Why I'll Pass on the Sony Xperia 1VI
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- In today's video I talk about the new Sony Xperia 1 VI and why I don't currently think it's a compelling offer. I go over reasons such as the new aspect ratio, sensors, price point, etc.
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Sorry I kept saying 48mp, I meant 48mm
The interview mentioned: www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/articles/2406/10/news112.html
I don't think it's a big deal not to have 48mm mode, because the sensor uses Quad-Bayer filter which means the effective resolution is 12 MPx and when you use 2X crop, you end up with upscaled 3 MPx photo. It's useless if they don't have sensor shifting to get more details in the shot.
I have xperia 1ii it satisfied me 99.9 %
it has a lot of manuals to play with
Never use Xperia line before but it's look nice and design overall is still minimal and i genuinely like the 6th version , the red version look good
@@mitismee Even though red is my least favorite color I do agree! Design-wise I think the Xperia lines typically look really good
@@ShibiChan i just feel like all other smartphone has gigantic camera that's why i really hate it, i never own Xperia but would be nice to look for my first anyway , i love the form factor as well even though no more narrow form but its still not as wide as others nice rectangular with curved corner , im glad that Xperia kept the design the same for 6th generation
@@mitismee I like the design and I don't deny the smaller camera bump makes it easier to handle, but my problem is that it's so expensive and Sony continuously markets it as a phone for photographers when that's not the case :(
For the price You have to take into account that when you look at samsung they charge 3 prices for internal storage. Sony gives u internal storage and a sd card slot which you can put up to 1tb memory card in 🤔
As someone who uses phone for everything else except taking photos (once in a blue moon), it's a perfect phone for me.
Asus ROG Phone would've been my other choice.
Same
Ive testing now the 1 VI for 2 weeks now. And i am impressed with the Battery life the heat management is better than on my S24 Ultra. What was actually before the 1 VI the coolest and best battery life phone. But the 1 VI kicked my S24U. To photography i see some improvements when not much compared to my 1 V, but their are improvements. Especially seflie video and video alll around. Macro shots coming by me out pretty good. And very impressive too. And now i compare the macro with my Huawei Pura 70 Ultra, that is to this moment still the macro king. All around i think the 1 VI is in terms of battery heat management and some camera improvements are pretty solid phone. But would i upgrade from are 1 V? I think no. But the new form factor i kinda like the wider screen ratio. But its also taste 😅i think the 1 VI is worth for people that are Sony fans but dont have the 1 V already. Or for people that wilm try are sony smartphone. But for me the big pros are heat management and battery life. By me it goes up to 4 Days with 5h38min. Of SoT. I also like the colors on the display of the 1 VI against my 15 Pro Max and my other phones it holds pretty good up sometimes also better. I make are first impressions after almost 11 days on my X account. @Fujiwar79319671
But i also understand your video and i agree with you for that kind of price and that little changes is it sad. I would price the 1 VI about 900 to 990. Or 850 would be perfect.
@@luziferhell5768 I definitely agree, and tried my best to come across clearly in the video.
I'm not saying the device is trash or anything like that, it's just that for the price they charge, it's ridiculous.
The longer battery life is definitely a major plus, and like I mentioned, I'd rather the 1V have a 1080p screen for that improvement as well.
At $850 this video would've been a complete opposite! I'd be praising them!
@@ShibiChan Yeah for 850 I would be happy too. But in my country the device I was able to get for 1090 bucks. Without the headphones. With headphones 1399 dollar. Yeah around this price point.
Ps. I am from Thailand.. 😅
It's Samsung will be using a similar telephoto camera setup with the same sensor for s25 U
Was waiting for you to talk about this phone! I really recently upgraded to the 1 mkV, loved your videos on it!
@@nathanlitvin2033 Thanks for watching! I have a feeling many people are going to prefer the 1V over the newer one this time around
The main reason why I wouldn't buy Xperia phone is, the gap between between 24mm and 85mm focal length of main camera and telephoto camera is too big. Also, it doesn't make sense to stick to single exposure approach to photography while at the same time using smaller sensors than the competition.
If I was making a smartphone for photographers and content creators, I would go with 20mm, 35mm (or 40mm) and 85mm focal lengths. The sensors would be as big as possible to fit a camera bump similar to Nokia 808 camera bump. I would put a Xenon flash with a diffuser. Instead of using single exposure, I would make sensors that support staggered HDR and use those two simultaneous exposures to boost the dynamic range. And I would never use high resolution Quad-Bayer filter, because it's only purpose is to help the marketing team. I would stick to 12 MPx sensor.
I love my Xperia 1vi and it's clear camera lens placement
You have hit it out of the park, I love Sony phones but I'm done with Sony phones here in the US
I think they made that decision for you considering they don't sell there anymore!
oof ! double dose of negative for the VI today lol Man those spiders macros have done the rounds now hahah
@@UpsideLens Yeah what a beautiful coincidence that our videos came out within basically minutes of each other.
I really wonder if Sony mobile division actually even cares.
Man 3 years and not a meaningful telephoto upgrade, what a freaking joke
yeah funny enough i have linked both your videos on another forum. that's saying i am a bit angry at Sony as well but not really surprised
Great video , i do jot like the fact they changed the form factor and the fact woth the 48mm. I was able to get the Sony 1 mark V , used last year and love alot about it but some simple features i was missing so i switch back and forth with pixel 8 pro
Have u checked out xperia 5v? Got tood it's pretty much better than samsuns S23s overall so I'm considering it
Yeah there is no need to "upgrade" I think they may be consolidating and figuring out what they want to do. If so the mk vii might knock it out of the park. Im not holding my breath. Its almost that they are messing to much with the "incremental" revisions although the new heat sink seems pretty nice, even if its a few gen late. There has to be something really cool for the next one or the one after for me to get em.
@@ThePrimaFacie I'm absolutely not holding my breath. In my opinion, everything but the macro ability is at least a year late behind the competition.
And the nerve to charge the price they do, it's infuriating.
Combined with their decisions to abandon the zoom feature on the 1V after promising it, it's very telling about how they think about their customers and fans.
Vivo x100 ultra or pro still a king in photography or video recording.
@@diuran1919 at a fraction of the price as well!
Was looking to upgrade from my xperia 1 iv but,having lots of doubts,and definately wont pay £1299 for one, although there are a few on ebay for around £900 but i still cannot bring myself to buy one because i dont really think its a big enough upgrade from the 1 iv really,i might just wait and see what they do to the next release? Sony are so frustrating to the point i dont really know why im with them?
@@peterharwood5705 That's exactly what I've been feeling and why I've moved away from Sony for now. I want to keep the 1V purely for form factor, but for photography it's honestly not worth it
What are your thoughts on the 5V vs lets say the AI ridden S23s and 24s??
I think it depends. I'm not particularly a fan of Samsung, the last I used was the S22 Ultra. I will say I like the Note form factor the best if I'm going to have a large phone.
Camera-wise, I don't care much for Samsung either. It doesn't seem like much has changed between the S22 and S24.
If I had to choose between the S24 Ultra and 5V, I'd choose the S24 Ultra if they're the same price. Otherwise probably the 5V. If that makes sense lol. With all the other s23 and S24 options I'd choose the 5V most likely
@@ShibiChan oh neat, thanks
I'm currently on a S23 regular and I used to love taking photos on it until the non avoidable AI post processing on the 50mp lens. Makes pictures look like watercolors
So I am thinking of switching to 5V
Im no fan boy and switched from Xiaomi to the Xperia 5 V im happy with it but the lack of basic apps like a data Manager or apps to clean the ram and delete of cache is concerning me also that i got a 1 year subscription for Bravia like there own movies bought even some movies early and they mad the app not starting anymore after an update and now even its deleted thats rly shame but im in love with the camera and pro video app
Totally agree at 150 % From France I have one since one month. I am very very disappointed by the low quality. Next time I will buy a S Ultra or a xiaomi ultra or ... Dont know. What are your advices for very good photo and video. Sony is only marketing and blablabla blabla
@@sereinfrancois1813 Seems like the major Chinese manufacturers are the way to go. Vivo isn't bad and Xiaomi seems great as well
Not a fanboy here, but also not a flagship camera phone buyer: because of the price, the phone is constantly compared with those large clunky camera flagships, which is an entirely different market. I will never use a clunky phone because it has a great camera. At this stage I would just take a point and shoot camera with me and have battery for the whole day of shooting, and have better pictures.
You ended up keeping the Vivo and not going for the Xiaomi 14 Ultra?
@@JustaFatBoi I still plan on switching. Just real life stuff has been busy and it's quite a pain for me selling devices, switching all of my data and photos to backup, etc. So just taking longer than I originally expected
Love my Sony, feels great in the hand, excellent audio - wired 3.5mm, wireless (aptx adaptive and LDAC) and external speaker. And an SD card. A shame more phones eont have these.
It was Sony's commitment to 3 years security updates that toppwd rhe balance for me.
If you're into audio quality, then Sony (or some Asus phones) are the way to go (beat my Samsung ultra hands down for audio quality and battery life).
Mark 6 is like a prototype for the Mark 7.
The price IS overkill. Ever since I switched from Samsung to the 1 V there are simple features I miss which the 1 VI also omits. The increased width of the 1 VI is also a negative for me, I'd rather a downsized version if they want that aspect ratio.
I do like the advertised increased brightness because I find it hard to see the 1 V screen in direct sunlight. But other than that there's nothing to tempt me.
Not to mention the lack of 3rd party cases that fit my preferred aesthetic. Why so 'macho' Spigen? But I acknowledge that frivolity is wasteful whatever the aesthetic.
A brighter screen is great, but 1000% it's costing Sony less to do that screen, and the savings aren't being passed on.
As matter of fact, it's basically no difference in hardware but still charging an insane premium while actually taking away features. It's crazy, and why I'm so vocally against them at the moment.
A complete insult to previous customers and fans
Im currently still using Xpeeri 1ii..to be honest im not a fan of 21:1 screen,thats why im more excited with xperia 1vi now..i dont really mind all the negative thing you said,because it doesn't really matter for me anyway..but why there's still no charger or at least cable charger pack together,with that price tag,a little bit disapointed...for what reason anyway??🤷
@@icekacangfactory All the companies claim they do it for the environment, but they do it purely to save some extra money
So I should wait for iPhone 16 Pro and not get Xperia 1 VI?
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@@NetvoTV Honestly I don't have many positive things to say about iPhone either lol.
My partner upgraded her phone to the 15 Pro, and to see how disappointed she was, was quite sad.
She has shot Nikon for years, so she understands what's good and what's not. And sadly she fell for a lot of the iPhone hype :(
Also I appreciate the hustle, but I'm not looking for anything at the and likely won't be for a while
@@ShibiChan I see, I plan to get a Nikon Zf with 28-400mm f4-8 when I can afford one later, but phone is still phone, are we too harsh on their quality and they are quite good at what they are and they offer a lot more in the non camera departments too? Do you have what phone in mind you think is better? I use Mac, it will be nice to be in the ecosystem but iPhone has a warm sunset look even in the afternoon or 3pm it seem from videos, skin tone is red too, Xperia is natural but has a purple or some call it magenta look too
@@NetvoTV I use Mac as well. Transferring files can be annoying but I've learned to deal with it more or less. You need special software to connect an Android phone directly, and it's not always super reliable.
I've tried iPhone though, it's not for me. I'll take the pain in the rear connection process instead
@@ShibiChan you can try to use google official Android File Transfer, someone told me and it's nice! Do you travel a lot and do you find there is something you need that is only available or can be done easier in iOS for that?
Hello, Thank you for that video.
I also have the Xperia 1 V and i agree 99,99% with you.
Sony's attitude towards its customer is really shameful.
No upgrade to 2X lossless mode and 48Mpxl mode is lame.
Also they are throwing a bone which is macromode while the zoom has not really improved....
Also let's not forget they released that dreadful Xperia 1 IV that was unreliable for shooting or video since mine overheated in a few minutes in any scenario.
More positives you forgot. There is no notch or cutout. There is a high fidelity audo port which can be used for audiophile headphones, 32 bit float audio recorders and wired monitoring headphones while filming. The phone offers a 1.5 TB micro sd card capacity...so unlimited storage at a price 5 times lower than other brands. You get a dedicated shutter button like a real camera and S-Cinetone like an Alpha camera. You don't seem to know what you are reviewing.
Okay, I'll play along.
What do you use your phone for that a tiny camera hole at the top will inhibit?
For the price of the 1VI, I can get something like the Vivo X100 Pro and a dedicated walkman with a 1+ TB card. How many years ago was it that LG actually released a phone with a worthwhile headphone jack?
I'm very keen on seeing some of your final products using S-cinetone from an Xperia. Feel free to link some in a reply.
Being able to film or take photos more comfortably doesn't mean much when the image quality is as bad as it is
Waiting for the pixel 9 pro to see how that is and depending on that will depend on what I upgrade to from my 1IV. The 1VI hasn't changed from mine as you say, it's got the same shit telephoto which takes blurry pics and unusable in low light without a tripod. Also the 2018 level of detail wide angle camera.
All my gear is sony, camera, headphones, TV etc but I'm looking forward to get rid of the phone. Average at best camera without any editing
@@fairygodbrother I'm in a similar situation. Most of my tech is Sony branded. I just hope their Alpha camera decision doesn't follow their smartphone division down to the bottom 😅
@@ShibiChanI hope not I'm too invested to turn back now 😂
It's so expensive and isn't available here in India.
You have to have it in your hands to criticize it. Personally the blur in macro is like the Vivo. Its price is really expensive except for the pre-order (WH-XM5 offered). To the wise :)
@@JohnnyTek1312 Yeah idk, I didn't have it in my hands and it was still incredibly easy to criticize ;)
And that's alright if you don't see a difference between how they render bokeh, that means you have more options that you're happy to choose from
Here are reasons why you SHOULDN'T pass in comparison with V:
1. Bravia AI tuned screen
2. 1.5x brighter screen
3. 120fps LTPO
4. Much much better battery performance (14+ hour SOT v.s. 7.5 hour SOT(V))
5. Macro mode
6. Longer zoom range
7. Unified camera interface
8. Camera glass is chipped in(more protective against wears and tears)
9. Much better heat ventilation
10. Optimized sound quality over 3.5mm headphone jack
11. Wifi7(6E for V)
12. Dynamic FPS in game
13. High density battery with 1+ year more life
14. Better Hifi direct sound output
15. Bluetooth 5.4(5.3 for V)
16. Better night photography quality
17. Intelligent charging mode
18. Snapdragon 3 + A750 = 25% performance boost
You know how Samsung(AKA Note7 grenade factory) improves their phone by squeezing little improvement year by year? Sony gave us a huge bundle in VI this year. I own V and it goes to my happy daddy after I get VI. If you stick with Sony, you made the right choice and you should continue to do it, bro!
Last Xperia i liked was the 5iii
the price is too expensive for a bar smartphone compared to other brand competitors.
vivo and xiaomi have taken over. this is sony's downfall now they are done
You only have to forget the chinese software spying on you
i totally agree
3:58 couldn't agree more. Sony has been lagging behind innovation wise and it shows
It's sad because they have every opportunity to innovate and truly stand out, but continuously choose not too. It's pretty disappointing
I agree but I don't think they're any better or worse than their main competition. Samsung s24 ultra us the same as the s23 ultra down to the 22 ultra. Apple doesn't innovate at all, and Google just works on software. I do think it was foolish of them to ditch the 4k screen, but at least they kept the headphone jack and expandable storage, which are two massive wins for me personally. They did innovate with the continuous zoom camera, which to my knowledge, is the only phone that offers that.
@@dtay8913 I agree that in concept the continuous zoom is innovative, but the fact that they charge a premium for it is not okay imo. 10 times out of 10, shooting the Xperia at the fastest f-stop then cropping into the desired focal length will yield a better result than if you used the variable zoom. You get less light the further you zoom, and more moving parts leads to much for room for error. This likely plays a large part in the streaking seen from point light sources when using the telephotos since the 1IV. So to me it doesn't feel much like an innovation, and more like a gimmick
@@dtay8913 right. I don't think any of the top phone brands have been innovating in the last few years. Major brands have all jumped on the same train as AAA video games, merely releasing a reskin of the previous model in a new coat of paint. It's pretty sad to see, but people still gobble it up as though it's worth the yearly $1K+ cost. My point was Sony felt like an outlier with their camera phones until as of late.
Thats the problem with most Japanese work environments..the nebies need to respect the elder worker,even they came with a more fresh idea,they still need to respect the elder decision...which is a lack of new fresh ideas..😅
Bro don’t you have the phone ?
@@swapnilbits Not the 1VI! I still have the 1V and 1IV for now
I was looking for the red Xperia he showed on the content but all I can't see is there's no red phone but trust me the Xperia 1vi camera is amazing and batteryyyyyyyyy network is amazing camera placement is clean .......
No 21:9, no notification led, terrible screen, camera UI downgraded to a discount apple lookalike, no sensor update
All the downgrades for the same high price! and the worst thing? people are eating it all up...
Yes, Sony Xperia is dead, thanks a lot, Marques
No butt hole in the screen! Unlike in your face!
That's really the best you've got? I expected better from an intellectual such as yourself
@@ShibiChan It's better than anything you said about the phone! So many you tubers, like you, who think their opinion means anything and the drivel they spew affects end users who know no better.
My S22U can stream UA-cam all night long and still have battery in the morning on power saving. My Xperia pro-I cannot.
@@z352kdaf8324 I've never had particularly great battery life on any of my Xperia devices, especially not the Pro-I haha. That thing was miserable!
You could cook burgers on that think
i mean sony is so cheap they arent even using LYt sensors. just exmor
@@balloonredd It's disappointing really. They have every chance to stand out, but keep choosing not to
Its a conscious decision made ny Sony, they are in the business of selling components, not devices. The Xperia exist just as a metric to measure their components at.
If they were to make a better phone than Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and the like. Then they would buy sensors from somone else like Omnivision, or GPixel.
Meaning whatever they gained with selling more capable xperias they lose in revenue overall since they will sell a TON LESS components to the other millions of phpnes that are sold each year
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI they wont buy form other manufactureres if sony made the best phone lol. they view them as a competitor same as everyone else. there is a reason why even when samsung has best panels for themselves others use samsung. xperia and sony semi are different divisions and rarely communicate.
I would rather say that their design division would never allow such clunky photographic devices like those camera phones. It would defeat 50 years of building that distinctive elegant functional design. Sony is also the last producer of 1 inch sensor point and shoot cameras and such a phone would render those even more obsolete than they are now.
Also, maybe they are also working on the successor of the Pro-I.
I will go for the Xiaomi 14 ultra for now.