@@chadkelly1402 Hehe, that's fun, but as your resident grammar Nazi here (yeah, I'm still working for Roland/Boss Manuals): - I have "Signal Art Electroni" as the page name, was it the pasta? - "a reamp is designed to transformer balanced line level", perhaps you intended to use "transformer" as a verb, but I'd rather have "transform"... - "in addition to the mu metal can" the wut metal ? Yeah, I checked en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal out, but I'd never ever heard the term, and I doubt most of your potential clients here had either ;) Keep up the good work ;)
All radials have too much gain reduction from 10-11 db in case of ProRMP, to JCR and X-Amp. But transformer-based ones can be easily modified, just remove two resistors that formed voltage divider before transformer. Both ProRMP and JCR will be more controllable if you need more output.
@@le0_fx In case of ProRMP: www.dropbox.com/s/om364imx3rd7jgg/ProRMP_mod_v2.JPG?dl=0 (as was originally posted by me on Sneap forum on Ultimate metal) For JCR location of divider is different, I should find photos of JCR and exact resistor number, but such modification works nice. Also similar approach applicable to Reamp.V2, there is also divider before transformer. Maybe it`s is also possible for X-Amp, but it`s complicated, at least I need good photos of PCB inside from both sides to analyze schematics. First modification was to bypass 2 of 3 resistors: www.dropbox.com/s/36ntf8tji93keh6/ProRMP_mod_p2.JPG?dl=0, but better to remove all 3 and solder some wire instead of first 2 as in first picture.
@@LucifdeLuther got a JCR myself, and there are indeed resistors similar to those in the pictures. I'm reamping very soon, and might use this session to try this mod, so thanks alot!
I kicked my x-amp to the curb a long time ago. After years of trying to figure out why my tones were worse than they were before I started reamping. I thought my playing was just sloppier. I did everything I could to better my playing and nail my DIs. Lo and behold. Change out the x amp and it was magic. Another big help was getting rid of the J48 DI box and getting a countryman. The J48 is super dark and lacks natural pick attack in comparison.
Thanks Glenn! Chad is great to work with, just ordered my very own. I’ve ran into the same thing with my Radial X-amp also.... makes you feel like you have to compensate to get it where you want it. -Cheers
Holy shit Glenn! This as well as the other video has got me so excited to get home and reamp some bass tracks through a guitar amp. Ps my bass tone is crushing ever since I took your advice and used a guitar amp.
Sorry. Adding boost is not what a reamp is supposed to do. You can do it (or other things) with any signal. You want as clean as possible for a reamp, then boost, cut , eq as much as you like with the amp. It is not a signal modifier, its a level step-down (supposed to be)
Reviews say it's coloring the sound less than the Radial X Amp. But I've also read some say it lacks output if your interface doesn't have tons of output gain. Pretty happy with mine but I'm by no means a professional.
@@RedHeadGuitar I use the Palmer reamp box in combination with a focusrite scarlet 18i8 2nd gen. Granted that I have no experience with other reamp boxes I can say that I hear only an extremely small amount of coloration, barely noticeable and totally insignificant in a mix. The palmer has just enough output to be used with the scarlett but without any headroom. Considering it's price I think it's worth it.
The X-Amp's overall shittiness made me invest a lot into new recording gear until there was nothing more to be replaced than the Radial and then I found out that the Palmer does way better job for significantly less money.
Glen, I’m watching on my iPad with a pair of AKG earbuds & can hear the subtle differences between the Signal Art remap & the Radial. The Signal Art blows that Radial out of the water.
That is maybe the real secrete sauce. You can have the best guitar with the best pick-ups, the best pedals, interface, plugins. All that combined will sound really good but the details, that little extra pinch of spice, that will take something good and make it great. Potentially, it can equally make something that is good into something less good as shown with the X-amp. Spotting that difference takes a lot of experience and most of all A/B testing. If you have only one of something and it's always part of your signal chain, go barrow another one from a friend, buy and re-turn one from a store. A/B test every piece in your signal chain and never settle. Most (online) stores have great re-turn policies, use them.
I'm curious to see how the radial would do compared to the others if it was clean-boosted to the same level going into the amp. Obviously still not as good, since you'd be boosting the noise floor as well, but it would be cool to hear how much of the tone is just from the amp being driven harder by a louder signal and how much is the radial box actually changing the tonal quality of the signal.
I feel like the magic behind this is the transformers. Something I need to seriously re-evaluate in my setup because I'm running into all kinds of mud problems.
Before even watching the video, so no commentary on the units shown here but if anyone is on a budget the Palmer Daccapo is excellent for not much money at all. It's a passive reamper but beats out many many other models I've tried. If you don't believe me David Gnozzi uses one too ;)
The only good reamper from Radial is JCR. X-AMP is not so bad for guitars, but for bass it is useless. It sucks all the low end out. But JCR is amazing, total opposite.
Radial make great di boxes that last but I guess they just didnt get it quite right with the x amp. There great live because they are built to last. Got my bluetooth in ear buds in and can definatly here the radial sounding weaker. The other boxes the guitars just sound so much bigger
I found the same thing with my Radial Pro-RMP which seems to cut the signal by about 4db even with everything maxed. I'm able to work around it by using a mild boost from a limiter on my reamp bus, but I can't really do that when making ToneX captures. I've seen a bunch of references to an easy hack to remove this pad physically, but can't find it anymore.
I just did reamping line out from reaper soloed to a separate out to the yellow x amp reamp box to a vox ac10. My x amp yellow reamp box is hardly on volume wise and it is really loud. I'm not sure you have your setup correct.
Ive got that yellow one, at the time i did it, it sounded like sh^t to me, but then i used a j48 for the signal that's why LOL I'll try it again, and see if its better now that i have countryman 10, and got a boost pedal for the reamp as well .
The biggest difference is the transformer. The X Amp's tranformer is much less expensive and it's frequency response is narrower. That's why the top end is low passed and the low end is hi passed.
The Cinemag trans in the Signal Art retails for under $70.00 US. The x-amp is active, the Signal Art is passive, apples and oranges. The circuit and components in the X-Amp probably add up I to a fair amount more that what’s in the more expensive Signal Art, plus the X-Amp drives two amps, blah diddy fucking blah.
Travis T - they make great transformers no doubt. I think this comparison is cool but kind of irrelevant because active and passive circuits are so different. Comparing it to the JCR would be more sensible. I think Glen had a girlfriend that left him for a bass player that worked at Radial.
X-Amp is active reamp-box, transformer (same as in ProRMP) only on secondary output. Main problem is overall gain reduction in all 3 Radial`s units. I think that engineer`s intent was provide reamping capabities for vintage sound, not metal where you need recreate large output signal.
Lucif de Luther -there’s no overall gain reduction, you’re supposed to level match coming out of your DAW, or source. The Angry Signal Art adds 6dB boost which could be cool. You could also run the Signal coming out the reamp into a boost or overdrive pedal to add level or gain if you like, that’s what most people will do anyway.
Just wondering, noob question, what if you would compensate the lack of gain of the Radial box by increasing the gain in the amp ? On the same idea, could you increase a bit the gain of track ? I'm learning, sorry for the stupid questions :) Trying to select the right equipment and looking at the balance between performance/features vs price when selecting something.
Curious to see if you could make a follow up video comparing it to the Radial JCR as I feel like most people that picked up a reamp box likely got that. Is the Angry an active reamp box? JCR is passive, so if the Angry one is active. There could be a benefit to having both 🤔 If the Angry is passive, then the JCR would be a more proper comparison to the Radial equivalent.
It would've been nice to see a comparison of your signal levels both on the way in and out. I say that because I don't really have trouble with my Radial boxes. I also have a DI I'm really happy with that I think helps. Thanks for the review though! I need to buy one now and try for myself
Hmm... Nothing changed but the reamp box, you say... So is it possible that turning up the volume out of the DAW would have fixed the problem and got the Radial to sound just as good? I'm not a Pro like you but to my ears it sounded like a weaker signal. Different gear might need different signals on the way in to reach their highest potential?@@SpectreSoundStudios
I remember reading on the Sneap forum how Radial's reamp boxes have a tendency of cutting down the volume by 10dB. The passive boxes can be modified by removing two resistors (haven't tried this on my Pro RMP). This cannot be done with the active devices.
You probably miss spoke but for the reference of everyone else who is learning you can hear down to about 25hz ish however below that depending on the person it becomes too low for your brain to precive it as a sound, we have less ability to hear lower frequencies (look up Fletcher Munson curves to read further), hope that helps :)
Hey. First of all, apologies for the long comment, but this is something that I've been having issues to find proper information about. I would love to hear about FRFR powered speakers/cabs, and in general, the best ways to play at home using amps with load boxes and IRs or any type of cab simulation, without being stuck next to the PC or with my headphones. This can include anything from a Torpedo Capture, or a completely digital solution like AxeFx or the Helix units. I'm specially curious, because I remember one of your complaints on cheap practice amps with built-in modeling was the use of tweeter speakers and it's full range response, but I guess if you are playing a simulation of a a cab mic'ed, you kinda need to do that, since you're trying to emulate the full sound the mics capture, as opposed to the direct behavior of a speaker. Crappy modeling will be crappy, but that specific point of the response of the speakers made me wonder what would an acceptable solution would be instead. I know I can always bypass the cab emulation and connect straight to one, but the possibilities of IRs are amazing, and with so many gear coming that allows you to play with those without being stuck to a PC made me want to look for viable options. Love the show, keep it up!
The entire purpose of reamping has a for control after the fact. One big thing people miss is these reamp boxes are not for recording tracks at the pre mixing stage, they are for tweaking after the main mix is finalized but the guitars need to be adjusted and the original performer is not there. This is why no reamp will ever and I mean ever will sound as if the original player is playing the instrument because humans tend to very attacks on strings based on what they are hearing on the cans. It’s a tool but not a replacement for a real human interaction with a real amp.
I've noticed some quality issues with Radial passive direct boxes over the last couple of years. I have a stereo DI that has failed on one channel and in spite of my best attempts to track down where the failure point is, I can't seem to get both channels to pass signal at the same level. I don't know whats going on over there, but this wasn't a problem 15+ years ago
Ok Glen heres a good question. If you feel like radial amps are a bit shit , what do you think about radial DI boxes? Are there Di that you would recomend over the Radial .
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I follow this channel. I'm sorry Glenn, I think you are hating a little too much on the Radial. After listening and even doing a blind listen I didn't hear the "DRASTIC" change that you indicate. Yea, maybe a slight diff but again, I think you are not being completely fair here. I think if I setup a blind test you would likely pick the X-AMP as the best just as often as the other two. Not being a jerk here, but this is one of the few times in following your channel you seem to be leaning towards the guys you know that gave you the gear. Its human nature. Just saying man. My two cents.
Seeing that quick clip of your old video really shows how much weight you’ve lost. Well done Glenn! I’m gonna try IF and keto, based on recommendations from you and from Eyal Levi. Sorry to comment off topic, but I just wanted to say it!
IF in long term will deprive you of your minerals, bone structure will suffer and your joints will as well. Don't over do it! Keto as well... The most important is a regular training every day...
Also, I’m monitoring what I take in to make sure nothing important is left out. A lack of “minerals and bone structure” are only gonna happen if you’re an idiot about it lol.
I am starting to think that maybe we should record DI track a bit louder? I'm a bit unsatisfied with my reamps being a little thin. Will try that next time I hit Rec!
So if I'm understanding things correctly, the reampers have different impedances which results in different levels of signals. Could you just compensate on the input of the preamp for the signal loss or does that increase the noise floor so it's better to have a louder output from the reamp box? I mean it's obviously better but I'm just wondering if one could get away compensating on the input stage if we don't have a good reamper?
Most probably a stupid suggestion but have you tried to boost the signal with some kind of clean boost pedal in front of the amp? The noise floor will be boosted as well I guess but will it be noticeable in the mix?
I always thought I simply had a bad/broken X-Amp box. Good to finally know it wasn't just mine, but that they generally seem to be lacking something designwise...
What do you recommend for a cheap-ish guitar D.I. Glenn? We use guitars with passive pickups. Thanks btw this vid was very interesting and useful, I'll check into upgrading my yellow X-amp for one of the boxes showcased here.
Keep in mind he used an older model xamp so yours may not actually have the issue. You may not need a di box if your interface has a hi-z input. The only use for a DI is if you want to track the amp at the same time or the guitarist can't play his part without hearing it in an amp. But if that's the case the problem is probably not your gear, just your guitarist.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 We need a DI since we reamp. But yeah we'll try to plug direct in my buddy's interface with (High-Z enabled) this time I think and forego the separate D.I. box. He has a Focusrite Scarlet 2nd gen and another older Focusrite which model name I forgot. Apparently there's not a ton of difference between that and a cheaper D.I. The X-Amp sounded fine to us last time we used it so I think we'll stick with that as well.
Well it sounds like a major drop in signal with the X-Amp, have you compared the signal output by making a closed loop (you send you reamped signal back to your interface). I have had the ProRMP which is another reamp box by Radial and the output was shit. Even cranked, it was impossible to get the right output, it was always too low. I have seen switched to a Palmer Daccapo and I have no problem anymore.
No 1/4" I/O on the box? Could always use a splitter to feed the amp but I think you'd definitely need that feature sooner than later unless I'm mistaken. Either way cheers!
The X-Amp has a very low input impedance - 600 Ohm. This does not play well at all with the impedance output on many enthusiast-level audio interfaces and even some of the higher end ones. For instance, the output impedance on the RME Babyface Pro is 300 Ohm. To drive the X-Amp properly it should have been 60 Ohm. This is likely the reason why the X-Amp loses in these tests.
So the Signal goes DAW->Interface->ReampBox->Amp->Speaker->Mic->Interface Don't you get alot of latency ? And if yes, how do you compensate that efficiently so it is in sync with the song?
That’s nuts! I heard the difference on a fucking phone speaker. I was more curious about your thoughts, but god damn! It definitely sinked back in the mix. I use the little labs red eye for DI and reamping. Curious how it stacks up against that brand.
Interesting. There is a comparison between a Radial and a Palmer Dacappo somewhere here in YT. That also gave that issue with the high end. Anyway, that also showed how the highs actually dropped in comparison to the Palmer. For good measure. The Palmer costs about 70€. For that Radial provides you an empty box. Talking about overpriced.
@@regortex3364 In order to carbon copy Andy Sneap? Nah. Andy Sneap is his own great self. Then we should have his entire setup. I was thinking of a ghetto method. *Eyeing my TC2240* :D Something completely different will probably come out of it.
I almost got the Radial after seeing it recommended in Part 11 of the Total Heavy Guitar course too man. The Radial works fine, and it'll get the job done, so don't beat yourself up over it. Glenn was using it for "10-13 years." There'll be newer and better-designed products always within time. However, if you are tempted to sell it and buy a Signal Art, I certainly can say its fantastic. Received mine a month or two ago. Chad Kelly makes a well crafted reamp box. It is very transparent and super accurate. Btw the way, Total Heavy Guitar is an amazing course. Best $97 I spent during that sale.
reallity is that I dont give a f... for Metal or guitars ,,but I love your show , thanks man for so much fun ,,,by the way I am not a bass Player ,,,:) PD just started with reaper, and looks good so far!!!!!!
When reamping. I always need to fiddle with the signal from the DAW. The DI sounds a bit dull when I’m sending it out to the reamp box. A bit compression on clean guitars and some clipping on heavy distorted sounds. Bang it sounds brutal as fuck. But I never managed to make it as good when it’s just coming from a guitar into the amp. :(
the xamp does seem to lose something. i almost always reamp into amp sims so I rarely use my reamp box. i have different reamp box from radial, seems fine.
Have you ever used a Marshall JCM 2000 in your studio Glenn? I had one in 2008 and it was actually a pretty good amp but it seems like Marshall has swept it under the rug in seeming embarrassment.
You are high. They still make the JCM 2000 to this day. It's a fantastic amp and to this day I still want one. The only issue is the new version of it has digital reverb instead of the spring it used to have. So I'd want an older version. That being said people didn't like the spring reverb as they tend to break with age and it costs a lot to repair/replace them. The illusion that they don't sell well comes from the fact that people hated the 900 and so it flooded the second had market and everyone picked up cheap 900's instead of buying a new 2000. Not really an issue but that's why it would look that way. It also had to compete with the new rectifiers and 5150's when in the 80's marshall dominated the market.
I assume it's my headphones but I don't hear any difference between the three. I do hear the difference between the over drive takes and the non overdrive takes but I cant hear anything between the three reamp boxes. Not saying its not there, i just don't hear it in my headphones.
I had a buddy reamp some DI tracks for me through his Dual Rectifier and I'm fairly certain he has the same box. Now I know why they sounded so underwhelming.
If you are reamping just use your Daw to loop. The looper pedal is good if you want to compare tones live on camera so people can see you visible affecting the tone. If you are doing it on your own there is no need for the pedal as you can loop the track in your daw.
Loopers are made for performance. They tend to compress and (Boss) degrade the recorded material as it is mostly intended to be played over, which masks the lo-fi DAC and low audio bitrate used. TL;DR: use the right tool for the job at hand, loopers for performance, di-daw-reamp for studio.
A Re-Amping Question. I live in an apartment so I have to re-amp everything, may Henning Pauly forgive me. Until now I've been running my bass through a samson MDA1 direct box into my Steinberg UR44 interface. But I've just upgraded my bass rig to a Trace Elliot ELF head and a Peavey cabinet. The Trace Elliot head has a DI out. Should I be using the Trace Elliot head for the bass DI signal instead of the samson DI box ? Would the fact that I'd be re-amp using the same head have any detrimental effect ?
Depends on if your Trace head DI has cab sim or not and if you are running flat eq or not etc. If you are going to use the trace to DI I'd run all the eq flat and if it has a parametric eq bypass I'd bypass it. Get your track recorded that way. Then set your amp back to the setting you had them then reamp it that way. Otherwise you are double eqing it and then will be un eqing in your Daw. So I'd run the samson DI into your Daw then reamp into your trace. Most amp DI's are eq'd and have sansamp type circuits as they are designed to DI to front of house mixer, not so much recording.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 The head has a XLR DI out. I made a recording with the head EQ'd all nice. Then when I Re-Amped it through my Re-Amp box and everything, I just 5-ed it out. And I think it came out quite good.
pardon the neewby question, but why not come out of the interface to amp front? i understand it has to be gain staged right to attempt, but why need a reamp box? whats the circuit doing differently?
@@SpectreSoundStudios im sure glenn and i trust your wisdom and actually thinking of investing now. just trying to get a mental picture as to whats happening that makes the night and day difference. the difference between the radial and the other is massive so im guessing its complete shit without a reamp box....
It’s not just a matter of volume but giving the signal the proper impedance for a guitar preamp to behave properly. My quotation is why there is not a drag control on the active reamp like there is on the radial switchbone jx2. I personally use the JCR. It’s passive, great sounding and has more than enough level. In fact I have the volume trim down all the way.
Most DI's and re-amps are passive, so the volume knob only acts as a cut not a boost. So having it "full blast" is just having the volume neutral. Peoples lack of knowledge is showing hard on this thread
So without the thousands of pieces of specialized audio junk, you can purchase today. We never had such stuff. We created everything in analog. Today you reap the benefits. With digital and hardware recreations. As simple as getting a combo meal from McDonald's. You don't have to order the burger and fries and the soft drink, separately. It comes as a package called a combo DI re-amp, kids meal. And includes a free toy. You can't choke on. No matter how hard you try. As you really won't choke with a watercolor tattoo stamp you stick on your tongue. I've been trying to find one with an RCA 77 DX microphone. None to date. Just little doodles. So I'm bummed. No artificial watercolor tattoos of RCA 77 DX microphones. So I'll just have to get a real tattoo one day. When I'm old enough to after 65. And I need to revisit my childhood I never had as a recording engineer. As I've been doing this since I was 15 years old professionally. That was 50 years ago. And you pick up a few things along the way. Before UA-cam and the Internet ever existed. So, George Massenburg, Bruce Swedien, Bob Clearmountain, myself and others. We were taught that's where you plug in the microphone. The rest was up to us. And we did it all in analog. How's that possible? You make it possible. Variable speed devices for your analog tape recorders. $30 battery-operated cassette recorders. Sony and Pioneer consumer cassette decks. With built-in limiters you can switch on or off. 5 band octave wide consumer graphic equalizers for $50.. And they can work amazingly well. No matter how awful they sound. Then you tear out the 1 inch diameter computer speaker from an old broken computer. You tape that to a paper towel cardboard tube. And you put a microphone in the other end and tape that closed. And give that a listen. And it will be like what the FUCK? Why didn't I think of this before? You can also do that with a garden hose. And create an analog, delay line. UREI produced the same thing years ago. Before we had digital delays. Use a garden hose. It'll sound funky. Or like Sylvia does. Just lay the garden hose around the drum set. And put a 57 into each end. And tape it closed. Add in the bass drum and snare drum microphones. And it's a holy shit moment. Yes it is. So it doesn't matter what you do or what you have. You use what you have. You make it work for you. You create sounds with it. Accuracy is not a factor here. Fun is. You have fun creating a musical audible work of musical art. And there is no right. There is no wrong. It's art. Some people will love it. Others will despise it. And the trick here is getting more to love it. Of what you have done and the way you have gone about doing. And that's what people are hearing. That is what they are listening for. They are listening to make you make them feel good. It's not about the accuracy or, technical gobbledygook gizmos you have to plug in. You merely have to learn how to pull a rabbit. Out of your ass. Without getting that cute little white bunny all brown and stinky sounding full of shit sound. You need to pull a cute little white fuzzy bunny out of your ass. That still cute white and adorable. And that doesn't smell bad. So you have to watch the pizza and Chinese food you eat. Otherwise you could kill that bunny and have a stillbirth bunny, out of your ass. And everyone will know you are a shit recording engineer and mixer. And your bunnies all look like and sound like shit. We don't like shit bunnies. We like cute and fun sounding bunnies. You know that cute little sound when they wiggle their nose. And not when they are hitting the ejection seat to quickly exit your ass. We are specialists in turd polishing RemyRAD
You mean to tell me the of the shelf x amp can't compete with something you've had modified with a custom transformer? I'm fucking shocked. Maybe I missed something else, but did anyone really expect the x amp to win?
I have the Radial X-amp which works great! I have not had any issues with bass, either. But, since I got the UAOX reamping has become a thing of the past!
Sounds like the radial just isn’t hitting the front end of amp as hard the others? I agree that the others sound better but without hearing the guitar plugged into the amp we have no comparison. Technically the radial could be the most accurate of the 3 and we would have no way of knowing without hearing a recording of the real guitar into the same amp with no DI in the way or anything. Maybe in the future lets do that so assholes like me won’t complain. 🤣🤣.
You're exactly right. I have an X amp. Before I started reamping I did a A/B test of the reamp vs direct amp. I found that you do lose a bit of signal when reamping but you just apply some makeup gain to the di and it fixes it. The signal art transformers aren't class a either so they change the signal making it warmer which also adds to the tone which explains the difference in this video.
@@EpilepticFingers interesting. I have the X-Amp and am trying to figure out how to get adequate gain in the amr when reamping. So how exactly do you obtain the ''makeup gain''? by turning up the output in the Daw? or by turning up the volume on the interface? or both? I assume you then run the X-Amp itself at max output.
@@FinalBaton if you want a warmer tone like the signal art reamp boxes a tube mic pre. If you want it to sound the same as using your amp directly just raise the di track fader above unity by a few db. Do an A/B test to get the level right. Yeah I keep the X amp output dimed.
@KC hahaha! i dunno if hes fucked up, but I've certainly never run into that issue. im not sure if the blue one is different from the yellow one (the one i have) or not. could be the issue. who the fuck knows, haha!
Re-amping, is this computer based tech? I record using a tascam dp32sd would that still be beneficial for me to buy and use? Can't get enough of your vids (especially musician texts, piss myself laughing every time I watch them 😂😂😂)
Reamp is for when you want to take any recorded signal and and run it through any other connection. You can use it for amps, but if you can reamp just pedals if you want. You can record your DI signal into your unit and then send it out through each pedal independently if you want. It's just a line level converter. It does the opposite of a DI box. or both at the same time. DI converts your unbalanced guitar signal to be balanced signal, reamp takes balanced mixer signal to be an unbalanced guitar level. Although if the pic I'm looking at is correct for your Tascam then your output is unbalanced already and don't need a reamp box. Just mute all the tracks except for the dry and run the Dry guitar signal out of the fx send into your amp and record the cab that way. You also don't need a Di if I'm looking at the correct model as your unit has a dedicated guitar input. Just make sure the switch is set to guitar on the H input. If your unit only had balanced outputs (the monitor out) then you can use a reamp box to take that balanced signal and make it unbalanced for your amp. But it looks as though your unit is both DI and Reamp. The manual should cover reamping. Alternatively you can also use your monitor out to re amp through any hardware you have for mixing mastering. So you can run the output through a line level compressor or any outboard rack unit and then back into your inputs line level. Just make sure you aren't panning the out channel to the other output otherwise you'll get no signal. Ie don't pan left in your daw and then use the Right send plug
You're right, we can, but from what I understand we do have trouble actually hearing distinct frequencies down there. We kinda more perceive it than hear it. Even with bass instruments that go down in that pitch range, we're mostly hearing the overtones.
There is give and take all around... what is it, 20-20000 is human hearing... but with that said some can hear quite a bit higher, but also some cant even make it past 12k, those numbers are more guidelines then hard rules.
Well, in the beginning the difference was like night and day but, as you said, my untrained ears already couldnt tell the difference anymore at around 11:30.
Hi, I apologize for that. The site was quoting the shipping rate I had initially set up for tube microphones (a MUCH larger box) and I forgot to fix it for the ReAmp. Fixed now! Thanks! -CK
Hi. Can the shipping to Canada be lowered for an order of one reamp box? Currently it's $50 USD, which is way too high. I've never paid more than $30 USD for shipping a small box like this.
As a bass player, I don't understand how to click the link to the other video.
It could be worse, you could be a basement producer.
@@regortex3364 is that a euphemism?
Or a basement producer recording bass
Dave Duffy - a bassment producer
@@regortex3364 in a slab home.
Missed opportunity to call it the Ang Reamp
Hmmm. It’s not too late
Kevin You won the internet today!
www.signalartelectronics.com/product-page/signal-art-ang-reamp actually fixed that a few wks ago! thanks! -CK
@@chadkelly1402 Hehe, that's fun, but as your resident grammar Nazi here (yeah, I'm still working for Roland/Boss Manuals):
- I have "Signal Art Electroni" as the page name, was it the pasta?
- "a reamp is designed to transformer balanced line level", perhaps you intended to use "transformer" as a verb, but I'd rather have "transform"...
- "in addition to the mu metal can" the wut metal ? Yeah, I checked en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal out, but I'd never ever heard the term, and I doubt most of your potential clients here had either ;)
Keep up the good work ;)
@@CyberChrist I doff my chapeau in your general direction , Sir .
I re-amp almost daily. Radial JCR is the best reamp box I have ever used. Gonna have to check this out.
All radials have too much gain reduction from 10-11 db in case of ProRMP, to JCR and X-Amp. But transformer-based ones can be easily modified, just remove two resistors that formed voltage divider before transformer. Both ProRMP and JCR will be more controllable if you need more output.
Right.
@@LucifdeLuther what exactly has to be done? is there anything online detailing that modification?
@@le0_fx In case of ProRMP: www.dropbox.com/s/om364imx3rd7jgg/ProRMP_mod_v2.JPG?dl=0 (as was originally posted by me on Sneap forum on Ultimate metal)
For JCR location of divider is different, I should find photos of JCR and exact resistor number, but such modification works nice. Also similar approach applicable to Reamp.V2, there is also divider before transformer. Maybe it`s is also possible for X-Amp, but it`s complicated, at least I need good photos of PCB inside from both sides to analyze schematics.
First modification was to bypass 2 of 3 resistors: www.dropbox.com/s/36ntf8tji93keh6/ProRMP_mod_p2.JPG?dl=0, but better to remove all 3 and solder some wire instead of first 2 as in first picture.
@@LucifdeLuther got a JCR myself, and there are indeed resistors similar to those in the pictures. I'm reamping very soon, and might use this session to try this mod, so thanks alot!
I kicked my x-amp to the curb a long time ago. After years of trying to figure out why my tones were worse than they were before I started reamping. I thought my playing was just sloppier. I did everything I could to better my playing and nail my DIs. Lo and behold. Change out the x amp and it was magic. Another big help was getting rid of the J48 DI box and getting a countryman. The J48 is super dark and lacks natural pick attack in comparison.
"Not my fault, maybe its the gear"- a guitarist lifelong mantra
Thanks Glenn!
Chad is great to work with, just ordered my very own.
I’ve ran into the same thing with my Radial X-amp also.... makes you feel like you have to compensate to get it where you want it.
-Cheers
Holy shit Glenn! This as well as the other video has got me so excited to get home and reamp some bass tracks through a guitar amp. Ps my bass tone is crushing ever since I took your advice and used a guitar amp.
Sorry. Adding boost is not what a reamp is supposed to do. You can do it (or other things) with any signal. You want as clean as possible for a reamp, then boost, cut , eq as much as you like with the amp. It is not a signal modifier, its a level step-down (supposed to be)
I would love to see a comparison with the 65 EUR Palmer reamp box and whether you think the price difference is justified.
Reviews say it's coloring the sound less than the Radial X Amp. But I've also read some say it lacks output if your interface doesn't have tons of output gain. Pretty happy with mine but I'm by no means a professional.
@@RedHeadGuitar I use the Palmer reamp box in combination with a focusrite scarlet 18i8 2nd gen. Granted that I have no experience with other reamp boxes I can say that I hear only an extremely small amount of coloration, barely noticeable and totally insignificant in a mix. The palmer has just enough output to be used with the scarlett but without any headroom. Considering it's price I think it's worth it.
The X-Amp's overall shittiness made me invest a lot into new recording gear until there was nothing more to be replaced than the Radial and then I found out that the Palmer does way better job for significantly less money.
Glen, I’m watching on my iPad with a pair of AKG earbuds & can hear the subtle differences between the Signal Art remap & the Radial. The Signal Art blows that Radial out of the water.
Thank you for making the tracks available, no one else does that!
That is maybe the real secrete sauce. You can have the best guitar with the best pick-ups, the best pedals, interface, plugins. All that combined will sound really good but the details, that little extra pinch of spice, that will take something good and make it great. Potentially, it can equally make something that is good into something less good as shown with the X-amp. Spotting that difference takes a lot of experience and most of all A/B testing.
If you have only one of something and it's always part of your signal chain, go barrow another one from a friend, buy and re-turn one from a store. A/B test every piece in your signal chain and never settle. Most (online) stores have great re-turn policies, use them.
I'm curious to see how the radial would do compared to the others if it was clean-boosted to the same level going into the amp.
Obviously still not as good, since you'd be boosting the noise floor as well, but it would be cool to hear how much of the tone is just from the amp being driven harder by a louder signal and how much is the radial box actually changing the tonal quality of the signal.
You know one piece of equipment sucks, compared to the other, when you can hear the differance on a tiny phone speaker.
I feel like the magic behind this is the transformers. Something I need to seriously re-evaluate in my setup because I'm running into all kinds of mud problems.
Before even watching the video, so no commentary on the units shown here but if anyone is on a budget the Palmer Daccapo is excellent for not much money at all. It's a passive reamper but beats out many many other models I've tried. If you don't believe me David Gnozzi uses one too ;)
The only good reamper from Radial is JCR. X-AMP is not so bad for guitars, but for bass it is useless. It sucks all the low end out. But JCR is amazing, total opposite.
Even the DIYRE L2A kills the X-Amp...and it's $50.
I've had a JCR for almost 10 years. Very little difference if any comparing OG to reamp'd sound
@@blakepennycook8952 yes, JCR is amazing. Also the same price as X-Amp. So no contest here.
Was just about to post the same statement. RADIAL JCR just can't be beat.
Radial make great di boxes that last but I guess they just didnt get it quite right with the x amp. There great live because they are built to last.
Got my bluetooth in ear buds in and can definatly here the radial sounding weaker. The other boxes the guitars just sound so much bigger
I found the same thing with my Radial Pro-RMP which seems to cut the signal by about 4db even with everything maxed. I'm able to work around it by using a mild boost from a limiter on my reamp bus, but I can't really do that when making ToneX captures. I've seen a bunch of references to an easy hack to remove this pad physically, but can't find it anymore.
I just did reamping line out from reaper soloed to a separate out to the yellow x amp reamp box to a vox ac10. My x amp yellow reamp box is hardly on volume wise and it is really loud. I'm not sure you have your setup correct.
_"So simple, even a bass player could do it."_
Oof, low blow. 😁
The X-amp from radial is refurbished no? Now it is active. And yellow. How does that one compare I wonder.
Ive got that yellow one, at the time i did it, it sounded like sh^t to me, but then i used a j48 for the signal that's why LOL I'll try it again, and see if its better now that i have countryman 10, and got a boost pedal for the reamp as well .
The biggest difference is the transformer. The X Amp's tranformer is much less expensive and it's frequency response is narrower. That's why the top end is low passed and the low end is hi passed.
The Cinemag trans in the Signal Art retails for under $70.00 US. The x-amp is active, the Signal Art is passive, apples and oranges. The circuit and components in the X-Amp probably add up I to a fair amount more that what’s in the more expensive Signal Art, plus the X-Amp drives two amps, blah diddy fucking blah.
@@regortex3364 Ah, it has a Cine-mag! That's the game right there. No wonder it sounds better! 👑
Travis T - they make great transformers no doubt. I think this comparison is cool but kind of irrelevant because active and passive circuits are so different. Comparing it to the JCR would be more sensible. I think Glen had a girlfriend that left him for a bass player that worked at Radial.
X-Amp is active reamp-box, transformer (same as in ProRMP) only on secondary output. Main problem is overall gain reduction in all 3 Radial`s units. I think that engineer`s intent was provide reamping capabities for vintage sound, not metal where you need recreate large output signal.
Lucif de Luther -there’s no overall gain reduction, you’re supposed to level match coming out of your DAW, or source. The Angry Signal Art adds 6dB boost which could be cool. You could also run the Signal coming out the reamp into a boost or overdrive pedal to add level or gain if you like, that’s what most people will do anyway.
Would love to see Two Notes Reload thrown into this shoot-out...
Just wondering, noob question, what if you would compensate the lack of gain of the Radial box by increasing the gain in the amp ? On the same idea, could you increase a bit the gain of track ? I'm learning, sorry for the stupid questions :) Trying to select the right equipment and looking at the balance between performance/features vs price when selecting something.
I think I finally found out what's wrong with my setup... I don't use any of these, but still. That something so simple can change so much.
Thanks 🤘
Would have liked to see how the re-amps sounded compared to playing the guitar straight into the amp. That would be the real test.
Agreed. Also for those that have the x-amp or other reamp boxes, put an eq pedal or boost after a reamp box to shape the D.I. signal into the amp.
Curious to see if you could make a follow up video comparing it to the Radial JCR as I feel like most people that picked up a reamp box likely got that. Is the Angry an active reamp box? JCR is passive, so if the Angry one is active. There could be a benefit to having both 🤔 If the Angry is passive, then the JCR would be a more proper comparison to the Radial equivalent.
It would've been nice to see a comparison of your signal levels both on the way in and out. I say that because I don't really have trouble with my Radial boxes. I also have a DI I'm really happy with that I think helps.
Thanks for the review though! I need to buy one now and try for myself
Levels were explained! Nothing changed but the reamp box.
Hmm... Nothing changed but the reamp box, you say... So is it possible that turning up the volume out of the DAW would have fixed the problem and got the Radial to sound just as good? I'm not a Pro like you but to my ears it sounded like a weaker signal. Different gear might need different signals on the way in to reach their highest potential?@@SpectreSoundStudios
I’ve got my order in with Signal Art! So excited to start playing with gain vs actual output level. Got both on the way. Great video🤟
I remember reading on the Sneap forum how Radial's reamp boxes have a tendency of cutting down the volume by 10dB. The passive boxes can be modified by removing two resistors (haven't tried this on my Pro RMP). This cannot be done with the active devices.
Same modifications also helps JCR, which have even higher reduction.
You probably miss spoke but for the reference of everyone else who is learning you can hear down to about 25hz ish however below that depending on the person it becomes too low for your brain to precive it as a sound, we have less ability to hear lower frequencies (look up Fletcher Munson curves to read further), hope that helps :)
I paused and laughed when you switched to the Radial. Definitely bookmarking the signalart page and saving up
Hey. First of all, apologies for the long comment, but this is something that I've been having issues to find proper information about.
I would love to hear about FRFR powered speakers/cabs, and in general, the best ways to play at home using amps with load boxes and IRs or any type of cab simulation, without being stuck next to the PC or with my headphones. This can include anything from a Torpedo Capture, or a completely digital solution like AxeFx or the Helix units.
I'm specially curious, because I remember one of your complaints on cheap practice amps with built-in modeling was the use of tweeter speakers and it's full range response, but I guess if you are playing a simulation of a a cab mic'ed, you kinda need to do that, since you're trying to emulate the full sound the mics capture, as opposed to the direct behavior of a speaker. Crappy modeling will be crappy, but that specific point of the response of the speakers made me wonder what would an acceptable solution would be instead. I know I can always bypass the cab emulation and connect straight to one, but the possibilities of IRs are amazing, and with so many gear coming that allows you to play with those without being stuck to a PC made me want to look for viable options.
Love the show, keep it up!
The entire purpose of reamping has a for control after the fact. One big thing people miss is these reamp boxes are not for recording tracks at the pre mixing stage, they are for tweaking after the main mix is finalized but the guitars need to be adjusted and the original performer is not there. This is why no reamp will ever and I mean ever will sound as if the original player is playing the instrument because humans tend to very attacks on strings based on what they are hearing on the cans. It’s a tool but not a replacement for a real human interaction with a real amp.
Yet again you’ve knocked it out of the box great job brother
Interesting Video! What do you think of the Palmer DACCAPO Reamping Box? It is significantly cheaper, but does it also sound cheaper?
I've noticed some quality issues with Radial passive direct boxes over the last couple of years. I have a stereo DI that has failed on one channel and in spite of my best attempts to track down where the failure point is, I can't seem to get both channels to pass signal at the same level. I don't know whats going on over there, but this wasn't a problem 15+ years ago
Ok Glen heres a good question. If you feel like radial amps are a bit shit , what do you think about radial DI boxes? Are there Di that you would recomend over the Radial .
RIP, I bought an x amp back in March before lockdown... Doubt I can return it... Oh well, great video as usual.
Have you done much with a Torpedo reload, whats your opinion on that as a reamp box?
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I follow this channel. I'm sorry Glenn, I think you are hating a little too much on the Radial. After listening and even doing a blind listen I didn't hear the "DRASTIC" change that you indicate. Yea, maybe a slight diff but again, I think you are not being completely fair here. I think if I setup a blind test you would likely pick the X-AMP as the best just as often as the other two. Not being a jerk here, but this is one of the few times in following your channel you seem to be leaning towards the guys you know that gave you the gear. Its human nature. Just saying man. My two cents.
You're testing the X-Amp Blue - not the Xamp Studio Yellow Active reamp box - does that make a difference against the Signal Art?
"Quack City"? It's called Duckburg. :P
Seeing that quick clip of your old video really shows how much weight you’ve lost. Well done Glenn! I’m gonna try IF and keto, based on recommendations from you and from Eyal Levi. Sorry to comment off topic, but I just wanted to say it!
IF in long term will deprive you of your minerals, bone structure will suffer and your joints will as well. Don't over do it! Keto as well... The most important is a regular training every day...
Žiga Lausegger I exercise everyday, it’s not enough
Also, I’m monitoring what I take in to make sure nothing important is left out. A lack of “minerals and bone structure” are only gonna happen if you’re an idiot about it lol.
I am starting to think that maybe we should record DI track a bit louder?
I'm a bit unsatisfied with my reamps being a little thin. Will try that next time I hit Rec!
For reamps, reasonably high volume and high audio resolution
I can hear the difference, even on my phone! Holy shit!
Man I'm still using a JCR ("v.2" red colored enclosure box) before he had Radial take over making them. Might have to give these new guys a try.
I have the yellow xamp, maybe the paint job makes it better? I have had similar feelings about it.
So if I'm understanding things correctly, the reampers have different impedances which results in different levels of signals. Could you just compensate on the input of the preamp for the signal loss or does that increase the noise floor so it's better to have a louder output from the reamp box? I mean it's obviously better but I'm just wondering if one could get away compensating on the input stage if we don't have a good reamper?
Most probably a stupid suggestion but have you tried to boost the signal with some kind of clean boost pedal in front of the amp? The noise floor will be boosted as well I guess but will it be noticeable in the mix?
Glenn, do have any experience with the little labs di's or reamp units? Would love to hear them in this comparison.
I always thought I simply had a bad/broken X-Amp box. Good to finally know it wasn't just mine, but that they generally seem to be lacking something designwise...
What do you recommend for a cheap-ish guitar D.I. Glenn? We use guitars with passive pickups. Thanks btw this vid was very interesting and useful, I'll check into upgrading my yellow X-amp for one of the boxes showcased here.
Keep in mind he used an older model xamp so yours may not actually have the issue. You may not need a di box if your interface has a hi-z input. The only use for a DI is if you want to track the amp at the same time or the guitarist can't play his part without hearing it in an amp. But if that's the case the problem is probably not your gear, just your guitarist.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 We need a DI since we reamp. But yeah we'll try to plug direct in my buddy's interface with (High-Z enabled) this time I think and forego the separate D.I. box. He has a Focusrite Scarlet 2nd gen and another older Focusrite which model name I forgot. Apparently there's not a ton of difference between that and a cheaper D.I.
The X-Amp sounded fine to us last time we used it so I think we'll stick with that as well.
dumb question....how do you switch tracks in solo like that?....without hitting solo on both tracks to switch?
and....im getting one of these...
Press Ctrl + Alt as you click Solo on a track. It will do exclusive solo for that track.
I use the Radial Pro Reamp box. It's passive and very clean.
Well it sounds like a major drop in signal with the X-Amp, have you compared the signal output by making a closed loop (you send you reamped signal back to your interface). I have had the ProRMP which is another reamp box by Radial and the output was shit. Even cranked, it was impossible to get the right output, it was always too low. I have seen switched to a Palmer Daccapo and I have no problem anymore.
Its come to my attention, that i read the message from signal art, and he says if you own xamp use a boost pedal after !
Huh... Radial losing in a shootout. You don't see that everyday. Radial makes some serious quality products.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, radial has a box for that
@@markuskoivisto - The A-Team of little boxes.
No 1/4" I/O on the box? Could always use a splitter to feed the amp but I think you'd definitely need that feature sooner than later unless I'm mistaken. Either way cheers!
Casually mentions that James Murphy is his friend, epic! I think I'd have a shirt made saying he was my friend haha
The X-Amp has a very low input impedance - 600 Ohm. This does not play well at all with the impedance output on many enthusiast-level audio interfaces and even some of the higher end ones. For instance, the output impedance on the RME Babyface Pro is 300 Ohm. To drive the X-Amp properly it should have been 60 Ohm. This is likely the reason why the X-Amp loses in these tests.
So the Signal goes
DAW->Interface->ReampBox->Amp->Speaker->Mic->Interface
Don't you get alot of latency ?
And if yes, how do you compensate that efficiently so it is in sync with the song?
Not much latency & reaper automatically compensates
There is also reaper reamp plugin which additionally fixes any latency added (ie. DSP pedals)
That’s nuts! I heard the difference on a fucking phone speaker. I was more curious about your thoughts, but god damn! It definitely sinked back in the mix. I use the little labs red eye for DI and reamping. Curious how it stacks up against that brand.
So what does everyone think? Signal Art ReAmp OR Signal Art 'Ang'ReAmp?
Interesting. There is a comparison between a Radial and a Palmer Dacappo somewhere here in YT. That also gave that issue with the high end. Anyway, that also showed how the highs actually dropped in comparison to the Palmer. For good measure. The Palmer costs about 70€. For that Radial provides you an empty box. Talking about overpriced.
And thank you for that Andy Sneap trick... I'll really have to look into that.
blokkadeleider - yeah, buy a Pultec and try it.
@@regortex3364 In order to carbon copy Andy Sneap? Nah. Andy Sneap is his own great self. Then we should have his entire setup. I was thinking of a ghetto method. *Eyeing my TC2240* :D
Something completely different will probably come out of it.
blokkadeleider - cool, haha
The Palmer Daccapo is hands down the best value for money reamp box around
Damn, i just got the x amp.
Anyway, can't be that bad for first learning to record guitar.
I got your course for total heavy guitar.
I almost got the Radial after seeing it recommended in Part 11 of the Total Heavy Guitar course too man. The Radial works fine, and it'll get the job done, so don't beat yourself up over it. Glenn was using it for "10-13 years." There'll be newer and better-designed products always within time. However, if you are tempted to sell it and buy a Signal Art, I certainly can say its fantastic. Received mine a month or two ago. Chad Kelly makes a well crafted reamp box. It is very transparent and super accurate.
Btw the way, Total Heavy Guitar is an amazing course. Best $97 I spent during that sale.
@@christopherblyth2454 There already is. The new box is yellow. I'm assuming redesigned.
Glenn!!! A craftsman, or just someone who isn't a full of shit hack, never blames his tools.
reallity is that I dont give a f... for Metal or guitars ,,but I love your show , thanks man for so much fun ,,,by the way I am not a bass Player ,,,:) PD just started with reaper, and looks good so far!!!!!!
When reamping. I always need to fiddle with the signal from the DAW. The DI sounds a bit dull when I’m sending it out to the reamp box. A bit compression on clean guitars and some clipping on heavy distorted sounds. Bang it sounds brutal as fuck. But I never managed to make it as good when it’s just coming from a guitar into the amp. :(
The shipping fee is $50 USD to Québec. Is it possible to have it at $30 USD? I've never have a small box like that cost more than $30 USD in shipping.
the xamp does seem to lose something. i almost always reamp into amp sims so I rarely use my reamp box. i have different reamp box from radial, seems fine.
Have you ever used a Marshall JCM 2000 in your studio Glenn? I had one in 2008 and it was actually a pretty good amp but it seems like Marshall has swept it under the rug in seeming embarrassment.
You are high. They still make the JCM 2000 to this day. It's a fantastic amp and to this day I still want one. The only issue is the new version of it has digital reverb instead of the spring it used to have. So I'd want an older version. That being said people didn't like the spring reverb as they tend to break with age and it costs a lot to repair/replace them.
The illusion that they don't sell well comes from the fact that people hated the 900 and so it flooded the second had market and everyone picked up cheap 900's instead of buying a new 2000. Not really an issue but that's why it would look that way. It also had to compete with the new rectifiers and 5150's when in the 80's marshall dominated the market.
I have an XAMP and i haven't ever had this issue.
Glenn has an older model. It can be damaged or the issue may be resolved in the newer model.
I assume it's my headphones but I don't hear any difference between the three. I do hear the difference between the over drive takes and the non overdrive takes but I cant hear anything between the three reamp boxes. Not saying its not there, i just don't hear it in my headphones.
Can you do the same test for bass? I noticed some reamp boxes have less lowend and some (radial) a bit les high end even.
i use the JLM Repro comes in a kit and has plenty of volume and an impedance pot
I prefer the "non-angry" Reamp, sounded fresher and more transparent. X-Amp lacks high end and sounds a bit resonant
I had a buddy reamp some DI tracks for me through his Dual Rectifier and I'm fairly certain he has the same box. Now I know why they sounded so underwhelming.
Hi Glenn, is it correct to use a pedal looper (first in the rig) as a handy reamp tool to test tone? Does it output the signal at instrument level?
If you are reamping just use your Daw to loop. The looper pedal is good if you want to compare tones live on camera so people can see you visible affecting the tone. If you are doing it on your own there is no need for the pedal as you can loop the track in your daw.
Loopers are made for performance. They tend to compress and (Boss) degrade the recorded material as it is mostly intended to be played over, which masks the lo-fi DAC and low audio bitrate used.
TL;DR: use the right tool for the job at hand, loopers for performance, di-daw-reamp for studio.
Gonna have to look into these at some point
Whats the replacement for the Signalart? No longer available.
United studio tech replay box. It’s the new signal art
A Re-Amping Question. I live in an apartment so I have to re-amp everything, may Henning Pauly forgive me. Until now I've been running my bass through a samson MDA1 direct box into my Steinberg UR44 interface. But I've just upgraded my bass rig to a Trace Elliot ELF head and a Peavey cabinet. The Trace Elliot head has a DI out. Should I be using the Trace Elliot head for the bass DI signal instead of the samson DI box ? Would the fact that I'd be re-amp using the same head have any detrimental effect ?
Just try both and see what suits you better :)
Depends on if your Trace head DI has cab sim or not and if you are running flat eq or not etc. If you are going to use the trace to DI I'd run all the eq flat and if it has a parametric eq bypass I'd bypass it. Get your track recorded that way. Then set your amp back to the setting you had them then reamp it that way. Otherwise you are double eqing it and then will be un eqing in your Daw. So I'd run the samson DI into your Daw then reamp into your trace. Most amp DI's are eq'd and have sansamp type circuits as they are designed to DI to front of house mixer, not so much recording.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 The head has a XLR DI out. I made a recording with the head EQ'd all nice. Then when I Re-Amped it through my Re-Amp box and everything, I just 5-ed it out. And I think it came out quite good.
@@SalAvenueNJ So you weren't asking a question you were just bragging? I'm confused.
@@whiskerbiscuit6674 No I was asking a question, and then someone chimed in and said "Just Try It" so I did, and that's what happened.
pardon the neewby question, but why not come out of the interface to amp front? i understand it has to be gain staged right to attempt, but why need a reamp box? whats the circuit doing differently?
Plug in & you’ll see
@@SpectreSoundStudios im sure glenn and i trust your wisdom and actually thinking of investing now. just trying to get a mental picture as to whats happening that makes the night and day difference. the difference between the radial and the other is massive so im guessing its complete shit without a reamp box....
It’s not just a matter of volume but giving the signal the proper impedance for a guitar preamp to behave properly. My quotation is why there is not a drag control on the active reamp like there is on the radial switchbone jx2. I personally use the JCR. It’s passive, great sounding and has more than enough level. In fact I have the volume trim down all the way.
Yaya, my favie wavie!
I have to crank my Radial re-amp box too, and it sounds the same! Well, looks like I'm getting a new re-amp box. Crap.
Most DI's and re-amps are passive, so the volume knob only acts as a cut not a boost. So having it "full blast" is just having the volume neutral. Peoples lack of knowledge is showing hard on this thread
So without the thousands of pieces of specialized audio junk, you can purchase today. We never had such stuff. We created everything in analog. Today you reap the benefits. With digital and hardware recreations. As simple as getting a combo meal from McDonald's. You don't have to order the burger and fries and the soft drink, separately. It comes as a package called a combo DI re-amp, kids meal. And includes a free toy. You can't choke on. No matter how hard you try. As you really won't choke with a watercolor tattoo stamp you stick on your tongue. I've been trying to find one with an RCA 77 DX microphone. None to date. Just little doodles. So I'm bummed. No artificial watercolor tattoos of RCA 77 DX microphones. So I'll just have to get a real tattoo one day. When I'm old enough to after 65. And I need to revisit my childhood I never had as a recording engineer. As I've been doing this since I was 15 years old professionally. That was 50 years ago. And you pick up a few things along the way. Before UA-cam and the Internet ever existed.
So, George Massenburg, Bruce Swedien, Bob Clearmountain, myself and others. We were taught that's where you plug in the microphone. The rest was up to us. And we did it all in analog. How's that possible? You make it possible. Variable speed devices for your analog tape recorders. $30 battery-operated cassette recorders. Sony and Pioneer consumer cassette decks. With built-in limiters you can switch on or off. 5 band octave wide consumer graphic equalizers for $50.. And they can work amazingly well. No matter how awful they sound.
Then you tear out the 1 inch diameter computer speaker from an old broken computer. You tape that to a paper towel cardboard tube. And you put a microphone in the other end and tape that closed. And give that a listen. And it will be like what the FUCK? Why didn't I think of this before? You can also do that with a garden hose. And create an analog, delay line. UREI produced the same thing years ago. Before we had digital delays. Use a garden hose. It'll sound funky.
Or like Sylvia does. Just lay the garden hose around the drum set. And put a 57 into each end. And tape it closed. Add in the bass drum and snare drum microphones. And it's a holy shit moment. Yes it is.
So it doesn't matter what you do or what you have. You use what you have. You make it work for you. You create sounds with it. Accuracy is not a factor here. Fun is. You have fun creating a musical audible work of musical art. And there is no right. There is no wrong. It's art. Some people will love it. Others will despise it. And the trick here is getting more to love it. Of what you have done and the way you have gone about doing. And that's what people are hearing. That is what they are listening for. They are listening to make you make them feel good. It's not about the accuracy or, technical gobbledygook gizmos you have to plug in. You merely have to learn how to pull a rabbit. Out of your ass. Without getting that cute little white bunny all brown and stinky sounding full of shit sound. You need to pull a cute little white fuzzy bunny out of your ass. That still cute white and adorable. And that doesn't smell bad. So you have to watch the pizza and Chinese food you eat. Otherwise you could kill that bunny and have a stillbirth bunny, out of your ass. And everyone will know you are a shit recording engineer and mixer. And your bunnies all look like and sound like shit. We don't like shit bunnies. We like cute and fun sounding bunnies. You know that cute little sound when they wiggle their nose. And not when they are hitting the ejection seat to quickly exit your ass.
We are specialists in turd polishing
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Fine, I'll get off your lawn, just promise not to write any more manifestos.
You mean to tell me the of the shelf x amp can't compete with something you've had modified with a custom transformer? I'm fucking shocked.
Maybe I missed something else, but did anyone really expect the x amp to win?
Used Xamp for years, and never had level issues. I think this is just an advertising video😊
I have the Radial X-amp which works great! I have not had any issues with bass, either. But, since I got the UAOX reamping has become a thing of the past!
Is there a way to run the OX cab software and also dry?
Sounds like the radial just isn’t hitting the front end of amp as hard the others? I agree that the others sound better but without hearing the guitar plugged into the amp we have no comparison. Technically the radial could be the most accurate of the 3 and we would have no way of knowing without hearing a recording of the real guitar into the same amp with no DI in the way or anything. Maybe in the future lets do that so assholes like me won’t complain. 🤣🤣.
interesting point nonetheless
You're exactly right. I have an X amp. Before I started reamping I did a A/B test of the reamp vs direct amp. I found that you do lose a bit of signal when reamping but you just apply some makeup gain to the di and it fixes it.
The signal art transformers aren't class a either so they change the signal making it warmer which also adds to the tone which explains the difference in this video.
@@EpilepticFingers interesting. I have the X-Amp and am trying to figure out how to get adequate gain in the amr when reamping. So how exactly do you obtain the ''makeup gain''? by turning up the output in the Daw? or by turning up the volume on the interface? or both? I assume you then run the X-Amp itself at max output.
@@FinalBaton if you want a warmer tone like the signal art reamp boxes a tube mic pre. If you want it to sound the same as using your amp directly just raise the di track fader above unity by a few db.
Do an A/B test to get the level right.
Yeah I keep the X amp output dimed.
Hmm. I have the JCR radial makes, and I never noticed my signal being too low. Now I'm second guessing it though haha
Ive got the yellow active one, havent noticed any lack of headroom either. Sounds fine and built like a tank!
@@seanmccarney271 Seriously. It's so heavy that even when I should have accidentally pulled it off my desk, a jack will just come unplugged lol
@KC hahaha! i dunno if hes fucked up, but I've certainly never run into that issue. im not sure if the blue one is different from the yellow one (the one i have) or not. could be the issue. who the fuck knows, haha!
Huh. That a Soldano I see? When did you get an SLO?
is it better than the mw1 di from Creation Audio ?
Re-amping, is this computer based tech? I record using a tascam dp32sd would that still be beneficial for me to buy and use? Can't get enough of your vids (especially musician texts, piss myself laughing every time I watch them 😂😂😂)
Reamp is for when you want to take any recorded signal and and run it through any other connection. You can use it for amps, but if you can reamp just pedals if you want. You can record your DI signal into your unit and then send it out through each pedal independently if you want. It's just a line level converter. It does the opposite of a DI box. or both at the same time. DI converts your unbalanced guitar signal to be balanced signal, reamp takes balanced mixer signal to be an unbalanced guitar level. Although if the pic I'm looking at is correct for your Tascam then your output is unbalanced already and don't need a reamp box. Just mute all the tracks except for the dry and run the Dry guitar signal out of the fx send into your amp and record the cab that way. You also don't need a Di if I'm looking at the correct model as your unit has a dedicated guitar input. Just make sure the switch is set to guitar on the H input. If your unit only had balanced outputs (the monitor out) then you can use a reamp box to take that balanced signal and make it unbalanced for your amp. But it looks as though your unit is both DI and Reamp. The manual should cover reamping.
Alternatively you can also use your monitor out to re amp through any hardware you have for mixing mastering. So you can run the output through a line level compressor or any outboard rack unit and then back into your inputs line level. Just make sure you aren't panning the out channel to the other output otherwise you'll get no signal. Ie don't pan left in your daw and then use the Right send plug
I thought the lowest we could hear was 20hz?
You're right, we can, but from what I understand we do have trouble actually hearing distinct frequencies down there. We kinda more perceive it than hear it. Even with bass instruments that go down in that pitch range, we're mostly hearing the overtones.
There is give and take all around... what is it, 20-20000 is human hearing... but with that said some can hear quite a bit higher, but also some cant even make it past 12k, those numbers are more guidelines then hard rules.
Well, in the beginning the difference was like night and day but, as you said, my untrained ears already couldnt tell the difference anymore at around 11:30.
Anyone know the promocodes for the signal art reamp at checkout?
Ok I’ll ask again. How is it possible to boost 25Hz and then cut 25Hz in a passive reamp circuit? Please someone explain, this is fascinating.
Full video coming up on Tuesday explaining it
SpectreSoundStudios- sweet, look forward to it.
I was going to buy one of these, unfortunately the shipping rate to the EU insane.
Hi, I apologize for that. The site was quoting the shipping rate I had initially set up for tube microphones (a MUCH larger box) and I forgot to fix it for the ReAmp. Fixed now! Thanks! -CK
@@chadkelly1402 Cool. Cheers
Hi. Can the shipping to Canada be lowered for an order of one reamp box? Currently it's $50 USD, which is way too high. I've never paid more than $30 USD for shipping a small box like this.
reamp with Radial X Amp, run through Line6 Spyder head into Mesa Cab Clone, and then mop the whole studio after Glenn blows his brains out
notarealperson87 and get the bass player to record the original guitar track
@@chrishopkins209 but be sure to time align it, and fix the out of tune guitar in post!