DCS: F-4E - Episode III - NAVIGATION

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2024
  • IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - Due to severe and unexpected issues with our new UI system during the commencement of mass testing; we've made the tough choice to delay DCS: F-4E until the early spring - with a strong target of April and a launch absolutely NO later than May. Read more about the reasons why and what the issues were here: bit.ly/49SFqJJ
    Welcome to an episode focused on navigating the F-4E Phantom! It's far more complex than you may think; and navigating correctly will be a true challenge. Make sure to read the Navigation sections in the online manual for more information:
    f4.manuals.heatblur.se/system...
    Thank you for all of your support and see you in the skies soon!
    Voice Over narration by Jonathan A. Williams.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 537

  • @PaulKuykendall
    @PaulKuykendall 2 місяці тому +388

    As a software engineer driving towards a critical delivery myself, I feel your pain. Better to release a good product that works and is fit for function than "meet the date" but with critical problems.

    • @PaVVroo
      @PaVVroo 2 місяці тому +7

      As a software engineer myself I can say that I am expected to meet deadlines that I promise and I expect others to do the same.

    • @tacham227
      @tacham227 2 місяці тому +14

      @@PaVVroo They have stated their problems causing the delay. Working in a team is critical meaning if the ppl are not there, you can expect a delay. Its basic stuff

    • @alikarimi4182
      @alikarimi4182 2 місяці тому

      Same here, let's not forget about agile methodology 😅

    • @MYYT247
      @MYYT247 2 місяці тому +2

      @@PaVVroo you expect to meet your deadlines that you promise. They also expected to meet their deadlines (but please point me to release date if they promised any). What is the problem?

    • @PaVVroo
      @PaVVroo 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MYYT247 First they said its coming in 2022, then when they were advertising the preorder they said "this winter".

  • @brandonchappell1535
    @brandonchappell1535 2 місяці тому +160

    The fact you explained WHY it was delayed, and gave a sincere apology, AND an updated date, shows your commitment to ur customers. Most devs are like, its delayed deal with it.

  • @lancet.346
    @lancet.346 2 місяці тому +229

    I'll take delays over someone dealing with a serious illness. I hope you all get well soon.

  • @SonicGold34
    @SonicGold34 2 місяці тому +98

    We are living in an age where there is so much garbage out there because its rushed and plagued with problems, we are falling on our knees for delays if it means a proper product is released, what a time to be alive, take as much time as you need.

  • @Whykikamoocow
    @Whykikamoocow 2 місяці тому +145

    As much as I want to get my hands on this module...I'm happy enough to wait for whatever fixes need to happen.

  • @-nixwite-
    @-nixwite- 2 місяці тому +114

    No Worries HB, take as much time as you all need! 🤙

  • @Jabzzo
    @Jabzzo 2 місяці тому +75

    can't wait for release day, it's looking good lads!

  • @charlessparks3184
    @charlessparks3184 2 місяці тому +7

    Hoping for quick recovery for all team members so sorry for your illness. HeatBlur, I really appreciate your transparency on the issue and looking forward to the launch.

  • @Javier-ov3hj
    @Javier-ov3hj 2 місяці тому +27

    Taking care of your people is key to success. I already preordered so yall take however long you need.

  • @GalaxyGaming-fh3du
    @GalaxyGaming-fh3du 2 місяці тому +93

    Don't overwork yourselves Heatblur Team, We all appreciate your hard work!

  • @reservoirdog1099
    @reservoirdog1099 2 місяці тому +5

    No need to apologize. I appreciate your team’s passion and dedication. My boss put it best, “A company is stronger if it is bound by love rather than by fear.”
    Herb Kelleher

  • @thesimnet
    @thesimnet 2 місяці тому +17

    "If you're going through hell, keep going." Onwards, and good luck folks, we're with you all the way. Cheers

  • @scruffww3495
    @scruffww3495 2 місяці тому +17

    Thank you for updating us your loyal customers and fans. I think we all want to help. As a former F-4E/G Instructor Pilot, I know too well the tasks you are trying to replicate. When the ARN-101 replaced the LN-12 it made a huge difference in navigation and weapons employment! Keep up the good work, we are all cheering for you and the team!

    • @104thironmike4
      @104thironmike4 2 місяці тому

      Hi Scruffww3495 - thank you for your very kind words. We would love to get your feedback as a former pilot btw, we always look to strengthen the ranks of our SME team. If you would be interested, I would love to hear from you. You can PM me on the ED Forums, user: IronMike Thank you and have a great day!

  • @keithbuddrige5064
    @keithbuddrige5064 2 місяці тому +5

    Im extremely grateful for the open communication about the delay.
    Yes its disappointing BUT it would be even more frustrating to get a module that has major problems.
    Thank you HeatBlur for keeping your modules in the highest quality of DCS modules ever!

  • @OfficialUSKRprogram
    @OfficialUSKRprogram 2 місяці тому +126

    Don't worry about delays, Razbam has already broken all of us

    • @OjitosArt
      @OjitosArt 2 місяці тому +15

      Giving us a better module than the F-18 or 16? Yea

    • @BarManFesteiro
      @BarManFesteiro 2 місяці тому +24

      @@OjitosArt LMAO this must be bait, F15 must be the most broken piece of shit module i ever played, and i bought the Hawk back in the day

    • @chadswindell6924
      @chadswindell6924 2 місяці тому +12

      @@BarManFesteiro you clearly didn't fly the harrier when it first released lol. Razscam is a nickname for a reason

    • @OjitosArt
      @OjitosArt 2 місяці тому +8

      @@BarManFesteiro So the F-16 or the F-18 arent? In the last update the F-16 datalink was broken or when they updated the radar of the 16 and 18 you could lock targets on the ground with the radar like fire or tanks. Dont be a kid and say the 15 its broken cuz all of them are, the Strike Eagle it had from far a more complete EA than the F-18 or 16 featuring way more stuff than they did and also has some stuff that they dont have at the moment (like a comples datalink or a good radar model for example)
      Please, we are very bad used to this

    • @PaddyPatrone
      @PaddyPatrone 2 місяці тому +4

      Lol true

  • @ColonelAkirNakesh
    @ColonelAkirNakesh 2 місяці тому +15

    "Better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground" 😊

  • @chrismaverick9828
    @chrismaverick9828 2 місяці тому +6

    Users can appreciate the effort you folks put in and the honesty you represent. In an age of "two weeks" being the joke for updated release dates, the more legitimate-sounding date extension and detailed transparency goes a long way. I've been in love with the F-14 since you released it and am willing to be patient for the same love and care on your next modules.

  • @stacyw8269
    @stacyw8269 2 місяці тому +10

    Press on, stay focused and polish an epic module that delivers on the Heatblur name. Good luck, we know it will be worth the wait.

  • @nabilelhamdaoui7209
    @nabilelhamdaoui7209 2 місяці тому +42

    That's what mass testing is for! Looks amazing.

  • @cw-aviation
    @cw-aviation 2 місяці тому +8

    Great work and great communication!
    I was thinking during this A Heatblur Tornado would be a beautiful thing!

    • @supertrump.4776
      @supertrump.4776 2 місяці тому

      What about an F111???

    • @bulikoge
      @bulikoge Місяць тому

      @@supertrump.4776 best idea ever, we need this

  • @bullitthead7853
    @bullitthead7853 2 місяці тому +25

    Get well soon!

  • @rmax7823
    @rmax7823 2 місяці тому +1

    A bit like go around on landing: better to go around and explain to people why you did, rather than crash and let people work out why you didn't. Full kudos to you guys for being as open and transparent as possible, rather than meeting a deadline with a rubbish laggy module that would take forever to regain your reputation. I am more than happy to wait longer for an excellent module. Thanks guys.

  • @Mystic_Chizu
    @Mystic_Chizu 2 місяці тому +9

    Thank you for taking the time to explain what exactly was broken and how it caused the delay. Even without people getting sick I'm pretty sure pinning down an issue as configuration dependent as that would still be an utterly painful and time consuming process.

  • @adalwolf5098
    @adalwolf5098 2 місяці тому +2

    You guys are on another level. The detail and technicality of all this is insane. Massive respect to the whole team for researching and coding and modeling all this.
    Hope anyone who is unwell recovers ASAP, for their sake.
    And can’t wait to finally strap into the cockpit of this thing when it releases

  • @KrystianLewandowski
    @KrystianLewandowski 2 місяці тому +12

    I really appreciate this level of transparency, that you went into details. My F-4E is patiently waiting in the hangar and my message to you is - no worries, take your time. PS. Stay safe.

  • @NorthernerInSpace
    @NorthernerInSpace 2 місяці тому +2

    It's ready when it's ready as far as I am concerned! Thanks for all your hard work and for the updates!

  • @lemangkuk
    @lemangkuk 2 місяці тому +7

    its okay Heatblur, wish everyone a speedy recovery there!

  • @wannaloginnow
    @wannaloginnow 2 місяці тому +1

    You guys earned my respect over the years, because of the quality of your products and your excellent communication. That’s why I don’t have any issues with the delay of the F-4. Keep doing your thing. It’s appreciated!

  • @johng.2321
    @johng.2321 2 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for fine tuning the F-4. This is going to be a very important release so I understand the hesitation of releasing a subpar product. Don't work too hard, your health is more important.

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet 2 місяці тому +2

    I agree with @PaulKuykendall. It is much more important to have a quality product at release than throwing something broken out to make a deadline. Thanks for your work. We'll wait.

  • @massimilianofontana
    @massimilianofontana 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank You for letting us know so much in detail bout the actual situation, some of the features you're trying to implement are definitely groundbreaking for dcs.. this is a big thing that will set a new standard and Rome was not built in a day!

  • @CROW1-2
    @CROW1-2 2 місяці тому +1

    I hope the entire team gets well soon. I‘m excited to get my hands on this masterpiece!

  • @vraven1327
    @vraven1327 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate that Heatblur took the time to explain the situation. I hope for the full recovery of the team. I see that the F4 will be the ultimate DCS module. Of course it would take some time. Keep the good work Heatblur!

  • @Virtual-VMF-214-Black-Sheep
    @Virtual-VMF-214-Black-Sheep 2 місяці тому +14

    Nice work guys. Hope everyone gets to feeling better.

  • @wilbuzllf5057
    @wilbuzllf5057 2 місяці тому +1

    Health comes before everything else! Thanks for the update and transparency!

  • @matt7830
    @matt7830 2 місяці тому +9

    I thought this was coming out in June! Don’t mind a “delay” at all. Good work!

  • @luftwaffels6746
    @luftwaffels6746 2 місяці тому +3

    This aircraft module will be a milestone in the history of aircraft simulation games

  • @Boots3862
    @Boots3862 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the openness and good judgement. I have waited about 30 years for a detailed, accurate and in-depth simulation of an F-4. I can wait a little longer. Thanks for doing the right thing. Get well, and we'll be ready to PHLY when you are.

  • @skinnyboi810
    @skinnyboi810 2 місяці тому +2

    In this age of games. I would rather you guys delay than rush the product. Keep it up❤

  • @gwalker3092
    @gwalker3092 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for the message and transparency. One thing I would add it would be nice if even an early version of the manual was made available at some point. This plane is clearly going to take a lot of ground study before being flown

    • @Squid2650
      @Squid2650 2 місяці тому

      Manual is available, has been for a while

    • @104thironmike4
      @104thironmike4 Місяць тому

      Here it is: f4.manuals.heatblur.se/ Enjoy.

  • @ArtemKatranzhi
    @ArtemKatranzhi 2 місяці тому +1

    Wish to your team members get well soon. Will wait slightly longer, no problems. Thanks for release dates updates.

  • @wolfewatson
    @wolfewatson 2 місяці тому

    Hope you guys are getting better, 2 months will fly by. Keep up the good work!

  • @colinterry7261
    @colinterry7261 2 місяці тому +13

    Sad to hear it delayed, but still excited as ever to join all the virtual Phantom Phlyers!

  • @Zarma4074
    @Zarma4074 2 місяці тому +18

    Thanks for the communication

  • @chocks9350
    @chocks9350 Місяць тому +1

    Tshirt have arrived. Looking forward to try it on together with Fantom, when you are ready :)

  • @GabryelHdPerformance
    @GabryelHdPerformance 2 місяці тому +1

    I can’t wait for this “hardcore nav” of the F-4. Anyway No worry for this delay! All the best support for you! 🤙

  • @danielroncaioli6882
    @danielroncaioli6882 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate the transparency and honesty.

  • @bryanbishop2377
    @bryanbishop2377 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm glad you're waiting to fix issues. I really hope you guys consider putting out a future F-4B/N model. They have the prettiest liveries...

  • @wash_out
    @wash_out 2 місяці тому +2

    Honestly with this insane amount of innovation i don’t care about a few months. This whole project is nuts 🤘

  • @imellor711
    @imellor711 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate this update and hope those involved will get well soon. Plus, we know that with Heatblur's quality and having a working full fidelity module is your core goal. We know what we're getting after the Viggen and F-14.
    So I, for one, hope that you get your technology issues resolved and now look forward to May/June release of the F4 Phatom II.

  • @KPGaming1506
    @KPGaming1506 2 місяці тому +1

    I think I can speak for most of the community that with recent crappy games launches, a slight delay to get your release right is appreciated. Keep up the good work and I am still excited for this model.

  • @kingofchris
    @kingofchris 2 місяці тому

    This is beyond an amazing product!

  • @andrewbarras3414
    @andrewbarras3414 2 місяці тому +1

    As a software developer I feel your pain. I know you'll deliver when it's ready and I look forward to flying the F4!

  • @Delta2Oscar
    @Delta2Oscar 2 місяці тому

    Take the time y'all need! We're excited and can wait no matter what. :)

  • @cgardnerjr
    @cgardnerjr 2 місяці тому

    Please... Please take your time, your doing great work for us to enjoy and quality over speed any day! Get well to you and your team and we really really appreciate your hard work, we get it when we get it. At the same time, dying to fly this thing😂

  • @Crazy-Bear-Gamer-Channel
    @Crazy-Bear-Gamer-Channel 2 місяці тому +1

    this is the downside of pursuing great results and setting new standards! I like your attitude in trying to go beyond the standards always! it will take a little more time to come, but I'm sure it will be a great module!

  • @MF-og1ct
    @MF-og1ct 2 місяці тому

    Take the time you need to make it right, no need to rush. I am so excited for this one.

  • @TexasWarbird
    @TexasWarbird 2 місяці тому +9

    I completely forgot i bought this module ngl. I think its the best tactic when you pre-order.

  • @PinkCube247
    @PinkCube247 2 місяці тому +6

    Thank you, Heatblur. Things like pilot customisation is truly going to add immersion we've never felt before in DCS. WOW!!! JUST WOW!!! if I can change my pilots moustache and the new UI is a part of that... Well... This is going to be WELL WORTH the wait!!!

  • @mururoa7024
    @mururoa7024 2 місяці тому +7

    Are you kidding? NO PROBLEM! We're with you all the way.
    Wishing a speedy recovery to the sick team mate.

  • @1underground747
    @1underground747 2 місяці тому +1

    its amazing what you guy's are doing with model who care's if it takes longer you guy's are doing great and ty for making pc flight sim awesome

  • @raven-seven3786
    @raven-seven3786 2 місяці тому +1

    I hope the team is doing well! As I’ve seen a couple comments mentioned already. I eagerly waiting for the release. But can’t help it if sickness or technically issues are out and about, I would rather wait a bit longer for a better module than a rushed one! Anyways hope everyone is well!

  • @darrenabbott4047
    @darrenabbott4047 2 місяці тому

    Take your time Heatblur and I wish your team well....

  • @droneforfun5384
    @droneforfun5384 2 місяці тому

    We trust in you Heatblur, and we understand. Your products are fantastic, second to none.

  • @LEAD-DISPENSER
    @LEAD-DISPENSER 2 місяці тому +1

    Health is more important then any job/project the release date is your own we will bloody wait an be happy about

  • @MrNephilimBorn
    @MrNephilimBorn 2 місяці тому +7

    No apologies necessary Nick, Heatblur's dedication to their content does not go unnoticed and is very much appreciated.

  • @mrpawno4955
    @mrpawno4955 2 місяці тому +9

    No ones mad you’re delaying. Take your time and thank you for work

    • @sandwich5344
      @sandwich5344 2 місяці тому

      The razbam and reddit boys are. But as every sane human being knows - don't read into 'em

    • @christianblack8083
      @christianblack8083 2 місяці тому

      Bozo sure is... nitpicking every single post or comment they make, like their word is set in the most ancient and sacred of stone.

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 2 місяці тому +11

    take your time heatblur; we all want this iconic aircraft to be perfect

  • @Elysian_Angel_
    @Elysian_Angel_ 2 місяці тому +35

    It’s alive!

  • @JK-dv3qe
    @JK-dv3qe 2 місяці тому +10

    THE PHANTOM LOOKS SWEET! hope everyone in the team will be OK and I WILL BUY THIS BEAUTY FOR SURE!

  • @coyoteduster8919
    @coyoteduster8919 2 місяці тому +14

    everyone saw the delay a mile away, its a trademark of heatblur.

  • @alperenyuksel673
    @alperenyuksel673 2 місяці тому +3

    Although the news of the delay may seem like a bad thing, after the statement made, I am fully confident that we will finally get our hands on the Phantom in April. We appreciate the effort you've shown, and we're always here to support you.

  • @kadose
    @kadose 2 місяці тому

    A difficult, but sound, decision. It means you take what you do seriously and take pride in your work. I hope your team members recover from their illnesses. No problem waiting at my end. Best of luck.

  • @AndyAttrition
    @AndyAttrition 2 місяці тому

    Take your time. Thats a big reason i love HB, you dont rush to feed. you polish your product till it is ready and thats good and right!

  • @TheCrash1983
    @TheCrash1983 2 місяці тому

    Cool thanks for heads up, get well

  • @turbinestudio8462
    @turbinestudio8462 2 місяці тому +2

    Very excited! As long as there is communication, I'm a happy pre-purchase customer, and you guys go beyond with these videos, thank you!

  • @likelike344
    @likelike344 2 місяці тому +10

    No rush guys. We know it will be awesome!

  • @Rogeroverandout61
    @Rogeroverandout61 2 місяці тому +12

    🤦‍♂️ what a surprise, didn’t see that coming, pre order way to go when will I ever learn

  • @prichardgs
    @prichardgs 2 місяці тому

    Look, guys-you make great aircraft, and the fact that you are not willing to release this aircraft with problems speaks volumes to you and your team's character! I'll wait; makes the first flight sweater.

  • @captainkoloth1631
    @captainkoloth1631 2 місяці тому +24

    Real F-4 Phantom: I am the most realistic incarnation of a Phantom
    Heatblur: Hold my beer

    • @A2Moonclaw
      @A2Moonclaw 2 місяці тому +11

      That should be their slogan; “Heatblur, realer than real.”

    • @simtaylor61
      @simtaylor61 2 місяці тому +2

      😂

  • @nateweter4012
    @nateweter4012 2 місяці тому +5

    No worries, I’ll buy it, but I’m stowing the hype. I really thought Friday or this upcoming week was it. It’s not that I’m not excited or blame anyone, it’s just that I’m gassed on this pattern and just kind of over it.

  • @mackho8888
    @mackho8888 2 місяці тому +8

    Okay, May now. Thank you. Understand the hurdles. We appreciate your efforts. Worth the wait.

  • @user-vs8hd5jv8j
    @user-vs8hd5jv8j 2 місяці тому

    Hi guys,
    First of all, thank you for the message apologizing for the delay, but our hearts go out to you.
    Thank you for the work you do. We are happy that you are doing this module.
    I think it's going to be amazing like the Tomcat and the Viggen are.
    Thanks to them, we have no doubt that the F4 will be sublime.
    For my part, I am a big fan of your modules.
    Thanks to you, I have become a great defender of the F14 and the AJS37 and I would also be one for the Phantom.
    Thank you for your work.

  • @ToddBurgess
    @ToddBurgess 2 місяці тому

    Speaking as a software developer, I get it, things can and go wrong. That said, kudos for owning it and laying it all out the way you did. Can't wait to see it

  • @CapofigoGamingChannel
    @CapofigoGamingChannel 2 місяці тому

    Simply incredible

  • @dcsheinlein
    @dcsheinlein 2 місяці тому +2

    Apology accepted. Good that you found these issues now rather then after launch. Boy would there be bitching if it was released severely bugged.

  • @Furia40
    @Furia40 2 місяці тому

    Awesome module!! I do appreciate the communication transparency and I rather wait a bit more to have a quality module.

  • @ducoschollmeijer4841
    @ducoschollmeijer4841 2 місяці тому +11

    Keep it up! You guys are doing a great job!

  • @agniteyt
    @agniteyt 2 місяці тому

    Please delay it and get well soon, we're thankful for having such a talented and dedicated team such as yourselves working on this.
    We're with you ❤

  • @andrewculley8524
    @andrewculley8524 2 місяці тому +1

    Take whatever time you need to make the F4 as it should be 😎

  • @DiphonFX
    @DiphonFX 2 місяці тому +16

    No worries about the delay, we appreciate the hard work you guys are putting in to get it right.

    • @NoNoNoNoYoureWrong
      @NoNoNoNoYoureWrong 2 місяці тому +5

      No, we don't. In any other industry, in any other organization this would be unacceptable. I'm not sure who is worse in developing products based on release schedules, ED or HB. They are both abysmal.
      Yes, before we go down the justification rabbit hole. I develop in UE5 extensively. I understand release schedules, I understand product development. I understand the complexities of bringing products to market.

    • @michelestefanini5466
      @michelestefanini5466 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@NoNoNoNoYoureWrongFINALLY SOMEONE WHO'S NOT STUPID

    • @JK-dv3qe
      @JK-dv3qe 2 місяці тому +1

      nobody asked for your credentials@@NoNoNoNoYoureWrong

    • @NoNoNoNoYoureWrong
      @NoNoNoNoYoureWrong 2 місяці тому

      ​@@JK-dv3qe Apparently, you didn't take note of the screen name.

  • @indianajon7980
    @indianajon7980 2 місяці тому

    These things happen. I'd much rather a decent product later than a broken one now. I wish you all luck, hope your colleague gets well soon and will be here waiting for when the time comes. If you could maybe get the full cold and dark tutorial out soon mind to give us something to work on while we wait.

  • @andrewernest8943
    @andrewernest8943 2 місяці тому

    I am a combustion engine mechanic. In order to deliver good work, I have to take enough time. Why should it be any different for you? Take the time to ensure that you are satisfied with the result. You are not doing this for the money, we can see that clearly, it is your passion.❤‍🔥 Thank you for being who you are. Without Heatblur I would have given up on ED and DCS long ago. 👍

  • @asddsa-lw7dl
    @asddsa-lw7dl 2 місяці тому

    Take your time and good points on being honest.

  • @pinkfloyd7572
    @pinkfloyd7572 2 місяці тому +7

    Delays are always painful for us flyers, but we love us some Heatblur. 😎

    • @simtaylor61
      @simtaylor61 2 місяці тому +3

      What impressed me is that they owned the delay. Hey, &@$” happens. But they stood tall before the man and kept us in the loop. The radio silence that Razbam gave us on the Strike Eagle did not impress me at ALL

    • @pinkfloyd7572
      @pinkfloyd7572 2 місяці тому +2

      @@simtaylor61 That's funny. I didn't even finish reading what you wrote and I was already thinking of Razbam as the polar opposite of Heatblur.... and then you mentioned Razbam. 🤣
      RB makes nice stuff, but their customer relations blow. To them it's just "Buy it or don't buy it, we don't care, just shut up."

  • @generalgrevous2458
    @generalgrevous2458 2 місяці тому +5

    No sweat, better to put out a working module than a severely flawed one. Appreciate the heads up. 🙂👍

  • @launchsquid
    @launchsquid 2 місяці тому +6

    Im always glad a dev will delay release rather than try to stick to an arbitrary release date, well done.

  • @aitor47
    @aitor47 2 місяці тому +1

    I just don't think that the delay is such a big deal. There are other modules to fly and have fun with in the meantime. Good things take time. People just want everything NOW in today's world. Thanks for the update

  • @johanandersen1647
    @johanandersen1647 2 місяці тому +1

    While i am exited for the phantom to come to DCS, although it is delayed. Will the new UI features be implemented on the F14 and the AJS?

  • @michaeldenney2444
    @michaeldenney2444 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for being open and keeping us updated.