James Bond Discussion Part 2 - It's Time for Moore Dalton!!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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This week we're talking about Bond, James Bond. We're covering off every single Bond film, This week it's Live & Let Die to Licence To Kill. That's right! Moore to Dalton.
We'll go film-by-film and give our take on what each film means to us.
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The John Glen run is my favourite era of Bond. Not saying they're ALL perfect but I love the general consistency and tone of them. Despite their more absurd moments, they all feel very grounded.
It is curious how John Glenn's directorial career really nose dived post Bond given he did a tv movie a year after LTK ['Checked Flag'] and Iron Eagle 3 in 1992. By 1994 he was directing episodes of Gerry Anderson's 'Space Precinct'.
@@jamesatkinsonja Yeah that's a shame because there seemed to be a cool hand at the rudder during this era.
Indeed, the man was solid
This is probably my favourite period of Bond films; the Glen run of the 80s. FYEO is far and away my favourite of the Moore films for how grounded it is and it gave Moore the opportunity to play a more serious Bond, and the disco score by Bill Conti is incredible, the car chase in Spain, the ski sequence and discovering the downed British spy ship have wonderful tracks accompanying those scenes. Octopussy I never watched much when I was younger but I was surprised watching it back again in recent years how much I enjoyed it barring the opening song. AVTAK is ok but less that the sun of its parts, Walken was an inspired choice for a villain but Moore was too old by then.
Timothy Dalton is my favourite Bond hands down, such a breath of fresh air after Moore’s tenure, I’ll always rue the circumstance that meant Dalton never returned after License to Kill but at the same time I cherish the time he had as Bond.
Duncan's been watching Calvin Dyson's videos!
Roger Moore is my go-to Bond. I grew up with his films mainly.The thing with Roger was that he'd be the humorous, affable Bond for 90% of the time, but when the time came he could be the cold-blooded assassin with zero effort. Whether defusing a bomb dressed as a clown or driving a car out of the ocean, he could sell the whole situation with class.
my first Bond was AVTAK so i'm a Sir Rog fan also.
@@zambonsfilmemporium1526 Yeah most of the ones we had recorded were Roger Moore's so that was my idea of Bond growing up
@@Thewingkongexchange to be fair, i can't remember seeing it as i was 3/4 years old so was only told later on it was my first. my actual first memory was watching GoldenEye on ITV when it premiered in 1999.
@@zambonsfilmemporium1526 Goldeneye was actually the first Bond I saw in cinemas (I was 10 I think). It was kinda awkward watching the Xenia sex kill with my folks tbh
I was really hoping to click on this and see Worlds Strongest Man.
Dalton was asked to audition/be considered [as apposed to 'being offered the part' as many say] for Bond earlier [most say 'OHMSS' but the man himself says Live and Let Die'] but decided not to proceed. After Licence to Kill, a third Dalton film was scripted under the working title of Bond 17 [not 'Property of a Lady' as often reported], details of which can be found in an excellent book by Mark Edlitz but was more in the tone of Brosnan's films and was eventually dropped. By the time legal issues around Bond were sorted, Dalton only wanted to do one more film but with the studio wanting to 'relaunch' Bond he was asked for longer term commitment and left after only seeing a first draft of what became Goldeneye which was heavily re-worked [by 3 other writers] once Pierce Brosnan signed on.
Glad your here mate :)
LALD-Does feel like a breath of fresh air after the 'Spectre' films. Interesting collection of villains and a good start for Moore.
TMWTGG-A rushed mess where nothing really happens for good chunks and many of the crew [including Moore and Cubby] weren't happy with the results. Probably has the weakest female characters in the series. Fleming only completed the first draft of the novel when he died which was published unaltered [the 'ghost writer' rumour is apparently false]
TSWLM: Fun outing helped by an increased budget and a re-energised crew. Stromberg is a weak link but Jaws more than makes up for it.
Moonraker: Undeniably both a star wars cash grab and pretty much TSWLM re-done while eventually 'jumping the shark' with the laser battle but it's fun and the space sequences look amazing.
FYEO: I feel Moore's performance is under rated as he has to play against his lighter instincts and does a good job. The silly bits [Bibi, the opening+ closing] let it down a little but a good directorial debut from John Glenn
Octopussy; The India and Cold War Europe ideas do feel like they've come from two different scripts but it's a fun adventure and helped by Moore being and top form with good chemistry with Maud Adam's [as real life friends there natural chemistry overcomes the 18 year age gap].
AVTAK: I know it has it's fans but I really get little out of it. The script is below par, the villains too cartoonish for me [especially the Nazi doctor] and Moore [blatantly doubled for many sequences] is too old and knows it ['I was about 400 years too old for the part']. Tanya Roberts isn't helped by chunky jargon and a lack of chemistry with Moore but is still badly miscast. May Day [seemingly inspired by Fatima in NSNA] is a memorable heavy.
Woooow, I remeber you guys from tears and years ago. Really Nice your still doing this stuff and nice to hear your thoughts on James Bond :)
Moonraker - someone who trys to catch the moon from a pond or lake etc by raking its surface
"Just like the moonraker knows, his dream will come true someday"
he rakes the pond confident in his own futility
"I know that you are only a kiss away"
she is confident that one day she will find her love, even though like the moonraker it will never happen.
Live and Let Die is my favourite Moore film. Often lamented, but actually very good. For Your Eyes Only is my second favourite Moore film. A darker take on Moore's Bond, which suited him rather well.
I can't believe you covered For Your Eyes Only and didn't mention the pre credits sequence and all of it's strange lines and McClory references that would make no sense to the general public and the death of 'Blofeld' down the chimney. 😂
When I watch a view to a kill I play a drinking game where every time Stacey Sutton says James I take a drink, I’m absolutely smashed by the end of the movie.
Brad definitely has a 'Stop getting Bond wrong!' moment at 12:43. We've all been there. My missus knows how that feels bless her. We've all been there. Poor us we should probably get out more. 😂 Ironically 'Nobody Does it Better' was the song my wife and I had as our first dance at our wedding in 2015.
Living Daylights: Good debut for Dalton as the 'cold war' elements harken back to Fleming. His relationship with the manipulated Kara is well done [partly as more time is spent with the pair together as there is no 'secondary love interest'. Necros is a good heavy but Koskov is underwritten [they should have just cut Brad Whittaker and beefed him up]. The last act is badly dated but overall it's a solid entry.
LTK: Going to get hate for this but...I don't like it. Felix being constantly re-cast means the attack at the start isn't as powerful as it should be [especially as his wife has about 5 mins screen time before being killed off] and the 'revenge' plot is a common one [such as 'Raw Deal' featuring Robert Davi]. It does pick up for me towards the end while Sanchez is an interesting mix of Tony Montana and Pablo Escobar [According to Davi Escobar was very complimentary!] but it's just not for me. 'Man on Fire' with Denzil Washing treads similar ground but for some reason I like that more.
Loved the vibe in both of these videos. A really enjoyable watch. Brad always gives you some great insight.
Really enjoyed this 👌
The Disco version f Moonraker is my ringtone
LATD - an interesting outlier in the series
TMWTGG - the exciting premise is let down by lacklustre and silly execution
TSWLM - Bond "bounces back". They pull all the stops out and it works
MR - it's pretty decent until Jaws shows up and it becomes a Road Runner cartoon. The "Bond in space" stuff is the least of its problems.
FYEO - One of my favourites. Cold War espionage, superb set-pieces and lots of cow bell
NSNA - an odd, parallel universe Bond that Connery's presence makes weirder. It may not be terrible, but I'd rather forget it
OP - A convoluted story and some awful gags but somehow it STILL works, partly thanks to amazing stunt work and a fantastic score
AVTAK - it's kinda bland, but perfectly fine with lots of practical work. Walken's turn and Barry's score are the highlights
TLD - one of the most epic Bond films, with some of the best set-pieces in the series
LTK - my fave Bond of all. Great villain, ruthless Bond, amazing finale. I LOVE how Bond goes out of his way to completely dismantle the villain's life and play him off against his most trusted people (after Sanchez makes a big thing about loyalty). A brave departure that didn't get the love it deserves.
Great discussion, but a bit too much cross-talk.
Wow…I bet you’re fun at parties.
GLANG....GLANGA LANGA LANG..
That's not how it ends, that's just the end of the beginning!
STOP DOING BOND WRONG
@@filteredjc4653 "he's got fingers as big as Schwarzenegger's arms" go on lift it!!!
@@oliverhiston4223 I wanted to see Roger Moore necking...instead I'm watching a giant Michael Bolton look alike throwing oven's over bales of hay!
@@jamesatkinsonja ahahaha that Michael Bolton reference kills me hahaha big buff Bolton!!
I look forward to the third part.👌
I always loved Roger Moore and the Spy who loved me - I wanted that white lotus esprit and come to think of it I wanted Barbara Bach too 😂 introduction of Jaws too - classic fun Bond
Great discussion Moonraker novel is imo the best Fleming novel
Unfortunately it got used as inspiration for Die Another Day!
I’m looking forward to that one next!
Miss Boo-kay 😅 brilliant
You can tell that Duncan loves the James Bonding Podcast :)
I do??
@@ValVerdeBroadcasting Doesn't everyone? :)
Matt Gourley does a pretty good Irvin Kermit impression on their podcasts 🐸
@@0nlycams14 That he does :)
@@0nlycams14 His Ian Fleming is also fun :)
The John Glen era of Bond gets better like fine wine. He kinda was the Christopher Macquarie of the Bond series. Love Octopussy, The Living Daylights, and License to Kill. Also, Roger Moore is the Adam West of Bond and there's nothing wrong with that. Like Batman, there's a Bond for everyone.
All those films were written by the writing team of Michael G. Wilson & Richard Maibaum which added to the consistency. The only exception was Octopussy where they got George MacDonald Frasier [of 'Flashman' fame] to help as he was an expert on India.
Agreed with the Roger Moore-Adam West comparison. Both played the part perfectly.