I would've liked to have seen a meeting between Bellec and Connor; he mentioned Connor rebuilding the American colonies, yet probably didn't know that Connor himself was similar to Arno in that he didn't outright hate the Templars and thought it was possible for them to coexist.
True, but Shay would be too old for a fight. By the time of Dead Kings he would be 63-64, but then again, Germain was 68 when he fought Arno. He could potentially be the Grand Master of the American Rite.
@@finesthour97 I bet the sword of Eden gave Germain strength despite his old age. Assassins and Templars are no longer bound by human weakness with the pieces of Eden.
@@finesthour97I mean Altair was still kicking ass in his 60s same with Ezio apart from that he had been retired for a while and put his heart under strain when he would do such moves I don’t think it would be too much of a stretch to have shay still be active
According to Assassin’s Creed fandom Bellec was actually a veteran of the Seven Years’ War, who witnessed the Great Templar purge of the Assassins from 1757-1763 (the one that was aided by Shay’s destruction of the Colonial Brotherhood). Which is likely why he hates Templars with a burning passion. Also, the Parisian Brotherhood (Except Mirabeu and Bellec) were complete assholes, especially toward Arno
I think it was justified for the Parisian Brotherhood to dislike Arno. He constantly refused to return to them after each assigned mission. It is still crazy that they didn't kick him out after assassinating Lafreniere, which he did after listening to a dude he had never met before. Some people say Connor in AC3 trusts people way too fast, but Arno is even worse.
@@makkerman1074 To be fair to Arno, he was manipulated by Germain into thinking Lafreniere was an enemy. While Arno did act on his own constantly, you can’t really blame him for doing so considering the Parisian Brotherhood constantly had their heads up their asses during the game and didn’t do jack shit
@@captainprice2671 They're French of course they had their heads up there and weren't doing anything... Jokes aside, it's not that they weren't doing anything. It's that they were too busy to deal with Arno's love life. It's the French Revolution. The Parisian Brotherhood had their hands full. I don't blame the Brotherhood for not going on a wild goose chase while there's so many other things to prioritize compared to some conspiracy theory about their enemies who they have a truce with. While Bellec and Arno were in conflict about how to deal with the Templars, their mentor was actually dealing with the French Revolution and the challenges the Assassins were facing due to it. Now was just not the time to look for a fight with the Templars.
@@captainprice2671 same man, arbo was the only one in the brotherhood of Paris who was concerned about the German and what he represented against freedom during the French revolution while the creed or rather the council was only concerned with maintaining a position of power in the revolution and the brotherhood and they expelled Arno forever questioning the methods and trying to find the best way to deal with the real threat, bellec is the pure representation of the achilles creed and just seeing someone with a templar cross means killing first and asking questions later, the only one there that i'm sure altair would have pride is arno, the brotherhood of paris is the same brotherhood before the altair.
Great video as always! For me, Bellec was blinded by fanaticism, very similar to how Roshan was blinded by dogma. I love those characters because they really show the nuances and flaws of the creed. Would love to see a video like this covering Roshan next!
Pierre was also french-canadian, becoming an assassin in the north american colonies, probably trained by Achilles and company (who also had a very extremist view on the assassin´s creed, and probably brainwashed pierre into this way of thinking) and escaped the templar´s purge led by Haytham and his templars. so that may explain his radical position in the assassin-templar war.
It's easy to understand Bellec's hatred for the Templars because he had to flee the American colonies after Shay destroyed the Brotherhood. And for all we know a young Bellec might have crossed paths with Shay, because Shay was storming French forts and encampments during the French and Indian War, and Bellec was an enlisted soldier with the French colonials. So Shay's turn against the assassins would have been known to him as a huge betrayal. Then his own pupil, Arno's father got killed, again by Shay. Of course he didn't seem to know that, but the Templars had been a thorn on his side since the French and Indian War so he' never consider a truce.
The Assassins vs Templars war is a war where no one side is correct. The main antagonist of the first game of the series is not a templar, but the mentor of the assassin brotherhood. Both sides have morally good people and morally bad people just like any real life war.
A mentor whos mind was corrupted by the apple of eden . Its not as black and white as one good one bad or even none are bad it depends on what you belief. Should humanity be indoctrinated persecuted and controlled in order to gain peace and order or should we be free to find our own way . Id go with the latter
@@the_epileptic_gamer1190 Robert literally says he’s the 10th templar in AC1. His journal has much evidence supporting the fact. His ideology is that of a templar. You can spot him dodging your questions many times in AC1 (if you played it) to avoid exposing himself. He barely ever disclosed any truth of the templars and lied to altair about what they wanted. The entire game is him setting things into motion so he can use the apple. The apple just pushed him over the edge
Yeah , he is a really good character. But I bet that if AC Unity was finished as intended with the intended story , than I think we would have talked about every character of this game very differently and more positively. It's amazing that even with the game being gutted , the characters are still good
I don't think that the assassin's knew Altair's wife was a tempar or at least the assassin's in the future and onwards (except for the modern brotherhood)
I'm saying this right now... We need a video about Assassin's Creed 1's antagonist, Al Mualim, and how influential he was to the series. In most videos I've seen talking about AC main villains like Rodrigo, Cesare, Haytham, etc., we never hear anything about the franchise's first villain, and that's odd.
100% agree. I still like Al Mualim, even if he was a traitor lol. He's an intriguing character, I remember there was even some debate if he was just blind on one eye or actually a Sage, because he could handle the Apple of Eden so well for so long, and he could confound his opponents like a wizard. He seemed very wise and powerful, and mysterious
Oddly enough I am actually working on a series of assassins creed stories with a friend of mine and one of them involves a tale of a period of peace between the Assassins and Templars via two brothers who are the Mentor and Grand Master of the American Brotherhood and Rite respectively in the tail end of Wild West era. It’s a future project called AC: Redemption and I’m personally really excited about doing it myself since exploring a truce period between the factions was always interesting to me
@@Mansonisthename The first story in the series is Assassin’s Creed: Outlaw on Fanfic net, there are also two spin off as well on my profile Dragon Emperor0
The Levantine Templars were not corrupted. Were their methods questionable, yes but I would not call them corrupt. Even Altair said that their goals were noble.
it was actually way more corrupt lmfao rouge is a prime example of that the assassins in france had been working with philip and his bloodline since the fall of the templars the french order of assassins shown both in unity and rouge were a corrupted brotherhood
One thing I know when seeing this kind of character is that seeing the things he saw as an assassin can change a person good or bad. Pierre Bellec once said he saw the Templars destroy an entire town just to find one assassin. I’m beginning to wonder if he was the Assassin who was targeted. Coulda mess him up for life witnessing that event, leading him to his choice of “new assassin management.”
Interesting idea, that the target might've been him, that would explain his extreme views. We do see Templars don't care about the common people who get in their way... Cesare bombards Monteriggioni, that guy in AC1 in Damascus poisoned his guests at his party, in AC3 the Templars instigated the Boston massacre, it's a theme with the Templars.
In the game I always hated the way the French Brotherhood Council were. They just rubbed me the wrong way. Sure Arno was brash and arrogant but honestly if they should have expected this because he was fuelled by Revenge. They finally strip him of his rank and cast him out. When Arno finally rejoins the Brotherhood I think it’s when all of them are dead and the French Brotherhood needed him.
Bellec doesn't have an Irish accent, he has a west country accent, like Hagrid from HP. Irish is Connor McGregor. Scottish is Ground Keeper Willy from the Simpsons 🤙
I think he become obsessed with the brotherhood and become the very person he would hate I think it was the loss of his people that made him that way but I don't think any action purely based on emotions is good .
Not exactly related to the vid, but the missed potential in ac unity is insane, imagine if the parkour system had the that same style and flare whule still having the freedom and control of the ezio games, and the smothness of the kenway games, and so many more things coudve been way better, but ubisoft just had to be ubisoft.
I will always remember Pierre Bellec. Not just because of his classy attitude but for him showing what nationalism can do to you if you neglect people Infront of you. I don't believe that he should've killed the Mentor of that time as it would cause chaos in the leadership not peace. Look at other characters like Mordo from Doctor Strange or Kassegowasse from AC Rouge. These charcters where so stuck on tradition and hatred for adaptation and growth that it turned one evil (Mordo) and got the other killed (Kassegowasse). A pattern anyone?
Imagine if we actually got to see Arno rejoin the brotherhood and reach the master assassin rank instead of finishing the game and his robes just….appear in your inventory. Cool ass robes tho.
I have an idea (irrelevant to Unity). What if the bright tone of Syndicate is ‘caused’ by the young protagonists who want to change London for the better. Where as in the DLC (apart from the fact that it fits a more accurate tone of London etc) the protagonists are older and they struggle to achieve their goal. But one thing is for sure, it looks stunning (both game and DLC)
I understood what bellec was doing he wanted to rebuild the brotherhood which they haven't seen in 200 years as he said that to Arno but the methods he used they were wrong
This is why l think this game had a reaaly good story, despite the fact that some people think it wasn't good enough. The characters' backstories give this game so much depth. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for this video, since I haven't played this game in a while and I didn't really look in too deeply I didn't really understand Bellec's motives but this video helped a lot to see his view point. I def have to replay this game again and it's most def an underrated AC game
I would like you to make playtrough for ac games or other games. I would be happy to see someone on UA-cam who doesn't yap all the time but actually knows what he is talking about and actually knows how to play the game.
Dude he was right. The Templars principles clash hard against the Assassins principles. That alone is enough to be fire and water. The Templars literally want to take the power off people, no matter if they are plebs or royalty, because "they know better". The Assassins just disagree and they fight, not because they hate the men behind the masks but because eachother threatens the others way of life. Arno was just too busy with his own feelings towards Elise and her father to think about the damn principles held by both creeds. It really surprises me how a leader of the Assassins can agree on helping a Templar to have her revenge, even if it is against other Templars. My enemies enemy is not always a friend. In this case, the Assassins had an extreme weak leadership to even consider a proposition with the Templars. One could say that Altairs wife was a Templar, and they would be right. She "was" a Templar. We can clearly see she went through a whole process of abandoning them Templars principles and embracing the Assassins creed. In hindsight, I personally think any truce between Templars and Assassins is due to a very weak minded leadership, because as long as both creeds hold their principles, they cannot be friends and even more, they will fight until one or the other are completely destroyed. That would be the ideal process anyway. But I really like how the writers achieved this "grey" zone in the morality, just enough to get players siding with one creed or the other. Cool
Definitely should’ve been the final boss, where I think he should’ve been the one helping Arno hunt down other Templars when he got pushed out, lying to him, and working with him and Elise. Also, instead of trying to frame a Elise for the mentors murder he should’ve framed Rui for the murder. then finally at the end where the big blast happens and Arno thinks Elise is dead, but she survives and go to leave but she’s suddenly shot in the back, killing her, as bellic demands for the sword of Eden and tries to get Arno to join him. Arno in a rage takes the sword and uses it power and fights and finally kills bellic in a few fight sequences and sees the truth that he killed the mentor as well
Noice vid 💯 One thing tho I thought no one found out that it was shay who killed arno's father? Because if bellec knew why didn't he chase shay? Or do you mean since he was "killed" bellec knew it was a templar who did it?
I think callin Bellec is Nationalist is somewhat off. Nationalism is more of putting the priority of your country or group above others. I would call him a Jingoist. Jingoism is actively destroying other groups for your’s to succeed. Jingoism is just more radical and aggressive.
I can understand Bellec's reasonings, but I do truly believe that peace could have been found within the story of Unity as I feel that Germain was really the only Templar in Unity who believed in the cause, maybe with the exception of Marie Levesque and possibly Louis-michel Le Peletier, but even then I feel that they agreed with Germain perhaps out of fear due to how much power he had. But others such as Sivert, Le Roi des Thunes, Rouille, and La Touché were more following Germain for personal gain. Hell, La Touché seemed to not even believe in the cause, so if Germain was killed either before the events of the game or even if Arno acted brashly and killed him when he first met the man, I do believe that the others would scatter or fall in line behind Élise, which then I feel a more lasting peace would have happened, sure, maybe not forever but perhaps as long as Élise and Arno lived and that's if Bellec had still killed Mirabeau. I think if Bellec had gone rogue, he'd have been a huge asset to the brotherhood, and, of course, Arno would likely not have been exiled from the brotherhood. Also, I've been curious about this: Did Arno get reinstated into the brotherhood, or did he too sort of become a rogue assassin, but rather than against the brotherhood, helped them. I'm not familiar with the rules of exiled assassins.
@@Foxster_13 That's how i been feeling about it as well. Also, to answer you question my brôther: After Arno recovered a Piece of Eden and (partially) single handedly stopped Napoleon's plans at the time, he got officially accepted back into the Brotherhood (off-screen) and eventually got the rank of master (off-screen as well), he also basically become truly devoted to The Credô after losing Élise
Bellec, much like the rest of the French Brotherhood, are traditionalists. If it meant killing the mentor to frame a templar to take care of a perceived threat, Bellec would have done it. What separates him from the rest is that he has an extremist almost religious level of devotion to the brotherhood even by traditionalist standards.
Bellec is kind of like Jet from Avatar The Last Airbender. Bellec didn’t trust the Templars and Jet didn’t trust the Fire Nation and both went to extreme lengths moving forward.
Well, it was established before in AC3 that every truth the Assassins and Templars have had has always been temporary with Unity showing an example as to why that is. They're just too different. They both want peace but the how, the journey and methods to it, are very opposites.
They definitely made his stance understandable. It would have been hard for Arno to do what he did. I mean, he was his mentor and his point of view is completely understandable.
You forgot his other two examples. Monteriggioni was destroyed because Ezio tried to kill Borgia. I'm not saying it wouldn't have happened even if he got killed, but Cesare could've destroyed the town at any point if he new a dangerous assassin lived there. Or two. Actually, an entire family. And Achilles was a tough mentor who didn't see himself in the wrong. He was failed by Shay, one of his bretheren and inadvertedly made a monster.
He wouldn’t listen to shay shay was completely traumatised after the Lisbon earthquake happened when he took the piece of Eden and in the end, he admitted shay was right
Bellec for me was like an Assassin version of Germain. Both wanted to revive the former glory that was lost from their respective orders. Both are willing to go the extra mile to purge the other.
everyone probably speaking in british accents was either using unused assets from the previous games to save production or they made the decision that everyone speaking in french accents would be somehow racist to french people...ik its a game based in france but its the backwards world we live in today
I wish that this fight had a choice, instead of dead kings dlc, the dlc should've been a choice, where the whole story could change if you chose Bellecks side
The thing is Pier escaped the colonial purge which is bad. Because the colonial brotherhood was just infested by Altiar, Aboss, and Macandall's teachings. Pier's own words "We're not an order, we're an army." The problem with that is that an army has no creed, it just fights, kills, and conquers without considering the consequences or the big picture about why they fight. It's why in the actual history books they were sent out to die against the Mongols and if any survived got disbanded by the nations and authorities of the known world same with the templars. It's the reason why Shay's plight attracted the Templars. Why Altiar ordering the strike on the Templars in Paris eventually resulted in his own order's demise by reigniting war with the Templars in the first place. Why Abass and Macadal corrupted the Assassins. And why Macandal/ two whole brotherhoods fed by his teachings ended with a mass violation of all three tenets of the creed. It's like Jay Garek said, "Without limits we become villains." And the creed is an order's limit. It's why an army has commands rather than tenants. Tenants keep people on the straight and narrow, for an army that's detrimental. As by necessity you must be prepared to eventually sacrifice, disregard, and let go of everything for victory. Even the innocent, stealth, and safety of one's comrades. Which goes against the Creed.
The problem with Bellec, like every character in this game, is that they lack any real depth and characterisation making them all more or less macchiettes. Consequently, it is complex to speculate on the basis of nothing, especially if the story of game is incomplete and rushed
He was right about the peace only being temporary, but it wasnt really peace at all, it was Arno working with his girlfriend who happened to be a templar to kill other templars. Killing the leaders of the assassins' and trying to kill elise was just foolish on his part.
Assassins Creed needs to go back to making proper Assassins Creed games. All the franchise needs to do is to focus on Assassins and the Creed again, as well as moving forward in time with the modern day, going back to the old games is nice but we need something better to look forward to.
Pierre was a fascist more interested in putting the assassins into power than carrying out what they were formed to fight against (granted, I sympathize with viewing the measures the assassins take against the templars as a series of half measures, but he went entirely the wrong way with it and in his quest to destroy the templars ultimately made him more like them). I even sympathize with ridding the assassins of their leader ship (albeit to take a decentralized approach to their mission)
The piss pot guy was right Arno is such a spineless character scared to put Elise in her place she just blames him for everything after he already feels bad about her father she acts as if her dad wasn’t like a father to Arno either she knows Arno loves her and she uses that against him for her dangerous revenge plot also I’m hearing in the lore she cheats on Arno not sure how true that is but I’ve never been so glad to see a character die which it was so predictable she was going to die it was just a matter of when because she’s always running into danger without a care in the world good riddance
YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES DONT EVEN HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO. prolly coulda handled the situation a bit better tho instead of just trying to kill everyone he disagreed with
Well bellec was right! The templars and Asssassins NEVER gonna be at peace! In the modern day they still have war! So yeah bellec was right! In my opinion Arnol is my least favorite Assassin! Love unity gameplay but the story not so much!
@@wb6930In Rogue's defense, they had like 8 months to create an entire game. I believe that if they had the proper amount of time, they'd make a great story. If there's any AC game that needs a remake, it's probably 1 and Rogue is right behind it.
Pierre bellec should have been the main villain it made more sense than some fucking blacksmith who only appears like 10 minutes in the game to try and be some kind of a plot twist
Unpopular opinion i never liked the idea of Shay being the main villain as there was 0 build up minus him being Arno’s father’s killer there was nothing for Arno to find shay no lead or anything for that matter Arno was also young it makes more sense he would go after the man that murdered his adoptive father Killing Shay in the main game would waist his character honestly it would have made more sense if there was a DLC that would have us find shay but not kill him instead Arno and Shay have a talk where Arno learns about why Shay did what he did and he learns to let go off his vengeance becoming a better man where as we finally learn about Shay’s conclusion him having left the templars and raising his grandson
Fuck nah bellec shouldn’t have taken things into his owns hands, the assassins could’ve had a chance with peace between them and the templars but that’s iffy
OK, let’s look at this logically though you can see bellec survived the purge in rogue. He was the French soldier that was fighting with keesawagy. When they Attacked on fortress in the main town. “That’s the only village that was on fire. To kill one assassin. “ that’s clearly a reference to rogue. Bellec was scared and rightly, so the hunters are a huge threat and they’re still living in a dark time. While the colonial brotherhood may have been getting back on its feet, the hunters still existed. Do you think the templars know exactly what the assassins look like in unity and you don’t even do anything wrong, and how they fight with the assassins as well they’re a lot more skilled highly more trained that’s all thanks to Shay Patrick Cormack And then, if you paid attention to the Nexus, which is the VR, which added a ton more lore, they included the hunter proto call. A animus programs from direct hunters that jump into the animus to fight another animus assassin. Blecc didn’t want to risk the chance of another purge. And since he knew that this one was the daughter of the grandmaster of the French Templars. And they mentioned the old Gaurd, in unity also when Arno spies on the meeting your guard is definitely going to include hunters maybe even members of the Patrick family
a bigger problem is that both sides are scheming manipulators to achieve their goal, and they back opposite sides in many cases, which will eventually result in a proxy war in which the truce might be broken, which leads to the secret war
Bellec was blinded by revenge and a little bit of fanatism. But he was right only about one thing: You can not trust a Templar even though they have good intentions (Shay had a noble purpose but in the end he wanted to trigger a Revolution that could have killed thousand of innocent people). Mirabeau and DeLa Serre were good men (maybe Mirabeau was more a Bureaucrat than an Assassin) but they were too naive to believe that a truce would last.
Arno was too focused on that Templussy 🤟😔
I hope it was worth it
@@ADdre16prob is if he loved her that much
Bro was not locked in
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Real shit 😂😂
He shouldve been the final boss
Agreed
I argee
That would have been not only good for the story and also a nice call back to AC 1
Or the main character
@@inthecloudz1272 they got made another DLC for bellic
I would've liked to have seen a meeting between Bellec and Connor; he mentioned Connor rebuilding the American colonies, yet probably didn't know that Connor himself was similar to Arno in that he didn't outright hate the Templars and thought it was possible for them to coexist.
True, but he realized that peace wasn't possible.
Bellec said he’s a Connor fanboy and Connor should still be alive in Unity. We need this huge crossover game with Arno Shay and Connor.
True, but Shay would be too old for a fight. By the time of Dead Kings he would be 63-64, but then again, Germain was 68 when he fought Arno. He could potentially be the Grand Master of the American Rite.
@@finesthour97 I bet the sword of Eden gave Germain strength despite his old age. Assassins and Templars are no longer bound by human weakness with the pieces of Eden.
@@finesthour97I mean Altair was still kicking ass in his 60s same with Ezio apart from that he had been retired for a while and put his heart under strain when he would do such moves I don’t think it would be too much of a stretch to have shay still be active
Come on now dude Ubisoft don’t care about what the fans want all the good writers left after black flag
@@owenwright4927 we still have the guy who wrote ac2
Pierre wanted to be the Next Altair or Ezio and instead is closer to Abbas
According to Assassin’s Creed fandom Bellec was actually a veteran of the Seven Years’ War, who witnessed the Great Templar purge of the Assassins from 1757-1763 (the one that was aided by Shay’s destruction of the Colonial Brotherhood). Which is likely why he hates Templars with a burning passion. Also, the Parisian Brotherhood (Except Mirabeu and Bellec) were complete assholes, especially toward Arno
Correct
I think it was justified for the Parisian Brotherhood to dislike Arno. He constantly refused to return to them after each assigned mission. It is still crazy that they didn't kick him out after assassinating Lafreniere, which he did after listening to a dude he had never met before. Some people say Connor in AC3 trusts people way too fast, but Arno is even worse.
@@makkerman1074
To be fair to Arno, he was manipulated by Germain into thinking Lafreniere was an enemy. While Arno did act on his own constantly, you can’t really blame him for doing so considering the Parisian Brotherhood constantly had their heads up their asses during the game and didn’t do jack shit
@@captainprice2671 They're French of course they had their heads up there and weren't doing anything... Jokes aside, it's not that they weren't doing anything. It's that they were too busy to deal with Arno's love life. It's the French Revolution. The Parisian Brotherhood had their hands full. I don't blame the Brotherhood for not going on a wild goose chase while there's so many other things to prioritize compared to some conspiracy theory about their enemies who they have a truce with. While Bellec and Arno were in conflict about how to deal with the Templars, their mentor was actually dealing with the French Revolution and the challenges the Assassins were facing due to it. Now was just not the time to look for a fight with the Templars.
@@captainprice2671 same man, arbo was the only one in the brotherhood of Paris who was concerned about the German and what he represented against freedom during the French revolution while the creed or rather the council was only concerned with maintaining a position of power in the revolution and the brotherhood and they expelled Arno forever questioning the methods and trying to find the best way to deal with the real threat, bellec is the pure representation of the achilles creed and just seeing someone with a templar cross means killing first and asking questions later, the only one there that i'm sure altair would have pride is arno, the brotherhood of paris is the same brotherhood before the altair.
When Peirre was pointing the gun at Elise in the boss fight I was like NOOOO
Edit: thank you for the likes ❤️
Every time I replay it I think to myself maybe I can save her this time!
Great video as always!
For me, Bellec was blinded by fanaticism, very similar to how Roshan was blinded by dogma.
I love those characters because they really show the nuances and flaws of the creed. Would love to see a video like this covering Roshan next!
Pierre was also french-canadian, becoming an assassin in the north american colonies, probably trained by Achilles and company (who also had a very extremist view on the assassin´s creed, and probably brainwashed pierre into this way of thinking) and escaped the templar´s purge led by Haytham and his templars. so that may explain his radical position in the assassin-templar war.
It's easy to understand Bellec's hatred for the Templars because he had to flee the American colonies after Shay destroyed the Brotherhood.
And for all we know a young Bellec might have crossed paths with Shay, because Shay was storming French forts and encampments during the French and Indian War, and Bellec was an enlisted soldier with the French colonials.
So Shay's turn against the assassins would have been known to him as a huge betrayal. Then his own pupil, Arno's father got killed, again by Shay. Of course he didn't seem to know that, but the Templars had been a thorn on his side since the French and Indian War so he' never consider a truce.
The Assassins vs Templars war is a war where no one side is correct. The main antagonist of the first game of the series is not a templar, but the mentor of the assassin brotherhood. Both sides have morally good people and morally bad people just like any real life war.
A mentor whos mind was corrupted by the apple of eden . Its not as black and white as one good one bad or even none are bad it depends on what you belief. Should humanity be indoctrinated persecuted and controlled in order to gain peace and order or should we be free to find our own way . Id go with the latter
Al Mualim was a templar the whole time though
@@xtav2aI thought he was corrupted by the apple, not a templar.
@@the_epileptic_gamer1190 Robert literally says he’s the 10th templar in AC1. His journal has much evidence supporting the fact. His ideology is that of a templar. You can spot him dodging your questions many times in AC1 (if you played it) to avoid exposing himself. He barely ever disclosed any truth of the templars and lied to altair about what they wanted. The entire game is him setting things into motion so he can use the apple. The apple just pushed him over the edge
@@xtav2a alrighty. It's been years since I've played it
Yeah , he is a really good character.
But I bet that if AC Unity was finished as intended with the intended story , than I think we would have talked about every character of this game very differently and more positively.
It's amazing that even with the game being gutted , the characters are still good
Odd that Bellec is an Altair fan yet forgets who his wife was.
I don't think that the assassin's knew Altair's wife was a tempar or at least the assassin's in the future and onwards (except for the modern brotherhood)
I'm saying this right now... We need a video about Assassin's Creed 1's antagonist, Al Mualim, and how influential he was to the series. In most videos I've seen talking about AC main villains like Rodrigo, Cesare, Haytham, etc., we never hear anything about the franchise's first villain, and that's odd.
100% agree. I still like Al Mualim, even if he was a traitor lol. He's an intriguing character, I remember there was even some debate if he was just blind on one eye or actually a Sage, because he could handle the Apple of Eden so well for so long, and he could confound his opponents like a wizard. He seemed very wise and powerful, and mysterious
Oddly enough I am actually working on a series of assassins creed stories with a friend of mine and one of them involves a tale of a period of peace between the Assassins and Templars via two brothers who are the Mentor and Grand Master of the American Brotherhood and Rite respectively in the tail end of Wild West era.
It’s a future project called AC: Redemption and I’m personally really excited about doing it myself since exploring a truce period between the factions was always interesting to me
Can you please let me know when you release it?
@@Mansonisthename Of course! Would you like to know the title of the first story in the series so you have full context?
@@Kaijugan yes please!! I am an author too and your story sounds intriguing. Please tell me anything you can about it!
@@Mansonisthename The first story in the series is Assassin’s Creed: Outlaw on Fanfic net, there are also two spin off as well on my profile Dragon Emperor0
@@Mansonisthename It’s called Assassin’s Creed: Outlaw. It’s on Fanfic
I mean, he tried to be like altair fighting al mualim
But yeah he was still wrong, the order wasnt as corrupt as during ac1
Difference was Al Mualim was unfortunately corrupted by the apple where as Mirabou was trying to resolve the conflict between Assassins and Templars
The Levantine Templars were not corrupted. Were their methods questionable, yes but I would not call them corrupt. Even Altair said that their goals were noble.
it was actually way more corrupt lmfao rouge is a prime example of that the assassins in france had been working with philip and his bloodline since the fall of the templars the french order of assassins shown both in unity and rouge were a corrupted brotherhood
The master hath served us a new video
This was an amazing video, this is why i watch u, u teach us facts and give us ideas to go and research just for more facts
One thing I know when seeing this kind of character is that seeing the things he saw as an assassin can change a person good or bad. Pierre Bellec once said he saw the Templars destroy an entire town just to find one assassin. I’m beginning to wonder if he was the Assassin who was targeted. Coulda mess him up for life witnessing that event, leading him to his choice of “new assassin management.”
Interesting idea, that the target might've been him, that would explain his extreme views. We do see Templars don't care about the common people who get in their way... Cesare bombards Monteriggioni, that guy in AC1 in Damascus poisoned his guests at his party, in AC3 the Templars instigated the Boston massacre, it's a theme with the Templars.
In the game I always hated the way the French Brotherhood Council were. They just rubbed me the wrong way. Sure Arno was brash and arrogant but honestly if they should have expected this because he was fuelled by Revenge. They finally strip him of his rank and cast him out. When Arno finally rejoins the Brotherhood I think it’s when all of them are dead and the French Brotherhood needed him.
Bellec doesn't have an Irish accent, he has a west country accent, like Hagrid from HP.
Irish is Connor McGregor.
Scottish is Ground Keeper Willy from the Simpsons 🤙
@@2k4nt Americans don't seem to know the difference
I think he become obsessed with the brotherhood and become the very person he would hate I think it was the loss of his people that made him that way but I don't think any action purely based on emotions is good .
Not exactly related to the vid, but the missed potential in ac unity is insane, imagine if the parkour system had the that same style and flare whule still having the freedom and control of the ezio games, and the smothness of the kenway games, and so many more things coudve been way better, but ubisoft just had to be ubisoft.
I will always remember Pierre Bellec. Not just because of his classy attitude but for him showing what nationalism can do to you if you neglect people Infront of you. I don't believe that he should've killed the Mentor of that time as it would cause chaos in the leadership not peace. Look at other characters like Mordo from Doctor Strange or Kassegowasse from AC Rouge. These charcters where so stuck on tradition and hatred for adaptation and growth that it turned one evil (Mordo) and got the other killed (Kassegowasse). A pattern anyone?
Another W vid from one of the goats of assassin's creed youtube.
Love your video, and you should do how long you can last only using the hidden blade
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MAN
Imagine if we actually got to see Arno rejoin the brotherhood and reach the master assassin rank instead of finishing the game and his robes just….appear in your inventory.
Cool ass robes tho.
I have an idea (irrelevant to Unity). What if the bright tone of Syndicate is ‘caused’ by the young protagonists who want to change London for the better. Where as in the DLC (apart from the fact that it fits a more accurate tone of London etc) the protagonists are older and they struggle to achieve their goal. But one thing is for sure, it looks stunning (both game and DLC)
I understood what bellec was doing he wanted to rebuild the brotherhood which they haven't seen in 200 years as he said that to Arno but the methods he used they were wrong
Best side character in unity
3:01 Elise's gun goes weeeee
This is why l think this game had a reaaly good story, despite the fact that some people think it wasn't good enough. The characters' backstories give this game so much depth. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Playing assassin's creed unity in french with subtitles is so much better than in English.
Thank you for this video, since I haven't played this game in a while and I didn't really look in too deeply I didn't really understand Bellec's motives but this video helped a lot to see his view point. I def have to replay this game again and it's most def an underrated AC game
Neat, a video on a character rarely ever talked about in the grand scheme of things.
Yooo five minutes, love your vids
I would like you to make playtrough for ac games or other games. I would be happy to see someone on UA-cam who doesn't yap all the time but actually knows what he is talking about and actually knows how to play the game.
So it can be said that bellec was the germain of the assassin’s brotherhood and vice versa.
Make a video of the best post-death corridor conversations that leave behind serious philosophical questions.
I was waiting for video like this ❤
Of course my man was right
Dude he was right. The Templars principles clash hard against the Assassins principles. That alone is enough to be fire and water. The Templars literally want to take the power off people, no matter if they are plebs or royalty, because "they know better". The Assassins just disagree and they fight, not because they hate the men behind the masks but because eachother threatens the others way of life.
Arno was just too busy with his own feelings towards Elise and her father to think about the damn principles held by both creeds. It really surprises me how a leader of the Assassins can agree on helping a Templar to have her revenge, even if it is against other Templars. My enemies enemy is not always a friend. In this case, the Assassins had an extreme weak leadership to even consider a proposition with the Templars.
One could say that Altairs wife was a Templar, and they would be right. She "was" a Templar. We can clearly see she went through a whole process of abandoning them Templars principles and embracing the Assassins creed.
In hindsight, I personally think any truce between Templars and Assassins is due to a very weak minded leadership, because as long as both creeds hold their principles, they cannot be friends and even more, they will fight until one or the other are completely destroyed. That would be the ideal process anyway. But I really like how the writers achieved this "grey" zone in the morality, just enough to get players siding with one creed or the other.
Cool
9 mins w video love ur vids.
I’m looking for players to play with on PlayStation , Really want to do some Heists and missions in Unity
"In the army, making peace with the enemy is called treason."
"...no, it's called an armistice. Are you sure you're French?"
Definitely should’ve been the final boss, where I think he should’ve been the one helping Arno hunt down other Templars when he got pushed out, lying to him, and working with him and Elise. Also, instead of trying to frame a Elise for the mentors murder he should’ve framed Rui for the murder. then finally at the end where the big blast happens and Arno thinks Elise is dead, but she survives and go to leave but she’s suddenly shot in the back, killing her, as bellic demands for the sword of Eden and tries to get Arno to join him. Arno in a rage takes the sword and uses it power and fights and finally kills bellic in a few fight sequences and sees the truth that he killed the mentor as well
Man I forgot who this guy was, proceeded to search up assasins creed full stealth and got the entire catalogue
Noice vid 💯
One thing tho
I thought no one found out that it was shay who killed arno's father?
Because if bellec knew why didn't he chase shay?
Or do you mean since he was "killed" bellec knew it was a templar who did it?
W video bro love ya❤
Irish? my man, Bellec's Accent was closer to Bristol/West Midlands in England, rather than Ireland!
He essentially tried to do what shay should’ve done. Except the french assassins didn’t need reforming.
A note, just because he's an assassin mentor, or any mentor doesn't mean he's good
Yo our great mentor and master assassin, do you have a discord?? And great video
I used too but I eventually deleted it due to how toxic it became. I may consider creating a new one again someday we'll see :) and thank you!
@@masterassassin791 id be ready to be a mod to minimize toxicity as much as possible and create a safe place
Me and bellec have the same name
It’s trend, in ac games, we fight our masters.
The only problem i have is that when you beat bellec, you get his outfit, but you dont have his robes
I think callin Bellec is Nationalist is somewhat off. Nationalism is more of putting the priority of your country or group above others. I would call him a Jingoist. Jingoism is actively destroying other groups for your’s to succeed. Jingoism is just more radical and aggressive.
I can understand Bellec's reasonings, but I do truly believe that peace could have been found within the story of Unity as I feel that Germain was really the only Templar in Unity who believed in the cause, maybe with the exception of Marie Levesque and possibly Louis-michel Le Peletier, but even then I feel that they agreed with Germain perhaps out of fear due to how much power he had. But others such as Sivert, Le Roi des Thunes, Rouille, and La Touché were more following Germain for personal gain. Hell, La Touché seemed to not even believe in the cause, so if Germain was killed either before the events of the game or even if Arno acted brashly and killed him when he first met the man, I do believe that the others would scatter or fall in line behind Élise, which then I feel a more lasting peace would have happened, sure, maybe not forever but perhaps as long as Élise and Arno lived and that's if Bellec had still killed Mirabeau. I think if Bellec had gone rogue, he'd have been a huge asset to the brotherhood, and, of course, Arno would likely not have been exiled from the brotherhood.
Also, I've been curious about this: Did Arno get reinstated into the brotherhood, or did he too sort of become a rogue assassin, but rather than against the brotherhood, helped them. I'm not familiar with the rules of exiled assassins.
@@Foxster_13 That's how i been feeling about it as well. Also, to answer you question my brôther: After Arno recovered a Piece of Eden and (partially) single handedly stopped Napoleon's plans at the time, he got officially accepted back into the Brotherhood (off-screen) and eventually got the rank of master (off-screen as well), he also basically become truly devoted to The Credô after losing Élise
Please do a ac brotherhood survive challenge
Bellec, much like the rest of the French Brotherhood, are traditionalists. If it meant killing the mentor to frame a templar to take care of a perceived threat, Bellec would have done it. What separates him from the rest is that he has an extremist almost religious level of devotion to the brotherhood even by traditionalist standards.
My favorite AC
Bellec is kind of like Jet from Avatar The Last Airbender. Bellec didn’t trust the Templars and Jet didn’t trust the Fire Nation and both went to extreme lengths moving forward.
Imagine if you could choose to join bellec
Still the best AC since AC Brotherhood.
Well, it was established before in AC3 that every truth the Assassins and Templars have had has always been temporary with Unity showing an example as to why that is. They're just too different. They both want peace but the how, the journey and methods to it, are very opposites.
They definitely made his stance understandable. It would have been hard for Arno to do what he did. I mean, he was his mentor and his point of view is completely understandable.
You forgot his other two examples. Monteriggioni was destroyed because Ezio tried to kill Borgia. I'm not saying it wouldn't have happened even if he got killed, but Cesare could've destroyed the town at any point if he new a dangerous assassin lived there. Or two. Actually, an entire family.
And Achilles was a tough mentor who didn't see himself in the wrong. He was failed by Shay, one of his bretheren and inadvertedly made a monster.
He wouldn’t listen to shay shay was completely traumatised after the Lisbon earthquake happened when he took the piece of Eden and in the end, he admitted shay was right
Bellec for me was like an Assassin version of Germain. Both wanted to revive the former glory that was lost from their respective orders. Both are willing to go the extra mile to purge the other.
Bellec doesn’t have an Irish accent it’s a West Country English accent
everyone probably speaking in british accents was either using unused assets from the previous games to save production or they made the decision that everyone speaking in french accents would be somehow racist to french people...ik its a game based in france but its the backwards world we live in today
I wish that this fight had a choice, instead of dead kings dlc, the dlc should've been a choice, where the whole story could change if you chose Bellecks side
bros accent is 1000% definetley not irish, it's a west country english accent through and through
Arno : *Absolutely focused on saving Elise*
Elise : Hmm… How can I get killed faster?
Only things I disagreed with Bellec on is the fact that he killed Mirabeau, and his stance to never trust a templar.
Wasn't Maria (Altairs wife) also templar?
Yes
The thing is Pier escaped the colonial purge which is bad. Because the colonial brotherhood was just infested by Altiar, Aboss, and Macandall's teachings. Pier's own words "We're not an order, we're an army." The problem with that is that an army has no creed, it just fights, kills, and conquers without considering the consequences or the big picture about why they fight. It's why in the actual history books they were sent out to die against the Mongols and if any survived got disbanded by the nations and authorities of the known world same with the templars. It's the reason why Shay's plight attracted the Templars. Why Altiar ordering the strike on the Templars in Paris eventually resulted in his own order's demise by reigniting war with the Templars in the first place. Why Abass and Macadal corrupted the Assassins. And why Macandal/ two whole brotherhoods fed by his teachings ended with a mass violation of all three tenets of the creed. It's like Jay Garek said, "Without limits we become villains." And the creed is an order's limit. It's why an army has commands rather than tenants. Tenants keep people on the straight and narrow, for an army that's detrimental. As by necessity you must be prepared to eventually sacrifice, disregard, and let go of everything for victory. Even the innocent, stealth, and safety of one's comrades. Which goes against the Creed.
The problem with Bellec, like every character in this game, is that they lack any real depth and characterisation making them all more or less macchiettes. Consequently, it is complex to speculate on the basis of nothing, especially if the story of game is incomplete and rushed
He was right about the peace only being temporary, but it wasnt really peace at all, it was Arno working with his girlfriend who happened to be a templar to kill other templars. Killing the leaders of the assassins' and trying to kill elise was just foolish on his part.
Bellec ruined the peace treaty between Assassin and Templars, Bellec let his personal destroy the truce
The real title “was Pierre Bellec’s fight needed” me personally no.
Please do adewale
Bellec has the uk Bristol accent not Irish lol
Same as Blackbeard
Assassins Creed needs to go back to making proper Assassins Creed games. All the franchise needs to do is to focus on Assassins and the Creed again, as well as moving forward in time with the modern day, going back to the old games is nice but we need something better to look forward to.
He was spot on in my opinion
Pierre was a fascist more interested in putting the assassins into power than carrying out what they were formed to fight against (granted, I sympathize with viewing the measures the assassins take against the templars as a series of half measures, but he went entirely the wrong way with it and in his quest to destroy the templars ultimately made him more like them). I even sympathize with ridding the assassins of their leader ship (albeit to take a decentralized approach to their mission)
The piss pot guy was right Arno is such a spineless character scared to put Elise in her place she just blames him for everything after he already feels bad about her father she acts as if her dad wasn’t like a father to Arno either she knows Arno loves her and she uses that against him for her dangerous revenge plot also I’m hearing in the lore she cheats on Arno not sure how true that is but I’ve never been so glad to see a character die which it was so predictable she was going to die it was just a matter of when because she’s always running into danger without a care in the world good riddance
who here would've sided with Bellec if they had a choice?
I want to see what confederate assassins do in a AC civil war game
YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES DONT EVEN HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO. prolly coulda handled the situation a bit better tho instead of just trying to kill everyone he disagreed with
Well bellec was right! The templars and Asssassins NEVER gonna be at peace! In the modern day they still have war! So yeah bellec was right! In my opinion Arnol is my least favorite Assassin! Love unity gameplay but the story not so much!
Right or not he was the only interesting caracter in unity in my opinion
He definitely did not have an Irish accent
Low key, the assassins in Unity and Rogue were so shady
Because both were badly written. Nothing more than that
@@unicorntomboy9736I guess so, writing really took a hit post-Desmond era
@@wb6930In Rogue's defense, they had like 8 months to create an entire game. I believe that if they had the proper amount of time, they'd make a great story. If there's any AC game that needs a remake, it's probably 1 and Rogue is right behind it.
Pierre bellec should have been the main villain it made more sense than some fucking blacksmith who only appears like 10 minutes in the game to try and be some kind of a plot twist
Imagine if it was shay being the villain
Unpopular opinion i never liked the idea of Shay being the main villain as there was 0 build up minus him being Arno’s father’s killer there was nothing for Arno to find shay no lead or anything for that matter Arno was also young it makes more sense he would go after the man that murdered his adoptive father
Killing Shay in the main game would waist his character honestly it would have made more sense if there was a DLC that would have us find shay but not kill him instead Arno and Shay have a talk where Arno learns about why Shay did what he did and he learns to let go off his vengeance becoming a better man where as we finally learn about Shay’s conclusion him having left the templars and raising his grandson
Fuck nah bellec shouldn’t have taken things into his owns hands, the assassins could’ve had a chance with peace between them and the templars but that’s iffy
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OK, let’s look at this logically though you can see bellec survived the purge in rogue. He was the French soldier that was fighting with keesawagy. When they Attacked on fortress in the main town. “That’s the only village that was on fire. To kill one assassin. “ that’s clearly a reference to rogue. Bellec was scared and rightly, so the hunters are a huge threat and they’re still living in a dark time. While the colonial brotherhood may have been getting back on its feet, the hunters still existed. Do you think the templars know exactly what the assassins look like in unity and you don’t even do anything wrong, and how they fight with the assassins as well they’re a lot more skilled highly more trained that’s all thanks to Shay Patrick Cormack
And then, if you paid attention to the Nexus, which is the VR, which added a ton more lore, they included the hunter proto call. A animus programs from direct hunters that jump into the animus to fight another animus assassin. Blecc didn’t want to risk the chance of another purge. And since he knew that this one was the daughter of the grandmaster of the French Templars. And they mentioned the old Gaurd, in unity also when Arno spies on the meeting your guard is definitely going to include hunters maybe even members of the Patrick family
a bigger problem is that both sides are scheming manipulators to achieve their goal, and they back opposite sides in many cases, which will eventually result in a proxy war in which the truce might be broken, which leads to the secret war
Bellec was right!
Bellec was blinded by revenge and a little bit of fanatism. But he was right only about one thing: You can not trust a Templar even though they have good intentions (Shay had a noble purpose but in the end he wanted to trigger a Revolution that could have killed thousand of innocent people).
Mirabeau and DeLa Serre were good men (maybe Mirabeau was more a Bureaucrat than an Assassin) but they were too naive to believe that a truce would last.