I’m in a similar spot. I got a full set of PIU switch frames, panels, etc (basically everything you remove to upgrade to bracketless on a PIU). My plan is to weld steel tubing into a frame with a friend’s help, paint it, and tap the tubing to hold the frames. Wiring could go through the tubing or just snake through gaps in the switch frames. Your approach looks pretty simple in comparison though. For me these would either sit on top of my DDR stage (butting right up against the bars) or be usable on a flat floor. If levelers end up being needed that could probably be solved with a little bit more work.
ITG pads can be a real pain in the ass to maintain. Add one strip of tape and the arrow is way too sensitive/gets stuck on, remove the tape and it's not sensitive enough; what do you do besides routing your panels? Being able to adjust sensitivity in software would save so much time not performing maintenance. It's also just fun doing stuff like this when it all finally works.
@Calvin Joshua Scott did you ask around in the buy/sell/trade group? its a pretty common part. you can take the panel and support off of a DDR or ITG. I bet the top panel is easier to get then the support underneath. Natano from Stamina Nation is building his own switch frames and he did the center panel with a wood slab and a sheet of metal. Maybe you can look into something like that?
It's about efficiency. The harder the stuff you play, the more useful it is to conserve movement and energy. On easier stuff, you can get away with pretty much any style of play as there just isn't enough steps at a fast enough rate to wear you down. In fact, this "wiggle" (lol) style of play makes such easier songs feel virtually effortless. But when things are faster and have more steps, the distance it takes to get from one panel to another matters a lot more as there isn't much time. Say... something at 195bpm with 16th steps is 13 steps per second. That means one foot would have to move from one panel to another in around 0.076 seconds. While you "can" play that with a wider stepping style like hitting the middle of each panel, you have to expend more energy to do so. Now multiply that sort of extra effort for thousands of arrows in a 10 minute stamina stepchart and you will get an idea why players just sort of naturally transition to a more efficient play style. While the wiggle style looks like it doesn't take much effort to do. Believe me, you're still working muscles from the rapid alternation of your feet and thus can still hit a wall of energy expenditure where you just can't keep up anymore. So while it helps a lot, it's still no gimmie to passing stuff as it can always get harder. If you'd like a really extreme example of this, look up a video called "ECSX Marathon - In Memoriam, 68.57% pass" by "Kieran ITG" (Levitaas) where he does an hour-long stamina marathon that's 245-270bpm.
It’s a whole different game with a different appeal and different set of techniques and ideals. What you’re seeing is called “Stamina”, where the stepcharts themselves don’t have many tricky techniques, but they go really, really fast, and players challenge themselves on how long and fast they can go. If ITG chart styles were physical sports, Technical is like gymnastics while Stamina is like a marathon. But if you like “Technical” stuff better, more power to you. In fact, I prefer Technical over Stamina.
Don't appogloze for sloppy. And same I don't like making video but making thumbnail fun
I’m in a similar spot. I got a full set of PIU switch frames, panels, etc (basically everything you remove to upgrade to bracketless on a PIU). My plan is to weld steel tubing into a frame with a friend’s help, paint it, and tap the tubing to hold the frames. Wiring could go through the tubing or just snake through gaps in the switch frames. Your approach looks pretty simple in comparison though.
For me these would either sit on top of my DDR stage (butting right up against the bars) or be usable on a flat floor. If levelers end up being needed that could probably be solved with a little bit more work.
How did it come out?
Wish that everything will go well with your diy pad project, looking forward to watch your the updates.
Yeah I made a pad, I should've gotten a L-Tek pad cause there's no way in hell I'll get my hands on a SMX pad
1/4 plate steel? How much does that pad wiegh?
Good luck dude, I want to see the final result.
nice build series idea :D . very helpful and hopefully educational XD
We need to come up with an adjustable bar.
@7:17 will this blue print work on a Pump It Up build?
Have you looked into shift registers for your LED problem? Looking forward to updates on this project.
No but I'll give them a google. Thanks!
Legit tho do u have a reason for making this when u have ITG cab
ITG pads can be a real pain in the ass to maintain. Add one strip of tape and the arrow is way too sensitive/gets stuck on, remove the tape and it's not sensitive enough; what do you do besides routing your panels? Being able to adjust sensitivity in software would save so much time not performing maintenance.
It's also just fun doing stuff like this when it all finally works.
Do you have any dimensions or schematics for the metal base that you had fabricated? This thing turned out amazing
These are the drawings i made imgur.com/a/WwDM7Zf
Is there a makerspace near you that can help you duplicate the metal brackets for the center arrow
what is this penguin dancing broseph
Did you say "Plywood"?
Currently building my own pad. Was wondering where you were able to find the PIU center switch frames. I'm needing some big time!
Someome on the buy/sell/trade group listed them a couple weeks ago
Let me know if you find a way to get another center metal panel, we need to replace ours I'm pretty sure.
still having the sticking issue?
@@domitg yeah humidity is at 38% or below. I have a weather station. We sanded it down as a last resort too.
@Calvin Joshua Scott her center panel wasnt slippery enough iirc
@Calvin Joshua Scott did you ask around in the buy/sell/trade group? its a pretty common part. you can take the panel and support off of a DDR or ITG. I bet the top panel is easier to get then the support underneath. Natano from Stamina Nation is building his own switch frames and he did the center panel with a wood slab and a sheet of metal. Maybe you can look into something like that?
EPIC
Noticed the magic hat sticker- are you in VT?
Close, MA!
I wish Soylent shipped to Canada
Should have bot smex
ur so cool
I'll trade u SMX bar for DDR bar
terrible trade lol
I won't stand for the ddr bar hate >:(
come at me bro
Wow, people are really replacing their original arcade metal part for cheap 3d printed ones. That's... wow.
The end result is really awesome though. I just don't like square panels so it's a bit of a turn off for me.
what's with this wiggle style of playing lol. I'm seeing it everywhere now. It almost defeats the point of the game.
It's about efficiency. The harder the stuff you play, the more useful it is to conserve movement and energy. On easier stuff, you can get away with pretty much any style of play as there just isn't enough steps at a fast enough rate to wear you down. In fact, this "wiggle" (lol) style of play makes such easier songs feel virtually effortless. But when things are faster and have more steps, the distance it takes to get from one panel to another matters a lot more as there isn't much time. Say... something at 195bpm with 16th steps is 13 steps per second. That means one foot would have to move from one panel to another in around 0.076 seconds.
While you "can" play that with a wider stepping style like hitting the middle of each panel, you have to expend more energy to do so. Now multiply that sort of extra effort for thousands of arrows in a 10 minute stamina stepchart and you will get an idea why players just sort of naturally transition to a more efficient play style. While the wiggle style looks like it doesn't take much effort to do. Believe me, you're still working muscles from the rapid alternation of your feet and thus can still hit a wall of energy expenditure where you just can't keep up anymore. So while it helps a lot, it's still no gimmie to passing stuff as it can always get harder.
If you'd like a really extreme example of this, look up a video called "ECSX Marathon - In Memoriam, 68.57% pass" by "Kieran ITG" (Levitaas) where he does an hour-long stamina marathon that's 245-270bpm.
It’s a whole different game with a different appeal and different set of techniques and ideals.
What you’re seeing is called “Stamina”, where the stepcharts themselves don’t have many tricky techniques, but they go really, really fast, and players challenge themselves on how long and fast they can go. If ITG chart styles were physical sports, Technical is like gymnastics while Stamina is like a marathon.
But if you like “Technical” stuff better, more power to you. In fact, I prefer Technical over Stamina.