THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ALBUMS IN HUMAN HISTORY | As Chosen By My Patrons
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For those who don't want to endure his hour and 10 minute video, here's his list:
10: "Blood on the Tracks" by Bob Dylan
9: "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye
8: "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." by The Beatles
7: "Purple Rain" by Prince
6: "Metalica" by Metalica
5: "Stone Roses" by The Stone Roses
4: "Thriller" by Michael Jackson
3: "Pet Sounds" by The Beach Boys
2: "Nevermind" by Nirvana
1: "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" by Lauryn Hill
You're welcome.
thanks. Saved me some time. He doesn't really get some things, does he?
@@LynneConnolly Not really.
I can agree with 10, 6, 5, & 1. *Maybe* 4 & 9.
But as for the rest? He's out of his mind.
Cheers
@@Inquisitor6321 pretty much.
Thanks. The video was a real SLOG! Unlike blonde on blonde.
I was nodding my head and agreeing throughout the video until we got to Who's Next. Now I'm on the floor, breathing into a paper bag waiting for the ambulance.
It's an awesome album. Not much filler.
Me too. It's a brilliant album. Absolutely one of the best ever.
That album is far beyond played out. I was tired of it in 1980. Go find something better.
@@Tangentook you are tired of it but we’re not!
Yep, the patrons messed up. Who's Next is brilliant.
Crime of the Century... Really? One of the finest 45 mins of music ever put on vinyl. Absolutely love every track. Ah well.
this guy Andy Edwards either has no idea or is otherwise a slave of his groupies
Baffling, isn't it?
Totally agree. An astonishingly great album. Just goes to show that ultimately personal taste is integral to these lists.
Agree, brlliiant album and just as hauntingly relevant now as when it was made half a century ago. - perhaps even MORE relevant now! "What's Going On" has similar qualities, also a truly groundbreaking record and I'm really amazed that either of these two was on the list.
After quickly zapping through the video to check out which ones, I contend that the patrons of this channel really dislike albums where an artist or a band makes a bold move in an unexpected direction - albums where the artist is really growing into new skin.
I'm not a fan, but I can hear how brilliant it is. Personal taste is less important than quality sometimes.
Buckets of Rain, Tangled Up in Blue and Simple Twist Of Fate are not “middle of the road”
Agreed. Nor is Idiot Wind.
Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts. Not a single rocker since 1945 could write even one verse of that song, even if you gave them a decade to do it. You don't get the Nobel Prize in Literature for nothing!
@@wagstaff6135 I don't think the Carpenters ever covered Idiot Wind.
@@PhilBaird1 pretty sure you are right
Bad choice for the list. Probably placed by basement dwelling proggers who cherish fantasy suites about teacups and dwarves being bludgeoned by slimy trolls until ultimately saved by fairy princesses. All wrought in 14/5 , and multiple Wakemanish pianos dueling with endless Frippery.
Don't waste 70 minutes of your life listening to Andy when you could be listening to an album YOU enjoy.
Or watch it on 2x speed and finish it in 35 mins
Supertramp is excellent. Great musicianship, splendid songwriting. They're soulful and epic. Bob Siebenberg is one of the most intensely grooving and underrated drummers in popular music. And Crime is their best album. It fully deserves all the praise.
I love how they screwed up Bob Seibenberg name and had him as Bob C. Benberg. His fills were great’ loved Child of Vision.
I love Supertramp but I agree that Crime of the Century is a bit overrated....
Totally agree on how great his drumming is. He’s very very hard to imitate because he had a unique touch, very strong technique but very musical, always reminded me of the sublime Pick Withers of Dire Straits fame.
I owned Crime of the Century in the mid-seventies. All of the rest of the Supertramp albums sounded to me like they were trying to achieve (Take the Long Way Home) what Crime did.
Fully agree. Crime of the Century is song-for-song nothing but brilliance, and it's the best realization of the rock opera format that I've ever heard (even though Supertramp themselves have maintained that it's not a concept album at all). And Rick Davies's piano solo on "School" is one of my favorite solos of all time, so lyrical and poignant.
Poor old Supertramp, I like Supertramp. Fools Overture is a classic Progrock track. Sure they were pop too but hey deffo worth looking into.
Fool's was on Even in the Quietest Moments. Anyway, I love Supertramp's classic 4 from Crime to Breakfast! Crime was the monumental one-started everything rolling, etc-but the best imho. Anyway, Andy doesn't think so, nor Supertramp in general. That's his choice? Funny, never got to hear his full negative review before it shut down. lol Doesn't matter. Each to their own.
'In Through the Out Door' is a strange one as it's never really been universally acclaimed in the first place which I thought was the point of all this...
Yeah it has to be rated before you can say it's overrated
I was there at the time for the media blitz and the best thing about that album was the paper bag.
As someone that personally likes In Through the Out Door, I’ve seen enough Zep album rankings all over the place to know that it isn’t rated highly anywhere to be overrated.
@@greengrass1072 Underrated rather. I also happen to like it a lot.
As it is usually much maligned, I would say it is fairly underrated. I really dig the vibe of this album.
Supertramp's Crime of the Century makes me dance and cry, has done since 1974. Rudy's on the train to Nowhere...
Superb album and song - though the opening verse of Rudy now makes me think of the ex-mayor of NYC and his grisly, slippery downfall... 😄
@@louise_rose - If that's the Mayor with the nose and balding then I gotta say I like that guy! Some criminals are just likable.
The title There’s A Riot Going On is an answer to Marvin’s question, What’s Going On.
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Blood On the Tracks -- yeah , right......
(Where did I leave my "eyes to heaven" emoticon .... ffs....
"Who's Next"???? Seriously????
yep... lots of folks don't like it but yes lots of folks love it
1 great song, "Won't Get Fooled Again." And a whole lot of boring crap with endlessly strummed acoustic guitar. And don't even get me started on how risible the lyrics are to "Behind Blue Eyes."
Maybe overrated in the sense that it wasn't as good as "Quadrophenia" or "Sell Out."
boring band
I just recently found you and your channel with your reaction to Rick Beato's take on modern music, Andy. You and I are the same age (b. 1968), though I am American and a non musician appreciator of music. I have a lot of catching up to do on your past videos.
While I don't totally agree with some of what you have said, honest opinions are what most are open to listening to. You make valid arguments to support your perspective which can make me reconsider my own. Hard rock and various metal genres are my default, but that doesn't keep my physical collection from having works of Miles Davis, George Clinton, Mstislav Rostropovich and Siouxsie and the Banshees among others. At 13 years old, the first album I purchased with my own money from the odd jobs kids do was "Killers" by Iron Maiden. Had never heard of them but was drawn to the album art. They, and a handful of other bands and musicians are what helped me survive the 80's.
Keep the videos coming and the opinions flowing. Two standouts from what I've seen thus far are the "Most Overrated Bands" and "Most Underrated Bands".
@@steveherman6909 You are alone at home aren’t you lol
@@likearollingstone007 Good one mate. Hehe
I do however live with my wife and adult stepdaughter and my wife was seated just across the living room as I was posting. My dad was a big Bob Dylan fan, l.a.r.s. Glad to meet you.
By the way, Andy (if you even see this buried comment) many of the folks I know here in the States are quite aware of Kraftwerk as mentioned in a previous video. When I told my wife, she immediately went to her daughter's room and I heard the snickering. Her children were well made aware of the German pioneers through my wife and her ex.
Blood on the Tracks ist the best Dylan album and one of my favourite albums ever. Not overrated at all.
I think Dylan's best album is greatest hits
@@TheD4VR0S if you like any artist and your favorite album is greatest hits you've got problems
@@bozzhughes6101 Then I've got problems because I do think greatest hits is his best album ;)
look at the songs on it
I think Blood on the Tracks is ok, but to me there are at least four or five better Dylan albums. For instance, Bringing It All Back Home and Desire.
Absolute masterpiece
Blood on the Tracks sounds different every time I listen to it. Which has been once a week for 40 years.
Overrated is the most overrated word in music, overrated basically is people who don’t like a certain artist or album and claim it’s overrated. Worthless term
Exactly
No. I like metal. I like Iron Maiden. Number of the Beast is supposed to be the best metal album of all time, but it only has two good songs . It is overrated. Andy Edwards is a Prince fan. He loves Prince's music. He thinks Purple Rain is overrated. I don't like Country music or most rap music, but I couldn't tell you which country or which rap albums are overrated. I couldn't tell you which Mariachi albums are overrated. So it isn't just people who don't like a band saying it is overrated. Maybe that is your personal experience with the term, but not for the rest of us who aren't retards.
But that's not what's on these lists, Andy often says he likes the musicians/albums on these lists, what he rails against inu view is the way that the culture decides that some stuff is the best while ignoring other work
agreed - what a worthless video
Precisely…overrated by who?
Politely disagree with your Pet sounds opinion :)
What do you think of the Smile Sessions? If you're more into Good Vibrations like tunes you might wanna check it out. It has in fact Good Vibrations on it.
I think Pet Sounds is overrated but thanks for the heads up on Smile Sessions as it might be my cup of tea
@@keithparker1346 You're welcome. I can see why people aren't so much into Pet Sounds. Smile cranks it up a notch when it comes to writing and orchestrating. I prefer it over Pet Sounds.
Brian Wilson’s Smile album is brilliant!
Does anyone rate In Through The Out Door? I think people are beginning to re evauate it... But still the least liked Led Zep album.
I love it though
Me too. I’m Gonna Crawl has slowly creeped up over the years into my top five Zeppelin songs ever.
“Carouselambra” will always be one of my favourite Zeppelin tracks. There’s a full-length instrumental guitar/keyboards/drums version that appears on a bootleg called “Out Through The Back Door” which runs to about 12 or 13 minutes which, despite the sound quality (which you get used to) is superb and well worth tracking down. This album would be great were it done by any other band. It’s a decent record, it just isn’t the best Zeppelin album.
“Graceland” by Paul Simon should be on that list. In part, as far as I’m concerned, he stole some of those riffs from “Live At The Witch Trials 1977” by The Fall, which predates it by about ten years. Both albums are equally tuneless.
@@PaddyBaxter-ji8in I love the absolute audacity of Carouselambra, which is brilliant because it doesn't sound like Led Zeppelin, and in fact sounds like nothing else they ever did.
The Hominids - Fire
Lascaux Art Collective - Alltime Fave Hunting Chants (triple gatefold with complimentary mural)
Marco Polo - Can't Find My Way Home
Achilles and the Trojans - Last Stand
Boadicea - Dancing with the Moonlit Knight
Galileo Galilei - Heart of the Sunrise
Benjamin Franklin - Money (deluxe edn)
Screaming Louis XVI - Instant Karma
Bela Bartok - Crimson Nightmare Folkdance Suite
Rick Wakeman - Drunker and Drunkerous Stories (Archives vol 93, Live at White Hart, Mariner Valley)
Booo no Lothar and the Hand People
hahahahahaha
Big Bang - World According to God
Never heard of 'em.
If their albums are that bad I'm glad I've never heard of 'em.
Saturday Night fever , Hotel california/ Greatest Hits , Born to Run ,Anything by Eminem
Saturday Night Fever overrated?... that's like saying Ketchup and onions are overrated on an hotdog; take the music out of the movie and it ain't gonna work.👍
Hotel California? Do you mean the song?
There are only 2 good Eagles songs, Hotel California and Desperado. The rest is complete shit.
anything by eminem is cash money
eagles live 'in the city' joe walsh goes off
Andy, you generally agree with your patrons. The Who's Next? Wow. Play tunes again start to finish. You can't justify this list. Albums like Appetite or Joshua Tree or The Wall or Hotel California I would put up as Overated b4 the Wno masterpiece. Excuse me I need to pour a drink
I think you're absolutely wrong about who's next
its great ,but not as good as " sell out" to me anyway.
Sell Out had a nich in time
Most overrated album ever is Nirvana "Nevermind" !!!
That’s a single not an album but yes
The whole album "Nevermind"@@3bwana
That’s not an album it’s a song.
Nah it's really just that good.
@@jordanpratt3821no it isn’t
Fleetwood Mac Rumors is the single most overrated album of all time.
Definitely
I’ve always found Tubular Bells to be one of the most overrated - I remember it being bought by neighbours to demonstrate their gargantuan Kef 3-way speakers. It’s interesting, but there are definitely better albums out there.
yes ommadawn.
TB is not immaculate, but it’s an incredible piece of work considering how it was made and by whom and when.
I can see now how TB is basically a collection of ideas put together as a single piece. Some of those ideas are great, others don't really work. As a footnote, I, personally, cannot stand the unnecessary voice over to the climax. Why on earth a key moment should be screwed by "grand piano" etc. Just no no no.
@@gab99it’s super-dorky! 🤓 the Sailors Hornpipe is more of a false not for me
@@gab99 Kind of agree, but the big turn off for me is the caveman shouting on side 2. (While the late Steve Broughton, of Edgar Broughton's band fame, is playing the drums).
Pet Sounds and Sgt Pepper are not overrated.
Please be Hotel California, album gave me a nervous tick.
I simply cannot understand the adoration that people have for The Eagles - boring, plodding, bloated 70s FM radio bilge.
It's sentimental largely...Cryin' Eyes? Is that not great, anyway? And Joe Walsh
@@danielcurtin5719 lyin' eyes?
@@simonhodgetts6530 amen brother!!
@@simonhodgetts6530 Don Henley sounds good.
Can´t argue with anything you said. My vote goes to Paul Simons "Graceland".
Huge Paul Simon fan and couldn’t agree more.
ELO and Supertramp are glorious bands.
@@JohnCollins Goodbye Stranger is a brilliant pop song!
@@Carboggg As good as anything.
Well, not bad
Supertramp are my ideal band. They were for fans and if you didn't know them or like them they stayed out of your way. Other bands are just rammed down your throat whether you want them or not. The Eagles, for example.
Whatever turns your crank.
I would not say Sgt Pepper because its probably now pretty widely considered the 3rd best Beatles album behind Abbey Road and Revolver. Given that, I don't believe it can possibly be considered overrated anymore.
I agree that it is NOT overrated. But I never thought that, although I wasnt born until 1981. I first heard it in 1997, although I was aware of it as a record in 1992 or 1993, because Kurt Cobain mentioned it in an interview. So I knew it was historically significant, though I could not have named a single Beatles song at that time, even though I had heard some of them. I got into them during the Beatles Anthology TV series and the 3 double albums. So, when I first heard it, I was surprised that it was not harder. Some of the songs sounded wimpy(?) maybe. But, I guess I was impressed by the effects and how it was track listed and the concept of it. The cover and packaging was very cool also. I kept listening and realized how much I appreciate the melody of most of it. Anyway, I immediately heard that it was SINGULAR, unique, inventive, technical, smart, humorous, and incredibly brave for a musical act of this magnitude. It would have been brave and bold for almost ANY act. But to be the biggest act in the world and possibly history, even at that time, with the world(socially, musically, fashion related, film related, and most social trends imaginable) to change directions almost to the direct opposite in style, fashion, hairstyle, facial hair, instruments, studio technique and innovation while at crest of that wave or fame is almost unthinkable. That is what impressed me the most. They invented many studio techniques. The dang Rolling Stones were all of a sudden psychadelic and dressed as wizards. Psychadelia became fashionable. The world even followed their lead in THAT direction. So, it was a monumental achievement. I think it actually has a claim as the Beatles best album. If not that, at least their most monumental(or their best achievement of an album), and even a claim as the best album of all time.
@@chargree It is my favorite album, not just my favorite Beatles album. So naturally I didn't think it was overrated when it was topping lists. Now, I think its clearly being underrated.
@@MarkAS56 Well, maybe I am off base here, but I gathered that you were saying YOU thought it might be the 2nd or 3rd best Beatles album. Which would make it impossible to be the best all time. That is an existing trend: to say it is the best of all time, without even being the best Beatles album. Which makes about Zero sense to me
edit the album by removing the GH track, and re[place with PL and SF (and maybe delete Rita). Suddenly, a much better album.
If any Beatles album could be considered overrated it's The White Album
Cmon. Blood on the Tracks. Even the title is genius. Allen Ginsberg Jack Kerouac Bob Dylan.
Mentioning those Beat-fellas, the title of this particular album always brings to mind (for me) the death of Neal Cassidy (Dean Moriarty from On the Road)
@@zetetick395 Meaning Neal counting railroad ties in San Miguel De Allende 1968.
I think the thing about Miseducation is that it was perhaps the last album to become organically popular before Clear Channel bought out the industry. I don't think Rolling Stone or other such publications really know what to do with music after 1999, because popularity in music became what the labels pushed rather than what the audience chose. So when these publications try to choose a modern album to put on these lists, they end up going with Miseducation, because it's the last album they remember people legitimately liking.
Sorry, Sgt Pepper is not overrated, but the White Album is underrated.
Yeah it is. Possibly my least favourite album of the post Help! era. One great song, one good song and the rest I could take or leave.
It represented the height of their fame and had an interesting cover. When I bought albums I played them a lot - I hadn't much money. Played this one maybe twice. Just a novelty piece.
Would make a glorious single album.Teddy Boy and Ricky Raccoon are pure pop tryouts.
ROCKY skunk.Grrrrrr!
@@nigelstansfield1644 What is Teddy Boy?
Stone Roses, Whos Next, Blood on the Tracks, Nevermind all fantastic. Couldn't disagree more.
I have to say «Who's Next» is a monument of an album, made out of a monumental failure of an album/project. It's not under or overrated, it's what it is, groundbreaking still today, no fillers. Same for Crime of The Century and Pet Sounds. Yes, Wouldn's it Be Nice eis kind of childish, but the sounds ir contains... Listen to the backing tracks, forget the vocals on the album. As for the rest, yes very overrated. I have Thriller, Purple Rain, Stone Roses, Nevermind... Never listen to them all the way through.
I think this guy is a twat. Who's Next overrated? This is why I hate critics.
Alice In Chains' Dirt affects me way more emotionally than Nevermind. Stronger atmosphere, killer vocal harmonies, amazing guitar playing. AIC is the true best grunge band.
(What's the Story) Morning Glory? - or any other Oasis album.
you obviously weren't a teenager when it came out. Neither was I but I get it
Yes. I should have mentioned this. But I'm an American. Perhaps my opinion doesn't count?
It's a better album than Stone Roses debut, by far.
I worked nights once in a factory and got endlessly out-voted on music and ended up listening to this album a couple of hundred times. I hate all of it.
I prefered Everything must go by the Manic Street Preachers around this time.
@@chrisdelisle3954 Oh dear.Paranoid much? I wont bother trying to have conversation
That Top 10 English Men list is perfect. I assume it will now be added to the Magna Carta and someone is currently knocking up 10 extra panels to add to the Bayeaux Tapestry. Flawless.
The list we didn't know we needed. A very pleasant surprise!
I just can't work out why this Lauryn Hill album keeps coming up in best album lists. I just don't understand it. Why?
It’s a whamin thing wink wink
It is strange
Wakanda forever.
Got to say an album by a black female artist
@@ianharkin2691 Honestly I didn't even know her. But now I read that she was the former singer of the Fugees, who murdered the beautiful song of Roberta Flack Killing me Softly.
Hey Andy can we have a ratings vid which compares different genres? Or take it a bit further and, oh I dunno, compare Steely Dan albums with biscuits? I mean would you put Can't Buy a Thrill above Chocolate Hobnobs? Or Aja below Custard Creams? I know I would definately put Jaffa Cakes above Kamakiriad. But are they a biscuit?
Great great idea !😂
This is ( hard ) rock list, with few exceptions...boring...
I love stone roses
yes. they had an album of good songs. These days I'd listen to it without fools gold. Cork sniffing to say it's overrated.
The bends being an overrated album is quite a big surprise considering it's always quoted as an underrated album!
Well done Andy for not supporting The Bends as overrated
Exactly
Yes most Americans of a certain age seem to think Radiohead started with OK Computer or even Kid A. But they did the brilliant Bends before that.
Overrated by whom?? A magazine no one has cared about for 35 years? Everyone is a critic, find music you like and enjoy it and don't waste 70 minutes watching this.
The thing is, I’m too old to love Nirvana but I do, when it came out it made a splash big enough for me to notice. The music of that time (from the perspective of myself having grown up with Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, etc) sucked so bad I started listening to country music. Now later I discovered Soundgarden which was truly great, but that Nirvana album kind of saved rock music for me, even if they didn’t call it rock.
10) I don't agree. My favorite Dylan album.
9) I don't agree. I suppose whatever is considered "the greatest album of all time" is going to be slightly overrated based on the fact that everyone's tastes are different. But I don't think it has anything to do with the album itself. It only has to do with the fact that we like making lists. And they're only opinions.
8) I don't agree. See #9 above. The only reason it's often set above other Beatle albums on lists is because of its cultural impact back in 1967. Every Beatle fan has a different idea of what their "best" album is, and a majority of those opinions involve about 6 of their records.
7) You are playing with fire. I suppose I prefer "Sign O' the Times" (and The Black Album, for that matter), but like Sgt. Pepper above, this one captured a time and place. And IN THAT TIME AND PLACE, it is the highest rated album.
6) That's fair.
5) I don't agree. One of my dozen or so favorite albums of all time.
4) I don't know. Maybe. Clearly "The Girl Is Mine" is weak. But there's a lot of great songs on this.
3) Maybe. It took me a long time to get it. My 31 year-old-self would agree this is the most overrated album of all time. But I'm 52 now. It's pretty influential.
2) So, basically, the point of this poll/video/discussion is to suggest that the biggest touchstone albums of all time, the ones that defined the zeitgeist of their times, are locked into those times and didn't age well with people. OK. Again, I disagree.
1) I agree. I am absolutely NOT a hip-hop fan by any means, but I did a decent deep dive for about a month and listened to all of the albums that are highly regarded...mainly 90's albums. This one didn't hold up with "Illmatic" and "The Chronic" and a good dozen others. Not sure if this is the most overrated album of all time, but it's on the list.
10) Who's Next?!?! Are you kidding me? One of my favorite top 12 or so albums of all time.
9) The Bends? - I guess I'm just a sheep. Don't agree. Not sure if it belongs on a top-whatever greatest albums of all time list, but it's a great record.
8) Crime of the Century - didn't know it was so highly rated. So, sure, I guess.
7) was there a #7?
I thought the break into the 10 Greatest English Men was hilarious. I only know Oliver Reed and that's only because of that weird-ass Tommy movie. But it was definitely a hilarious segment. (Didn't see Andy Edwards on the list...so, I disagree. He belongs on the list. Not sure which number.)
6) Out of the Blue - never actually listened to it. But after your friend's dismay at this, I gotta listen to it now. Talk about left turns in a video!
5) In Though The Out Door - didn't know it was actually highly rated, as it's always at the bottom of Led Zeppelin's lists.
4) Layla - I agree. It's not enough for me.
Not hearing "Astral Weeks' on either of these lists...
If I were to add some:
The Strokes - Is This It?
Velvet Underground - White Light / White Heat
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Arcade Fire - Funeral
Lou Reed - Berlin - maybe it's not overrated...but man, I just don't want to hear those children crying...
I agree with most of these. I can't knock Sgt Pepper though considering it's one of the most innovative albums of all time. As far as using Rolling Stone magazine as a gauge , we might as well use the kid in 9th grade for their opinion. As far as overrated, I'd include London Calling, Physical Graffiti, The Royal Scam, and every Pink Floyd album.
Blonde On Blonde one of the greatest albums ever. Difficult? Absolute joy to listen to; absolute, absolutely sweet, Marie.❤
Everything by Radiohead. You could have simply put their entire catalog here.
😂😂😂👍👍
It's hard to agree with you there. Radiohead has never been a band that people feel obligated to say they like (like Metallica or The Who for example).
Agreed! Radiohead always gets that go to thumbs up by any generic self professed music snob or nerd, who thinks he knows more about music than anyone else! (Musical critic equivalent of ‘the comic book store guy’ on the simpsons)
That’s why they’re overrated!
@@The_ScapeGoat I respectfully disagree. I think it's the exact opposite....critics are afraid to do anything but heap praise on the band, lest they (the critic) be seen as uncool. It's a classic case of the Emperor's New Clothes.
I thought Creep was pretentious crap back in the day.
Crime of the Century is underrated.
The take on Nirvana is way off. Proper heavy metal was ruined long before Nirvana came out. At the time, it was all the overblown hair metal bands that were popular, Nirvana blew them away by returning music back to its simple rock and punk roots. It was so refreshing and stripped down after the excesses of the 80s.
That was happening before Nirvana.
I think for me, the back story, which of course is all hearsay, is the fight Marvin Gaye had to wage with Barry Gordy, in order to get "What's Going On" made. It was depression sparked by the death of Tammy Terrell, coupled with letters he was getting from his brother who was in Vietnam, that motivated him to make this LP. Barry's response: "we don't do politically charged music." Marvin held his ground and hence, in my mind, a great LP. I was 15 at a camp in Maine when I first heard "Sgt. Pepper". I said to myself, "we matter" and so does this music. Personally, I like "Revolver", "Rubber Soul" and the "White Album" better. "Pet Sounds" by The Beach Boys, I have to be in the right mood. "Sunflower" and "Surf's Up" matter more to me. The Who. Oh, The Who. Saw them when they released "Tommy" and I have never seen anything quite like it. But as Pete moved away from "the counterculture" and more toward Meher Baba, I think a certain pompousness crept in. He replaced psychedelics with gallons of booze. I love "Who's Next" but I get what people are saying about it and the band. I actually think "Face Dances" is quite good but the follow up, pretty much rubbish.
Blood on the Tracks overrated??? I am not a Dylan fanatic but anyone who says that is overrated either is only being a contrarian or just does not like Dylan. But then again, this is the same list that states Sgt Pepper's is overrated.. not to mention Who's Next. WTF- seriously
Blood on the tracks is not overrated in my opinion. It’s brilliant and cannot be appreciated quickly based on its musicality. It’s an album that is endlessly re-listenable because it’s so deep lyrically and emotionally. You can hear it for the 100th time after 40 years and get a new feeling or new understanding from it
Anything by the ramones.
I agree, totally overrated
Very much so! Those 3 chords can only go so far.
I love their poppy stuff like "I Wanna Be Your Girlfriend" and "Rockaway Beach"
I want to buy a The Ramones T shirt just so that I can write "I hate" on it!
@@MisAnnThorpe Brilliant idea!!! 👍
I was honestly expecting The Wall to be #1.
As an ELO fan, I don't necessarily disagree that Out of the Blue is overrated. (Actually, A New World Record is a much better album, but you don't hear as much about it.) Out of the Blue does have some killer songs on it though. Maybe a single album of all bangers would have made more sense, but double albums were all the rage in the late 70's.
I agree.
Definitely’Framptons Alive ‘ has to be one of the most overrated and underwhelming records ever
I have to say, I loved Metallica's early stuff the most from Ride the Lightning to In Justice for All, and RtL was my intro to the band, the Black Album is I think one of the top ten albums of all time. Not only did it manage to cross over into the mainstream with massive success, but it stayed heavy in a kind of retro way and all the songs hold up. It is a very tight album. My personal favorite is still Ride the Lightning, but I get why both Master of Puppets and the Black Album tend to get special acclaim. That said, they lost me with Load. I don't mind them changing their sound if that is what they wanted to do, but had they instead continued the black album trajectory I would have been perfectly happy (that is definitely a change in sound from their their RlL to IJFA era, but I think it was a needed change as I don't know that I wanted them to repeat what they had done before by the time they got to the black album (it felt like a good gear shift to me). The shift from Black Album to Load, felt unnecessary and not particularly authentic, plus it didn't really add anything to the soundscape the way their prior albums had (it just kind of rode the grunge wave)
As far as I know Metallica fans in general um and ahh between MoP and Justice as the best. So the only reason why Metallica perhaps is not fit for this list is that metal / Metallica fans put it lower down their own list. MoP tends to make mainstream lists rather than Metallica I thought?
@@andrewwrench1959 I think maybe recently. But back in the day Master of Puppets was a lot less known in the mainstream. I remember when the Black Album broke and while I think it is some of the most solid song writing you are going to hear on a mainstream metal album, I remember how annoying it was hearing non-metal fans describe Enter Sandman as the heaviest thing possible. I think every fan is different. I always liked Ride the Lightning, because that is where they developed the sound that went into MoP and Justice, and I just like the songs a lot (but I think MoP is probably the clearest vision and execution of that sound). But all three of those albums are great. In terms of airplay, black album got way more. There were like five singles on that album. Now you can often hear fade to black on the radio or sanitarium or master of puppets, and one. But back in the late 80s, I remember those being rarities on the airwaves (in the states at least)
Sepultura did the best job of adapting to the mid-90's of all the old 80's thrash bands. When Pantera popularized groove metal, Sepultura brought out the equally amazing Chaos AD, and when Korn debuted, Sepultura's own take on Korn's sound, "Roots", was more brutal and interesting than most other nu metal bands who followed after Korn.
@@IzunaSlap I couldn't get into Sepultura or Pantera (though I have to say walk always sounded a bit like Don't Tread on Me to me). For me the 90s was kind of a wasteland once things got especially groovy. I don't mind groove. But the blend of sound in the 90s was not for me. There were a few metal bands who pulled through that period okay. Metallica wasnt one of them in my opinion. Like I said, black album, great record. Load, was just a terrible waste of their songwriting talent. I did like System of a Down. I liked some of tool. But for the most part I kind of lost interest in newer metal that was coming out. Iced Earth still managed to give a good classic metal sound in that era, so bands like that were refreshing.
Christ this guy can ramble. Someone in their bedroom talking with no coherence about great albums being overrated . The irony. 😂 String a sentence together please. And go and listen to an album you enjoy.
Nashville Skyline is such a great album but it’s tough to list because it’s the least Bob Dylany lol
And it's so short! And the first two tracks do not even count!
I like how he adopted his baritone-style vocal on that one! Not my favorite Dylan album but pretty close.
Kelly Grocutt was absolutely the heart & soul of ELO….before him they were good but nowhere near what they become. The harmonization was stupendous. It was wonderful to see his son in the flesh.
agree on all except "Who´s next"
I don’t know Andy, I didn’t see this losing its way. It’s almost 4:00 am here as I type this, and I wasn’t falling asleep, you know? I love talking music history, and I only found myself nodding my head maybe feeling some sympathy perhaps (we’ve all been there) when you mentioned getting a bit bored with it). But that’s why I’m here still awake at 4 AM, is this very subject right? Music has been the only constant in my life - since I was a child, that has never bored me or failed to provide whatever it was. I needed from it.
And the history is very important. It’s like studying how we became who we are now. So, it’s not really the same conversations over and over again, or getting sick of talking about certain albums. The fascinating thing is that as the years go by, the goal posts continually move on us, don’t they?
And it’s a mystery if we are doing it to ourselves or listening to an album with new years (or maybe old ones again).
You are a great discusser (is that a word? - of music and all it’s various offshoot discussions like the politics and nuances and reasons why certain albums always end up where you see them over and over again on certain lists.
Or why those same lists sometimes almost throw away a dozen or so albums that seemed forever cemented at the top in some shuffled form, to just disappear, every once in a while when they feel, ahem, an update is needed.
Anyway, I didn’t see this video as disjointed and losing its way. More like natural and sitting around in a living room somewhere or a bar/pub, talking music.
If Lauryn Hill actually comes out in the top spot the list is very silly indeed…that record isn’t regarded highly enough to even be considered that overrated…Appetite For Destruction is a thousand times more overrated
In case you happen not to be in the U.S., over here (no surprise there) it's massively overrated, especially by Rolling Stone (which used to matter at the time). I'm not the type to ever say this, but it certainly appeared to be a kind of tokenism. Confession: never heard any of it; for whatever reason, female hip-hop is not my thing. But like T. Swift, somehow the universe insisted that we hear all about it.
But no, no way top of the list, i agree
I couldn’t even name a song of hers on that album..it’s better to stick to rock music
Oh, no. It was very recently crowned THE GREATEST ALBUM EVER MADE by Apple Music's top 100 albums list. Lauryn Hill is basically considered sacred in north america
@@donello430 that Apple Music ranking list is absolute shite
NO ALBUM could compare with the onslaught of brilliance of the Dylan output of the 60s.
I don't know any Zeppelin fan who thinks "In through the out door" is any good. It was never over rated.
Compared to other Zeppelin albums it is not good. Compared to a lot of other bands albums, it is better than good.
LZ II is overrated
I'm a huge Led Zeppelin fan, and I love that album. But you're right: it was never overrated.
Great album but just not as great as the others.
Who's Next is my all-time favorite The Who album, don't care about people's opinions. 😆
Rating albums is actually pretty over-rated.
Rating album-rating as overrated is overrated. I think. My brain is overrated.
Each and every album is overrated. By someone.
Bob Dylan “ Blood on the tracks” is a brilliant record. Not auto tune, prerecorded echo chamber trash like so much of today’s music.
Beatles are by far and away my fav musical artists and I agree Pepper's is overrated. But I also think the Abbey Road "long medley" is overrated. The White Album is overrated by the hardcore fans since many of them consider it one of the top-tier Beatles albums when it's not.
Good to see no Jazz, Classical or Country albums are overrated. Or perhaps your viewers have never heard of these types of music.
I have thousands of albums in my collection. But Thriller isn't one of them. Jackson gives me the creeps.
... you would listen to an Elton John album??
Andy, I was There! Jim fixed it for me as well! I also wanted to milk a cow blindfolded, so Jim and his mate Jonathan King, me and the other kid, went down to a farm. Jim put the blind folds on us while Jonathan went to get the cow. We were pulling on those teets for ages and there was a lot of groaning going on. I was getting tired but Jim said we should keep going. We didn't get much milk though! I don't know what thats got to do with your music video though......... could it be a reference to Pet sounds?
Grace by Jeff Buckley, I think, is overrated.
English humor is classically under the rug. That bit at 58:36 was a tickler
Please indulge me, what was it? I completely missed it
The a bit over the top reaction over an album between friends and the undertones of forced displeasure gave me a chuckle as u know as everything today this was discussed before hand. I just found it very part of being a depressed brit
@@roystonsbailey the whole chunk thereafter
Blood On The Tracks - The New York sessions bootleg is by no means overrated. It shares about half the tracks with it's more well-known Cousin. Most of the alternate versions are available on the bootleg series re-releases.
Stephen "Blakey" Lewis should be in the top 10 Englishmen. There has never been, nor will there ever be, a greater bus "Inspector" in all of the British commonwealth. The man was responsible for keeping the buses on time with the worst employees ever. He was a tragic hero, underapreciated and unsung.
I have never agreed with a UA-cam comment more!!!!!!
I just found out John the Babtist recorded a few sessions prior to "Puntius Pilate and the Pharisees" in'24 which would make him the earliest jazz recording in Human History! Yes, he made a few field recordings documented by the River Jordan in January of said year, including- "Some Heads are Gonna Rolla"-Later covered by Judas Priest-"New Kid in Town"-by the Eagles-"Your Cross to bear"-The Allmans-"Kamala Harris Blues"-
I totally agree about your opinion on Stone Roses. I am about the same age (born 1966) and I have never understood the Stone Roses hype. I also agree on your take on Pet Sounds, never liked that album (or Beach Boys at all)
For youngsters the sound of the Stone Roses was new and quite different from pop at the time. No I'm not particularly overwhelmed by the group either
@@keithparker1346 Stone Roses were a lifelline to the 60s rock ballad, melody and good chord combinations. At the time the 80s were in woeful shape, so we were starved and hungry for "real music" and went for it.
From Manchester 😂
I've got to admit, I don't really listen to albums anymore. When I do I'm usually reminded why.
P.S
The thing Andy gets wrong is the belief that people only like certain music because they are produced by "critics darlings". In truth people brought music papers like NME, Melody Maker and the others because they wrote about music they already liked through exposure on the radio or television. Being old I used to buy NME and Melody maker because I listened to late night radio. I would never have got a record by a band because a critic raved about it. Not without hearing them first. Usually I would buy the single and think " that's good, maybe they might have other songs I like". I read the review because I liked the band/record/session. I suspect the same, minus the singles, is true of prog fans in the early 70s. And anyway, I prefer Sam The Sham and the Pharaohs to Joy Division or Led Zep. Woolly Bully has better lyrics.
love this channel. So wrong about blood on the tracks though!
I listen to very little from the 80's now. Metallica is one though. I only passively listened pre Black Album. When it came out I was into it and it acted as a gateway for me to really get into them. Later MoP became my fav. Years later it became Ride the Lightning. Nowadays my fav is And Justice for All. To me it feelz like a single piece of music, in movements. I like that about it.
Hmmm, this is a harder on to predict. Patrons can be stupid sometimes.
It’s just a long ad to get you to sign up
Sgt peppers is not overrated
@@armandom28 well Andy is entertaining often enough. And cool chatters.
@@paulmartinson875 And was groundbreaking at the time. Brian Wilson went crazy after listening and could only be consoled by putting his feet in sand.
You again! Calling us stupid. You should be ashamed.
SGT. PEPPER’S is the only Beatles album to have no singles released from it
Stone Roses is dressed up Byrdsian indie jangle. Got a good 60s vibe from John Leckie who Ian Brown got in because he loved his work on XTC 60s pastiche "Dukes of Stratosphere".
Nope, that album is wonderful. It flows perfectly, each song stands up on its own. Your description of them is somewhat accurate though, it’s hardly insulting
it's not a bad album but it's wildly over celebrated , half the songs are a bit meh
@@lennon1482 One of the songs is the previous one backwards.
you can hear your gold dress in ian browns vocals
True, John Leckie spinning bronze out of tin.
How is In Through the Out Door overrated? Many people didn't like it.
Who rates In Through The Out Door to be honest? :)
Exactly, how can an album that most people don‘t like be ‚overrated‘?
@@andigisler that's my thoughts exactly.
By the way OOTB contains my all time favourite ELO song, ‘Sweet Is The Night’. Total and utter perfection. Listen again over and over until you get it. And see me after school for detention if you don’t. 😊
Damn good tune
Don’t agree with including “Blood on The Tracks”. Not my favorite by him, but it’s a great album.
Agree. It's a great album. Andy, being severely limited by being British, doesn't GET where Dylan is coming from. We have to be gentle with him. He can't help himself. Dylan's coming from what Greil Marcus called "Old, Weird America." Andy doesn't have a clue about this.
@@Mooseman327 haha true, I’ll give him a pass.
Great for driving on reddish roads.
Great show Andy, for me " BAT OUT OF HELL " is right up there l don't agree with Sergeant Peppers is overrated, granted it's not Revolver or Abbey Road but it's an absolute masterpiece. As for RADIOHEAD being Posh , well yes but no band is posher than GENESIS , I mean RADIOHEAD are very minor Independent school but GENESIS are CHARTERHOUSE which is full on CCF FAGGING PROPER PUBLIC SCHOOL i.e EATON , HARROW , RADLEY etc . IN THROUGH THE OUT DOOR was a great Album ( REASON BEING, I DIDN'T BUY IT AND MY MATE DID AND OVER FORTY YEARS LATER HE STILL HAVEN'T FORGIVEN ME , THANKS AGAIN . PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
I just have Sgt. Pepper and Pet Sounds on vinyl... 'We're Only In It For The Money' from FZ is better than both today and back in the day.
43:15 This is aimed - among others - at one mr Robert Christgau, isn't it ;-) What a pretentious wanker. If I recorded an album and Christgau hated it, I'd know I did well 😂
Yeah, I just came across one of his reviews where he claimed a drummer who played with 15 famous jazzers was a "rocker" because he was on an album with a jazz-rock guitarist.
If you go on Wikipedia and check out most band’s discographies, his reviews are always featured. That is one guy I wouldn’t mind being able to say something to. Pretentious wanker indeed!
Lmao
Was he the one who called Queen/Freddie Mercury fascist or something? What a fucking plonker
As a long time Christgau hater, this really warms my heart!
Rolling stone is a joke. Just like the rock n roll hall of shame.
Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, OK Computer by Radiohead and Appetite For Destruction by Guns N Roses are my Top 3!
Ok Computer is perfect and Rumours is nearly perfect, although I would like to hear an explanation for why you think those three are overrated.
So right about AfD.
Definitely Rumours! Such safe bland AOR. OK Computer is excellent but perhaps it's a tad overrated because Kid A is much more experimental and interesting but OK Computer gets all the coverage.
@@DarkSideOfTheMouleKid A is just their facsimile of Warp records.
I cannot argue against this.
Came on to enjoy this, and immediately I find he's included my favourite album of all time, Blood on the Tracks!!!! Jesus. I'm gone!.
Beethoven’s 9th. A lot of padding until you get to the good bits.
Here here.
Are you nuts?
Literally starts with the good bit
Kinda like Niagara Falls...oh. You said padding.
😂
I'm with you on most of those Andy. Blood On The Tracks is one of the most consistently overrated Dylan albums. I prefer hidden gems like Another Side Of Bob Dylan (it came out just before his electric era but lyrically the songs have evolved so much from the protest songs of his first three albums to more personal introspective songs). My bone of contention is What's Going On. As much as I like them, I don't agree that Funkadelic were doing anything like this lyrically in 1971. True, Curtis Mayfield had written political songs in the 60s with the impressions prior to his solo albums but they were one-off songs on more thematically diverse albums.
What's Going On is special because the different songs are linked by the theme of covering all the different aspects of what was wrong in the US at that point in time (including Vietnam, social inequality and environmental damage). To me it seems like a concept album. Secondly, the songs seem to merge together like a suite and musical themes are reprised. On top of that, even though I love Curtis, he was primarily a songwriter who sang, whereas Marvin Gaye just has THAT voice! To me his voice is like another instrument. Curtis did do a couple of more conceptual albums later on (Back To the World and There's No Place Like America Today) but I think Marvin got there first with the concept thing. Stevie was arguably more innovative musically on individual songs because he introduced new technology (i.e. the TONTO synth) but again, lyrically while there are individual political songs (Living In The City), these are individual tracks, not a complete album-length statement.
P.S. for a truly underrated 70s Funk/Soul concept album dealing with life on the edge check out Ghetto Misfortune's Wealth by 24 Carat Black!
What's going on has 2 good tracks, the rest is filler
@@crazyprayingmantis5596Intetested to know which ones you feel those are
Radiohead are a solid band, the trouble is people will praise The Bends as one of their finest albums, it's clearly not.
I respectfully DISAGREE - it's near PERFECT; sets the stage for ANOTHER such, OK Computer.....
@@ogam5 You know what, you're most probably right to be honest.
The other day somebody berated my god of music, Rick Biato. Age is so relative, he was perhaps 40ish, so you can't talk to somebody so young (I'm 69). With regard to this podcast, one can't underestimate the emotional context at the time. Marvin Gaye takes me back to my Dad's Quincy Jones album, I heard Sergeant Peppers whilest on holiday in December '69 with friends and still have a visual memory of walking into the lounge and hearing it. Finally, i had just completed my final 3 month compulsory border(Angola) army camp and heard Billy Jean at 4 different venues!!!! Thank God for awesome music, which without, life would have no meaning!!!!