Havik desperately seeks help from his fellow fighters and always gets turned away and scolded for his past actions. VGM: MK Deception - Dark Prison/Hell's Foundry
havik has been radicalized but in the wrong direction. at the same time though, you can really feel in his voice how passionate he is for his cause and you can tell he genuinely believes that everyone would be better off in a world in anarchy. it almost makes me sad both when people minimize his plight but also when people genuinely try and advise him to help him in his goal but he doesnt like what they have to say. man i wish havik got to be developed
I hope he'll get developed more in the next game, considering his titan may be a next big baddie. >:) He sounds so emotional, it really does hurt. I can sympathize with him, but at the same time I understand why people see his rabble as insanity. I love Havik I just wanna listen to him ramble about chaos and let him vent because lord, does he need it.
@@outworlded like he has every right to be angry with his oppression and with the injustice and brutality his people face. especially when he comes from place that utilizes a caste system. like i truly do get it. but his methods to achieve freedom are so misguided. i feel like he just needs someone he feels truly cares about the cause who can also be a voice of reason. i dont think hes evil the way that like shao or reiko are. hes just willing to do whatever it takes to get his desired outcome. its a real "the ends justify the means" situation
TLDR: imo Havik is severely traumatized, which has lead him to literally cope and seethe. I feel like Havik has been deeply hurt and traumatized by his upbringing and by him and his people being treated horribly. The way he has chosen to cope with this reality is by becoming an anarchist (on the extremist side of the anarchy spectrum), and using the extreme anger he feels towards his oppressors due to his trauma. However, because of how hurt and broken he is as a person, his ideals have shifted so extremely far that he doesn’t even see his oppressors as living beings anymore. He sees them all as these evil beings who destroyed his people and gave him the scars all over his body (not his face obviously).
Not misunderstood, he's an anti-villain. His goals are vaguely righteous but takes extreme efforts to say the least lmfao. He's not a villain but not a hero by any metric.
Villain for sure. He may say some of the right things about the nature of power and authority, but his idea of liberation is just vengeance, and his idea of freedom is "pure chaos", which isn't remotely anarchist in the least. We want order in freedom and democracy. Not to mention, he calls anyone going against him a counterrevolutionary, which is such an authoritarian thing to do.
@@catmania5Havik isn't an anarchist, he's just a vengeful psycho. Anarchism is about creating order through freedom and democracy. Violence is on the table, but only to overthrow systemic violence and affirm life. Havik uses some of the rhetoric, but he just kills those who hurt him or displease him and doesn't care about life at all, just his vague idea of "liberation".
Let’s be honest our FT10 is not happening because you keep running and I’m done chasing you but 2 things. 1. Do you think you can beat my Rain? 2. If I see you kombat league, your just some free points.
@@AlwaysColdNeverHot this guy was being toxic to me for literally no reason on mk1. I uploaded it on my channel for all the context, don’t want to watch it then short explanation. I beat him twice in a row then I switch to Scorpion and he talks crazy even though he barely won. Hard R and moaning in the microphone
Buddy, you're still here? I forgot you existed. Didn't even get a notification for this comment. Also, there was no Hard R, clearly your defeat came at the expense of some of your brain cells that send signals to your ears.
@@dopefury That’s fine I can simply remove the edit where you did say the hard R. So idk what your on about me losing brain cells when all the proof of you embarrassing yourself is in my video.
"Must I show you my scars to prove it?" There were no malice in his words, only the weariness of a deeply traumatized individual, as if he had reached the point of being utterly finished with it all. Though not included, in a dialogue, Havik tells Rain if they cross paths again he'd kill him- and yet whenever someone asks Havik to turn Rain in- he just says he'd never compromise his freedom. You can tell that Havik actually trusted Rain and he considered him a friend. (Which I could go into hours about lmao.) Havik is an absolute favorite of mine, and I do think he's a very tragic figure- but flooding Seido was a pretty heated thing to do. (Yes, even though he was a serf and abused- innocents live within Orderrealm.)
@@X3H3X It still is. Its a beautiful looking dystopian city with strict laws hell they age much slower than earthrealmers so the prison sentence is straight up 20+ years for a curfew violation.
I get that Dairrou wants to be free but it ain't worth going after innocent people though. He's blind if he can't see the difference. He's like a dictator who forces people to join him or be killed. All this has drove him into madness.
Havik: "If you're Liu Kang's ally, you're MY enemy!" Kenshi: "Then we're enemies Havik." Aaaw, what if poor Havik just wanted to be fwiends? (I personally see him as a Villian/Anti-hero based on what I've learned from clips of the game. Good intentions, but horrible way of achieving his goals. Literally as Geras and Liu Kang tell him patience is a virtue in it, and he just says "NO! I WANT IT NOW!")
Havik: Hand over those stones of yours. Thanos: You have all of Kamidogu on your body. I'm not giving you the Infinity Stones! Havik: With Kang the Conqueror's chair, you and I can rule the whole Multiverse for freedom! Doctor Doom: Ha! Doom does rule, but not freedom of yours! Havik: You should have listened to your brother Maximus, but you defy freedom! Black Bolt: ............
havik has been radicalized but in the wrong direction. at the same time though, you can really feel in his voice how passionate he is for his cause and you can tell he genuinely believes that everyone would be better off in a world in anarchy. it almost makes me sad both when people minimize his plight but also when people genuinely try and advise him to help him in his goal but he doesnt like what they have to say. man i wish havik got to be developed
I hope he'll get developed more in the next game, considering his titan may be a next big baddie. >:)
He sounds so emotional, it really does hurt. I can sympathize with him, but at the same time I understand why people see his rabble as insanity. I love Havik I just wanna listen to him ramble about chaos and let him vent because lord, does he need it.
@@outworlded like he has every right to be angry with his oppression and with the injustice and brutality his people face. especially when he comes from place that utilizes a caste system. like i truly do get it. but his methods to achieve freedom are so misguided. i feel like he just needs someone he feels truly cares about the cause who can also be a voice of reason. i dont think hes evil the way that like shao or reiko are. hes just willing to do whatever it takes to get his desired outcome. its a real "the ends justify the means" situation
@@fs0598Megatron from Transformers: First time, Havik?..
@@furychromthereddeath571 LOL they form a support group together
Leon Kennedy: you remind me of those regenerative parasitic monsters I found in Spain
Havik: do you think I’m some kind of zombie?
Doom Link: I proudly served a King and Princess and we are a team not slaves!
Havik: Then you don't know what it is like to be a slave!
@0:10 how i feel about jesus lowkey
Is Havik a villain, or a misunderstood Hero?
I feel like he kinda misunderstood
TLDR: imo Havik is severely traumatized, which has lead him to literally cope and seethe.
I feel like Havik has been deeply hurt and traumatized by his upbringing and by him and his people being treated horribly. The way he has chosen to cope with this reality is by becoming an anarchist (on the extremist side of the anarchy spectrum), and using the extreme anger he feels towards his oppressors due to his trauma. However, because of how hurt and broken he is as a person, his ideals have shifted so extremely far that he doesn’t even see his oppressors as living beings anymore. He sees them all as these evil beings who destroyed his people and gave him the scars all over his body (not his face obviously).
Not misunderstood, he's an anti-villain. His goals are vaguely righteous but takes extreme efforts to say the least lmfao. He's not a villain but not a hero by any metric.
Villain for sure. He may say some of the right things about the nature of power and authority, but his idea of liberation is just vengeance, and his idea of freedom is "pure chaos", which isn't remotely anarchist in the least. We want order in freedom and democracy.
Not to mention, he calls anyone going against him a counterrevolutionary, which is such an authoritarian thing to do.
@@catmania5Havik isn't an anarchist, he's just a vengeful psycho. Anarchism is about creating order through freedom and democracy. Violence is on the table, but only to overthrow systemic violence and affirm life. Havik uses some of the rhetoric, but he just kills those who hurt him or displease him and doesn't care about life at all, just his vague idea of "liberation".
Let’s be honest our FT10 is not happening because you keep running and I’m done chasing you but 2 things.
1. Do you think you can beat my Rain?
2. If I see you kombat league, your just some free points.
Bruh what
@@AlwaysColdNeverHot this guy was being toxic to me for literally no reason on mk1. I uploaded it on my channel for all the context, don’t want to watch it then short explanation.
I beat him twice in a row then I switch to Scorpion and he talks crazy even though he barely won. Hard R and moaning in the microphone
Buddy, you're still here? I forgot you existed. Didn't even get a notification for this comment.
Also, there was no Hard R, clearly your defeat came at the expense of some of your brain cells that send signals to your ears.
@@dopefury That’s fine I can simply remove the edit where you did say the hard R. So idk what your on about me losing brain cells when all the proof of you embarrassing yourself is in my video.
@@dopefury crazy how you didn’t answer my question too. You can’t beat my Rain with your cheesy Kung Lao. 💀
"Must I show you my scars to prove it?" There were no malice in his words, only the weariness of a deeply traumatized individual, as if he had reached the point of being utterly finished with it all. Though not included, in a dialogue, Havik tells Rain if they cross paths again he'd kill him- and yet whenever someone asks Havik to turn Rain in- he just says he'd never compromise his freedom. You can tell that Havik actually trusted Rain and he considered him a friend. (Which I could go into hours about lmao.)
Havik is an absolute favorite of mine, and I do think he's a very tragic figure- but flooding Seido was a pretty heated thing to do. (Yes, even though he was a serf and abused- innocents live within Orderrealm.)
I agree with you. His voice sounded pretty hurt when he tells rain "I thought you were a true believer! "
Yes I'm not understanding the hate on Havik. He really wasn't explored in the old timeline really
Far as I'm aware, Seido/Orderrealm was HEAVILY strict on punishment. To the point that even being late by a few minutes was punished by jail time!
@@X3H3X It still is.
Its a beautiful looking dystopian city with strict laws hell they age much slower than earthrealmers so the prison sentence is straight up 20+ years for a curfew violation.
I get that Dairrou wants to be free but it ain't worth going after innocent people though. He's blind if he can't see the difference. He's like a dictator who forces people to join him or be killed. All this has drove him into madness.
I like how Havik told Reptile to rise up and Reptile was like, "Love to, but there's one problem with that, i have no clue who did it."
Havik: "If you're Liu Kang's ally, you're MY enemy!"
Kenshi: "Then we're enemies Havik."
Aaaw, what if poor Havik just wanted to be fwiends? (I personally see him as a Villian/Anti-hero based on what I've learned from clips of the game. Good intentions, but horrible way of achieving his goals. Literally as Geras and Liu Kang tell him patience is a virtue in it, and he just says "NO! I WANT IT NOW!")
Havik isn't evil. He's just broken.
when shang starts judging you thats when you know u fucked up
Oh shit Hell’s Foundry music!
Even Reiko and Shang Tsung of all people are like too far, dude.
Havik: I bow to no one, Omni-Man.
Omni-Man: Then I'll pluck your legs off at the knees.
Oh, you can see Havik quakin' in his wee li'le boots 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dang havik heartbreaking 💔 or broken
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He reminds me of someone: a slave for freedom.
Eren
@@pholrakchantaratcharoen4563 Bingo!
Eren:do also you think I'm in the wrong
Havik: no your people deserve LIBRATION
is Havik anti - government?
@@BronyLord-wo1ym he's unironically an anarchist
Havik: Jill, you are a slave
Bsaa Jill: I’m not a slave I’m just fighting bioterrorism. Do you have a problem with that?
Havik: Hand over those stones of yours.
Thanos: You have all of Kamidogu on your body. I'm not giving you the Infinity Stones!
Havik: With Kang the Conqueror's chair, you and I can rule the whole Multiverse for freedom!
Doctor Doom: Ha! Doom does rule, but not freedom of yours!
Havik: You should have listened to your brother Maximus, but you defy freedom!
Black Bolt: ............