair in the movie musical. How ordinary! I hope it didn't start a trend of dark-haired Fantines.
Uma Turman was a redhead.
After what Anne Hathaway did with the role, killing us all, she could have had her hair blue and I would still preach it.
I hope nobody sees the movie as a good example of how les mis should be done...
I know, I actually don't like the movie very much, but Anne's part was perfect and no one can deny it. @@emihall3181
Yeah I feel like people are too focused on “ Blondes get everything” that they don’t realize how demeaning some roles are for blondes and they forget what’s important in character appearance. That’s why I love the musical. I mean make cosette a brunette for all I care but get fantine right for once.
He ruined her life and his babys life
I love this series . It tops Game of Thrones for me
This story just kills me every time. I'm reading the book for school and I need to read it again to remember important parts but it's too sad to read again!!😭😭😭
Not quite how I imagined it in the novel, but still very well done!
I read the comments before watching the whole thing and was like of course it’s based on a book and I still somehow thought she’d end up breaking out into song 😂🤦🏻♀️
I memed a meme...
In time gone by...
I meme that meme would never die
Plan On Studying
Then I was young and unafraid.
And memes were made, and used, and wasted.
When I was young and funnier
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I loved this BBC series! Really similar than the novel!!!
Did her friends knew she had a child? Or did they think that she was only just in love with him?
They probably wouldn't have helped her though.
Thanks BBC...I love this series...
I wished Felix got his karma and got tortured somehow, he really messed up Fantines life
Fun fact: Felix was bald in the book.
And didn’t even have any teeth either
I like in this version we get to see baby Cosette, cause in the 2012 movie, we first see her when she's three
My Mr. Knightley made some serious progress in his self-improvement. He's much nobler now than he was three years ago
I’ve watched the film and musical but I think I’ll watch the BBC too because I’ve always wbated to see Fantines life before
My parents named me off of the book
Normally, while I'm for the Revolution, I'm against the guillotine and the reign of terror (yes I know this happened decades after both the revolution and the terror). But if these three dandies were led to the guillotine I don't think I'd be that sorry to see the blade fall.
Those men though!!! I'd be shook 🤣
Who the fuck would leave Lily Collins.
I've read this part in the book but I believe there were four couples. And the letter was brought to them an hour after they left.
Yes, so the girls couldn’t run out to catch them.
Donde puedo ver esto completo
You have to buy it. Comprar
Hey girls, shake it off, eat drink and be merry.The meal is paid for.
I really love this series as a whole... really, EVERY adaptation brings something both familiar and different.
This adaptation changes quite a bit, but I still love it ^^
This scene just... the build up; you the audience KNOWS these guys are freaking boner-driven scumbags, totally pulling the rug out of these young girls by pretending they have basic decency... and you dread when they're gonna find out... HOW are they gonna find out?
Well... they just get smashed and say the "surprise" is them ditching... :(
I dunno HOW they're gonna wrap up the rest of this story with 2 episodes @ an hour long each; we're BARELY at the half-way point in the story and A LOT has to happen... can't wait! XD
I like this so much
Is les mis a series now?
Yes
Only for 6 episodes
Wilson Kanadi wait the whole series is 6 episodes or the first season is 6 episodes?
In Felix’s own passive way, SURPRISE! Life is so beautiful and Now you have a kid,I’m leaving you 🤮🤮🤮 oh man….
Saddest part? Hugo was writing about himself and what he did to a girl...
What’d he do?
Wait what?!
I really like this compared to the musical. There was a new song like every other 2 minutes! It was so annoying it took me a whole week to finish the movies because there was just TOO much singing.
I don't get what happened. This wasn't in the original
This is so sad!
😭😭😭😭
Oh... and here she already have a baby when Tholomyes left.
The girls had a surprise from them, but they did not expect that to be the surprise, and not a good one either!
Did Felix even know about their child??
how did he miss the pregnancy??
This is so much better without the music.You can see,feel raw emotion in a realistic setting.When someone is dying for example the last thing I want to see is singing with their last breath
Loved this Version but...Fantine Should of actually being Blue eyed with long curly Blonde hair xx
I loved It Les Miserables
When can I buy the boxset, or watch it in Ireland?
Sooo heartbreaking
Lily Collins 😍
wow this is like love, rosie
Why did Johnny Flynn abandoned Lily Collins WHYYYY
Liked it but very confusing and no songs but the acting was great and Dominic West and lily Collins were spectacular especially
this is great!
She dropped her accent at the end. Sorry. 🤷♀️
AmethystEyes she is british herself.. how would she do that?
Nienke she has an american accent :)
It is very hard to cry and keep a British accent at the same time, especially if you're American.
Bini Official It is hard for people to retain their accent when they get emotional. I understand that. With an English accent, I’m rather quite good but of you asked me to do a dialect I have not worked on, say, South African for example, then no, not yet.
Devon and there is an actual neurological reason to why that is so difficult to do both at the same time.