@@sudhakarrao4907 Agreed. Full credit to Jaishankar. Also, Sushmaji was sick which was not made public, I guess, necessitating travel by Mr. Modi. Modi ji hugging and fawning, especially calling Obama by first name was a blunder.
Mr. Thapar should stop speculative "baiting" - these high-level government honchos are too clever to fall into that trap - we've seen it before. Loved how Mr. Menon persistently and elegantly pushed his own POV [with examples] and sidetracked all the sensationalism. btw, 'behind the scenes' is where all the big-time international political deals happen... always!! The public attention is diverted = fed mush through media :-)
It seemed to me as Karan Thapar getting clarifications (not baiting) on speculations by western media from Shivshankar Menon. As for, these high-level government honchos being too clever --- i suggest an article by IPS N C Asthana on "The Wire" itself, titled -- "The Civil Services Have Failed to Deliver and It's Time to Reconsider Their Importance."
@@rajdeepsarkar8113 you didn't even watched it whole, a journalist has to rub you off to get you going around a certain delicate dissection that he wants from his esteemed panel's side, he is there to make all factions of society understand in depth, what's there at stake.
After listening him I again feel more indebted to sardar patel as he kept civil services intact despite it had a British legacy. What a stream of clear thought with resolve determination n solution. No where in popular media I get to see such thoughtful opinions. As long as civil service is impartial, in my opinion india can glide through any difficulties
Fun fact: His grandfather was India's first foreign secretary and his maternal uncle was also a notable foreign secretary, both of whom have played key roles in India's diplomacy.
Dont you think people like menon are very rare? I still dont agree with the fact why an ias is more competant for finance secretary post in comparison with the person who research 30+years in finance and economy?
@@8_adityasinghrawat319 I believe he would be more competent but at d same time he would be adamant n reluctant too on few things which he may not like n govt. would be left red faced. So there better utilization is in d form of economic advisor. Remember govt. wants to retain power too n for that a generalist is better option to move a policy from file to fields..u may still disagree but I think so☺
Karan Thapar will do well in future interviews to let his guest complete what he or she has to say. Frankly it is quite annoying to hear Karan Thapar’s interruptions, especially when Shivshankar Menon was articulating nuances. It was quite a treat listening to Shivshankar Menon though.
@@AmreshTripathi - yes, which is why I sometimes think the word interview is misleading. Seems more like an attempt to steer narratives and opinions than understand the issue at hand. Barkha dutt - of course I’m aware and follow her programs as well. And I do think she is far more vocal is pushing talking points and agendas that are in line with her views than doing any “unbiased” debating.
This was like a taut chess game between a journalistic need to paint things black and white and a diplomatic need to keep things ambiguous and in the balance. Mr. Thapar had an initial +2 lead with the "war" and "invasion" concession, but couldn't penetrate the black fort and ended up resigning. 😀
Modi Government has been doing excellent job for India from 2014 . Foreign diplomacy has become more matured and stronger. It is purely visionary government. 🙏
@@antxaveace I wish to see someone like Jayalalitha emerges again in TN to run off Stalin with his mundu off like Jayalalitha did to his misogynistic father, Karunanidhi.
The most honest and balanced discussion on the issue. “We must not underestimate the Russian need for agency when it comes to Asia” well said, Russia could help mediate talks between China and India. Also “Russia can not replace the west for us” 👏
Russia is in China's pocket whichever you dice it...this is Indian's folly that Russia will mediate between India and China. Mediate it will but the terms of India's surrender to China..as has been the case in last two years...when they gave India wrong info about China's intent on Military Exercise in Tibet. Not sure when India will see the obvious.
Good interview Mr. Thapar. Mr. Menon spoke well as a seasoned diplomate. In international politics, what's lacking is calling a spade a spade. If India or another country succumb to US or EU pressure and does not address Russia's legitimate concerns of bringing NATO at its doorsteps, that would not be very intelligent. No permanent friends are permanent foes; countries make foreign policies based on their existential needs and long-term objectives. India should talk to China, and both of these most populous countries on the planet earth should work on the d-escalation of this crisis before its gets more dangerous. There are no winners if the conflict gets out of hand and Russia introduces more lethal weapons in NATO in Ukraine or if the battle spreads from conventional to semi-conventional weapons use and war grows to a larger scale. NATO and the USA are in an avoidable situation, simply by ensuring that Putin's backyard is safe and there will not be any NATO missiles in Kyiv. Russia had legitimate concerns about Ukraine joining NATO; no western government had the moral courage to address that concern. Instead, under the US leadership, it made it worse and put Putin in a closed alley to act in an evil, violent and inhumane way. I think India is very close to Russia and the USA; it has a role to play in preventing inflation and economic fall out of the present crisis. Condemning Putin's actions is the right thing to do, and it does not mean that India is abandoning relations with Russia. It would instead earn India respect and the place of an honest broker to find a reasonable escape route for Russia. And give the USA and its allies the reality check; respecting Russia's legitimate concerns is the only way forward. You don't corner nuclear weapon state countries because the consequences can be unimaginable.
This made things clear for me. Neither could I trust western media nor Indian media. This gave a perfect clear picture. This war and what happening is actually taking my time.
For such a senior journalist, Mr Thapar often comes across as an amateur (tabloid) journalist in this interview. The petty baiting, the constant interruption and just the way he conducts himself, give one the impression that Mr Thapar is completely out his league here. Contrast that with Mr Menon’s dignified presence, thoughtful responses and just overall professionalism, you wonder if he agreed to sit down with the crabby Thapar as a favor! That said, this is an important interview and a perspective that you don’t get from the western media. Mr Menons experience and insight are invaluable.
Foreign policy cannot be formulated and implemented through the media. Much of it is conducted secretly and behind the scenes.Thapar should appreciate this and lower his sights and not poke his nose into areas beyond his relevance or competence.
Likes of K Thapar in the family rule days had power to formulate foreign policy of India for the govt of that day in return for goodies. Now their crib is, they are no more part of governance n day dreaming to good old days
no previous interview has exposed the super western-media bias in Karan Thapar as this one. Mr. Menon is the ideal picture of practical foreign diplomacy in response to his unnecessary paranoia.
Firstly, coming to the genesis of The Wire.(phobic behaviour) It was founded in 2015 by Siddharth Varadarajan, Sidharth Bhatia, and MK Venu[1]. Mr. Varadarajan, a US citizen of Indian descent, is the former editor of The Hindu. The Hindu is well known for its inclination towards communist ideology[2]. However, under the leadership of Mr. Varadarajan, biased printing of news in The Hindu reached a level that its own board of the directors accused him of diverging from the core values of The Hindu. Now you can imagine the biasedness level of The Wire, as even the well known Hinduphobic and communist Mr. N Ram (owner of The Hindu group) found him biased. During the tenure of Mr. Varadajan at The Hindu, the most part of the newspapers were filled with political news. His political link with the Congress was so strong that a journalist of The Hindu named Shalini Singh broke the news of Vadra scam in 2012 but it has taken seven long months to The Hindu to carry out the story[3]. The such exaggeration of biasedness begin to sopil the image of The Hindu. Also, Mr. Subramanian Swamy filed a case in Delhi high court to challenge the appointment of Mr. Varadarajan as the chief editor of The Hindu mentioning his US citizenship. Due to these growing controversies, board of the directors of The Hindu decided to oust him from the editorial board of the Hindu. To pursue his dream of spreading hatred towards a particular ideology and support his political fathers, he founded The Wire with Sidharth Bhatia, a well known hinduphobic, and MK Venu, his friend and former journalist of The Hindu. The story does not end here. Mr. Varadarajan’s wife, Nadini Sundar, professor of Socilogy at Delhi School of Economics, is in contact with Naxals as revealed by an arrested naxal, named Panda[4]. So, these are the facts and now it is up to you to decide whether The Wire is biased or unbiased. Thanks for reading!
@@rohana7646 it is also BJP propaganda. NO media is free even druv rathee , deshbhakt , news laundry , Elvis yadav all are propaganda with ulterior motives . THE Print is quit fair I would say
Without watching the whole interview, the monsoon frogs are here to cackle, no gives a fuck about Modi, in this dissection of course of war, modi is guided by executive forces at his helm, thats the Indian deep state, and they are and will remain more knowledgeable and profound around their decision making than modi.
This is sample of our diplomats...we know what is our line...you and even US can not cross it..Don't forget..this is Grt Chanakasya land..bow to Menon sir..
Mr Thapar should acknowledge the intellect he is interacting with and let the gentleman finish a sentence. His constant interruptions are nothing but annoyance.
I saw videos of Russian troops entering Kharkiv, the second largest city of Ukraine on and the protestors circling the troops with Ukrainian flags. The Russian military could have attacked them easily but they didnt, they just stood there. The 40 mile Russian convoy to Kiev is also moving slow. I feel that Russia is strategically playing safe and slow as for now. But it seems that Putin is hellbent on occupying Kyiv at all cost. It's only a matter of time when Russian blitzkrieg would go in full throttle capturing the whole of East , South and the capital. He did the same thing while annexing Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.
Sai Nair. You may be right but I feel they know it would be pretty futile. If you look at all the recent American campaigns in the Middle East, you could say , they won every one of them but Amrica has never won the peace in any one of these countries. They have left a legacy of hate everywhere. Just as it is good policy to live in peace with your neighbours, countries have to live in peace and friendship both with their immediate and distant neighbours. In a globalised world , wars bring misery to everybody, every nation.
A blitzkieg or a shock and awe approach has nothing for Russia and they know it. The last thing they want on their border is the instability of a civil war, and that's what they wanted to stop, as Mr. Menon pointed out. A typically American approach (as in Iraq) destroying infrastructure with heavy weapons and airstrikes, with no regard for civilian casualties, would result in the very antithesis of stability. They have no intention of occupying the country, they have simply not enough troops for the purpose. That is why they will be soft and slow all the way. Experience, both first and second hand proves that an occupation will be a disaster. Killing civilians is the best way to make resistance real.
Mr. Shivshankar played a fantastic role in handling the genocide of the Tamil people in Srilanka! Just abet the SL govt to go on a killing spree. What an expert, always pleasure to hear!
One other aspect that i wish KT had asked... of the not so subtle US overthrow of a clearly elected govt in 2014 in Ukraine? Could that have been the start of all that we are seeing today..
Karan Thapar and his class just should not interview people like SS Menon... Thapar and his class just gets schooled by them live. Thapar is so dependant on hypothetical situations for constructing his questions to a man who has vast experience in seeing through all the crap and being objective. Thapar might be good at Debate, but Shri. Menon is a seasoned diplomat.
A valuable time and experience of an intelligent Guest wasted by an arrogant, irritable, all- knowing and hypothesis filled 😎 mind of Mr Thapar. He would not allow Mr Menon to complete a sentence leaving us at bay as to what's there . Thapar comes with an agenda and insists that others tore his line. He should allow the guest to put his views, logic and reasons ,but we are denied that valuable part because Thapar objects/ interests midway.
Vinash’s train of thought is with Sanghis . And you vinash fails to comprehend that your icon choukidhar and his polices are nothing to be commended . Your perception turns ultimately to be destructive VINASH
A interesting interview. Seems more a battle of intelligence and views between Thapar and Menon. You need to ensure that it is India first - always! Self reliance is key. The Ukraine war is awful but look at history- the West servicing its needs - it tends to forget history and that too conveniently. Upshot the war should end and India help minds meet between the Ukraine and Russia
Dear Mr Thappar, i have always been fascinated by your questioning and interview techniques, but one of the main issue that i have seen emanating from your tactic is that you just don't have that elan in you to accept the opposite guy i.e. the interviewee is also a substantially intelligent, eloquent, erudite person and oftentimes i have seen you seem to feel 'threatrned' by this that u try to demonstrate your intellectual prowess by really uncalled for interjections and almost choking the flow of thought of the the person you are interviewing. If hat is, and we can also argue it is a part of your strategy, i get the impression, as part of the audience that it is not working.. So as Bertie Wooster would have said, 'less of it' ! Ofcourse Menon was not adept and dusolaulyed such character in his response despite being interrupted, which clearly helped show what a great person he is.. But the session was fantastic and really we all know your style will not change but listening fully too is a good strategy..what say?
But we had a Russia/NATO agreement on the ground of cooperation and restrictions of troop deployment on both sides, and Russia has violated this agreement again and again, for example by stationing medium range Missiles in the Kaliningrad enclave. Only after 2014 and the annexation of Crimea has NATO deployed more troops, and was committed to invest a greater amount of resources in Central Europe, and there was not even a thought about the deployment of nuclear weapons on the territories of Ukraine, that's why the Cuba as a reference is illegitimate.
8:53 - is it just me or do other also notice the KT has is hand reaching out & ready to interrupt everytime the guest begins to speak. does he even listen to the answer and understand the response?!?
If you study the invasions of Russia or the Soviet Union in the past ,you will soon realize that there were always logistics issues which cropped up right through the duration of Russia be it Napoleon Bonaparte's invasion on 1812 or Hitler's invasion in 1941 ,what happened is so vast was the expanse of land that the invading armies were always falling short of spare parts for tanks or cannons or any other war machinery needed to carry on the war as quickly as possible,the same is happening now even though Ukraine is very small compared in size to Russia
Shiva Shankar Menon has correctly portrayed India's diplomatic response to the Russo-Ukranian conflict as the voice of reason and good sense and an honest party to broker peace. As is the tradition pursuing an independent foreign policy based on national interests is the best bet to a safer world
Looking at the performance of Russian military equipment in the Ukraine war, we have a lot to worry about if this is the 'superpower' we are reliant on for our supplies.
It was toughest interview for Mr thapar, he faced an experienced Diplomat
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""Modiji handled Ukraine crisis well"". For saying so, Mr. Thapar is not going to call Shivashankar Menon again for the interview!.
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excellent analysis
@@sudhakarrao4907 Agreed. Full credit to Jaishankar. Also, Sushmaji was sick which was not made public, I guess, necessitating travel by Mr. Modi.
Modi ji hugging and fawning, especially calling Obama by first name was a blunder.
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Mr. Thapar should stop speculative "baiting" - these high-level government honchos are too clever to fall into that trap - we've seen it before. Loved how Mr. Menon persistently and elegantly pushed his own POV [with examples] and sidetracked all the sensationalism.
btw, 'behind the scenes' is where all the big-time international political deals happen... always!! The public attention is diverted = fed mush through media :-)
It seemed to me as Karan Thapar getting clarifications (not baiting) on speculations by western media from Shivshankar Menon. As for, these high-level government honchos being too clever --- i suggest an article by IPS N C Asthana on "The Wire" itself, titled -- "The Civil Services Have Failed to Deliver and It's Time to Reconsider Their Importance."
Leading hypothetical questions are foolish? Thapar should give room for the guests to expound their ideas.
Thapar will not change. He is still wagging his tail for the gandhi family
@@rajdeepsarkar8113 you didn't even watched it whole, a journalist has to rub you off to get you going around a certain delicate dissection that he wants from his esteemed panel's side, he is there to make all factions of society understand in depth, what's there at stake.
Thapar loves to trow his weight around while Mr menon is very balanced
After listening him I again feel more indebted to sardar patel as he kept civil services intact despite it had a British legacy. What a stream of clear thought with resolve determination n solution. No where in popular media I get to see such thoughtful opinions. As long as civil service is impartial, in my opinion india can glide through any difficulties
Fun fact: His grandfather was India's first foreign secretary and his maternal uncle was also a notable foreign secretary, both of whom have played key roles in India's diplomacy.
"civil services intact"?😂
Don't we all know what civil servants have been reduced to these days?
@@senguptasayn yes but still d steel frame has its core value intact although rusting has started
Dont you think people like menon are very rare?
I still dont agree with the fact why an ias is more competant for finance secretary post in comparison with the person who research 30+years in finance and economy?
@@8_adityasinghrawat319 I believe he would be more competent but at d same time he would be adamant n reluctant too on few things which he may not like n govt. would be left red faced. So there better utilization is in d form of economic advisor. Remember govt. wants to retain power too n for that a generalist is better option to move a policy from file to fields..u may still disagree but I think so☺
Mr Shivshankar Menon's perspectives are incredibly insightful (as usual)!
Incredibly illogical....
Nothing - as a policy - is an insight!!
Wonderful, balanced & thoughtful comments by Mr Menon !!
As usual, Karan was ,at his idiotic best !!
For sure .... he normally gets a yes man to interview ... this time with Menon ... Karan has miscalculated .... his boses won't be happy with him.
Karan Thapar will do well in future interviews to let his guest complete what he or she has to say. Frankly it is quite annoying to hear Karan Thapar’s interruptions, especially when Shivshankar Menon was articulating nuances. It was quite a treat listening to Shivshankar Menon though.
+1 I had the same thoughts about Thapar. Why cann’t they F shut up and listen ?
They need to drive the interview according to their narrative, if you find him irritating you should see Barkha Dutt..
@@AmreshTripathi - yes, which is why I sometimes think the word interview is misleading. Seems more like an attempt to steer narratives and opinions than understand the issue at hand.
Barkha dutt - of course I’m aware and follow her programs as well. And I do think she is far more vocal is pushing talking points and agendas that are in line with her views than doing any “unbiased” debating.
This was like a taut chess game between a journalistic need to paint things black and white and a diplomatic need to keep things ambiguous and in the balance. Mr. Thapar had an initial +2 lead with the "war" and "invasion" concession, but couldn't penetrate the black fort and ended up resigning. 😀
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Excellent review 👍
Because Mr. Menon had nothing to say - and ‘Nothing’ is India’s policy.
@@deccanheart diplomacy is often saying a lot by saying nothing.
What of the Ukrainian people's wish to join EU and perhaps NATO? How do you square that circle Mr Menon? He was not even challenged hard enough.
It is absolutely treat to listen these two gentlemen...
Modi Government has been doing excellent job for India from 2014 . Foreign diplomacy has become more matured and stronger. It is purely visionary government. 🙏
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Modi did well to allow JAISHANKAR to do what he does phenomenally well.
Karan not seems to be happy with what Menon has said... he thought there will be negative comment on Modi govt but that did not happen !!! so sad
He was actually humiliated. Loved it.
Goodness, let Mr Shivshankar Menon talk!
Very fine interview. Enlightened listening to Mr Menon. So knowledgeable, well balanced, far sighted and receptive.
Too good . Worth listening to Mr Shiv Shankar Menon -Ex Foreign Secretary . (IAS ) 👍👍
What a learned man ! Pure reflection of an educated indian - Mr Menon 🙏
Mr. Menon knows exactly how to dismantle speculative allegations
Karan said yogi is going to fail this time but after election Karan did not talk about uther pradesh
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... everybody across the world knows how the disciple of Adi Vaidyanath , Yogi won the election, nonsensical.
@@antxaveace Yeah, like that fake Stalin did?
@@antxaveace I wish to see someone like Jayalalitha emerges again in TN to run off Stalin with his mundu off like Jayalalitha did to his misogynistic father, Karunanidhi.
Karan thapar seems so sad internally when he got answer that India and Modi govt handled this crisis very well
I congratulate PM Modi on India’s stand on Ukrain.
Good conversation. The guest was head and shoulders above Karan, who has the tendency to use more words than are necessary.
Menon is a brilliant man it's always fascinating listening to his thought process
He is also rational and cool-headed. A proper diplomat. It is good that diplomats aere involved.
The most honest and balanced discussion on the issue. “We must not underestimate the Russian need for agency when it comes to Asia” well said, Russia could help mediate talks between China and India. Also “Russia can not replace the west for us” 👏
Russia is in China's pocket whichever you dice it...this is Indian's folly that Russia will mediate between India and China. Mediate it will but the terms of India's surrender to China..as has been the case in last two years...when they gave India wrong info about China's intent on Military Exercise in Tibet. Not sure when India will see the obvious.
Watched it for the second time. Once again applause 👏 for Ambassador Menon's firm and diplomatic handling of Karan "Butting-in" Thapar.
Brilliant interview as usual... Very insightful..
This conversation really helps us acknowledge the subtlety of international affairs and the role of Indian diplomats. Peace is the only way forward!
This is the quality of India's National Security Advisors.
It is to our eternal misfortune NSA does not formulate the foreign policy,- which is ad hoc and erratic at the best of time.
Nice interview Karan. Mr. Menon is so clear in his thought process and assessment. Brilliant mind to be proud of.👍🏻
Respect Mr menon as my physics teacher use to say prove it and I will take it
This is the first headline by The Wire praising Modi Govt. How come they published it?
Because the diplomats advised caution, probably. Also driven by self interest rather than anything else.
Thank you!!enjoyed this programme!
Not the first time, it's irritating how Karan keeps trying to push a point of view down the throat of a guest. Indian anchors are obsessed with China.
they need to be.
the media can't sit back and pretend China is not a constant ever present threat to India.
Good interview Mr. Thapar. Mr. Menon spoke well as a seasoned diplomate. In international politics, what's lacking is calling a spade a spade. If India or another country succumb to US or EU pressure and does not address Russia's legitimate concerns of bringing NATO at its doorsteps, that would not be very intelligent. No permanent friends are permanent foes; countries make foreign policies based on their existential needs and long-term objectives. India should talk to China, and both of these most populous countries on the planet earth should work on the d-escalation of this crisis before its gets more dangerous. There are no winners if the conflict gets out of hand and Russia introduces more lethal weapons in NATO in Ukraine or if the battle spreads from conventional to semi-conventional weapons use and war grows to a larger scale. NATO and the USA are in an avoidable situation, simply by ensuring that Putin's backyard is safe and there will not be any NATO missiles in Kyiv. Russia had legitimate concerns about Ukraine joining NATO; no western government had the moral courage to address that concern. Instead, under the US leadership, it made it worse and put Putin in a closed alley to act in an evil, violent and inhumane way. I think India is very close to Russia and the USA; it has a role to play in preventing inflation and economic fall out of the present crisis. Condemning Putin's actions is the right thing to do, and it does not mean that India is abandoning relations with Russia. It would instead earn India respect and the place of an honest broker to find a reasonable escape route for Russia. And give the USA and its allies the reality check; respecting Russia's legitimate concerns is the only way forward. You don't corner nuclear weapon state countries because the consequences can be unimaginable.
great sir india needs muslims like u
@@ayushmishra6575 Thanks!
This made things clear for me. Neither could I trust western media nor Indian media. This gave a perfect clear picture. This war and what happening is actually taking my time.
Listening him gives assurance that we are in safe hands. He is very clear and open on every aspect.
For such a senior journalist, Mr Thapar often comes across as an amateur (tabloid) journalist in this interview. The petty baiting, the constant interruption and just the way he conducts himself, give one the impression that Mr Thapar is completely out his league here. Contrast that with Mr Menon’s dignified presence, thoughtful responses and just overall professionalism, you wonder if he agreed to sit down with the crabby Thapar as a favor! That said, this is an important interview and a perspective that you don’t get from the western media. Mr Menons experience and insight are invaluable.
Foreign policy cannot be formulated and implemented through the media. Much of it is conducted secretly and behind the scenes.Thapar should appreciate this and lower his sights and not poke his nose into areas beyond his relevance or competence.
Likes of K Thapar in the family rule days had power to formulate foreign policy of India for the govt of that day in return for goodies. Now their crib is, they are no more part of governance n day dreaming to good old days
Really enjoyed this interview with unbiased geopolitical analysis.
World mein Kahin bhi Kisi Desh mein , Manavta aur Insaniyat ki Raksha Honee Chahiye.---- Aam Jan Adhikar Manch, Buxar, Bihar.
Manavta and Insaniyat. Spot on but there is no MANAVTA and INSANIYAT left on this Earth of ours.
Mr. Menon is absolute genius , Karan brings best out of him with his brilliant questions.
hats off to Mr. Menon. Very patient and nuanced analysis - in stark contrast to the imbecile interruptions by Karan Thapar.
Annoyingly repetitive that Thapar
no previous interview has exposed the super western-media bias in Karan Thapar as this one. Mr. Menon is the ideal picture of practical foreign diplomacy in response to his unnecessary paranoia.
Excellent discussion 👍
Firstly, coming to the genesis of The Wire.(phobic behaviour)
It was founded in 2015 by Siddharth Varadarajan, Sidharth Bhatia, and MK Venu[1]. Mr. Varadarajan, a US citizen of Indian descent, is the former editor of The Hindu. The Hindu is well known for its inclination towards communist ideology[2]. However, under the leadership of Mr. Varadarajan, biased printing of news in The Hindu reached a level that its own board of the directors accused him of diverging from the core values of The Hindu. Now you can imagine the biasedness level of The Wire, as even the well known Hinduphobic and communist Mr. N Ram (owner of The Hindu group) found him biased.
During the tenure of Mr. Varadajan at The Hindu, the most part of the newspapers were filled with political news. His political link with the Congress was so strong that a journalist of The Hindu named Shalini Singh broke the news of Vadra scam in 2012 but it has taken seven long months to The Hindu to carry out the story[3]. The such exaggeration of biasedness begin to sopil the image of The Hindu. Also, Mr. Subramanian Swamy filed a case in Delhi high court to challenge the appointment of Mr. Varadarajan as the chief editor of The Hindu mentioning his US citizenship. Due to these growing controversies, board of the directors of The Hindu decided to oust him from the editorial board of the Hindu.
To pursue his dream of spreading hatred towards a particular ideology and support his political fathers, he founded The Wire with Sidharth Bhatia, a well known hinduphobic, and MK Venu, his friend and former journalist of The Hindu.
The story does not end here. Mr. Varadarajan’s wife, Nadini Sundar, professor of Socilogy at Delhi School of Economics, is in contact with Naxals as revealed by an arrested naxal, named Panda[4].
So, these are the facts and now it is up to you to decide whether The Wire is biased or unbiased.
Thanks for reading!
What is your opinion on Republic tv?
@@rohana7646 it is also BJP propaganda. NO media is free even druv rathee , deshbhakt , news laundry , Elvis yadav all are propaganda with ulterior motives . THE Print is quit fair I would say
Mr. Thapar was squirming when Mr. Menon said the Indian govt did a good job.
Anti-Modi Karan Thapar must not have expected a praise. But Shiv Shankar Menon is unbiased.
A rare delight listening to Mr Menon's perspective.
Mr Menon is superb! He has a different mind & so logical. He has his own rightful opinions! Fantastic!
Such an erudite gentleman!! Beautiful interview
Brilliant! We need to hear more sane voices on the subject. Thanks for the rich content @TheWire
S,s, Menon is a clear-headed person.
Shivshankar Menon was brilliant, a highly seasoned practitioner of Realpolitik diplomacy. Shame about Mr. Thapar's disappointing interviewing skills.
Keeps intrupting.
Karan: "Mr.Menon,lets start with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. How can we pin the blame on Modi" :)
Without watching the whole interview, the monsoon frogs are here to cackle, no gives a fuck about Modi, in this dissection of course of war, modi is guided by executive forces at his helm, thats the Indian deep state, and they are and will remain more knowledgeable and profound around their decision making than modi.
This is sample of our diplomats...we know what is our line...you and even US can not cross it..Don't forget..this is Grt Chanakasya land..bow to Menon sir..
Being.a senior journalist he should work for the greater interest of the nation at this age.
Thank God India' foreign policy is not made in RSS office in Nagpur and is in the hands of professionals.
Menon can eat Kissinger for breakfast when it comes to diplomacy & strategy......Seeing a glimpse of Chanakya in him....brilliant
Mr Thapar should acknowledge the intellect he is interacting with and let the gentleman finish a sentence. His constant interruptions are nothing but annoyance.
Very sharp and pragmatic inputs by Ambassador Menon.
Karan should learn to listen more than ask petty questions to such a knowledgeable like Mr Menon & putting words in his mouth!
Good discussion...thanku both of U for sharing ur insight.
When ever I see this guy Thapa on tv .I remember jayalalitha and thakkare 😁
I saw videos of Russian troops entering Kharkiv, the second largest city of Ukraine on and the protestors circling the troops with Ukrainian flags. The Russian military could have attacked them easily but they didnt, they just stood there. The 40 mile Russian convoy to Kiev is also moving slow. I feel that Russia is strategically playing safe and slow as for now. But it seems that Putin is hellbent on occupying Kyiv at all cost. It's only a matter of time when Russian blitzkrieg would go in full throttle capturing the whole of East , South and the capital. He did the same thing while annexing Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.
Sai Nair. You may be right but I feel they know it would be pretty futile. If you look at all the recent American campaigns in the Middle East, you could say , they won every one of them but Amrica has never won the peace in any one of these countries. They have left a legacy of hate everywhere.
Just as it is good policy to live in peace with your neighbours, countries have to live in peace and friendship both with their immediate and distant neighbours. In a globalised world , wars bring misery to everybody, every nation.
A blitzkieg or a shock and awe approach has nothing for Russia and they know it. The last thing they want on their border is the instability of a civil war, and that's what they wanted to stop, as Mr. Menon pointed out. A typically American approach (as in Iraq) destroying infrastructure with heavy weapons and airstrikes, with no regard for civilian casualties, would result in the very antithesis of stability. They have no intention of occupying the country, they have simply not enough troops for the purpose. That is why they will be soft and slow all the way. Experience, both first and second hand proves that an occupation will be a disaster. Killing civilians is the best way to make resistance real.
Moscow accused of targeting civilians fleeing Ukrainian cities - as it happened.
(reported by The Guardian)
last time this taka is called by the wire 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
He. Is brilliant!
An eagerly awaited interview. Always a pleasure to listen to Mr Menon.
Had asked for this a few days ago, thanks 🙏🙏 db venkatesh varma next please
Satisfied... 👍
Just the discussion we were waiting for since February 24
Karan Thapar proves again and again that eloquence is not intelligence, mediocre that's what he is at best.
Agree
Mr. Shivshankar played a fantastic role in handling the genocide of the Tamil people in Srilanka! Just abet the SL govt to go on a killing spree. What an expert, always pleasure to hear!
Mr Menon elegantly blunted the sharpened provocation of Thapar.
One other aspect that i wish KT had asked... of the not so subtle US overthrow of a clearly elected govt in 2014 in Ukraine? Could that have been the start of all that we are seeing today..
Karan Thapar and his class just should not interview people like SS Menon... Thapar and his class just gets schooled by them live.
Thapar is so dependant on hypothetical situations for constructing his questions to a man who has vast experience in seeing through all the crap and being objective.
Thapar might be good at Debate, but Shri. Menon is a seasoned diplomat.
One of the Best Diplomats ever
A valuable time and experience of an intelligent Guest wasted by an arrogant, irritable, all- knowing and hypothesis filled 😎 mind of Mr Thapar. He would not allow Mr Menon to complete a sentence leaving us at bay as to what's there . Thapar comes with an agenda and insists that others tore his line. He should allow the guest to put his views, logic and reasons ,but we are denied that valuable part because Thapar objects/ interests midway.
Vinash’s train of thought is with Sanghis . And you vinash fails to comprehend that your icon choukidhar and his polices are nothing to be commended . Your perception turns ultimately to be destructive VINASH
Salute to you Sir!!!
I can listen to Shivshankar Menon for hrs and hrs and even more hrs!!! 🙂
We've got some of the finest brains in our foreign services.
Thankyou karan Thank you Menon sir
A interesting interview. Seems more a battle of intelligence and views between Thapar and Menon. You need to ensure that it is India first - always! Self reliance is key. The Ukraine war is awful but look at history- the West servicing its needs - it tends to forget history and that too conveniently. Upshot the war should end and India help minds meet between the Ukraine and Russia
Mr. Thapar, please let former NSA speak. For God's sake. For Ukraine's sake.
Karan tried his best to hear what he wish to hear.Mr Menon realise his intention.
Dear Mr Thappar, i have always been fascinated by your questioning and interview techniques, but one of the main issue that i have seen emanating from your tactic is that you just don't have that elan in you to accept the opposite guy i.e. the interviewee is also a substantially intelligent, eloquent, erudite person and oftentimes i have seen you seem to feel 'threatrned' by this that u try to demonstrate your intellectual prowess by really uncalled for interjections and almost choking the flow of thought of the the person you are interviewing. If hat is, and we can also argue it is a part of your strategy, i get the impression, as part of the audience that it is not working..
So as Bertie Wooster would have said, 'less of it' !
Ofcourse Menon was not adept and dusolaulyed such character in his response despite being interrupted, which clearly helped show what a great person he is..
But the session was fantastic and really we all know your style will not change but listening fully too is a good strategy..what say?
India should maintain non-alignment and not get influenced by western pressure and/or propaganda !
But we had a Russia/NATO agreement on the ground of cooperation and restrictions of troop deployment on both sides, and Russia has violated this agreement again and again, for example by stationing medium range Missiles in the Kaliningrad enclave.
Only after 2014 and the annexation of Crimea has NATO deployed more troops, and was committed to invest a greater amount of resources in Central Europe, and there was not even a thought about the deployment of nuclear weapons on the territories of Ukraine, that's why the Cuba as a reference is illegitimate.
That sip of water is a deja vu moment for Mr Thapar, you could see that fleeting panic ! 😁
8:53 - is it just me or do other also notice the KT has is hand reaching out & ready to interrupt everytime the guest begins to speak. does he even listen to the answer and understand the response?!?
If you study the invasions of Russia or the Soviet Union in the past ,you will soon realize that there were always logistics issues which cropped up right through the duration of Russia be it Napoleon Bonaparte's invasion on 1812 or Hitler's invasion in 1941 ,what happened is so vast was the expanse of land that the invading armies were always falling short of spare parts for tanks or cannons or any other war machinery needed to carry on the war as quickly as possible,the same is happening now even though Ukraine is very small compared in size to Russia
What a cool calm man he is 👍🏼👍🏼
Shiva Shankar Menon has correctly portrayed India's diplomatic response to the Russo-Ukranian conflict as the voice of reason and good sense and an honest party to broker peace. As is the tradition pursuing an independent foreign policy based on national interests is the best bet to a safer world
Superb conversation end at an establishing a peace situation..
Excellent question/ answer session.
It's good that you have increased the duration of show (now around 45 minutes). Ideally, it should be around one hour.
Mr. Karan Thapar, stop interrupting your guests. Please let the guest complete his answer.
Looking at the performance of Russian military equipment in the Ukraine war, we have a lot to worry about if this is the 'superpower' we are reliant on for our supplies.
Dude they are superpower and not using their best weapons using medium range missiles just to stop Ukraine from joining NATO
What of the Ukrainian people's wish to join EU and perhaps NATO? How do you square that circle Mr Menon? He was not even challenged hard enough.
Mr. Thapar insisted that Shivshankar Menon speak out against the Modi government, but he failed miserably.
Mr Menon is very right.
Great discussion. It’s clear that india has to be self reliant and start reduce dependency on Russia for military needs.
Brilliant Lighting
#KaranLetHimSpeak should be a hashtag for most of these ... And he didn't say it was a pleasure talking to SSM either. 🤔