Should Christians Watch 'Game of Thrones'?

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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  • @jordanb.4133
    @jordanb.4133 7 років тому +66

    I used to struggle a lot with wanting to watch TV shows and movies that I knew were sketchy. But as I've grown closer and closer to God, I've desired more to be sanctified, and the desire to watch those shows has dwindled. Pursuing, loving, worshipping God is so much higher, so much greater than any show, movie, or book.

    • @EQOAnostalgia
      @EQOAnostalgia 5 років тому +5

      Yes this is true. I just came to the faith last year, and i would say about a year or two before that, the change was already in my heart. Things that used to be cool to me, like violence and brutality in video games and movies has begun to sicken and disturb me.
      People tell me it's the holy spirit... whatever it is, it's real, and it comes into your life when your heart opens to Jesus, even before your mind decides to do so.

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 5 років тому

      @@EQOAnostalgia that sounds a lot like what people say about a lot of things.

    • @lovejesuschristlovejesus3398
      @lovejesuschristlovejesus3398 4 роки тому

      Agree

  • @zanzeph15
    @zanzeph15 7 років тому +187

    I really enjoy the show game of thrones. And I know the new season is coming up soon. And for a while, I have contemplated whether or not I should watch the new season. I already have stopped watching all of the tv show that I committed myself to. Game of thrones is the only show I have left. Because of the love I have for God and because I know His will for me is to separate from things that displeases Him, I decided to stop watching the show. Now I barely turn on my television.

    • @dinahnow
      @dinahnow 7 років тому +6

      Me too - well done for the work of the Holy Spirit in us - once we are 'free of such clever and beguiling temptation', we are free indeed! Yes, it is 'brilliantly written, filmed etc.' - but that is the 'cleverness' of the temptation, of the tempter!!

    • @cedricgist7614
      @cedricgist7614 6 років тому +7

      I see it differently. However, if the Holy Spirit has led you to your decision, I cannot but applaud you and encourage you to keep yielding to His influence.

    • @flogriffin291
      @flogriffin291 6 років тому +7

      zanelle zephurin Respect to you, sister! We are called to deny ourselves, and what happens when we do is we become more sensitive about discerning the things of God.

    • @brandonburrell8517
      @brandonburrell8517 6 років тому +3

      Hallelujah !

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому +2

      That is stupid, how can some Christians be such stupid. I believe in God, but truth is he doesn't give shit will you watch tv show or Game of Thrones or Hannibal or anything, Bible say no one is good only God is good, bible say that evil doesnt exist, evil is absence of good, so i and you have choice we can be stupid and dont whach any tw show and pretend that God care, or we can do what we want, whenever we want, Only thing you need to do for salvation is complete trust in Jesus and thats all, no good deeds or anything you are siner in God eyes no matter what you do, all sins are eqal, you are free to do whatever you want, good and evil are completly subjective, you are not good nor evil.

  • @ReyhijodelLeon
    @ReyhijodelLeon 7 років тому +102

    every honest Christian filled with the Spirit,that wants to understand the Bible agrees with this blessed preacher!

  • @BeautifullyRewritten
    @BeautifullyRewritten 7 років тому +91

    Beautiful Message, completely biblical! I love how he said "my life isn't a constrained life" so true. For God's commandments are not burdensome to keep when you are walking in the Holy Spirit!

    • @lordlightning2339
      @lordlightning2339 7 років тому +3

      Beautifully Rewritten God Bless You :)

    • @vgsdomingo1
      @vgsdomingo1 7 років тому

      Beautifully -
      If God's commandments aren't burdensome, how come no one can keep them all. Do you follow #5?

    • @danieljrjang5873
      @danieljrjang5873 5 років тому +2

      Janko Perić well if all this was true, why would JESUS say gouge out your eye if it causes you to sin, obviously this implies him wanting his followers to be morally good

  • @elmer9797
    @elmer9797 5 років тому +67

    “If Jesus told us to guard our hearts by gouging out our eyes to prevent lust, how much more would he say don’t watch it” (4:55) - Amen to that!

    • @bailujen8052
      @bailujen8052 3 роки тому

      Just use Him to distract you from those stuff

  • @matthewtarpley948
    @matthewtarpley948 2 роки тому +11

    "If you doubt, DON'T." That's a good word right there. Thank you.

  • @CBess
    @CBess 7 років тому +30

    Compromise in the church is rampant! This is an excellent interview! We are called to be holy (1 Peter 1:16) and to deny ourselves (Mark 8:34-36). God bless

  • @alexeymladenov9178
    @alexeymladenov9178 5 років тому +23

    I used to watch it but every time I played the episode I would fill deep sorrow in my heart. I was grieving the Holy Spirit for quite some time until I became dry and finally realised what I was doing. Brothers, this filth is not worth our blessed sensible Lord who's dwelling in us. Let's not grieve Him anymore but bring Him joy with faith, obedience and purity of mind

  • @benjaminemmanuel1108
    @benjaminemmanuel1108 7 років тому +108

    "A great movie does not need nudity to add to it's greatness". I wonder if Lord of the Rings isn't the only movie that fits this bill!

    • @creategreatness8823
      @creategreatness8823 2 місяці тому

      The Dark Knight, Inception, Interstellar, Top Gun: Maverick, and the entire Mission Impossible franchise come to mind

  • @bellagarcia3876
    @bellagarcia3876 6 років тому +64

    I watched just the 1st episode and was like, nope.

    • @M.H.I.A.F.T.
      @M.H.I.A.F.T. 5 років тому

      Snowflake.

    • @myothergem
      @myothergem 5 років тому

      Destination: tonsils burn in hell lol

    • @regul8or71
      @regul8or71 4 роки тому +1

      Whatever helps you to feel better about yourself. Cheers!

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 4 роки тому

      @Ναζωραῖος A snow flake needs to cover gods work.

    • @bryandonahue4347
      @bryandonahue4347 3 роки тому

      Same

  • @curlyad5314
    @curlyad5314 4 роки тому +5

    Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 I am so happy that when Jesus found me and I started to live with him I was convicted to throw away my Television and stop for a while watching any kind of Movies even Christian ones. Now a days I look back and can be really greatfull that he led me in that way. Blessings to all of you

  • @danielvillegas7013
    @danielvillegas7013 5 років тому +12

    Pastor John I would like to say that I have been wrestling with watching this show and I've watched a lot of it even though at the back of my mind I knew God was not pleased with this show and I simply needed to affirm the truth in my own heart which you have just spoken. Thanks and God bless you .

  • @czeketa6140
    @czeketa6140 7 років тому +48

    "The world does not need more cool, hip, culturally savvy irrelevant copies of itself."

    • @selenawright1332
      @selenawright1332 5 років тому +1

      Wow right when he said that I saw ur comment..

  • @MzChosenByGrace
    @MzChosenByGrace 6 років тому +6

    TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH!!!!!!!!! Oh my gosh, I've already shared this 4 times before the end of the video!!! Thank you!!!!

  • @addjoaprekobaah5914
    @addjoaprekobaah5914 7 років тому +19

    I never got hooked. I was surprised it was even a hit. Thank God I've missed nothing.

  • @rickywestley6820
    @rickywestley6820 7 років тому +83

    Ive watched game of thrones before I came into the faith and I can tell you know that it is never appropriate for a believer to watch such wickedness ,Lot vexed his righteous spirit from the evil deeds that he saw and heard in Sodom and Gomorrah he did not sit there with a bag of popcorn and watch with enjoyment ,he was distressed by the depraved acts of lawlessness and so should we be .

    • @guzlemuzle
      @guzlemuzle 6 років тому +2

      Ricky Westley the fake christians lead the potential up and coming christians into it, and people slowly choke out the conviction in their life and they become nice people who believe jesus was a nice guy

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому

      You are delusional and waste your life, truth is God doesn't care about that, only thing you need for salvation is complete trust in Jesus, that's all. No good deeds, Good and Evil are completly subjective,But some christians are extremmly stupid, now i understand why atheists think they are more intelligent they you.
      I have some advice for you, you can try to be perfect, do whatever bible say you to do , and in God eyes you are just siner like Ted Bundy nothing more, nothing else, every sin is eqal, even if you try not to sin you will sin, it is in human nature, so i can do whatever i want and whach whatever i want, i am in God eyes sinner like you even if you do not whach that, only way for salvation is complete trust in Jesus, and i have that. But i haven no delusions about trying to achive some moral perfection, becasue it is impossible and in God eyes you are sinner just like Hitler.

    • @M.H.I.A.F.T.
      @M.H.I.A.F.T. 5 років тому +1

      @Ricky Westley Yeah, because there's no violence, murder, incest or cruelty in the Bible...oh wait....

    • @EQOAnostalgia
      @EQOAnostalgia 5 років тому +1

      @@M.H.I.A.F.T. It's not glorified like this. You trying to tell me it should be omitted? Then you would cry about facts being left out. You rather they censor it? Are you an SJW or something?
      Learn the line between showing something and glorifying it. You'll be much better off in life.

    • @M.H.I.A.F.T.
      @M.H.I.A.F.T. 5 років тому +1

      @@EQOAnostalgia GOT does not 'glorify it' and so what if it did? The point is religion has fucked up and killed millions. GOT has never harmed anyone as far as I'm aware.

  • @johntrust6217
    @johntrust6217 6 років тому +2

    Thanks Pastor John for this word, may the Spirit of God continue overflowing in you as you minister.

  • @katyekel
    @katyekel 7 років тому +85

    I used to watch it but every time I watched it I would get so convicted by the Holy Spirit I stopped watching it. Thais was right as the 3rd season was coming out. I got so repulsed by it thank to God.

    • @RyanREAX
      @RyanREAX 7 років тому +6

      Christ Is Risen I watched 5 seasons of ink master.. season 6 first episode came on.. someone said they wouldnt care If Jesus Christ went on the show he would do better ink than him. I cut it off and that was it.

    • @canadiankewldude
      @canadiankewldude 7 років тому +2

      Christ Is Risen -- I had the same type of experience.

    • @brandonburrell8517
      @brandonburrell8517 6 років тому +1

      Hallelujah!

    • @EQOAnostalgia
      @EQOAnostalgia 5 років тому

      @games guitars and gore See how angry you are? I was just like that when i was an atheist. I'm a gamer, i played in a band and i loved horror movies. I'd say we have a lot on common but looking at your comment, it reminds me of myself 2 years ago. Only i would toss in "bible thumper"

  • @jd9209
    @jd9209 7 років тому +19

    Thank you! I wish there was a bigger like button!

    • @EricSmyth2Christ
      @EricSmyth2Christ 7 років тому

      You can favorite it. It boosts the sharability in the algorithm

  • @Nechole777
    @Nechole777 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you servant of God. I am grateful for these lessons.

  • @LoverImYoursk
    @LoverImYoursk 5 років тому +16

    I think the problem of watching nudity and sexual explicit "acting" is not just that the viewers have lustful thoughts about it and/or the people portraying those scenes, but it's the fact that God determined that our nakedness and sex belong inside marriage and when I'm contemplating another person nakedness and the way they would have sex, I'm not only lusting after someone that is not my spouse, but I'm taking something that belongs to those actors' present or future (if they're single) spouses. The pleasure of seeing their nakedness belong to their spouses, it should only be enjoyed inside of marriage, and I'm somehow robbing that for myself. The other troubling part is that these actors are selling their nakedness for a stranger's pleasure and those watching are accomplices of that sin. Even if I skip those scenes in TV, the actors and producers of these shows don't know it. They just know that their product is selling because people like what they are seeing, and they will keep on insisting those who want to act that stripping off their clothes is a "need" and "art", when in reality they only care about the money these actors' naked bodies and sex portrayals generates them, reducing people to sexual objects for the masses.

  • @ReyhijodelLeon
    @ReyhijodelLeon 7 років тому +6

    love it thanks alot pastor John !

  • @michaelcoatney2568
    @michaelcoatney2568 6 років тому +6

    SO refreshing to see some of these comments....the SMALL minority of this country, BUT salt to be sure....PRAISE GOD!

  • @rboftmh.awakened.8463
    @rboftmh.awakened.8463 7 років тому +1

    Absolutely correct Pastor.Well spoken.Joining you in the pursuit to stay pure before the Lord. God bless you for your commitment to standing up for the gospel truth. (India) 👍🏼

  • @justyrahiljohnson4438
    @justyrahiljohnson4438 7 років тому +2

    If u doubt , Don't ! Can anything be this direct and discreet ? God bless you, dear Servant of God !

  • @teddybear6742
    @teddybear6742 5 років тому +5

    Since i was saved, I am more and more intolerant of any violent, demonic TV shows....it's crazy how much and how popular they are among people....i can't understand how people enjoy those zobmie, vampire, demons, torture, perverted sexual scenes..... all the image from HELL..... how is that enjoyable??? What are these shows trying to do to people????? Come Lord and clean up this filthy dark world, it's getting too much to bear!!!!!

  • @justinpalmer3948
    @justinpalmer3948 7 років тому +16

    Literally first episode of Game of Thrones I ever watched I was like, "well this seems pretty interes-WOAH THEY DIDN'T MENTION IT WAS MEDIEVAL PORN." Could not watch it anymore.

  • @messengerofgod89
    @messengerofgod89 3 роки тому +2

    1 John 2:15-17
    King James Version
    15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
    17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

  • @damonnugent1993
    @damonnugent1993 4 роки тому +3

    That kinda strikes closely to my heart, resonates deeply, when you talk about how we don't need irrelevant 'cooler' copies of the world, i'm very deep into entertainment myself and even I can't help but notice a lot of entertainment seems to 'extract' a lot from scripture and Biblical knowledge or imagery, and this same entertainment is looked at, treated and showcased in such ironically 'religious' manner, as if it were the Gospel of the world and all it's unclean desires, and it's designed to be so addicting, but the irony is that people would pitch a fit or walk away if they had to hear a verse or parable from the Bible. It sure makes me wonder sometimes. Is it possible entertainment is Satan's way of manipulating, inverting and copying the original story of Life? I guess that's why the Bible says there is nothing new under the sun...

  • @agatamariani9283
    @agatamariani9283 4 роки тому +1

    love this! Thanks Ps. John 🌝 glory to God !

  • @eggloria4371
    @eggloria4371 6 років тому

    John Piper goes in everytime!! Demonstrating how the Gospel is relevant in every situation, offering the answer for every question. I thank God for Pastor John's fervent commitment to the truth and His uncompromising delivery given in love. Thankful for the boldness not to shirk away from ANY question!

  • @Essie914
    @Essie914 7 років тому +6

    Oh Lord help us! if we were to spend time with Christ in His Word, we wouldn't even be asking such questions because we would Know! We really need the incredible gift of discernment.

    • @regul8or71
      @regul8or71 4 роки тому

      Respectfully, there’s is a BIG difference between having discernment.......and using it :)

  • @BruceJC75
    @BruceJC75 6 років тому +4

    This is such an encouragement in the fight against porn. I’ve gained so much ground leaning into Christ and I BELIEVE He will carry me through!

  • @sonofchrist7256
    @sonofchrist7256 6 років тому +2

    He said, "the closer I get to death and to Jesus"... the only problem I find with that statement and this video, is forgetting that we could die at any moment, and that even if we're alive God can still come as a thief in the night at any moment. I agree with this video. ive been getting closer to God and further from the bondage of satan. God has shown me that even red bulls can be a form of bondage. don't get addicted to the things of this world. theyre here one moment, and could all burn in a heartbeat. God bless you all.

  • @fredr.6757
    @fredr.6757 7 років тому +80

    Real born again Christians do not have a desire to watch those kinds of things.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 7 років тому +24

      That's not true, we all deal with temptation even after our initial conversion

    • @fredr.6757
      @fredr.6757 7 років тому +17

      Temptation is normal because our flesh is weak and corruptible. But watching and taking delight in such wickedness for a true child of God is in my opinion impossible.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 7 років тому +7

      A True Believer It's impossible if indeed the Holy Spirit of God dwells in you.

    • @fredr.6757
      @fredr.6757 7 років тому +4

      Amen Brother!
      God bless you in Jesus name! Amen

    • @vgsdomingo1
      @vgsdomingo1 7 років тому +2

      Fred Djengs -
      Tell us one thing that you personally have a desire to watch or do that real born again Christians don't. There must be something.

  • @dianadealencar8564
    @dianadealencar8564 4 роки тому

    Wonderful commentary, Pastor John! Wowww!!!! Glory to GOD!!!!🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼

  • @matthewnodar7298
    @matthewnodar7298 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a devout Christian, and an avid fan of Game of Thrones. The solution is truly quite simple: simply skip over the scenes depicting sexuality and nudity.

    • @abdulshahidalajev115
      @abdulshahidalajev115 3 роки тому

      Repent

    • @S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty
      @S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty Рік тому

      I’ve learned that the “I’m just gonna skip it” mentality is a total farce. More likely than not, I won’t have the self control to actually skip it. And, if I do succeed in skipping it, for the rest of the film or episode I will be wondering what I “missed out on.”
      Piper is right. You just need to cut this stuff out of your life completely.

  • @creategreatness8823
    @creategreatness8823 2 місяці тому

    As someone who WAS a huge, massive fan of Game of Thrones for the entire time that it aired...this bridge is the hardest to cross for me personally. Rationalizing and justifying the viewing of on-screen nudity because "the quality of the film, the storytelling, etc etc are just so good" has always been something I did, knowing that it was just a lot of "blowing smoke" to make myself feel okay with watching material that was frankly...not worth watching.
    But I grow in faith and mature in faith and am just trying to slowly work these kinds of things out of my life. Slowly but surely it is becoming an easier and easier thing to do.
    There is an INFINITE amount of entertainment in the world, and between work, family and faith...no single human truly needs a massive amount of entertainment to get them through life.
    There is certainly no need to resort to any entertainment that features obscene nudity or sexual content.

  • @HearGodsWord
    @HearGodsWord 5 років тому +4

    Never seen game of thrones so not an issue. It all depends on how you react to the scenes anyway...whether you can watch without lusting

    • @matthewnodar7298
      @matthewnodar7298 4 роки тому +2

      The scenes are filmed with the intention of invoking lust in the viewers. However, a simple solution is to simply skip over such scenes. I'm pretty surprised that no one seems to be mentioning this.

    • @UnitedThrive
      @UnitedThrive 4 роки тому

      @@matthewnodar7298 Yeah I thought of just skip the Scenes or not lust over it I could be right or wrong or it matters no matter what

  • @bornforburning777
    @bornforburning777 4 роки тому +1

    That first minute though, like a knife to the heart.

  • @d.d4540
    @d.d4540 7 років тому +13

    Something to further consider: Violence and murder faked onscreen are nonetheless sins God hates. Just because it's faked doesn't take away from the fact that they are entertaining an audience with these things God hates.

    • @screwmuckduck8905
      @screwmuckduck8905 7 років тому +1

      Double Dribble I guess then we'd have no movies then. But many movies made are

    • @screwmuckduck8905
      @screwmuckduck8905 7 років тому +1

      Double Dribble hard to imagine a world without the movies that show what the world really is. I'm all about reality.

    • @d.d4540
      @d.d4540 7 років тому

      Ian Garman thats actually very true, good point.
      But I still would say that we are not doing what is pleasing to Jesus when we sit and watch let's say someone get stabbed or something like that. And then go to God after wanting to draw near and grow in the Lord. Because we just watched dreadful things we don't need to see.
      The bible is clear on murder being sin so why would we sit and make entertainment of it? You get what I mean?

    • @d.d4540
      @d.d4540 7 років тому +3

      Ian Garman I also understand it being part of reality. But we have the news for that. What movies are, is entertainment and seeing gory or gruesome things or witnessing "deaths/murders" for pleasure is not necessary.
      That doesn't mean no movies at all just to choose wisely what we choose to watch as we serve a great and awesome but also Holy God ;)

    • @expiringphilosophy7605
      @expiringphilosophy7605 7 років тому +4

      I think there's a discernment that must be exercised. "Violence" is not always wrong; what matters is context. Is it justified violence, such as a war? Is it a depiction of real violence, such as gang violence, that should grieve us and paint a picture of a fallen reality? OR, is it GoT-type violence, in which the pleasure of watching it is not derived from the well-told story or in how it glorifies God and what He stands for, but is instead derived from our animalistic and sinful bloodlust? #1 is justified because the violence isn't the point but the context in which it is placed. #2 is sinful, because the violence is the whole point, and we're enjoying violence for the sake of violence. Thus, something like "How to Train Your Dragon" (one of my personal favorites, lol) is alright, because the violence is A) not over the top, and B) makes sense in the way it's handled; whereas most horror/slasher movies are saturated with sin because the whole point is to derive enjoyment from other people's pain and sadistic deaths.
      That's where I'm at right now, but I'll drop any movie if it leads me into sin. Anything else to add?

  • @goforthpatrick
    @goforthpatrick 7 років тому +7

    Pastor Piper mentions even photos. What about artists or medical professionals that observe a naked body to increase the knowledge and skill of their trade?

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 5 років тому +1

      Well we all know what Christians did to people for studying anatomy back in the day...

    • @meerkat1954
      @meerkat1954 5 років тому +3

      @@commonsense9173 Back in what day? Your imaginary time of never never land?

    • @trpimirkarlovic838
      @trpimirkarlovic838 3 роки тому

      Actual medical reasearch is whole another thing.

  • @SummerofKittyLove
    @SummerofKittyLove 7 років тому +43

    I watched the first episode because show was so hyped--it was too evil gross to sit through. I wanted to throw up. I hate how desensitized most people are to the vile and demonic. Very unhealthy for brain and spirit. I do not want this in my psyche as I get older. Too damaging.

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому

      You are delusional and waste your life, truth is God doesn't care about that, only thing you need for salvation is complete trust in Jesus, that's all. No good deeds, Good and Evil are completly subjective,But some christians are extremmly stupid, now i understand why atheists think they are more intelligent they you.
      I have some advice for you, you can try to be perfect, do whatever bible say you to do , and in God eyes you are just siner like Ted Bundy nothing more, nothing else, every sin is eqal, even if you try not to sin you will sin, it is in human nature, so i can do whatever i want and whach whatever i want, i am in God eyes sinner like you even if you do not whach that, only way for salvation is complete trust in Jesus, and i have that. But i haven no delusions about trying to achive some moral perfection, becasue it is impossible and in God eyes you are sinner just like Hitler.

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому

      Did jesus said "No one is good--except God alone". Smoking is sin, but many Christians do smoke, i just say that everyone is sinner, and even if you are sinner and do sin you can be saved, you just need to trust Jesus, i dont need to be perfect to be saved.

    • @101marsi
      @101marsi 5 років тому +6

      So you think watching porn is okay? just because people in real life have sex? so it's something that you should enjoy watching people doing? Oh right.. I forgot.. you just told someone they are delusional and a waste of life?! but you have the nerve to talk about Jesus christ? God does not play around with that stuff. you need to repent for showing such disgusting behavior. You are demonic and the lies you say are from the devil who is trying to send people into a false religion! It's sad. 2 Timothy 3:1-17
      "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people." You don't follow God you follow your self and your selfish desires.
      @@jankoperic2567

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому +1

      ​ M Mmm "So you think watching porn is okay" i never watched any porn, do you know why? because i am pretty asexsual, i do not have desire to whach pron, i never did, and i never will watch porn. Where did you get idea that i watch porn?I never said that someone is waste of life, but that someone waste his life, you should enjoy life, whach tv shows, game of thrones is okay, hannibal tv show is okay, there is nothing wrong with that, that's what i said , everyone is sinner , and it is stupid to want to live without any sin , that is impossible in this world, always was, and it will be impossible even million years in the future from now.If you do not like game of thrones or other tv shows, fine don't watch it, no one forces you, but DON'T tell other people not to watch that, or how is show "evil".

    • @stephennicewarner216
      @stephennicewarner216 5 років тому +13

      No. The Bible talks about people like you who try to use grace as a license to sin. You are not saved because you don’t think your sin is serious enough to be saved from. Leave this girl alone.

  • @rashelle525
    @rashelle525 7 років тому +11

    It made me sick. I hated even hearing it when I was staying with family who watched it :/

  • @patrickphilip777
    @patrickphilip777 2 роки тому +3

    I never seen the show but I heard that it contains graphic sex and incest. That is disturbing

  • @cometaire1
    @cometaire1 7 років тому +1

    Thank you Pastor John!

  • @TheEMC99
    @TheEMC99 7 років тому +1

    What a great answer. Well rounded and complete. What part of us is edified, enhanced, increased or blessed by watching this???

  • @cmullenmusic
    @cmullenmusic 4 роки тому

    So powerful, thank you for making.
    💜✞🕊

  • @user-rg1fn5bh8h
    @user-rg1fn5bh8h 9 місяців тому

    Some of these teaching were pretty profound to me I’ve never thought of some of the points he just made. This was something else my friend like I’m in awe 😂😂😂. He said you wouldn’t want your family to play these nude roles like wow man that was good. As well as saying nudity is real it’s not make believe like man you are literally hitting us with some wisdom. Praise be to God.

  • @milesofadoration
    @milesofadoration 7 років тому

    thanks pastor John. I will share this

  • @lacothans1191
    @lacothans1191 5 років тому +2

    Good afternoon,
    A friend of mine has the DVD set. I watched a few episodes out of the corner of my eye as I read from my phone. Not bad I thought. I then watched one episode with complete attention. I witnessed child sacrifice by burning a poisoning a throat cutting and a beheading. I will never watch this show again. Trauma, Trauma, Trauma. Peace be with you.

  • @martinvera4567
    @martinvera4567 7 років тому +2

    I vaguely remember some Christians I know saying they watch this. I don't have a TV so I had no idea the show was TV MA, and now I'm concerned.

    • @bailujen8052
      @bailujen8052 4 роки тому +1

      You dont need adult stuff to make a good adult story
      A cancelled star wars game called star wars 1313 was going to be rated M for the plot not the violence

  • @AbidingNHim7
    @AbidingNHim7 7 років тому +27

    I'm shocked someone would even have to ask. Doesn't anyone have any department anymore?

    • @AbidingNHim7
      @AbidingNHim7 7 років тому +16

      Discernment anymore?

    • @SomaKitsune
      @SomaKitsune 7 років тому +3

      Abiding in Him. I think the truth is that there is no discernment anymore. Certainly it is uncommon, to say the least. This current generation of Christians are so poorly educated and so gravely mislead into thinking life is about fun, that it's difficult to find someone who has a burden to be holy. So many youth these days think pre-marital sex is either acceptable to God or just not as serious as the "oldies" say. So it follows that the same people will be, at best, ambiguous about whether or not they should watch shows that seem obviously depraved to previous generations. It's sad that youths spend so little time with their bibles or with God that they have no idea what brings Him Joy and what makes Him angry...

    • @AbidingNHim7
      @AbidingNHim7 7 років тому +5

      White Night I agree.. also this isn't just a youth problem. My thought is that TV in general is a huge distraction. Why do we feel the need to be entertained? It's a pit many many people are comfortable in.

    • @SomaKitsune
      @SomaKitsune 7 років тому +7

      I don't have a problem with being entertained - entertainment and recreation have their place. But I do have a problem when people claiming to follow Christ are entertained by things that God hates. Admittedly, I struggled with this very thing for a long time. I was hooked on a video game series called Shin Megami Tensei, which has a strong occult focus - you summon demons to help you save the world and generally toward the end of each game you have choose between siding with Lucifer to fight (and kill) God or God to fight Lucifer. It's blatant blasphemy. And I claimed to be a Christian whilst playing these games! I justified it away by saying it was just fantasy and the in-game representations of God and Lucifer are not accurate so it's not like I'm actually fighting God and befriending the Devil, plus the story is really interesting and the gameplay is amazing blah blah blah. But the whole time I knew in my conscience that God did not endorse this form of entertainment. Eventually I was caught out because a church elder saw something on my social media that concerned him and after doing some research he confronted me. Immediately I gave it up and got rid of all the games, knowing that I should have listened to the Holy Spirit years ago instead of waiting to be humiliated. Thank God for that elder who had a concern for my holiness.
      Now, my point is this. As Christians, if we have a relationship with God, we should be able to hear Him telling us when we are in breach of our boundaries (which are there for our good, not because God is a fuddy-duddy). But either 1. Christians only "give their life to Jesus" out of emotion and never really commit to a relationship with Christ, so they don't know His voice to be able to discern right from wrong, or 2. They play the fool, justifying sin by saying it's not reeeeeaaally bad (like I was doing), essentially ignoring God speaking to them. Both scenarios display poor relationship management on our part, and I think that's what it comes down to. If you really love someone, you don't ignore them or justify hurting them - you would be diligent to do what you know they like and refrain from what upsets them. Otherwise it's not real love and all you really want is a friend with benefits. Jesus deserves better than that. If Christians can't agree on at least that, they don't understand the gospel. He didn't live a perfect life and die a criminal's death so we can continue hammering the nails into His hands by pretending we don't know when we're sinning. He lived and died to pay our unpayable debt of sin so we could be renewed and made holy by God's grace.

    • @AbidingNHim7
      @AbidingNHim7 7 років тому +1

      White Night Amen! I was watching the Walking dead 2 Years ago and the Holy Spirit showed me how I could be spending time with him and not hiding in the dark watching this show. I repented and started cutting things out that kept me from him. Thanks for responding. I enjoyed your sharing your story. I like how you shined light on the relationship we commit to with our redeemer.

  • @TheShakeee777
    @TheShakeee777 7 років тому +1

    Thank you Pastor!

  • @joshuaokoro-sokoh2993
    @joshuaokoro-sokoh2993 3 роки тому +1

    8:43 That is one that I can agree with to a degree, Deadpool is a good film, but so is The Chronicles of Narnia, But 50 shades isn't (at least not to me), The point is a good film doesn't need to have sex in it, but sex (or a lack thereof) is not enough to make a film good.

  • @sandworm3
    @sandworm3 6 років тому +5

    Chances are if they are watching shows that depict graphic sex scenes, they also have a closet pornography issue present as well.

  • @gem934
    @gem934 5 років тому +2

    This is good, also I like David Wilkerson’s take on it too, how can you expect to run into the Lords arms, if your sitting their watching that filth when the Lord returns.

  • @tube.brasil
    @tube.brasil 3 роки тому +5

    Netflix promotes Lucifer, witchcraft, etc. Amazon Prime has a series (Robot) that shows graphic gay sex in the 4th or 5th episode.
    That's how they do it. They get you hooked in the first episodes with few problems, and later when it's hard for you to give up, they add the perversion.

    • @abdulshahidalajev115
      @abdulshahidalajev115 3 роки тому

      Children watch these things, fall into bondage and rarely escape in adulthood. We really live in terrible times

  • @buffalo1d
    @buffalo1d 7 років тому +30

    This show is moral depraved.

    • @DesGardius-me7gf
      @DesGardius-me7gf 6 років тому +2

      buffalo1d Says the person who follows a book that condones slavery.

    • @bellagarcia3876
      @bellagarcia3876 6 років тому +11

      @@DesGardius-me7gf you speak in ignorance.

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 5 років тому

      @@bellagarcia3876 no they do not. Not once in the bible does it mention slavery is bad. It just outlines how to treat them. Yet you say they speak from ignorance? Can you say irony?

    • @Sunnysidestoriesandmusic
      @Sunnysidestoriesandmusic 4 роки тому

      @@commonsense9173 they actually were indentured servants.

  • @cube2550
    @cube2550 7 років тому +2

    Praise be to the lord of light

  • @Acts-hw1zs
    @Acts-hw1zs 3 роки тому +2

    A coworker recommended me to watch. Praise God, 20 minutes into the first episode my stomach tied in knots when the nude scene came on. You are lukewarm if you can sit and watch this show and call yourself a Christian..🤢

  • @cedricgist7614
    @cedricgist7614 6 років тому +7

    My portal into George R. R. Martin's World of Ice And Fire ( Game of Thrones) has been UA-cam videos and Wikipedia articles over the last six months. After I got involved, I was challenged by Joel Moroney's video similarly titled "Should Christians Watch Game of Thrones? " I've replied there.
    How should Christians watch "Game of Thrones? " I believe is a valid question. By the time these cautionary videos were posted, many believers had already been drawn in to George R. R. Martin's world and the worldwide phenomenon that is "Game of Thrones. "
    Seven seasons have aired, and the 8th-and-final season has been delayed. There are some believers who should not continue with the show. Those who haven't begun I'd say would do well not to begin.
    However, for those who choose to follow the story to its conclusion, here are some points to consider.
    The God that disciples of Jesus Christ claim to worship is present in The World of Ice And Fire. Our God created George Martin who has described himself as a "lapsed Catholic. " I see Martin's masterwork as part of his quest to understand the God he grew up learning about.
    The World of Ice And Fire is steeped in spirituality. Many religions and religious practices exist. Some articles say GRRM modeled those religions on faiths that exist in our world.
    In Psalm 139, David asks, "Whither shall I go from thy Spirit, or whither shall I flee from thy presence? " Of course, the answer is that God is present everywhere - even the farthest reaches of our imaginations. All the Utopias, Dystopias, Post-apocolyptic worlds, parallel universes, multiverses, and whatever we can dream up - the true, living, life-giving God is there.
    So, for those already caught up in "Game of Thrones " and the World of Ice And Fire, the challenge is what positive and edifying elements can you take away from this journey? "Winter is coming " echoes "Jesus is coming. " "All men must die " echoes "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.... " "Bend the knee" and "All men must serve" point to "Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. "
    I'm not trying to justify watching "Game of Thrones " or reading GRRM's books for titillation or enjoying "stolen bread. " If the Holy Spirit is convicting anyone on their watching or reading, those persons need to stop, repent, re-focus and move on in Christ.
    What helps me is I read the "Chronicles of Narnia " in school. C. S. Lewis wrote that series and he was an associate - if not a friend - of J. R. R. Tolkien who wrote "The Lord of the Rings. " George R. R. Martin has expressed admiration for Tolkien and his work. In a way, I was primed for Martin's work - and so were many of you.
    So, how should believers watch G. O. T.? Mindful that Jesus is watching us, that He is present in the story (even if not mentioned by name or identifiable with any god mentioned in the tale); mindful that The World of Ice And Fire is much like our world, and how we get caught up in fighting each other when a greater battle is raging.

    • @robertoesquivel4447
      @robertoesquivel4447 6 років тому +1

      Spencer Grant Brillant

    • @cedricgist7614
      @cedricgist7614 6 років тому +2

      Roberto Esquivel - thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate your reading the comment - I know it was long.
      I have weaned off "Game of Thrones " - I seldom follow up on video notifications now. But GRRM 's world is still fascinating to me. And in saying that, I am reminded that we worship the greatest Storyteller of all....

    • @paulajames3937
      @paulajames3937 6 років тому

      Spencer Grant Martin's world is make believe, but the Bible is Truth.

  • @gunnerkicks6590
    @gunnerkicks6590 7 років тому +19

    non christian friend asks you, what did you think of game of thrones last nght? "O, I don't watch it because of nudity" - end of conversation

    • @M.H.I.A.F.T.
      @M.H.I.A.F.T. 5 років тому

      Nudity offends you? Snowflake.

    • @robraver
      @robraver 5 років тому +5

      its not the nudity, its more the storyline and violence that are not great. I just dont have time for the crap.

    • @Sunnysidestoriesandmusic
      @Sunnysidestoriesandmusic 4 роки тому +4

      @@M.H.I.A.F.T. yes unless in the context of marriage, where it should be.

    • @sarahpyke307
      @sarahpyke307 4 роки тому

      Since the show came out my husband and I decided not to watch it. Growing up into adulthood my husband really struggled with a pornography addition. Thankfully he was able to conquer it, so he doesn't want anything that will bring that back. So when people have brought GOT up my husband shares his reasons and people of all beliefs (and lack of beliefs) respect it. It's all about not being a pretentious prick when speaking to people.

    • @gunnerkicks6590
      @gunnerkicks6590 4 роки тому

      @@sarahpyke307 does he read song of songs

  • @Angelalex242
    @Angelalex242 3 роки тому +2

    In short, if you watch game of thrones, your eternity will look rather like Kings landing when Daenerys and her dragon is done with it.

  • @IsaacBanks33
    @IsaacBanks33 5 років тому +1

    john piper always gives such an awesome answer.

  • @redengine1859
    @redengine1859 5 років тому +1

    For us we purchased a VidAngel subscription and temporary HBO app subscription for after the season is over to watch in one whole bundle. You can take every sex scene and cuss word out from a list you control. The guys I worked with thought I was a freak for this indeed, but it kept us guilt free from watching the show and it is great without all that garbage. Vidangel is like having TV editing all over again like the good ole days.

    • @meerkat1954
      @meerkat1954 5 років тому +1

      There's still so much barbarity and violence in Game of Thrones though which is central to the plot and can't be edited out. I believe that is just as disturbing to God as nudity.

    • @AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov
      @AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov 2 роки тому

      Fun fact: in the medieval times the only curse word-that was like the f-bomb back then- was "damn" and all our "cuss" words and vulgarities were technical terms back then

  • @brittpettigrew8195
    @brittpettigrew8195 4 роки тому

    Have y'all never heard of vidangel. It's a streaming app that allows you to filter out gore, nudity, language basically anything inappropriate. How it works is it'll filter through a streaming app like Netflix or HBO so you have to have Netflix to filter and watch anything on Netflix through vidangel. But I used it to watch game of thrones and completely cut out all nudity and profanity and it worked really well. Just thought I'd let y'all know.

  • @YouKnowMeDuh
    @YouKnowMeDuh 6 років тому +1

    2:14 very very good point

  • @riazozobrado6292
    @riazozobrado6292 3 роки тому

    Before my conversion, I used to watch this series. I even watched a lot of gory movies. I was once a fan of horror movies. Name them, I know them. But after conversion, I abstain from watching them. When I tried watching once, my stomach turned. I now realize how shallow these kinds of movies.

  • @danfordmashayamombe9152
    @danfordmashayamombe9152 5 місяців тому

    Amen!

  • @lightair7096
    @lightair7096 7 років тому +2

    Thank you.

  • @sprenzy7936
    @sprenzy7936 3 роки тому

    This is good thing because this follows the Bible, we can see examples in the Bible
    For example the Bible says about pride
    And we see Tywin and Geoffrey and the difference between them and who holds more power.
    Tywin has a lot of wisdom and experience just like Solomon has wisdom and experience
    Not like adonija who exhales himself saying he will be king like Geoffrey does
    That’s why Tywin commands much more power and respect.
    So according to the Bible it checks out.
    In the show you will see just and unjust situation in the world all of which could be seen as an example
    Tywin even said that wisdom is the most important during his conversation with tommen

    • @AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov
      @AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov 2 роки тому

      I wouldnt say that justifies the show but dont deny, people, that the Bible also has many of these subjects in them

  • @dianadealencar8564
    @dianadealencar8564 4 роки тому

    I think JESUS for using you as a special instrument for His Glory!!! Amen!🙏🏼

  • @ServantSoundProductions777
    @ServantSoundProductions777 7 років тому +1

    a good question would be... should Christians watch extreme sports...
    like mma..boxing...football 🏈 etc...

  • @isaacnewton3292
    @isaacnewton3292 7 років тому

    As a Christian, I also struggle to stop watching some shows even when you do not know that some nude parts will appear at some point. But I ask, when you go to beach and see all those beauties passing by, have you sinned already?
    How about some women in churches exposing their chest, since you great them, no way you won't look at them first but then you turn your eyes away. So have you still sinned?
    God knows that our eyes would see things that we are not supposed to see - via movies or while walking but the key thing is what you allow your mind to feed on at that point in time.
    So that is why we should guide our heart / mind so when we see these things, we are not carried away.

  • @Lee-xn8by
    @Lee-xn8by 3 роки тому

    Very well said John

  • @bornforburning777
    @bornforburning777 2 місяці тому

    Coming back to this video, I'm curious what Piper's position would be on nudity in classical painting and sculpture. I know many see some kind of distinction, but I increasingly do not.

  • @bailujen8052
    @bailujen8052 3 роки тому

    There are shows with blurred lines like
    A hard tvMA show can be like Game of thrones and The walking dead. But a Soft tvMA can be like Samurai Jack season 5 cartoon which doesn't care about the edgy stuff.

  • @jesus_is_god_and_you_know_1669
    @jesus_is_god_and_you_know_1669 6 років тому +1

    Amen! Christ made me completely *stop* all impure/lustful thoughts of the mind, and I feel truly liberated from the things of the flesh.
    I feel like a new person thanks to Him.
    Jesus has the power the heal all your impurities of the heart, I can speak on this as He has already done it on me :))

  • @oumsieouma1018
    @oumsieouma1018 3 роки тому

    This is the best lesson ever. I also think the same. I restrict my feeds so much, i only got Christian and nature programs that is coming through... I want to let go of wifi and my cellphone.

    • @Demonoicgamer666
      @Demonoicgamer666 3 роки тому

      I’m sorry but we are talking about “Game of Thrones” the bible is basically saying no time for entertainment you don’t watch Game of thrones to see nudity. If everything has to be serious then what is the point of doing anything.

  • @joshuaokoro-sokoh2993
    @joshuaokoro-sokoh2993 3 роки тому

    8:25 There are also people who are waiting to kiss after marriage. Their first kiss is going to be in front of a lot of people (including Children) in a church.

    • @60sbaby456
      @60sbaby456 11 місяців тому

      But it’s done with modesty 😊

  • @milesofadoration
    @milesofadoration 7 років тому +1

    but I agree with everything else.

  • @morriswilburn9858
    @morriswilburn9858 3 роки тому

    The older I get, the more I realize that my time on this earth is finite. Consequently, every minute is valuable. That being the case, I need to ask myself: am I spending my time or investing it? If I invest my time in watching Game of Thrones, am I investing my time toward the goal of good mental health? The answer is no. Same reason I stopped watching The Walking Dead.

  • @pjstake1566
    @pjstake1566 7 років тому +2

    Amen

  • @debugger707
    @debugger707 7 років тому +2

    sooo good!!!!

  • @radeon23487
    @radeon23487 5 років тому +3

    I have never seen game of thrones though everyone talks about it.

    • @EnderWarden
      @EnderWarden 4 роки тому

      Don't

    • @trpimirkarlovic838
      @trpimirkarlovic838 3 роки тому +1

      You're not missing too much, it's just a cheap copy of actual world history. Read history instead.

  • @joshuag7207
    @joshuag7207 4 роки тому

    I don’t think Game of Thrones is going to ruin your faith.

  • @rubenCh
    @rubenCh 6 років тому

    I hoped Piper would say Yes! to GoT, But i know better... At the start of the series several years ago, i did not see anything wrong with it. I do now. On the other hand: i really want to see how the series ends.

  • @billycrown1698
    @billycrown1698 5 років тому +1

    I know that here is the thing my wife would have my kids to watch the movie and I would drive them to there rooms.I understand an am not a fan of this movie am praying for her.

  • @kaleomariz1000
    @kaleomariz1000 5 років тому +2

    I believe we need to ask grace from God to grow more and more to love God's holiness and fellow man and women in such a way that we will prefer to abstain from delighting in nudity and pornography than to defile our souls with sinful pleasures.
    Not only that, but I also try to remember that I need to have my heart as pure as possible for my future wife.

  • @lizkeke8027
    @lizkeke8027 4 роки тому

    Never watched the show (not sure I want to based on what i've heard, not sure if skipping over scenes would be an option). I am reading the books however and have found them to be very well-written and with witty dialogue and engaging characters, not the depravity that seems to have been played up and exploited in the show. But like I said I haven't watched it so I couldn't say how big exactly the difference is, probably helps that the book isn't visual and such scenes are not drawn out or even meant to illicit lust (more of a it happened for certain conversations to take place between characters). I'm not saying the books are better or that one should give GoT a chance, thats just what i've observed.

  • @trocycling1204
    @trocycling1204 2 роки тому

    I've never considered watching Game of thrones. This is the first time I've heard anyone talk about it.

  • @westb1028
    @westb1028 4 роки тому

    Good advice because sin starts with a thought and these shows can implant that thought.

  • @jonathanbrown3048
    @jonathanbrown3048 6 років тому

    An answer could be, It's up to you. You could skip past the nudity, get a version of the series that censors the provocative stuff, etc. Depending on how the show affects you and your conscience, that should be the framework you use (other than the bible of course) to determine whether It's suitable for you to watch or not. I see a lot of people drawing parallels between the nudity in the show and pornography. With pornography, the individual is most likely watching the content to lust, with GoT that's not the primary focus of the show. It's not lost on me that an individual could watch the show to lust or for any other sinful purposes and so obviously a line needs to be drawn. But beyond that, a viewer could ignore those parts or not be phased by them. Please stop using "real Christians", It's a pretentious and untrue term formed by the basis of your own perception and no objective definition. It sets a bad stigma among Christians and inhibits constructive criticism. If you want to convince another Christian that they're incorrect don't berate them and bring them down.

  • @evelyn31001
    @evelyn31001 7 років тому +3

    someone i know like this series a lot. I was intrigued so i watched the first episode. I was shocked on the nudity content that i never watch the second episode.

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 5 років тому

      Because natural human bodies are so bad.

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 5 років тому

      God created us and you're ashamed of his work?

    • @jericawilson1484
      @jericawilson1484 4 роки тому +2

      @@commonsense9173
      It's not about hating the body. It's about being modest and not over-ENJOYING it. God created a lot of good things. But we are not supposed to indulge in them outside of how he instructs, for our own benefit. For me, a woman, seeing breasts on the screen draws no reaction from me because I have no sexual interest in women. For a guy or a girl with interests in girls, that's way different. It becomes flat out porn at that point. (To clarify, I try to stay away from movies with nudity in it altogether simply because I represent the faith, anyway).
      Within a godly marriage, the appreciation you're talking about it glorifying to God. Outside of it, it's almost impossible to keep from glorifying the creation without giving much thought to God. Plus, if you're in a relationship then looking at another person with lust is the same as cheating, anyway.

    • @commonsense9173
      @commonsense9173 4 роки тому

      @@jericawilson1484 He told you that? In person? Did you take pictures?

    • @jericawilson1484
      @jericawilson1484 4 роки тому +3

      @@commonsense9173
      I just...read the Bible.
      Dude, you're acting like seriously nasty to people. Guessing you're a troll or something.

  • @Theblaqueone716
    @Theblaqueone716 4 роки тому

    Amen thank God for this video. I will no longer watch G.O.T

  • @S.h-comma.to.the.top-Dynasty

    I’ve learned that the “I’m just gonna skip it” mentality is a total farce. More likely than not, I won’t have the self control to actually skip it. And, if I do succeed in skipping it, for the rest of the film or episode I will be wondering what I “missed out on.”
    Piper is right. You just need to cut this stuff out of your life completely.

  • @KingNazaru
    @KingNazaru 2 роки тому +1

    I dropped the show during season 8. It was awful and further proof they stopped following the books.

  • @elsamusoy
    @elsamusoy 6 років тому +3

    Stupid question, easy answer: *NO*

    • @jankoperic2567
      @jankoperic2567 5 років тому

      You are delusional, we can do whatever we want, whenever we want. God Doesn't give shit

    • @bailujen8052
      @bailujen8052 4 роки тому

      Permissive will, but just watch stories that make people glorify the story over the adults

  • @bolongiekofo1920
    @bolongiekofo1920 4 роки тому

    Huge AMEN 🔥🙌

    • @Celtics20
      @Celtics20 4 роки тому +1

      It’s Pretty ridiculous that this question even needs to be asked.